Haywood won't be suspended

I just got off the phone with a spokesperson with the NBA and was told that Brendan Haywood will not be suspended for the hard foul he laid on LeBron James last night. Haywood was hit with a flagrant 2 foul and ejected in the third quarter. The NBA's Stu Jackson reviews all flagrant fouls and determines whether to take further action.

I asked whether the league was satisfied with the call and told that the league agreed with the flagrant 2 because James was in the air defenseless and Haywood extended his arms to shove him.

By Ivan Carter |  April 22, 2008; 1:10 PM ET
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Good news that Haywood will be available. Not that it will matter. T-minus 2 games left in the Eddie Jordan era.

Posted by: LyricalRico | April 22, 2008 1:21 PM

Even the NBA knows it's limitations when it comes to fixing a series...........

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | April 22, 2008 1:22 PM

Well, NBA certainly does not want to see another blow out.

Posted by: Sagaliba | April 22, 2008 1:24 PM

We've been seeing a collective blow since LeBron came into the league.

Oh you said 'blow out'. My bad. I must have read that wrong.

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 1:27 PM

It's amazing how vulnerable the Wizards' front court is, such that if Brendan had been suspended, the Wizards would not have been able to field a single physical big man to play against the Cavs in Game 3.

Sure, Etan is out, but the Wizards could've declared him out for the year and reclaimed a roster spot. Of course, the Wizards' "crack" medical staff couldn't reasonably project Etan's availability this year one way or the other.

In any event, the other playoff teams are all loaded up with physical bigs. The Wizards just aren't built for the playoffs right now.

Posted by: Keynote | April 22, 2008 1:27 PM

If they suspend Haywood, then they would have to take a look at why the refs didn't call a Flagrant 2 on Varajao for a similar foul on Blatche in the first half. The NBA wants Cleveland to advance and have obviously instructed the officials to protect him.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 22, 2008 1:28 PM

T-minus 2 games left in the Eddie Jordan era.

Posted by: LyricalRico | April 22, 2008 1:21 PM

LyricalRico - EJ is not at fault for this game. CB is clearly not 100% and neither is Gilbert. There is a reason why they call it "home-court advantage". They did not run the offense as Eddie instructed them to do. And that was AD in there and not Gil.....

The game that will tell it all is Thursday's game here at home. If the Wiz get toasted again, then you have to count it 4-0. I think with home court and the officials knowing people are "watching" them now will play to the Wiz advantage.

Roger Mason has to good of a shot to be off three games in a row, he is due this game. We have gotten NO outside scoring from anyone, other than Gil in the first game.

Haywood is killing them, but he can't stay in because they call fouls on him but not on Ike. If Haywood is able to stay in, Mason/Stevenson find their outside shot, CB gets 20 the Wiz will be good to go.

No way should Eddie be let go. He has never had full access to all of his HEALTHY Big Three the past 2 years. Give him a full season with all three healthy and then see what happens.....

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | April 22, 2008 1:33 PM

If this series goes back to Cleveland,
the Wiz need to make some big changes.

As I said in another post, the Wiz should focus on clogging the middle and getting defensive rebounds.

That said, I would bench Stevenson in Cleveland and put in Blatche to start. Move Caron to the 2, and he and Blatche can help handle any pressure on AD. This approach would improve both the offensive and defensive positioning vis-a-vis the Cavs.

Posted by: Izman | April 22, 2008 1:39 PM

Haywood did not shove him! I don't understand what they are looking at!

Posted by: Darnell | April 22, 2008 1:41 PM

it doesnt matter. the wizards dont have the kind of team leadership you need in a playoff contender. whether it's 4-0 or 4-1 or 4-2, its another first round and out. i almost feel like the les boulez era was less painful to watch

Posted by: matt | April 22, 2008 1:42 PM

Agree, we gotta get some 3s from Mason and Deshawn, as well as Arenas. Both of them look nervous offensively.

Cleveland's size is causing problems for Antawn, Darius, Blatche, and especially Caron. We need to hit some shots from outside to spread the floor. And we gotta speed up the tempo!

Posted by: Darnell | April 22, 2008 1:45 PM

Glad that Haywood will suit up, he was one of the few players that didn't give up last night. Thank god the players get off 2 nights before game 3. That should be enough time for them to regroup

Posted by: TheKingOfVa | April 22, 2008 1:49 PM

Won't matter if Haywood is on or off the court, this series is over. Lebron is just so much better than anyone who suits up for the Wiz. In an even series such as this one, I will always take the real superstar over 3 "all stars". case closed.

Posted by: lenny | April 22, 2008 1:51 PM

I don't understand what all the complaining is about! The Wizards are simply getting outplayed. The Cavs are still a better team. Forget James and his stats, they play DEFENSE and that is what the playoffs are all about. Stop crying about foul calls because you will never get fouls called for you when you're hoisting up 3 pointers all over the place.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 1:52 PM

One reason why Haywood picked up so many fouls (he was in foul trouble in the 1st game too) was because EJ decided to make LBJ earn it on the line. And since other players have problems to prevent LBJ from driving, Haywood has to be the last line of defense (i.e., gives out fouls). I felt that in game 2, Haywood's foul could have been better used on Wallace. Put the worst foul shooter on the line instead of giving him dunks. But Haywood was in foul troubles early, he had to just watch and let Ben dunk. (BTW, Ben wasn't Haywood's guy either, shows you what kind of defense other Wizards are playing.)

It was irrelevant in game 2 because Haywood was ejected anyway. But I think for Haywood to play more minutes, something has to change.

Posted by: Sagaliba | April 22, 2008 1:53 PM

Ivan is spot on. The fact that LeTravel has been rolling around and feeling his lip every time he's hit is disgraceful. He looks like a soccer player. Just pick yourself up and go to the line. For a guy who says he doesn't mind contact, he acts like a wuss any time he's touched.

Posted by: Colin | April 22, 2008 1:55 PM

Regarding the Wiz Medical Staff:

I've meaning to put this out there a while back but I forgot.

I had hip surgery a few months ago at Georgetown Hospital. Since then I've been re-habbing. My orthopedic surgeon recommended/demanded I re-hab with a specific physical therapist in Arlington.

Well I've been re-habbing with her for a while now. During one of our sessions I was talking trash to her about how the Wiz own the Celtics and how well we match up with them. She's a big Boston fan, with that famous Boston accent.

Anyway, as we were talking I was complaining about how the Wiz have had so many injuries the last couple of years and it always seems they are always mis-diagnosed.

Well wouldn't you believe she gave me some inside info. She told me that the Wiz medical staff is a joke. They are the laughing stock of all the sports teams around the country. She used to work for the main Wiz Dr/Surgeon. She said he was awful. He had regular patients and when my Physical Therapist used to work with him, she would tell his patients to get 2nd opinions.

So I asked, if the Wiz medical staff is that awful and it's even widely known through the sports world, why in hell are they still employed with the Wiz. She stated that Abe and Irene Polin are great friends with the Wiz Dr. As long as Abe owns the team the Wiz will never change medical staffs.

This is absurd. Think about the all the injuries the Wiz have had over the years that were mis-diagnosed. Arenas, Butler, Pech, Etan, even Arvis Hayes knees.

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 22, 2008 1:55 PM

Colin,
ALL NBA players contort, whine and make faces this is done to DRAW fouls in addition to whether or not the ref actually "sees" the contact. Stop complaining about LeBron because the Wizards cannot stop him. Besides, all NBA players carry the ball, travel, foul anyway.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 1:57 PM

I don't understand what all the complaining is about! The Wizards are simply getting outplayed. The Cavs are still a better team. Forget James and his stats, they play DEFENSE and that is what the playoffs are all about. Stop crying about foul calls because you will never get fouls called for you when you're hoisting up 3 pointers all over the place.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 1:52 PM

You have to excuse me. I'm a pathetic fan in Cleveland. We haven't won any kind of Championships in over 40 years. That's why we are so desperate and we surf other cities' websites. It's so pathetic in Cleveland, even our beloved Browns left us at one point. To make it worse, Lebron is leaving this pathetic city soon too, when he opts out.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 2:00 PM

I still don't know what all the complaining is about...besides #1 the Browns did not leave, Modell took the players and equipment. #2 LeBron will not leave either, wait and see. #3 You're not hurting my feeling trying to talk down Cleveland. #4 You still did not address the original comment that the Wizards are getting outplayed.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 2:04 PM

Forgot to add #5 I'm not in Cleveland, I live in Virginia.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 2:05 PM

I would like to say, "OF COURSE he's not suspended!" but even I was skeptical.

BTH has shown a great deal of heart this year--I hope he has a great game 3.

Posted by: Lou | April 22, 2008 2:05 PM

Yay NBA!!

Hooray for thug life!!

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 2:09 PM

Besides, whoever copied my previous post and attempted to give the impression that I posted the other comment, why don't you grow up and acknowledge yourself and post with YOUR name and maybe we can have an simple conversation and not try to make it personal.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 2:09 PM

Its sad to see that as a professional basketball player, Haywood had to resort to streetball to feel like he was contributing to the game. Shouldn't he have proved himself in points and not fouls? I think that might have helped his team out a little bit, then again, maybe it would have only made it 20 point game. Good luck in game three and just because you know you're going to lose, have enough pride not to show it.

Posted by: AdamBomb | April 22, 2008 2:16 PM

The refs didn't call a flagrant 2 on Varejao because he was clearly taking a swipe at the ball, and because he missed he nailed Blatche in the head. I think it was more of a technical foul than a flagrant, as it didn't appear intentional, but Varejao was definitely trying to swat the ball out of Blatche's hands.

In contrast, Haywood made absolutely no attempt at the ball. He didn't even raise his hands above his shoulders. He just shoved LeBron while he was in the air, which is incredibly dangerous. I don't know whether it warrants a suspension or not, but it was clearly an intentional foul aimed at hurting another player, and was in no way shape or form an attempt to block LeBron's shot.

And talk of this series being fixed is laughable. You don't fix a thirty point blowout. Haywood being out didn't mean Washington's defense had to be nonexistent. Haywood being out didn't mean that everyone on the Wizards roster had to miss almost every shot they took. Haywood being out didn't help Wally and Gibson hit almost every shot they took.

It's sad to see Wizards fans acting like Detroit fans last year. They'll make every excuse for a defeat except the logical one...that their team just isn't good enough to beat the Cavs, even when healthy. Three years and eight Playoff games in a row should prove that.

This series will probably be over in four again this year, with the only difference being that the Wizards can't complain about not having two of their key players this time around.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 2:16 PM

The refs didn't call a flagrant 2 on Varejao because he was clearly taking a swipe at the ball, and because he missed he nailed Blatche in the head. I think it was more of a technical foul than a flagrant, as it didn't appear intentional, but Varejao was definitely trying to swat the ball out of Blatche's hands.

In contrast, Haywood made absolutely no attempt at the ball. He didn't even raise his hands above his shoulders. He just shoved LeBron while he was in the air, which is incredibly dangerous. I don't know whether it warrants a suspension or not, but it was clearly an intentional foul aimed at hurting another player, and was in no way shape or form an attempt to block LeBron's shot.

And talk of this series being fixed is laughable. You don't fix a thirty point blowout. Haywood being out didn't mean Washington's defense had to be nonexistent. Haywood being out didn't mean that everyone on the Wizards roster had to miss almost every shot they took. Haywood being out didn't help Wally and Gibson hit almost every shot they took.

It's sad to see Wizards fans acting like Detroit fans last year. They'll make every excuse for a defeat except the logical one...that their team just isn't good enough to beat the Cavs, even when healthy. Three years and eight Playoff games in a row should prove that.

This series will probably be over in four again this year, with the only difference being that the Wizards can't complain about not having two of their key players this time around.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 2:16 PM

I'm trying to hang on to Lebron's nutz before he opts out. He's our last chance to end our 40 year drought.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 2:24 PM

Don't pick fights you can't finish

Posted by: DeSoulja | April 22, 2008 2:26 PM

I still don't know what all the complaining is about...besides #1 the Browns did not leave, Modell took the players and equipment. #2 LeBron will not leave either, wait and see. #3 You're not hurting my feeling trying to talk down Cleveland. #4 You still did not address the original comment that the Wizards are getting outplayed.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 2:04 PM

I'm trying to tell myself these things to help me cope with this Drought. It's not working is it? Am I that obvious?

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 2:26 PM

Wizards who ?!?!?

Posted by: AdamBomb | April 22, 2008 2:28 PM

HEY JASON!!

Posted by: JESSE | April 22, 2008 2:33 PM

Game #3 is huge, no more so than for Eddie Jordan. If the Wiz lose game 3, then unless the Wizards somehow win 2 in a row, the Wizards will lose the series no better than 4-1. I can't imagine EJ being back next year if that happens. Grunfeld would HAVE to look at other options at that point, wouldn't he? He's certainly given EJ enough time to take the team somewhere.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 2:49 PM

Lebron walks on every drive and is the biggest drama queen grabbing his mouth on plays he doesn't even get hit in the mouth on.

You can argue reffing was the difference in Game 1 (Wizards still could have won by making any of many shots late), but Game 2 was an embarrasment.

Someone check Stevenson for brainwaves. After blowing on the hand down 16 I don't think there can be any activity going on up there.

Posted by: Mike | April 22, 2008 2:53 PM

"I'm trying to hang on to Lebron's nutz before he opts out. He's our last chance to end our 40 year drought."

Still better than watching my team get it handed to them three years straight in round one of an incredibly weak Eastern Conference.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 2:55 PM

ok washington can be great, and obviously the fans are pretty loyal to the team, can't blame ya. sports is sorta our emergency relief! but i think cavs and wizards fans alike would be embarrassed by this dude fakin his name so that he can try and diss on the cleveland drought. LBJ might leave after his contract, but at his young age its all about money, and the cavs can offer the most of any team with the nba rules that are layed out. so i doubt he leaves.

Posted by: Deric | April 22, 2008 2:55 PM

while ivan had stu on the phone, he should've asked what he thought after reviewing the 2 elbows lebron _intentially_ threw into wizards faces...

if i were blatche, and lebron did that to me, i would've given him a much harder foul than haywood did the next time down the court.

even if haywood's foul as not making a play on the ball (and it could be argued that his intent was to do so, but he just ended up out of position and continued on with his foul), he was not intentionally trying to injure lebron. throwing an elbow at a person's face (and not on a rebound where you're trying to make space, or on a drive where your arms are flailing) is nothing but an intentional attempt to seriously injure someone. if haywood had done that to lebron, he would have been suspended for the rest for the series.

funny thing is, we see junk like the "nba cares" commercials, telling us how nba wants to be role models for children, but what they're showing in the games is, if you're popular, you can do whatever you want, even if it's wrong, and get away with it.

Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008 2:59 PM

"I'm trying to hang on to Lebron's nutz before he opts out. He's our last chance to end our 40 year drought."

Still better than watching my team get it handed to them three years straight in round one of an incredibly weak Eastern Conference.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 2:55 PM

Only to add another year to the drought.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 2:59 PM

If the Wizards end up losing this series 4-1, that means in the last 13 playoff games, the Wizards would be 1-12. I don't see how Eddie can survive that.

Posted by: Red | April 22, 2008 3:04 PM

What a joke. Your team is classless. Cant wait to see what you try to do on Thursday.

Keep your mouths shut and just play ball.


Go Cavs

Posted by: Mike | April 22, 2008 3:04 PM

btw, i forgot to mention the lebron has a history of throwing elbows. he knocked out webber a few years back, not too long after kobe got suspended for his shot. and again ,the nba did nothing:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-sTAMUZxfZA

Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008 3:04 PM

Colin,
ALL NBA players contort, whine and make faces this is done to DRAW fouls in addition to whether or not the ref actually "sees" the contact. Stop complaining about LeBron because the Wizards cannot stop him. Besides, all NBA players carry the ball, travel, foul anyway.

Posted by: joecooperstar | April 22, 2008 1:57 PM

Please. His reactions are melodramatic and more over-the-top than any other players. LeTravel looks like a wuss when he does that.

Posted by: Colin | April 22, 2008 3:07 PM

"while ivan had stu on the phone, he should've asked what he thought after reviewing the 2 elbows lebron _intentially_ threw into wizards faces...

if i were blatche, and lebron did that to me, i would've given him a much harder foul than haywood did the next time down the court.

even if haywood's foul as not making a play on the ball (and it could be argued that his intent was to do so, but he just ended up out of position and continued on with his foul), he was not intentionally trying to injure lebron. throwing an elbow at a person's face (and not on a rebound where you're trying to make space, or on a drive where your arms are flailing) is nothing but an intentional attempt to seriously injure someone. if haywood had done that to lebron, he would have been suspended for the rest for the series.

funny thing is, we see junk like the "nba cares" commercials, telling us how nba wants to be role models for children, but what they're showing in the games is, if you're popular, you can do whatever you want, even if it's wrong, and get away with it."

LeBron threw an elbow at one of your thugs after he got punched in the face and no call was made. He hasnt thrown another elbow at anyone, even though he clearly should.

I just wonder what it will take to get one of your cheap-shot artists suspended.

I also wonder what the over/under is for the amount of games until one of your thugs goes haywire and pulls a knife and chases LeBron around the court.

The NBA cares, just watch Brendan chuck LeBron into the cameramen for no better reason than "AT LEAST HE DIDN'T SCORE THAT TIME!!

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:08 PM

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

Posted by: Colin | April 22, 2008 3:13 PM

"Only to add another year to the drought."

That's fine with me. I don't expect the Cavs to win this year. They've got three tough Eastern teams above them, and they'll have to go through at least two of them (either Boston and Detroit or Boston and Orlando) to get to the Finals.

Now, I think they can do that, but it will be tough. And even if they do make it that far, they're going to have an even tougher Western team to face off against, and they've been notoriously weak against the West.

"Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind."

Not many people are calling him a dirty player. That was, however, a dirty hit. Any time you shove someone when they're in the air, it's dirty. There's no way around that. I think Haywood is a good player, but he's a good player that took a cheap shot on another player, and he got rightfully punished for it.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM

joecooperstar, LeBron makes faces and complains AFTER he's already gotten the call. That's why I have a problem with it. That said, he needs to keep driving and drawing fouls til we figure out that we need to force him to shoot jumpers. Good teams make adjustments. We had at least a couple dozen games to see what this new Cavs team looks like and how to beat them. If we fail to take advantage of that, it's on us. Their record since the trade suggests that they are beatable. Game 1 also gives us a game plan. We missed open shots that would have won it for us in game 1. Even LeBron said that 'they won't continue to miss those open looks'. Keys are rebounding (Jamison in game 1) and making open shots. It's that simple. It doesn't matter what the Cavs do it we do this. We have more talent on our team. LeBron is better than anyone we have but we have more individual talent. It's not just a homer statemnt. It's true. The only position where they have a clear advantage is SF. If we play our game, we will win.

http://www.82games.com/0708/0708CLE5.HTM

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

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Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM

Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards." Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact. Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant. Seriously, toughen up you prima-dona. Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now.

Posted by: rock | April 22, 2008 3:21 PM

In that last link that I posted, look at the net production by position. It's pretty bad. Ours wasn't that much better but it's more even. It kinda underscores the fact that LeBron is pretty much all the Cavs have. If we make him play D, force him to shoot jumpers and neutralize everyone else, we will win.

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 3:23 PM

I'm not a cavs fan or a wizards fan, but just to clear a few things up here:

There is no way Haywood made a play on the ball, his hands were on his shoulder and waist and he made a pushing movement with his arms. He may have intended to make a play on the ball, however he did no such thing.

As for the cavs fans, I don't believe Haywood meant to hurt LeBron or harm him, I think he saw LeBron charging to an open rim and made a move.

It was clearly a flagrant-2, the NBA rules state that if the player receives a T and is not making a play on the ball or not indenting to make a "basketball move" then it's a F-2 and automatic boot.

With all that being said there is no way he should be suspended for another game.

I'm not a fan of either team, I'm from Chicago therefore a Bulls fan, however you Wizards fans are being a bunch of cry babies! You guys lost, there were a few bad calls on each side of the floor just like any other game. You all forget when James received that blocking foul past 3-point range when he really got pushed. Or in the first game where he got cloths-lined in the face.

Posted by: frankgr | April 22, 2008 3:24 PM

Question: If the wizard get sweep and you are Grunfield do you fire Eddie Jordan?

Answer: Yes, you have too. It's no excuse the wizards should not get sweep against the CAVS. Even you don't have a healthy Gil or Caron. The Cavs are a 2 man team with Lebron and Z. Eddie Jordan is being out-coached. There is no way with the talent we have in our starters and bench we should get sweep let alone get blown out in the playoffs. The offense is stale; they pass once and shot a long jumper. Where is this Princeton offense? If the players are not running your system it's up to you to get them to. If I was Eddie I will play Blatch, Haywood, Gil, Jamison, Butler together more. That will help in defense and offense. Songalia is a defense liability and can't jump over a noodle so you can't have him in with Jamison and Haywood. All three together can't jump over 3 noodles. Also, is it me or does Mason seems to be timid...he looks like he lost his favorite toy. Eddie and the coaching staff have to motivate his players and find way to create mismatches which they are not doing. Wally can't guard Butler, Ben can't guard Jamison; I say no more, I rest my case....

Posted by: Moe | April 22, 2008 3:25 PM

Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards." Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact. Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant. Seriously, toughen up you prima-dona. Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now

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He is too strong for the Wiz, how many times does he need to prove that?

I think what makes you guys the angriest is that he keeps getting up after all of the cheap shots.

I am not sure how many more times he can get jacked like that though without inevitably getting seriously injured. But that is what you are all after anyway, maybe if you keep it up your wishes will be granted.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:25 PM

You gotta put some blame on EJ at this point. I'm sick of hearing, this guy's injured or that guy's injured or it's the ref's fault. Every team deals with these same circumstances and injuries. EJ needs to fire up the squad and dominate these next two games. The team played uninspired ball last night and they deserved to get blasted. I would like to see some fire coming out of EJ. Start yelling at the refs or express it through the media. He can't sit still in his monotone voice and say "the refs make the calls, i'll leave it at that." That's not going to get it done.

Posted by: disremembered | April 22, 2008 3:27 PM

hey wood: "Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant."

Maybe you didn't see the small gash, NBA rules state you are not allowed on the court when bleeding and there was blood. You guys are idiots, once again I'm a Bulls fan and I'm glad that they aren't in the playoffs cuz they would get embarrassed almost as badly as you guys. I say almost cuz at least they would play with some heart.

Posted by: frankgr | April 22, 2008 3:32 PM

hey wood: "Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant."

Maybe you didn't see the small gash, NBA rules state you are not allowed on the court when bleeding and there was blood. You guys are idiots, once again I'm a Bulls fan and I'm glad that they aren't in the playoffs cuz they would get embarrassed almost as badly as you guys. I say almost cuz at least they would play with some heart.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 3:32 PM

"Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards.""

He actually said, "We've gotta go strong" if you look at his lips. That's something he's said to his teammates all year and pointed to his bicep to emphasize the point, and also to allow players that don't hear his words to understand what he's saying.

"Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact."

Well, for one, LeBron does typically get hit quite a bit more than the average NBA player, and he gets knocked down frequently during games as other players try to stop him. Just because he's tough doesn't mean it doesn't hurt when he gets hit, or that he doesn't bleed just like the rest of us.

"Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant."

He pointed to his elbow because it was bleeding. That's a good way to show the refs the severity of the foul.

Also, did you notice how he leaped right back up after the flagrant? He got demolished and he was back on his feet in an instant. That seems tough to me.

"Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now."

Did you notice that the only stat the Wizards beat the Cavs in during game two was free throws attempted? All of the calls aren't going LeBron's way now...

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 3:33 PM

wood,

blatche's foul on lebron was no harder than half the fouls both teams gave in the first half of game 2. but again, you're missing the point. blatche went for the ball. was trying to stop the shot from going in. (and btw, lebron took a solid three steps into him, so he shouldn't have even had to foul him, if the refs would call his travels). lebrons elbow was not a play on the ball. or a defensive play, or even a play trying to free himself offensively, it was after a rebound that he was not even involved in and he snuck it in, INTENTIONALLY, when the refs were not looking. the fact that he's done it in the past only confirms his intent.

and yes he did throw another elbow...to haywood's face...after that foul was called when haywood was standing over him at mid court. you know the one where the wizards were handed 2 techs, and the cavs got 1 tech....

my point in all this is not that he should get fouled hard. actually, i think putting that in the gameplan was a huge mistake by eddie jordan. the wizards are not a physical team, we're a finesse team. in fact, cleveland is in general, a much more physical team, with guys like lebron and wallace, in particular.

my point is that the wizards' fouls are being called, even after travels, which is bs, but believable unfortunately, but lebron is being allowed to retaliate physically, with no penalty, and not even in normal game actions, when if it was any other player in the league, such moves would result in suspension.

also, the fact that butler, daniels, and jamison have been sent to the floor several times in both games, without any whistle, or a peep from the media about the physical play of the cavs, is what's beginning to make the whole thing a bit ludicrous. it's almost as if lebron and the cavs could say tomorrow, "hey the wizards are traveling way too much." then on thursday, the wiz would be called for a dozen travels and the media would lead with the story, "the wiz walk their way out of the playoffs."

Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008 3:34 PM

Looking at wiz fan comments on this thread is really, really funny. Lebron owns you. Just absolutely owns you. The NBA wants more games involving Lebron, not less, so if they wanted to fix things they would be trying to get these series's extended to 6/7 games and not having your poor bodies swept out of the arena in 8 consecutive games. I'm in LA (originally Oregon) and don't even watch the Eastern Conference except in the playoffs, but I've seen enough Cavs/Wizards the last three years to know what kind of chances your boys stand.

Posted by: Jonathan | April 22, 2008 3:39 PM

Talent wise, the Wiz are the better team. Problem is the Wiz aren't playing as a team. Running down court to lauch 3s will not win this series. Failure to score in the closing minutes of the game and missing free throws won't get it done either. But home-cooking is the best and that's what is needed here. Things will look better on Thursday Wizards fans.

Posted by: Biglrob3 | April 22, 2008 3:47 PM

Take out LeBron, take out the team, simple

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | April 22, 2008 3:48 PM

Wow, there are a lot of excuses. Do all of you claiming that the Cavs are getting all of the calls realize that the Wizards shot 7 more free throws than the Cavs in Game 2? Not that the players could make any shots, but kind of blows out that excuse a little doesn't it?

Posted by: GregoryS | April 22, 2008 3:50 PM

As a Cavs fan, I have gotten pretty familiar with Washington Fans and media over the last 3 playoffs and one thing has constantly amazed me:
Nothing is apparantly EVER the Wizards fault. You guys are the worlds biggest enablers with this team and thats why they constantly under-perform. "Oh they got blown out, not YOUR fault guys is was the injuries, or the refs, or a league wide conspiracy". If Stevenson made those comments as a member of the Cavs and then fallen on his sword like he's done our writers and pretty much every other city's writers would've CRUCIFIED him. Not your fanboy Wizards journalists though. They just console him and pat him on the back.
Until you guys turn the spotlight on your team and realize that they just aren't very good nothing will change. Demand accountability from your franchise, don't blame the league and bad timing for everything. It's no wonder nobody respect the Wiz...

Posted by: Statutory Stevenson | April 22, 2008 3:51 PM

Next 2 games go to the Wiz. Anyone bringing Mylanta to the game for the gas under Lebron's belt?

Posted by: Boulez | April 22, 2008 3:58 PM

Reading these comments I can't wait till Game 3.

To all the Cavs fans out there: Yes LeBron has been owning us and we've played some crap defense and he's near impossible to stop.


That said though you guy are a team with 1 great player and a decent big man, thats it. Game 2 was probably the worst game I've seen the Wizards play all year, and I have no answers as to why Butler and Jamison are playing like crap and settling for long jumpers. Agent 0 clearly is not 100% and is as slow as molasses.

I still think if we can get our offense going we can whoop the Cavs, even with an out of shape Agent 0. Butler and Jamison HAVE to play well and they need to get back to playing as a team the way did before the playoffs. I would start Mason, Butler, Blatche, Jamison and Haywood and have Arenas and Daniels come in against the second unit.

We have more than enough talent to win, we just aren't putting it all together.

Posted by: Arun | April 22, 2008 3:58 PM

Why do so many Cleveland fans come to our blog to troll????? I have NEVER gone to their blog, and never will. Gloating is so low-class. Gloat on your own blog.

Posted by: Why? | April 22, 2008 4:01 PM

We all knew the refs would give all of the calls to LeTravel. The Wiz wilt under the pressure and the Capitals live for it. The Wiz are not mentally tough. At least one team in the phone booth knows how to win.

Posted by: LeCrybaby | April 22, 2008 4:03 PM

Glad Heywood wasn't suspended. The glaring weakness is when he is tired or out of the game. The Wiz have nobody to rebound. Blatche is too frail and Songaila can't get up high or quickly enough. Wallace, Verajao, Smith, Ilgauskas, Brown and even James are killing us tipping the rebounds to themselves and giving the Cavs 2nd and 3rd shots on single possessions. That and the missed free throws were the glaring weakness. With no Etan to go to, we need to use Pecherov and maybe McGuire. Blatche & Jamison need to man up. The Cavs know when Heywood is out, they can lob over the top at will to Ilgauskas. And Antonio Daniels is no threat to shoot that flat J

Posted by: G$ | April 22, 2008 4:04 PM

Only thing good that came out of Cleveland was Howard the Duck!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 4:05 PM

I hope cleveland steamer fans read our site. They had better enjoy the few LeTravel years they have left before he leaves for the Big Apple.

Posted by: LeCrybaby | April 22, 2008 4:06 PM

Regarding the Wiz Medical Staff:

I've meaning to put this out there a while back but I forgot.

I had hip surgery a few months ago at Georgetown Hospital. Since then I've been re-habbing. My orthopedic surgeon recommended/demanded I re-hab with a specific physical therapist in Arlington.

Well I've been re-habbing with her for a while now. During one of our sessions I was talking trash to her about how the Wiz own the Celtics and how well we match up with them. She's a big Boston fan, with that famous Boston accent.

Anyway, as we were talking I was complaining about how the Wiz have had so many injuries the last couple of years and it always seems they are always mis-diagnosed.

Well wouldn't you believe she gave me some inside info. She told me that the Wiz medical staff is a joke. They are the laughing stock of all the sports teams around the country. She used to work for the main Wiz Dr/Surgeon. She said he was awful. He had regular patients and when my Physical Therapist used to work with him, she would tell his patients to get 2nd opinions.

So I asked, if the Wiz medical staff is that awful and it's even widely known through the sports world, why in hell are they still employed with the Wiz. She stated that Abe and Irene Polin are great friends with the Wiz Dr. As long as Abe owns the team the Wiz will never change medical staffs.

This is absurd. Think about the all the injuries the Wiz have had over the years that were mis-diagnosed. Arenas, Butler, Pech, Etan, even Arvis Hayes knees.

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 22, 2008 1:55 PM

That may go down as the single most laughable anecdote in the history of the Wiz blog. Thank you Bangladesh...we are all now dumber for having read your idiotic story.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 22, 2008 4:07 PM

And what would the Wizards know about low-class. Would that be claiming one of the league's best player's is over-rated? Or Zero claiming to want the Cavs because they are the percieved worst team and that the Cavs couldn't beat them 3 years straight? Is that what you mean by low class?

Posted by: Low Class? | April 22, 2008 4:08 PM

I miss DCMan 88.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 4:08 PM

Give him a full season with all three healthy and then see what happens.....

puleeze thats all weve been hearin forever. no one stays healthy for a whole year especially these guys. so forget it.

Posted by: dk | April 22, 2008 4:09 PM

I'm talking about the FANS ON THIS BLOG.

Posted by: Low Class | April 22, 2008 4:13 PM

THE CLEVELAND FANS ON THIS BLOG.

Posted by: Low Class | April 22, 2008 4:14 PM

If I were a GM and building a team, who would I pick from the Wiz, and in what order?

1 ) Butler - tough as nails and plays hard every night.
2) Jamison - professional who can score, but a defensive liability.
3) Arenas - incredible offensively, will put butts in the seats, but doesn't make those around him better.
4) Antonio Daniels - slightly above average player with all around skill set.
5) Andray Blatche - maturing skills on both ends of the floor.
6) Brendan Haywood - a mildly not terrible big man.
7) Darius Songaila - good veteran to have off the bench.

But really, beside maybe Mason as a back up, would I even bother to pick up someone like Deshawn Stevenson? Was there another franchise out there throwing big money at him this off season? It is really a joke when maybe the 8th best player on the team calls the best player in the league over rated! Let's look at how well DeShawn has played Lebron. In games against the Wiz this year, he has scored 23, 33, 25, 32 & 30 for an average of 28.6 PPG. That would make his scoring average against the Wiz about....well ridiculous. So if DS is some kinda defensive genius, how is it that LJ seems to score with ease? Aren't they the defending Conference Champs? Haven't they bounced the Wiz from the playoffs 2 years (going on 3) in a row? To call Lebron overrated maybe one thing coming from Kobe, but coming from a guy that is not even one of the best players on his own team is a joke. DS is a joke, and until he shuts down LJ, he needs to shut his mouth. Last time I checked the Wiz were the lower seed, and they haven't won anything yet. So shut up and put up. Probably a good thing you can't feel your face DS cause your getting smacked in the mouth by a team that knows what it means to play in the finals.

Posted by: tired of this S | April 22, 2008 4:15 PM

Why do so many Cleveland fans come to our blog to troll????? I have NEVER gone to their blog, and never will. Gloating is so low-class. Gloat on your own blog.

Posted by: Why? | April 22, 2008 4:01 P

In other words, leave us alone so we can delude ourselves and invent conspiracies against the Wiz. Please don't expose our fanboy reinventions of has already happened, we would rather not know that LeBron always points to his bicep to tell a teammate to go strong to the hole or that his elbow was bleeding after the Haywood shove. We want to ignore the facts the rest of the world sees, ones that even Charles Barkley, no fan of Lebron, acknowledges. Stop trying to take our rose-colored glasses off!

Posted by: Dunbar | April 22, 2008 4:17 PM

From the WashWizards website blog page Info:
UPDATE: "Just got back from practice. And while I say practice it was much more of the team talking and watching film than practice. The team went in for film to start which is very rare and they talked for about an hour. From what I understand Coach Jordan talked to the team while they watched film and it really helped perk the mood of the guys. Following film the team went through individual shooting drills and one thing that caught my attention was DeShawn Stevenson. The guy went out and at one point made 25 consecutive three points from four spots on the floor. I will have quotes coming soon."

DeShawn Stevenson
On Wizards fans treating the Cavaliers like Cleveland fans treated him
""I really hope are fans come out loud and support us," said DeShawn Stevenson. "After the way the Cavaliers fans treated me over there. They had thousands of signs, and putting my comments on the scoreboard so hopefully LeBron and the Cavaliers get the same kind of treatment in our building. We need for them to feel like they are on the road and not at home."

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 4:17 PM

"We all knew the refs would give all of the calls to LeTravel."

Except they didn't. The Wizards shot more free throws than the Cavs in game two.

"Give him a full season with all three healthy and then see what happens....."

I don't think Arenas has a full healthy season in him any more. Keep on hoping, though...

Also, I'm sick of that "we're hurt" excuse. It's so tired. When the Cavs lost to the Spurs in the Finals last year, no one was blaming it on Hughes' injury (although I do blame Mike Brown for playing Hughes even though he was hurt) even though he was one of our key defensive players. We just accepted that the Cavs got beat by the better team.

We also didn't make all sorts of ridiculous excuses, like that the game was rigged, or that the refs were against us. We just accepted that the Cavs got beat by the better team.

Maybe you guys should take a page out of our book this year and stop making excuses.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 4:19 PM

Good thing for LeBron that he was born in this era, and didn't play in the 60s or 70s, when they allowed way more contact. The first time that he drove the lane against, say, George McGinnis of the Pacers, he'd have gotten a punctured lung from the hand check on his ribs.

Posted by: John Brisker | April 22, 2008 4:26 PM

Maybe you should stop posting on our blog. We know what's wrong with our team. We are not stupid.

I have an idea!!!! Why don't you go celebrate with YOUR FANS ON YOUR BLOG??? Have a party over there! Be my guest...

You just won 2 games, for God's sake! CELEBRATE AND LEAVE US ALONE!

Posted by: Cleveland Fans | April 22, 2008 4:40 PM

If the NBA is so concerned about a player; i.e., lebron, "in the air defenseless and Haywood extend[ing] his arms to shove him," why wouldn't the NBA have displayed the same concern when Ilgauskas committed an equally hard, if not harder foul on Antonio Daniels during a regular season game at Cleveland? Daniels was in the air to make the shot and Ilgauskas pushed/shoved/threw (pick one) Daniels out of bounds. No F2; no F1; no personal foul. The officiating is disgraceful and inconsistent. Ditto the NBA.

Posted by: mottox | April 22, 2008 4:43 PM

Three years and eight Playoff games in a row should prove that.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 2:16 PM

briantw - Prove what? That LaBron is free to walk on every other possession, bowl over people at will and still go to the line? Why do you think the Wiz are playing him like they are. They figure they are not going to get a charge on him because of who he is and he will go to the line anyway. So they figure if he is going to line, they my as well make him earn it.

That Big Ike can climb over people's back who have inside position without being called for "over the back". Big Ike is allowed to take three steps instead of two before he shoots. That Big Ike is allowed to "move" at will when he sets a screen?

That whenever LaBron decides to drive you can 100% count it being called a foul. That Big Ike playing down in the post has yet to get in foul trouble? That whenever a Wizard drives the lane and is bumped or held no foul is called, however LaBron takes two steps towards the basket a foul is called (case in point CB's "hand check"at the top of the key).

Sideshow Bob being allowed to go over established positioned rebounders without being called for over the back. The list goes on and on.

Let's see what happens when the game is called evenly? That will happen this game because the NBA wants to make a little loot (like a 6 game series) and plus they know everyone will be watching the officials more closely. Those are big "mo" calls that the officials make in the favor of the Cav's so those definely count towards how the game is being played.

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | April 22, 2008 4:54 PM

This is great because otherwise it would have been a four game sweep. If the wiz win the next two game then I believe that the wiz will win in six. If the wiz lose this next game this will be a sweep. If the wiz lose game 4 then this will be over in five. That is my prediction

Posted by: Alex | April 22, 2008 4:56 PM

Songaila can't get up high or quickly enough.

Posted by: G$
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Yeah, I did see Songaila lost a couple of rebounds that way. But watch out, karolama will call you name for saying that! LOL

Pech needs to work on his game during off-season, I don't see he is ready to help in this series. To keep Haywood in game, I think the Wiz's perimeter players have to do a better job preventing penetration and cut down the number of times that Haywood has to foul.

Posted by: Sagaliba | April 22, 2008 4:56 PM

"LyricalRico - EJ is not at fault for this game."

The heck if he isn't.

He's not using the bench the way he did during the regular season, and I don't wanna hear it's due to "foul trouble."

Again, your team takes the personality of your coach. Feel free to blame Jordan as well.

"Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind."

Same exact foul to Antonio Daniels, I don't even wanna hear it. Stop kissing James' butt so much.

Tell James to stop taking three steps every time he goes in for a layup and then we'll talk about what is fair and not fair.

And yes, the Cavs "team" is out playing the Wiz. I don't think you'll get much argument from any of us on that. The problem is they really shouldn't be.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | April 22, 2008 4:57 PM

In games against the Wiz this year, he has scored 23, 33, 25, 32 & 30 for an average of 28.6 PPG. That would make his scoring average against the Wiz about....well ridiculous. So if DS is some kinda defensive genius, how is it that LJ seems to score with ease? Aren't they the defending Conference Champs? Haven't they bounced the Wiz from the playoffs 2 years (going on 3) in a row? To call Lebron overrated maybe one thing coming from Kobe, but coming from a guy that is not even one of the best players on his own team is a joke. DS is a joke, and until he shuts down LJ, he needs to shut his mouth. Last time I checked the Wiz were the lower seed, and they haven't won anything yet. So shut up and put up. Probably a good thing you can't feel your face DS cause your getting smacked in the mouth by a team that knows what it means to play in the finals.

Posted by: tired of this S | April 22, 2008 4:15 PM


And guess how much Lebron averaged for the year? OOO 30 points- Lebron getting 30 points against the wizards isnt what kills them, it is the other players scoring. Butler and Arenas clearly aren't themselves and they are not attacking at all. This team has not looked the same this series but a series does not start until the home team loses. Wiz will hopefully make a comeback and if lebron gets fouled and holds his lip again i might go crazy

Posted by: Jstack42 | April 22, 2008 4:57 PM

If the Wizards end up losing this series 4-1, that means in the last 13 playoff games, the Wizards would be 1-12. I don't see how Eddie can survive that.

Posted by: Red | April 22, 2008 3:04 PM

Reason number 924,256,204 not to believe everything you read on a blog. They would not be 1-12 in their last 13 games if they lost this series 4-1.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 22, 2008 4:58 PM

DC fans are so pitiful!!!grow up!!!your team sucks!!!get over it...King James!!!MVP

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 4:59 PM

Dear Wizards fans,

I use to live in D.C. and I have to say, I have never seen a more pathetic group of fans. First, half the people in the stadiums cheer for the other team. Then most of the games are filled with stuffy lawyers and congress people drinking lattes and sushi. Not only do the fans suck, but moreover, the teams. The Wizards have always sucked and never reached the level to be able to talk trash to any team or player, ESPECIALLY the leading scorer and probably the best or second best (Kobe) player in the league. Three years in a row Wizards have gotten smacked down like little girls. Just keep your mouths shut, until you have a worthy team. Until then, just grab your ankles and take it like the little girls you are.

Posted by: WizardKiller | April 22, 2008 5:00 PM

If I were a GM and building a team, who would I pick from the Wiz

caron butler and nick young. thats it.

Posted by: dk | April 22, 2008 5:02 PM

For the first time I agree that Eddie might not be coach next year. His game plan was bad and his team didn't give a crap (again). They completely fell apart. Even coming out of timeouts they took quick jump shots after one pass, if there was a pass.

The video of him in the locker room wasn't any better, with Blatche playing the despondent youth not even paying attention.

The only question would be whether Abe and Ernie go after a name (Carlisle or, gasp, Larry Brown) or a favorite up and comer like Tom Thibodeau.

Posted by: Monte | April 22, 2008 5:04 PM

haywood a dirty player?
the irony is hes been a cupcake all season, all his career. i dont think he eva laid a glove on any1 until last night. thats whats so weird.

Posted by: dk | April 22, 2008 5:06 PM

hey Bullets Fever, how's your tin foil hat doin'? just asking. You crazy fans and you conspiracies.........such an embarrassment.

Posted by: Stevenson loves rape | April 22, 2008 5:07 PM

No way should Eddie be let go. Give him a full season with all three healthy and then see what happens...
Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | April 22, 2008 1:33 PM

puleeze thats all weve been hearing for 3 years. unfortunately no one stays healthy an entire season in the nba especially les wiz.
it wont happen. so please after we get swept out in 4 or 5, please look at jvangundy.
enough of this crap already.

Posted by: dk | April 22, 2008 5:10 PM

If we could bring Charles Oakley back for this series, he could really lay some wood on Letravel. Did anyone also see the inconsistency with the refs, how Caron was called for a foul for touching Lebron on his back when the whole game had been 10 times more physical. We all still believe the Wizards can come back from this series and tie it up 2-2. We've all seen this year how the Wizards have responded from blowout losses, we've done exceptionally well. Also, the 30 point loss is misleading...when the Wizards loose, we really loose cus we stop trying after we're down by 15+. Also, when the Wizards are in the game...this year we've been especially good at closing it out, game 1 was a rare exception. The wizards need to get back to their bread and butter and i'm sure the three's will start falling once we're in the comfort of our home crowd.

We need to take Lebron out, look at how HORRIBLE they are without him. You Cavs fans, just wait and see when this series switches over to the Wizard's hands.

Posted by: rock | April 22, 2008 5:11 PM

Ridiculous. Haywood's flagrant 2 was worse than the foul by Robert Horry on Steve Nash last year. Horry was suspended for 2 games.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:18 PM

Talk is cheap. Let's see how the Wiz come out in game 3. Cleveland defended their home court (which they are supposed to do) and now it's up to the Wiz to respond.

Having said that, LeBron gets all the calls Jordan got, but without the championships. Whoever posted LBJ's scoring averages against us this year is a moron. 28.6? That's less than he averaged for the year. How is that scoring at will?

Posted by: Worthless | April 22, 2008 5:20 PM

Lebron is an actor. a fake. a charlatain. He got "hammered" on Haywood's foul, just like he got hit in the face (read chest) on the blocking call.

For someone as good as he is, it's embarrassing to watch him plead his case.

Suck it up and go to the free throw line, if you don't want the punishment, settle for that jumper. If you want to come to the hole, expect something harder than what you have received.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:24 PM

rock....what are you 3 years old? if we could only bring back........get a life. Nobody is as good as KING JAMES except Kobe "The Rapist" Bryant.4 games and you are out!!! You need a new coach and about 10 new players. Enjoy watching the cavs in 2nd round.

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 5:25 PM

Cleveland Bob-- No way LBJ is as good as Kobe, he is a close second though. The problem with Cleveland is the rest of the team. They are god awful! Devin Brown is a starter? Really? Once the Cavs get smacked in DC, it's a 3 game series, with all the pressure on the Cavs. This is a long way from over.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:29 PM

I'm a huge Wizards fans and was embarrassed by their effort last night. Bottom line is that Cleveland beat us in every way imaginable, including coaching. EJ needs to be able to get his players to play with poise and composure which. Too much one one one from GA and CB3 & no running of the offense. A team REFLECTS its coach and that's how we're playing. Any smart coach would NEVER have said publicly his team intended to foul the other team's star player. It only attracts further attention from the refs.

DSS and GA should never have run their mouths off before the series. It's one thing to trash talk on the court, but it's another when we haven't beaten the Cavs in 8 playoff games!!!!

Time to put up or shut up now that we've got 2 home games and no more complaints about lingering injuries. All teams have guys banged up at this point of the season.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 22, 2008 5:30 PM

Yes superstars like LeBron get a majority of the calls. It happened with MJ, Kobe, LeBron and it will continue to happen with other superstars. Is that why the Wizards lost? No. Making four 4th quarter shots in game one is why they lost. Playing with no intensity after the midway point of the 2nd quarter is why they lost game two.

As far as getting all the calls some people don't seem to understand what that means. It doesn't always mean fouls. Yeah the Wizards shot more free throws but that doesn't mean they got more calls. If the whistle doesn't blow on a travel, illegal screen, double dribble, etc that is what people mean by getting calls. Even though LeBron does travel on a regular basis and has since he came into the league it won't be called because he is a superstar and can get away with it. Also a travel here and there didn't cause them to lose by 30.

I am a Wizards fan and a realistic one. Stevenson opened his mouth when he shouldn't have but it didn't matter. LeBron is doing what he usually does to the Wizards and averaging about what he did for the season. Gil is too caught up in trying up show LeBron up instead of helping the team win. Mason's shot has left the building, Caron doesn't look good whether it be injury or rust and the Wizards are playing some of the slowest tempo ball I have seen them play in years. Yeah it's the playoffs and everything should slow down but they didn't play like that during the regular season so why start now? Hopefully they make things competitive and don't get swept.

Posted by: bigtom34 | April 22, 2008 5:31 PM

I feel sorry for you wiz fans..It must suck having a hasbeen allstar instead of a here and now superstar.

Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 5:31 PM

Wizfan89 -- you are correct sir. The only part i disagree with is that they should keep their mouths shut. I refuse to believe that those comments make a difference. An athlete the caliber of Princess James does not need a role player to get him pumped up for the playoffs. If D-Steve wouldn't have said anything, the story would still be the same to this point. It hasn't had any effect at all.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:33 PM

Whats up with Lebron grabing his lips on every foul?

Posted by: Justin Time | April 22, 2008 5:33 PM

We played without a heart. We're so caught up in trying to foul LeBron that we lost focus of the task at hand. Forget about defense with Gilbert in the lineup. Our game is run-and-gun with Gil in. But Gil's still hurt. Has anybody noticed that Gil falls down everytime he tries to take a quick step?

Posted by: Costa | April 22, 2008 5:38 PM

"We need to take Lebron out, look at how HORRIBLE they are without him."

What a horrible thing to say. You're actually advocating that a team intentionally hurt the other team's star player just to win a game? What an awful excuse for a human being you are.

"Having said that, LeBron gets all the calls Jordan got, but without the championships."

LeBron's only 23. Jordan didn't have any championships at that point in his life either, and he still got calls.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 5:40 PM

Glad we just locked up DeShawn for the next 5 years.

I wish we still had Hughes.

Maybe Nick Young will be good in a few years though.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:45 PM

I feel sorry for you wiz fans..It must suck having a hasbeen allstar instead of a here and now superstar.

Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 5:31 PM

I feel sorry for you cleveland fans who have to come over to the Washington Post Wizards Insider forum because you don't have a Cleveland Cavaliers Insider forum in your city. Oh wait you do have one, so why are you here?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:50 PM

Cleveland fans, here is your forum:
http://www.cleveland.com/forums/cavs/

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:55 PM

Gilbert is a gimp who's awful on D and kills the ball movement on offense. Eddie Jordan will be fired for allowing this team to play to this awful dismal level. If we moved the ball like a half way decent team, we would have won game 1 and been competitive game 2. Eddie Jordan has lost 14 of his past 16 playoff games. LOSER.

Posted by: Justin | April 22, 2008 5:55 PM

DeShawn Stevenson:

"the way the Cavaliers fans treated me over there. They had thousands of signs, and putting my comments on the scoreboard"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:57 PM

I feel sorry for you wiz fans..It must suck having a hasbeen allstar instead of a here and now superstar.

Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 5:31 PM

I feel sorry for you cleveland fans who have to come over to the Washington Post Wizards Insider forum because you don't have a Cleveland Cavaliers Insider forum in your city. Oh wait you do have one, so why are you here?

Funny how you did not disagree with my comment...Must suck to be a wiz fan..be a man and just admit that cleveland is the better team for whatever reason.we did last year in finals. no crying in cleveland..we are used to losing teams.as far as the rest of cavs team not being any good...there are not to many teams that have a tough big three like us...at least admit that Z is in the top 4 centers in the nba today. and do not count shaq he is done but still top 8 maybe..

Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 6:03 PM

Cleveland fans, here is your forum:
http://www.cleveland.com/forums/cavs/

you wiz fans are crying so loud that we can hear you al the way in cleveland.cry softer please

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 6:06 PM

clevefan- your superstar gets favorable calls. As for the Wiz, they need to attacked the basket and stop taking dumb outside shots every time.

Posted by: baller99 | April 22, 2008 6:09 PM

Anyone who thinks the Cavaliers don't play dirty must not have been watching the same games. Perhaps you missed Delonte West last night intentionally tripping Arenas? Why did he have to do that? It must have served his purpose cause it did bother Arenas who tried to retaliate two plays later and immediately got called for it.
Perhaps you missed LeTravel clobber Antonio Daniels (who was trying to get up after slipping and losing the ball) across the chest and neck? Well so did the refs intentionally not see it.

Posted by: umbrage | April 22, 2008 6:10 PM

last week Eddie Jordan was being talked about as a possible coach of the year candidate, now it's sayonara? Are Wizards fans that fickle?

Posted by: gm | April 22, 2008 6:11 PM

better teams win and better teams get the calls. not rocket science girls..Pro ball not little league. everyone can not be a winner..sorry but you are the losers..get a better coach and replace some players. By the way ...what was up with that eye sandwich when you are down by 16..real mature

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 6:15 PM

Why is LeBron allowed to take 3 steps??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 6:16 PM

Ivan, please voice this concern: WHY IS LeBRON ALLOWED TO TAKE 3 STEPS???

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 6:17 PM

it's a good thing Deshawn and Gilbert said all the things that they did, because if you believe all the analysts and Cleveland people who say it motivated the cavs and fired them up, it must mean that they wouldn't have been fired up and ready for the series if the wizards had kept quiet. So Cleveland fans should thank Gil and Deshawn because obviously the playoffs and the paychecks and the prestige and the national TV wouldn't have been enough motivation and the cavs would be down 2 games instead of the other way around.

Posted by: gm | April 22, 2008 6:17 PM

Ivan, please voice this concern: WHY IS LeBRON ALLOWED TO TAKE 3 STEPS???

hop skip and a jump is not 3 steps...get over it..series is over...Cleveland is better team.. you girls are so easy to get riled up. shame you can not rile up King Jame same way.You tried but with no luck. Get better coach and better players...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 6:24 PM

GM,
In a word, yes. It's the nature of the sport's fan beast. To be fair, most of them haven't a clue, that includes the ones in Cleveland, Washington and everywhere else for that matter.

Posted by: myshkin | April 22, 2008 6:41 PM

if i was a cleveland fan I'd be posting here too...

I mean sh@t, this is their big chance. And cleveland basically sucks. So, why not.

Welcome all ye refugees...

OK, that hit by Haywood wasn't "dirty" or "cheap" it was a hard foul. We see them all the time.

I could have a TON of respect for LeBron. But that would be a waste, and you all know it. As good as he is, he still sucks. That's a pretty difficult achievement. But his biggest detractor is how much whining flopping , screaming, crying and carrying on he does. He's just not good enough to overcome that. Like watching a spoiled brat... it's jut no fun. LeBron has been hard fouled one time. (1) read it. in this whole series, and you guys have turned the wiz into the second coming of the detroit pistons.

Are you serious, Is LeBron that weak?

This is the Wizards. They don't "really" bang. If you can't handle this, you need to take up figure skating, at least then we know it's all about judges. LeBron's perfect 10, busted lip gripe was a real beauty.

OUR new Detroit hack a shaq line up... OOOOh yeah. You guys are a joke and your franchise is a waste, cause it's built around a wannabe, who will walk out of there... you watch.

The more you say about it the weaker you look.

Posted by: sodumb | April 22, 2008 6:57 PM

Eddie Jordan needs to go. He hasn't won a big game since his arrival and every time the Wizards come up short in a big game he has an excuse. To go along with that, no offense but he arguably has the worst coaching staff in the playoffs, himself included. Throughout his tenure he has always been a reactive coach instead of proactive to situations and his in game coaching is questionable at best. It's just time to move on. He's the longest tenured coach in the conference but his success can be attributed to Gilbert Arenas and Caron Butler. He has yet to develop a player that we have drafted and has stunted the growth of Brenden Haywood and Andray Blatche in the process. Bottom line the Cavs aren't a better team than the Wizards are and it's not showing because of coaching. And the worst part about it is that Gilbert gets all the blame from the talking heads in the city (TK, MW, etc.) If it weren't for Gilbert, Eddie Jordan would be an assistant for the Bobcats or something.

Posted by: eto4708 | April 22, 2008 7:03 PM

wait till u punks see what happens to the cavs on thursday......we're gonna harass the crap out of them.

Posted by: jacked | April 22, 2008 7:21 PM

If Stevenson/Butler/Daniels/Arenas can't play because they aren't healthy enough. Then EJ should put:

Mason-PG
Young_SG
Jamison-SF
Blatch-PF
Haywood-Center

Right now I think Butler/Arenas/Daniels/Stevenson are hurting us more than anything else. Mason/Young/Blatche proved they can be very effective pluse it will give us a huge line up.

Posted by: G | April 22, 2008 7:23 PM

Let's face it - the NBA got every one of these calls correct:

(1) Haywood flagrant 2 because he pushes the defenseless player without going for the ball at all.
(2) Varejao foul flagrant 1 because he went for the ball, but it was too aggressive.
(3) In game 1 - the halftime technicals were absolutley appropriate as well. Haywood for being the jerk and standing over Lebron. Lebron for taking exception and instigating. And Jameson for flying-in completely out of control, laying his hands on 2 Cavs and fighting the refs who were trying to restrain him.

Now the NBA has also made the right call on not suspending Haywood - it wasn't that egregious.

Posted by: Jimmy McNulty | April 22, 2008 7:24 PM

Haywood said he apologized to Lebron - said he was not trying to hurt him and that Mike Brown just needs to take a chill pill. Haywood said Mike Brown storms the court every time Lebron is touched. When asked if that was a violation...Haywood said you tell me....I sure thought so.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 7:29 PM

""Give him a full season with all three healthy and then see what happens."

We've been hearing that for 4 years now. At some point "wait until next year" ceases to be a stirring rallying cry. But firing Jordan (though it may well happen) won't change anything unless Grunfeld remakes the team, because the simple fact is that the combo of players is flawed and lacking in key areas, 3 all-stars or no.

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2008 7:38 PM

"He hasn't won a big game since his arrival and every time the Wizards come up short in a big game he has an excuse. "

Well, that's obvious nonsense. Beating the Celtics in a back-to-back wasn't big? Beating Chicago to advance to the second round for the first time in forever wasn't big? Beating Dallas and Phoenix and L.A. weren't big?

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2008 7:40 PM

Its funny how irrational you become when you lose. We are guilty of it also with our teams. If you seriously thought that the fouls between Haywood and Verajao were the same you are blinded by your Wizards spectacles. Anderson was cleary going for the ball where Haywood just caught a glimpse of LeBron going by and shoved him. Thats fine though. Whatever, let him play so that we cant add this to the list of excuses to why the Wizards will lose the series. We already have "LeBron is overrated, the refs are cheating, the NBA wants Lebron to advance, our players are not 100% etc...etc." They didnt cheat you out of 30 points. It was a blowout.

I think that the NBA is giving you a break by letting Haywood play. If I am Mike Brown Lance Allred would be coming off the bench and planting whoever drives to the hole with the intension of planting their face in the ground. Run straight to the locker room and change and act like you meant to get the flagrant 2 after the player gets hurt. And I dont want to hear about a suspension, because obviously the NBA says that it is ok. Its best that I am not coaching I guess.

Posted by: Cleveland Man | April 22, 2008 7:45 PM

But we are the team that took 3 out of 4 over Boston! We played harder in those reg season games than we do in the playoffs?

Why are the Wiz scared of Cleveland? Like deer in the headlights against an inferior team...

Just makes no sense...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 7:52 PM

Inferior = 2007 Eastern Conference Champions

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 7:55 PM

I dont care what you guys are talking about we got Wally and he is way hotter then anyone you have on your team! Heck even Z is better looking then anyone on your team!

Posted by: cleveland-bob-daughter | April 22, 2008 8:05 PM

I dont care what you guys are talking about Wally is way hotter then any player on your team! and Z is way better looking too!

Posted by: cleveland-bob-daughter | April 22, 2008 8:16 PM

To everyone making the comments about the Cavs getting calls because Mike Brown and LeBron are influencing the refs, then what you're saying is that not only are the Cavs playing better physically then the Wiz, but they are playing better mentally too. It's called gamesmanship and it happens in every sport. And if you really think the Wiz players aren't whining too, you better go watch the games again.

Maybe it has more to do with the fact that the whole Wizards team from the coach down have been talking trash about fouling hard, knocking LeBron out in the lane. If they are going to keep talking, they need to except the fact that Brown and Lebron are going to do what's necessary to protect their players. Maybe instead of talking trash and playing half court games during practice, the Wizards coaches and team leaders should put together a better game plan than Hack-a-Cav. Seems to be working brilliantly so far. I think we're starting to see which players are truely overated. Oh and hopefully that clever poster writes his tired response to this about bitter Cleveland fan. That's not played out yet.

Posted by: Wendal S | April 22, 2008 3:29 PM

Wahhhhh. The bullets will be lucky to see a game 5. Too much talkin, not enough talent.

Posted by: Matt | April 22, 2008 6:03 PM


We're all pathetic Cleveland fans suffering through a bitter Drought. It's gone so bad that we now resort to posting on other team's websites.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 8:18 PM

I dont care what you guys are talking about Wally is way hotter then any player on your team! and Z is way better looking too!

Posted by: cleveland-bob-daughter | April 22, 2008 8:19 PM

I dont care what you guys are talking about Wally is way hotter then any player on your team! and Z is way better looking too!

Posted by: cleveland-bob-daughter | April 22, 2008 8:19 PM

I dont care what you guys are talking about Wally is way hotter then any player on your team! and Z is way better looking too!

Posted by: cleveland bob daughter | April 22, 2008 8:21 PM

What a joke. Your team is classless. Cant wait to see what you try to do on Thursday.

Keep your mouths shut and just play ball.


Go Cavs

Posted by: Mike | April 22, 2008 3:04 PM

My city is Winless. I can't wait to see if we can end the drought in the next 40 years. I would just keep my mouth shut, but I'm a desperate Cleveland fan. That's why I'm trolling on your site.

Posted by: Mike | April 22, 2008 8:21 PM

Kalorama,

Those are all regular season games. The Laker have lost to the Clippers and Memphis in the regular season and Wizards have lost to the Bobcats and the Clippers this season. So you aren't making a point. Gilbert Arenas won those Bull games with game winning shot. Eddie Jordan had nothing to do with that. He is 0-8 in the last 8 playoff games, it speaks for itself.

Posted by: firejordannow | April 22, 2008 8:28 PM

Kalorama,

Those are all regular season games. The Laker have lost to the Clippers and Memphis in the regular season and Wizards have lost to the Bobcats and the Clippers this season. So you aren't making a point. Gilbert Arenas won those Bull games with game winning shot. Eddie Jordan had nothing to do with that. He is 0-8 in the last 8 playoff games, it speaks for itself.

Posted by: firejordannow | April 22, 2008 8:28 PM

Kalorama,

Those are all regular season games. The Laker have lost to the Clippers and Memphis in the regular season and Wizards have lost to the Bobcats and the Clippers this season. So you aren't making a point. Gilbert Arenas won those Bull games with game winning shot. Eddie Jordan had nothing to do with that. He is 0-8 in the last 8 playoff games, it speaks for itself.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:28 PM

Kalorama,

Those are all regular season games. The Laker have lost to the Clippers and Memphis in the regular season and Wizards have lost to the Bobcats and the Clippers this season. So you aren't making a point. Gilbert Arenas won those Bull games with game winning shot. Eddie Jordan had nothing to do with that. He is 0-8 in the last 8 playoff games, it speaks for itself.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:31 PM

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

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Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM
Clearly we will never end this pathetic DROUGHT.

Cleveland Fans:

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

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Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM


Clearly we will never end this DROUGHT!!

Cleveland Fans:

Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! It's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:32 PM

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

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Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM
Clearly we will never end this pathetic DROUGHT.

Cleveland Fans:

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

--------------


Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM


Clearly we will never end this DROUGHT!!

Cleveland Fans:

Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! It's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:32 PM

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

--------------


Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM
Clearly we will never end this pathetic DROUGHT.

Cleveland Fans:

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

--------------


Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM


Clearly we will never end this DROUGHT!!

Cleveland Fans:

Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! It's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:32 PM

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

--------------


Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM
Clearly we will never end this pathetic DROUGHT.

Cleveland Fans:

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

--------------


Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM


Clearly we will never end this DROUGHT!!

Cleveland Fans:

Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! It's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:32 PM

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

--------------


Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM
Clearly we will never end this pathetic DROUGHT.

Cleveland Fans:

Haywood isn't a dirty player, and you Cavs fans who thought he was trying to injure LeTravel are crazy and blind. He went up to make a play on the ball, but LeTravel made a move that caught Haywood out of position, so instead, LeTravel got a little shove. It wasn't a hit on the man. So get over it. You all call it thuggery like LeTravel the princess can't be touched. Give me a break. This is basketball. Contact is made. Deal with it.

--------------


Riiiiight. Clearly he was going for the ball!!

Wiz huddle:

Hit him! Hit him! it's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:19 PM


Clearly we will never end this DROUGHT!!

Cleveland Fans:

Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! Post on other team's site! It's all we can do.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:32 PM

I think that Cleveland fans are "trolling your site" because you are so famoulsy known for talking smack via blogging. Dont worry, we will all be gone after the 4th or 5th game of the series.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:32 PM

I think that Cleveland fans are "trolling your site" because you are so famously known for talking smack via blogging. Dont worry, we will all be gone after the 4th or 5th game of the series.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:32 PM

I think that Cleveland fans are "trolling your site" because you are so famously known for talking smack via blogging. Dont worry, we will all be gone after the 4th or 5th game of the series.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:36 PM

I believe we are "trolling your site" because you are so famously known for talking smack while blogging. Dont worry, we will all be gone by the 4th or 5th game of the series.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:39 PM

I'm not a cavs fan or a wizards fan, but just to clear a few things up here:

There is no way Haywood made a play on the ball, his hands were on his shoulder and waist and he made a pushing movement with his arms. He may have intended to make a play on the ball, however he did no such thing.

As for the cavs fans, I don't believe Haywood meant to hurt LeBron or harm him, I think he saw LeBron charging to an open rim and made a move.

It was clearly a flagrant-2, the NBA rules state that if the player receives a T and is not making a play on the ball or not indenting to make a "basketball move" then it's a F-2 and automatic boot.

With all that being said there is no way he should be suspended for another game.

I'm not a fan of either team, I'm from Chicago therefore a Bulls fan, however you Wizards fans are being a bunch of cry babies! You guys lost, there were a few bad calls on each side of the floor just like any other game. You all forget when James received that blocking foul past 3-point range when he really got pushed. Or in the first game where he got cloths-lined in the face.

Posted by: frankgr | April 22, 2008 3:24 PM


OK OK, fine you caught me. I'm a pathetic Cleveland fan too, posing as a Chicago fan.

Posted by: frankgr | April 22, 2008 8:39 PM

I'm not a cavs fan or a wizards fan, but just to clear a few things up here:

There is no way Haywood made a play on the ball, his hands were on his shoulder and waist and he made a pushing movement with his arms. He may have intended to make a play on the ball, however he did no such thing.

As for the cavs fans, I don't believe Haywood meant to hurt LeBron or harm him, I think he saw LeBron charging to an open rim and made a move.

It was clearly a flagrant-2, the NBA rules state that if the player receives a T and is not making a play on the ball or not indenting to make a "basketball move" then it's a F-2 and automatic boot.

With all that being said there is no way he should be suspended for another game.

I'm not a fan of either team, I'm from Chicago therefore a Bulls fan, however you Wizards fans are being a bunch of cry babies! You guys lost, there were a few bad calls on each side of the floor just like any other game. You all forget when James received that blocking foul past 3-point range when he really got pushed. Or in the first game where he got cloths-lined in the face.

Posted by: frankgr | April 22, 2008 3:24 PM


OK OK, fine you caught me. I'm a pathetic Cleveland fan too, posing as a Chicago fan.

Posted by: frankgr | April 22, 2008 8:39 PM

Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards." Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact. Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant. Seriously, toughen up you prima-dona. Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now

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He is too strong for the Wiz, how many times does he need to prove that?

I think what makes you guys the angriest is that he keeps getting up after all of the cheap shots.

I am not sure how many more times he can get jacked like that though without inevitably getting seriously injured. But that is what you are all after anyway, maybe if you keep it up your wishes will be granted.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:25 PM

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:41 PM

I believe we are "trolling your site" because you are so famously known for blogging. Oh, but dont you worry, we will all be gone by the 4th or 5th game of the series.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:41 PM

Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards." Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact. Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant. Seriously, toughen up you prima-dona. Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now

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He is too strong for the Wiz, how many times does he need to prove that?

I think what makes you guys the angriest is that he keeps getting up after all of the cheap shots.

I am not sure how many more times he can get jacked like that though without inevitably getting seriously injured. But that is what you are all after anyway, maybe if you keep it up your wishes will be granted.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:25 PM


Cleveland fans are pathetic, how many more times do we need to prove that. Look at us, we resorted to post on your site.

I think what makes me the angriest is that we keep the Drought going year after year.

I hope my wishes come true and the Drought ends and I can stop posting on your site.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:47 PM

Wizards in 6.

Posted by: PTP23 | April 22, 2008 8:47 PM

Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards." Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact. Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant. Seriously, toughen up you prima-dona. Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now

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He is too strong for the Wiz, how many times does he need to prove that?

I think what makes you guys the angriest is that he keeps getting up after all of the cheap shots.

I am not sure how many more times he can get jacked like that though without inevitably getting seriously injured. But that is what you are all after anyway, maybe if you keep it up your wishes will be granted.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:25 PM


Cleveland fans are pathetic, how many more times do we need to prove that. Look at us, we resorted to post on your site.

I think what makes me the angriest is that we keep the Drought going year after year.

I hope my wishes come true and the Drought ends and I can stop posting on your site.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:47 PM

Wizards in 6.

Posted by: PTP23 | April 22, 2008 8:47 PM

Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards." Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact. Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant. Seriously, toughen up you prima-dona. Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now

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He is too strong for the Wiz, how many times does he need to prove that?

I think what makes you guys the angriest is that he keeps getting up after all of the cheap shots.

I am not sure how many more times he can get jacked like that though without inevitably getting seriously injured. But that is what you are all after anyway, maybe if you keep it up your wishes will be granted.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:25 PM


Cleveland fans are pathetic, how many more times do we need to prove that. Look at us, we resorted to post on your site.

I think what makes me the angriest is that we keep the Drought going year after year.

I hope my wishes come true and the Drought ends and I can stop posting on your site.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 8:48 PM

Wiz in 6. Take it to the bank.

Posted by: PTP23 | April 22, 2008 8:53 PM

Lebron points to his arms towards the end of Game 1 signalining "He's too strong for the wizards." Well, then why is Lebron constantly checking his lips if they're 'bleeding' after every bit of contact. Did anyone else notice how Lebron was pointing to his elbow after that flagarant. Seriously, toughen up you prima-dona. Wizards tie up the series after two close wins at home. Uh oh Lebron, all the calls won't go totally your way now

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He is too strong for the Wiz, how many times does he need to prove that?

I think what makes you guys the angriest is that he keeps getting up after all of the cheap shots.

I am not sure how many more times he can get jacked like that though without inevitably getting seriously injured. But that is what you are all after anyway, maybe if you keep it up your wishes will be granted.

Posted by: Wood | April 22, 2008 3:25 PM


Cleveland fans are pathetic, how many more times do we need to prove that. Look at us, we resorted to post on your site.

I think what makes me the angriest is that we keep the Drought going year after year.

I hope my wishes come true and the Drought ends and I can stop posting on your site.

Posted by: wood | April 22, 2008 8:53 PM

Hit!Hit!Hit!

Posted by: Mike Brown | April 22, 2008 8:55 PM

Wiz 4 Cavs 2. Take it to the bank.

Posted by: PTP23 | April 22, 2008 8:55 PM

Looking at wiz fan comments on this thread is really, really funny. Lebron owns you. Just absolutely owns you. The NBA wants more games involving Lebron, not less, so if they wanted to fix things they would be trying to get these series's extended to 6/7 games and not having your poor bodies swept out of the arena in 8 consecutive games. I'm in LA (originally Oregon) and don't even watch the Eastern Conference except in the playoffs, but I've seen enough Cavs/Wizards the last three years to know what kind of chances your boys stand.
Posted by: Jonathan | April 22, 2008 3:39 PM


Just joking, I'm an actual Cleveland Fan. The Drought just absolutely owns us. It makes us pathetic.

Posted by: Jonathan | April 22, 2008 8:55 PM

Wow, there are a lot of excuses. Do all of you claiming that the Cavs are getting all of the calls realize that the Wizards shot 7 more free throws than the Cavs in Game 2? Not that the players could make any shots, but kind of blows out that excuse a little doesn't it?
Posted by: GregoryS | April 22, 2008 3:50 PM


Can someone help me come up with an excuse as to why my pathetic city can't end such a long drought, and why I can't stop posing on another's city websites.

Posted by: GregoryS | April 22, 2008 9:02 PM

Wow, there are a lot of excuses. Do all of you claiming that the Cavs are getting all of the calls realize that the Wizards shot 7 more free throws than the Cavs in Game 2? Not that the players could make any shots, but kind of blows out that excuse a little doesn't it?
Posted by: GregoryS | April 22, 2008 3:50 PM


Can someone help me come up with an excuse as to why my pathetic city can't end such a long drought, and why I can't stop posing on another's city websites.

Posted by: GregoryS | April 22, 2008 9:19 PM

As a Cavs fan, I have gotten pretty familiar with Washington Fans and media over the last 3 playoffs and one thing has constantly amazed me:
Nothing is apparantly EVER the Wizards fault. You guys are the worlds biggest enablers with this team and thats why they constantly under-perform. "Oh they got blown out, not YOUR fault guys is was the injuries, or the refs, or a league wide conspiracy". If Stevenson made those comments as a member of the Cavs and then fallen on his sword like he's done our writers and pretty much every other city's writers would've CRUCIFIED him. Not your fanboy Wizards journalists though. They just console him and pat him on the back.
Until you guys turn the spotlight on your team and realize that they just aren't very good nothing will change. Demand accountability from your franchise, don't blame the league and bad timing for everything. It's no wonder nobody respect the Wiz...
Posted by: Statutory Stevenson | April 22, 2008 3:51 PM

We know who's fault the Drought is, the pathetic city of Cleveland. We tried to demand accountability but then the Browns left. So now we just let all our teams be pathetic. No wonder everyone thinks our drought will never end and we will always be pathetic.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 9:29 PM

As a Cavs fan, I have gotten pretty familiar with Washington Fans and media over the last 3 playoffs and one thing has constantly amazed me:
Nothing is apparantly EVER the Wizards fault. You guys are the worlds biggest enablers with this team and thats why they constantly under-perform. "Oh they got blown out, not YOUR fault guys is was the injuries, or the refs, or a league wide conspiracy". If Stevenson made those comments as a member of the Cavs and then fallen on his sword like he's done our writers and pretty much every other city's writers would've CRUCIFIED him. Not your fanboy Wizards journalists though. They just console him and pat him on the back.
Until you guys turn the spotlight on your team and realize that they just aren't very good nothing will change. Demand accountability from your franchise, don't blame the league and bad timing for everything. It's no wonder nobody respect the Wiz...
Posted by: Statutory Stevenson | April 22, 2008 3:51 PM

We know who's fault the Drought is, the pathetic city of Cleveland. We tried to demand accountability but then the Browns left. So now we just let all our teams be pathetic. No wonder everyone thinks our drought will never end and we will always be pathetic.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 9:29 PM

Wiz in 6.

Posted by: PTP23 | April 22, 2008 9:29 PM

As a Cavs fan, I have gotten pretty familiar with Washington Fans and media over the last 3 playoffs and one thing has constantly amazed me:
Nothing is apparantly EVER the Wizards fault. You guys are the worlds biggest enablers with this team and thats why they constantly under-perform. "Oh they got blown out, not YOUR fault guys is was the injuries, or the refs, or a league wide conspiracy". If Stevenson made those comments as a member of the Cavs and then fallen on his sword like he's done our writers and pretty much every other city's writers would've CRUCIFIED him. Not your fanboy Wizards journalists though. They just console him and pat him on the back.
Until you guys turn the spotlight on your team and realize that they just aren't very good nothing will change. Demand accountability from your franchise, don't blame the league and bad timing for everything. It's no wonder nobody respect the Wiz...
Posted by: Statutory Stevenson | April 22, 2008 3:51 PM

We know who's fault the Drought is, the pathetic city of Cleveland. We tried to demand accountability but then the Browns left. So now we just let all our teams be pathetic. No wonder everyone thinks our drought will never end and we will always be pathetic.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 9:29 PM

yes I am a cleveland fan and I know cleveland sucks.I've lived here for over 4 decades. Basketball.baseball.football.soccer.hockey....We suck most of the time///BUT NOT THIS TIME...NOT THIS SERIES....YOU DO...GET OVER IT AND TUCK TAIL AND RUN...YOU SUCK...

Posted by: Cleveland Fans | April 22, 2008 9:36 PM

As a Cavs fan, I have gotten pretty familiar with Washington Fans and media over the last 3 playoffs and one thing has constantly amazed me:
Nothing is apparantly EVER the Wizards fault. You guys are the worlds biggest enablers with this team and thats why they constantly under-perform. "Oh they got blown out, not YOUR fault guys is was the injuries, or the refs, or a league wide conspiracy". If Stevenson made those comments as a member of the Cavs and then fallen on his sword like he's done our writers and pretty much every other city's writers would've CRUCIFIED him. Not your fanboy Wizards journalists though. They just console him and pat him on the back.
Until you guys turn the spotlight on your team and realize that they just aren't very good nothing will change. Demand accountability from your franchise, don't blame the league and bad timing for everything. It's no wonder nobody respect the Wiz...
Posted by: Statutory Stevenson | April 22, 2008 3:51 PM


We know who's fault the Drought is, the pathetic city of Cleveland. We tried to demand accountability but then the Browns left. So now we just let all our teams be pathetic. No wonder everyone thinks our drought will never end and we will always be pathetic.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 9:38 PM

And what would the Wizards know about low-class. Would that be claiming one of the league's best player's is over-rated? Or Zero claiming to want the Cavs because they are the percieved worst team and that the Cavs couldn't beat them 3 years straight? Is that what you mean by low class?
Posted by: Low Class? | April 22, 2008 4:08 PM

Our meaning of low class is trying to ignore this glaring Drought but still try to troll on other team's websites as if we are winners.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 9:39 PM

Why do so many Cleveland fans come to our blog to troll????? I have NEVER gone to their blog, and never will. Gloating is so low-class. Gloat on your own blog.
Posted by: Why? | April 22, 2008 4:01 P
In other words, leave us alone so we can delude ourselves and invent conspiracies against the Wiz. Please don't expose our fanboy reinventions of has already happened, we would rather not know that LeBron always points to his bicep to tell a teammate to go strong to the hole or that his elbow was bleeding after the Haywood shove. We want to ignore the facts the rest of the world sees, ones that even Charles Barkley, no fan of Lebron, acknowledges. Stop trying to take our rose-colored glasses off!

Posted by: Dunbar | April 22, 2008 4:17 PM
We would rather not know we have a 40+ year drought. We want to ignore that not ONE of our teams could win a Championship for so long. It's nothing we can do so we never take off our rose-colored glasses.

Posted by: Dunbar | April 22, 2008 9:40 PM

"We all knew the refs would give all of the calls to LeTravel."
Except they didn't. The Wizards shot more free throws than the Cavs in game two.
"Give him a full season with all three healthy and then see what happens....."
I don't think Arenas has a full healthy season in him any more. Keep on hoping, though...
Also, I'm sick of that "we're hurt" excuse. It's so tired. When the Cavs lost to the Spurs in the Finals last year, no one was blaming it on Hughes' injury (although I do blame Mike Brown for playing Hughes even though he was hurt) even though he was one of our key defensive players. We just accepted that the Cavs got beat by the better team.
We also didn't make all sorts of ridiculous excuses, like that the game was rigged, or that the refs were against us. We just accepted that the Cavs got beat by the better team.
Maybe you guys should take a page out of our book this year and stop making excuses.
Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 4:19 PM

I'm also sick of our drought. When the Cavs lost to the Spurs last year, it added another pathetic year to our drought. We just accepted our city is pathetic. Never mind about taking a page out of our books, because you might get a 40 year drought too.

Posted by: briantw | April 22, 2008 9:41 PM

DC fans are so pitiful!!!grow up!!!your team sucks!!!get over it...King James!!!MVP
Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 4:59 PM

But not as pitiful as us Cleveland Fans. Not only do the Cavs suck, the whole City sucks. We've been trying to get over the drought, but we can't. That is the reason we surf your site.

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 9:42 PM

Dear Wizards fans,
I use to live in D.C. and I have to say, I have never seen a more pathetic group of fans. First, half the people in the stadiums cheer for the other team. Then most of the games are filled with stuffy lawyers and congress people drinking lattes and sushi. Not only do the fans suck, but moreover, the teams. The Wizards have always sucked and never reached the level to be able to talk trash to any team or player, ESPECIALLY the leading scorer and probably the best or second best (Kobe) player in the league. Three years in a row Wizards have gotten smacked down like little girls. Just keep your mouths shut, until you have a worthy team. Until then, just grab your ankles and take it like the little girls you are.
Posted by: WizardKiller | April 22, 2008 5:00 PM


I live in Cleveland now, and man is it pathetic here. Not only do the fans suck but ALL of our teams suck. We have never reached the level to talk trash to any other team or city, but we still do. As a matter of fact, we spend all our time on other city's sites. 47 years in a row Cleveland has gotten smacked by other cities. I wish I can keep my mouth shut, but the only I can myself feel better is talk non-sense.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 9:43 PM

rock....what are you 3 years old? if we could only bring back........get a life. Nobody is as good as KING JAMES except Kobe "The Rapist" Bryant.4 games and you are out!!! You need a new coach and about 10 new players. Enjoy watching the cavs in 2nd round.

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 5:25 PM
And we'll enjoy another pathetic season without a championship.

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 9:44 PM

I feel sorry for you wiz fans..It must suck having a hasbeen allstar instead of a here and now superstar.
Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 5:31 PM

I feel worse for us Cleveland Fans. It really sucks not winning anything for over 40 years and having to hang on Lebron's nutz even though he's leaving us like the Browns did.

Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 9:45 PM

Funny how you did not disagree with my comment...Must suck to be a wiz fan..be a man and just admit that cleveland is the better team for whatever reason.we did last year in finals. no crying in cleveland..we are used to losing teams.as far as the rest of cavs team not being any good...there are not to many teams that have a tough big three like us...at least admit that Z is in the top 4 centers in the nba today. and do not count shaq he is done but still top 8 maybe..
Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 6:03 PM

Funny how nobody can disagree Cleveland Fans are pathetic. You can't argue a 40 year drought.

Posted by: clevefan | April 22, 2008 9:46 PM

Cleveland fans, here is your forum:
http://www.cleveland.com/forums/cavs/
you wiz fans are crying so loud that we can hear you al the way in cleveland.cry softer please
Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 6:06 PM

Us Cleveland Fans are so pathetic, even Philly fans feel sorry for us.

Posted by: cleveland bob | April 22, 2008 9:47 PM

I think that Cleveland fans are "trolling your site" because you are so famously known for talking smack via blogging. Dont worry, we will all be gone after the 4th or 5th game of the series.
Posted by: | April 22, 2008 8:36 PM

A bigger worry, we continue to be pathetic and add another year to the Drought.

Posted by: cleveland fan | April 22, 2008 9:47 PM

yes I am a cleveland fan and I know cleveland sucks.I've lived here for over 4 decades. Basketball.baseball.football.soccer.hockey....We suck most of the time///BUT NOT THIS TIME...NOT THIS SERIES....YOU DO...GET OVER IT AND TUCK TAIL AND RUN...YOU SUCK...
Posted by: Cleveland Fans | April 22, 2008 9:36 PM

Damn, I just realized that this series won't end our Drought. Now we have to continue to SUCK on Lebron's penis before he opts out.

Posted by: Cleveland Fans | April 22, 2008 9:48 PM

The reason we are "trolling your sight" is because you guys are so famous for blogging. I understand you talk a lot of smack on it so we decided to check it out. Just as Gilbert cant hide behind his comments, we sniffed you out too. Oh, but dont you worry, we will all be gone by the 4th or 5th game of the series.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 9:57 PM

The reason we are "trolling your sight" is because you guys are so famous for blogging. I understand you talk a lot of smack on it so we decided to check it out. Just as Gilbert cant hide behind his comments, we sniffed you out too. Oh, but dont you worry, we will all be gone by the 4th or 5th game of the series.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 9:57 PM

The main reason why we troll your site is because we are famous for our 40+ year Drought. Our fans and our city is pathetic so go to other sites. Oh don't worry though, our drought will continue no matter the outcome of this series. We have no life, so you will be seeing a lot of us on your site from now on.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 10:24 PM

"Those are all regular season games."

(A) You're wrong, because I quite clearly mentioned the Bulls game in the first round of the playoffs and (B) the post to which I was replying simply said that Jordan never won "big games." It didn't say anything about big playoff games.

I'm sorry, you were saying something about not having a point?

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2008 10:37 PM

"Gilbert Arenas won those Bull games with game winning shot. Eddie Jordan had nothing to do with that."

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2008 10:44 PM

To echo Ivan's sentiments: I was watching some soccer on tv today, and of course, somebody got shoved in the back and promptly started rolling around on the ground in apparent agony. They bring out the stretcher, he goes to the sidelines, and comes back 5 minutes later. Lebron James = Soccer King.

Posted by: satch | April 22, 2008 10:50 PM

Man, tonight's Caps loss floored me for two reasons. 1) They were so much fun to watch that I didn't want the season to end. 2) It left me realizing that all I have left now is this crappy Wizards team that chokes against the Cavs in the playoffs. I don't know that I can stand to watch such a heartless team in the NBA playoffs after watching a gutsy, determined, intense team in the Caps.

Posted by: Colin | April 22, 2008 10:51 PM

I don't blame the Cleveland fans for trolling our site. Our team is horrible and we keep making stupid excuses like Lebron gets all of the calls even though our team shot more foul shots in game 2. Yeah Cleveland may have a long championship drought, but we haven't had a team that's even competed in any sport in quite a while either. And the DC basketball teams haven't a serious contender since the 70's. We are really just jeallous of Lebron's rediculous skills and sick of our has been's talking trash that they can't back up. The three headed monster is all but slayed. Barkley is right, our team is the dumbest in the history of the NBA. We should just give up and save ourselves from further embarassment.

Posted by: Wizard Fan | April 22, 2008 10:53 PM

"Gilbert Arenas won those Bull games with game winning shot. Eddie Jordan had nothing to do with that."

Ahhh ... the old, "when they win the coach gets no credit but when they lose he gets all the blame" approach, a classic in the annals of dumb sports arguments. Og course, that's utter nonsense as well.

BTW, Just because you post something 4 times doesn't make it any less irrelevant.

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2008 10:54 PM

If you're lucky enough to be going to the next 2 games, be sure to do whatever you can to make it hell on earth for the Soccer King!

Encourage everyone around you to generate constant noise.

Constant noise, people!

Posted by: Unlucky | April 22, 2008 10:56 PM

I don't blame the Cleveland fans for trolling our site. Our team is horrible and we keep making stupid excuses like Lebron gets all of the calls even though our team shot more foul shots in game 2. Yeah Cleveland may have a long championship drought, but we haven't had a team that's even competed in any sport in quite a while either. And the DC basketball teams haven't a serious contender since the 70's. We are really just jeallous of Lebron's rediculous skills and sick of our has been's talking trash that they can't back up. The three headed monster is all but slayed. Barkley is right, our team is the dumbest in the history of the NBA. We should just give up and save ourselves from further embarassment.

Posted by: Wizard Fan | April 22, 2008 10:53 PM

It's gotten to the point where we've become so pathetic not only do we troll other team's websites but also act like we are their fan. We even try to justify our Drought and try to compare our misery to other teams. I know it's not working, but else is left for us to do.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 11:24 PM

Hey Unlucky:

If you are going to the game or know someone who will be going to the game make sure you not only make a lot of noise but sit close enough to let LeBron know how much he sucks and how overrated he is. That worked really well for fans this past year in Toronto and somewhere else I am forgetting. i.e. - he then proceeded to torch the team and let the fan know that they were the reason for their team's loss that night.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:38 PM

Hey Unlucky:

If you are going to the game or know someone who will be going to the game make sure you not only make a lot of noise but sit close enough to let LeBron know how much he sucks and how overrated he is. That worked really well for fans this past year in Toronto and somewhere else I am forgetting. i.e. - he then proceeded to torch the team and let the fan know that they were the reason for their team's loss that night.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 11:38 PM

He's going to let us know that he wasn't able to end our Drought this year either. He will then proceed to opt out and let the team and fans know they were the reason Cleveland is pathetic.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 11:45 PM

I just played this game out on nba live 08 and the Wizards won 106-101 with Gilby scoring 65 so it will come true.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 22, 2008 11:54 PM

put in McGuire to put a hurting on Lebron. Hard intentional foul to hurt his ugly ass. Out of the game and out of the playoffs for Queen James. I want to see him cry for real (not his crocodile tears for the refs). We won't miss McGuire if he is suspended and the some of the starters can pitch in to pay the fine. Great plan.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:58 PM

Do I have to spell out why I'm "unlucky"? Geez. Cleveland appears to be home to some of dumbest sods on the planet.

Noise, people, white noise! Four quarters of it till the Soccer King's ears are bleeding.

Posted by: Unlucky | April 23, 2008 12:21 AM

It's gotten to the point where we've become so pathetic not only do we troll other team's websites but also act like we are their fan. We even try to justify our Drought and try to compare our misery to other teams. I know it's not working, but else is left for us to do.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 11:45 PM

Cleveland Fan - Doesn't that fact that you're making fun of someone for pretending to be a Wiz fan make you just as pathetic for doing the same thing? Also, droughts are something that fans point out when their team is sucking in the present and the other team is handing them beat downs. You can't say anything about the present so you point to past failures. And Believe me, there are plenty of pathetic Wiz fans on our blogs, so you really can't say much about trolling. They just don't have much ammo right now other than "Waaa, we're not getting calls. Waaa, LeBron gets all the calls. Waaa, we have a million excuses other than our team sucks and is getting just plain out played." If pointing out a drought makes you feel better about your teams eight game playoff losing streak because the Wiz can't hang with the Cavs right now, then have at it. We're okay with that. We know our teams have sucked in the passed. Your problem is that your teams suck now. That is much worse.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 12:44 AM

Cleveland Fan - Doesn't that fact that you're making fun of someone for pretending to be a Wiz fan make you just as pathetic for doing the same thing? Also, droughts are something that fans point out when their team is sucking in the present and the other team is handing them beat downs. You can't say anything about the present so you point to past failures. And Believe me, there are plenty of pathetic Wiz fans on our blogs, so you really can't say much about trolling. They just don't have much ammo right now other than "Waaa, we're not getting calls. Waaa, LeBron gets all the calls. Waaa, we have a million excuses other than our team sucks and is getting just plain out played." If pointing out a drought makes you feel better about your teams eight game playoff losing streak because the Wiz can't hang with the Cavs right now, then have at it. We're okay with that. We know our teams have sucked in the passed. Your problem is that your teams suck now. That is much worse.

Posted by: | April 23, 2008 12:44 AM


No matter how much we try to play down the Drought, it still won't go away. Every year we say it's about the present, but then the present becomes part of the past Drought. Someone please help me get of your site, I'm addicted. I have no life. I'm a pathetic cleveland fan.

Posted by: cleveland fan | April 23, 2008 12:50 AM

Hi, I'm a cleveland fan and instead of staying on my own forum. I come here to talk trash on the wizards blog. This makes up for the fact that I'm unemployed and live in a abysmal cesspool of a city.

I love to see LeTravel cry as he takes 3-5 steps on his way to the basket, and gets a foul every time (even if he runs over 3 people in the process). I'm so glad they call fouls when people look at him mean, or breath on him too hard.

gotta go back to sniffing his jockstrap. Bye guys!

Posted by: LeTravel Fan | April 23, 2008 12:53 AM

Hi, I'm a cleveland fan and instead of staying on my own forum. I come here to talk trash on the wizards blog. This makes up for the fact that I'm unemployed and live in a abysmal cesspool of a city.

I love to see LeTravel cry as he takes 3-5 steps on his way to the basket, and gets a foul every time (even if he runs over 3 people in the process). I'm so glad they call fouls when people look at him mean, or breath on him too hard.

gotta go back to sniffing his jockstrap. Bye guys!

Posted by: LeTravel Fan | April 23, 2008 12:53 AM

i couldn't have said it better myself

Posted by: cleveland fan | April 23, 2008 12:59 AM

I have lost any and all respect for wizards fans and their media. Trying to argue that its the CAVS that were out of line and that haywood was actually going for the ball is completely INSANE. Haywood clearly pushes James in midair and its the NBA that is trying to FIX the series for the cavs. You people in washington are seriously the most ridiculous fans ive ever seen.

You'd think you all would have learned something from your boy Deshawn.. that there's a time when you just need to shutup before you start REALLY making yourself look so bad to the point where everyone just thinks youre a total jackass. All of washington is one big jackass.

Its over in 4

Posted by: ToWizNation | April 23, 2008 1:00 AM

what is all this talk about EJ getting another chance? are you crazy? why is it that ernie grunfeld is given credit for anything when he has made no effort to give Haywood any help. thank goodness jamison, butler, and sometimes blatche have rebounded beyond their abilities. i do not like grunfeld because he sat on his ass and let the team deteriorate for 2 yrs now carrying scrubs like booth and ruffin.

Posted by: jenksredskins | April 23, 2008 1:13 AM

abe pollin is a putz

Posted by: jenksredskins | April 23, 2008 1:20 AM

"I have lost any and all respect for wizards fans and their media. Trying to argue that its the CAVS that were out of line and that haywood was actually going for the ball is completely INSANE. Haywood clearly pushes James in midair and its the NBA that is trying to FIX the series for the cavs. You people in washington are seriously the most ridiculous fans ive ever seen.

You'd think you all would have learned something from your boy Deshawn.. that there's a time when you just need to shutup before you start REALLY making yourself look so bad to the point where everyone just thinks youre a total jackass. All of washington is one big jackass.

Its over in 4"

that's great, but nobody gives a crap because you're a nobody. And James? sure, he is a major talent in the NBA, but somebody with his build and body crying the way he does? especially with all the boasting and bragging about what a strong guy he is, blah blah. it makes me sick. it's one thing to "work" the officials. it's another to be a big crybaby anytime someone breathes on you. seriously, besides the Haywood foul, none of the fouls have been that bad. the cavs have given JUST AS good as they've taken, so clevelanders need to stop their whining. and people have already recognized that it's not the Cavs that are beating the Wiz, it's the Wiz that are beating themselves. they're playing poorly, but it's mostly a mental problem that they have. and you know what? all of the issues that have been raised (Z and Bron traveling, Mike Brown going onto the floor) are valid and have been pretty blatant. there isn't some big conspiracy to see james in the finals, but the refs sure as hell have blinders on when it comes to the cavs. and don't give me that crap about earning the calls. since when has Z done anything to earn the no-calls that he's been getting? James I can understand, but the fouls that Jamison has been receiving have just been ludicrous. If anybody should be complaining, it's Antawn. but he's a bigger man than LeBron, so he doesn't pout and cry any time somebody breathes on him.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 1:35 AM

Last year, the Cavs were down 2-0 to the Pistons. In game 2, LeBron got mugged by Rip Hamilton but there was no call. This was shortly after Rasheed Wallace sent Anderson Varejao flying with a stiff arm to free himself up to hit game winning bucket. Obviously, everyone in Cleveland was incensed, but a funny thing happened. In the post game press conferences, both Mike Brown and LeBron James said that the Cavs were a no excuse team and made no mention of the foul. People in the national media that night and the next day were almost pleading for Mike Brown to say something about it. Analysts on ESPN were cracking jokes about how Rip Hamilton should be in jail for "mugging". Well the Cavs shut up and played basketball and won 4 straight games.

Take a lesson from the Eastern Conference Champions.

Stop making excuses, and play. I don't care if from your point of view there was a travel here or the foul wasn't that bad - you lost by 30.

Posted by: A Word of Advice | April 23, 2008 2:04 AM

Make that "Soccer Baby". Waa Waa Waa

Pacifiers for the Soccer Baby!!!

Posted by: Unlucky | April 23, 2008 2:08 AM

Who here really cares what sods from Cleveland have to say? I haven't read more than a few lines from a few posts. Hard up for attention. Hahahah.

Noise it up, people!!!

Posted by: Unlucky | April 23, 2008 2:13 AM

Well, I see that a lot of people have posted since the Game 2 loss. I haven't seen the game yet....recorded it, but will only comment after I watch it.

Out.

Posted by: Real DC Man88 | April 23, 2008 2:32 AM

Why do we waste our time talking to Wizards fans? They dont even know what traveling is.. Watch lebron, he doesnt travel most of the time. He takes 2 steps, its just a lot of times he contorting his body to avoid people to get to the hole so it looks sort of funny. But its not a travel. Also, the steps count AFTER his last dribble. Somebody on here posted lebron takes 3-5 steps everytime. lol, 5 steps? buncha morons

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 2:41 AM

Ivan, there is NO way Haywood was going to be suspended! Did you see the Okur foul in the Utah series? He clubbed someone upside the head without a play on the ball either bc he got outhustled to the ball. If he did not get suspended, then a suspension of Haywood would have been a valid conspiracy theory. In fact, they only called a Flagrant 1 on that play.

Now EJ is getting out coached before and after games! Hello, EJ you need to defend your team, call Cleveland out, do something productive with your media time! You seem like you have given up just as your players have. Pathetic!

Posted by: Rob P | April 23, 2008 4:26 AM

My team sucks so bad it forces me to be insecure and bring up the other team's championship history, even though I wish we had a player as good as Lebron James instead of the chokers we currently employ.

Posted by: Wiz Fan | April 23, 2008 7:04 AM

Well, let's see if the Wizards team and fans can suck it up and take games 3 and 4.

If they can fine, then let the chips fall where they may. Win or lose, at least it will be a series.

If we get swept (ugh!) or beat 4-1 then the long summer begins. My son (who holds the season tickets now that I live in Poland) and I have begun talking about that.

Let's start with the draft. I would try very hard to get Roy Hibbert. We need a big man for the long term and Hibbert will either be available for us around #18, 19 or 20 or we could trade up to 15 or so where he will certainly be avaialble... Pecherov + our pick for the higher pick could do it.

Why Hibbert? Forget the NCAA game against Davidson, the man is over 7', smart, a local star who will sell seats and potentially the second coming of Brad Daugherty (16 and 10 for 8-10 years)... We can work him in behind Haywood and still have Etan Thomas to bang in reserve at the 4 or 5.

Then, sadly but necessarily, we need to trade Antawn Jamision now, as he is coming off a VERY strong season and can really help a young team that needs a savvy big scorer. My dream trade would be Jamison and Roger Mason Jr to Portland for LaMarcus Aldridge and Jarret Jack. Aldridge is a horse and will be for the next decade, but Portland could use AJ to help with the growth of Oden and Roy, while Mason gives them a fine shooting back-up to complement Outlaw, while Jack is redundant there. For us, we need to free up Mason's spot for Nick Young and Jack is potentially the ideal back-up point guard to replace Antonio Daniels, who is in his mid-30s.

Gilbert should be re-signed. There is no way we can get equal value for him and he remains a unique talent who we would regret losing the moment he is gone. If he leaves the Wizards, goes to a team like the Clippers or Bulls, matures emotionally and stays healthy, you are looking at 27-6-6 type numbers in a visiting uniform for the next 7 years and the curse of Le Boulez will truly live forever.

Finally, I would try to do a deal with Denver... Blatche (insurance for Nene and a good upside) and Daniels (Denver needs point guard help) for Linus Kleiza and change. Kleiza is a scoring big man, one of the best role players I have seen for several seasons, he would fit in well to the following remade lineup.

1 - Arenas, Jack
2 - Stevenson, Young
3 - Butler, Kleiza, McGuire
4 - Aldridge, Songaila, Thomas
5 - Haywood, Hibbert

Thoughts?

Posted by: khrabb | April 23, 2008 8:39 AM

"Take a lesson from the Eastern Conference Champions."

You mean the "Eastern Conference Chumpions."

There I fixed it for you, and no one asked you for your advice.

"Trying to argue that its the CAVS that were out of line and that haywood was actually going for the ball is completely INSANE."

Again, same exact foul on Antonio Daniels. You can't tell me that that poofy headed Cavs player was going for the ball either. Reggie Miller even argued that if it had been anyone else other the James would Haywood actually had been ejected. There's really nothing to argue here, it's always been that the stars of the NBA get "special" treatment and this was no exception. I know how you Cleveland always fans cringe at the sound of the words "Michael Jordan" but those very same rules apply to James as well. Hense the "Jordan" rules.

I love how the Cleveland fans come here and talk smack, even when they are wrong.

"Now EJ is getting out coached before and after games!"

I'm not gonna disagree with Rob. I've always said your team always takes the form of the head coach. The while team needs to step it up or they are going to get swept.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | April 23, 2008 8:52 AM

err "whole" team even.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | April 23, 2008 8:53 AM

Just when I thought this place couldnt get any worse, the sock-puppets come and pretend they are other posters.

Classic

Also, how does such a massive homer get a job as a blogger for a paper like the Washington Post?

Please tell me these guys arent the actual beat writers for the Wiz.

LeBron elbowing a guy is the same as pushing a defenseless player in the air? Wow.

Like I said, I am sure the Wiz and their fans will finally be happy once LeBron doesnt get up from one of your "hard fouls" then all will be right with the world.

I just hope they check the Wiz players for weapons like they do the fans, otherwise there is no telling what may happen if the Wiz go down by more than 8 points.

Posted by: Wood | April 23, 2008 8:58 AM

Last year, the Cavs were down 2-0 to the Pistons. In game 2, LeBron got mugged by Rip Hamilton but there was no call. This was shortly after Rasheed Wallace sent Anderson Varejao flying with a stiff arm to free himself up to hit game winning bucket. Obviously, everyone in Cleveland was incensed, but a funny thing happened. In the post game press conferences, both Mike Brown and LeBron James said that the Cavs were a no excuse team and made no mention of the foul. People in the national media that night and the next day were almost pleading for Mike Brown to say something about it. Analysts on ESPN were cracking jokes about how Rip Hamilton should be in jail for "mugging". Well the Cavs shut up and played basketball and won 4 straight games.

Take a lesson from the Eastern Conference Champions.

Stop making excuses, and play. I don't care if from your point of view there was a travel here or the foul wasn't that bad - you lost by 30.
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Best post in this thread.

The only thing that is actually funny is that all the mouth-running and "cheap-shotting" combined with the Wiz not showing up has made them a laughing stock, which is always a plus

Posted by: Wood | April 23, 2008 9:00 AM

You know, I have been reading and articles about the Wiz(all negative) and it really bothers me. The Wiz are being portrayed as nasty,cheap shot taking, classless team. And that is not the Wiz I know and have follwed for years. Yes we lost two games to Cleveland. These games were hyped up because of one person. I am beginning to wish that they had not signed Deshawn at all. Because of him and all of his trash talking, the Wiz trying to back up his sh** were taken out of their came. They got all caught up in the emotion and look at the outcome. Meanwhile, the main sh** talker has not done one darned thing while in the game. He alone made that idiotic statment and now wants the fans to come out and make noise to support him because of the way he was treated in Cleveland. Abuse is what happens to you when your mouth writew a check you can't cash. Unfortunately all of the Wiz got caught up in Deshawn's foolishenss. I will be there cheering on the Wiz loud and clear but it won't be to help out Deshawn. If he wants to make it up to the fans, then why don't he hit all of those threes he made in practice the other day during the game. How about that? As for my main boys, I will be there in white, as loud as I can be. GO WIZ! There are some of us real fans that still support you and will be there to cheer you on. Deshawn, from now on, play ball and keep your trap SHUT!

Posted by: Last WizFan standing | April 23, 2008 9:11 AM

Wood, you are an idiot. Ivan is not a homer....he is from Minneapolis - not a Wizards fan.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 9:15 AM

Wow. Tons of talk about the call on Haywood. Let's all just go along with the theory that the flagrant 2 on Lebron was a BS call. In fact, let's say every foul called on the Wiz was BS since the refs are Cavs fans (By the way, the Wiz shot 7 more foul shots then the Cavs). Let's take away every point the Cavs got on free throws. Final Score...94-86. Cavs up 2-0 in the series. Move on. Oh, I know Wiz fans. Cleveland is in a big drought. Got it. It's funny how you say that the Cavs whine to much. That's about all I see on this blog. A bunch of whining about fouls, like that's the reasaon you're losing.

Posted by: Ron | April 23, 2008 9:31 AM

What's so disappointing in this series so far is that every all-stars (and should be all-star - Ginobili) step up their game in the playoffs and our 3 all-stars (except for Jamison in game 1) are still a no-show. I hope they do good in game 3. There are players who are all-stars in the playoffs and some are just plain all-stars in the regular season. I sure hope the "big 3" don't fall in the latter.

Posted by: Dave, | April 23, 2008 9:32 AM

Wood, you are an idiot. Ivan is not a homer....he is from Minneapolis - not a Wizards fan.

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My bad, what is his excuse then for being a ridiculously biased blogger? If something you write has a name like the Washington Post tied to it, and is being read by the public, it should have some semblance of objectivity to it.

Can it be biased? sure. This guy takes it a whole different level, bordering on idiocy.

Posted by: Wood | April 23, 2008 9:42 AM

Whats up with the Cleveland in here? Hasn't the internet made it to Cleveland? Don't you have your own sportsblog somewhere you can go be jerks on?
I come in here to here to commiserate with my peeps, hear some positive thoughts.
I get bad sportsmanship, just Like 'Bron, taunting up 30. What you're doing is lame.

Posted by: cavswhohauntwapoblogsux | April 23, 2008 9:48 AM

Khrabb, I would get rid of Stevenson and sign Mason. Mason has a more solid shot and he keeps his mouth shut. Stevenson is the reason the Wiz is a laughing stock right now. TRADE DESHAWN!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 9:51 AM

Haywood's foul was dirty, but not intentional, IMO. I think the foul was out of frustration. If you look at the foul again DS and CB have to keep LBJ out of the lane, period!!! If I were Haywood I would be letting the backcourt have it. I mean LBJ should not be coming in the paint like he has been. As far as I am concerned, that foul and the majority of fouls that BH receives are a direct result of the back court inability to keep guards/forwards in front of them. In no way am I implying that LBJ or anyone else will not get to the paint, but the drives need to be kept to a minimum. Make LBJ a jump shooter, and guard everyone else straight up.

GO WIZARDS....... BOO TO THE TRAVELIERS!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bullets_0000 | April 23, 2008 9:51 AM

Is it worse to taunt up 30, or taunt down 17 like Soulja Boy, errrr, I mean DeShawn. Does he have special needs or just plain stupid?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 9:53 AM

Yeah, Haywood pushed Lebron in the chest while in the air. It wasn't a legal play and he was kicked out for it. I'm glad Lebron didn't land weird and get hurt, but I hope the next time Lebron goes to the rack Haywood makes a hard, professional foul going for the ball. I will respect him more if he doesn't shy away from the daunting task of defending the rim. As for game 3 strategy:

MUST FOUL OUT Z. MUST FOUL OUT Z. MUST FOUL OUT Z. MUST FOUL OUT Z. MUST FOUL OUT Z. MUST FOUL OUT Z!!!!!

Why? Because he is the second most important player and it can be done. No one is stopping Lebron except his agent, Phil Knight or one of his baby's momma's attorneys.

I suspect DCMan is both euphoric and on suicide watch.

Posted by: Pauly B. | April 23, 2008 10:01 AM

One weakness that the team have that have become so obvious in this series is the lack of ceiling. Besides Haywood everybody else is either lacking in height for there position (Jamison, Butler), can' jump (Songalia) or just plain soft (Blatche). I said it before and I will say it again what we need in this years draft is an athletic big guy with an NBA body.

Posted by: Dave, | April 23, 2008 10:17 AM

This just in:

NBA Championships - Washington 1 - Cleveland 0

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 10:37 AM

Please go here:

http://www.cleveland.com/forums/cavs/

This is your blog! You must have made a wrong turn somewhere. I'm just trying to be polite and helpful so you can get back to celebrating your wins with other Cleveland fans! Enjoy!

Posted by: CAVS FANS | April 23, 2008 10:58 AM

My bad, what is his excuse then for being a ridiculously biased blogger? If something you write has a name like the Washington Post tied to it, and is being read by the public, it should have some semblance of objectivity to it.

Can it be biased? sure. This guy takes it a whole different level, bordering on idiocy.

Posted by: Wood | April 23, 2008 9:42 AM

Wood,

The explicit purpose of this blog is to provide extra coverage of the home team. Its purpose is to provide biased coverage. I'm sure there are cavs blogs similar in nature, although I would never care enough to actually POST ON ONE!

Posted by: jones-y | April 23, 2008 11:34 AM

I never said Eddie Jordan was coach of the year and I never said he should be fired. My point was that not many coaches get to continue working after their team gives up mid way through a PLAYOFF game.

A reasonable argument can be made that the Wizards, as currently constituted, are never going to get past the second round of the playoffs without a change in style on both ends. It wasn't that long ago that Cleveland axed a good man, Paul Silas, for a coach who could bring them more IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Everyone says the Cavs got to the Finals because of Lebron, they ignore that the Cavs played the best team defense outside of the Spurs. Thats what they were missing down the stretch in the regular season.

The Wizards "countered" that by becoming very easy to guard, taking bad jump shots time after time. Now their D looks nearly as good as it did last year.

As to why Cavs fans are here, its the first round of a playoff series, this is their time to shine and talk.

Posted by: Monte | April 23, 2008 12:21 PM

why not "shine & talk" to each other? Im not saying a Cavs fan shouldn't be happy. I'm saying when the Wiz came back on Chicago I didn't go looking for Tribune blogs to brag and try to make people who cared feel bad. I felt good about it for myself, shared it with my friends n co-fans.
I'm saying that Cavs fans who are on here to talk trash are engaging in poor sportsmanship, and its pretty lame.
I won't make any disparaging generalizations about the character of Cleveland, because that's not the case. Its a few dummies who have to try to make other people feel bad to feel good.

Posted by: cavswhohauntwapoblogsux | April 23, 2008 1:46 PM

a few dummies........hmmm.....I believe it was your sorry TEAM who started the whole mess. I have never even read a blog until I heard about the smack Gilbert Arenas was running before the series....get your head out of the sand....its all on you guys....your team seeked attention before the series not you dont want it. I personally thought before all the Stevenson smack that the Wizards would take Cleveland out. Not anymore. Let them keep talking. Haywood is the one going too far now.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 3:00 PM

Cavs in 4, Wizards going back to the land of make believe.

Posted by: AdamBomb | April 23, 2008 5:05 PM

I'm a pathetic Cleveland Fan. Can I please post on your blog? It's the only we can feel good about ourselves and city. We get happy about small accomplishments such as a 2-0 series lead to over compensate for the fact that our pathetic city hasn't been able to win ANY sports Championships. I hope you understand. You will be seeing us around your blog a whole lot, we got 50 years to make up.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 23, 2008 11:11 PM

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