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Key fourth quarter

A terrific fourth quarter that featured crisp passing and some great defense (and poor Philadelphia offense) were the keys to a 109-93 win over the 76ers tonight. The Wizards, who ensured that they can finish no lower than 6th with tonight's win, outscored Philly 31-9 in the fourth.

-Gilbert Arenas played his best all-around game since Nov. 16 which was also the last time he played before missing 66 games. He was monster in the fourth quarter when he scored 12 of his 20 points and racked up three of his five assists.

Mo Cheeks on Arenas: "He lives for the moment and knowing this game was going to be big, we knew he'd be ready. He delivered."

-Arenas opened the quarter by making three straight shots, including a 3 but it was his passing that became contagious. The Wiz finished with 8 assists in the fourth while holding the 76ers to one made field goal.

-Coach Eddie Jordan said he doesn't expect that Butler's bruised right knee will be a prolonged issue. No practice tomorrow so we won't know much until Monday.

-If Toronto loses tomorrow to Detroit or if the Wiz beat Indiana Monday night, the Wiz can clinch no worse than the fifth seed.

By Ivan Carter  |  April 12, 2008; 10:47 PM ET
 
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Great win - Gilbert being himself - with him they can run with anyone - Antwan had no shot early and hasn't for some time. Needs to get going before he can score. Much better than Detroit where they got beat up.

Posted by: Bridgewater | April 12, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

IVAN I TOLD U AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT ARENAS WAS TOP 5. PEOPLE DISAGREED AND NOW HE'S GOING TO SHOW THE HATERS IN THE PLAYOFFS.

1. Chris Paul
2. Kobe
3. Lebron
4. Amare (Ivan's pick)
5. Arenas

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 12, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

BTW how are your folks?

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 12, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see the game or last night's blowout on M-59, but it sounds like the team is especially more dangerous now (even after taking the first three quarters into consideration) -- those who played in Gilbert's absence have experience and defenders don't know whether Gil is going to pass or shoot, so he and everybody else becomes harder to stop.

Now I only hope Caron gets his knee back right and everybody STAYS HEALTHY. If that happens and the team plays passable D (they're rotating better but need to challenge threes and close down the lane more frequently) with the back-to-backs no longer being an issue this season, it may very well be time to make some noise.

Posted by: iceberg | April 12, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Okay, the Palace is not on M-59, but a few miles away off I-75. My bad. But the team got blown out so badly last night they must have landed on M-59.

Posted by: iceberg | April 12, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they can get by Indiana without Caron and then he can sit the Orlando game and get a whole week off before the playoff opener in Cleveland or Orlando.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 12, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I went to the game. Philly really ran the Wiz in the first half. I was afraid the Wiz were just going to run out of gas, but they closed nicely at the end of the first half with AD taking control. For a short while he looked like the best player on the floor. He really saved them in first half. And cant say enough about GA flipping a swith late in the 4th quarter. EJ knew something because he only played him about 9 min in the first half. We saw a flash of the allstar during that late 4th quarter...I knew we would be ok, when I saw that old GA smile light up after hit his second jumper during that series. I also think EJ used DMac very well tonight. He needed him with CB out and got all he could out of him. DMac almost sank a couple of times but treaded just enough water and had another impressive block to keep the Wiz competitive while he was in. DSteve is starting to get automatic with late game 3s. Very sweet indeed. Also a funny moment, in the arena during the third quarther during a timeout the camera always searches through the crowd with its "Kiss Cam" zooming in on cute couples and getting them to smooch and the crowd cheers and laughs. Well at one point they zoomed in on Calvin Booth (who is now a 76er) sitting on the bench next to the 76er with the pony-tail. They made a cute couple, didnt kiss and jumped out of their seats...it had the crowd cheering.

Posted by: oddjob | April 12, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Gilby - I have a chubby!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 12, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Wayne, and where was your top 5 player when Les BouleS lost to the Bucks (lottery bound), and a few days ago against the Pistons?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Man, what a luxury to have a superstar closer like Arenas!!! I think he is finally getting into shape, getting his wind and his legs. He basically took over in the 4th qtr and put the team on his back like the old days.

You know the days that the haters forget. The days that he was 100% healthy, along with Jamison and Butler and they were the #1 team in the East.

I still can't believe how many Wiz fans are Arenas haters. It's just ridiculous. Maybe they aren't really wiz fans, and act like it just to put down our Franchise Player, hoping he won't get re-signed. If I didn't have a life I would do the same. Go on the Cav's site and hate on LeTravel.

What many people don't realize is all the other factors Arenas brings to the game besides scoring. He gets the crowd going. The Wiz home crowd is said to be lame, but not when Arenas electrifies the home crowd. It gives them momentum. The crowd makes a difference. He draws attention, about 2-3 defenders and makes it easier for his teammates.

He even played great D in this game. For some of the haters, just so you know Arenas played just about the whole 4th qtr. The 4th qtr where the 76ers only made 1 FG and only scored 9 pts. I'm not saying Arenas is a great defender but he's not as bad as he's made out to be.

Plus, man was the ball moving so smoothly when Arenas was in there. After he hit a few clutch shots, all the defenders were shading him, which is why we got so many easy baskets (created by Arenas).

I'm not taking anything away from the rest of the Wiz. Butler, Jamison, and Arenas are and will be equally important in the playoffs, in different ways. Butler brings toughness and Defense, Jamison brings consistency, and Arenas brings the excitement and is the closer.

Big ups to the bench tonight too.

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 13, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

I was at the game and the look on two of the 76ers players when Gilbert hit that three from what seemed like 30 feet in the fourth quarter ... you knew they knew the game was over and there was still like six minutes to go. I don't remember which player it was, but one of them just rolled his eyes seemingly saying 'no way he just hit that, we're done'

Posted by: Dave | April 13, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and as I said previously, that behind the back move was just amazing. Street ball sick. I couldn't believe he stopped, changed direction, and put the ball behind his back in a tight space between 2 defenders so fast. I jumped out my seat and almost sprained my ankle.

Although, the move was great I just knew he was going to miss the lay up or get it blocked, but he finished it off well. I hope it's on Sportscenters top plays.

BIG time players make BIG time plays in Big Games!

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 13, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Great effort by Gilbert. The only person dissapointed by tonite's performance would be DC Man88. Maybe his bash "Gilby" shtick won't get too much play the next few days.

Posted by: Dat2U | April 13, 2008 4:06 AM | Report abuse

Time for Operation Shutdown. I don't want to see Butler until the playoffs. Time to get Jamison and Stevenson some rest too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Bangladesh, I agree with you. Maybe there are a lot of people hoping that Gil will think the fans here don't like him and he will sign with their teams. But, the bottom line is this, regardless of what the people on here post about Gil, this post does not represent the whole city and how it feels. WE LOVE GIL AND THE WIZ! GREAT GAME, GREAT WIN LAST NIGHT GENTLEMEN! Now, lets keep up the momentum and put one on Indiana and Orlando. As for the Gil haters,hate on because Gil is peaking at just the right time. Loved his blog by the way.

Also, I think it is great when players from other professional teams in the area support one another. There were Caps at the game and you will find Jason Campbell at games as well. I heard a few of the Wiz players talking about going to the Hockey game today to support the Caps.For a couple of them, it will be their first hockey game. What a town! GO DC SPORTS! GO CAPS! GO WIZ! GO NATS! Last but not least, Gil...........WELCOME BACK! WELCOME BACK!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Time for Operation Shutdown. I don't want to see Butler until the playoffs. Time to get Jamison and Stevenson some rest too.

Posted by: | April 13, 2008 7:47 AM

Anon, we need to clinch 5 first. We don't want to face Detroit until the Conference Finals. Going through Cleveland and Boston is our best hope to make it that far.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

DCMAN88, it takes time to come back from an injury like that. Amare basically took a whole year to get back in shape so did Caron. So for me to see Arenas take over in the 4th gives me a glimmer of hope that he can do it this year. 2 knee orthoscopics in 1 year and you see him attack the basket the way he did and shoot the way he did makes you think we can get it done.

PLUS HE CAN PASS NOW, which will give defenders a fit. If you double he will find the open man like he did Jamison and if you play him one on one he will kill you like he did Miller and Evans. He has great numbers for the limited time he has. Yes we lost to the Pistons and Lottery bound Bucks but we won a MUST WIN game last night. Arenas showed his ass with that 3.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 13, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Wayne for Bowie, if you post here, you will soon learn to just ignore some posters here. They are anti-Gil and anti-Wiz and trying to reason with or carry on a genial basketball conversation is not going to happen. You will only open yourself up to a lot of verbal blasting. Especially if you are a Gil fan. So don't waste your time. Great post though and yes it was a great win and good performance by Gil. Hopefully last night will give him a little more confidence and he will be firing on all cylinders by time the playoffs get here.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Decent game.Great 4th quarter. We were looking a little slow through three quarters and could have been out of it had it not been for AD and Stevenson. Good D in the half court for the most part, but still need to work on finding shooters early and shutting them down. Andre Iguodala was making it rain on us. And of course transition D, way too many fast break points. Solid game for AJ, and Dmac was good. Gil took some early shots and made a few careless TOs. But really didn't force anything until he found his shot and his wind and put the game away. I think CB should sit these next 2 games and if Indy loses today, so should anybody else who needs it. I know we can still get 4th but staying healthy is more important.

Posted by: pope | April 13, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

With all the comments about Arenas, and the 4th quarter offense; very little was said about the Wizards defense...

The 76'ers couldn't get out and run because the Wizards were very efficient scoring the ball; but the Wiz also played some smart Defense in the 4th. Songaila especially looked good, rotating, cutting off the pick-and-roll, and grabbing defensive boards. And, even though nothing really shows up on the stats, I liked McGuire's effort as well.

Another thing that has not been discussed is the 76'er press. When they got behind in the 4th, they started to go to their full-court press, but Arenas waived Stevenson down court - essentially telling him "go ahead, I got this".... and the 76'ers pulled out of their press. That happened at least 3 times in the 4th; with the 76'ers knowing they wouldn't be able to press Arenas. I think that is an intangible that Arenas brings - the ability to EASILY bring the ball up the court (especially against the press).

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

No mention by any of you big experts and feuders of the Wiz switching in and out of zone-D to help hide Gilbert?

Posted by: joe c | April 13, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I was really impressed with the 76ers transition game - best I've seen since PHX.

It got very predictable - when we missed a shot in the paint...they scored in the next few seconds.

Props to gil for shutting down their transition game by not missing shots.

Posted by: Cballer | April 13, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I'm one of the ones who cant understand all this negativity towards Gilbert either. He's only the biggest sports individual this city has seen in ages (now Ovech is getting national coverage).
He just came back from 2 surgeries, only a few weeks ago we were wondering if he would even be able to make it back. Then all the hate saying he didnt want to come back. He comes back and plays with all his heart and then no appreciation (from some of the haters).
Gilbert coming from someone born/raised here, we DC residents from DC love you! (Of course Caron and Tawn are a given).

Posted by: washingtonian | April 13, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I'm also one of the ones who couldnt understand all the negativity last year towards Tawn. I never saw so many trade scenarios towards him the off season and last year...unreal.

Posted by: washingtonian | April 13, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I just watched highlights on nba.com, and I had to keep rewinding to watch that 3-point bomb with about 2:30 left in the fourth. Arenas was closer to half court than the 3-point line. The Wizards had gone on a 13-to-1 run, and that made it 16. Just an incredible shot - with a hand in his face, no less.

How many players in the league would even consider taking a shot like that? Ray Allen, maybe Michael Redd. Once again, Gilbert shows that he's among the best shooters in the league. Let's hope that his confidence is contagious.

Posted by: satch | April 13, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

did slick nick kick eddies dog or somethin. wtf happened to nick. good work ed. hes only your future.

Posted by: dk | April 13, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

did slick nick kick eddies dog or somethin. wtf happened to nick. good work ed. hes only your future.

Posted by: dk | April 13, 2008 12:03 PM

1. Arenas is back.
2. Eddie is shortening his rotations (8 or 9 guys).
3. Rookies very rarely ever get playing time in a Playoff race.
4. Nick still shows a tendency to play out of control.
5. He does not play defense.
6. Although he can get his own shot one-on-one, he's not as good in the Offensive flow.

Yes, Nick may be the future starting shooting guard for this team, but right now, he's still just a rookie.

Rotations for the Playoff push, and the Playoffs should be:
Starters: Daniels, Stevenson, Butler, Jamison, Haywood
Bench: Arenas, Songaila, Mason, Blatche (in that order)
Blow outs & garbage time: Young, McGuire, Pecherov

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"I just watched highlights on nba.com, and I had to keep rewinding to watch that 3-point bomb with about 2:30 left in the fourth. Arenas was closer to half court than the 3-point line. The Wizards had gone on a 13-to-1 run, and that made it 16. Just an incredible shot - with a hand in his face, no less.

How many players in the league would even consider taking a shot like that? Ray Allen, maybe Michael Redd. Once again, Gilbert shows that he's among the best shooters in the league. Let's hope that his confidence is contagious.

Posted by: satch | April 13, 2008 11:42 AM "

I hope Gilby keeps taking 3 point bombs from almost 1/2 court. It's their key to success in the playoffs.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, I'm one of the ones who cant understand all this negativity towards Gilbert either. He's only the biggest sports individual this city has seen in ages (now Ovech is getting national coverage).
He just came back from 2 surgeries, only a few weeks ago we were wondering if he would even be able to make it back. Then all the hate saying he didnt want to come back. He comes back and plays with all his heart and then no appreciation (from some of the haters).
Gilbert coming from someone born/raised here, we DC residents from DC love you! (Of course Caron and Tawn are a given).

Posted by: washingtonian | April 13, 2008 11:26 AM "

Gilby, in case you just crawled from under a rock, creates a lot of this drama around himself based on the blog that he has maintained, his comments to reporters, and his actions/inactions. As Gilby says...."drama sells."

Therefore, if you want to blame someone, blame the source...Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

"No mention by any of you big experts and feuders of the Wiz switching in and out of zone-D to help hide Gilbert?

Posted by: joe c | April 13, 2008 10:33 AM "

You must have just crawled from under a rock also, because that was what I said in my first comments, that Ayers deserves a lot of credit for this win because he switched to a zone offense when Gilby was in the game, and the results were magnified because the Sixers have absolutely no post offensive presence whatsoever. They have Delambert, a non scoring center, and 2 small forwards in Young and AI.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Pete Maravich and Jerry West used to take shots from that distance, back in the day when you only got two points for it. If you've got the range, it's a good shot. Gil obviously has the range. He launched that shot off a dead stop, without any lean or twisting of his body, just all wrists. Beautiful arc, nothing but net. If he's on a roll like he was last night and somebody gives him that shot, he ought to take it.

Posted by: John Brisker | April 13, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I hope Gilby keeps taking 3 point bombs from almost 1/2 court. It's their key to success in the playoffs.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 12:58 PM

If he's got that kind of touch, I sure as hell hope he does.

Posted by: satch | April 13, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

They played some zone, not to hide Arenas, but because the 76ers have no low post scoring options. They are not a good half court team so, the zone really messed them up.

And I love Arenas' blog. I wish he blogged everyday. No athlete is as honest and entertaining at the same time without alienating any teammates. BLOG ON!!!

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 13, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

FYI - according to ESPN.com, it was a 34 footer.

Posted by: satch | April 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz are now guaranteed no worse than the #5 seed. Personally, I think guys like CB, DS, AD, and AJ could use a game off, even though we have an outside chance at Cleveland, but they play Miami and Detroit (on the last day of the season, no way any of Det's regualar starters play at all)...

Posted by: CN | April 13, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

....with the Pistons beating Toronto just now...

Posted by: CN | April 13, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Therefore, if you want to blame someone, blame the source...Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 1:00 PM

no, I blame it on the one hyping it up and blowing everything way out of proportion...you

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

So, with the Raptor's loss today to the Pistons, the Wizards have clinched no worse than the 5th spot in the Eastern Conference - and still have a shot at the 4th spot and home court in the 1st round.

Cleveland has 3 games left....
At home today against Miami - I assume this will be a Cav's win.

At Philly tomorrow - where the Cavs could have a big problem. (On the road, second game of a back-to-back)

And at home against Detroit in the last game. Not sure what Detroit has left prove, but they've beaten the Wiz AND Philly with nothing to play for; so let's hope they bring their 'A' game to Cleveland.

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm gonna be flipping the channel back and forth between the Cleveland/Philly and Washington/Indiana games tomorrow night....

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

tough juice = DSteve not CB. CB is another oft injured Larry Hughes like individual (except Hughes could play at least some defense).

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

That wasn't me ! Gotta say that DS playing in so many consecutive games while being hurt is pretty impressive and shows his 'tuff'ness, though. At the beginning of the season, I thought that all we needed from him was defense and hitting open shots. Who knew he'd be hitting contested threes, too? !!

Posted by: mark | April 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

While home court would be nice, the Wizards' need a healthy Butler and Stevenson against the Cavaliers, because they are going to be the primary guys to match up with LeBron. I would rather see the Wizards with the 5th seed and those two a little fresher than the 4th seed and those two limping around. Operation Shutdown!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Really, I think the zone defense was put into effect because Philly doesn't shoot well from the outside. The zone that the Wizards play often gives up outside shots. And as a matter of fact, Gilbert has played better defensively since that Milwaukee game.

Posted by: Colin | April 13, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert has played better defensively since that Milwaukee game.

Posted by: Colin | April 13, 2008 6:47 PM

In the first few games back, he was noticeably deficient on Defense; especially on the pick-and-roll, and on switches; which both require lateral movement. He was good at closing out on shooters; which requires forward motion.

In the Philly game, I noticed that his lateral movement was much better - and he played the switches especially well.

I still think he's going to be a bit of a Defensive liability until next year, when that knee is stronger, and he has full confidence in it.

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

RE: While home court would be nice, the Wizards' need a healthy Butler and Stevenson against the Cavaliers, because they are going to be the primary guys to match up with LeBron. I would rather see the Wizards with the 5th seed and those two a little fresher than the 4th seed and those two limping around. Operation Shutdown!


You must understand that Lebron gets super/special/biased officiating, and he gets it no more than in Cleveland its self. I feel that we need to continue playing our guys with their normal minutes untill Cleveland wins two games and locks up that fourth. I feel that Caron should sit out against Indiana, and give that knee some more rest. If we can beat Philly without him, we have a good chance of beating an Indiana team likely out of playoff contention. However, I don't want him rusty in game one against the Cav's next weekend. Also, I feel that Gilbert's minutues will be somewhere between 25-30 minutes in the playoffs. We need to stop committing stupid fouls, because if we get into the penalty early in the playoffs, Lebron will get 20+ freethrows at the line b/c he can get to the line at will. Lets hope that the Heat can some how beat the cav's tonite...if not, lets hope Philly will fight for that 6th seed and give Cavs a good fight tommorow.


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Posted by: rock | April 13, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I concur with the anon poster, does it really matter if the Wizards have the home court vs. Cleveland. Butler, Jamison and Stevenson are dinged up and need a week off before the playoffs.

And now hear this Cleveland fans. You came on here a few weeks back and ran your mouths about how you were going to beat the Wizards again. Well you all better hope the injury bug bites or the refs give you every call, because this Wizards team is going to have its full arsenal this time with a better bench to boot.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 13, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Saunders won't likely play his starters more than half the game against Cleveland, but after what happened in the playoffs last season, I would expect the Pistons to come out and try to put the Cavs down.

Posted by: kalorama | April 13, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I concur with the anon poster, does it really matter if the Wizards have the home court vs. Cleveland. Butler, Jamison and Stevenson are dinged up and need a week off before the playoffs.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 13, 2008 7:40 PM

What does it matter? Four games at Cleveland, where LeTravel will get EVERY call - as opposed to four games at VC, where Jamison, Arenas, and Butler will get the calls.

Yeah, and as poorly as Cleveland is playing right now (they just barely beat the Heat) - it would be a shame to rest everyone Monday - and see the Cavs lose.

If the Wiz rest Stevenson AND Jamison, they may lose to an extremely motivated Pacers team fighting for their Playoff lives.

YES - Rest Butler. Let that knee and wrist heal. Play Stevenson and Jamison. Try to win against Indiana.

If Cleveland wins, then there's no way the Wiz can get 4th - the Wizards can still rest Stevenson and Jamison for the Orlando game. There will be some additional time off between the last regular season game and the first playoff game.

Point is - as long as there's still a chance for the 4th seed, they should go for it.

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

"In the first few games back, he was noticeably deficient on Defense; especially on the pick-and-roll, and on switches; which both require lateral movement. He was good at closing out on shooters; which requires forward motion.

In the Philly game, I noticed that his lateral movement was much better - and he played the switches especially well.

I still think he's going to be a bit of a Defensive liability until next year, when that knee is stronger, and he has full confidence in it.

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 7:14 PM "

You have to credit Ayers for his check mate move to go to a zone in the second half of yesterday's game. When Gilby was in the game, they mostly played zone, which helps in two weak areas.....1. Gilby's defensive deficiencies especially against 1 guards who have scoring abilty, and 2. relieving BTH the responsibility of helping out to double Gilby's man and then rotating back to defend his own man.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

"no, I blame it on the one hyping it up and blowing everything way out of proportion...you

Posted by: | April 13, 2008 3:26 PM "

Blame me all you want...I don't create the news...I just report it, because otherwise, it'd be swept under the rug on this blog.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Also, the Pistons still have a chance to finish with the second best overall record in the league, which would give them home court against whoever wins the West. So they do have something to play for.

Posted by: kalorama | April 13, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Why wasn't Caron at the 76ers game in street clothes? Was he outta town seeing a specialist, getting a scope, or what? Hard to believe he wouldn't be out there on the bench for the second half....

Posted by: Bulletsfan | April 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Good point Rook. Arenas' lateral movement did look much better. I think he his getting his confidence back and his legs back.

But once again, they did not play zone just to hide Arenas. The zone had nothing to do with Arenas. They played zone because Philly does not have low post scorers and as Rook pointed out they are not a very good outside shooter. Iguodola was hot shooting, but in the 4th qtr they closed on him much better and he was off.

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 13, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it looks like Gilby is getting a good workout because he worked up a good sweat. He got a 25 minute workout. I wonder if they will give him more the next game.

And, it was obvious that Ayers called zone D because it helps in covering Gilby's defensive deficiencies, and it also avoids having to call double teams to help Gilby out.

If anyone recalls the first half, the Sixers were running Les BouleS out of the gym when Gilby was in the game, but when Gilby left the game, Les BouleS brought it close up until halftime at 53-57. After the half, that's when Ayer's move to switch to zone D allowed the perimeter defenders to clamp down on AI because there was little fear about their inside game.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Bulletsfan,

Good point about Caron. I was wondering why I didn't see him on the bench either. I assumed maybe I didn't notice him. He was there for the shootaround. Did anyone see him on the bench during that game? It was a home game so you would figure he should have been on the bench.

I'm sure if it was Arenas that was not on the bench the haters would have attacked his character as usual.

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

With regard to Caron, I think he's more hurt than the team is letting on. Since he tweaked his hip/leg in the Detroit game, it's pretty obvious that it's in his interest to rest up, especially when the Philly game was a day after the Detroit game and the team had to take a flight back to DC.

If Caron was able to make it to the game, for sure he would have. Recall last season when he hurt his hand, Caron was at every game, which is more than we can say about others.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

"Blame me all you want...I don't create the news...I just report it, because otherwise, it'd be swept under the rug on this blog.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 8:57 PM"

It's "news" like Lindsey Lohan's next bout with rehab is "news"...you, sir, are the cancer that is killing America

Posted by: Anonymous | April 13, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Also, the Pistons still have a chance to finish with the second best overall record in the league, which would give them home court against whoever wins the West. So they do have something to play for.

Posted by: kalorama | April 13, 2008 9:00 PM
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I made a similar argument last week, alluding to the fact that they might play their regulars more than we think against Philly and us (which they obviously didn't need in a 30+ point victory...). However, they seem very content with their positioning, even though they technically could clinch 2nd best record overall.

I think Caron should sit out tomorrow, but a huge game between Philly & Cleveland tomorrow too. No point in playing Jamison more than 30 or so minutes tomorrow and Gil should stick to his 24 minutes. I know Eddie wants to have his 9 man rotation play, but he can do that through 3 quarters while giving the 7-9 guys (Blatche Songalia, Mason, and DMac: if CB is out) much more time, to allow AJ, DS, AD, and CB to rest.

If Cleveland wins or we lose, they clinch the 4 seed, then obviously Wednesday would be a meaningless game. Get well soon guys, because we have a chance to do some damage this spring...

Posted by: CN | April 13, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Also, the Pistons still have a chance to finish with the second best overall record in the league, which would give them home court against whoever wins the West. So they do have something to play for.

Posted by: kalorama | April 13, 2008 9:00 PM
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I made a similar argument last week, alluding to the fact that they might play their regulars more than we think against Philly and us (which they obviously didn't need in a 30+ point victory...). However, they seem very content with their positioning, even though they technically could clinch 2nd best record overall.

I think Caron should sit out tomorrow, but a huge game between Philly & Cleveland tomorrow too. No point in playing Jamison more than 30 or so minutes tomorrow and Gil should stick to his 24 minutes. I know Eddie wants to have his 9 man rotation play, but he can do that through 3 quarters while giving the 7-9 guys (Blatche Songalia, Mason, and DMac: if CB is out) much more time, to allow AJ, DS, AD, and CB to rest.

If Cleveland wins or we lose, they clinch the 4 seed, then obviously Wednesday would be a meaningless game. Get well soon guys, because we have a chance to do some damage this spring...

Posted by: CN | April 13, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Blame me all you want...I don't create the news...I just report it, because otherwise, it'd be swept under the rug on this blog.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 8:57 PM

Ha Ha Ha. That's rich. DC Man88 now thinks he's a "reporter." I'd be insulted if I was Ivan or one of his peers.

Posted by: Woodward and Bernstein | April 13, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Also, the Pistons still have a chance to finish with the second best overall record in the league, which would give them home court against whoever wins the West. So they do have something to play for.

Posted by: kalorama | April 13, 2008 9:00 PM
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I made a similar argument last week, alluding to the fact that they might play their regulars more than we think against Philly and us (which they obviously didn't need in a 30+ point victory...). However, they seem very content with their positioning, even though they technically could clinch 2nd best record overall.

I think Caron should sit out tomorrow, but a huge game between Philly & Cleveland tomorrow too. No point in playing Jamison more than 30 or so minutes tomorrow and Gil should stick to his 24 minutes. I know Eddie wants to have his 9 man rotation play, but he can do that through 3 quarters while giving the 7-9 guys (Blatche Songalia, Mason, and DMac: if CB is out) much more time, to allow AJ, DS, AD, and CB to rest.

If Cleveland wins or we lose, they clinch the 4 seed, then obviously Wednesday would be a meaningless game. Get well soon guys, because we have a chance to do some damage this spring...

Posted by: CN | April 13, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Also, the Pistons still have a chance to finish with the second best overall record in the league, which would give them home court against whoever wins the West. So they do have something to play for.

Posted by: kalorama | April 13, 2008 9:00 PM
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I made a similar argument last week, alluding to the fact that they might play their regulars more than we think against Philly and us (which they obviously didn't need in a 30+ point victory...). However, they seem very content with their positioning, even though they technically could clinch 2nd best record overall.

I think Caron should sit out tomorrow, but a huge game between Philly & Cleveland tomorrow too. No point in playing Jamison more than 30 or so minutes tomorrow and Gil should stick to his 24 minutes. I know Eddie wants to have his 9 man rotation play, but he can do that through 3 quarters while giving the 7-9 guys (Blatche Songalia, Mason, and DMac: if CB is out) much more time, to allow AJ, DS, AD, and CB to rest.

If Cleveland wins or we lose, they clinch the 4 seed, then obviously Wednesday would be a meaningless game. Get well soon guys, because we have a chance to do some damage this spring...

Posted by: CN | April 13, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

"It's "news" like Lindsey Lohan's next bout with rehab is "news"...you, sir, are the cancer that is killing America

Posted by: | April 13, 2008 10:04 PM "

Yesssss.........I hope it kills you first!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Just finished finally watching last night's game. What is exciting to me is that Gilbert seems to get it. He is not trying to score 35-40 points a game. He seems to delight in making the great assist. Many, many more easy shots for the team now that he is back. His crazy range and the threat of him taking his man at any time is enough. And then he became the closer down the stretch.

Blatche played better yesterday. few stupid solo attempts and great help defense. Good spot usage of DMac. Need to use Young for a good 10 minutes on Monday just to keep his head in the game.

I am starting to think that we will take care of the Cavs easily now. Caron needs to sit and heal. Until we are mathematically unable to catch the Cavs we go with our current starters on Monday. Daniels and Caron and Stevenson can rest on Wednesday if the hunt is over by then.

Posted by: BmoreRev | April 13, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

I think Gilby obviously had a better 2nd half than his first half against the Sixers. For example, in the first half, he threw an extra long bounce pass on a break and tried to thread the needle, but the Sixers stole the ball and returned it the other way with dunk. Les BouleS can clearly beat the Sixers in a half court game, but will get run out of the gym if they try the speed game with the Sixers.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

88 wrote: Les BouleS can clearly beat the Sixers in a half court game, but will get run out of the gym if they try the speed game with the Sixers.

I don't think we're going to see them in the playoffs. They'd have to get past either Detroit or Orlando in a seven game series, and as much as I like the Sixers' style of play, I just don't see that happening.

Posted by: John Brisker | April 14, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Nice game by the Wiz and GA. Just remember that there is some valid criticisms of the guy. He is not infallible and he has holes in his character and game. So, I think the background is is he worth max money? I like him too, but I am little sick of his drama, which has pointed out he creates himself. It's not team oriented either, at all.

He is not a top 5 player either. Possibly during his "hibatchi" stretch last year, but definitely not now.

1. Chris Paul
2. Kobe
3. Lebron
4. Amare (Ivan's pick)
5. Arenas

Where is Duncan, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Wade, KG, Howard? Come on...there are more you can add too!!! Hell, I like CB better before the hip injury!

Talk to me when he makes us a true contender and not the yearly pretenders we are now. There is a reason we get no "national respect".

Posted by: Rob P | April 14, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

DCMan88- are you even a Wizards fan? You only have negative things to say. It literally makes me feel nauseous to read your posts. I'm not lying about that. Maybe some constructive criticism for a change?

Posted by: DCMan88 Problem | April 14, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Rob P, is the SKY ALWAYS FALLING????

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

if yall spent less time worrying bout dcman88 and his "opinions," and more time on the wizards...since this is a wizards blog...the world would be a better place.

and on another note. i know gilbert just got back and its good to see him light it up offensively but damn he need to have a date with Ayers and learn some D over dinner.

Posted by: i | April 14, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Is Nick Young still on the roster? Also my comment about not following the Wiz any longer was tongue in cheek as a reply to those posters who continually feel the need to lecture other posters about being critical of the Wiz. I attempt to confine my comments to Wiz players , coaches, management ,Gm etc . I am 60 years old and do not need lectures from other posters regarding how to respond to Wizard losses. Those posters who feel the need to attack other posters should reconsider what these message boards are designed to do. If i want a session with Dr. Phil I will pay for it. You don't have to be an Eddie Jordan groupie to support the Wizards. If a poster can make the mistaken comment that assists are not important to winning games , I can at least vent my frustration at Coach of the YEAR Eddie Jordan.

Posted by: minboden | April 14, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

This blog sucks!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I had nocturnal emissions thinking about Gilby last night.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

My Cavs scouting report: It's Jay Z vs. Soulja Boy. I'm taking Soulja Boy in 6 games. The key to winning will be defense, of course. Contrary to common sense, I think it will be the defense on guys like Joe Smith, Gibson and Wally that will win it for us. Role players like that always have career days against us. Another thing we have to improve on is offensive aggressiveness. As good as Aj and Cb are, they don't really attack the basket and draw fouls. They're jump shooters. We really need to start off this series getting some fouls called on the Cavs. It's almost like conditioning the refs to call fouls early on so that we can get them for the entire series. That's one area where GA is invaluable. Every game, we see Aj get fouled and NOT get the call. That's because he plays a game that avoids contact for the most part. Refs aren't used to giving him calls. We need to get around that.
Of course, we need to keep Sideshow Bob off the boards, as well. Finally, If Z hits a couple of shots, we can't panic. Once we start double teaming him, we're in trouble. We've been able to get him in fould trouble at times because he's slow and when he tries to help out, he usually commits a foul. My prediction is that DS comes up huge in at least a couple of these games. RM should make a key 3 or two as well. It may not be easy but we should be able to win this series.
Also, I think that James will get his calls whether he's at home or away, so home court advantage may not be as important as usual. As long as we contain the other guys, we should be fine.

Posted by: mark | April 14, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

From ESPN: "I wanted to play somebody else," James said. "But if we had to play somebody, I'm happy it's Washington."

I hope the guys brings their A-game in the series. Seems King James and the gang are ready. I hope DS is not all talk or he'll be posterize.

Posted by: Fortune Teller | April 14, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

That ESPN comment by L James is interesting. Does he mean he is afraid of the Wizards or that he is bored with beating the Wizards? I have a feeling that it is the latter, which will make victory even sweeter!

I am glad that our seeding is set before tonight's game. We should rest the starters now. Let them get 20-25 minutes of run in. 7 days of rest will do wonders for the legs, bruised bones and nagging pains of DeShawn, AJ, CB3 and Daniels. Gil needs to continue getting tuned up also. Play him 25 minutes again.May be good week to see Etan if that is a possibility.

I would love to see us take care of these Cavs in 4 or 5 games. That would completely shut up the so-called experts.

I am guessing that Kobe and Labron will draw the prime 5:30 slots and that we will play Saturday rather than Sunday. That's what I hope anyway. We preachers do have a life beyond Wizards! Better go and stock up on some blank video tapes. I may need quite a few over the next month. It should be nice!

Posted by: BmoreRev | April 14, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

He is not a top 5 player either. Possibly during his "hibatchi" stretch last year, but definitely not now.

1. Chris Paul
2. Kobe
3. Lebron
4. Amare (Ivan's pick)
5. Arenas

Where is Duncan, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Wade, KG, Howard? Come on...there are more you can add too!!! Hell, I like CB better before the hip injury!

Talk to me when he makes us a true contender and not the yearly pretenders we are now. There is a reason we get no "national respect".

Posted by: Rob P | April 14, 2008 1:03 AM


WAIT UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS BRO JUST WAIT AND SEE. ARENAS SAUTÉD DERON WILLIAMS FOR 51 AND NASH FOR 54 NOT TO MENTION WITH GAME WINNING DAGGERS!!! ARENAS IS ONLY A YEAR REMOVED FROM HIS HIBACHI DAYS. THE MAN IS 25 YEARS OLD C'MON. PEOPLE ACT LIKE HE'S IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT AS ZO MOURNING. GIVE HIM SOME TIME AND YOU WILL SEE IN THE PLAYOFFS. SAY IT WITH ME EVERYBODY...DAGGER!!!!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Wayne, I like your attitude! DAGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Frosty Freeze | April 14, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Last year's season was just a freak accident. Before that Arenas entertained us when we played Cavs pt.1 and when the Wiz went to the second round the first time around. I like what I've seen from the Wiz over the years. It sure is better that the Michael Jordan days and Webber days. Matter of fact how about them Calbert Chaney days...Tom Gugliata...Michael Adams. The days where we were lottery bound year after year. I dont know about you Wiz fans but I feel optimistic about this year's playoffs. Just hope we can stay healthy.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 14, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

DAGGER FROM FROSTY FREEZE...THAT BOY COLD!!!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 14, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Can I get a DAGGER from DCMAN88 and RobP???? lol

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 14, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

DAGGER !!!! Of course I predicted a Caps sweep and a Tiger Masters win. I can't possibly go 0-3 though.

Posted by: mark | April 14, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

If anyone recalls the first half, the Sixers were running Les BouleS out of the gym when Gilby was in the game, but when Gilby left the game, Les BouleS brought it close up until halftime at 53-57.
Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 9:27 PM

Typical revisionist history from 88'er.

I didn't remember it the way that DC Man88 described it above. The way I remember it, the 76'ers were running the Wizards ragged, UNTIL Arenas came into the game.

I thought that maybe my memory was faulty - so I went back to my Tivo recording and watched the first half again.

Here are the facts:
Arenas came into the game with 4:16 left in the first quarter. The 76'ers already had 13 Fast Break points and were leading 19-12 (7-point lead). He left with 8:22 left in the 2nd Quarter with Philly leading 35-32 (3-point lead).

During the 8 minutes that Arenas was in the game, the 76'ers scored 2 fast break points. REPEAT - the 76'ers scored 2 fast break points during the time that Arenas was in the game! They had 17 total Fast Break points at the Half.

In those 8 minutes, he drew 4 fouls, forced 2 turnovers, had 1 turnover (bad pass) had 2 assists, 2 rebounds and scored 8 points (on 2 of 6 shooting). Oh and by the way, all of his shots were within the Offensive flow, and were either open, uncontested shots, or drives to the basket.

Arenas was directly responsible for ONE (count em, 1) 76'ers fast break basket - on an intercepted bounce pass - attempting to get the ball to Blatche on the Fast break.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

If anyone recalls the first half, the Sixers were running Les BouleS out of the gym when Gilby was in the game, but when Gilby left the game, Les BouleS brought it close up until halftime at 53-57.
Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 9:27 PM

Hey, but don't let FACTS get in the way of your incessant 'Gilby' negativity.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

DAGGER ROOK!!!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 14, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

OOOOOOOOO.....ROOK GAVE IT TO DCWOMAN

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

AND WE KNOW WHAT HE DID THE SECOND HALF DON'T WE!!! BUT DCMANN ONLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE FIRST.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 14, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Another thing that has not been discussed is the 76'er press. When they got behind in the 4th, they started to go to their full-court press, but Arenas waived Stevenson down court - essentially telling him "go ahead, I got this".... and the 76'ers pulled out of their press. That happened at least 3 times in the 4th; with the 76'ers knowing they wouldn't be able to press Arenas. I think that is an intangible that Arenas brings - the ability to EASILY bring the ball up the court (especially against the press).

Posted by: Rook | April 13, 2008 10:25 AM

Excellent observation Rook, I noticed the same thing. This is what he brings to the table that AD is unable to. I am glad to see Gil is now in game time mode. This whole situation that happened to him this season is going to make him a "way better ball player" then he ever would have been if he never got hurt.

He has had the chance to look at things from the outside in, and man can you see the difference. Yea, I was one who was getting a little tired of all of the drama while he was hurt, but I was never one to want to see him gone.

What is amazing is that he is doing all of this on a knee that is probably about 75 to 80% healed. Imagine him at 100%?? Once Gil decides he is going to focus on being a better man to man defensive player, look the heck out. I now see the dude becoming a true superstar and again if the Wiz have to pay max, I now say he is worth it.

Good posts Rook!!!

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | April 14, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Great post Rook. Hard to argue with the facts...

Posted by: MDBaller1 | April 14, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Once Gil decides he is going to focus on being a better man to man defensive player, look the heck out.

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | April 14, 2008 12:04 PM


I agree... he has the tools to be a very good defender. We saw some of that in the Philly game.

Again, since I recently re-watched the 1st half - some of it is still fresh.

He is still having trouble defending the pick-and-roll. Twice he and Songaila messed up the defensive assignments; leading to open jump shots by Miller. But, I place some of the blame on Darius; because he didn't agressively flash on the guard, instead staying close to the screener (Evans)...

There were at least two times when Arenas forced bad passes leading to 76'er turn overs, by playing the passing lanes.

Miller also had a real difficult time getting open (other then the PnR's) - with GA denying him the ball; once taking so much time trying to get Miller the ball that it forced the 76'ers to take a bad shot at the end of the 24-second clock.

Miller missed one Jumper with Arenas right in his grill. Another time Miller tried backing him down, but Arenas forced him to miss short.

Point is.... Arenas CAN play defense; and he will only get better as that knee gets to be 100%... Also, more time learning the Defensive schemes can't hurt either.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how people are declaring Gilby such a success on both the offensive and defensive end after the game against the Sixers. Of course, these same people were hiding under a rock after the Pistons game.

LOL!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"Can I get a DAGGER from DCMAN88 and RobP???? lol

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | April 14, 2008 10:55 AM "

It's great that Wayne has something to smile about. It's rare for someone living in Pee Gee.

SWADAGGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

that Ayers deserves a lot of credit for this win because he switched to a zone offense when Gilby was in the game,

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 1:02 PM

The Wizards played zone of-and-on all game, even when Gilbert Arenas was NOT in the game.

The two possessions before Arenas entered the game in the 1st Quarter, The Wizards were playing zone. They played zone after Arenas left in the 2nd Quarter.

The zone made sense - NOT because of any perceived deficiencies in Arenas' defensive abilities - but because of Philly's lack of an Inside scoring threat.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

that Ayers deserves a lot of credit for this win because he switched to a zone offense when Gilby was in the game,

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 13, 2008 1:02 PM

And, I'm sure you meant to say zone DEFENSE...

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

It's great that Wayne has something to smile about. It's rare for someone living in Pee Gee.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 12:35 PM

I'll bet $7,000 it's even harder for you, living in Ala-frigging-bama.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Well done rook. Facts are stubborn things as the old saying goes.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 14, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"The Wizards played zone of-and-on all game, even when Gilbert Arenas was NOT in the game.

The two possessions before Arenas entered the game in the 1st Quarter, The Wizards were playing zone. They played zone after Arenas left in the 2nd Quarter.

The zone made sense - NOT because of any perceived deficiencies in Arenas' defensive abilities - but because of Philly's lack of an Inside scoring threat.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 12:37 PM "

As I said, Les BouleS went zone because of 2 reasons. The first one being the fact that the Sixers had no inside scoring threats, and the zone was to help prevent Gilby from having to chase a guy around and having BTH to help double team, and then rush back to his own man.

The Sixers are a team that Les BouleS should beat. Les BouleS in fact match up well against even better teams. It remains to be seen how they will do in the playoffs.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"Well done rook. Facts are stubborn things as the old saying goes.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 14, 2008 12:49 PM "

Old people are stubborn things as the old saying goes also.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Rook,

Way to lay the SMACKDOWN on the haters.

Posted by: Bangladesh | April 14, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

As I said, Les BouleS went zone because of 2 reasons. The first one being the fact that the Sixers had no inside scoring threats, and the zone was to help prevent Gilby from having to chase a guy around and having BTH to help double team, and then rush back to his own man.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 12:49 PM

Funny thing though - Haywood didn't play in the 1st Half when Gilbert Arenas was in the game; so there was no opportunity for Haywood to "help double team".

The Wizards primarily went with a 3 guard set; with Arenas, Stevenson AND Daniels. Later it was Arenas, Stevenson and Mason. Songaila played "Center" most of the time when Arenas was in....in the first half.

In the Second half, as I posted earlier, the Wizards played a MIXTURE of zone and man-to-man Defense. Switching, sometimes every other possession - INCLUDING the 4th Quarter; and at NO time did I see anyone cheating, doubling, leaning or otherwise trying to "help" Arenas with his defensive assignments.

What I did see was Arenas playing adequate, if not downright tough, defense on his man (usually Andre Miller) when he was in there. There were no dribble penetrations when Arenas was in the game. His man got NO wide open shots. Even when the Wizards were playing man-to-man, Arenas played well!!!

Miller ended up shooting only 7-22 (32%) for the game - and Arenas played at least a small part in that.

Sometimes I wonder if you even watch the games.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Non basketball comment on our use of English slang.
anon, using f..g in place of the other f word is actually making it worse. The other f word means copu..., while frig means both copu.. and mast...
per dictionary.com

Posted by: F words | April 14, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I guess PG isnt so bad after all.

Posted by: BAMAMANN88 | April 14, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand:

From Wikipedia

frig, a temporary modification to something to make it operate in a manner not as originally designed.

frig program (frigging), common term in the 1970s for a one-off program to correct corrupted data on mainframe computers

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

The Sixers are a team that Les BouleS should beat.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 12:49 PM

The 76'ers are JUST the kind of team that give the Wizards fits. Extremely athletic, running teams - like Atlanta, pre-Shaq Phoenix, Portland. They also have trouble with really good, top tier defensive teams - like Houston, Detroit, San Antonio.

Philly ran the Wiz (without Arenas) right out of the building with their Fast Break and press in a game earlier this year. Atlanta did the same thing.

It's a different story when Arenas is in the line up.
They can't press because he will make them pay.
The Wizards offense becomes more efficient because he demands double teams and attention from the Defense, leaving teammates open.
When the offense is more efficient, the other team has fewer opportunities to push the ball and get easy fast break baskets.

So, yes. I agree with you that WITH ARENAS, Philly is a team the Wizards should beat....without him, it's a completely different story.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Logic and Facts.... Logic and Facts.

When you gonna learn, Rook?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"So, yes. I agree with you that WITH ARENAS, Philly is a team the Wizards should beat....without him, it's a completely different story.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 1:46 PM "

Yes, I guess the win Nov. 20 against the Sixers without Gilby meant nothing. Yeah sure dude.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=271120027

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"In the Second half, as I posted earlier, the Wizards played a MIXTURE of zone and man-to-man Defense. Switching, sometimes every other possession - INCLUDING the 4th Quarter; and at NO time did I see anyone cheating, doubling, leaning or otherwise trying to "help" Arenas with his defensive assignments.

What I did see was Arenas playing adequate, if not downright tough, defense on his man (usually Andre Miller) when he was in there. There were no dribble penetrations when Arenas was in the game. His man got NO wide open shots. Even when the Wizards were playing man-to-man, Arenas played well!!!

Miller ended up shooting only 7-22 (32%) for the game - and Arenas played at least a small part in that.

Sometimes I wonder if you even watch the games.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 1:15 PM "

Absolutely. There was no dribble penetration because the Sixers don't have anyone down low who can score. How many times do I need to say that?

The defense called by Ayers was the primary reason the Sixers offense got stuffed, as they obviously couldn't keep hitting 3's from the outside.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

frig program (frigging), common term in the 1970s for a one-off program to correct corrupted data on mainframe computers

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 1:28 PM

I can confirm that, as I was a mainframe programmer in the 70s. The word was taken from the expression frig it "to wriggle or move back n forth" that is, until one got it right.

Posted by: F words | April 14, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"So, yes. I agree with you that WITH ARENAS, Philly is a team the Wizards should beat....without him, it's a completely different story.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 1:46 PM "

Yes, I guess the win Nov. 20 against the Sixers without Gilby meant nothing. Yeah sure dude.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=271120027

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 2:30 PM
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Should beat and can beat are two different animals. I can post two links to victories over New Orleans (top team in the west) and three links to victories over Boston. We CAN beat them, obviously, but are they a team who SHOULD always beat, probably not. You got it dude...

Posted by: CN | April 14, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

"Should beat and can beat are two different animals. I can post two links to victories over New Orleans (top team in the west) and three links to victories over Boston. We CAN beat them, obviously, but are they a team who SHOULD always beat, probably not. You got it dude...

Posted by: CN | April 14, 2008 2:51 PM "

LOL!

WHATEVAH!!!

"completely different story..."

LMAO!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely. There was no dribble penetration because the Sixers don't have anyone down low who can score. How many times do I need to say that?

The defense called by Ayers was the primary reason the Sixers offense got stuffed, as they obviously couldn't keep hitting 3's from the outside.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 2:35 PM

1. "Sixers don't have anyone down low who can score. How many times do I need to say that?"

Maybe keep saying it and you'll come to believe that dribble penetration has anything at all to do with a low post scoring threat. Say it 100 times.... maybe you'll eventually really believe it.

When the Sixers were building a lead in the 1st quarter, they were Fast Breaking, AND using dribble penetration to get layups and dunks for their bigs - OR penetrating and kicking out to wide open shooters.

You don't need a low post scoring threat to use dribble penetration in the offense. All you need is a good point guard,....... like, say.... an Andre Miller?

Dalembert had two dunks on easy assists from Miller on dribble penetration to the lane. Iguodala & Williams both had open jump shots assisted by Miller after he penetrated the lane. All, BEFORE Arenas entered the game.

Arenas came in and, low and behold, the penetration stopped. NO more Miller to Dalembert dunks. No more Miller driving the lane and kicking out to an open shooter.

Miller had 8 assists when Arenas was on the bench.... and only 2 when Arenas was in the game.


2. "The defense called by Ayers "

Not sure how you know that Ayers called for the specific defenses to be used.... since Ivan reported in the Washington Post that "Jordan mixed zone and man-to-man defenses"


In the Wizards Organization, the Head Coach (Eddie Jordan) calls the Offensive and Defensive sets. That was reported earlier this season.

So, unless you know something differently, Jordan was calling the defenses..

Were you at the game? Did you hear Ayers calling the defenses? Do you possess some information that the rest of us do not know?

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe keep saying it and you'll come to believe that dribble penetration has anything at all to do with a low post scoring threat. Say it 100 times.... maybe you'll eventually really believe it.

When the Sixers were building a lead in the 1st quarter, they were Fast Breaking, AND using dribble penetration to get layups and dunks for their bigs - OR penetrating and kicking out to wide open shooters.

You don't need a low post scoring threat to use dribble penetration in the offense. All you need is a good point guard,....... like, say.... an Andre Miller?

Dalembert had two dunks on easy assists from Miller on dribble penetration to the lane. Iguodala & Williams both had open jump shots assisted by Miller after he penetrated the lane. All, BEFORE Arenas entered the game.

Arenas came in and, low and behold, the penetration stopped. NO more Miller to Dalembert dunks. No more Miller driving the lane and kicking out to an open shooter.

Miller had 8 assists when Arenas was on the bench.... and only 2 when Arenas was in the game.


2. "The defense called by Ayers "

Not sure how you know that Ayers called for the specific defenses to be used.... since Ivan reported in the Washington Post that "Jordan mixed zone and man-to-man defenses"


In the Wizards Organization, the Head Coach (Eddie Jordan) calls the Offensive and Defensive sets. That was reported earlier this season.

So, unless you know something differently, Jordan was calling the defenses..

Were you at the game? Did you hear Ayers calling the defenses? Do you possess some information that the rest of us do not know?

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 3:16 PM "

Yeah, I guess Andre Miller's lack of ability to initiate dribble penetration has no effect on Dalembert to score close to the basket with a short jumper or a put back.

Oh wow, the brilliant Rook is now saying the Les BouleS chosen one came into the game and put a stop to the fast breaking and scoring inside. Gilby is now somehow a defensive maniac where he can disrupt the game and guard 5 guys at once. Gilby should be renamed the black basketball jesus if Rook controlled this blog.

Let's see, Ayers, by Rook's account, isn't calling the defense now. He was hired just to look good in a suit, not as the defensive coach. If EJ was so good at calling defenses, then Abe is clearly wasting his money by having Ayers on the payroll.

Also, it is crazy to think that during timeouts, huddles, or halftimes, that Ayers even bothered to mention to EJ what should be done to stop all the fast breaking. Rook was hiding in the locker room and was disguised as a sweat mop boy and can confirm that Ayers is actually a deaf mute.

LMAO!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I guess the win Nov. 20 against the Sixers without Gilby meant nothing. Yeah sure dude.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=271120027

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 2:30 PM



As I said, without Arenas, the Wizards have trouble with teams like Philly - with Arenas, Philadelphia is a team that the Wizards SHOULD beat.

You are entitled to your opinion... which I assume is that "The Sixers are a team that Les BouleS should beat" - even without Arenas???

My statements are supported by the Las Vegas odds on those games during the year.
Washington was between 2 and 5 point underdogs to Phildelphia all year - EXCEPT the last game at home (with Arenas) when they were 1 point Favorite.

The Las Vegas odds makers agreed with me - that Washington (without Arenas) should LOSE to the Sixers and that Washington (with Arenas) SHOULD beat the Sixers.

Also, If I remember correctly, In the game you threw out there to support your argument; Andre Blatche had a career night, scoring 26 points - and Iguodala was a non-factor with only 10 points.

Now - if you're saying that we could get 26 points from Blatche EVERY time we played the Sixers, and that Iguodala would be limited to 10 points on terrible shooting EVERY time we played them - Well then...........YES, the Wizards should beat Philly....even without Arenas.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Dalembert to score close to the basket with a short jumper or a put back."

Except that every basket Dalembert scored, except one offensive rebound and put back, was assisted by either Miller or Iguadalla from penetration. Did you watch the game?

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

"Oh wow, the brilliant Rook is now saying the Les BouleS chosen one came into the game and put a stop to the fast breaking and scoring inside." DC Man88

Just posting my opinion on what I saw during the game... without any prejudice, malice, slant, twist, vitriol or bias. Using facts as my friend and ally.

It may be completely coincidental that the Sixers stopped penetrating when Arenas was in the game. And that their Fast Break was practically non-existant when he was on the floor. Or it could be a combination of factors..... like:

More efficient Washington offense
Resulting in more baskets made and fewer 76'er break-outs.
Fewer Washington turn-overs.
The Defense able to run back and set up properly after made baskets.
Quicker defenders on the floor for Washington. (Arenas, McGuire, 3-guard lineup)
Switching from zone to man confusing the Sixers on offense.


Do you have a better explanation as to why the Sixers could not penetrate the lane? or why they had 28 fast break points through 3 quarters, and only 4 when Arenas was in the 1st Half - and NONE in the entire 4th Quarter? (Arenas played the entire 4th quarter).

And don't tell me it's because they don't have a low post scoring threat like the old Shaq, or Dwight Howard, or Amare - because that sorry argument does not hold water.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"As I said, without Arenas, the Wizards have trouble with teams like Philly - with Arenas, Philadelphia is a team that the Wizards SHOULD beat."

Yeah, so in the 1st half of the Sixers game where the Sixers maintained their lead when Gilby was in the game, and after he left, Les BouleS ended up going up by 4 points at the half. Whatever.

Les BouleS have trouble with all teams in this league, because they are so inconsistent.

Stop basing your assessment on Les BouleS success with Gilby just on the Sixers game and look at the entire season where the team played very well without him, beating the Celtics, Mavs, and Hornets. Hmmm, wonder what Vegas says about those wins.

The next thing you should tell me is Les BouleS should have beaten the Bucks with Gilby, but that didn't happen, did it? So you can engross yourself all you want with those Vegas stats to your heart's content.

"Now - if you're saying that we could get 26 points from Blatche EVERY time we played the Sixers, and that Iguodala would be limited to 10 points on terrible shooting EVERY time we played them - Well then...........YES, the Wizards should beat Philly....even without Arenas.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 3:50 PM "

Another weak excuse from you. You said Les BouleS should lose to the Sixers without Gilby, but Les BouleS beat them without Gilby back in November.

Now you're talking about AB. Well, maybe if AB had 29 minutes/game, he just might produce that, but with EJ, you will never know.

With your AB excuse, I can say if DS didn't score his 19 clutch points (almost doubling his 3 point shooting percentage) in the Sixers game, then we wouldn't be talking about a Les BouleS win against the Sixers, and you wouldn't be heaping all this glory on Gilby right now, especially since DS only averages 11 pts/game (shooting .382 from 3, as opposed to 71% against the Sixers).

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"Except that every basket Dalembert scored, except one offensive rebound and put back, was assisted by either Miller or Iguadalla from penetration. Did you watch the game?

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 3:55 PM "

Did you watch the game? I'm not so sure.

That's why I'm saying the Sixers have no inside scoring threat, which Ayers capitalized on.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"Just posting my opinion on what I saw during the game... without any prejudice, malice, slant, twist, vitriol or bias. Using facts as my friend and ally.

It may be completely coincidental that the Sixers stopped penetrating when Arenas was in the game. And that their Fast Break was practically non-existant when he was on the floor. Or it could be a combination of factors..... like:

More efficient Washington offense
Resulting in more baskets made and fewer 76'er break-outs.
Fewer Washington turn-overs.
The Defense able to run back and set up properly after made baskets.
Quicker defenders on the floor for Washington. (Arenas, McGuire, 3-guard lineup)
Switching from zone to man confusing the Sixers on offense.


Do you have a better explanation as to why the Sixers could not penetrate the lane? or why they had 28 fast break points through 3 quarters, and only 4 when Arenas was in the 1st Half - and NONE in the entire 4th Quarter? (Arenas played the entire 4th quarter).

And don't tell me it's because they don't have a low post scoring threat like the old Shaq, or Dwight Howard, or Amare - because that sorry argument does not hold water.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 4:16 PM "

Wrong!

It was all based on the zone defense that was employed, coupled with, as I said before, the poor coaching of Mo Cheeks who just let his guys try to make up the deficit by throwing 3 point bombs, and the lack of an inside scoring presence.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

...and you wouldn't be heaping all this glory on Gilby right now...

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:17 PM

Can't stand it, huh?

Not that he was doing that, but that's a small detail...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

last post mine

Posted by: jones-y | April 14, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

DC Man88 "The next thing you should tell me is Les BouleS should have beaten the Bucks with Gilby, but that didn't happen, did it? "

Yes - the Wizards SHOULD have beaten the Bucks... AND the Las Vegas odds makers agreed too.

You just made my point.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"You just made my point.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 4:31 PM "

Should don't mean squat when you don't beat them, which proves my point that your constant emphasis on vegas and stats is baloney.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"Can't stand it, huh?

Not that he was doing that, but that's a small detail...

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:27 PM "

Not unexpected on a Gilby loving blog. I'm glad I'm here to provided a fair and balanced opinion, which "nobody can stand" either.

LMAO!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Dc Man88 "the poor coaching of Mo Cheeks who just let his guys try to make up the deficit by throwing 3 point bombs"

As of the 7:17 mark of the 4th Quarter, the game was tied 91-91....

Arenas was taken out with 1:18 to go. During those 6 minutes, Philly shot 9 times... only 2 of those were 3 pointers. The rest were contested jump shots, and layup attempts.

In that 6 minute stretch, Arenas contested 2 shots by Andre Miller (both misses), stole the ball twice, assisted on 4 buckets, grabbed 2 rebounds; and oh Yeah, stuck in the dagger with a 34 ft 3-pointer.

Do you watch the games? Or just look at the highlights on Sports Center?

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

DC Man88: "It was all based on the zone defense that was employed"

So, what about when the Wizards were playing man-to-man? Which, by the way, they did about half the time in the second half.

You keep conveniently forgetting that fact.

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

"I'm glad I'm here to provided a fair and balanced opinion" DC Man88

"I'm glad I'm here to provided a fair and balanced opinion" DC Man88

"I'm glad I'm here to provided a fair and balanced opinion" DC Man88

I had to read that three times... It made me laugh each time...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 14, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad I'm here

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:43 PM

That makes one of us.

to provided a fair and balanced opinion,

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:43 PM

The term "delusions of self grandeur" comes to mind. Or is it just 'delusions'?

Posted by: jones-y | April 14, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"As of the 7:17 mark of the 4th Quarter, the game was tied 91-91....

Arenas was taken out with 1:18 to go. During those 6 minutes, Philly shot 9 times... only 2 of those were 3 pointers. The rest were contested jump shots, and layup attempts.

In that 6 minute stretch, Arenas contested 2 shots by Andre Miller (both misses), stole the ball twice, assisted on 4 buckets, grabbed 2 rebounds; and oh Yeah, stuck in the dagger with a 34 ft 3-pointer.

Do you watch the games? Or just look at the highlights on Sports Center?

Posted by: Rook | April 14, 2008 4:50 PM "

Dude, I seriously don't know why you are obsessed with talking about something I'm not disputing. I gave credit to Gilby for sparking the comeback in the 4th quarter. That's obvious.

What is obvious also is that the Sixers were running Les BouleS out of the gym in the first half even with Gilby in the game, and teh Sixers had no answer for the zone defense in the second half.

Do you watch games at all, or just look at stats on the internet?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

"I had to read that three times... It made me laugh each time...

Posted by: | April 14, 2008 4:55 PM "

You're welcome to read it a few more times.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"I'm glad I'm here

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:43 PM

That makes one of us.

to provided a fair and balanced opinion,

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 4:43 PM

The term "delusions of self grandeur" comes to mind. Or is it just 'delusions'?

Posted by: jones-y | April 14, 2008 4:56 PM "

Too bad for you. Nobody's putting a gun to your head to read any of my posts.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

you are the fox news of this blog...

Posted by: sodomb | April 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"you are the fox news of this blog...

Posted by: sodomb | April 14, 2008 6:09 PM "

And you be the Tavis Smiley show.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 14, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

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