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Jamison Out, Friday Update

Antawn Jamison (sprained right shoulder) is out for tonight's game. It will be interesting to speak with him before the game and get a sense of how serious he thinks the injury will be. DeShawn Stevenson (ankle) was held out of shootaround but still hopes to play.

He's a game-time decision. If he can't go, it will be interesting to see whether Eddie Jordan goes with Gilbert Arenas as a starter or start Roger Mason Jr. or Nick Young. My guess is that they'll keep Arenas coming off the bench but we'll know more about that later when Jordan speaks before the game.

The Wiz can clinch a playoff berth with a win tonight or with a loss and wins by Milwaukee over Indiana AND Detroit over New Jersey.

By Ivan Carter  |  April 4, 2008; 1:26 PM ET
 
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This is a great game for Jamison to get some rest. God the Heat are terrible

Posted by: MDBaller1 | April 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Eddie better keep bringing Arenas off the bench. if he pulls that stuff he did with Arenas at the beginning of the season, and with Butler in that first Laker game, playing them 40 minutes when they're returning from injuries again.... I know the players tell him they're ready to go, but it's his job to monitor their minutes. Gil needs to stay at twenty minutes a game I'd say all the way up to, if not continued through the post season.

Posted by: ledell's place | April 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

If DS & AJ are out, that leaves 10 players, which the minutes should definitely be divided fairly evenly, considering AD & CB have logged heavy minutes. Use that bench in what I hope to be a game in cruise control (yeah, i know that's a possible jinx, but MDBaller, as well as everyone else here, had the same thoughts...)

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

God the Heat are terrible

Posted by: MDBaller1 | April 4, 2008 01:38 PM

Yeah, I said the same thing about Milwaulke. Daggar!

Posted by: Herb | April 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

re:DCMan88's last post on the last thread.

spot on, except for the fact that it's completely embellished and biased.

"It undoubtedly is fun to race up and down the court. With the Wizards, it is good for fortysomething wins a season. But in the playoffs, it is a style that leads to disappointment."

Umm, how many wins do the Wizards have this season without Arenas? How is this tough-guy, defensive-minded, conservative approach make the Wiz BETTER than the 40-something wins Arenas brings?

"Worse, Arenas contributed to the loss in a big way, with a mental error that defied explanation,"

Yea, except that Arenas' primary replacement was the one most at blame for the loss. If Arenas was the one who was outhustled and beaten downcourt for one of the easiest plays of the season, he would be crucified right now. Ignoring Daniels' lack of hustle and awareness on that last play is the epitome of how badly people want to blame Arenas for any Wizards shortcoming.

"Yet as soon as Arenas walked onto the floor, it was as if something clicked in the heads of the Wizards and they channeled the team that is always looking to outscore opponents."

As opposed to what, looking to be outscored? The goal of the basketball game is to outscore your opponent. This writer gets dumber and dumber by the minute.

"Everyone expects it, and Arenas does his best not to disappoint, even if it is counterproductive to the team's cause."

Somebody please quantify this statement to me. How is "Gilbert being Gilbert" counterproductive. Did Gilbert make BTH play like a statue? Did Gilbert make AD forget where he was on the court? Did Gilbert made AJ, DS, and CB get hurt in the final 10 seconds? I almost thought these other guys were professionals for a second. I didn't know that BTH gets so rattled by a minor "disruption." It's a good thing we've got such rock-solid, steady veterans on the court instead of mental marshmallows. I'll take the guy who stepped on the court for the first time in 6 months and hit 2 should-be decisive free throws to put us on top rather than a guy who can't play up to par because a teammate walked onto the court a couple minutes late.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 01:53 PM

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I truly wonder if Miami, right now, could beat North Carolina. That said, there is no such thing as a sure victory in the NBA, especially where the Wiz are concerned.

I'd be shocked if Eddie started Gil; he got winded pretty quickly Wednesday. He needs to come off the bench for the firepower he provides.

Posted by: Keithinator | April 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

By you and Kornheisers' definitiona, Kobe is also a diva. So is LeBron. So was Jordan. They all wanted to hog the spotlight. Phrases like 'hissy fit' are probably unwarranted. Frustration is more accurate, probably.
As far as defensive toughness, what exactly does that mean if your man is still scoring 20+ per game? Does it mean you're outweighed by 20 lbs each night yet still try to fight guys for position, etc. If that's it, then I'm on board. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you see CB as a much better defender than Gil. This game is all about numbers. If you you score more than your man, you win the matchup. If every guy on the team scores more than his opposit1e, the team wins. It's that simple. GA probably has a higher +/- point differential over the opposing position than any other guy on this team over the course of his career. We aren't getting killed at the PG position with GA in there.

I was one of the guys talking earlier this season about no one being a shutdown defender. BTH and DS actually play defense. Every other starter seems to look at it like it's a necessary evil. I just don't get how after one game back after a long layoff, ppl still look at GA and say he plays no defense. He didn't attack the rim either. Does that mean he's just a jump shooter? It's his first game back !!

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

When I said that if you outscore your opponent, you win I was assuming that you shoot a decent percentage. Obviously if youre 10-50 and your opponent is 9-10, that's not an effective night. GA shoots a decent %. I'd be interested to see what opposing PG's shot last year against GA.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

looks like 82games.com has the stats to backup the effectiveness of GA vs. his opponent.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Yea, except that Arenas' primary replacement was the one most at blame for the loss. If Arenas was the one who was outhustled and beaten downcourt for one of the easiest plays of the season, he would be crucified right now. Ignoring Daniels' lack of hustle and awareness on that last play is the epitome of how badly people want to blame Arenas for any Wizards shortcoming.
Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 01:59 PM
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Excellent point: Had Sessions beat Arenas to that ball, yep, you bet he would have taken a beating in the papers, even though it was a great hustle play by Sessions.

I even defended Daniels (minutes after the game ended) on the play, but understand he can't casually stroll on a crucial possession, but Daniels should have known his surroundings...

Let's get a win tonight, one at a time, then we'll think about tomorrow, then Wednesday...

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

BH, AB, DM, NY, RM (30-35 minutes each)

Dsong, AD and Pech the rest

Send EJ home for some relaxation.

Posted by: Izman | April 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"By you and Kornheisers' definitiona, Kobe is also a diva. So is LeBron. So was Jordan. They all wanted to hog the spotlight. Phrases like 'hissy fit' are probably unwarranted. Frustration is more accurate, probably.

As far as defensive toughness, what exactly does that mean if your man is still scoring 20+ per game? Does it mean you're outweighed by 20 lbs each night yet still try to fight guys for position, etc. If that's it, then I'm on board. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you see CB as a much better defender than Gil. This game is all about numbers.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 02:16 PM "

It's funny how all the people you mention have been to the finals and have won championships (minus Lebron). What has Gilby won to warrant a diva attitude?

How is it "frustration" when you refuse to shoot in a game because a teammate correctly called you a ballhog? When did MJ, Lebron, and Kobe take their sweet time coming out of the locker room so that they could soak in all the spotlight?

Caron is a physical defensive player and will get into the opponents face. The more physical you are, the more you make your opponent think twice about making a move. Gilby is a complete "olay" type of "defender." Hoping that the opponent misses the shot so he can run to the other end and get the easy basket.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

BH, AB, DM, NY, RM (30-35 minutes each)

Dsong, AD and Pech the rest

Send EJ home for some relaxation.

Posted by: Izman | April 4, 2008 02:42 PM
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No reason why Pesh and DM shouldn't play a minimum of 15 mins each, especially on the first leg of a back-to-back. Obviously Caron & Gilbert will be playing, no way they sit out unless their respective injuries flare up. We gotta be smart with the minutes tonight and get a nice margin of victory to rest Caron, DS, & AD...

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how all the people you mention have been to the finals and have won championships (minus Lebron). What has Gilby won to warrant a diva attitude?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 02:43 PM

You'll be very hard-pressed to find any superstar in this league that doesn't love the spotlight. Amare, Marion, Shaq, all these guys have the same ego and lust for fame, whether or not they've done anything warranted. Even tough-guy competitors Garnett and Kidd forced their way out of their teams because they didn't feel like their teammates were up to snuff (and subsequently sent their teams to the sh!thole without remorse). There are very few Tim Duncan's out there. You can only play with the hand you're dealt.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Funny . I knew you'd bring that up. Had these guys won championships by GA's age?
Also, does it matter how many times CB's opponent thinks before he drops a bucket in his face? CB plays the passing lanes a lot and that's how he gets steals. That also means you're gambling and not playing your man.
Most of Gilbert's baskets are not easy. He's not a cherry picker. How often do you see him shooting uncontested layups? That was simply inaccurate.
The other incident is chronicled thusly:
"It was at the end of his second season that he tried to prove a point to Jamison, who had complained about not getting the ball enough. Arenas refused to shoot for three quarters, then started shooting midway through the fourth quarter and quickly racked up 14 points."
At the end of his second season, GA has just turned 21. Nuff said. That's called immaturity. ...and it was 5 years ago in 2003.
BTW, did you miss the part about AJ complaining about not getting the ball enough? Does that make him a diva?

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you separate Agent Zero from Gilbert Arenas. We could all do without the persona that he's created but Gilbert Arenas is invaluable to this team.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

One comment about Arenas. I noticed, especially on Defense, that his lateral movement seemed VERY slow. I attribute that to the knee, and to the fact that he has not played almost all season. Let's face it, this is "pre-season" for Arenas.

The easiest part of the game for him is on the Offensive end (like Nick Young) - He still seems to be able to quickly get his shot off, but the knee may be hindering his lateral movement on Defense.

I for one, will be watching intently this evening to see if there is any improvement on D from Arenas.

Posted by: Rook | April 4, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Funny, I knew mark would dream up more excuses.

Lebron James is 3 years younger than Gilby, 2 fewer years of college, and went to the finals last year. The previous year, he beat Les BouleS in the playoffs 4-2 when Gilby missed the free throws. I think you probably forgot all that.

Kobe didnt' go to college either, but has evolved to become a complete player on both ends of the court and has been that way for a long time.

MJ had a few years of college, and easily became a complete player on both ends of the court too.

I wish people would stop making excuses for Gilby's lack of D. Sure, he's got a bum knee, but he never played D even when he was healthy.

Most of Gilby's shots are easy. Dribble down the court, and jack a shot up. Or, dribble to the basket, get fouled, and shoot free throws.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

On a side note, Byron Scott's team are most probably be the number 1 seed in the West. He should be the COTY. So maybe we should put away the notion that it was EJ that stirred the Nets to 2 NBA Finals appearance. EJ I think is just an average coach.

Posted by: COTY | April 4, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"You'll be very hard-pressed to find any superstar in this league that doesn't love the spotlight. Amare, Marion, Shaq, all these guys have the same ego and lust for fame, whether or not they've done anything warranted. Even tough-guy competitors Garnett and Kidd forced their way out of their teams because they didn't feel like their teammates were up to snuff (and subsequently sent their teams to the sh!thole without remorse). There are very few Tim Duncan's out there. You can only play with the hand you're dealt.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 02:54 PM "

You're being silly when you're trying to compare Gilby's diva behavior to anyone else.

KG toiled in Minn for most of his career and never demanded to be traded, nor did he talk about 32 configurations of shoes, run behind a parachute, etc. Also, KG plays both ends of the court.

Shaq has won multiple championships, and even calls Gilby a clown. He freely says Caron is the heart and soul of Les BouleS.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm not making excuses, just pointing out that you blame GA for not playing D when virtually no one on this team does yet they remain exempt from your criticism.
The question was: How many championships had they all won by the age of 26? Simple question. Not many if any.
So Shaq is the voice of reason in the league now? You defend Shaq calling someone else a clown? Are we talking about ' The Big Givemyselfaname'? The guy who used to breakdance on the court? SHAQ?!! You should be ashamed for even mentioning him for calling GA a clown.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that really knows this team knows that right now AJ is the heart and soul of this team. It's not CB and it's not GA. It's the captain. This may not have been the case in previous years but it's a fact now.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not making excuses, just pointing out that you blame GA for not playing D when virtually no one on this team does yet they remain exempt from your criticism.
The question was: How many championships had they all won by the age of 26? Simple question. Not many if any.
So Shaq is the voice of reason in the league now? You defend Shaq calling someone else a clown? Are we talking about ' The Big Givemyselfaname'? The guy who used to breakdance on the court? SHAQ?!! You should be ashamed for even mentioning him for calling GA a clown.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 03:21 PM "

Well, I guess you were sleeping when a lot of people chimed that Ayers has done a great job this year coaching the team up as the team has better chemistry and team defense.

You're backtracking now. Admit that you were wrong about Lebron. Dude is only 23 and has accomplished more than Gilby.

Shaq has how many rings? And Gilby has how many? c'mon mark, you're starting to look and sound foolish.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

And Mark - it's no use using logical arguments where Arenas is concerned. The guy will just keep dredging up old crap from years ago to try to make his tired old (and mostly incorrect) arguments hold water.

Everyone here, with the exception of 1 poster, knows that the Wizards are a better team with Arenas than without.

As for winning a Championship, I liked your argument. How many Superstar players HAVE won championships before they were 25? BUT, I think I prefer to ask how many players have won the Championship before they had been in the league 5 years. I know Wade did (with Shaq's help). Kobe (again with Shaq's help). Duncan.

The list is pretty slim. Jordan was in the league 6 years before he got his his first.

On the other hand, how many of the current Superstars have NOT won anything (yet)... McGrady, Nash, Lebron, Amare Stoudemire, Paul Pierce, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Dirk Nowitzki, Allen Iverson, Gilbert Arenas.... You could fill an All-Star roster for each Conference with a list of the guys that haven't won a Championship.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

KG forced himself out of Minn (even his former owner accused him of tanking it), Shaq couldn't co-exist with Kobe, Marion couldn't co-exist with Amare, Kidd forced himself out of NJ, Pierce tanked it with Boston, etc. There are a million examples (exaggerating). Everything has to be exactly the way these guys want it, or they want out. Just because they aren't as eccentric or as strange as Gilbert doesn't make them any less "diva-ish". As long as Gilbert's on-court product doesn't suffer, I don't care what he does off of it. And as of right now, I don't see any locker room problems. Particularly, the Big 3 get along more than fine. Let Gil take care of his own business, let the other guys on the team take care of their own, and the Wiz will be fine.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone that really knows this team knows that right now AJ is the heart and soul of this team. It's not CB and it's not GA. It's the captain. This may not have been the case in previous years but it's a fact now.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 03:23 PM "

Since when? This is tough juice's team, whether you like it or not.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

With Jamison out, Arenas will play 35+ minutes. Eddie Jordan is nothing if not consistent on this point.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Lebron James is 3 years younger than Gilby, 2 fewer years of college, and went to the finals last year. The previous year, he beat Les BouleS in the playoffs 4-2 when Gilby missed the free throws. I think you probably forgot all that.

Kobe didnt' go to college either, but has evolved to become a complete player on both ends of the court and has been that way for a long time.

MJ had a few years of college, and easily became a complete player on both ends of the court too.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 03:13 PM

Boy, for someone that hates Arenas, you sure are comparing him to some of the ABSOLUTE BEST players that ever played the game!!!

Do we really have to hold Arenas to that high a standard. He has to be as good as Jordan? He has to win a Championship before he's 25? He has to be the best player in the League? - before you give him any props?

How about we just say that Arenas is a very good player. One that (like almost every other player in the league) needs good players around him to succeed.

Jordan could carry a team. LeBron can carry a mediocre team to the finals (AND LOSE!!!). Kobe is acknowledged by many as the best player in the League.

Do you really want to be making those comparisons ?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"And as of right now, I don't see any locker room problems. Particularly, the Big 3 get along more than fine. Let Gil take care of his own business, let the other guys on the team take care of their own, and the Wiz will be fine.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 03:30 PM "

Yeah, except for BTH who's open enough to admit that he's tired of Gilby's drama and ready to get back to business. I'm sure most of the players will be glad when Gilby walks this summer.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I shot water out of my nose at a reference to what Shaq thinks of the Wiz. That's the funniest thing I've read in weeks. If Shaq thinks Gil's a clown, well then it must be true!

AJ could use a couple of days of rest. I hope DS starts but sits at the first break in play. Lots of minutes for Young and Mason, and a good 20 for Gil. I hope we'll see lots of DM and not too much of Caron.

Posted by: Lou | April 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, except for BTH who's open enough to admit that he's tired of Gilby's drama and ready to get back to business. I'm sure most of the players will be glad when Gilby walks this summer.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 03:34 PM

Where did you read that quote?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"Boy, for someone that hates Arenas, you sure are comparing him to some of the ABSOLUTE BEST players that ever played the game!!!

Do we really have to hold Arenas to that high a standard. He has to be as good as Jordan? He has to win a Championship before he's 25? He has to be the best player in the League? - before you give him any props?

How about we just say that Arenas is a very good player. One that (like almost every other player in the league) needs good players around him to succeed.

Jordan could carry a team. LeBron can carry a mediocre team to the finals (AND LOSE!!!). Kobe is acknowledged by many as the best player in the League.

Do you really want to be making those comparisons ?

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:34 PM "

Please reread the previous posts. It 'twas mark who brought those players up for comparison.


"y you and Kornheisers' definitiona, Kobe is also a diva. So is LeBron. So was Jordan. They all wanted to hog the spotlight.

Posted by: mark | April 4, 2008 02:16 PM "

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

""He made his grand entrance and he had his time," center Brendan Haywood said. "Now it's time to get back to business.""

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040304343.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

"For me, it was all about marketing myself, marketing the Shaquille brand," O'Neal said. "That's just how I am. I've always been a class clown, always been silly."

How come 88'er doesn't come down on the Big Diesel? He's a distraction!?!?! Trade him for Sun Ming Ming...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Arenas had to deal with Haywood's drama for years. Baby Brendan can get over himself.

Posted by: Dude | April 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"He made his grand entrance and he had his time," center Brendan Haywood said. "Now it's time to get back to business.""

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040304343.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 03:39 PM

And from that quote, you read that Haywood is "tired of Gilby's drama" ???!?!?

Wow. Someone needs comprehension 101.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Mark's right on about AJ being the heart and soul of this team. Who carried them when CB3 was hurt for 20+ games and kept us in the 5th seed? CB3 has not gotten his rhythm back since he coming back three weeks ago and is clearly not 100%. AJ is the team's captain, leader, and most-respected player. He may not be as talented as GA and CB3, but he's a rock who is consistently productive and helps the team even if his shot is off.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"I shot water out of my nose at a reference to what Shaq thinks of the Wiz. That's the funniest thing I've read in weeks. If Shaq thinks Gil's a clown, well then it must be true!

AJ could use a couple of days of rest. I hope DS starts but sits at the first break in play. Lots of minutes for Young and Mason, and a good 20 for Gil. I hope we'll see lots of DM and not too much of Caron.

Posted by: Lou | April 4, 2008 03:35 PM "

If Shaq Diesel, the biggest clown of all, thinks of someone else as a clown, then that's pretty bad....really bad!!!

What Shaq did say is that he thinks Caron's the heart and soul of this team. That's a great compliment when you have the respect of Shaq.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"Mark's right on about AJ being the heart and soul of this team. Who carried them when CB3 was hurt for 20+ games and kept us in the 5th seed? CB3 has not gotten his rhythm back since he coming back three weeks ago and is clearly not 100%. AJ is the team's captain, leader, and most-respected player. He may not be as talented as GA and CB3, but he's a rock who is consistently productive and helps the team even if his shot is off.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 4, 2008 03:42 PM "

Yeah, ok...the team dipped below .500 when Caron was out. Of course you don't remember that.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"And from that quote, you read that Haywood is "tired of Gilby's drama" ???!?!?

Wow. Someone needs comprehension 101.

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:42 PM "

That be you. Most other players on this team would just say "that's gil being gil."

BTH seems ready to move on from all the unnecessary drama, as do probably most of the team.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

BTH is also the guy that got into a fistfight with Etan Thomas, and was having a feud with Eddie Jordan. I'm not sure if he's the most credible judge of character and team chemistry. And if I have to choose between BTH and Arenas, excuse me for taking sides with the three time all-star.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"He made his grand entrance and he had his time," center Brendan Haywood said. "Now it's time to get back to business.""

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040304343.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 03:39 PM

Wow. I read that statement completely different. I took that as Haywood saying now that Arenas has made his much ballyhoo'ed comeback, the team can get back to trying to win basketball games.

I certainly didn't read anything that implied that Haywood was "tired" of Gilbert's "drama".

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet 7,000 that Haywood didn't really intend for anyone to think he was "tired of Gilby's drama".

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"How come 88'er doesn't come down on the Big Diesel? He's a distraction!?!?! Trade him for Sun Ming Ming...

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:40 PM "

Oh wait, does Shaq play for Les BouleS? Does Shaq play for a local team?

uhhh, no...duh!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"He made his grand entrance and he had his time," center Brendan Haywood said. "Now it's time to get back to business.""

Ivan, can you get a clarification from Bendan? Was he really trying to disrespect Gilbert Arenas?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"I'll bet 7,000 that Haywood didn't really intend for anyone to think he was "tired of Gilby's drama".

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:46 PM "

I'll bet $7k that your mom's cr$tch stinks.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet $7k ....

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 03:47 PM

A little touchy on the subject?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"I'll bet 7,000 that Haywood didn't really intend for anyone to think he was "tired of Gilby's drama".

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:46 PM "

I'll bet $7k that your mom's cr$tch stinks.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 03:47 PM


Crutch? A walking crutch?

Posted by: Scrabble Champeeeen | April 4, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"BTH is also the guy that got into a fistfight with Etan Thomas, and was having a feud with Eddie Jordan. I'm not sure if he's the most credible judge of character and team chemistry. And if I have to choose between BTH and Arenas, excuse me for taking sides with the three time all-star.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 03:45 PM "

BTH was supposed to be gone last offseason, but EG kept him. What has BTH done? He's averaging a 10-7, and his FT% is up big. Solid for a guy who hardly gets any touches, and has given up PT to AB.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Crutch? A walking crutch?

Posted by: Scrabble Champeeeen | April 4, 2008 03:50 PM "

C'mon silly....replace $ with an "o" Naive bumpkin!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I didn't elaborate. He wouldn't be a hypocrite for his poor play in the last game. If that quote was directed at Gilbert I would assume that Haywood was annoyed at Gilbert being a distraction. Haywood was the biggest distraction the Wizards had in the previous couple seasons because of his sulking and his fist fights with Etan. He has no moral high ground to complain about other teammates. I don't think his situation with Etan and Eddie were completely his fault, but I'm sure there were plenty of times he could have gotten back to business and didn't.

Posted by: Dude | April 4, 2008 02:48 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"A little touchy on the subject?

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:50 PM "

Feel bad for me. I found out without warning! STINKY!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Alright, went from bad to worse, why deviate from the subject and start talking about people's "mama?"
Might as well just admit defeat on the subject or keep quiet, instead of going personal.

Anywho, a couple of wins this weekend is a must, given the teams, and the tough schedule next week. Being 3 games over .500 would give some buffer, hopefullly 'Twan will be back by Weds, since he'll have a week to rest. EG said on the WTEM yesterday that he doesn't believe it's a serious shoulder injury since the x-ray & MRI came back negative. As long as it wasn't diagnosed by Dr. Connell, right??? {{{{nervous chuckle}}}}

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"Sorry I didn't elaborate. He wouldn't be a hypocrite for his poor play in the last game. If that quote was directed at Gilbert I would assume that Haywood was annoyed at Gilbert being a distraction. Haywood was the biggest distraction the Wizards had in the previous couple seasons because of his sulking and his fist fights with Etan. He has no moral high ground to complain about other teammates. I don't think his situation with Etan and Eddie were completely his fault, but I'm sure there were plenty of times he could have gotten back to business and didn't.

Posted by: Dude | April 4, 2008 02:48 PM

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:53 PM "

Players take it into their own hands when there's silence form management.

Same example applies when the refs get tough on hard fouls. If they continue to let people foul, then a fight will break out.

EG made a management decision to keep BTH, over EJ's objections, and then brought in a 2 defensive coaches to coach the team up. Not exactly a vote of confidence for the wannabe COTY.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Okay, but Haywood would still be a huge hypocrite if that quote was aimed at Gilbert.

Posted by: Dude | April 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

BTW, as I said earlier, it was clear to me that BTH was assigned to help Gilby double up on his man whenever Gilby's man made a move. That's a main reason why Bogut was open for a lot of shots, with BTH running back and forth.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"Okay, but Haywood would still be a huge hypocrite if that quote was aimed at Gilbert.

Posted by: Dude | April 4, 2008 04:00 PM "

Look at it this way.

BTH's feud with Etan was festering and boiled over due to lack of management not only not doing their jobs, but causing some of it too. Obviously it was a distraction.

Gilby's drama is based on him creating a whirlwind of drama around himself. Lying to reporters like Ivan and Wise, but then playing. Making a delayed entrance to the game causing a distraction. Talking about taking less money for AJ's benefit. Talking about driving off the GW parkway and hitting a tree/suicide, etc, etc....

There's a world of difference there, whether you see it or not.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"Alright, went from bad to worse, why deviate from the subject and start talking about people's "mama?"
Might as well just admit defeat on the subject or keep quiet, instead of going personal.

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 03:54 PM "

You clearly missed the initial jab at me with the "$7000 bet." I don't get personal unless people get personal, and in this case, make stuff up that never happened.

"I'll bet 7,000 that Haywood didn't really intend for anyone to think he was "tired of Gilby's drama".

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:46 PM "

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough, you are certinly entitled to your opinion about Arenas and Haywood. Like I said, I don't think Haywood was totally at fault, but I have to believe that there were chances for him to "get back to business" and he chose not to.

Posted by: Dude | April 4, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

You clearly missed the initial jab at me with the "$7000 bet." I don't get personal unless people get personal, and in this case, make stuff up that never happened.


"I'll bet 7,000 that Haywood didn't really intend for anyone to think he was "tired of Gilby's drama".

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 03:46 PM "

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 04:07 PM
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No need to go all Chris Henry on the poster though.

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Working for the Wizards, I can tell you that the players are glad he's back. We need healthy bodies, and this is a great sign. I'm pretty confident Brendan meant nothing about his comments. But the team is all business from here on out.

Posted by: Wiz Nation | April 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Let's just hope the team is all business, and with regard to BTH, he can interpret his own words.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Gilby's drama is based on him creating a whirlwind of drama around himself. Lying to reporters like Ivan and Wise, but then playing. Making a delayed entrance to the game causing a distraction. Talking about taking less money for AJ's benefit. Talking about driving off the GW parkway and hitting a tree/suicide, etc, etc....

There's a world of difference there, whether you see it or not.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 04:04 PM

I honestly do not see how any of that should affect the way BTH or any other Wizard plays on gameday. Arenas creates drama to the media, the media then flocks to Arenas, and it goes back and forth. And he only talks about himself, therefore very little of it gets transferred to the other guys in the locker room. When Arenas isn't in the news, it's like the Wizards aren't even in the NBA. The ONLY person that should be affected by the "drama" is Arenas. If Arenas' on-court performance suffered because of those distractions, then I would criticize Gilbert for them. But they don't. If anything, Gil thrives in the spotlight.

Haywood's distractions, on the other hand, were complete locker room disruptions. The coach wass affected by it, his teammate (etan) was affected by it, and the rest of the team was put in the awkward position of either picking sides, or trying to get the two to reconcile. EVERYBODY was affected in that sense.

Like you said, there's a world of difference between those two.

Posted by: psps23 | April 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Geez....why, why, why do you all insist on reading the IDIOTS posts and trying to argue with him? He's like a child having a temper tantrum and responding to him just encourages him more. This entire thread is all DCJerk (but what else is new - all he does is blog all day and night) and you all arguing with him.

Just skip his posts and focus on basketball.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

This blog is so informative.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

and with regard to BTH, he can interpret his own words.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 04:18 PM

okay so heed your own advice.

Posted by: jones-y | April 4, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

...85,86,87,89,90...

Posted by: BmoreRev | April 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

DC Mandible wrote: Most of Gilby's shots are easy. Dribble down the court, and jack a shot up. Or, dribble to the basket, get fouled, and shoot free throws.
-------------------------------------

So you think hitting NBA three-pointers off the dribble is easy? You should challenge GA to a contest, like the one he had with DS on YouTube. Maybe he'll even agree to shoot them one-handed to give you more of a chance.

As for the ease of driving to the basket and drawing a foul in the NBA, it's easy only if you're LeBron James, who is so big and powerful that defenders often get the worst of the contact. In contrast, less physically-imposing perimeter players--not just Arenas, but Daniels and Stevenson as well--run the risk of getting body-slammed into the hardwood by one of the other team's big men. I'd like to see you do that even once and walk normally afterward, let alone make two free throws. That's why NBA players get paid so much.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Watching WaPo live... Crap, it was DS' b-day party last night, you know what that means... Operation Let-down. How can he throw himself a b-day party w/ a busted ankle??

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"Most of Gilby's shots are easy. Dribble down the court, and jack a shot up. Or, dribble to the basket, get fouled, and shoot free throws."

If getting to the line is so easy, how come Arenas was one of only three players in the NBA to get to the line more than nine and a half times per game last season? If it's so easy, why doesn't everybody do it?

Posted by: kalorama | April 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Can we get an update on Etan Thomas please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Justin | April 4, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

For the love of god, STOP FEEDING THE TROLL. He will not be persuaded, he simply exists to feed off your rage. Just ignore him!

Posted by: Crunkenstein | April 4, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BmoreRev | April 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words: the team will lose if Gilby plays more than 10 minutes.

Mark my words.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Your words marked...and they have been x'd out...man gilby has the highest points differential on the team...

Posted by: Terpin It | April 4, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Ivan, what is Suge Knight doing at the VC...????

Posted by: Sam | April 4, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I think the Wizards will blow the 20 pt lead. Seriously.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

And I think your smoking that la la la la...this is the NBDL all stars thats out here...

Posted by: Terpin It | April 4, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Gil's missing layups and shooting air balls. Hibachi's cooling off. Lead being threatened.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

The subbing patterns are maddening, Young, Mason, Pesh, all have less than 5 mins through the end of 3 quarters. Caron has played over 32 mins through the end of 3Q. There's a big game at Chicago too.

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

DMAC has less than 5 mins too... to top it off the Heat has hit 3 consecutive threes to cut it to 10 pts...

Posted by: CN | April 4, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I thought that was Suge Knight!

Posted by: Smith | April 4, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Suge is at VC to collect child support from Gil.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Where is the D...we are playing D-leaguers!!! What the F? At least contest the perimeter shots!

Posted by: D | April 4, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the perimeter defense? 16 3's by Miami with 7 min left in the 4th quarter.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

With any team, if u depend on the three,you die with the three...which is what we are seeing right now...

Posted by: Terpin It | April 4, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Miami is depending on the 3 because they have no inside game. The problem is that the Wizards are giving up 19 3's to the worst team in the league.

No excuse. Doesn't make sense. I thought DS was good on perimeter defense?!?!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words: the team will lose if Gilby plays more than 10 minutes.

Mark my words.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 08:18 PM

SUCH A IDIOT!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"SUCH A IDIOT!!!!!

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 10:21 PM "

Learn how to write a sentence.

"Such an idiot!!!"

BTW dunce, I didn't make that prediction. You probably did using my blog name.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Forgive me, I'm a fk'n Gilby lover troll. I don't know what got over me.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I think you mean "SUCH AN IDIOT!!!!!", not "SUCH A IDIOT!!!!" LOL!!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Can someone give me some crack?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Solid win without AJ. Love how EJ used Gilbert tonight. He came out to be the distributer and look at what we saw! EJ really wanted this one and never felt comfortable enough to empty the bench. Notice that he had Pecherov on side about to check in and then pulled him back as Heat creeped closer.

Blatche looks like he is getting it together.

As expected when Gil is on court the shots get easier. he commands attention. If he and the others stay committed to ball movement the sky is the limit.

EJ looks really sick. He ought to blow off the road trip and take the weekend off. Looked like he had no energy and was sucking on cough drops.

Still need to keep our eyes on 4th spot. Anything is possible.

Posted by: BmoreRev | April 4, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Talk about over analyzation by BmoreRev. This game was against the WORST TEAM IN THE NBA, and made worse by Marion being out for the season and JWill not being in the game.

This should have been a complete blowout, at home. Nobody should have given up 19 3 pointers! EJ should never have "felt uncomfortable!"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Arenas: 8 assists in 20 minutes... better than Calderon

Posted by: khrabb | April 4, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

"SUCH A IDIOT!!!!!

Posted by: | April 4, 2008 10:21 PM "

Learn how to write a sentence.

"Such an idiot!!!"

BTW dunce, I didn't make that prediction. You probably did using my blog name.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 4, 2008 10:25 PM

Pretty easy for you to say stuff, then claim it was not you.... We all know it was you.!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

It was me. Leave DC guy alone.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey anon 10:45, let me explain myself a bit... I do not think it is not overanalyzing things to watch how our team approaches the final games. Can they get and stay healthy? Can they make the transition to playing with Gil without giving up on the good habits that they had for most of the season? How will EJ adjust the rotations? Will Gil commit to defense or to drama? Any hope in the post season will hinge on how we make these adjustments. Doesn't matter if the game was against Heat or Spurs. If you look for certain things you can see the direction the team is going.

You are correct in that they need to tighten up their D. They have committed this year to defending the paint and have done good job while still protecting the line fairly well. But the protection of the 3 point line aspect of the defense has been deteriorating lately.

Most teams don't flip a switch come the playoffs and become something that they never were. They can become better at what they are. I am looking to see just what we are right now. I am not sure. That's why I am watching so closely right now. We are not what we were without Gil. We should be better. But it's not automatic.

Posted by: BmoreRev | April 5, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

The implication in that Knott article that Arenas is the primary culprit of their failing defense in the Milwaukee game is horse crap. I didn't see Arenas on the floor when they gave up 129 to the Jazz. Or 111 to the Lakers in regulation (before going to overtime and giving up 126 overall). Or when they gave up 102 to Portland. Or 105 to a mediocre Atlanta team. The defensive slippage far predates Arenas' return.

Posted by: kalorama | April 5, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Beautiful assists by Gil last night. Go Wizards!!!!!!!! In the playoffs again. Now lets make some noise. Maybe now they can rest Jamison for another game. God knows the dude needs it. A couple of plays last night are highlighted on ESPN's top ten. I will tell you one thing, they do have some exciting offensive plays with Gil in.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 5, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Kal, as you probably know, everything Knott writes is horse crap. He's the worst sportswriter/columnist I've ever read. Ever. As Bird would say, when it comes to crappy sports columnists, everyone's playing for second place.

As to the game last night, I was shocked at how many wide-open threes Miami got. I kept saying to the TV, "they have nothing inside. The three is all they can do. DEFEND IT!!!" They never did.

I take no solace in the win last night; in fact, just the opposite. Here's what opponents say about the Wiz: "Here's the book on this team. Just drive around the point guard, whether it's Arenas or Daniels. When you do that, every one of their players will sag into the middle; it doesn't matter which side of the floor they're on. They just drift inside and stay there. Then just kick it out for an easy, unchallenged, wide-open three." Works every time.

Posted by: Keithinator | April 5, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Wizards build a 16 point halftime lead; maintain a double digit lead throughout the entire second half; and cruise to a 14 point Win - solid win.

Now we need to kick Chicago in their Bulls.

Anyone notice that Gilbert Arenas looks angry (unhappy? mad? sullen?) sitting on the bench? Even in the game, rarely smiles? And that he's not talking to reporters? And that we've not seen a blog entry since he returned (very Un-Gil like)?

I think the speculation (on this blog, and other places - can he mesh? Will he be a ball hog/shoot first me me me player? Will he be the same Gil?) may have provided him with some fuel for his fire!

Posted by: Rook | April 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

1) Glad they got the win, but allowing that 3-point barrage was inexcusable. If I were EJ, I would have put McGuire on Ricky Davis with instructions to face-guard him and force him to get his shots off the dribble. He's a 40 percent 3-point shooter, especially if you allow him room to get off his shot, but he makes a lot of bad decisions when he's on the move. As for Quinn, you can't really put that on Gilbert or Antonio because DS was on him most of the night. I notice he was playing about two-three feet off him most of the night and was slow closing out, probably because of the ankle.

I really like what we saw from GA last night. He had some fantastic dishes, especially that no-look alley oop to NY and that one-handed pass off the dribble to Blatche for a layup. There's no reason that he couldn't average 8-10 assists over a full season, if he set his mind to it. The defense...well, that's still a work on progress.

Posted by: John Brisker | April 5, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

The Bulls are another dangerous team if/once they start getting their threes. With all the Wizards who are hurt and are at 3/4 speed if that, I am not sure defense will hold.

Nevertheless:

Go Wizards!!! This is my town and this is my team, win or lose!

Posted by: rgz | April 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

This is my town and this is my team, win or lose!

Posted by: rgz | April 5, 2008 11:55 AM

Amen, rgz..!!!

Posted by: Rook | April 5, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Saw Gilbert and Brendan sitting by each other last night talking and smiling and looking like everything was cool. Gil looked good last nite.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 5, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I would have put McGuire on Ricky Davis with instructions to face-guard him and force him to get his shots off the dribble.

John, I agree 100 percent. If you're committed to it, you can cool off a hot shooter. Last night, the Wiz were content to just let him stay "en fuego." Why? Your guess is as good as mine.

Posted by: Keithinator | April 5, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Contain Larry Hughes.

Posted by: khrabb | April 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Saw Gilbert and Brendan sitting by each other last night talking and smiling and looking like everything was cool. Gil looked good last nite.

Posted by: | April 5, 2008 12:13 PM

So much for Haywood being "tired of Gilby's drama"

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Posted by: John Brisker | April 5, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I saw Gil and Haywood sitting next to each other and they were arguing.

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