Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity
On Twitter: MrMichaelLee and PostSports  |  Facebook  |  E-mail alerts: Redskins and Sports  |  RSS

An All Too Familiar End

Another year, another Wizards playoff exit thanks to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Game 6 went the same as Games 2 and 3 with one team dominating for the better part of the night and strolling to victory.

So now the Wizards head into the offseason with a laundry list of issues:
What's to be done with Arenas?
What about Jamison?
Can this team take the next step as presently constructed?

So we open it up to you, any predictions for this summer and next season?

By washingtonpost.com Sports Editor  |  May 2, 2008; 10:10 PM ET
 
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: 56-48 Cavs at the half
Next: It's over

Comments

I say start over, sign and trade both Jamison and Arenas. Then at least other players will try to combat the curse.

Posted by: Lee | May 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Everything set up fine. LeBron is making pan cakes for everyone! Gilbert Arenas looks FIERCE in his "white out" suit. He's currently having a conversation, about himself, with a plant in the corner. DeClown has been talking to several young girls. Brenda has been doing "crybaby" impressions for everyone. He STILL wishes that the Cavs hadn't traded him for Chris Mihm. Antawn and Caron haven't had much to say. Funny, because Antawn is a FA, and the Cavs will have a lot to work with in the offseason. And Caron STILL wishes that he was drafted by the Cavs. I've got to get some pancakes! LeBron will be stopping soon. He's got the Celtics to beat, after all.

Posted by: Commisioner Stern | May 2, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Wizards protected their share of the luxury tax payout, and that's the most important thing. Right?

Posted by: quizzical | May 2, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Being 41 and barely remembering the Bullets going to the championship twice and winning once and then living with 20 plus years of terrible basketball to have this kind of problem is a luxury. Playoffs 4 years in a row.....I'll take it! We have to keep Gilbert. Just like the song by the Fixx this town has been have been "Saved by Zero". And a healty Gilbert is the Fixx to this team. Having Etan back will help as well. You have to give this group one more year to come back healthy have give it a shot. Sign Gilbert, give them a year and if the story has the same ending then we go for the trade. And if you want to trade this year....trade Gilbert for the #1 pick in the draft, but I wouldn't do it.

Posted by: B52bomb | May 2, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

This group hasn't gotten it done in 3 post seasons...Time for the GM to take a serious look at blowing this up and starting again.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I'll make it to you very clear for you simple minded wiz fans: Rebuild. MAYBE with the exception of Caron Butler, get rid of everyone else. Jamison will want too much money for a 32 year old declining shoot happy player. I wouldn't sign Arenas to anything but the minimum. The guy has knee problems and is too much of a ball hogging player that should never have opened his mouth saying how he wanted to play Cleveland in the first round. I would cut Stevenson just for the idiotic fact that he had the balls to call Lebron overrated. So how does it feel to lose again in the first round? You made your bed...time to sleep in it till next season

Posted by: Wizs suck | May 2, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like Mr. Pollin is ready to transition away from active involvement in ownership issues. If so, the new owner will bring his/her biases. It's hard to predict without knowing the person, but the record and coaching over the last several years has been mediocre, but the players are better than mediocre.

Obviously, the off-season starts with Gil, then AJ and then EJ. If Gil and AJ insist on EJ's return in order for them to commit, I would hope the new owner would take a hard line. Those sorts of decisions are made by the GM and owner, not the players.

Even without Gill and Twan, the Wiz have a good core of players. The Wiz would make the playoffs next year without Gil, Twan and EJ, so the new owner has a back-up strategy.

My preference is to give the Big 3 one more opportunity to show their stuff (presuming that they want it) -- but with a new head coach.

Posted by: Izman | May 2, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

My prediction? Reactionary histrionics in this forum. So glad Ernie G is running this ship and not most of these fools

Posted by: Ben | May 2, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey Commish: the Cavs traded Brenda for Michael Doleac, not Christine Mihm.

Posted by: Cavs time | May 2, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

well, the post is already making it clear that they won't publicly question whether eddie will be here. i expect nothing less.

Posted by: zach | May 2, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, they're treading water and I can't see them getting much better since the nucleus of the team is pretty much at the top of their careers. No room for (much) improvement.

Butler has room to improve but Jamison and Arenas - because of age and injury respectively - are maxxed out.

The window has closed on this group.

Start over.

Posted by: Steve | May 2, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I think Gilbert will be released. Jamison will be signed. Stevenson is a good player and the GM would get one major trade during the offseason. I think playoff is lot better then finishing at the bottom. This is great. Room was not built in one day. Give the GM time. He will do it. Coach may have to go....

Posted by: mazbar | May 2, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Why is it all our 3's are contested and their 3's are open? Do you fix that with new players or better coaches?

Posted by: CBaller | May 2, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

WHERE THE HELL IS PRESCRUNK

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

screw the wizards.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

We need a true floor leader who is tough as nails. Andre Miller? Or, let's bring Alan Iverson back home. No one is tougher than he is and that's what this girlie team needs. Then maybe it wouldn't be jacking up 3's from all angles all night. Go for it Ernie. And if Avery Johnson gets fired, why does Eddie have a job? He's got talent on this team. What did Mo Cheeks have?

Posted by: Frank | May 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

"Can this team take the next step as presently constructed?"

No. Not as constructed. Two things. One: They have to get deeper with their bigs, getting more production from the front line. Example. Haywood has to lean to get along with and play in a rotation with other players, an Etan Thomas or preferably somebody else. Caron and AJ are great but they're smallish and it catches up to them in the playoffs. Blatche isn't the answer. He's a bit player. Two: Gilbert has to come back healthy but play in a way that he makes his teammates better and not where they defer to him the minute the momentum shifts during the game.

They have a lot of the pieces and we're a lot closer than we've been for a lot years. Remember, this team was lost in the wilderness for decades. But they need help.

Posted by: Fenderdeluxe | May 2, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I believe you can do things with Tough Juice as the 2 guard...other than that... um well...

Can Gil lead a team at the point??
What about AJ at the 3 ??
Blatche at the 4?? Maybe
Haywood in the middle?? i guess...i think??

go to REALGM.COM and try the TRADE CHECKER ...LET's FIX the WIZ !!!

Posted by: cej75024 | May 2, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

This team...the Wiz...is NOWHERE NEAR an NBA title. Reasons:

1. Little commitment to defense.
2. A VERY low basketball IQ.
3. Almost every NBA title team in recent decades, has had either an inside SCORING threat ...or an inside STOPPER....the Wiz have NEITHER !!!

These things are a FACT !!! And can't be denied. Smart teams with at least a nod tot he defensive end of the court win titles. This team is no better than a 4-5 seed in the freakin East.

Get used to it guys and girls...

Posted by: cej75024 | May 2, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Not exactly Wiz-related, but if Atlanta pulls out a win against the Celtics, the league office is going to have to find a way to suspend a whole bunch of Hawks to ensure the Celtics advance in game seven...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

It's really sad the way they "seem" to let LeBron have his way with them. But before him, Miami used to do the same. It's easy for someone not anywhere near NBA ready to say, but it seems like the Wizards are lacking a toughness--not expressed by head-smack/flagrant fouls, but by a defense that muscles folks into their game. Etan Thomas had that kind of fire, though he was still working on his low post game. They need power to go with their improving offense. Blatche as a starting number 4 with perhaps Butler going to the 2 spot. All the guys have worked hard in their positions, but something in the 2 and 3 spots has to change to compete with stronger teams.
That's my take.

Posted by: Arnold | May 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

The Hawks came to play, unlike the Wiz. Nothing to do with the league office.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

The wiz were better!?!?!?! They were better when they lost in 6 in o6. They were better in o7 when they lost in 4 (because of injuries), but they were at their BEST in o8 when then again lost in 6. In OUR minds, we are actually a BETTER team. If only the scoreboard COULD show that the best team is the Wizards (UNIVERSALLY AGREED among the players, WORLD REKNOWN BEAT writters and the friendliest fans).

Posted by: Not Sarcastic | May 2, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

The problem plain and simple is the coaching. Eddie Jordan has no idea how to kill the other teams momentum by using time outs. He allowed the Cavs to have tremendous runs at the end of the 2nd Quarter of Game 4 and 6 without calling a timeout on his own. Also, if the team isn't running the offense, don't you call timeout and tell them to run the offense?

The defensive scheme does not work. Double teaming players up top leaves the other perimeter players open. Wouldn't we rather allow a contested 2 instead of a wide open 3.

Eddie has no control over the team or he doesn't think things through. Why would you leave an injured Arenas, who already is a bad defender on his best day, in at the end of game 4? Why would you leave Jamison in...he is another defensive liability.

The best scenario is Arenas doesn't opt out. The Wizards sign Jamison to a two year deal for much less than the 17 million he is getting this year. That way the contract of Arenas and Jamison end at the same time and if the team isn't any better, you can trade the expiring contacts to get two or more good players.

And, of course, a new coach.

Posted by: Devilish | May 2, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

arenas is a cancer on this team. sad but true. he needs to be a number 2 or 3 player somewhere else. caron is the only keeper. songaila is okay. pecherov is a tall disappointment; blatche is a lazy kid who hasn't learned to play in years; daniels, too old; jamieson, old and small and courageous but outmatched in tough games. haywood is a mediocre on his best days. really a very very mediocre team. as always.

Posted by: rod | May 2, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

you guys got taken to the wood shed. admit it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

@Izman

Ted Leonsis has first right of refusal to buy Pollin's ownership of the Wizards and his entity that owns the arena, ticketmaster, etc when he decides to sell.

He is a smart businessman and will spend the money at the right time as evidenced by his time as owner of the Caps.

Posted by: CapsFan | May 2, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Ivan, why do you even bother to ask these people? They can't coach...don't play...and all they want to do is blow up the team and have us go back to the cellar.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Ivan,

You tell me? This is one of the most important offseason's in forever. I trust EG though, but this is a crap shoot.

1) Even at 100%, I'm not sure GA is a championship caliber player! Will he ever be the same again? He was still SELFISH at 60/70%. Why would that ever change? Can he be a coachable player? He has never been to this point in his career.

2) Worried about CB. He is clearly not the same player he was before the all-star break and hip injury. Hope the off season changes that.

3) Once again, Jamison brings up the issue of whether he can be a championship starter
with his play the last few weeks. Numbers can be deceiving. The numbers he gives up are just as important!!!!

4) IMO, if you bring back the players and the coach, this team to me is still a 2nd round contender at BEST! Are you satisfied with that Wiz fans ? Some are.

Posted by: Rob P | May 2, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Keepers ( fo' sho )

Tough Juice
Blatche ( tooooo much potential )


Keepers ( at a certain price )
Agent Zero
AJ


Guys you can live without .. if ya gotta movem '
Mase
Songaila
Daniels
Pesh

Posted by: cej75024 | May 2, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

How'd that taste DC? Need a box of tissues?
Talk talk talk , no action, just like the Congress. Guess all your booing of the best player in the NBA, only resulted in a triple double. Nice move!

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, your team needs a major rebuild, except for Caron. Much as I hate the guy, I'd like to see him on my team.

Posted by: CryinCav | May 2, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Uh.. yeah. Woodshed, beatdown, schooling, smackdown, old fashioned whipping.

Congrats to the Cavaliers on winning a hard fought if not terribly competitive series. Best upside for Cleveland was your role players all stepped up tonight. Best of luck on your quest for a title.

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | May 2, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Screw it.. Let's re-create the score-in-7-seconds Suns or the old nuggets that went for 140 every night.

Might not win a playoff game, but it would be fun

The pieces are in place! We just need a coach that embraces the concept. Mike D'antoni will be available. Perhaps Steve Spurier wants to coach basketball

Posted by: Cballer | May 2, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Eddie Jordan did a respectable job this year but we need a change. Rather than bring up questionable in-game management and strategy exhibited throughout the series, I'll just say we need a new voice to challenge our players. Someone to reign Gil in and increase our basketball IQ as a team.

I hope we can work things out for both Arenas and Jamison but at the right price. Arenas had the right intention but it just did not work. Jamison was our rock this year and could give us two more good years if we regulate his minutes and leave him on the floor when he should be on the floor.

I trust Grunsfeld to make it happen and hope we listen to his suggestions. If he goes, the ship tanks.

Posted by: Michael | May 2, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

I think Gil is not going to opt out of his contract this offseason after everything that has transpired since the playoffs began. He is not 100%. He will not command the money he expects with his knee. He is tainted goods.

As for Jamison, he deserves to be re signed for what he has done. He is the leader of this team and we need that leadership especially with a young bench. I do not forsee anything major happening this offseason. The wizards had 98 man games lost to injury for their STARTING lineup alone.

The two issues they need to address and take a really deep look at this off season are perimeter defense and rebounding. For that being said, I would hope they take a good look at Elton Brand this offseason. Lets see what happens.....at least it is only 3 months until football season!

Posted by: Alex | May 2, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

My guess is that Stevenson and Mason won't be on the squad next year. It looks like Grunfield is going to keep Arenas/Jamison/Butler as the core. If that's the case, they need a big 2 guard who can defend. EJ is a good coach, just had a bad break this year. As quirky as Arenas is, when he's healthy, he's a nightmare for opponents. I guess the Wiz need to run and gun b/c their D stinks as evident tonight.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Stupidest discussion ever.

Grunfeld will re-sign Jamison, re-sign Mason, and Arenas will not opt out.

End of story.

Posted by: Barno | May 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"How'd that taste DC? Need a box of tissues?
Talk talk talk , no action, just like the Congress. Guess all your booing of the best player in the NBA, only resulted in a triple double. Nice move!

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, your team needs a major rebuild, except for Caron. Much as I hate the guy, I'd like to see him on my team." - CryinCav

Ok...your lame. Is there not a Cavs blog? How many Wiz fans are on there? None I presume now or ever.

Major rebuild? I don't know about that. If we had a coach, we could just as easily won this series! Why would you hate CB? Bc he came from a terrible neighborhood and was a troubled teen, but is now more of a MAN than LeBron will ever be? And classier! He is not 100% either by the way, but we lost fair and square. You have won NOTHING yet so gloat somewhere else!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow...what a bad loss. Things were going great early on, but then the team collapsed. The traveling rule was thrown out of the window for this game.

But, the Wiz lost because they resorted to too much one on one and long shots. Every stat is similar to the Cavs, except for the shooting percentage and assists, 29 - 11 in favor of the Cavs. Wally, Joe Smith, and Boobie had huge games...game over.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280502027

Oh well...congrats to all the guys for a great season.

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 2, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

This group hasn't gotten it done in 3 post seasons...Time for the GM to take a serious look at blowing this up and starting again.

Posted by: | May 2, 2008 10:29 PM

3 post seasons? Please.

Don't come around here claiming last year counted with a Gilbert-less and Caron-less squad. That's just lame.

Posted by: Barno | May 2, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

new coach.

sorry, but letting an opposing team blow you out to clinch in your own arena is inexcusable.

the players are partly to blame, but you're the coach. it starts with you. these ain't scrubs you're coaching.

i'm not anti-eddie jordan. i think he's been great. but he's hit his cieling. look at dallas firing avery johnson - and they actually won 60 games not too long ago.

it just has to happen. don't like it. but it has to be done.

Posted by: washington ball | May 2, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

If you were at tonight's game and watched the Wiz huddle between 3rd and 4th periods, you would have seen Nick Young hiding his mouth with a towel and laughing it up like crazy. The kid can shoot, but who needs that kind of crap at that point in the season? He and Blatche need less Remy and more court and workout time. They are paid pro money --- time to earn it and stop the fooling around when the season's on the line.

Apparently they're going to Vegas next month --- supposedly for summer league. What a waste of time and money. Summer camp for rich stupids with talent going to ssed.

Posted by: joe c | May 2, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Please, no more comments from anyone who hasn't been a Wizards fan since at least the 1980s. Sick of the pitifully ill-informed comments.

Posted by: Barno | May 2, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Well all the trash talking and assult and battery didn't work for such a weak minded but of thugs that play like morons. Like the KING said tonight after the game. He hasn't nothing to say to Deshawn the moron or the rest of the team. Cleveland wins series 4-2 and have won 12 out of 16 playoff games against you guys. Time to shut up and figure out what's wrong with you guys so you might be able to give us a good game.

Posted by: Cavs Fan | May 2, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

i would say trade arenas for brand since we really need a low post scorer and arenas can go back to his hometown, he wants max money but he doesn't deserve it cause he isn't a leader, he still need to grow up alot, if we sign him, we would be at least a .500 team again but hey, i have a feeling that mr grunfield will keep the team as it is and maybe add more pieces (maybe diop? , a defensive mind center),

but i would say trade arenas, sign jamison for no more than 8 mil a year, def keep butler, keep haywood, blatche didn't do much and he seems to be an average player at best so i'll trade him if the right offer come along or package him with somebody else, release pech, trade mason keep young, i don't know its just my guess

Posted by: ak 47 | May 2, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse


Eddie Jorden is 229-278 in the regular season his career as head coach and 8-18 during the playoffs. Mike D'Dantoni's record is 267-172 during the regular season and 26-25 in the playoffs while Avery Johnsons regular season record is 264-194 and 23-24 for the playoffs. AJ is fired. MD is on the verge of being fired. AJ has taken his team to the finals. MD to the western conference finals. EJ has won 1 playoff series in his career as coach. What are the reasons the Wiz continue with Jordan? What reason do they have not to fire him? The Wiz have never won their division and haven't won a playoff series in 3 years. But things will be different next season. 5 seasons is the charm because we all know that EJ was the real brain behind the Nets one tim success and not Byron Scott whose teams have floundered since Jorden left.


Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

everybody seems to have forgotten awfully quickly that arenas was a clutch player, a star not long ago. obviously, you keep him if there's a good possibility the knee gets better. obviously for less money now.

aj, class act that he is, has too go if the money is too high. the wizards have to get a strong, big PF in order to go farther. he doesn't have to score, but he has to play defense, get rebounds, and knock the hell out of penatrators.

blatche is a bit player, always will be. he's irrelavent.

is young any good? i don't think so, but management thinks he will be, then you let mason go.

if they get healthy, which is a big if, and get an effective PF, they can contend. for at least a couple rounds.

Posted by: stevie | May 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah, and new coach, the opponent got too many open shot in the series, many great coaches r in the market right now

Posted by: ak47 | May 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

most of the idiots here don't realize that this is the most interesting team in the NBA as currently construed. I'd rather have the personalities and stories that develop with these players than some bum team like the
Cavs who seem to be like a bunch of wii mii's playing together. Gilbert needs to stay for his great play and even greater comic value. Don't u tards loving having a team that brings a smile to your face with their antics?

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Eddie Jordan did a hell of a job. He needs to be the Wiz's Jerry Sloan. Look what he did with Roger Mason. Gettin Blatche to live up to potential. He's a DC guy and should be given at least another five years of the benefit of the doubt. He's a professional ball coach who shouldnt have to babysit his players like a dorm nanny.

Don't the Wiz have two first round picks in next year's draft? We need to grow our own talent instead of trying to buy it.

Posted by: RJ | May 2, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

everybody seems to have forgotten awfully quickly that arenas was a clutch player, a star not long ago. obviously, you keep him if there's a good possibility the knee gets better. obviously for less money now.

Posted by: stevie | May 2, 2008 11:34 PM

well i wouldnt risk signing arenas cause he seems to get injure over and over again on the same knee which is seemed to be a bad sign, and i feel arenas wouldn't accept less money even though he said it in front of the media, i would trade him while he still have good value now,

Posted by: ak47 | May 2, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

get rid of ej. dont sign gilbert hes finished. dont resign jamison and get rid of destink. aside from that keep everything in tact.
prediction: they dont do anything and keep everyone because thats the way they do business. and next year will be more of the same.
btw, way not to play nick young, only your best shooter next to caron. good job.
maybe you can trade him for another destink.

Posted by: dk | May 2, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Don't u tards loving having a team that brings a smile to your face with their antics?

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:35 PM

well, actually sir, im sick and tired of all the smile if we get our butt kick in the first round every year. we never was a great team with arenas anyway, and never will be. the regular season and playoff record speak for themselves

Posted by: ak47 | May 2, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

And another thing to you stupids who think that this team need only build around butler--look what happened this game today. Butler isn't primetime like Arenas is. He kept settling for jumpers till the end, you think arenas woulda done that? Butler is great and he is tough, but Arenas is the real deal in terms of bringing it when adversity strikes. You fannnntassstic fans forget that this team was #1 when the big 3 performed their magic act together. I suggest you pessimistic bums take the wrenches out of your brain so the gears can start churning smoothly again.

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

hard to say if Jordan should get canned.

on the one hand, he got them to the playoffs again. wasn't long ago just that much would have been consider a great feat. he also got them there with his best players injured a huge percentage of the time. also, he's rarely had his best players playing in the playoffs, which is a pretty signficant handicap.

on the other hand, the wizards play with little discipline. they can never play a whole game without throwing up a bunch of 3s indiscrimitively, or stop playing defense. got to look at the coach on those, although the players could be incorrigible.

it's not cut and dry. if i had an outstanding candidate in hand, i'd have to think pretty hard about it.

Posted by: stevie | May 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Ivan,

You know what the deal is: keep the nucleus intact. We saw EG on WPL today and he straight up said we're signing Arenas and Jamison, so there shouldn't be any drama.

Posted by: Adam | May 2, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

An Ode to the Washington Witnesses

By Amar Panchmatia | May 2nd, 2008

E-mail | Print | Share

Now that we've made an annual tradition out of the Cleveland Cavaliers beating the Washington Witnesses in the first round of the playoffs, it's time to honor the recipients of this rare and unique treatment.

Let's face it: it's hard to lose to one damn team in the postseason over and over again. Yet, the Witnesses have achieved this feat flawlessly. They lost in six to a Cavs team that was a playoff virgin in '06. They were hurt and undermanned in getting swept out by the James Gang in '07. And they trash-talked, cheap-shotted, and whined their way to another six-game loss in '08.

Truly versatile. My hat is off to Eddie Jordan, Gilbert Arenas, and the rest of the Witnesses for creating an art form out of losing to LeBron James. The only thing left is giving your fans infinite hope that this...might...be...the...year you beat King James and forcing it to seven games, only to lose to LeBron in Game 7.

Hey, that's what 2009 is for.

These Witnesses, however, have been the most special group of them all. So special, in fact, that each one of them deserves a special farewell salute as they go home early for summer vacation courtesy of the Cavs yet again.

Gilbert Arenas: Remember these words?

"I think everybody wants Cleveland in that first round. They've been a .500 team ever since they made that trade and everybody wants a chance at that matchup...We want Cleveland for our own reasons, we don't think they can beat us in the playoffs three years straight. It's hard to beat a team three years straight. We want to try our luck."

Well, the Cavs were a .667 team in the postseason against your Witnesses, Gilbert. That's actually worse than the .800 winning percentage they've had against your squad as the previous two postseasons combined, so I see your point about Cleveland getting worse. You may want to think twice before calling out a team that has your number again and again and again. Especially when that team has a player that eats you for breakfast, brunch, lunch, mid-afternoon snacks, supper, dinner, and still won't leave any of you left over for midnight snacks.

"Everybody wants Cleveland in that first round." Sure, that might be true, but you're the Washington Witnesses. The last thing you want is a playoff series with LeBron James.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Brenda Haywood: Today, we salute you, Brenda. Pioneers like you and Laura Hughes have shown that the WNBA isn't the only outlet for young women looking to pursue a career in professional basketball.

Trying to mock LeBron whining and then telling him to shut up and play basketball was a true sign of leadership on your part. I mean, screw leading by example. So what if you were part of a frontcourt that was beat, 51-31, on the boards in Game 4? So what if the rest of your team was amped up for Game 4 and claimed that they wanted to win that game badly to send a message? The game came down to one last shot, anyways, so the minus-20 rebounding deficit couldn't have made that much of a difference, right?

When you average 7.5 points and 5.9 rebounds a game and then try to play the role of a safety in football in a basketball game, you're clearly qualified to tell LeBron James to "play basketball." So what if he's ended your season in convincing fashion for three straight seasons? He's the one that needs to focus on just playing basketball, not you! You tell 'em, Brenda!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Guys,


I think it's pretty obvious that we can hang with about any team without Gilbert. I'm not knocking Gil, but resigning him should not be a necessity. In addition, Jamison looked a little old and tired during crunch time of this series. I would not sign him any longer than a three year deal. I think he is a solid Co-Captain and a good model for this team. I think we desperately need to upgrade a point guard this offseason. Gil is NOT a true PG. Do we look to the draft? Do we look to Free Agency? I don't know, but I hope we don't overpay and sign Gil, and Twan to lucrative long-term deals when that is not the right move to make.

Posted by: Max (Miami) | May 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

another thing about either EJ or his players. it was obviously they would get blown out after pulling out game 5. they've done that all season, play a good one, go on vacation for the next.

so whose fault is that?

Posted by: stevie | May 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Andray Blatche: You just don't know any better, Andray. You're in your third NBA season, all of which have been with the Witnesses. A world in which your season doesn't end in the hands of Cleveland just doesn't exist to you. There's death, taxes, and losing to the Cavaliers in the first round.

Hitting LeBron in the face in Game 1 was a good start in trying to alter your destiny in life, but you can't change fate. And if I'm not mistaken, you did have a change to change your fate last offseason when you could have signed with the Cavs as a free agent. But hey, you seem to be enjoying this. Get used to it.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Caron Butler: It's too bad, Caron. I truly like you. You're one of my favorite players in the NBA, and your story is inspiring. Heck, I was pissed off when that idiot Paxson passed up on you in the '02 draft to take Dajuan Wagner at no. 6. But you're a small forward, and we've got a better one in Cleveland, so maybe everything worked out for the best, yeah?

Antawn Jamison: You're a good guy, but I'll never forget how you wrecked my chances of winning my NCAA pool back in '98 by choking against Utah. It's okay, though. I won because of Rip Hamilton and UConn the following year.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't u tards loving having a team that brings a smile to your face with their antics?

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:35 PM

well, actually sir, im sick and tired of all the smile if we get our butt kick in the first round every year. we never was a great team with arenas anyway, and never will be. the regular season and playoff record speak for themselves

Posted by: ak47 | May 2, 2008 11:42 PM

I know you got a lotta bullet points in your AK47, but don't u remember we did get to the 2nd round a couple of years ago? Do you forget that both butler and arenas were injured last year which is why last year doesn't even count in my mind. As far as getting kicked out two years ago, you know we got jobbed out of that series. But it was well-played and extremely enjoyable. This year we didn't have anyone that could close, and Arenas was hobbled the whole time. I can't believe how quick people forget about how relieved we were just to get to the playoffs after all those years where calbert cheaney was our best player. The only thing you all need to hope for is health next year and the cleveland cav-a-tears won't be a problem

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Ivan,

You know what the deal is: keep the nucleus intact. We saw EG on WPL today and he straight up said we're signing Arenas and Jamison, so there shouldn't be any drama.

Posted by: Adam | May 2, 2008 11:46 PM

we keep saying that for years now and see what happen, we always lost in the first round every time, it hard to believe that eg still want to keep the team intact..

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

we often ....

go small at the end of games and can't get the critical stops and rebounds we need to close games out

go through games without making adjustments

go through many minutes when the other team is on a run without calling a timeout.

have the least assists in the history in the princeton offense

end up settling for jumpers

and at the same time, it seems we can't develop our youth & bench. remember that mason was a tremendous college player who was a high 2nd round draft pick. injuries slowed him down. it just took him longer to find a role in the nba.


Posted by: michael | May 2, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

i think stevenson's whole stick was great. very enteraining. need more of that in sports.

anybody who thinks it had anything to do with losing the series... well, that's just ridiculous. they also think win of for the gipper speeches actually win games....

Posted by: stevie | May 2, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

and another thing, why the heck are you bums worried about who's gonna get max money or not? No money out of your pocket, obv Ernie probly knows what he's doing. I bet you all were the same toads who cried tears of joy when mitch ritchmond came here for Chris Webber.

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

youre a fool haywood's stepped up BIG this year and into the postseason--if it weren't for commish he woulda been able to do more

Posted by: haywood | May 2, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

EJ let the team get out of control.There is no way we could have gotten the benefit of some non-calls when we brought so much attention with all the talking we did.Our play although hard was percived as dirty due to our players big mouths asmuch as it was by Lebrons acting. We dont play smart.We dont exeute a game plan for more than 5 minutes and then it's a primetime show for dstevensons antics. Deshawn dont act like something your not, Youve averaged 8.7 pts for your career. You were a first round pick and youre a distraction for the professionals on this team. Please go somewhere else and help them.On the early morning of August 20, 2007, a 31-year-old man, Curtis Ruff, was shot and injured at Stevenson's home, following an argument with women that were invited from Destiny's Club in Orlando, Florida. Circumstances of the incident remain unclear.".[4]
And you are a thug

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Yahoo headline: Cavs quiet Wizards.
This Wizard will never be quiet my friend. I will hate LeBron until he retires, and then I will hate him on the street. I am a better man than LBJ. So long for this year, Stern & league-loved amigo.. some year you won't be the hottest young thing, and then I will be an NBA fan again. I can wait you travelling call-getting Mr. Butts.

Posted by: Wiz 4eva | May 2, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

my bad that was to the guy that said "dear brenda haywood"

Posted by: haywood | May 2, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice that after Haywood's foul on LeBron in the 4th, LeBron went to the sidelines holding his right eye, but was later seen putting eye drops in his left eye? hmm...

Posted by: 4th times a charm | May 2, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

I know you got a lotta bullet points in your AK47

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:49 PM

yeah, i was just frustrated that we lost again..in the first round

Posted by: ak47 | May 2, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

is pollin selling the team or something???

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

WE should write to the lithuanian embassy and complain about how the NBA just jobbed Songaila out of the game for smacking the king Cavs are Queers James.

Posted by: the real deal | May 2, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

we need more character on this team not more characters

Posted by: Anonymous | May 2, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Darius getting suspended in tonights game is a major disappointment and embarrassment for the entire league. It changed the whole aspect of the game. Is he the star of the Wizards? No, but he is a veteran player who doesnt play scared and puts in valuable minutes. He was not allowed in the building either. What? With that said, Cleveland shot great tonight. Wally finally showed up for a game and Delonte was amazing again. LeBron is a beast!!! He does not need the help of the NBA upper management. If the Cavs shoot this good they will be hard to stop. I love the Wizards, a fan since 1984, but this series has put a sour taste in my mouth for NBA basketball.
I hate to say it but the Wiz need a shake up. With Brendon stepping up and becoming a solid center, Roger becoming a solid bench player, and the young players showing flashes of serious ballin and Caron wanting to be the main man. It's time to move on. Clear the salary cap space of Zero, and AJ. I would love to sign AJ again but not for league max. We need a point guard who passes before he shoots. I know, tough to find.
I think Zero needs to grow up a bit. He also is uncoachable. I do not question his heart or ability but he will have to change the way he operates if he wants to go to the next level. Be professional Gil. I love you man but you need to more of a team player and leader. Listen to coach and be respectful.

Posted by: richerich | May 3, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

We ARE a better team with Arenas. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply incompetent. The only reason we appeared to be better off without him in the line up is because for the entire season, the Wizards got used to playing without Agent 0. When he comes back, it throws the team chemistry off. If we could go a full year with no serious injury problems, we've got championship caliber talent

Posted by: 4th times a charm | May 3, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

And last but certainly not least...

DeShawn Stevenson: Hova can take this...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A NEW OWNER OR SOMETHING??

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Why are we whining about Lebron? is that the reason we lost? Im sure thats what our team would like us to think.Maybe when he retires we can win a game.Wake up fans

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

"That's my nigga LeBron
So big we ain't gotta respond
When ya talking to a Don
Please have respect like you talking to your mom."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

"That's my nigga LeBron
So big we ain't gotta respond
When ya talking to a Don
Please have respect like you talking to your mom."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

"That's my nigga LeBron
So big we ain't gotta respond
When ya talking to a Don
Please have respect like you talking to your mom."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Why are we whining about Lebron? is that the reason we lost? Im sure thats what our team would like us to think.Maybe when he retires we can win a game.Wake thefup fans

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

The Curse of Les Boulez continues...

Let's face it, the Bullets/Wizards are never going to be contenders as long as it's a second rate organization. And they're going to be a second rate organization as long as Abe Pollin owns the team. With all due respect to the man who built the Verizon Center, we need an owner with the vision, patience and open checkbook to build a winning team. One need only look to what Ted has done with the Caps to know what's wrong with the Bullets/Wizards.

It's time for Abe to retire and sell the team to someone who can build a professional organization. 30 years of mediocrity and cronyism is enough.

Posted by: Long-Time Bullets Fan | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

"That's my nigga LeBron
So big we ain't gotta respond
When ya talking to a Don
Please have respect like you talking to your mom."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

i dont' see any reason to be so down about this series, the wiz got jobbed big time by the actor/part-time nba player Lebron Dames. If we had Gil he coulda grilled up the cleveland calfs on his hibachi!

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Why are we whining about Lebron? is that the reason we lost? Im sure thats what our team would like us to think.Maybe when he retires we can win a game.Wake thefup fans

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

The Curse of Les Boulez continues...

Let's face it, the Bullets/Wizards are never going to be contenders as long as it's a second rate organization. And they're going to be a second rate organization as long as Abe Pollin owns the team. With all due respect to the man who built the Verizon Center, we need an owner with the vision, patience and open checkbook to build a winning team. One need only look to what Ted has done with the Caps to know what's wrong with the Bullets/Wizards.

It's time for Abe to retire and sell the team to someone who can build a professional organization. 30 years of mediocrity and cronyism is enough.

Posted by: Long-Time Bullets Fan | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

OK, 2 possible sign & trades which seem to make sense for both teams:

1. The get bigger idea: Gilbert for Elton Brand. Shift AJ to the 3, Caron to the 2.
2. The replacement idea: Gilbert for Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich. This might overload the Wiz at the 2.

Posted by: DOC | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

"We ARE a better team with Arenas. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply incompetent. The only reason we appeared to be better off without him in the line up is because for the entire season, the Wizards got used to playing without Agent 0. When he comes back, it throws the team chemistry off. If we could go a full year with no serious injury problems, we've got championship caliber talent

Posted by: 4th times a charm | May 3, 2008 12:01 AM "

Keep dreaming.

Wiz don't need Arenas. Wiz need an inside presence at the 4 who can keep the defense honest and play defense himself.

Arenas is washed up as a player. A player who relies on quickness is done once his wheels get hurt. Arenas has proven to be in injury prone, and the Wiz would be stupid to pay big money for a guard who's broken down like Arenas.

Posted by: FLOP CITY | May 3, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

The Curse of Les Boulez continues...

Let's face it, the Bullets/Wizards are never going to be contenders as long as it's a second rate organization. And they're going to be a second rate organization as long as Abe Pollin owns the team. With all due respect to the man who built the Verizon Center, we need an owner with the vision, patience and open checkbook to build a winning team. One need only look to what Ted has done with the Caps to know what's wrong with the Bullets/Wizards.

It's time for Abe to retire and sell the team to someone who can build a professional organization. 30 years of mediocrity and cronyism is enough.

Posted by: Long-Time Bullets Fan | May 3, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

i think stevenson's whole stick was great. very enteraining. need more of that in sports.

anybody who thinks it had anything to do with losing the series... well, that's just ridiculous. they also think win of for the gipper speeches actually win games....

Posted by: stevie | May 2, 2008 11:53 PM

Thats why we have the WWF

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Ivan,

You know what the deal is: keep the nucleus intact. We saw EG on WPL today and he straight up said we're signing Arenas and Jamison, so there shouldn't be any drama.

Posted by: Adam | May 2, 2008 11:46 PM

God I hope not! If it didn't work for three years then what make anyone think it will ever work? If Ernie do try to keep them then he's should too resign. I know Arena want the Wiz to sign Jamsion just like he wanted us to sign Deshaw but what have Arena done for us lately? Time to put a foot in his mouth and let him know who's the boss. Afterall, it sucks having a Cav fan coming in here mocking us. What can we say if the Wiz havn't backed their talk?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

"We let the money do the talkin'
As you see, we been talkin' rather often
The Roc boys in the building another $150 million
Don't it sound like we yellin'?"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

OK, 2 possible sign & trades which seem to make sense for both teams:

1. The get bigger idea: Gilbert for Elton Brand. Shift AJ to the 3, Caron to the 2.
2. The replacement idea: Gilbert for Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich. This might overload the Wiz at the 2.

Posted by: DOC | May 3, 2008 12:05 AM

well, how bout arenas for a high draft pick (i bet lot of lowly teams will show interest) so maybe we can select derek rose for pg, and get another players to make the salary equal

aj can't play 3, he too slow and he can't defend quicker forward, and how bout gilbert for hinrich, thomas, (dang (or gordon))

Posted by: ak 47 | May 3, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey Wiz fans, don't stop now! Keep that whining going! You guys are the best at it! Maybe you should watch the King in his next series, and keep whining every time he gets punched in the face and the refs call it. Oh, it's so unfair! And tell that Brenda Haywood if you see him that he's the weakest post defender of all time. If I saw him in a pickup game, I would take it straight at him every time.

Better luck next year, losers.

Posted by: DC is for Losers | May 3, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

"That's my nigga LeBron
So big we ain't gotta respond
When ya talking to a Don
Please have respect like you talking to your mom."

thanks d-shawn there's nothing i like better than gangster rap lyrics when i want to read about my team

heres some mo lyrics
shut yo mouf you overpaid douche

i couldnt think of anything to ryme with douche -my bad

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Hey Wiz fans, don't stop now! Keep that whining going! You guys are the best at it! Maybe you should watch the King in his next series, and keep whining every time he gets punched in the face and the refs call it. Oh, it's so unfair! And tell that Brenda Haywood if you see him that he's the weakest post defender of all time. If I saw him in a pickup game, I would take it straight at him every time.

Better luck next year, losers.

Posted by: DC is for Losers | May 3, 2008 12:12 AM

well, at least ur guys won't be winning nba championship either ur fool! just like us haha

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

The reason I believe so many people have lost faith in Eddie has to do with the fact that each loss in this series seemed like the same game. There were consistent themes to our play that killed us, and it was hard to believe they could continue killing themselves in the same exact ways.

-Deshawn jacking up 3's after steals, or at emotional moments when you KNEW he didn't have the mental toughness to hit them

-Lebron passing out of double teams for wide open three's that were consistently drained

-Cleveland abusing the wizards on the offensive boards by SIMPLY tipping balls out instead of trying to grab rebounds

-absolutely no offensive strategy whatsoever by the wizards, who were completely unprepared for the double teams used by Cleveland, and didn't even bother to adjust

-a lack of emotional control by our starters when reacting to anything positive or negative. over celebrating shots and a never ending stream of talk with the officials about no calls

All of this screams terrible coaching to me. please tell me i'm wrong, I wish i didn't believe this but it seems undeniable at this point.

Posted by: zach | May 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

"Commonly, people believe that defeat is characterized by a general bustle and a feverish rush. Bustle and rush are the signs of victory, not of defeat. Victory is a thing of action. It is a house in the act of being built. Every participant in victory sweats and puffs, carrying the stones for the building of the house. But defeat is a thing of weariness, of incoherence, of boredom. And above all of futility."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

"Dusting is a good example of the futility of trying to put things right. As soon as you dust, the fact of your next dusting has already been established."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Wiz Brass needs to decide what kind of a "better team" they want next year:

(a) a "better team" in the sense of your 5 guys on the floor acting as a single, cohesive unit, in which case you get as much as you can in exchange for Gil; continue to develop Mason, Blache, Young and Songalia to go with a Caron/AJ/Haywood core; draft for height and defense; maybe squeeze another year or two from Daniels; and keep Eddie on as Coach;
or
(b) a "better team" in the sense of offensive firepower, in which case you keep Gil (assuming his knee is truly OK); get a new coach who emphasizes a run-and-gun approach; trade AD/AJ/Song/Etan for the best value you can get; and develop Blache, Young, Dominic, (maybe Mason) and new additions & draft picks selected for speed and open-floor ability.

Or we can stay the course and likely end up in the playoffs once again next year, and be bounced from the first round once again next year.

G.

Posted by: gwmmbm | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Hey Wizards fans, Lebron is a great player, so great that he trumps your big 3. How many times does he have to prove it to you. I think he has earned your respect by now. But will you give it to him. Probably not. Maybe you could try respecting Boobie Gibson. Or Z?

Posted by: paulclevo | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

"A constant smirk upon the face, and a whiffing activity of the body, are strong indications of futility."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

"Futility: playing a harp before a buffalo"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

"It occurred to me that my speech or my silence, indeed any action of mine, would be a mere futility"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

All of this screams terrible coaching to me. please tell me i'm wrong, I wish i didn't believe this but it seems undeniable at this point.

Posted by: zach | May 3, 2008 12:15 AM

Zach dont you know its the officals fault along with LebronsOur coach is fine. Our team is fine.Next year we will tell Lebron that he is really really overated and hope for the best at least a catchy rap tune

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

If it looks like sh*t and smells like sh*t its sh*t

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

"A constant smirk upon the face, and a whiffing activity of the body, are strong indications of futility."

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM

"Futility: playing a harp before a buffalo"

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:17 AM

"It occurred to me that my speech or my silence, indeed any action of mine, would be a mere futility"

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:18 AM

Zach dont you know its the officals fault along with LebronsOur coach is fine. Our team is fine.Next year we will tell Lebron that he is really really overated and hope for the best at least a catchy rap tune

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:18 AM

WELL, HOPE U HAVE FUN CAUSE LEBRON WONT BE STAYING IN CLEVELAND FOR LONG. SO HOPE U ENJOY THIS ONE TINY MOMENT

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

We have too many high sounding words, and too few actions that correspond.

-- Abigail Adams

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

I got a rap for this idiot copying and pasting some trash rhymes from Bay-B.

Lebron james sucks his thumb like a baby,
actin like he got hit on the head maybe,
he gets coddled by the refs like a fragile lady,
If no call? then he froths like he has rabies!!
he's the face of the league and acts above it all,
but he's so immature i'm surprised he doesn't crawl!
he may not be a bum, but he sure sucks a lot,
and you'll find out when he has to take a big shot!

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

"A constant smirk upon the face, and a whiffing activity of the body, are strong indications of futility."

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM

who dug up mark twain

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Well, we are just too inconsistent right now to do anything in the playoffs. We can't escape that we're still just a glorified .500 team. Some think it's about Eddie, but I don't.

I think you have to have the right players as well as the system to maximize them.

You can take a negative view of things and say that this team is a bunch of overpaid underachievers with a weak coach who will never get past the first round of the playoffs.

But even that has the seeds of something positive in it - it's better to make the playoffs than to not make them - and we've made them 3 years in a row.

Guess what? Either way, Ernie knows what we need on the floor, and he'll get it. We still need another big, strong, athletic player who isn't an offensive liability, and we need more overall toughness, both mental and physical.

Whether the guys we have can develop into that, or whether he needs to go out and get it - I trust that he will. He got Songaila, and I like his game for this team. Too bad we didn't have him tonight.

I think Butler took too long to show up tonight, but I still like him for this team. He needs to get physically stronger and tougher so he can be at full strength next year. He also needs to augment the pull-up and catch- and-shoot dimensions of his game.

How can Jamison be washed up? He averages a double double. I like Antawn Jamison and I can't imagine a team that he wouldn't improve in some way, but it's a question of money. However, you get Gil cheaper if you pay Antawn first - Gil said so.

I like Gil too. How can we get rid of a talent like that? Unless he can't come all the way back, and I don't think that's the case.

I'm sick of Haywood, but if Eddie and Ernie want to give him another year, ok.

Blatche is good
Songaila is good
Mason is good
Young is nice
McGuire is raw and can't shoot. Maybe he'll improve next year.
Deshawn...well now...what about him? He's no Bruce Bowen on D, he's inconsistent, and a loudmouth too.

I say keep him anyway. He comes cheap, shows up every day, plays hard, hits free throws, does a little bit of everything including 3's.

He just needs a home.

What about the Poet? Where does he fit in?

Pecherov is showing signs of life. I can't see leaving him off the roster next year, with his size and ability.

Ernie is very competent, and he will only stand pat if he is sure that the team is on an uptrend. Stay tuned.

As of now, we have a perennial playoff team. We'll just have to live with that.

Posted by: Tom deSabla | May 3, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Hey Wizards fans, Lebron is a great player, so great that he trumps your big 3. How many times does he have to prove it to you. I think he has earned your respect by now. But will you give it to him. Probably not. Maybe you could try respecting Boobie Gibson. Or Z?

Posted by: paulclevo | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM

Paul clevo or whatever your name is, don't you need to get back to the actor's studio to find out where Lebron Thames gets his motivation???

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Lebron james sucks his thumb like a baby,
actin like he got hit on the head maybe,
then throws down a triple double on our asses and sends us home

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Honestly i feel we would have beat the cavs if stevenson would have just kept his mouth closed and played ball!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Homeboy aint going nowhere. Maybe the Cavs will sign Antawn Jamison next year. Would that be a kick in the teeth or what? ROTFLMAO

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Lebron james sucks his thumb like a baby,
actin like he got hit on the head maybe,
then throws down a triple double on our asses and sends us home

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:25 AM

How dare you mess up my rap by adding 900 extra syllables to your line? WE were already home, how did Lebron send us back? I think we just sent you home, so get back to Cleveland and rub the streets with your straw hat you ragamuffin!!!

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

WELL, HOPE U HAVE FUN CAUSE LEBRON WONT BE STAYING IN CLEVELAND FOR LONG. SO HOPE U ENJOY THIS ONE TINY MOMENT

Im sorry im a wizards fan

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

o v e r r a t e d!!! 27 points 13 rebounds 13 assist

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

-- Akhenaton

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.

-- Catherine Aird

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

IM SORRY YOURE A WIZZARDS FAN ALSO!!!! CLEVELANDS FINESt

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

How dare you mess up my rap by adding 900 extra syllables to your line? WE were already home, how did Lebron send us back? I think we just sent you home, so get back to Cleveland and rub the streets with your straw hat you ragamuffin!!!

I did like your rap did you write that on the fly
If i add something else I will try to do it justice i thought what i wrote was funny

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Homeboy aint going nowhere. Maybe the Cavs will sign Antawn Jamison next year. Would that be a kick in the teeth or what? ROTFLMAO

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:26 AM

WELL, I HOPE U HAVE UR LITTLE WONDERFUL TIME CAUSE IM SURE ITS ONE OF THE PROUDEST SPORT MOMENT IN CLEVELAND HISTORY, THE CITY IS A LOSER, NO WONDER WHY UR GUYS PRAISE LEBRON AS UR KING SO THAT HE WOULDNT GO ELSEWHERE; IM SURE HE WILL AT SOME POINT

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

o v e r r a t e d!!! 27 points 13 rebounds 13 assist

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:28 AM

That is overrated, I woulda had a triple double against the Wiz today seeing as to how they kept jacking up 3s. The fact is that you idiot Cav-Nots keep thinking that you beat us at full-strength. You just faced He-Man without his sword basically, next year will destroy death skull James and in such a way that there will be a multitude of Wiz fans in Cleveland. And those Wiz fans will throw tomatoes at the actor King Lames till he weeps in tears of V-8 in his oversized sunglasses. Muuhooo haahahah clevland!!!!

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.

-- Marcus Aurelius

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

-- Akhenaton

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:29 AM

Wisdom lies in never paying full price for late pizza.

-Michaelangelo from Ninja turtles

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Do you think deshawna is bitter because he too came straight outta highschool to the n.b.a. but didnt quite pan out like he expected,and maybe lebron james reminds him of what he never will be?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

WELL, I HOPE U HAVE UR LITTLE WONDERFUL TIME CAUSE IM SURE ITS ONE OF THE PROUDEST SPORT MOMENT IN CLEVELAND HISTORY, THE CITY IS A LOSER, NO WONDER WHY UR GUYS PRAISE LEBRON AS UR KING SO THAT HE WOULDNT GO ELSEWHERE; IM SURE HE WILL AT SOME POINT

go get marion barry some crack some hoes and a tax attorney

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Keep Arenas and build around him. He's a superstar. Hope that Arenas can do after knee-surgery what he did before.

Get rid of either Jamison or Butler. Jamison: although his calming influence is great for the team, I think it's time to tinker and move on. We've given it a shot with Jamison and the combo of Jamison and Arenas hasn't been enough to get it done (2006). Caron, I could go either way on. Stevenson is a good player but needs to calm down, and his influence isn't good for Gilbert. Another tough call but I would keep him for another season.

I just want to see the rematch when Arenas is healthy and has another shot at LeBron in the playoffs. Maybe next year...

Posted by: James | May 3, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

"The reason I believe so many people have lost faith in Eddie has to do with the fact that each loss in this series seemed like the same game."


No, the reason is that some people have a decidedly unrealistic and borderline delusional notion that this team has the talent to contend when it flat, plain does not.

Bringing in a new coach to coach tis same group will produce similar results. This team has too many missing pieces (low post presence, physical inside presence, bench scoring, athleticism, size, individual ability to create offense) to be more than what they are no matter who coaches. Some significant changes/additions need to be made. That doesn't necessarily mean breaking up the big three, but given the teams' lack of trade-worthy assets, it may be a necessity.

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

hey real deal(youre name alone lets me know youre a joke) BUT ANYWAY ALL YOU TALK ABOUT IS NEXT YEAR HMMMMMM I WONDER HOW MANY TIMES YOUVE SAID THAT? LET ME TAKE A WILD GUESS THREE YEARS IN A ROW!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

"Pecherov is showing signs of life. I can't see leaving him off the roster next year, with his size and ability."

Uh ... what ability?

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Homeboy aint going nowhere. Maybe the Cavs will sign Antawn Jamison next year. Would that be a kick in the teeth or what? ROTFLMAO

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:26 AM

WELL, I HOPE U HAVE UR LITTLE WONDERFUL TIME CAUSE IM SURE ITS ONE OF THE PROUDEST SPORT MOMENT IN CLEVELAND HISTORY, THE CITY IS A LOSER, NO WONDER WHY UR GUYS PRAISE LEBRON AS UR KING SO THAT HE WOULDNT GO ELSEWHERE; IM SURE HE WILL AT SOME POINT

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:32 AM

Wishful thinking. Harsh words about our fine city coming from a city that RE-ElECTED Marion Berry! LMAO Ah Cleveland, youve got to be tough:)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

go get marion barry some crack some hoes and a tax attorney

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:36 AM

well, i can only get that from ur mama biathhh

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Lebron james sucks his thumb like a baby,
actin like he got hit on the head maybe,
then throws down a triple double on our asses and sends us home from the arena wondering why we bought a ticket
if they play like this next year i think we'll picket

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

THE CLOSEST WASHINGTON HAS EVER CAME TO A PLAYER ON LEBRONS LEVEL WAS SHEED AND HE SAYS HE DONT REMEMBER EVEN PLAYING THERE!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Pecherov is showing signs of life. I can't see leaving him off the roster next year, with his size and ability."

Uh ... what ability?

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 12:39 AM

keep pecherov...........that dude can not play period!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

go get marion barry some crack some hoes and a tax attorney

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:36 AM

well, i can only get that from ur mama biathhh

Dad is that you?mom wants her child support

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

hey real deal(youre name alone lets me know youre a joke) BUT ANYWAY ALL YOU TALK ABOUT IS NEXT YEAR HMMMMMM I WONDER HOW MANY TIMES YOUVE SAID THAT? LET ME TAKE A WILD GUESS THREE YEARS IN A ROW!!!!!

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:39 AM

hey "Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:39 AM" if you want a CAPS attack come to DC!!! And I do talk about next year just like you will be after this next series when Queen Lames gets so confused for not getting the same calls as she got this series that she has a hissy fit and stomps of the court to the song "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to". Trust me, if Gil was 100% this series woulda been won in a jiffy. We woulda skunked you in fact, by beating you each game by an average of 150 points.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

I love a good rank-out

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Gil woulda had a 150 point game and Deshawn woulda had 100 steals.

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

It hurts to see my team lose, but they played an exciting season. Those wins against the Celtics will be burned in my memory for a long time to come. Hope to see everyone healthy next year, and to see some development from the younger players.

My wish list:

Arenas - learns to play more without the ball, and in particular, learns to set Caron up with easy buckets. If Kobe can learn to do this, so can Gilbert. But he's going to have to stop relying on long-distance jumpers, he can't effectively distribute the ball standing still at the three point line.

Antawn - stays healthy, picks up the defensive pressure a little. A 20 & 10 guy who can get blocks and steals - you couldn't ask for much more.

Caron - ditto, + learns how to remain assertive while playing alongside Gilbert, and focuses on getting to the hole more often. I know that his injuries bothered him in this series, but he disappeared completely for stretches, and that can't happen. He's got to become more consistent.

Blatche - gets more consistent in his shooting, and gets more confident. His talent is remarkable, but he'll never get to show it if he can't play more.

Nick Young - learns to play defense, particularly against larger opponents. It's the only way he'll ever see any minutes.

Dom McGuire - plays more offense, and increases his speed/quickness, and ball-handling, and shooting. The only thing we've seen him do well is make hustle plays on defense.

Pecherov - gets back to rebounding, and develops his shot. If he can get back to being the rebounder, they can find time for him on the court.

Roger Mason - works on his quickness and strength. If Mason develops a slasher mentality, he could be very tough to guard. Right now he's more catch & shoot from a standstill.

Antonio Daniels - stays healthy, and learns to work off of screens more effectively. He can shoot it, it's just a matter of breaking free from younger, quicker defenders.

Haywood - continues to develop that 10-foot jumper, and gets better at moving with the ball. You can't ask a whole lot more than what he gave this season, we saw great improvements from him. I'd like to see him getting more involved on offense. If Tyson Chandler can be made to look like a dominant presence, then I see no reason Haywood can't become a more consistent offensive threat.

Deshawn - develops his quickness and passing, and works on finishing inside. He can shoot it from 3, but can he take his man off the dribble? We didn't see much of that this season.


Posted by: satch | May 3, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

fYes, Gil woulda had a 150 point game and Deshawn woulda had 100 steals.

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:45 AM

from some wallets

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

WHY ARE YOU WIZARD (LOSER) FANS SO BITTER? YOU ARE HYPOCRYTS YOU SAY LEBRONS A CRY BABY BUT ISNT THAT THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK? BECAUSE ALL I HEAR IS WHINNING WE WERENT AT FULL STRENGTH-THE REFS ARE CHEATING-WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR-I WANT MY MOMMY!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Alexander Mueller:
"Just as a person's attitude can be hidden from him, i.e. unconscious, so can his true goals. This can often lead to the impression that the human psyche is a field replete with inconsistent, even contrary strivings. Although the unity of the psyche has not been sufficiently explored, experience has demonstrated very clearly: when being dominated or possessed by whatever is perceived to be alien to the 'I', man is a partner - 'when man permits himself to be dominated by his passions ...' (Berdyayev). We are not dominated by anything, but we can allow ourselves to be captured by something and thus be made into an object. Feelings, forces, powers apparently can break into our conscious life autonomically and slow it down, paralyze it, or negate it (c'est plus fort que moi). They will seem to be overpowering, because man cannot admit to being possessed by them since they are contrary to his self-ideal or touch his feelings of self-worth; or his behavior and activities can be carried on only when the goals are left in the unconscious, hidden."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Dad is that you?mom wants her child support

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:43 AM

oh ok im washingtonian, i guess that how clevelanian's mom is makin money diz day

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

WHY ARE YOU WIZARD (LOSER) FANS SO BITTER? YOU ARE HYPOCRYTS YOU SAY LEBRONS A CRY BABY BUT ISNT THAT THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK? BECAUSE ALL I HEAR IS WHINNING WE WERENT AT FULL STRENGTH-THE REFS ARE CHEATING-WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR-I WANT MY MOMMY!!!!

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:47 AM

Hold on your mom will be done in a few minutes

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Hey Wizards fans, Lebron is a great player, so great that he trumps your big 3. How many times does he have to prove it to you. I think he has earned your respect by now. But will you give it to him. Probably not. Maybe you could try respecting Boobie Gibson. Or Z?

Posted by: paulclevo | May 3, 2008 12:16 AM

It's truly DIFFICULT to respect any guy who calls himself "Boobie." What a stupid name.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

I suggest you Crab fans bring it a little better so I can continue denying you like I was allergic to seafood! No iodine please!!! I'ma make another rap in fact...

The Cav-a-Tears fans comebacks are so lame,
they just love the bum cry me a "river thames"
your star player is boring, bland, and just blames
the ref when with every touch foul he comes up lame.
He travels so much he must have mileage for China
anyone w/ 2 eyes and 20/20 can see he's a whina!

Come at me Cavs fans whatchoo got!!!!

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

"Winning is not a sometime thing, it's an all time thing. You don't win once in a while, you don't do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time. Winning is habit. Unfortunately, so is losing."

Vince Lombardi

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

TICIKETS 30$ REFRESHMENTS 20$ CAVS LEBRON JAMES JERSEY 60$ THE SOUND AT THE VERIZON CENTER AT THE END OF GAME 6 PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Alexander Mueller:
"Just as a person's attitude can be hidden from him, i.e. unconscious, so can his true goals. This can often lead to the impression that the human psyche is a field replete with inconsistentuoting all"

jesus dont you have to vote on the farm bill tomorrow take your congressional ass to bed

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

I suggest you Crab fans bring it a little better so I can continue denying you like I was allergic to seafood! No iodine please!!! I'ma make another rap in fact...

The Cav-a-Tears fans comebacks are so lame,
they just love the bum cry me a "river thames"
your star player is boring, bland, and just blames
the ref when with every touch foul he comes up lame.
He travels so much he must have mileage for China
anyone w/ 2 eyes and 20/20 can see he's a whina!

Come at me Cavs fans whatchoo got!!!!

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:52 AM

Don't quit your government job.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

hey real deal S C O R E B O A R D!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

I can tell leP-U James was a football player, he's great with the 3-5 step drops...

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

The Cav-a-Tears fans comebacks are so lame,
they just love the bum cry me a "river thames"
your star player is boring, bland, and just blames
the ref when with every touch foul he comes up lame.
He travels so much he must have mileage for China
anyone w/ 2 eyes and 20/20 can see he's a whina!

Come at me Cavs fans whatchoo got!!!!

thats pretty good give me a few. Im a middle aged white guy who cant ryme

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

SCORE BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Im a middle aged white guy
that lebron can really fly
my rap isnt as deep as lebron three
but the cavs next series you can see

as long as u pay your cable bill

is that anygood

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

S C O R E B O A R D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Im a middle aged white guy
that lebron can really fly
my rap isnt as deep as lebron three
but the cavs next series you can see

as long as u pay your cable bill

is that anygood

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:58 AM

AWESOME! For real

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

hey real deal S C O R E B O A R D!!!!

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:55 AM

Hey "Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:55 AM" I don't see a scoreboard in my house. THe scorecard is currently Washington DC 1000 and Cleveland 0. The Cleveland Cav-Arrears need to lien on the refs if they're gonna win the next series like they won this won wink wink wink wink

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Im a middle aged white guy
that lebron can really fly
my rap isnt as deep as lebron three
but the cavs next series you can see

as long as u pay your cable bill

is that anygood

thats friggin funny

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

HEY WIZZRD FANS DONT GO AWAY MAD JUST GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Im a middle aged white guy
that lebron can really fly
my rap isnt as deep as lebron three
but the cavs next series you can see

as long as u pay your cable bill

is that anygood

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:58 AM

AWESOME! For real

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:59 AM

It's about as AWESOME and BODACIOUS and RADICAL dude as surfing the waves in cleveland pond! Gnarly!!!! BTW I'm not white nor middle aged...

EL O EL

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

THE REFS ARE CHEATING THE REFS ARE CHEATING IT ISNT FAIR. ARE YOU SHURE YOURE NOT A CRY BABY???????????

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Im a middle aged white guy
that lebron can really fly
my rap isnt as deep as lebron three
but the cavs next series you can see

as long as u pay your cable bill

is that anygood

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:58 AM

AWESOME! For real

seriously did u like that
im pretty sure thats all ive got

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

THE REFS ARE CHEATING THE REFS ARE CHEATING IT ISNT FAIR. ARE YOU SHURE YOURE NOT A CRY BABY???????????

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:02 AM

I AM A CRYBABY I HAVE A GOOD CRY WITH LEBRON EVERYTIME MY SUNGLASSES STOP FITTING MY HEAD DUE TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF HGH I'VE BEEN INJECTING INTO MY BUTT MUSCLES.

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE. WAIT A MINUTE THERE IS NO BRIGHT SIDE LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

I was surfing in the cleveland pond
the wizards lost their majic wand
I would try to find it real quick
because Deshawn was sucking Lebrons di*k

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

I think I've riled you Cavs fans up to the point where you're raving mad and tearing at your shirts and looking like those zombies in 28 weeks later. I suggest you all get some help.

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

and he got some white stuff stuck in his cough drop box looking beard

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

TELL ME WHY THE WIZARS FANS HAVENT BEEN YELLING OVERRATTED SINCE GAME THREE? MAYBE ITS BECAUSE ITS LIKE LEBRON SAID "ITS FUNNY TO ME BECAUSE THEY DONT EVEN BELEIVE IT"

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Goodnight Cavs fan, I just want to let you know you lost. You have officially been beaten worse than a horse in a glue factory. It's ok, there's always next year though.

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

I think I've riled you Cavs fans up to the point where you're raving mad and tearing at your shirts and looking like those zombies in 28 weeks later. I suggest you all get some help.

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 1:06 AM

hey real deal im ok
just trying to have some fun
nice chatting wit u

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

The whizzed on fans whining is so lame,
cry me a river the results are the same
You blame everything but your sorry ass team
deny the great one we call king
you got nothing he got the bling
keep on watching fool as he grabs the ring

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

goodnight now

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Im a middle aged white guy
that lebron can really fly
my rap isnt as deep as lebron three
but the cavs next series you can see

as long as u pay your cable bill

is that anygood

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:58 AM

AWESOME! For real

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:59 AM

It's about as AWESOME and BODACIOUS and RADICAL dude as surfing the waves in cleveland pond! Gnarly!!!! BTW I'm not white nor middle aged...

EL O EL

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 1:00 AM

Hmm, a self revelation?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

The whizzed on fans whining is so lame,
cry me a river the results are the same
You blame everything but your sorry ass team
deny the great one we call king
you got nothing he got the bling
keep on watching fool as he grabs the ring

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:09 AM

thats a good one

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

HEY MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD GET THAT COOL LOOKING WIZARD FROM THE ALTELL COMERCIAL TO BE YOU GUYS MASCOT FOR NEXT YEAR

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Im a middle aged white guy
that lebron can really fly
my rap isnt as deep as lebron three
but the cavs next series you can see

as long as u pay your cable bill

is that anygood

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 12:58 AM

AWESOME! For real

seriously did u like that
im pretty sure thats all ive got

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:02 AM

I think you have much more in you, unlike the sorry ass wizzards

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

GOOD NIGHT WASHINGTON BETTER LUKE NEXT YEAR AND OH YEAH NICE TOUGH GUY IMPERSINATION!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

I think you have much more in you, unlike the sorry ass wizzards


Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:14 AM

im not a professional rapper

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

HEY MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD GET THAT COOL LOOKING WIZARD FROM THE ALTELL COMERCIAL TO BE YOU GUYS MASCOT FOR NEXT YEAR

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:12 AM

I like it! Maybe they should bulk him up a bit though

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

All this junk about Lebron James being the "king", and all the fans being "witnesses", and the trash commercials riffing on religious themes, the ads with the crucifix postures, etc., is offensive. In fact, it's heretical. Why would Cavs fans be surprised that so many people hate their star player? He's all but claimed to be Jesus Christ. Nevermind series trash talk, let's talk about the garbage that this man says in the name of self-promotion.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

HEY MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD GET THAT COOL LOOKING WIZARD FROM THE ALTELL COMERCIAL TO BE YOU GUYS MASCOT FOR NEXT YEAR

no way

Posted by: chad | May 3, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Chew on this Wiz fans:

-After all the talk about the officiating in the series, the Cavs were called for 139 fouls, the Wizards 137. The Cavs shot 175 free throws, the Wizards shot 174.

Fricken babies whining about the officiating the entire series. YOU ARE THE MOST UNINTELLIGENT BASKETBALL FANS ON EARTH

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

HEY MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD GET THAT COOL LOOKING WIZARD FROM THE ALTELL COMERCIAL TO BE YOU GUYS MASCOT FOR NEXT YEAR

we cant then deshawn wont have the coolest beard on the team and besides that wizrd is overrratd

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Stevenson should cut himself from the team next year. what an ass

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

wizards are cool

Posted by: dungeons and dragons fan | May 3, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

once again DC you got owned
King James was bad bad bad to the bone
you'll piss and moan 'till you can't piss no more
The Kings ownership will be a thing of lore
So shut the F@ck up and get to bed
Your B-ball season is officially dead
after all the Sh_t that was said
The crown is on the rightful head

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

i hate everyone on here, most at least, but sign antawn and gil and lets get another year under us. eddie needs to start putting faith in the bench, the bench needs to start producing, and ivan and michael lee need to report on the wizards trainers. why do are stars keep getting hurt? this isnt eddies fault (not entirely), so tell us about this training staff....or do they provide insight and tips before tip off and you dont want to rat them out.

Posted by: CreditZard | May 3, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

i hate everyone on here, most at least, but sign antawn and gil and lets get another year under us. eddie needs to start putting faith in the bench, the bench needs to start producing, and ivan and michael lee need to report on the wizards trainers. why do are stars keep getting hurt? this isnt eddies fault (not entirely), so tell us about this training staff....or do they provide insight and tips before tip off and you dont want to rat them out.

Posted by: CreditZard | May 3, 2008 1:29 AM

are you asking a serious question
dont you have anything funny to say
call a sports talk show

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

SCOREBOARD

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: CreditZard | May 3, 2008 1:29 AM

thats friggin weird my name is DebitZard are we cousins?

Posted by: debitzard | May 3, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

All this junk about Lebron James being the "king", and all the fans being "witnesses", and the trash commercials riffing on religious themes, the ads with the crucifix postures, etc., is offensive. In fact, it's heretical. Why would Cavs fans be surprised that so many people hate their star player? He's all but claimed to be Jesus Christ. Nevermind series trash talk, let's talk about the garbage that this man says in the name of self-promotion.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:19 AM

You are serious aren't you? That is so scary. Get a life loser. FYI his Jersey sales are top 5 every year. Do you think the haters are all burning them? Silly ass

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

All this junk about Lebron James being the "king", and all the fans being "witnesses", and the trash commercials riffing on religious themes, the ads with the crucifix postures, etc., is offensive. In fact, it's heretical. Why would Cavs fans be surprised that so many people hate their star player? He's all but claimed to be Jesus Christ. Nevermind series trash talk, let's talk about the garbage that this man says in the name of self-promotion.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:19 AM

You are serious aren't you? That is so scary. Get a life loser. FYI his Jersey sales are top 5 every year. Do you think the haters are all burning them? Silly ass

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:34 AM

who's gettin all religious is this Jeremia Wright

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

SCOREBOARD

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

A long summer ahead and EG is going to have some serious thinking to do. Cleveland got value for its trading spree tonight... Wally Wonder stepped up and Joe Smith had a nice game, neither of which happened on Wednesday and both of which were far more valuable contributions than the Cavs would have gotten from Gooden and Hughes.

Plus Boobie was on fire.

LeBron needed only to be the straw that stirred the drink and his triple double did that convincingly.

Do the Wizards have the courage to clean house, or does the house need to be cleaned all that much? The X factor is whether one thinks that Arenas will be intact next season. This holds whether he is to remain a Wizard or is used as trade bait for another signature player. My guess is sign him, keep him and hope he is still the real deal.

Butler is a keeper but it would be a mistake to think he is the player you can build a team around. He is for sure someone you want in your foxhole, though.

Jamison is the trading chip in all this. He is now at his peak value and needs to be packaged with a good role player like Mason and traded for a young buck with long term potential... my choice is LaMarcus Aldridge.

Haywood should stay but he should get help, which is why I think we should draft big... Hibbert is my choice but the kid from Connecticut is in the mix.

If Gilbert is the X factor then Nick Young is the Y... he is at the crossroads at a relatively early point in his career, one road says Rip Hamilton, the other says a smaller Ricky Davis... one more year to find out.

Andray Blatche should be used as trade bait now, he looked great for about two minutes tonight and then zip in what could have been his breakout game... bet you all did not realize how integral Songaila was to this team! Someone could be persuaded to give us a valuable rotation player for Blatche and we would win on that deal. Think of it as an 80% approximation of getting Butler for Brown.

Antonio Daniels is another player who, like Jamison, should be traded while he still has value. He is a fine back-up point guard and played very well for us as a fill-in starter this year; but he was unfortunately the man who made the critical error in the third quarter of tonight's game, passing up a wide-open 3 that could have brought us back into the game. Instead it morphed into a turnover that led to a Cleveland trey for a six-point turnaround. Whatever else he can or cannot do, my money says Gilbert Arenas would have taken that shot and drained it.

Last but not least is the coach. Eddie Jordan has done a good job here, but perhaps it is time to admit that he is not the one to lead the Wizards from the adequacy he has delivered to the promised land we all yearn for. D'Antoni could be the one to do it, though Toronto might be a better fit for him... I would go after him though, and make the adjustments needed to give him the type of team he can coach best. Beyond the obvious coaching skill he possesses, there is a hunger there that needs to be fed.

The East will be tougher next year for sure. Atlanta is giving Boston fits and has plenty of youth and energy. Charlotte needed someone with experience and smarts to coach their good collection of young players and perhaps Larry Brown has one more shot in him (he is a contemporary so I wish him well). Philly is not a complete fluke. And so on down the line.

The Wizards have to make some very wise choices to stay viable, much less to rise higher. Hopefully they will. They are still the team I cheer for and have been for 40 years and counting.

Posted by: khrabb | May 3, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

YEP AND I BET OLD ABE POLLIN WOULD TRADE HIS STARTING FIVE FOR LEBRON

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

As we speak superman is flying around the earth backward at a high rate of speed.
game 6 will be replayed tommorrow.

the nextel wizard

dont mention it washinton fans

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

HEY KHRAAB YOU ARE A REAL WIZARDS FAN UNLIKE EVERYONE ELSE ONLINE TALKING OUT THE SIDE OF THEIR NECKS YOU REALLY DO HAVE GOOD G.M. QUALITIES AND SEEM TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. I AM A CAVS FAN BUT BUT I LIKE ANYBODY WHO IS PASSSIONATE ABOUT WHO OR WHAT THAEY BELEIVE IN!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

NBA is run by the mafia!

Posted by: Deez Nutz | May 3, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

You all have some butt ugly Biotches in DC

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Congress should look into this ownership Cleveland has over the Wizzterds

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

All this junk about Lebron James being the "king", and all the fans being "witnesses", and the trash commercials riffing on religious themes, the ads with the crucifix postures, etc., is offensive. In fact, it's heretical. Why would Cavs fans be surprised that so many people hate their star player? He's all but claimed to be Jesus Christ. Nevermind series trash talk, let's talk about the garbage that this man says in the name of self-promotion.

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:19 AM

After a week reading stupid sh_t from Wizzaed fans I crown you the dumbest of all

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Keep Arenas on the bench and build build a wall around him. He's NOT a superstar. Hope that Arenas can sit for long periods of time after knee-surgery like he did before.

Get rid of either Jamison or Butler. Jamison: because he is the only guy on the team with any class and thats bad for the teams image, I think it's time to tinker and move on. We've given it a shot with Jamison and the combo of Jamison and Arenas hasn't been enough to get it done (2006). Caron, I could go either way on. Stevenson is not a good player, in fact he sucks but we need him to remain yhe laughing stock of the league. Another tough call but just for laughs I would keep him for another season.

I just want to see the rematch when Arenas is healthy and has another shot at LeBron in the playoffs because I am really startin to like getting our butts whipped every year. Maybe next year we can do it again.

Posted by: James | May 3, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

An All Too Familiar End

Another year, another Wizards playoff exit thanks to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

"Jamison is the trading chip in all this. He is now at his peak value and needs to be packaged with a good role player like Mason and traded for a young buck with long term potential... my choice is LaMarcus Aldridge."

Uh ... no. Not that I wouldn't love to see Aldridge in a Wiz uni, but there's no way in hell Portland makes that deal. Having already fleeced the Wiz once in a big-for-small, young-for-old trade, they aren't likely to fall for the same trick they already pulled on Washington. Not a chance. Besides, the Wizards don't have any Bird rights for Mason and as such can't include him in a sign-and-trade deal with another player.

I wouldn't have a problem with moving Arenas or Jamison in a S&T if the return was right, but the problem is that neither one of them will command value equal to what they produced for the Wizards. Arenas because of his knee and Jamison because of his age and likely high asking price. If Grunfeld moves them, he's going to end up taking back less than he gives.

There's really no plausible scenario where the Wiz can trade one of or both of them and get enough ready made talent back to actually be in a significantly better position to contend next year. Moving them means at least some degree of rebuilding which means a step or two back before moving forward.

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

From Wilbon's column in Saturday's post:

So what's the antidote to LeBron?

You have to have a great player of your own, a special player who by skill, intelligence and force of personality controls his team and yours.

That's pretty much the only way you win in the NBA, with a truly great player.

Not all-star players, or great offensive players (such as Gilbert Arenas), or terrific No. 2 players (such as Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison), but with truly dominant players, with MVP-caliber players.

And that's it in a nutshell. The Wizards don't have one, nor do they have anyone who's going to become one. Until that changes, they've got a tough road ahead.

Hey MJ, nice job with that #1 pick. Thanks loads. Good luck in Charlotte.

Posted by: kalorma | May 3, 2008 2:30 AM | Report abuse

ALthough the Wizards lack a superstar player like Lebron, Kobe or KG, the one thing that was very apparent was the poor coaching job Eddie Jordan did in game 6. Having Eddie miked up was an eye opening experience. His refusal to play Blatche more and stick with a struggling journeyman called Roger Mason Jr was just simply incompetence at the coaching position. I wonder if Mark Cuban would continue to keep a coach who has not gotten the team any further than the first round of the playoffs. It doesn't make any difference which player personnel changes you make, if Eddie Jordan doesn't change his coaching ways, the outcoume (results) will be the same.

Posted by: Tony W | May 3, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

"His refusal to play Blatche more and stick with a struggling journeyman called Roger Mason Jr was just simply incompetence at the coaching position."

Or, more accurately, it was a correct assessment of Blatche's weaknesses, a reflection of his utter inability to guard Ilgauskas on defense or take full advantage of his quickness advantage over the Cavs' big men on offense. He was overmatched at one end of the floor and settled for bad shots at the other.

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Cleveland trolls - We know you post here only because none of your local papers have a sophisticated web site. But will you continue to spam the message boards after this series? I do miss the days when I could read comments and not be forced to see a stream of uninformed, child-like taunts. I will miss the laughter, however - you do realize that Cleveland is essentially a black hole of sports misery, right? You haven't won anything, in ANY sport, for over 50 years, so let's be realistic here. LeBron took you to the finals last year, yes, but let's qualify that in 2 ways: 1.) You got swept and never actually came close to contending for the title. 2.) LeBron designed a pair of NYC sneakers, came to the Yankees-Indians game in YANKEES GEAR, and is buddying up to Jay-Z, one of the largest NEW YORK rap icons who may help relocate the Nets to Brooklyn. When that contract expires, he is on the next plane to New York, and then its back to asking God why he has foresaken you as you watch the Browns lose another heartbreaker.

Please find an appropriate website to move all your spam (Hopefully a Boston/Atlanta paper's website) so you can make your wild claims of how awesome you are to them. Washington has had enough of you making mountains out of molehills. And congrats for beating us shorthanded for the second year in a row - you just better pray that we have another major injury next season so you can keep the streak alive. Nothing like beating someone without their star player.

Will you still call him king when he betrays you?

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 3:12 AM | Report abuse

from ESPN.com

QUOTE OF THE NIGHT

"Three times in a row. It's tough. But who knows what happens if we have a healthy team? A healthy Gilbert Arenas? If we had Darius Songaila for Game 6 -- who knows what happens?"

-- Wizards guard Antonio Daniels thinking out loud about how the series could have been different.

That sounds vaguely familiar. When have I heard that before?

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

I am really surprised by some of the comments on this page, how can people still believe that the Wizards are a better team? You cannot be better if you lose three years in a row. I think there is a general misconception in the NBA that the Cavs are a one-man team. Lebron is great but one guy cannot win a playoff series, probably it is because he is so good that his supporting cast gets overlooked.

Z is a top 5 center in the league, Gibson was number 3 in the league in 3 point shooting, Wally is a career 45% 3-point shooter, this is not a bad team people.

On the Darius suspension, this guy has had no impact on the series, what makes us think tonight would have been any different. And we were lucky stevenson didnt suspended for his flagrant.

Posted by: Daniel | May 3, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

As a Cleveland fan, and also a reader of this website, I would like to say that I really admire Jamison and wish he would play for Cleveland. He is a good player and also seems like a really good person. I watched his press conference performance after they had got blown out in game two and it was very classy. Unlike Stevenson, he let his playing do the talking.

Posted by: mrgavel | May 3, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

You all have some butt ugly Biotches in DC

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 1:49 AM

Compared to Cleveland???? Cleveland????

I mean, Cleveland????

Come on now

Posted by: Whitney | May 3, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Devilish | May 2, 2008 11:01 PM

You took the words right out of my mouth. Players play, but the Coach needs to do his job also, and in this post season, and many others. EJ did not.

EJ is the reason our wizards lose by 30 and come back and win by 30. inconsistency. How many times have we seen this team lose their composure and watch E Jordan sit on the sideline basically leading the Head down we lost this game movement. My opinion, EJ is the first to give up on games (when the shots aren't falling)

BAD COACHING will kill good playing more often than not.

Posted by: ericmc1998 | May 3, 2008 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Man, I don't understand the love for Leonsis. His team missed the playoffs 5 years in a row with one of the lowest payrolls in the NHL during that time. In essence, he got mad at Jagr and took it out on the Caps fans.

Posted by: bowiemd1 | May 3, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

"if only we were at full strength", "if only the refs would have taken away Songaila", "if only the NBA was not fixed"
"if only the would have suspended LeBron" IF MY AUNT WOULD HAVE HAD BALLS SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN MY UNCLE. WHO ARE THE CRYBABIES NOW? YOUR TEAM IS INFERIOR. YOUR PLAYERS CALL OUT THE CAVS ONLY TO GET THEIR BUTTS KICKED.....AGAIN...Try again next year.....and um.....Blow the whistle

Posted by: Blow the whistle | May 3, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

C'mon Cleveland fans. Don't know why you're posting on this board since I assume there are Cavalier boards out there in Ohio. Lebron's great, kicks our butt each year. Buts he rivals Bill Laimbeer as the most unlikeable opponent I've ever seen. He gets more calls than any player in the NBA including Kobe, yet also whines, cries, and flops more than any player in the NBA. Thats why we dislike him. Y'all know that if Lebron hit Songaila with that accidental tap, there wouldn't have even been a foul called. And Songaila wouldn't have been rolling around on the floor in "pain" like Lebron. Yeah, it wouldn't have made a difference but role players deserve to be treated fairly as well. And Songaila got jobbed.

Posted by: bowiemd1 | May 3, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Once again the "overrated crybaby" put "No-D shawn" and Brenda in their place. And "agent 0" gave them just that...zero! Tell all those fans to use their white shirts for car rags after they are done crying in them. GO CAVS!

Posted by: go cavs | May 3, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I hear alot of people taking about breaking up the team. that would be very dumb. This a good team, but we need some other parts to go along with it. I like Eddie as a coach, but he lost control of this team and we need a guy who is sporting the hardware(ring) to show these guys how to win. I heard Pat Riley was stepping down. I would like to have a true point guard to run the show and a big man who can rebound and play hard nose D

Posted by: ROCK STAR | May 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Let Gilbert leave and pick up Baron Davis. Either that or let Eddie Jordan go and try to pick up Avery Johnson. Eddie was simply outcoached in at least two of the games this series. How does Wally Szczerbiak score 26 points? We let scrubs walk all over us, not to mention Lebron.

Posted by: Chase | May 3, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Let Jamison and Arenas walk.
Sign Ellis and Brand.

Posted by: Pass_The_Sticks | May 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

The cleveland trolls have come out with more bad raps than Pacman, I sure wish they could be put in jail for their poems!!!! YAYAA, i'm bringing more heat than marvin harrison today!!!

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

wiz fans, stop your bellyaching. The better team lost yesterday.

Posted by: the real deal | May 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse


To lose like that in an elimination game at home may have sealed eddie jordan's fate. I like eddie but you don't commit to somebody you like you commit to someone you love. That's why Ernie will likely can jordan and move on. Three straight years and little improvement, something has to be done. You have to keep Arenas and Butler and offer Jamison a 3 year 24 million dollar deal. If he doesn't take it, thanks Antawn but see you later. Time to stop making excuses and make things happen.

Posted by: Stick | May 3, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Arenas is a fine player, but his presence clearly inhibits the spontaneity of the other players. People stand around and wait for him to do something. They would have had a better chance against Cleveland if Arenas didn't return. Earlier this season they had developed an interesting cohesion as an underdog team. The overpaid stars can all easily be replaced with young players.

Posted by: Miles | May 3, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Trades, FA's, none of that sh*t will be a great player. The CAVS have a great player (Lebron) and until he gets old or traded the wizards won't beat him.

See ya next year so we rehash all of the same thoughts.

Posted by: Skip in VA | May 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure who the Wizards fans should be more ashamed of, Tom Knott or the junk players that decided to run their mouths all series. Props to Caron and Jamison (among others) who quielty went on to play ball. Those mentioned are 2 solid players. But the Haywoods and Debricks are complete jokes. Honestly Wizards fans did you lose this game because Air Songaila was not on the court for his 15 minutes? Good luck next year.

Posted by: B | May 3, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

sorry couldn't help myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Feqrz4LiY

Posted by: B | May 3, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

One more quick note for Tom Knott. The Cavs were whistled for 139 fouls and the Wizards 137. Cavs shot 175 FT with the Wizards shooting 174. If Stern wanted to make sure LBJ got into the 2nd round I would guess they should have taken more severe action than suspending a 15 min/game role player. They probably should've just called the foul at the end of game 5 instead.

Posted by: B | May 3, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

One more quick note for Tom Knott. The Cavs were whistled for 139 fouls and the Wizards 137. Cavs shot 175 FT with the Wizards shooting 174. If Stern wanted to make sure LBJ got into the 2nd round I would guess they should have taken more severe action than suspending a 15 min/game role player. They probably should've just called the foul at the end of game 5 instead.

Posted by: B | May 3, 2008 10:43 AM

This is always the lamest and most asinine defense of objectivity. Just because there were an even number of fouls called on both teams does not prove anything. If Cleveland hacked Wizards players twice as many times, but were called for the same amount of fouls during the series--this is supposed to prove the refs were fair to both teams?

Please.

Posted by: Barno | May 3, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

lebron is gay and the league wants to hand him everting on a silver platter. I hope the cavs plane crashes and they all die a very painfull death. Check that let lebron suffer. Have him lose his legs. ahh what a great dream that is.

P.S The city of clevland SUXS also just a bunch of overacting cry babies.

Posted by: the pain full truth | May 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Ummmmm - Lebron is not gay, ask your momma.

Arenas gets injured every year, multiple times -- too fragile to play in this league. He had his best post-season 3 years ago.

Deshawn Stevenson looks like he's trying to be Amish; I believe he was churning butter on the sidelines half the game.

The Wizards will be watching the NBA finals from the same spot as we all will --- from the warm comfort of their living rooms.

Posted by: Jay Cool | May 3, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

the wiz should be utterly ashamed and embarrassed. they were outplayed and outcoached by an inferior team. thats unreal. for eddie jordan to have to be told by the media and fans to foul ben wallace is a complete joke.
eddie jordan should be fired.
destink stevenson was shown to be what he is--a lousy player.
3 seasons in a row- man o man.
and i doubt any changes are made. cause thats the kinda team we are.

other teams dont mess around. dallas, phoenix etc. but not us. just stay the mediocre course.
this team stinks.

Posted by: dk | May 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

The team is where it is and the only real issue is making that assessment in the coming weeks and laying out a vision and roadmap for the future. EG has brought a steadying influence to the franchise. In the salary cap era, it is not that easy to advance, although you can always blow up a team and start over, but that often times only gets you back to mediocrity. I could not even guess how the Wizards will proceed, since I do not have enough facts on challenges/barriers with respect to player health, developmental progress of players, salary cap issues, status of other teams, etc. etc. I do believe that EG and the Wizards have put together a very decent team when it has been healthy that is both enjoyable to watch and talented. Good Luck EG on adjusting the vision for the franchise, laying out a strategy, and making the next moves! As a Wizard Fan, I am going to be optimistic and be excited about the product you put out on the court.

Posted by: GMP | May 3, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Winners win. Losers blame the refs. Wizards fans and Tom Knott deserve this band of misfits. Whatdya say Washington same time next year?

I've never seen grapes sour enough to root for a young man to lose his legs. That's an indictment of a truly sad person.

Posted by: B | May 3, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

6'9" 270 and still growing? 23 years old but looks 38.....and um.....Blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

What's with all the trash talk against Haywood? He played consistently well all series, and we didn't go to him nearly enough. Of all the people that didn't come to play in game 6 (Caron, DeShawn, Mason, Daniels), Haywood was not one of them. He hit free throws, went 6-10 from the field, made 2 nice blocks (including a killer one on LeBron that would have ignited a rally if any of our other players cared about anything other than taking ill-advised 3's) and notched a double double.

The fact that Eddie Jordan allowed Mason Jr. to jack up all those three's when Haywood was shooting 6-10 from the field shows me that he has to go.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Why do Wizards fans have to be silent on our OWN WEBSITE? What are you Cleveland trolls doing here anyway? I would laugh if you just kept posting here throughout the playoffs. Is there nowhere else to go? See you on the Nats posts!

Posted by: DCOne | May 3, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

It's Cleveland....they do not have the skills to create their own website. Just let them play, they have nowhere else to go.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

We need to get a big man. without a big, we'll never be better than a first or second round team. Haywood is avg, and thats after his best year. Everyone says all we need is to stay healthy, but obviously that's not possible with this group of guys. too many injuries. Get a big man.

Posted by: Tony Troese | May 3, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I felt it was a very successful season," Eddie Jordan said.

bang. thats it in a nutshell. thats the problem right there. no it wasnt a successful season. where did you get that from? and if you think that, we'll never get any better.
3 str8 losses to the same team in the first round is a lousy season.
seriously. get a new coach.

Posted by: dk | May 3, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

the atlanta hawks have more heart than the wiz. and they'll pass the wiz next season. bank on it.

Posted by: dk | May 3, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

It was disappointing to see the team lose at home by such a large point spread. I also wanted Eddie to give Nick a try since Mason and DeShawn couldnt get any points. Disappointed in Caron this time also. We cant blame this loss on Gilbert.
Then on the other side, I still appreciate this team and to make it to the playoffs considering all the injuries this season was rewarding. Its going to be a tough off season. Also, this would have been a good game to have Gilbert and his 50points.
I would build around the big 3 one more year.

Posted by: washingtonian | May 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Also, to see Atlanta, a team with no playoff experience, come home and win game 6 the way they did, really hurt. We looked tired or somewhat lazy?? Just dont understand. I know they played game 5 off of emotion for Abe Pollin.

Posted by: washingtonian | May 3, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

How do you get a wizards fan off your porch?

you pay for the pizza

Posted by: soulja bouyyyyy | May 3, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

It's funny that the only first round series to go seven games is the one almost no one expected to last past four. Go Hawks.

Billy Knight, the Hawks GM, has taken a lot of heat the last few years for what he did and didn't do in the draft, but it sure looks like he knew what he was doing now.

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

It's incredibly difficult to know what direction the Wiz should move in the offseason. Hard because we never get to see how this particular team would play together. Since they're never all healthy, it's impossible to get a read on their potential.

All the talk about deals that other teams would never do (i.e. Aldridge for Jamison/Mason) is fruitless. Unless EG can pull off a Lakers/Gasol-type deal, I'm not sure how they get better. Maybe just being healthy makes them better; I don't know.

As for Cleveland, yes, the better team won this series. Would Cleveland have been the better team if we had Gil and Etan this year, and Gil/Caron last year? Hard to say. But for Cavs fans to ignore those absences, and talk about how superior their team is, is ludicrous. You don't think if LeBron missed the whole series, they would be saying "It's a tainted victory, since we didn't have our best player"? Of course they would.

Posted by: Keithinator | May 3, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Gil didnt say anything about missing players in his blog. Besides, LeBron is "overrated" anyway right? He is nothing but a "cry baby". Three years in a row and you still talking about "missing" players. YOU ARE WHO WE THOUGHT YOU WERE, BUT WE DIDNT LET YOU OFF THE HOOK......and um......blow the whistle

Posted by: Blow the whistle | May 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

QUOTE TO NOTE: "I don't know. My job is to play. Management will have to make the tough decisions."-- Forward Antawn Jamison, a free agent this summer, on whether he will be back with the team.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

On getting ready for game one:
"Everything is in place. We've got guys in practice. They're jacked up. They're really intense. They're ready to play. They're having a lot of fun. It's just exciting. It's a great opportunity. We are very proud of where we are."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

WIZARDS GUARD GILBERT ARENAS

On being healthy going into the playoffs:
"We're excited. We haven't been together in the playoffs for two years. We can't wait to get out there. There's a lot of hype in this series and we're ready to get to Cleveland."

On his role in the first round:
"I'm an assassin. I get buckets. I haven't played in a long time, but my shot is still there. When I come off the bench, there's going to be some trouble."

On how his knee is feeling:
"It's feeling good. I took the last two games off because we already figured out who we were going to play. I wanted to let it rest so I can use it in the tournament. That's what it is. It's a tournament."

On Charles Barkley's comments:
"It's his opinion. Obviously he's going to be watching. They have LeBron (James). We have Antawn (Jamison), myself and Caron (Butler). We'll take our chances. We'll take our chances."

On his silence:
"I didn't want to hear, 'How is your knee?' 'How does it feel to be back?' 'Are you still going to opt out?'. Let's worry about the playoffs; then I'll be back at it."

On the difficulty of staying quiet:
"In a couple of months it'll be summer and there will be nothing to talk about. We'll just be sitting there talking about baseball all day. So let's get excited again."

On Cleveland's home court advantage:
"Home court is important. If we can go in there and steal one game then it's back to our home court."

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Teens Killing Teens in DC

And juvenile crime is on the rise. Last Monday D.C. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey stated to the D.C. Council committee, "One out of every six juveniles arrested in D.C. today is charged with a violent offense, compared with one out of every 20 adults arrested. Today, it is not uncommon for us to see packs of three or four or more juveniles, some of them armed, committing street robberies in our city." He was most likely referring to last weekends murder of a 28-year-old-man by four teenagers.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

By Allison Klein and Dan Keating
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, April 20, 2008; Page C01


Burglaries are on the rise in the District, with police blaming the souring economy as a contributing factor in a 21 percent increase in break-ins over the same period last year.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Try watching a Nats home game on television. The seats behind home plate - the best seats in the house - are consistently empty. Even the guys shelling out thousands and thousands of dollars can't be bothered.
So what's the over-under on today's attendance? My guess is 26,000 or so. Most of them will be Mets fans.

(Since I'm presumptuously dancing on the grave of DC baseball, let me remind you that I'm doing my part. I'm going to games and I'm rooting for the Nationals as loudly as I can. I want baseball here. I'm just not blind. It isn't working and the city is going to be left with the tab and the shame of being a minor league town.)

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Stop crying!

Posted by: ClevelandSan | May 3, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

The police seem really keen on bothering people for no reason. Whether it's bothering people with electronics or trying to go door-to-door without warrants looking for guns, Chief Lanier's tenure has been marked by a stunning disregard for civil liberties. Shameful.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are the only game in town, and if they played more than 8 games at home, they would also have attendence problems. Thing is, DC is so transient. So much of our population is from somwhere else.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

And the population that isn't transient can't afford the tickets.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Cav fans stick to your own newspaper. Surely there is one there to write on. Nobody is feeling or reading your stupid posts. Get off this page, your ignorance is showing.

Posted by: stop the noise | May 3, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the fans, you ask? All still stuck on the Metro.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

DC just needs to accept that it is a second class city that can't support first rate things that a normal city can.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

all of you people who called rfk the worst thing since national health care cant even sell out a new ballpark.... i wish they had built the dang thing in virginia-where most of the fan base lives anyway...

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Cav fans stick to your own newspaper. Surely there is one there to write on. Nobody is feeling or reading your stupid posts. Get off this page, your ignorance is showing.

Posted by: stop the noise | May 3, 2008 3:27 PM

Apparently you are reading them dumb_ss

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

The recycling event was a fiasco of epic proportions, even by District government standards. Delays of between 1 and 3 hours for cars sitting on 16th St., just to drop stuff off. Like hundreds of other folks, we ended up parking in the neighborhood and lugging our waste (including a freaking television set) 300 yards or so uphill to the event...where, not surprisingly, confusion reigned.

Classic.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Tip for getting rid of electronics in a bad economy: go to a mediocre neighborhood and look for foreclosures or evictions and piles of stuff on the lawn. Put your used TV in with their stuff.

Its free.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

The Big Lie being disseminated by the Nationals and local media outlets is that Nationals Park cost the city a mere $611,000,000.00. This is not true. And shame on anyone willing to believe it. The stadium is going to cost the city at least $674,000,000.00. I say at least because who knows how much money the city will have to fork over after all of these eminent domain lawsuits are settled.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Hahahaha. Go DC! It's good to know that when there's some kind of rip-off, the District can always be counted on to volunteer our dollars. Got to spend money to make money. Or, alternatively, spend money in order to spend more money.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

From the Plain Dealer
August 28, 2007 11:13AM

"Cleveland was ranked as the nation's fourth poorest big city Tuesday after spending two of the last three years at the top of the U.S. Census Bureau's list."

Apparently the ONLY thing Cleveland has a chance to ever be fist in is being the Country's poorest big city. I know you guys can reclaim the crown this year......and um......blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Metro police officers were instructed to go door-to-door in the city's high-crime neighborhoods and ask permission to look for guns and drugs in exchange for amnesty.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Here's the true view of this team from someone who has actually watched them evolve over the last three years:
1) The wizards are better defensively this year and should be even better with Eton coming back and another year in this defensive system. Gil, if he comes back, will also have time to learn the system and not be such a liability on defense
2) Gil, if he is thinking at all, should NOT opt out. If he really thinks about it, what team is going to give this guy a MAX contract after he had two surgeries to the same knee and looked terrible when he played over the last 2 weeks. If he has a clue, he will realize this and not opt out giving the Wiz the leeway to resign jamison and maybe get someone else to help
3) Eddie Jordan is a good coach, and is thought of very highly throughout the league. When he leaves DC, he will be snapped up immediately. His in game coaching can improve but this team was without its starting/star point guard for 60+ games, without its starting center all year, and without its other starting forward for 20+ games and still made the playoffs easily.
4) We have good young talent that will grow and help this team. Of all the people i trust in this organization, Ernie G. is the man that has shown he can make great teams and can evaluate talent. I agree with the above sentiments that just making the playoffs and expecting to make it every year is a new situation for the bullets/wizards and we just need a few more players or improved health to make a deeper run in the playoffs.
5) Not sure how we can trade Gil. What team is going to give us equal value for a guy that can score 30+ points every game but now has two surgeries in the same knee. Gil needs to stay and prove he is the man still and then we might get full value. As it stands, if Gil opts out he will not get a Max deal.
6) If we play the Cavs again next year (hopefully in the finals and not in the first round) we have to continue to let the offense flow and not double up on Lebron so much. If we do double up, we have to trap quickly and get the balls out of his hand like we did in game 3 which gets him out of the play early. Watching him sit at the top of the key until it was obvious where the defense was overloading and then dishing was killing us. We needed to trap quickly or back off.
7) We had a good year, we can have a great year if we are healthy, and i'd rather have a team with this much personality and excitement than any other team. Sports is about winning, but it is also about entertainment and no one can say the Wizards were not entertaining this year
8) One last thing, i'm moving to DC. I can't take it living in this city over the last three years, and every year the Cavs have bumped us out of the playoffs. Cleveland ain't as nasty a city as most people think, but i still hate being here when we are playing the Cavs.

Go Wiz in 2009. The new logo, The Take Back, taken back, and reloaded and remixed with a new Diss track thrown in....

Posted by: Sad Wiz fan in Cleveland | May 3, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what to say about the future of this group.

They never produce at defining moments, it doesn't matter who is on the court.

I think that they loose the series when they started talking instead of walking and they blow the first and the 4th game.

The coach change tactics before the series, which is almost a no-no.

I think that there are valuable pieces in the team but there are others that can't play The bench is better than before but it still full of kids in case of injuries like this season showed.

I don't say rebuilding, but realize that the fans can't take another elimination in the first round and do what you have to do. If it's the coach the one to go, so be it, and bring Avery Johnson, if it's the players blow Arenas and bring real help.

Not much of a choice.

Posted by: elbeto | May 3, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

In 1950 Cleveland was a City on the rise with a peak population of 914,808

In the most recent census data in 2006 the population had diminished to less than half of it's peak at 420,000.

Rats fleeing a sinking ship......and um......blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

RANKINGS BY POPULATION GROUP

MOST DANGEROUS
6) Washington, DC

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)
Most Dangerous 10:
2) Washington, DC

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

In 1950 Cleveland was a City on the rise with a peak population of 914,808

In the most recent census data in 2006 the population had diminished to less than half of it's peak at 420,000.

Rats fleeing a sinking ship......and um......blow the whistle

There are fleeing to DC for all those taxpayer subsidised do nothing Government jobs

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

This just in ....the population of Cleveland awoke today to find themselves still in Cleveland. Authorities are working feverishly to try and calm the public......and um......blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"In 1950 Cleveland was a City on the rise with a peak population of 914,808

In the most recent census data in 2006 the population had diminished to less than half of it's peak at 420,000.

Rats fleeing a sinking ship......and um......blow the whistle

There are fleeing to DC for all those taxpayer subsidised do nothing Government jobs"

That's right...we all have jobs while you do not......and um......blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Or, let's bring Alan Iverson back home. No one is tougher than he is and that's what this girlie team needs. Then maybe it wouldn't be jacking up 3's from all angles all night."

You've never seen Iverson play, have you?

Posted by: kalorama | May 3, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, I would recommend leaving the DC area. I think this one statement says it all:

When an aspect of your life reaches beyond temporary dissatisfaction and turns into outright misery, it's time to make a change. That change in this case will have to involve a move. There doesn't even seem to be much of an option to me. What other option is there? Many of these things you loathe about the DC area are simply just not going to change. As such, could you really fathom spending the rest of your life in this area contending with them, with the costs and the commutes and the people? I doubt it.

I think the best thing to do is not to look at like a situation where you either have to stay in DC or go back to job B in a small town in Texas. There are so many other options out there that will permit a greater compromise between your wants in a community and the type of jobs available. Perhaps start thinking of alternatives; maybe of a way of going into business for yourself that somehow is related to your current job?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

One of the most fundamental lessons people should learn early on is this:

"WHERE YOU LIVE IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT YOU DO."

Sure, the Washington, D.C. area is bustling with good jobs in both the government and private sectors. But the negatives of the area are HUGE.
The rent and cost of housing is ridulously high in the whole DC area. In fact, many people living there now are simply living to pay their rent. They're spending so much after tax income on housing that there is little left for some of the other important things in life (saving for a home, retirement, etc).

Then, there is the stress element. Washington, D.C. is a VERY stressful area to have to commute into and out of each day. Although some of the D.C. proponents here will downplay this, it just isn't particularly healthy to fight the intense and insane traffic situation there everyday just so a person can attend their place of employment. The roads are set up around D.C. in an absolutely assenine way that does nothing more than maximize problems, headaches, and stress. And the situation is only getting worse.

Lastly, consider the value of TIME. There are people working in DC who are spending an hour-and-a-half to TWO HOURS (each way) driving too and from work. Talk about insane!!! Think about the accumulated commute time (wasted time) that is lost if someone spends several years in the DC area. That's time away from family, wives and kids. That's also time away from working out at the gym, social activities, hobbies, community involvement, continuing education (college or night school), etc.

There is no way anyone here can convince me that 3-4 hours spent COMMUTING in a car each day isn't "wasted time" over the course of living in the DC area. And once that time is gone, you can never get it back. You can always get another job, or make more money. But you can't replace lost time.

Congratulations on writing this post. At least you've realized (after 6 years) that you're not really getting ahead living and working in the DC area. But at least you have realized this. Some folks never learn and simply stay in denial over the negatives of the DC area (and there are a TON).

You are already ahead of the pack. You know it's time to get out.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I can relate to the OP. I've been living here for seven years, and I do not like it. I am now looking for somewhere else to move to. I need a change of location where I can find meet people who are not afraid to open up to others and make new friends. I think the people and their attitudes is what I really dislike about the D.C. area

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"Honestly, I would recommend leaving the DC area. I think this one statement says it all:


When an aspect of your life reaches beyond temporary dissatisfaction and turns into outright misery, it's time to make a change. That change in this case will have to involve a move. There doesn't even seem to be much of an option to me. What other option is there? Many of these things you loathe about the DC area are simply just not going to change. As such, could you really fathom spending the rest of your life in this area contending with them, with the costs and the commutes and the people? I doubt it.

I think the best thing to do is not to look at like a situation where you either have to stay in DC or go back to job B in a small town in Texas. There are so many other options out there that will permit a greater compromise between your wants in a community and the type of jobs available. Perhaps start thinking of alternatives; maybe of a way of going into business for yourself that somehow is related to your current job?"

Hmmm....so we should all leave our high paying jobs right away so the we could better relate to your existence? uh....no thanks......and um......blow the whistle

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, you're not alone in what you're going through. I was born in DC and have lived my entire life in the DC area besides the 4 years I spent in college in Arizona. I hate the DC area with a burning passion. When I went to college, I didn't even consider any schools that were less than 1,000 miles away from here! I loved Arizona but alas after graduation the lure of a job sucked me back in to this area. Fortunately for me, my field does operate in other areas, and as soon as the opportunity arises, I'm moving away and never coming back. I know a lot of people that like it here, and that's fine, but I just can't understand it. It's so overcrowded and expensive and depressing. My fiancee has been here for 5 months and she already wants out really badly.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"I can relate to the OP. I've been living here for seven years, and I do not like it. I am now looking for somewhere else to move to. I need a change of location where I can find meet people who are not afraid to open up to others and make new friends. I think the people and their attitudes is what I really dislike about the D.C. area"

I hear there are a few vacancies in Cleveland

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I believe alot of people develop your mindset after a few years of being here. The way I'm headed, in 4 years i'll be crying that same song. I haven't been here 2 years and I'm ready to move back to Louisiana. I experience your frustrations daily so as alot of ppl on this board. I know what 350k can get you in TX which can't compare to anything here for that same dollar figure. Do the best thing for you and your family is all that I can say.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

a few hundred thousand! LMAO

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

"I can relate to the OP. I've been living here for seven years, and I do not like it. I am now looking for somewhere else to move to. I need a change of location where I can find meet people who are not afraid to open up to others and make new friends. I think the people and their attitudes is what I really dislike about the D.C. area"

I hear there are a few vacancies in Cleveland

Why yes there are and we are a welcoming, friendly folk in Cleveland and, if you hurry you can get on the Cavs bandwagon and root for a classy team.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Cleveland is a great city with lots to see and do. The city has first rate cultural and medical institutions. The Cleveland museum of Art is rated one of the best in the nation and the Symphony orchestra is among the best in the world. The city has a phenominal metro park sysem that circles the city . There are great biking and hiking trails with unsurpassed scenery and beauty. Summer time is my favorite . The weather is great and there's pleanty to do The islands like Put N Bay off the shores of Lake Erie are fun to visit. There are hip, trendy neighborhoods like Ohio city and Tremont with cool eclectic restaurants and cafes. Housing is very affordable and Cleveland has some of the best home values in the US. Definitly a good place to live and work!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Cleveland is a great city with lots to see and do. The city has first rate cultural and medical institutions. The Cleveland museum of Art is rated one of the best in the nation and the Symphony orchestra is among the best in the world. The city has a phenominal metro park sysem that circles the city . There are great biking and hiking trails with unsurpassed scenery and beauty. Summer time is my favorite . The weather is great and there's pleanty to do The islands like Put N Bay off the shores of Lake Erie are fun to visit. There are hip, trendy neighborhoods like Ohio city and Tremont with cool eclectic restaurants and cafes. Housing is very affordable and Cleveland has some of the best home values in the US. Definitly a good place to live and work!

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 4:54 PM

And when the weather gets cold you can sit on your couch and watch the Cavaliers own the Wizards.

Posted by: zz24 | May 3, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

This past weekend, I traveled to Cleveland, Ohio to visit the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. It's about a 5-6 hour drive from Toronto (my hometown). It's a nice drive and if you stay outside Canada more than 48-hours, you can get cheap Canadian beer at the duty free.

I expected Cleveland to be a dumpy filthy city but I was surprised to see how CLEAN (like Toronto) it is. I didn't want to get my expectations too high for the Rock Hall but I have to say, it was INCREDIBLE! Right now, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is featuring a special U2 exhibit til the end of the year and anyone who likes the band OR is a Rock & Roll junky like me, should make the trek to Cleveland.

Have a great day! Brenda

Posted by: Brenda | May 3, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Brenda is right. Cleveland is a great city. I moved to Cleveland last year, and my first visit here was only a few years ago. Unfortunately, I also had the misconception that Cleveland was an undesireable city.

Cleveland has so many great things to offer, and the Rock Hall is only one of them. Playhouse Square is the nation's largest theatre district outside of New York City, and has top-of-the line shows running all the time. The art museum is free and fabulous. Over ten vineyards offer visitors wonderful wines, go to www.ohiowines.org. Little Italy and the rest of the city offer great restaurants... the list goes on and on. Give Cleveland a try... you just might like it.

Posted by: Msurv | May 3, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

My family visited Cleveland this summer and we had a great time!!! I was born there but had not been there in 25 years or more. It was a great visit! Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame was awesome. Kids (8 & 6 years old) really enjoyed it! We went to the Case Western Reserve history museum and they have a great car collection. We also went to the Museum of Art and the botanical gardens which we really enjoyed. Caught a couple of Indians games (they actually won!). Make a trip to Cleveland-it's clean, fun and it Rocks!

Posted by: KTbabygirl | May 3, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Clevland really impressed me too. I'm from Denver, and we have a "brown cloud" problem. I heard Cleveland was undesireble too, but when I arrived I couldn't believe how clean it was and how beautiful the sky was... so blue. The lake was clean. We spent alot of time in the "Flats" and there is a wonderful restaurant.. the "Watermark" there. Took a dinner cruise on the lake. Made it to Playhouse Square. Drove into the "country" Hinckley,OH. The area is just gorgeous!

Posted by: portb | May 3, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Cleveland is a great city! The TV jokes are written by people who either have never been there or haven't been there in a long time!

There is so much to do in Cleveland...The Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame, next door is a great hands-on science museum, The Browns stadium is right there and is beautiful. Downtown is clean and easy to navigate. Ceader Point, home to 13 rollercoasters and voted best amusement park in the world is only about an hour west of the city. The Cleveland Area boasts one of the best Metropark systems in the country. The freeways are well laid out. And there's so much more...people need to come see for themselves.

Posted by: lauren566 | May 3, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I attended a conference in Cleveland last September and attended a private function at the R&R Hall of Fame.

To be honest, I had extremely low expectations for Cleveland--the butt of jokes for years.

It was clean, the people were friendly, and the city was beautiful. We stayed downtown and I ran every morning down by the Hall of Fame and along the walk to the airport. The area was spotless and I never once felt uncomfortable or concerned for my safety.

It was a very pleasant surprise and I look forward to a return visit.

PS The function at the R&R Hall was without a doubt, hands down the best party I have ever attended...

Posted by: Bill McGowan | May 3, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I have been to Cleveland many times.Cleveland is a great city that has enjoyed the benefits of new professional sports facilities and unique attractions. The city used to be well-known as the butt of countless jokes, but now is one of the finest and most-fun cities in the country.
Cleveland is a friendly town, but be careful if you're sporting an out-of-town jersey or hat at a ballgame. While the vast majority of fans won't give you any trouble, there are some who will pile on the verbal abuse.

Posted by: dcdoglover | May 3, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

If you don't mind driving a little, the Pro Football Hall of Fame is located in Canton, 60 miles to the south.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

More and more visitors are discovering that Cleveland's best kept secret is its neighborhoods, the city's true heart and soul. Each ethnic neighborhood retains much of its Old-World cultural background from food to festivals. To discover the wonderful treasures of Greater Cleveland, take in a tour of its neighborhoods.

Posted by: donald | May 3, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of all the ignorant crap being said on this post. All "DC" teams really represent the DC metropolitan area, or the "DMV" (DC, Maryland and Virginia). As an area, it's not perfect, but neither is New York or Los Angeles, and I don't see any hatred thrown their way here. Montgomery County, MD has one of the best school systems in the country, with a 91% graduation rate. It is also home to a number of prominent biotech companies and the National Institutes of Health, which is a hub for health, biological, and genetics research (so no complaining when they sequence genetic diseases or find a solution to Alzheimer's). Loudoun County and Fairfax County are the two richest counties in the country, with average median household incomes averaging around $100,000 (And, contrary to beliefs in posts above mine, it is possible to live off of a salary there). If traffic is such a hang up, no one is forcing you to live right by the Beltway; the Washington metropolitan area encompasses 16 counties and over 5 million people, so there are certainly places to find a nice quiet home if that is your thing. Certainly the city of DC has some issues it needs to address, especially in the eastern part of the city with struggling school systems and violence. However, it wasn't even a decade ago that Cleveland had the lowest graduation rate in the country with 28%, and the city continues to struggle with poverty and economic issues. Cleveland has issues, Washington has issues. But that "Murder Capital" crap that is constantly recycled in this post was from 1991 - 6 YEARS BEFORE THE VERIZON CENTER WAS BUILT. Crime has since been cut in half. In fact, look at this Wikipedia article that shows that while DC may have a slightly higher murder rate than Cleveland, the rate of violent crime is actually higher in Cleveland!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Culling some headline off the internet about crime doesn't devalue the fact that DC is the home to the national government, and that the major metropolitan area is one of the most important areas on the east coast. Cleveland is working hard to revitalize itself, much like Philadelphia, and has had some success. But comparing the DC metropolitan area to the Cleveland metropolitan area is a fruitless exercise. The Washington metropolitan area has almost twice as many people, and a far more diverse geography. Plus, we actually have sports teams who have won championships since the invention of the computer.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I think Game 6 shows why the Wizards are NOT better without Gilbert Arenas. The offense was terrible for the last 3 quarters. Butler and Jamison did nothing. Unfortunately, this has occurred regularly this season. Gilbert's talent on the offensive end would have been a big help. He has the ability to score on his own and he also does share the ball.
I think people have forgotten how good Gilbert has been over the past 3 years. This series, he's been criticized for every missed shot by every player. If he shot 9 for 22 like Antawn did or turned the ball over as many times as Caron did, people would be yelling like crazy. Gil wasn't in the game yesterday, but there were plenty of bad 3 pointers taken and the offense did not flow. Neither Caron nor Antawn had a particularly good series, but they're immune to criticism. I guessing the Gil won't opt out, so hopefully he will get healthy over the summer and be ready to have a great year next year.

Posted by: bowiemd1 | May 3, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz fans in these blogs first started talking crap about Cleveland out of frustaration over our losing team.
I have grown up in DC and think there are many things to be proud of and some to be ashamed of. I have also visited Cleveland on numerous occassions and while not seeing perfection believe that Clevelanders have much to be proud of. It really is a cool city and should be checked out by anyone who has a chance. Anyway, we should not attack a city because our team has continued to fail and our team chose to act without class during this series. Like I said, I have grown up in DC while others just need to grow up and quit being in denial.

Posted by: TrueWizFan | May 3, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Bravo truewiz and better luck next year. As a Cleveland naive I like the DC area but had become disgusted with Wizard fans. I am happy there are some decent humans amongst them.

Posted by: jodie | May 3, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I think too many wizaed fans mimmic the crap they read in their crappy papers, certainly out of frustration however they should be real

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Truewiz, I could not agree more. Congratulations Cav fans on your total domination of us and good luck in the next roumd.

Posted by: ajfan | May 3, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

From the Times

Nothing like a good hate to get the juices flowing, and by game time last night at Verizon Center, Wizards fans had the blood of hate and injustice rushing through their veins

Nice

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

The better team won.
Disappointed? yes
Hate? over a game? geez

Posted by: GilRocks | May 3, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

As a Wizards fan I am rooting for Cleveland. I would rather say we were beat by Champions

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Jodie,

As a Cleveland "naive" (sic), what are you doing on this website, and where do you get off leveling judgement on our fans? We have never had a game called because drunken, unruly fans pelted the field with beer. I think its pretty indecent of you to come to a Washington website and act so condescendingly towards the fans here, as though you get to determine who the "decent human beings" are. From what I've seen from Cleveland natives posting here, you should really be looking after your own.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Jodie,

As a Cleveland "naive" (sic), what are you doing on this website, and where do you get off leveling judgement on our fans? We have never had a game called because drunken, unruly fans pelted the field with beer. I think its pretty indecent of you to come to a Washington website and act so condescendingly towards the fans here, as though you get to determine who the "decent human beings" are. From what I've seen from Cleveland natives posting here, you should really be looking after your own.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:04 PM

It is not a "washington website" it is the internet you idiot. And I think she has a right to her opinion you nazi!

Posted by: gonatsgo | May 3, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Just heard on the radio "unamed insider" that AJ would love to play in Cleveland next year. Thoughts?

Posted by: notagainwiz | May 3, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Have not heard that one but Lebron said he and his "very good friend Gilbert" have talked about Gil coming to the Cavs. Would love to have Antwan though

Posted by: King23 | May 3, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Jodie,

As a Cleveland "naive" (sic), what are you doing on this website, and where do you get off leveling judgement on our fans? We have never had a game called because drunken, unruly fans pelted the field with beer. I think its pretty indecent of you to come to a Washington website and act so condescendingly towards the fans here, as though you get to determine who the "decent human beings" are. From what I've seen from Cleveland natives posting here, you should really be looking after your own.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:04 PM

Throw a rock into the air you never know what you will hit. LMAO Or in this case turn over a rock.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Funny, if this website is such an open forum year round, where are the Browns fans talking trash during the Redskins season? All I said is, what do the Cleveland fans expect when they talk trash about Washington on the Washington Post website? Funny that so many Washingtonians attack me for standing up for DC, but when a Clevelander spews ignorant crap, they are defended for free speech. What she said wasn't insightful, it was inflammatory. And I have the right to call her on it.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Just heard on the radio "unamed insider" that AJ would love to play in Cleveland next year. Thoughts?

Posted by: notagainwiz | May 3, 2008 6:18 PM

heard a few weeks back that aj and gil were talking openly about leaving after the season with cleveland being a posible destination
also heard lebron said cool as long as deshawn did not come with them and that is what made deshawn so mad

Posted by: 1gilfan | May 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Funny, if this website is such an open forum year round, where are the Browns fans talking trash during the Redskins season? All I said is, what do the Cleveland fans expect when they talk trash about Washington on the Washington Post website? Funny that so many Washingtonians attack me for standing up for DC, but when a Clevelander spews ignorant crap, they are defended for free speech. What she said wasn't insightful, it was inflammatory. And I have the right to call her on it.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:27 PM

You were wrong MD, let it go. Wizards will get them next year.

Posted by: ek 47 | May 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

From Cleveland's point of view, what do they have to gain by picking up Gilbert? Who knows if he can ever play a full season again. Knee injuries can be additive, so I don't see him ever being 100% again. Their management won't bite on that one.

Jamison may be a whole different story. What is their cap situation?

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Just heard on the radio "unamed insider" that AJ would love to play in Cleveland next year. Thoughts?

Posted by: notagainwiz | May 3, 2008 6:18 PM

I didnt hear it either but my cousin in Cleveland said the local media have been all over it. Let him go!

Posted by: juniorwiz | May 3, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

From Cleveland's point of view, what do they have to gain by picking up Gilbert? Who knows if he can ever play a full season again. Knee injuries can be additive, so I don't see him ever being 100% again. Their management won't bite on that one.

Jamison may be a whole different story. What is their cap situation?

I think they have some expiring contract and are going to have plenty space. Would he sell us out?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Who wanted to talk football? Do we play your sorry asses this year?

Posted by: Go Browns | May 3, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

From Cleveland's point of view, what do they have to gain by picking up Gilbert? Who knows if he can ever play a full season again. Knee injuries can be additive, so I don't see him ever being 100% again. Their management won't bite on that one.

Jamison may be a whole different story. What is their cap situation?

I think they have some expiring contract and are going to have plenty space. Would he sell us out?

E snow and D Jones are up. They are paying the luxury tax and have made it clear they are willing to keep doing so. AJ would be a good fit there IMHO

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

AJ to Cleveland SAY IT AINT SO!

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Are they allowed to talk about this while still being under contract?

Posted by: pappy wiz | May 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Who wanted to talk football? Do we play your sorry asses this year?

Posted by: Go Browns | May 3, 2008 6:40 PM

HAHAHA what?? I was only making the point that I don't see all these Cleveland fans around for anything other than to gloat about their first round victory. But since you called us sorry, allow me to remind you that we made the playoffs last year. Where were you guys?

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

maybe we should go after jones, he is better than Deshawn

Posted by: DC Joey | May 3, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

YOO why are the browns talkin trash???

Posted by: CPortis26 | May 3, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

maybe we should go after jones, he is better than Deshawn

Posted by: DC Joey | May 3, 2008 6:49 PM

Dear God no.

Posted by: PG County | May 3, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Who wanted to talk football? Do we play your sorry asses this year?

Posted by: Go Browns | May 3, 2008 6:40 PM

HAHAHA what?? I was only making the point that I don't see all these Cleveland fans around for anything other than to gloat about their first round victory. But since you called us sorry, allow me to remind you that we made the playoffs last year. Where were you guys?

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:47 PM

Sadly this is true but stay tuned. Also I will try to nake sure you have all the Browns fans you can eat this season. LOL Whats this talk of Jamison going to cleveland?

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

It is not a "washington website" it is the internet you idiot. And I think she has a right to her opinion you nazi!
Posted by: gonatsgo | May 3, 2008 6:14 PM

Haha once again, Godwin's Law is proven true. Scary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

"Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:
'As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.'
Godwin's Law is often cited in online discussions as a caution against the use of inflammatory rhetoric or exaggerated comparisons, and is often conflated with fallacious arguments of the reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that one arising is increasingly probable. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact. Although in one of its early forms Godwin's Law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions, the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads and wiki talk pages."

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Vegas Odds to win the 2009 Super Bowl XLIII

Cleveland Browns 28/1
Washington Redskins 35/1

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Vegas Odds to win the 2009 Super Bowl XLIII

Cleveland Browns 28/1
Washington Redskins 35/1

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 7:01 PM

Are we serious?

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Actually Jones is pretty good and it would be funny having him here. Maybe he can help beat the Cavs

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Vegas Odds to win the 2009 Super Bowl XLIII

Cleveland Browns 28/1
Washington Redskins 35/1

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 7:01 PM

Are we serious?

Look it up

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Those Browns aint no joke. Seriously

Posted by: Hog Boy | May 3, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Vegas Odds to win the 2009 Super Bowl XLIII

Cleveland Browns 28/1
Washington Redskins 35/1

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 7:01 PM

Are we serious?

Look it up

Posted by: | May 3, 2008 7:06 PM

LOL I wasn't doubting that those are the odds, but seriously what does that mean right now? The draft was only a week ago! Who knows what will happen with free agents, injuries, etc. before the season already starts? I certainly wouldn't put money on that.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Sunday, October 19
Cleveland @ Washington Redskins
Guess we will fid out

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

LOL I wasn't doubting that those are the odds, but seriously what does that mean right now? The draft was only a week ago! Who knows what will happen with free agents, injuries, etc. before the season already starts? I certainly wouldn't put money on that.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 7:11 PM

Vegas knows and lots of people will put money on it LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

It is not a "washington website" it is the internet you idiot. And I think she has a right to her opinion you nazi!
Posted by: gonatsgo | May 3, 2008 6:14 PM

Haha once again, Godwin's Law is proven true. Scary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

"Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:
'As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.'
Godwin's Law is often cited in online discussions as a caution against the use of inflammatory rhetoric or exaggerated comparisons, and is often conflated with fallacious arguments of the reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that one arising is increasingly probable. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact. Although in one of its early forms Godwin's Law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions, the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads and wiki talk pages."

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 6:59 PM

To have that tidbit at hand I take you have been called a nazi mant times. I wonder

Posted by: pizzaman | May 3, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

No pizzaman, just frequent a lot of blogs.

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

AJ said Cleveland would be on his short list. I guess I will have to follow him to Cleveland. Grrrr

Posted by: ajgirl | May 3, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

AJ said Cleveland would be on his short list. I guess I will have to follow him to Cleveland. Grrrr

Posted by: ajgirl | May 3, 2008 7:21 PM

Link?

Posted by: MD to DC | May 3, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"He's a terrific basketball player. You love his toughness.You love the way he shoots the basketball.The Wizards are lucky to have a talented, tough-minded young man in Antwan. He would be a good fit on any team"
-CLEVELAND CAVALIERS HEAD COACH MIKE BROWN

Posted by: Anonymous | May 3, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, gotta comment about all the stuff comparing DC to Cleveland. I grew up in the DC area (prince georges and Fairfax so you know i've been everywhere) and i've been in Cleveland for the last 3 yrs. Cleveland is definitely better than its reputation. It has decent food, a better nightlife now b/c of West 6th st and downtown, and terrific sports b/c all the major sports are almost walking distance to each other, which is different than DC. That said, just b/c Cleveland is better than you would imagine doesn't make it a better city than DC, which has unbelievable food (both traditional cuisine and international cuisine), a very strong sports history as well, and amazing culture due to its being the capitol and what not. I won't even go into all the different types of nightlife available in the DC area, but suffice to say it blows away anything cleveland can offer. Also, Cleveland can't hold a candle to any museums that DC has and although the muggy weather can be murder in DC, i'll take that any day versus the crappy winter in cleveland and the occasional blizzard in May.

Posted by: Wiz fan in Cleveland | May 3, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else notice that DWade was sitting behind the Cav's bench?

Posted by: DC Man88 | May 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Trade Stevenson, 1st rounder this year and next year, along with a second, for one of the top picks and get Derrick Rose.
Move Arenas to the 2 and get rid of Haywood for a more dominant big. The reason for stvenson is he is a spot up shooter at best and shot his mouth off and couldnt hold Lebrons jock.
PG Rose
SG Arenas
SF Butler
PF Jamison
C. Anybody but Haywood.
Championship

Also the rookies got to work on their game and Blatche has Garnett potential...yes i said Garnett..but he has to work at his game and put on some muscle. If Mcguire gets a good jumper he could dominate like Lebron...yes Lebron. Our youngs have huge potential.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

To me, changes to this team need to be made. Anytime you loose three straight years in the first round of the playoffs, changes need to be made. I assume that the goal of this team is to be NBA champs. It will not happen with this starting five.

This team doesn't play aggressive defense for 48 minutes and they don't rebound well. Two important things to be successful in the playoffs.

Yes, we have two Allstars, but as we know from Dallas in 2007, the regular season doesn't really mean that much. It's how you play during the playoffs.

As I watched the Wiz during this year's playoffs, there were too many times that I saw one person or no players trying to get a rebound. Several times, I saw Brendan Haywood trying to get a rebound by himself, against three Cav players...what gives? Haywood was worked over by the more experienced center for the Cavs. But I do believe that Haywood will continue to improve as a player.

Jamison, on the other hand, at times played no defense and seemed to have given up. I don't see a lot of defensive intensity with Jamison and he is not a consistent rebounder, so I don't see how this team can get to the second round next year, with Jamison.

Butler is a great offensive player, that is one of the better defensive players on this team. He was not able to take his offensive game to a higher level in the playoffs. If he is not able to this, then what is he worth. You must step up during the playoffs! He is a worst rebounder than Jamison and this part of his game needs to improve.

So my bottom line is that changes should be made.

Posted by: Brad Jeter | May 7, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company