Jordan responds

Throughout the series, Cleveland Coach Mike Brown has been harping on the perceived brutality the Wizards are using on LeBron James in his chats with the media. It really got good Sunday when Brown hammered his fist on a table three times to make his point.

Also, Brown has come out onto the court several times to plead his case with refs.

Today, Wizards Coach Eddie Jordan, who has not mentioned the referees so far, finally responded and he pointed out, correctly, that many of the hard fouls in this series have actually come from the Cavs in this series.

In Game 1, James responded to a hard foul from Andray Blatche by blasting Blatche in the face with a forearm and in Game 2, Devin Brown took Roger Mason Jr. down hard on a breakaway layup, Anderson Varejao cracked Blatche in the face as Blatche went up for a layup and Delonte West laid a hard foul on Antonio Daniels as Daniels went to the hoop.
Varejao received a flagrant 1 for his hit on Blatche but none of those plays created the perception that the Cavs are somehow playing dirty.

Eddie Jordan: "Well, if they are like the fouls they gave on us, you have to at least act like you are going for the ball and you can throw your body at anybody you like. Just watching the fouls they gave on us, it was you know, pretend you are going for the ball and throw your body at the guy. So, that's a good technique."

Yesterday, Haywood had a good line about Brown's dramatic reaction to any contact on James. "Every time, LeBron gets fouled, Mike comes running out there like he got shot or something. Calm down Mike. It's not that serious. We're not trying to take him out. It's all within the confines of the game. I don't see how coaches should be running out on the court anyway. Isn't there a coaches' box? Since we're talking about the confines of league rules, he shouldn't be out of the box."

Today, Haywood was asked about it all again.

On the flagant 2 foul and ejection he was hit with for fouling James in Game 2: "If that's Delonte West I fouled like that, do they throw me out? Probably not."

On Brown's reactions: "C'mon Mike. That man's name is LeBron James not LeBron Brown. He' s not your son.

By Ivan Carter |  April 23, 2008; 1:30 PM ET
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I'd like to see the ref who makes the techincal foul call on Mike Brown for running out on the court to check on LeTravel.

Posted by: Adam | April 23, 2008 2:04 PM

Eddie Jordan: "Well, if they are like the fouls they gave on us, you have to at least act like you are going for the ball and you can throw your body at anybody you like. Just watching the fouls they gave on us, it was you know, pretend you are going for the ball and throw your body at the guy. So, that's a good technique."

It's a great technique. If you want proof, watch the Jazz/Rockets series. That's exactly what the Jazz players do, and there's no controversy or outrage because everyone understands that (A) it's part of the game and (B) it's part of how the Jazz play. The opposing coaches, players, and refs expect it and respond accordingly. The Wizards are trying to do something they don't normally do and aren't very good at, and the results are what you'd expect.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2008 2:12 PM

I am NOT a wussie crybaby! Wah-Wah-Wah!

Posted by: Mike Brown | April 23, 2008 2:12 PM

As I said, Cavs gave out hard fouls "quietly." The problem with Wizs is that they like to run their mouths and advertised it to the whole world.

Posted by: Sagaliba | April 23, 2008 2:21 PM

I love Haywood and his commentary on various things. He doesn't talk much but if you ask him a question, be prepared for his response because he puts it out there, no holds barred. I also thought the aftergame interviews with Lebron and Brown were overdone. They went on and on about how Lebron's life flashed before his eyes when Haywood hit him.Yada Yada Yada. They milked it for all it was worth. Made me so mad, I couldn't even watch. Cleveland is for Wusssies.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 2:26 PM

Didn't Letravel call for Mike Brown's job a year or two ago? I bet they have the greatest superficial relationship ever...reminds me of E. Jordan and Gilbert, minus Brown's composure issues.

Either way, Mike Brown looks like a big old mama runnin' out to save her son...BTH was totally on point with that one.

"I don't even know who Damon Jones is..."

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | April 23, 2008 2:28 PM

Again, I am surprised by how naive this blogger and these fans are to playoff basketball. Didn't anyone pay attention to Phil Jackson and Pat Riley over the last 20 plus years? Ever watch a whole game or just ESPN highlights? You start working the refs as soon as you get off the bus. All of this whining shows a lack of experience in gamesmanship. It's about winning.

I'm glad Brown finally understands what the playoffs are about. This is the first time I have been happy about the job he is doing. X's and O's are only part of playoffs. It's about getting an edge where ever you can. Look back at the NBA champs over the last 20 years, you see lots of this stuff. Even the Spurs, Tim Duncan works the refs like no one else in the league.

Posted by: Dunbar | April 23, 2008 2:47 PM

Damon Jones is the guard who shot that 3 pointer in your mug to push the lead to 30 points the other night.....by the way....you dont know who Damon Jones is...who the hell is DaShawn Stevenson? LeSweep...........

Oh and another things, you guys are right. LeBron does suck and is overrated. If he would only hit his free throws....man......The Cavs would have won by 45 instead of 30.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 2:47 PM

Again...NBA Championships - Washington 1, Cleveland 0.

My sign for Thursdays game will read: LeBron - Hoppin', Skippin', and Jumpin' to the basket.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 2:51 PM

Haha Haywood is hilarious. Not only is he right, but he's pretty funny...

Posted by: Krem | April 23, 2008 2:57 PM

for his issues. I understand trying to get an edge wherever you can, but you can't have it both ways. You can't condone your team fouling just as hard as the opponent and then whine because your meal ticket is getting hit. It makes you look like a hypocrite and baby.

Posted by: Mike Brown needs a tissue | April 23, 2008 2:58 PM

at least i dont have to live in cleveland

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 3:00 PM

I see its not just you fans who are idiots its most of your sports writers too. Brendan Haystack extended his arms and tried to hurt someone. He should have been suspended. I don't care who it was he took the cheap shot at. He should be gone.

Posted by: Wiz Hater | April 23, 2008 3:02 PM

It's about time EJ comes out and criticizes someone. I'd like him to come out more and criticize the refs or his own players. Players sometimes need a little criticism to get going. He should come out and fire up Gil, Caron, and AJ. Game 3 is a must win.

Posted by: disremembered | April 23, 2008 3:03 PM

We own you is the bottom line. SCOREBOARD ya cheap shot artist.

Posted by: Wiz Hater | April 23, 2008 3:04 PM

Who EJ should criticize is himself for that stupid game plan of hack a Bron. Criticize his team for getting embarrassed like they did while doing all that talking. Had nothing to do with the refs you idiots. They came out to foul and the fouls got called. Here's a suggestion: how about coming to play basketball instead of WWE. You may even win a game that way. What a bunch of buffoons crying over foul calls when the plan was to come in and foul. Again...SCOREBOARD!

Posted by: Wiz Hater | April 23, 2008 3:08 PM

lol ... cleveland fans are so pathetic - does the sports landscape in cleveland suck so bad that you can't find your own blogs? Or did you all move to DC because you couldn't stand living in your crap town? - seriously, what are you doing here -- go back to the rest of the bandwagoners in toledo and pat yourselves on the back ...

Posted by: terpintime | April 23, 2008 3:09 PM

Brendan makes some interesting points. And whoever said the Wiz advertised too much about how they were going treat LeBron is exactly right because the refs read the newspapers, too....that's why they have a subconscious bias against the Wiz right now. The Wiz talk too much about LeBron, just like I'm doing right now. The Wiz need to keep quiet about it, but it may be too late anyway.

Posted by: low | April 23, 2008 3:09 PM

Get focused, guys. There are more important issues to focus upon. And it's not, we have to shoot better, we have to run faster, etc. It's: "what exactly are the defensive and offensive schemes, and how are we going to execute them?"

BTW, we've now run out time to get CB healed, so he's got to go full bore with the best of what he's got left. However, the shooters need legs at the end of game, so no more than 40 minutes each and at least 2-3 minutes off at the beginning of the 4th period.

The pressure is on. Who will respond? Who will take a powder?

Posted by: Izman | April 23, 2008 3:10 PM

Honestly, is there really confusion between what Varejao did and Haywood? If Haywood had went for the ball and knocked Lebron into the third row, good for him. That is not a dirty play, that is a hard foul. But flat-out pushing him in the air is a 'non-basketball move' which is the definition of flagrant 2.

That is why Varejao play was not dirty. He went for the ball and nearly took the guys head off. Both calls were correct flagrant 1 on Varejao. But I will say that he has to be careful, I don't think he can keep doing that without drawing a harsher penalty.

And I didn't think Haywood should have been suspended, that would have been too much. I hope the rest of the series is clean, but hard for both sides. I would guess most of this is behind us.

Posted by: Dunbar | April 23, 2008 3:13 PM

lol lol.. a subconscious bias against the wiz right now? spare me the BS. those dudes were not there to play basketball and you know it. explain that arse whipping if they were. how do you lose by 30 if you really came to play. SCOREBOARD!

Posted by: Wiz Hater | April 23, 2008 3:15 PM

Please keep talking Deshaun. Please attend the game Souja Boy so LBJ can get that quick 50 on your arses.

Posted by: Wiz Hater | April 23, 2008 3:18 PM

keep talking, keep making excuses, keep thinking its everyone and everything but yourselves so we can walk through this round just like last year.....seriously, thank you

Posted by: cleveland | April 23, 2008 3:22 PM

Of course Mike Brown freaks out every time LeBron gets fouled. If the refs don't do anything about running onto the court, why should he stop? Not to mention the only reason Brown hasn't been canned as head coach yet is because LeBron is such a great player.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 3:30 PM

I said this on an earlier board for a previous article. There are Cleveland trolling these boards because their own are dead. I checked on a few of them at the end of the regular season to see what people were saying over there about the matchup with the wiz, the philly game, etc. There were about 5 posts per article. Pathetic. I'm sure there's more activity now that we're in the playoffs but it just doesn't compare with the level of passion and interest in DC basketball.

Posted by: rob g in annapolis | April 23, 2008 3:33 PM

Stop calling me a cry baby!!!!

Posted by: LeBron | April 23, 2008 3:33 PM

No wonder you guys can't win a game. All you do is worry about the other team instead of yourselves. Get ready for the Cavs to wear maids uniforms instead of jerseys so they can help you pack your bags for the 3rd straight year.

Posted by: Wizzzzzard! | April 23, 2008 3:34 PM

I said this on an earlier board for a previous article. There are Cleveland trolling these boards because their own are dead. I checked on a few of them at the end of the regular season to see what people were saying over there about the matchup with the wiz, the philly game, etc. There were about 5 posts per article. Pathetic. I'm sure there's more activity now that we're in the playoffs but it just doesn't compare with the level of passion and interest in DC basketball.

Posted by: rob g in annapolis | April 23, 2008 3:33 PM

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There is that and also that 90% of people in Cleveland are illiterate.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 3:37 PM

Most of the posts are on ohio.com under Brian Windhorst's blog (which is a great read, by the way, he is a balanced writer). I wouldn't use number of posts to measure fan interest, did you hear how loud it was at the Q?

Posted by: Dunbar | April 23, 2008 3:37 PM

Wiz should take a look at what the Spurs did to the Cavs last year. As Robert Horry said, "LeBron is the head of the snake, and we need to cut that head off." Spurs forced LeBron to the sidelines outside the lane and made him a jump shooter. ESPN last year said, "The Spurs made him shoot midrange jumpers and contested 3-pointers. They bodied him coming off screens and harassed him into bunches of turnovers. They kept him from the rim, allowing just two dunks in the four games." Problem is, the Wiz don't have the Spurs team defense. But at least doing a better job of cutting off the lane and making him shoot his jumpers will help.

Posted by: T-Train | April 23, 2008 3:37 PM

Izman, my concern is that CB is NOT injured. He really doesn't appear to be hindered in any way physically. When he put his head down and drove, he was able to go around wally like Wally was standing still. This scares me. If he has been neutralized in some way, we're going to be in some trouble. Right now we have him and AJ on offense and to rely on and that's pretty much it. Anything Gil gives us is gravy.

Posted by: mark | April 23, 2008 3:37 PM

Wiz Hater -- "Who EJ should criticize is himself for that stupid game plan of hack a Bron. Criticize his team for getting embarrassed like they did while doing all that talking. Had nothing to do with the refs you idiots. They came out to foul and the fouls got called. Here's a suggestion: how about coming to play basketball instead of WWE. You may even win a game that way. What a bunch of buffoons crying over foul calls when the plan was to come in and foul. Again...SCOREBOARD!"

Who is crying about called fouls? Who's talking all that trash? It seems that it's Mike Brown crying over the hard fouls that the Princess takes while ignoring his own players fouls (which any coach should/would do). He should stay off the court and let LeWuss coach and play -- it would be the same team. Secondly, it seems that the Cavs are doing much more boasting than the Wiz, and all they did was what they were supposed to do. They won the first two games on their home court. Nothing more. All they did with the trash talk at the end of game two was celebrate a little too much.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 3:37 PM

"I can't feel my face because my team is being blown out"

Posted by: Deshaun Stevenson | April 23, 2008 3:43 PM

If Cavs get by Wiz and make it to the finals, I'd love to see them get swept by the Spurs again, and see signs that say, "LeBroom!" Haha...

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Posted by: LeSweep!!! | April 23, 2008 3:47 PM

Deal with the reality of the situation:

your season was over the minute you drew Cleveland in the first round.

Deal with it. Stop whining. Stop complaining. Stop pointing fingers. Stop trying to blame everyone else for your own failures. Accept.

Posted by: oooooo | April 23, 2008 3:47 PM

haha you guys suck

Posted by: me | April 23, 2008 3:51 PM

Lebron is over-rated just like Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson aint that right Washington?? ...LOL....Make sure you wear white cuz that scares over-rated players...LMAO. YOU SHOULDN'T WEAR WHITE BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY....You guys really are rewriting the rules. SWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPP

Posted by: DeShaun Stevenson | April 23, 2008 3:51 PM

"the dumbest team in the history of civilization"

That pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: Barkley | April 23, 2008 3:53 PM

Does Mr. Jordan remember in 2006 game six when he crossed the half court line?! hmmm? nope? thats what i thought. That was a technical foul. Not Mike walking to the reff. Cavs will sweep!

Posted by: SWEEP | April 23, 2008 3:55 PM

The number of Cleveland fans posting here is laughable.

BTH is a funny dude. I met him once and was kind of surprised by his sense of humor.

I'm an EJ fan, but I was starting to worry about his silence concerning the officiating. I hope we see a more refined approach in game 3--we've bombed games all season only to come back and play great ball. I hope to see some of that on Thursday and Sunday. It's not a series until you lose at home...

Posted by: Lou | April 23, 2008 3:56 PM

Jay-z is over-rated!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Soulja Boy | April 23, 2008 3:56 PM

Don't mess with the Cleveland fans. I'm all they got in this city!

Posted by: Drew Carey | April 23, 2008 3:57 PM

Yeah, maybe if the Wizards try REALLY hard they can lose by 20 this time instead of 30.

Posted by: sweep | April 23, 2008 3:59 PM

Come on guys, stop complaining about everything but our pathetic play. Take some blame and focus on playing basketball, not whining all day long!

Posted by: NYC Wiz Fan | April 23, 2008 4:00 PM

"But at least doing a better job of cutting off the lane and making him shoot his jumpers will help."

A good idea in theory. In practice it requires someone quick enough to stay in front of him and strong enough not to be bumped off when he gets his body into them on the drive. The Wiz don't have a horse in that race.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2008 4:00 PM

Don't listen to these cleveland idiots. If you compare the two fouls and slow the play down you can clearly see how they are virtually the same. Haywood's foul was no worse than Devin Brown's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

Posted by: Wiz4Life | April 23, 2008 4:02 PM

"Most of the posts are on ohio.com under Brian Windhorst's blog (which is a great read, by the way, he is a balanced writer). I wouldn't use number of posts to measure fan interest, did you hear how loud it was at the Q?"

Well, I'll give it a shot but Cleveland.com, The Plain Dealer's site, was pretty dead when I checked it. Our writers are homers but they're GOOD writers. They're rational and observant too. They criticize the 'zards frequently. Also, you can't tell me that Lebron doesn't travel, something they frequently point out for example.

The Q was rockin and I'll give you that. But yes, I would measure fan interest by comment posts. Not everyone can afford or is able to go the game so many more follow it at home.

Hey "Deshaun," his name is spelled Deshawn.

Posted by: rob g in annapolis | April 23, 2008 4:07 PM

"It isn't a series until you lose at home."

You do realize Cleveland doesn't have to win in your building to win the series right?

I don't think any Wizards fans have any room to talk about officiating and being soft. Why don't you hypocrites go back to 2006 when you whined game after game after game about the officiating.

Washington is an ALL EXCUSE team. They come up with the best ones. For example:

"Lebron traveled!"
Explanation: Washington fans must be blind or have really fuzzy TV's. Either that or they don't know the rules of the NBA where a players pivot foot can shift if there is body contact and no whistle. Calling the second game winner a travel makes you look like a fool.

"Your coach walks onto the floor!"
Explanation: They've never watched basketball before. Which could be true considering that some fans still think they have a shot in this series.

"The officiating stinks!"
Explanation: Welcome to the NBA. Tell Gil to hit his free throws next time.

"Our team was hurt!"
Explanation: True...sucks to be you.

"Your team pretends to go after the ball when they fall hard!"
Explanation: Now THAT'S a new one. I thought I heard it all until I found out that some wizards fans have the ability to read minds. I'll call Big Ben right now and let him know that he needs to just punch people in the grill as they stroll down the lane as to not make it look like he's playing pretend tea party with the silly little wizards girls.

Posted by: Washington fans aren't smart | April 23, 2008 4:08 PM

Haywood is an idiot, and so is anyone else who believes that wasnt a flagrant 2. Cmon guys admit it. It wouldnt have mattered who was fouled like that. He pushed him right out of the air at the apex of his jump. He had literally NO intention of making a play on the ball. Are you all idiots?? That is basically the definition of a flagrant 2. That is one of the most dangerous plays you can make. There is a difference between fouling someone hard, and just pushing them out of bounds. he didnt attempt to brace
him, he didnt wrap him up, he didnt just body him, he flat out pushed him. I actually bet if it wasnt LeBron James, people wouldnt be complaining as much, deep down, I think you all know that too.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m827UUOsN7Y

anyone would have been ejected for fouling anyone like that...

Posted by: Haywood Isdumb | April 23, 2008 4:19 PM

ITS ABOUT TIME U WIZARDS SHUT UP OR PUT UP. FACE THE REALITY, U CAN NEVER EVER BEAT CLEVELAND IN THE PLAYOFFS, SIMPLY BCUS WE ARE BETTER. NOW CAN U DIG THAT

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 4:19 PM

why does lebron always touch his lips after he gets fouled??

Posted by: Loma Linda School of Dentistry | April 23, 2008 4:20 PM

lol

Posted by: Huck Faywood | April 23, 2008 4:20 PM

Cavs fans won't stop whining about how Wizards fans won't stop whining.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 4:32 PM

"Most of the posts are on ohio.com under Brian Windhorst's blog (which is a great read, by the way, he is a balanced writer). I wouldn't use number of posts to measure fan interest, did you hear how loud it was at the Q?"

Well, I'll give it a shot but Cleveland.com, The Plain Dealer's site, was pretty dead when I checked it. Our writers are homers but they're GOOD writers. They're rational and observant too. They criticize the 'zards frequently. Also, you can't tell me that Lebron doesn't travel, something they frequently point out for example.

The Q was rockin and I'll give you that. But yes, I would measure fan interest by comment posts. Not everyone can afford or is able to go the game so many more follow it at home.

Hey "Deshaun," his name is spelled Deshawn.

Posted by: rob g in annapolis | April 23, 2008 4:07 PM

I'm a longtime Bullets/Wizards fan and I'll take a rocking crowd at home games over blog comments any day and night. This blog is an entertaining distraction from things like work, but please don't believe it has much of anything to say about the intensity of fan support.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | April 23, 2008 4:34 PM

"Does Mr. Jordan remember in 2006 game six when he crossed the half court line?! hmmm? nope? thats what i thought. That was a technical foul. Not Mike walking to the reff. Cavs will sweep!"

First of all, Eddie Jordan didn't say anything about Mike Brown running on to the court. Second, how does leaving the coaches box equal a tech for one coach but not the other? Your point is illogical and makes no sense.

Lastly, the biggest cry baby in this series is Mike Brown. Playoff basketball is tough, and if he isn't prepared to have his star get roughed up, sit him on the bench. If the Wiz's strategy is to rough up LeBron, it probably won't work, but it's what they choose to do. If Brown want's to eliminate that choice, sit LBJ down. If not, shut your mouth and let the players play

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 4:36 PM

Hurry Thursday.

Posted by: khrabb | April 23, 2008 4:36 PM

man the wizards is full of excuses they sux there gonna be out of the playoffs in 2 more games....haywood clearly shoved lebron on purpose becouse if he didnt he was gonna get dunked on. the wizards cant stop lebron so stop your alls cring and stop being sore loser
LEBRON IS THE KING

Posted by: spencer | April 23, 2008 4:36 PM

"I see its not just you fans who are idiots its most of your sports writers too. Brendan Haystack extended his arms and tried to hurt someone. He should have been suspended. I don't care who it was he took the cheap shot at. He should be gone."

Stop crying. If Haywood (or any other player on any other team) wanted to hurt another player, there is ample opportunity to do so. To suggest that he did try and hurt the James is crazy. What he wanted to do was put a hard fould on James and send him to the free throw line to earn his points. He fouled too hard and got thrown out, that's the price he pays.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 4:38 PM

man the wizards is full of excuses they sux there gonna be out of the playoffs in 2 more games....haywood clearly shoved lebron on purpose becouse if he didnt he was gonna get dunked on. the wizards cant stop lebron so stop your alls cring and stop being sore loser
LEBRON IS THE KING

Posted by: spencer | April 23, 2008 4:36 PM

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And there you have your average person from Cleveland. Good for you Spencer, you don't let being retarded stand in the way of living your life. Bravo young man.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 4:40 PM

Without going into any of my own opinions on hard fouls on either side, there is something esle that bother me far more.

As a journalist myself, I have been continually dismayed by the columns and articles written by D.C. area "jounralists", most of them coming straight for the Washington Post. I have always thought the Post was a serious and highly regarded publication, but I have been forced to change my mind in the past week or so. I also write sports and have written even for a publication that is directly intertwined in the team itself.

Yet never have I written nor witnessed articles that are so bias and devoid of any objectivism. I could see if Wizards fans would like to shout until next season about how bad the Cavs are, how bad the refs are, how bad Lebron is. But this is not a Wizards message board or even their official NBA site- this is the Washington Post, even if only in blog form on this example.

I guess it just depresses me that the Cleveland Cabaliers and the NBA playoffs in a larger part turns a respectable publication into a biased rag that hever seems to even attempt to show both sides of a story regardless of situation.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 4:40 PM

Haywood's foul was no worse than Devin Brown's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

Posted by: Wiz4Life | April 23, 2008 4:02 PM

Umm...

Nevermind LOL!

Posted by: jones-y | April 23, 2008 4:40 PM

The Wiz need to quit trying to be the Detroit Bad Boys and get back to what got them here in the first place. Cleveland is inside their heads, playing freaking mind games with them.

Be careful what you wish for, it just might happen.

I'll be there, in white, tomorrow night.

Posted by: Section101 | April 23, 2008 4:42 PM

are so used to losing that they celebrate a 2-0 lead in a best of 7 series. What kind of sense does that make? All they did was hold their home court. Aren't they supposed to do that? But listen to them running their mouths like they have already beaten the Wizards. Karma comes around. Keep talking that talk. Go ahead and bow down to your king, cause no one else is. Put that sissy on his behind all game 3 and make him shoot that 58% from the line.

Posted by: Cleveland Browntowns | April 23, 2008 4:42 PM

"respectable publication"

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 4:40 PM

Where? Oh you mean the Post? GTFOH... I've never encountered a 'respectable' major media outlet. Not one single publication or broadcast whose opinion wasn't paid for and evident in even its 'objective' reporting.

Neither here nor there, really, just making an observation.

Posted by: jones-y | April 23, 2008 4:45 PM

Washington fans whine and complain to much for most fans likeing.

Posted by: Lakers fan | April 23, 2008 4:47 PM

I is likeing it much gooder when my star player whine and complain.

Posted by: Lakers fan | April 23, 2008 4:53 PM

Most of the posts are on ohio.com under Brian Windhorst's blog (which is a great read, by the way, he is a balanced writer). I wouldn't use number of posts to measure fan interest, did you hear how loud it was at the Q?"

Well, I'll give it a shot but Cleveland.com, The Plain Dealer's site, was pretty dead when I checked it. Our writers are homers but they're GOOD writers. They're rational and observant too. They criticize the 'zards frequently. Also, you can't tell me that Lebron doesn't travel, something they frequently point out for example.

The Q was rockin and I'll give you that. But yes, I would measure fan interest by comment posts. Not everyone can afford or is able to go the game so many more follow it at home.

Hey "Deshaun," his name is spelled Deshawn.

Yeah, it's funny, but no one reads the only paper in Cleveland, at least on-line. Ohio.com is powered by the Akron Beacon Journal and the reason is Brian Windhorst. ESPN uses him as a special writer, usually about LeBron, frequently.

As far as Lebron travelling, he does. As does most of the superstars in the league. I used to scream about Jordan doing it against us, but now it seems okay. I think it is that hop step that is so popular now that drives purists crazy.

Posted by: Dunbar | April 23, 2008 4:53 PM

"Lebron traveled"
Explanation: He walked, just like all other NBA players. Pointing out the truth does not equate to an excuse.

"Your coach walks on the floor"
Explanation: He leaves the coaches box routinely to go give Lebron a tissue

"The officiating stinks"
Explanation: Absolutley right. The issue is whether they are pro-lebron or anti wiz. I think it's crazy to say the refs have it out for the wiz. That would be an excuse, but to suggest that the refs are pro-lebron is not all that off base. We've all seen it before.

"Our team was hurt"
Explanation: True, but they are all playing now. I haven't seen anyone make a valid point about injuries. If your hurt, you don't play because you have no value to the team.

"Your team pretends to go after the ball when they foul hard"
Explanation: First, I don't know what that means. Second, for a team who's fans love to talk junk to other teams fans about complaining, whining, etc... they should really look at how the Cav's have played and conducted themselves before they get on Wizard fans.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 4:54 PM

Hey wizards fans go wine somehwere else you wussies aw how cute your down 2-0 and your mr.hot shot deshaun stevenson cant back up his trash talk! nor Gilber for that matter. so you can all go MOPE about every excuse and call that you supposibly " dont get " or " just because its Lebron" thats right the cavs are about to BEAT ur wizards for the 3rd year in a row! wow what a wizards team right there. Its too bad Wizards are NOT at the cavs level

Getting blown out by 30?!?!?!

PATHETIC!

GO CAVS BABY

Posted by: Cleveland guy | April 23, 2008 4:54 PM

Does anyone care what you think?

Posted by: Nice Spelling, Lakers Fan | April 23, 2008 4:55 PM

Where? Oh you mean the Post? GTFOH... I've never encountered a 'respectable' major media outlet. Not one single publication or broadcast whose opinion wasn't paid for and evident in even its 'objective' reporting.

Neither here nor there, really, just making an observation.

Posted by: jones-y | April 23, 2008 4:45 PM


...Ha ha...I hear you on that. I guess what I meant was, at a publication the size of the Post with reputation, regardless of its validity, that it has, you woudl figure it would be different. That department editors or copy editors would step up and be like "I know that we're a D.C. paper, but we need to not sound like complete homers if we want to be journalists." That's just what I figured would be the case...I suppose not. As an example...you don't see the guys on a show like "Around the Horn" repping the teams from their cities papers...heck, they often rib on them the hardest.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 4:55 PM

WELL ITS ALL TRUE
the wizards always point fingers at somebody else to blaim. Its NEVER their fault huh? well guess what it is and there too scared to admit it.

Hahahha L-train is king baby its about to be 3 straight years of defeat for the wizards
WOO HOO CAVS BABBY FINALS AGAIN

Posted by: Cleveland guy | April 23, 2008 4:57 PM

I seriously doubt you write anywhere. You can't spell check or edit your work before you send it out. If you write for a "respectable pulication" I'd be shocked. Go back and write some more blogs on yahoo.com and stop pretending to be a real writer.

ps. read Wilbon's article before you talk about one sided coverage. Moron.

Posted by: for the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 4:57 PM

Wizard fans will be eliminated for the third straight year by the Cavs and all they want to do is complain. When all is said and done you will have no more reason to talk, but we will.

Posted by: Ballin | April 23, 2008 4:59 PM

Ok ill get off i know im not a real write


But even that said


wizards still suck
GOODBYE DESPERATE WIZARDS FANS

boo

Posted by: Cleveland guy | April 23, 2008 4:59 PM

During the game Reggie Miller even made the statement about LeTravel "It's amazing how he can get from behind the 3 point line and between three players to make that move." Or something like that, he even let out a "knowing chuckle" after he said it. Well Reggie, what's amazing is someone who is constantly allowed and is actually promoted by his traveling. I have a bet with a friend, if he finds a commercial highlight of LeTravel where he actually does not travel, he gets dinner. Still hasn't happened yet.

However this is the NBA, I do not care what anyone says, David S is the best and worst thing ever for basketball. He has created one of the best spectator sports in the world! Yes the world, basketball does translate well to countries outside the US. However he has done that by creating a star league. So essentially you have Hollywood and Ballywood. So LeTravel is similar to Jerry Seinfeld. Jerry could not act to save his life, but he was funny and people liked him so that didn't stop him from huge success in hollywod. LaTravel cannot dunk without taking 3 or 4 steps, (and just like Jerry) this will not stop him from being an NBA superstar mostly for the same reasons, he's funny and people like him.

Earlier in the post someone made a WWE reference. It was uncanny, the NBA will soon follow the path of the WWE (or WWF) and will eventually admit that this is not really a sport, it's entertainment and most of the "important" "High Rating" games were in fact predetermined. (that's "fixed" for the illiterate Cleveland fans out there)

Posted by: ericmc1998 | April 23, 2008 5:00 PM

Hey wizards fans go wine somehwere else you wussies aw how cute your down 2-0 and your mr.hot shot deshaun stevenson cant back up his trash talk! nor Gilber for that matter. so you can all go MOPE about every excuse and call that you supposibly " dont get " or " just because its Lebron" thats right the cavs are about to BEAT ur wizards for the 3rd year in a row! wow what a wizards team right there. Its too bad Wizards are NOT at the cavs level

Getting blown out by 30?!?!?!

PATHETIC!

GO CAVS BABY

Posted by: Cleveland guy | April 23, 2008 4:54 PM

-------------------------------------------

And there you have your average person from Cleveland. Good for you Cleveland Guy, you don't let being retarded stand in the way of living your life. Bravo young man.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 5:02 PM

I seriously doubt you write anywhere. You can't spell check or edit your work before you send it out. If you write for a "respectable pulication" I'd be shocked. Go back and write some more blogs on yahoo.com and stop pretending to be a real writer.

ps. read Wilbon's article before you talk about one sided coverage. Moron.

Posted by: for the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 4:57 PM


Ha ha ha...I didn't figure I would be called out by an angry Wizards fan for simply talking about the level of writing and reporting at the Washington Post. But I guess there are really just a bunch of tools in D.C., though I know there a number of intelligeent folks out there too. Maybe it's being around the all the goverment officials ;).

I'm sorry I didn't spell check my post, I was just putting something up quickly for the sake of a point, not to care about perfection. But if you want me to, I'll make sure I make this post completely correct, even with AP style friend ;). As for me being a writer, I can send you some of my clips from my publication or my transcripts from my college journalism degree at Kent State University if you like. So I think you should just step off and either argue my points or just pray your team does better in game 3 when they defend their home turf. Have a good day :).

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 5:04 PM

Why would a Cavs fan be posting on a Wizards' blog? Come on, how jobless can people get? You won 2 games. Big deal. Celebrate on your cavs blogs.

Posted by: Bart | April 23, 2008 5:05 PM

Just for fun from the NBA official rules:
I have never seen LeBron James where he didn't break one of these on his way to the basket.
Section XIII--Traveling

a. A player who receives the ball while
standing still may pivot, using either foot
as the pivot foot.
b. A player who receives the ball while
he is progressing or upon completion of
a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm
in coming to a stop, passing or shooting
the ball.A player who receives the ball
while he is progressing may use a twocount
rhythm to start his dribble.
The first count occurs:
(1) As he receives the ball, if either foot
is touching the floor at the time he
receives it.
(2) As the foot touches the floor, or as
both feet touch the floor simultaneously
after he receives the ball, if both feet are
off the floor when he receives it.
The second occurs:
(1) After the count of one when either
foot touches the floor, or both feet
touch the floor simultaneously.
A player who comes to a stop on the
count of one when both feet are on the
floor or touch the floor simultaneously,
may pivot using either foot as his pivot.
If he alights with both feet he must
release the ball before either foot
touches the floor.
A player who has one foot on the floor
or lands with one foot first to the floor,
may only pivot with that foot. Once that
foot is lifted from the floor it may not
return until the ball is released.
A player who jumps off one foot on the
count of one may land with both feet
simultaneously for count two. In this
situation, the player may not pivot with
either foot and if one or both feet leave
the floor the ball must be released
before either returns to the floor.
c. In starting a dribble after (1) receiving
the ball while standing still, or (2)
coming to a legal stop, the ball must be
out of the player's hand before the pivot
foot is raised off the floor.
d. If a player, with the ball in his
possession, raises his pivot foot off the
floor, he must pass or shoot before his
pivot foot returns to the floor. If he
drops the ball while in the air, he may
not be the first to touch the ball.
e. A player who falls to the floor while
holding the ball, or while coming to
a stop, may not gain an advantage
by sliding.
f. A player who attempts a field goal
may not be the first to touch the ball if
it fails to touch the backboard, basket
ring or another player.
g. A player may not be the first to touch
his own pass unless the ball touches
his backboard, basket ring or another
104
player.
h. Upon ending his dribble or gaining
control of the ball, a player may not
touch the floor consecutively with the
same foot (hop).

Posted by: NBA Rules if you’re not named LeBron | April 23, 2008 5:06 PM

DUH!i no im write about u wizurds fans that wine and complane.go sumwher else to talk wizurds not on wizurds blog wussys. DUH!

Posted by: Cleveland Guy | April 23, 2008 5:07 PM

extra e in intelligent in my post and an extra "the" in the last line of my first stanza...that will be 20 points off of my final grade ;). Guess I should have sent my document to Microsoft Word or even MAC Newsedit Pro first...I lament my mistakes, but hold true to my point ;).

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 5:08 PM

I guess it just depresses me that the Cleveland Cabaliers and the NBA playoffs in a larger part turns a respectable publication into a biased rag that hever seems to even attempt to show both sides of a story regardless of situation.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 4:40 PM

I am not answering for Ivan or Michael, nor do I have any opinion on which "side" they are on.
I think balance is the whole point here, while Washington fans and the Wizards have lost the propaganda battle put out by Brown & James and swallowed hook line and sinker by the rest of the media, we have a reporter who covers the Wizards pointing out instances of unfairness. Is that so bad, or isn't that part of the journalist's job? Same thing that drives news reporters to follow down leads and stories that report on the rather less known facts of an emerging story. There are indeed many sides, and if you the journalist ignore any of the sides or allow only one facet of information to be made available, then you have not done your job. How can you report on Mike Brown complaining about his player being clobbered and not cover Eddie Jordan's response? Shame on you "For the sake of", I can't believe you are a journalist. So if LeBron James or any of his teammates flagrantly foul an opposing player, are you going to ignore it? He did it several times, just replay both games. You choose not to see what's in front of your eyes, shame on you!

Posted by: rgz | April 23, 2008 5:10 PM

I keep seeing these idiot Cleveland fans mention LeBron in the same sentence as me. Let's get one thing straight. I AVERAGED a triple-double for an entire season, and I did it in an era when defenders were allowed to do just about everything short of eye-gouging. Unlike some people we both know, you never ever saw me whine like a baby with colic after I got hammered by Nate Thurmond or Walt Bellamy on a drive. I also got more rebounds than LeBaby, despite the fact that he has four inches on me. I was a far superior perimeter defender. And I won a championship, which nobody in Cleveland has done since the Jurassic Era. Oh, and one last thing--I played most of my career in Cincy, which, if you have to live in Ohio, is infinitely preferable to dwelling in the Mistake on the Lake. So there.

Posted by: Oscar Robertson | April 23, 2008 5:11 PM

I wonder why Eddie Jordan hasn't been "working" the referee? Sure it might be undignify but we've seen it work several times. Phil Jackson (even though his teams are usually loaded) does it to good effect. And now Mike Brown (with a superstar in his stable) is doing it. I would have thought Eddie Jordan would have been talking about the free throw differential in the first game. Sure the wizards didn't drive, but facts never got in the way of a good spin :)

Posted by: Bart | April 23, 2008 5:11 PM

Yea SHAME on you!

Word up rgz!

Posted by: rgz's boy! | April 23, 2008 5:13 PM

Ha ha ha...I didn't figure I would be called out by an angry Wizards fan for simply talking about the level of writing and reporting at the Washington Post. But I guess there are really just a bunch of tools in D.C., though I know there a number of intelligeent folks out there too. Maybe it's being around the all the goverment officials ;).

I'm sorry I didn't spell check my post, I was just putting something up quickly for the sake of a point, not to care about perfection. But if you want me to, I'll make sure I make this post completely correct, even with AP style friend ;). As for me being a writer, I can send you some of my clips from my publication or my transcripts from my college journalism degree at Kent State University if you like. So I think you should just step off and either argue my points or just pray your team does better in game 3 when they defend their home turf. Have a good day :).

Intelligeent? Are you for real? As for the "clips", I don't need them, but you seem to be awfully defensive.

Posted by: PLEASE SPELL CHECK. | April 23, 2008 5:13 PM

And by the way, even were the Wizards to lose the playoff games to Cavs, I'm still a Wizards fan. This is my town, this is my team.

Go Wizards!

Oh yeah, I subscribe to the Washington Post too!

Posted by: rgz | April 23, 2008 5:15 PM

This blog should be bias. It's a Washington DC blog, which by the way, is the city where the Wizards play. If you want unbiased opinion, go read the USA Today.

Posted by: Arguing your points | April 23, 2008 5:16 PM

PLEASE SPELL CHECK, how did this post turn into your resume? Leave now, please. No one wants to read your work here. Or even your posts for that matter.

Have a great AP styled day.

:)

Posted by: Please leave SPELL CHECK | April 23, 2008 5:17 PM

i sobskribe too TVs guide!

Posted by: Cleveland guy | April 23, 2008 5:20 PM

How many Cleveland reports are famous at the national level. I can think of three from this paper of the top of my head. You don't get famous at a national level if all you do is write about how great your local starts are. The Washington post is actually on of the best sports publications in the US.

That's why we have so many Cleveland fans reading it and posting on it.

Point closed.

Posted by: ericmc1998 | April 23, 2008 5:22 PM

Correction
**Reporters are famous at the national level**

Posted by: ericmc1998 | April 23, 2008 5:23 PM

I used to like DC. Some of you are hilarious. Thinking that the Wiz didnt do anything to deserve the "perception" of hard fouls. Blaming the losses on everything except for the play of your team and the Cavs. Some have resulted to saying they are glad they dont live in Cleveland. Taking personal shots like they had anything to do with the make up or construction of DC just as any of us with the City of Cleveland. Grow up. The reason why most of us visit your blog is because your own players spotlighted it. I have no problems with the strategy talk but this complaining about the refs, injuries, etc...is ridiculous. The Wizards (Gilbert) said they wanted the Cavs.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 5:23 PM

I'm defensive? I am sorry, I was just trying to defend what was said about me, that is all. As for rgz, I understand, in part, what you are saying. I wasn't even disagreeing with what was in this article exactly, just about it was written. The article, whether it was a blog or not, is a Washington Post article. Not to sound crass or anything, but you learn as a journalist that you need to be objective to be respected. I guess you don't need to be if you're a D.C. area journalist. I apologize for offending anyone, thought it seems everyone seems to be a little testy against the things I wrote that aren't even that negative. Oh well, I guess when you cheer for a team that is known across the NBA and nearly the whole world of sports now for talking a big game, it is no surprise your fans follow suit.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 5:24 PM

Oh...and one more thing. I can tell you with no waver in my voice (or keystrokes in this case) that if the Cavs were down 0-2 in the 1st round to the same team that has now beat them in how many playoffs games in a row (8 I believe?), sports jounralists in Cleveland would not hesitate to hammer the team down for how bad they are playing. In fact, go back and read some articles from our championship run last year and you'll see journalists from the Cleveland area coming down hard on the Cavs for th epathetic way we played against the Spurs. And yes, it was pathetic, I can admit when team is playing awful.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 5:29 PM

Glad to see that EJ finally spoke up to defend his own players who have absorbed more than there fair share of hard fouls. LeTravel isn't going to get the same protection from the refs when he comes to D.C. that he received in Cleveland. It will be interesting if the tables are turned and the Cavs are whistled for a bunch of fouls now that EJ has brought up the issue of the officiating.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 23, 2008 5:32 PM

The points you make are logic defying. why would you expect fans writing on a blog to be unbiased. The whole idea of these blogs is to get complaints out and, in the case of inteligent people, discuss what the actual problems are. I have yet to read where any fan has said "the refs are the reason the Cavs are winning." Obviously, the team that plays the best will win, and thus far it has been the Cavs. I think that arguing that the refs have been neutral is pointless. The reality is that the Cavs have been doing all of the complaining about the officiating, not the Wiz. The sad part about LeBron's pleading is that it's unnecesary. He's such a great player, but his antics make him appear to be a whiny, entitled, little boy. He will go through the same abuse every round, against every opponent until he realizes that acting like a child is beneath him. If he were to go out and just play and not react to every call (or non-call) he would garner some more respect. Or, in the least, he would make every person on this blog a little more quiet about him.

Posted by: I'm not sure where you are coming from | April 23, 2008 5:53 PM

Yet never have I written nor witnessed articles that are so bias and devoid of any objectivism. I could see if Wizards fans would like to shout until next season about how bad the Cavs are, how bad the refs are, how bad Lebron is. But this is not a Wizards message board or even their official NBA site- this is the Washington Post, even if only in blog form on this example.

I guess it just depresses me that the Cleveland Cabaliers and the NBA playoffs in a larger part turns a respectable publication into a biased rag that hever seems to even attempt to show both sides of a story regardless of situation.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 4:40 PM

Oh come on, don't be so naive. The Washington Post is out to sell newspapers. Their audience is made up predominately of fans of DC sports teams. Their writers are paid to follow around these teams to report on them, inevitably leading them to some kind of bias. Do you really expect objectivity?

And where is there ever objectivity in journalism? Any kind of journalism, from any newspaper? Objectivity in reporting on the primaries? Objectivity in reporting on Iraq? Where?

You'd be better off in your news consumption if you didn't assume the news you were being fed (or producing for that matter) was anything remotely objective. A much more honest, realistic way of analyzing journalism means accepting that news is created/shaped by human beings who have opinions, and/or businesses who have profit motives.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | April 23, 2008 6:01 PM

WHO IS DAMON JONES?! who the heck is deshawn stevenson? the only reason anyone knows his name is cause he made a fool out of himself callin lebron out...oh and by the way...damon jones is the man who came of the bench 2 years ago for his first time in the game, lebron drives, kickes it out to him damon jones...3 ball...GOT IT! oh sorry wizards lose again

Posted by: colin | April 23, 2008 6:10 PM

"The Wizards are trying to do something they don't normally do and aren't very good at, and the results are what you'd expect."

Ahhh, I think we finally agree on something Kalo. These were my exact thoughts watching the first two games. The Wiz just aren't a "bruising" type team.

They should just go back to "playing ball" and forget the "Clubber Lebron" thing. Besides, the League/refs won't let that happen anyway.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | April 23, 2008 6:13 PM

This has to be the biggest laugh I have had in years. LeTravel? Wow. They have nicknames for the guy who singlehandedly can destroy a team.
Apparently the rules only are being broken only by the Cavs. Take the blinders off. I have never seen so many whiners congregate together for a cause.
Keep whinin.Keep writing your BS consiracy stories.Keep shootin Gilbert, and blame it on your wrist.Keep fouling 'Brenda'. 2 more games and you can watch the rest.


Posted by: Ryan- | April 23, 2008 6:18 PM

Oh come on, don't be so naive. The Washington Post is out to sell newspapers. Their audience is made up predominately of fans of DC sports teams. Their writers are paid to follow around these teams to report on them, inevitably leading them to some kind of bias. Do you really expect objectivity?

And where is there ever objectivity in journalism? Any kind of journalism, from any newspaper? Objectivity in reporting on the primaries? Objectivity in reporting on Iraq? Where?

You'd be better off in your news consumption if you didn't assume the news you were being fed (or producing for that matter) was anything remotely objective. A much more honest, realistic way of analyzing journalism means accepting that news is created/shaped by human beings who have opinions, and/or businesses who have profit motives.


Though I hear a lot of what you are saying...but what about Michael Wilbon? Someone mentioned him before and he is a great point of what I'm saying. He is why I think that the Washington Post is a respectful publication and it saddens me that this stuff, among other articles get out. Wilbon will likely pick the Wizards over the Cavs, which is fine and understandable. But he is an objective journalist and that is why he is semi-famous. I just wish other writers at the WP would follow his example because even if this is a blog, it bares the Washington Post name and reads less like a piece of journalism and more like a post on a fan forum.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 6:28 PM

"Well, I'll give it a shot but Cleveland.com, The Plain Dealer's site, was pretty dead when I checked it."

That's because most of the Cavs fans who feel like chatting online do so on the Cavs' official forums at:

http://cavaliers.infopop.cc/eve/forums

Also, the main reason you get Cleveland fans here is because people on those forums post links to these articles, which spurs more people to go and check them out. We then read the ridiculous comments below the article, and feel compelled to comment ourselves.

Further, it helps that you don't need an account to post here (although it severely hurts the overall intellect of the comments), so anyone can just quickly post a comment if they feel so compelled. If I had to sign up for an account, I wouldn't be posting anything here because I wouldn't get enough use out of the account to justify its existence.

Posted by: briantw | April 23, 2008 6:30 PM

Oh yeah, and if I were Mike Brown, you better believe I'd be yelling every time LeBron got hit. LeBron is his meal ticket. Without LeBron, the Cavs probably would have won half as many games as they did (if that), and Brown would be out of a job.

All great coaches and teams work the refs, and most of them work the refs a lot harder than anyone on Cleveland has ever done. Just look at Tim Duncan. The man has clearly never committed a foul in his life if you ask him. The same goes for pretty much every player on the Pistons. If they get called for a foul, you better believe the refs are gonna hear about it. And let's not even get into Kobe, who verbal flops like no one else in the league (and actually gets plenty of calls just because he yelled).

That's the way the league is. The great players know how to get calls when they drive, and it's a collective effort by both them and their coaches to make sure those fouls get called.

Posted by: briantw | April 23, 2008 6:34 PM

Here we go again. We keep kicking the crap out of the pee wee wizards and all the fans and players do is blame the refs. I feel sooo sorryyy for youuuu. Cry cry cry is all you have done for years now. When you know your second best to a team i guess that's all you can do. What else do you have left. Get a life and also a new team, this one s8cks.

Posted by: steven | April 23, 2008 6:41 PM

"Again...NBA Championships - Washington 1, Cleveland 0."
im sorry, but has this current washington team beat the cavs yet? i dont think so.

also, a lot of cavs fans dont even like mike brown. he sucks..hes only there because of lebron. if lebron gets hurt, hes out a job..thats why he cares. hes pathetic.

anyways, the wizards are pansies and need to stop blaming everyone but themselves.. the only reason im even bothering to comment this is because this article is completely ridiculous and so unprofessional...its unbelievable. i cannot believe how many morons can live in one city. amazing.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 6:43 PM

The Wizards should have just lost their games at the end of the season so they didn't have to play Cleveland. They obviously can't beat them. They know it so they hope talking will substitute for their inability to play the game. Let the talkers talk and the players play. Cavs in 5.

Posted by: YouCantSee-2ndRound | April 23, 2008 6:47 PM

Unbiased reporting?
As good as it gets:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/sports/wizards/

One-sided reporting? maybe
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/

Posted by: What did you say? | April 23, 2008 7:22 PM

If the wiz fans who post here are blaming the refs for losing as sooooooo many clevelanders are accusing them of, please provide evidence. I don't see any posts where people are saying "the refs are the reason we are losing". That's ridiculous! the refs don't shoot 35% from the field. They don't turn the ball over. Having said that, there is a huge difference between blaming the refs and pointing out inconsistencies. All the "super intelligent" Cleveland fans don't read very well. You all assume, incorrectly, that the beef is "the refs are causing the wiz to lost" when the actual complaint is "why don't the refs call the game consistently BOTH ways. A travel is a travel, whether it's Gil or LeBron. But to say the wiz fans are blaming the rest is moronic and shows how Cavs fans actually think. they perceive the wizard fans as whiny, but fail to actually digest what is being said. Stay of this blog if all you have to say are foolish comments that say more about your lack of intelligence than the people you mean to rile up. Your verbal attacks on Wizard fans are far far far far worse than anything any wizard player has ever said.

BOW!!!!!!

Posted by: PLEASE GIVE EVIDENCE | April 23, 2008 7:28 PM

I don't know what happened, I tried several times to post, but my post was "lost in space", perhaps my name is blocked? So instead of resubmitting the whole long thing, that is me What did you Say?

Posted by: rgz | April 23, 2008 7:28 PM

Eddie Jordan ran all over the court 2 years ago in the playoffs and wasn't pennalized so Mike Brown can do whatever he wants to make sure his star isn't being treated unfairly. Heck, many times LeBron got smacked on the face and there weren't any calls. Haywood doesn't know what he's talking about. I understand Eddie's protecting his team but Washington has hit us much harder much more often than we hit them. And by the way almost all of the Cavs hard fouls were clean and not intended to hurt.

Posted by: Kyle | April 23, 2008 7:39 PM

Let these Cleveland fans take out their frustrations on this site. No Cleveland franchise has won anything of consequence in almost 50 years. Take Lebron off of this squad and you have the T-Wolves. The Wizards obviously aren't going to stop this cat, but Cleveland has been arguably the worst city for overall performance of sports franchises over a long period of time.

Posted by: Mistake by the Lake | April 23, 2008 7:55 PM

"Eddie Jordan ran all over the court 2 years ago in the playoffs and wasn't pennalized so Mike Brown can do whatever he wants to make sure his star isn't being treated unfairly."

That is by far the dumbest comment I've ever read. So what if EJ ran all over the court? Cav fans have the same right to complain about that as we do to talk about Mike Brown, but to suggest that Brown can do that b/c EJ did is plain stupid.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 8:08 PM

At least the last few Cleveland fans have had a good grip on the English language. If Cavs fans want to come on here and gloat about being up 2-0 or whine about how the Post is "biased", thats fine. Just don't make us labor through reading one big run-on sentence filled with grammar and spelling mistakes that a third grader wouldn't make.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 8:12 PM

Though I hear a lot of what you are saying...but what about Michael Wilbon? Someone mentioned him before and he is a great point of what I'm saying. He is why I think that the Washington Post is a respectful publication and it saddens me that this stuff, among other articles get out. Wilbon will likely pick the Wizards over the Cavs, which is fine and understandable. But he is an objective journalist and that is why he is semi-famous. I just wish other writers at the WP would follow his example because even if this is a blog, it bares the Washington Post name and reads less like a piece of journalism and more like a post on a fan forum.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 6:28 PM

Wilbon did pick the Wizards in 6 right? On PTI I saw him pick the Capitals to win game 3 at Philly (they lost), while conceding his hometown bias.

I just think you'd have to be a robot to be 100% objective. And as I suggested before, I think people should view/judge the media in a different light than objectivity, something they're not (even when they claim to be).

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | April 23, 2008 8:31 PM

My last comment on reporting and what is said on this blog-
News reports are news reports, on the other hand columns and blogs offer opinions, interpretations and analysis.

Posted by: rgz | April 23, 2008 8:53 PM

It won't even be worth trying to sort through all of these responses until the Cleveland fans go home.

Posted by: Lou | April 23, 2008 9:14 PM

i bet 50 on Cleveland with jesus. sorry washington.

Posted by: god | April 23, 2008 9:28 PM

crap..

Posted by: Deshaun Stevenson | April 23, 2008 9:29 PM

Oh I didn't say Wilbon wasn't biased because we all have bias no matter what field we're in. I'm just sayign that Wilbon, though he picked the Wizards in 6, still was able to give the Cavs high praise on PTI for how they won game 2.

It just isn't something I have seen on Washington Post really...praise when a team just outplays you. I know people argue about the refs and that's always going to be a factor...but they make it sound like the Cavs are not a good team- they only are good because Lebron cheats and Stern loves the Cavs and yadda yadday, which isn't true.

I'll be the first to say the Wixards are good team- they wouldn't have gotten into the 5th seed with all their injuries unless they were talented. I just feel that a lot of writers and fans of the Wizards and in the D.C. area just want to belittle the Cavs efforts rather than show them any good tidings for a game well played. As much as I hate the Spurs, I gave them a ton of praise for knocking us into our place last year. And I'm not saying all Wizards fans are ignorant and vapid...it just seems like a lot of them are and it makes it tough to just talk basketball.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 9:31 PM

Oh...and that last comment was mine...sorry. :)

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 9:32 PM

i love how these washington fans get on cavs fans about grammar. We are talking about basketball here, my god, doe it really matter that much? Typical washington fans, always looking to make an excuse about somebody else. Have fun goin' fishing.

Whos overrated?

Posted by: hahahah | April 23, 2008 9:32 PM

Ha sorry...one more thing. Before it gets mentioned, I know there are some ignorant Cavs fans that come on to your forums and just spout crap in an unintelligent and evil manner and I don't appreciate them...they make our team look bad. But I just came on here with an opinion, not to be malicious and I just want to be respected for that.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 9:33 PM

Retards...i told you so!

Posted by: Charkles Barkley | April 23, 2008 9:39 PM

Go Wiz! hahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Osama Bin-Laden | April 23, 2008 9:42 PM

LOL, the dope head that said 90 percent of clevelanders are illiterate! According to the National Adult Literacy Survey, the District of Columbia has one of the lowest adult literacy rates in the nation--37 percent of DC residents read only at or below a third grade level. LoL! Im surprised that you were even able to spell illiterate correct you worthless citizen of Washington D.C. I think George Dubbyah has instilled mental illness into more of you people than before he took office, im sure glad you idiots are stuck with him and no one else, have fun when you are nuked since all the countries that hate us have Washington D.C. marked for destruction and with good reason, who needs your city anyways, you don't even have a single skyscraper! lol, and don't give me the Washington Monument crap argument either! Have fun when we sweep you pricks and end your worthlessness

Posted by: Washington Wizzer | April 23, 2008 9:49 PM

Everyone in washington is whining because cleveland is simply better than you and we knocked you guys out of the first round the past two and now its going to be three in a row you guys shouldnt even go to the game tomorrow just stay home and watch the nationals play cuz they have a better chance at winning than ur shi tty wizards

Posted by: ClevelandForLife | April 23, 2008 10:17 PM

Michael Wilbon? PLEASE! After Sean Taylor was murdered, he wrote trash about him in an article and during his chat. All the while stating that he did not know Sean or even follow the NFL. Based his idiotic reporting on things that had happened to Sean YEARS ago.

But did he apologize when the truth came out that Sean's murder was the result of a robbery? NOPE. He lost me as a reader forever after that. His opinion is ZILCH.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2008 10:17 PM

Wizards fans and writers are dumb he said some of the hard fouls came from the cavs and used lebron elbowing blache as an example.. there wasnt even a foul called

Posted by: Robby | April 23, 2008 10:32 PM

My city sucks. All my teams suck. Not 1 of them could win a Championship in the last 50 years. Our city is so pathetic that even our football team left us. Because we don't know what it's like to win a Championship, we gloat about a 2-0 series lead. What else can we gloat about? Can we please blog on your site? Our city is too pathetic!!

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 23, 2008 10:42 PM

Oh I didn't say Wilbon wasn't biased because we all have bias no matter what field we're in. I'm just sayign that Wilbon, though he picked the Wizards in 6, still was able to give the Cavs high praise on PTI for how they won game 2.

It just isn't something I have seen on Washington Post really...praise when a team just outplays you. I know people argue about the refs and that's always going to be a factor...but they make it sound like the Cavs are not a good team- they only are good because Lebron cheats and Stern loves the Cavs and yadda yadday, which isn't true.

I'll be the first to say the Wixards are good team- they wouldn't have gotten into the 5th seed with all their injuries unless they were talented. I just feel that a lot of writers and fans of the Wizards and in the D.C. area just want to belittle the Cavs efforts rather than show them any good tidings for a game well played. As much as I hate the Spurs, I gave them a ton of praise for knocking us into our place last year. And I'm not saying all Wizards fans are ignorant and vapid...it just seems like a lot of them are and it makes it tough to just talk basketball.

Posted by: | April 23, 2008 9:31 PM

yeah, certainly a lot of Wizards fans are letting their emotions talk for them, rather than common sense. it's hard to read the posts here and NOT roll my eyes from time to time.

i think mike brown has gone a little over the top complaining about the wizards physical play, but the cavs certainly deserve credit for their 2-0 lead. right now they're the better team.

i moved to philadelphia recently and it was interesting watching the caps-flyers series on philadelphia cable tv. the commentators at times came across as some of the most biased i've seen. other times they were fine. but it made me wonder how much their perspectives are influenced by covering the flyers for a living. they give play-by-play every game, they develop relationships with the players, they are paid to entertain the flyers-fanatics, etc. that probably does a lot to explain the nature of their commentary.

one thing about Wilbon is his specific position as a journalist makes it a little easier for him to step back and consider the big picture. in any case, i haven't been that turned off by the washington post reporting on the wizards-cavs game. it became obvious to me a while ago that ivan carter is an actual fan of the wizards, which i don't think is a bad thing (i'm sure it makes his job more fun). if you read today's online chat about the wizards i think you'll hear some good, constructive criticism about the way the wizards have played. i'm not sure carter or lee go out of their way to ever praise the cavaliers, but they're still just trying to help wizards fans figure out what the hell's happening to their team!

nonetheless, i do see your point. the number of wizards fans (including journalists) that are able to suspend their emotional ties to their team and give the cavs credit where it's due seems depressingly small! (i won't give up on the wizards until they pick up their fourth loss though)

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | April 23, 2008 10:52 PM

I'm a pathetic Cleveland Fan. Can I please post on your blog? It's the only we can feel good about ourselves and city. We get happy about small accomplishments such as a 2-0 series lead to over compensate for the fact that our pathetic city hasn't been able to win ANY sports Championships. I hope you understand. You will be seeing us around your blog a whole lot, we got 50 years to make up.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 23, 2008 11:10 PM

Hello all this is da real LeTravel James. Please take a look at my highlight. I defi any of u to find a player sweet as myself who can get away with two, yes 2 violations in 1 play! and turn it into a highligh real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH73R9GIbXg

Posted by: LeTravel | April 23, 2008 11:23 PM

First of all, to bring up the point that Washington has won a championship and Cleveland has not, does not really apply here. That was in a different generation of basketball, most notably, the absence of LeBron James. The Cavs are a team built for the playoffs and LeBron knows that very well. He has rallied his troops behind him and he knows what time it is. Take care of business on the court, and let your game speak for itself. LeBron wants to win a championship so bad in Cleveland, and he is instilling that killer mindset into the rest of his teammates.

Also, I was at the game in the Q in '06 when LeBron hit the game winning lay-up driving down the baseline. The arena was going absolutely insane and the excitement carried out into the streets of downtown Cleveland, just like when Cleveland beat Detroit in the ECF last season. To measure a team's fan support on silly blogs from local newspapers just does not make sense. Cleveland has one of the most passionate fan bases in the nation for all of their sports teams! We love them through the good times and hard times, and over the years, there has defnitely been more hard times than good.

So with that, I look forward to a great Game 3 on Thursday night in Washington. Should be another physical battle out on the court. Go Cavs! Rise Up.

Posted by: Zach | April 23, 2008 11:37 PM

Maybe EJ will coach in game 3.How can a team come on the floor in a playoff game and play so uninspired as the Wiz did in game 2? Not very well coached thats how.All the talk about the Wiz not having a full compliment of players during the season, thus impacting the teams performance in the playoffs,that's inexcusable.Other teams had injuries and continued to succeed because the coach new how to take make adjustments with his players.remember how far the Wiz advanced in the playoffs when they had a full compliment of players in previous years under Ej.If you don't play defense at key times,you dribble across half court and take along j without running the ofense,and the coach tolerates it night in and night out,that is a sure perscription for a quick exit from the playoffs.I Have been a WIZ/BULLETs fan since 1966 and will continue to support them,but its tough to watch talent being improperly used. Come on EJ u have to see that u are not guiding this ship in a positive way.Just getting to the playoffs is notgood enough yearly.Figure out a way as coach how to win .The fans deserve it. The players deserve it.

Posted by: foots | April 23, 2008 11:58 PM

i love how these washington fans get on cavs fans about grammar. We are talking about basketball here, my god, doe it really matter that much? Typical washington fans, always looking to make an excuse about somebody else. Have fun goin' fishing.

Whos overrated?

Posted by: hahahah | April 23, 2008 9:32 PM

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Well if it doe not matter to you, I guess it doe not matter to me. And there you have your average person from Cleveland. Good for you Hahahah, you don't let being retarded stand in the way of living your life. Bravo young man.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 12:12 AM

I'm defensive? I am sorry, I was just trying to defend what was said about me, that is all. As for rgz, I understand, in part, what you are saying. I wasn't even disagreeing with what was in this article exactly, just about it was written. The article, whether it was a blog or not, is a Washington Post article. Not to sound crass or anything, but you learn as a journalist that you need to be objective to be respected. I guess you don't need to be if you're a D.C. area journalist. I apologize for offending anyone, thought it seems everyone seems to be a little testy against the things I wrote that aren't even that negative. Oh well, I guess when you cheer for a team that is known across the NBA and nearly the whole world of sports now for talking a big game, it is no surprise your fans follow suit.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 23, 2008 5:24 PM


1. There is no chance you are a journalist working for any type of publication that anyone outside of your mom's basement would read. Your posts are sloppy, lazy, not well thought out and riddled with typos and grammatical errors. My 2nd grader is a better journalist than you are.

2. You are a holier than thou, sanctimonious sack of gas. Your posturing and lecturing is laughable. Who died and made you Ben Bradlee?

3. 100% chance you are just another Cleveland troll, telling yourself how much Lebron loves your sad little city; thinly disguising your umbrage for The Post as just another missive in the "defense of the queen" campaign.

4. Newsflash for you Cleveland fans, Lebron does not care about you. He does not care about Cleveland. He wears a YANKEES hat to an Indian playoff game. He will opt out, go to New York and every time he comes to Cleveland, he will take great pleasure in stomping your starless and irrelevant team into the ground, His return to Cleveland, as a New York Knick, will feature a Drama Queen masterpiece, replete with whining, crying, flopping, taunting and nail biting, while you and all the rest of your bandwagon fans, will slide back into obscurity where you belong.

Posted by: Spare Me! | April 24, 2008 12:16 AM

1. There is no chance you are a journalist working for any type of publication that anyone outside of your mom's basement would read. Your posts are sloppy, lazy, not well thought out and riddled with typos and grammatical errors. My 2nd grader is a better journalist than you are.

2. You are a holier than thou, sanctimonious sack of gas. Your posturing and lecturing is laughable. Who died and made you Ben Bradlee?

3. 100% chance you are just another Cleveland troll, telling yourself how much Lebron loves your sad little city; thinly disguising your umbrage for The Post as just another missive in the "defense of the queen" campaign.

4. Newsflash for you Cleveland fans, Lebron does not care about you. He does not care about Cleveland. He wears a YANKEES hat to an Indian playoff game. He will opt out, go to New York and every time he comes to Cleveland, he will take great pleasure in stomping your starless and irrelevant team into the ground, His return to Cleveland, as a New York Knick, will feature a Drama Queen masterpiece, replete with whining, crying, flopping, taunting and nail biting, while you and all the rest of your bandwagon fans, will slide back into obscurity where you belong.


Posted by: Spare Me! | April 24, 2008 12:16 AM

Ha ha ha...I am sorry that I got yor panties all in a bunch sir or madam. I was simply on here to make a point about the Washington Post, not even about the Washington Wizards. I did not expect to be accosted by Wizards fans like you who just need to get angry to make yourselves feel better. I am a journalist and I am sorry I did not take my posts seriously. But, like I mentioned before, if you would like to see my credentials, my transcripts or my clips, I might be able to give them to you if it will make you smile. Your hate speech does nothing to me because I feel that, if getting angry and trading dishing out small and ignorant remarks makes you feel better about your team and life, then you should do it. I just came on here to post my comment on message board for a newspaper about the newspaper, but got into a basketball discussion because that's how it went. I was going to come back and spout things about your post and all, but I figured I wouldn't. Why do I need to? I know I'm a journalist and I'm sorry if that upsets you. I'm also a happy person that doesn't need to go down to your level and I don't even mean that in a mean way, it's just the truth. So have a good day and I hope that you can find something other than trying to slam someone for trying to make a point on a news website to get your jollies off. Have a good night.


As for Posted by: Johnnie Futbol- thank you. You proved to me, as I assumed, there a few decently intelligent Wizards fans out there who will actually talk to you and not just say mean things to try and hurt your feelings. Good luck to your team, I know it will be a tough game coming to your home court. It should be a good one and that's what makes playoff basketball great. I hope, if I ever post on another team's message board (or a paper in their town in this case) I am able to talk to a level-headed person like you. A goodnight to you as well.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 24, 2008 12:38 AM

Real classy Washington---You guys have shown exemplary professionalism on and off the court; everyone should take a lesson from you. The way you guys mention everything that has affected your play except the fact that you guys aren't really playing well; that's great stuff. The way you guys only mentioned one of your hard fouls, and not the one that Haywood did on LeBron, which by the way is why we are even having this discussion. Look at the tape and see if it was intentional or not. Stop kidding yourselves. You guys are pathetic; grow up!

Posted by: Marcus (throw the hammer down) | April 24, 2008 1:17 AM

A lot of you mention our city being pathetic. Who has the worst crime rate? And we are not boasting about a 2-0 series, we are boasting about beating you guys two yrs in a row (and probably 3 years), plus 2 games in a row. Its also funny that you guys talk about Cleveland because they haven't won any championships since the browns a long time ago, but that still doesn't stop you guys from losing to us; how about that? So what other excuses do you guys have? Because now they are rolling over to my city, which has nothing to do with the game. You guys are so pathetic. I have been to Washington and I enjoyed it . . .however, it is obvious that I didn't meet any of you on here, because you all are just pathetic.

Posted by: A real fan: Cleveland Fan | April 24, 2008 1:30 AM

Real classy Washington---You guys have shown exemplary professionalism on and off the court; everyone should take a lesson from you. The way you guys mention everything that has affected your play except the fact that you guys aren't really playing well; that's great stuff. The way you guys only mentioned one of your hard fouls, and not the one that Haywood did on LeBron, which by the way is why we are even having this discussion. Look at the tape and see if it was intentional or not. Stop kidding yourselves. You guys are pathetic; grow up!

Posted by: Marcus (throw the hammer down) | April 24, 2008 1:17 AM


I wish I can look at the tape of when the Drought started, but it was so long ago they didn't have tapes back then.

Posted by: Marcus (throw the hammer down) | April 24, 2008 1:41 AM

A lot of you mention our city being pathetic. Who has the worst crime rate? And we are not boasting about a 2-0 series, we are boasting about beating you guys two yrs in a row (and probably 3 years), plus 2 games in a row. Its also funny that you guys talk about Cleveland because they haven't won any championships since the browns a long time ago, but that still doesn't stop you guys from losing to us; how about that? So what other excuses do you guys have? Because now they are rolling over to my city, which has nothing to do with the game. You guys are so pathetic. I have been to Washington and I enjoyed it . . .however, it is obvious that I didn't meet any of you on here, because you all are just pathetic.

Posted by: A real fan: Cleveland Fan | April 24, 2008 1:30 AM


I enjoyed Washington because they have numerous championships in the last 50 years, unlike our pathetic city. Wouldn't you hate it here if your city is so pathetic that all you can do is post on other city's websites since none of our teams can end the long drought.

The drought has gotten so bad that we really try to make ourselves believe we are happy with beating a team 2 years in a row, instead of winning a Championship in the last 50 years. CLEVELAND ROCKS! CLEVELAND ROCKS! I mean....CLEVELAND SUCKS! CLEVELAND SUCKS! CLEVELAND SUCKS!

Posted by: A real fan: Cleveland Fan | April 24, 2008 1:47 AM

Just take accountability for your own poor play. I mean, jesus, in this thread people are whining about:

Lebron's travelling
Mike Brown walking onto the court
Mike Brown talking to the refs
Mike Brown slapping the table in a post-game conference
Hard fouls from Varejaeo
Hard fouls from Devin Brown
Hard fouls from Delonte West
Haywood's Ejection
Haywood's flagrant foul
Refs favoring Lebron
The NBA favoring Lebron

Jesus, just shut up and play the game. You're losing because you're focusing on all of this auxilliary stuff, and no one is really willing to admit that they're just getting flat-out out-played. Maybe if the refs stop favoring Lebron, you can lose by 20 instead of 30 next game. Maybe if you actually focus on the game, you'll get out of the first round sometime this millenium.

Posted by: ooooooo | April 24, 2008 2:21 AM

Just take accountability for your own poor play. I mean, jesus, in this thread people are whining about:

Lebron's travelling
Mike Brown walking onto the court
Mike Brown talking to the refs
Mike Brown slapping the table in a post-game conference
Hard fouls from Varejaeo
Hard fouls from Devin Brown
Hard fouls from Delonte West
Haywood's Ejection
Haywood's flagrant foul
Refs favoring Lebron
The NBA favoring Lebron

Jesus, just shut up and play the game. You're losing because you're focusing on all of this auxilliary stuff, and no one is really willing to admit that they're just getting flat-out out-played. Maybe if the refs stop favoring Lebron, you can lose by 20 instead of 30 next game. Maybe if you actually focus on the game, you'll get out of the first round sometime this millenium.

Posted by: ooooooo | April 24, 2008 2:21 AM

Maybe if our city wasn't so pathetic we wouldn't post on other team's forums, even though none of our Cleveland Teams haven't won sh1t in the last 50 years.

Oh and I forgot about your team making it out of the 1st round this millenim when Arenas hit that game winner to advance past the Bulls after going donw 0-2 in the series. But since your city has multiple championships by multiple teams, we weren't suprised when you dind't gloat about advancing to the next round. Unlike our pathetic city, you have high standards and aren't content with non-championship years.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 24, 2008 2:44 AM

Ha ha ha...I am sorry that I got yor panties all in a bunch sir or madam. I was simply on here to make a point about the Washington Post, not even about the Washington Wizards. I did not expect to be accosted by Wizards fans like you who just need to get angry to make yourselves feel better. I am a journalist and I am sorry I did not take my posts seriously. But, like I mentioned before, if you would like to see my credentials, my transcripts or my clips, I might be able to give them to you if it will make you smile. Your hate speech does nothing to me because I feel that, if getting angry and trading dishing out small and ignorant remarks makes you feel better about your team and life, then you should do it. I just came on here to post my comment on message board for a newspaper about the newspaper, but got into a basketball discussion because that's how it went. I was going to come back and spout things about your post and all, but I figured I wouldn't. Why do I need to? I know I'm a journalist and I'm sorry if that upsets you. I'm also a happy person that doesn't need to go down to your level and I don't even mean that in a mean way, it's just the truth. So have a good day and I hope that you can find something other than trying to slam someone for trying to make a point on a news website to get your jollies off. Have a good night.


Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 24, 2008 12:38 AM


This is without a doubt, the most pathetically insecure drivel I have ever read in my life. Why are you spouting about credentials on a Wizards Blog? Nobody believes you and nobody cares! If you were a real journalist, and had an issue with The Post, you would use your numeerous contacts and send a letter to the editor or just call him on the phone. A real jouralist would not rant on with with some mindless babble, on a Wizards Blog. If you are a journalist, you're incredibly unprofessional and and an embarrasment. If you're not a journalist and just another bored cleveland fan - please quit pretendig to be someone else and get a life.

Posted by: Laughing out loud | April 24, 2008 8:43 AM

hey wizards fans cry all you want but in the end whos down 0-2? ya thats right those cry babies from DC

Posted by: ryan | April 24, 2008 8:55 AM

Cavs fans won't stop crying about how Wizards fans won't stop crying.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 9:12 AM

Here is how I see it. Cleveland fans are getting under every one's skin. GOOD!!! They should be, they have nothing else to do. The Cavs are up 2-0 (which means they are half way to the second round). Wow, impressive. My point is this: If the Wiz had won game 1 (which they should have) or swept in Cleveland, they would be crying about how LeBron is getting killed and blah blah blah. Mike Brown would still be whining about protecting his superstar, slamming his fist for emphasis. That is what would have happened if they lost the first 2. Sounds familiar right? It should, because it's exactly what is happening now. I think Mike Brown has to keep his "edge" because they know this isn't over. I can't wait to hear his complaints once they lose 2 games is DC. How much worse can he get? He's already conducted himself like his team is losing!

With all that said, all the Cleveland fans who will read this and say I'm ignoring the point, just wait.

The Wizards have been outplayed drastically thus far (and we still should have won game 1) but that means little. We have proved all year that getting blown out does not effect us negatively the next time out. Surely, if we do not improve our play, we will be swept. However, the chances of our team continuing to play as bad as we have so far are very slim. About as slim as the Cavs bench.

Posted by: DC The Kid | April 24, 2008 10:21 AM

Brenda Haywood is really tough out there. She did the same thing last year, in that she tried to physically injure LeBron - remember the inappropriate closeline?

How do you Washington fans justify a two hand lateral thrust on a guy trying to make a basket?

Why not just body LeBron up and act like you are trying to block the shot?Undercutting is for CYO basketball.

And, E. Jordan needs to criticize his foolish players, and not anybody else.

By the way, the soft players watch the tough players play. You think Dwayne Wade could have taken the beating that LeBron is getting? How about Larry Hughes?

Nope not a chance. LeBron is not a train, he is a tank.

Posted by: L Train | April 24, 2008 10:41 AM

Well if he's a tough tank, then he should at least be able to handle a two hand lateral thrust from a guy called Brenda, right?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 10:46 AM

L Train, what does this mean?

"By the way, the soft players watch the tough players play. You think Dwayne Wade could have taken the beating that LeBron is getting? How about Larry Hughes?"

I don't see the correlation.

Anyway, you are right about EJ, he should be all over his players, and I bet that he is; only he does it behind doors. Which is what he should do. However, if you hold EJ to that standard, hold Mike Browntown to the exact same standard.

Posted by: DC The Kid | April 24, 2008 11:04 AM

This is without a doubt, the most pathetically insecure drivel I have ever read in my life. Why are you spouting about credentials on a Wizards Blog? Nobody believes you and nobody cares! If you were a real journalist, and had an issue with The Post, you would use your numeerous contacts and send a letter to the editor or just call him on the phone. A real jouralist would not rant on with with some mindless babble, on a Wizards Blog. If you are a journalist, you're incredibly unprofessional and and an embarrasment. If you're not a journalist and just another bored cleveland fan - please quit pretendig to be someone else and get a life.

Posted by: Laughing out loud | April 24, 2008 8:43


Ha ha ha...well I'm sorry if I offended you. I do not believe I ever spouted my credentials anywhere. If anything, I simply mentioned my job because people were trying to call me out. As for the whole thing about using my numerous contacts, just because I'm a journalist does not mean I have a connection at the Washington Post friend ;). And on a final note, "the most pathetically insecure drivel I have ever read in my life"- if I'm pathetically insecure and sputing nonsensical drivel as you put it...why are yout he one becoming so defensive? I believe that, with all the needless ridicule I have gbeen shown, I have never lost my cool or spout any type of angery banter to the people on here. But if it makes you feel good, feel free to say what you feel- that's your right :). Have a good day.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 24, 2008 11:20 AM


Ha ha ha...well I'm sorry if I offended you. I do not believe I ever spouted my credentials anywhere. If anything, I simply mentioned my job because people were trying to call me out. As for the whole thing about using my numerous contacts, just because I'm a journalist does not mean I have a connection at the Washington Post friend ;). And on a final note, "the most pathetically insecure drivel I have ever read in my life"- if I'm pathetically insecure and sputing nonsensical drivel as you put it...why are yout he one becoming so defensive? I believe that, with all the needless ridicule I have gbeen shown, I have never lost my cool or spout any type of angery banter to the people on here. But if it makes you feel good, feel free to say what you feel- that's your right :). Have a good day.

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 24, 2008 11:20 AM

You are only 1 of 2 things, an incredibly immature, inappropriate, unprofessional journalist or an infantile Cleveland fan flaming on a Wizards message board, either way you are an utter embarrassment. Just stop posting.

Posted by: Laughing out loud | April 24, 2008 1:39 PM

Oh and I forgot about your team making it out of the 1st round this millenim when Arenas hit that game winner to advance past the Bulls after going donw 0-2 in the series. But since your city has multiple championships by multiple teams, we weren't suprised when you dind't gloat about advancing to the next round. Unlike our pathetic city, you have high standards and aren't content with non-championship years.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 24, 2008 2:44 AM

Yes - and in 1977 the Washington Bullets won the championship. In 1914 Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assinated. And in 1492 America was discovered by Columbus.

What a cute little history lesson "Cleveland fan." Guess what? You're season is over. You're about to get beat in the first round by the same team for three years in a row. Stop preaching about ancient history and enjoy the off-season.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 2:24 PM

Oh and I forgot about your team making it out of the 1st round this millenim when Arenas hit that game winner to advance past the Bulls after going donw 0-2 in the series. But since your city has multiple championships by multiple teams, we weren't suprised when you dind't gloat about advancing to the next round. Unlike our pathetic city, you have high standards and aren't content with non-championship years.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 24, 2008 2:44 AM

Yes - and in 1977 the Washington Bullets won the championship. In 1914 Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assinated. And in 1492 America was discovered by Columbus.

What a cute little history lesson "Cleveland fan." Guess what? You're season is over. You're about to get beat in the first round by the same team for three years in a row. Stop preaching about ancient history and enjoy the off-season.

Posted by: | April 24, 2008 2:24 PM

We're about to go another season without a Championship in Cleveland again. I guess the History lesson will go on forever.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 24, 2008 2:50 PM

You are only 1 of 2 things, an incredibly immature, inappropriate, unprofessional journalist or an infantile Cleveland fan flaming on a Wizards message board, either way you are an utter embarrassment. Just stop posting.


Posted by: Laughing out loud | April 24, 2008 1:39 PM

Ha ha...I guess I must be an immature, infantile, unprofessional journalist then- at least in your eyes. Once again, I apologize that I ruined your day with my simple comment about the way articles on the Washington Post are written. I never started attacking your basketball team or sounding like a moron telling you "We're up 2-0...you suck, you suck, you suck!". I simply made a point about how the articles were slanted. I hope you have a good day and that my infantile postings have not done enough to ruin your time on this website or on this Earth. :)

Posted by: For the sake of journalism | April 24, 2008 3:33 PM

Excuses, excuses. I guess after figuring out that they can't stop LeBron, and then finding out they can't hurt him either with cheap shots, now the Wizards organization, fans, and media turn to their last crutch - EXCUSES - namely injury excuses and of course, claims that the game is not being called fairly (the most common argument for LeBron haters that have nothing else to turn to).

Eddie Jordan and several Wizards players said rather publicly before and during this series how they were going to foul LeBron hard, punish him, and not allow him to get easy baskets. Now that they are predictably racking up the fouls (after all, wasn't that the gameplan?), everyone wants to complain that the officiating is one-sided? Please, your whole team said they were going to bully the Cavs and foul them hard to prevent easy baskets (which is totally out of character for the normally soft Wizards). Now that the Cavs are also playing physical and punching right back, the Wizards have no back-up plan other than to whine and complain about officiating.

If all goes according to plan and the NBA refs respond to all the crying coming out of DC, I suspect LeBron will have at least 2 suspect charge calls and perhaps a few travelling calls thrown in for good measure in Game 3. If thats not enough for the Wizards to win, what excuse comes next? Are the Wizards team/fans/media going to publicly dispute his age now? Or claim that he's on steroids or something? I guess you can always turn to the whole "the NBA wants LeBron to win" excuse - that seems to be a favorite among the whole delusional Washington DC basketball community.

Posted by: Wizard Whiners | April 24, 2008 4:28 PM

What's your city's excuse for not being able to win a championship in any sport for the last 40 years? Bad owners? Bad luck? Inability to sign free agents because your city smells really bad?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 4:58 PM

I love how Wizzers fans try to bring up Cleveland's lack of championships as a retort to their recent failures, blow-outs, and first round sweeps.

here's how the dialogue goes:

Wizzer: "Mike Brown talks too much! Haywood shouldn't have gotten ejected! Lebron traveled! wha-wha-wha"

Cleveland: "That's nice - but, you know, it seems like you're making alot of excuses when perhaps you should be focusing on your team's overall poor play, and how you can fix that."

Wizzer: "We won a championship thirty years ago! Cleveland hasn't won anything!"

Cleveland: "Congratualtions on your championship from over thirty years ago. But, you know, it looks like you're about to be eliminated in the first round for the third straight year in a row."

Wizzer: "Cleveland isn't going to win the championship this year. So, you know, you are the true losers!"

Enjoy the early exit, kids. But, of course, you're used to it.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 6:29 PM

Thats fine. But please explain the elitist attitude that most Cavs fans seem to have. What have the Cavs won, lately or ever?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 7:37 PM

Boo Hoo! Please dont bring up the past about how we havent won any titles. Its not fair. Boo Hoo! Its not fair to bring up the past. Hey you Wizards fans remember in the past when we beat you guys in the playoffs?

Posted by: Average Cleveland Moron | April 24, 2008 8:03 PM

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