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Jamison close, could be done tonight

Just made some quick calls and was able to confirm that the Wizards are close to reaching an agreement with Antawn Jamison on a four-year deal worth $48 million. The word is that the Wizards really want to get the deal done before midnight tonight when free agency hits because if they don't, they'd have to wait until July 9 and that could impact negotiations with Gilbert Arenas.

According to my sources, negotiations heated up over the weekend and really came together earlier today. I hear that Antawn is on a flight from North Carolina right now and everything could be finalized tonight. The team that was prepared to make the strongest push for Jamison was the Philadelphia 76ers who were prepared to come with an offer that I hear was going to be just under what the Wizards are coming with. Washington's original offer was laughable: three years for $27 million.

Jamison didn't appreciate that one and I hear that his agent, Arn Tellem, countered with a whopper: four years, $80 million. From there, the sides negotiated to a number that worked for both parties.

Other teams that expressed some level interest in Jamison included the Clippers, Bobcats and Miami Heat. I'm not yet sure what Antawn's cap number will be for next season but assuming that it's around $12 million, the Wizards should have room to still take care of Arenas, who is either seeking the maximum or close to it. I can tell you that he wants more than $15 million in the first year of the deal.

More as the information flows.

By Ivan Carter  |  June 30, 2008; 4:42 PM ET
 
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YAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: G Diddy | June 30, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

The team that made the strongest push for Jamison was the Philadelphia 76ers who came strong with an offer that I hear was just under what the Wizards countered with.
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wait, how can Philly talk to him if he's not a FA yet? Well, not shocked at the low-ball offer, but it doesn't seem like it'll happen to Gil, else he'll just head out to the far east and take care of things when he gets back...

Posted by: CN | June 30, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow. The Wiz really low-balled Antawn. Though I can't say I blame them for looking at a deal that was under 10 a year. I hope this is done tonight, that would be great for AJ. He's one of the few Tarheels that I really like as a player and as an role model.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | June 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Why is 3 years, $27 million laughable, Ivan? That would put AJ right behind Caron on the pay scale, which seems about right.

Same question as CN, too.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

YEAH ITS GOOD TO BE A WIZARDS FAN...WE GONNA SIGNED TWO GUYS WITH LOTS OF MONEY AND WE R GONNA BE THE SAME TEAM AGAIN AND STILL CAN NOT GET PAST DEEP INTO THE PLAYOFF...THIS SUCK!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Ernie sure has a tough time negotiating when he holds the cards and his players have no other real options. Do you really think Jamison would go to Philly for just slightly more money?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

It might be in line with Caron, but Caron is underpaid.

You'd think the Wiz would have learned the lesson about low ball offers already.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Assuming we get Twan at 12 mill for next year and Gil at 15-17, how much money do we have left to add another piece. Is Abe willing to spend the $20 we got for Bill Walker on luxury tax?

Posted by: ATLwizFAN | June 30, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I think you'll have a hard time finding anyone too excited about Jameson for 4 yrs. He has a vertical leap of 1 inch and can't play lateral defense. Imagine what his movement will be in the late stages of this contract. Ernie should hire someone to negotiate for him. At his press conferences he just looks worn out.

Posted by: Beeb | June 30, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Give Ivan some props guys, good work man. Good sleuthing, thanks for keeping us informed. Great to hear.

Posted by: Andy S | June 30, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"Washington's original offer was laughable: three years for $27 million."

Why is that offer laughable? That's what it should have been and what he's worth. If he wasn't tethered to Gilbert they should have let him walk. Why should his average salary be more than David West's (4 yrs, $45 million) when West is better and younger. What's laughable about an offer that averages more per season than Caron Butler's? I can understand why Jamison wants a 4th year -- because no one in their right mind is going to offer him anything close to $10million/per at age 35-- but that makes the offer logical, not laughable. Only in the fairytale world of the NBA is a $27 million off to a 32 year old guy who plays no defense and has never gotten out of the 2nd round of the playoffs considered laughable.

Sadly, the joke's on us.

Posted by: charlie32 | June 30, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

i guess they did kinda low ball him but i was hopping he would sign for less than 12 a year. at least he wasn't too "hurt" by the offer...

Posted by: hibachi | June 30, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"You'd think the Wiz would have learned the lesson about low ball offers already."

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When did they supposedly learn this lesson?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

YES YES YES!!!!!

Quite frankly I don't care if we can't win a title with our current team. An 82 game season with the big 3 is very fun to watch. We have three big expiring contracts coming up in 2 years (Etan, AD, BTH) and you know how those tend to work.

09-10 champs. Agent Zero MVP. Book it.

Posted by: Adam | June 30, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"You'd think the Wiz would have learned the lesson about low ball offers already."

You mean when they let Larry Hughes and Jarred Jeffries walk? Yeah, I'm sure they're regretting the lessons learned from those negotiations.

Posted by: charlie32 | June 30, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

OK, assuming Jamison is receiving the max increase of 10.5% of the base year contract and that his total contract is 4 yrs/$40M, here is how his contract projects:
Yr 1: $10.367M
Yr 2: 11.456
Yr 3: 12.544
Yr 4: 13.633
Total: 4 yrs/$48M

Assuming Gil signs for a 6-year deal for $15M the first year, here's how his salary would look:
Yr 1: $15M
Yr 2: $16.575
Yr 3: $18.15
Yr 4: $19.725
Yr 5: $21.3
Yr 6: 22.875
Total: 6 yrs/$113.625M

I believe a "max" contract would give Gil about $125M over 6 years...

Posted by: CN | June 30, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

For those who think Abe is the only 1 with a no luxury tax stip, they should look @ Dr. Buss & his Lakers' prior to this season.

He was steadfast that the Lakers pay no tax until Mitch Kupchak convinced him that Gasol would help them in a playoff run. They were geared towards 2010's free agent class...but because of the play of Bynum & Gasol giving them a big hand, they now are over the cap & will be for the foreseeable future. So it's win now with those guys.

So unless EG gives Abe that type of info, I see no reason to overspend on anything.

Posted by: Victor | June 30, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Glad to hear AJ is ready to sign a legit offer, but 3 years for $27M was a joke. There are players like Ben Wallace and Larry Hughes receiving $12-13M who aren't nearly as productive. Jamison earned it with his consistent play and leadership the last 4 years. People who blast him for his poor defense seem to overlook that he's expected to be a 20-10 man and log 40+ minutes a night on a team that's been shorthanded the last 2 years.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 30, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

That's not a bad contract to me for AJ's skills and what he brings to the table. We have to stop looking at age all of the time when it comes to certain players.

AJ does not play above the rim and his game is not like Gilbert's where he needs his legs to make points. AJ has the type of game that will still produce even when he is 40 years old. His game is about angles and positioning, not "hops" and "quicks" like his boy Vince....

People need to stop sleeping on AJ and give him his props. EG is doing the right thing by locking him up early. That now puts the ball in Gil's court. Gil will have to put up or shut up on what he said earlier in the season.

Gil said he would not sign if the Wiz did not retain AJ. Well it looks like they paid just a little over to keep AJ so that they can also keep Gilbert.

The numbers will be clear now. Whatever is left from the signing of AJ will go to Gil. If Gil does not think that is not enough, then it will look like he is going back on his word about the Wizards keeping AJ. Let's see how this plays out.

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | June 30, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Hypothetical Trade:
Daniels, Songaila, Blatche and a pick to the Nets for Vince Carter. Maybe our record doesn't change, but games become a lot more fun to watch.

Posted by: ATLwizFAN | June 30, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Common misconception is that if not signed he would have to wait until the 9th of July. Agreements can be made and someone will come to terms tomorrow, they just can't sign anything until the 9th.

Posted by: Monte | June 30, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

"Daniels, Songaila, Blatche and a pick to the Nets for Vince Carter"
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Why the hell would you want Vince Carter? Maybe we can get Sprewell to come out of retirement while we're at it.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Thats fairly good. I was hoping for a little less. But we should have enough left for Gil and one other piece.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

The first offer was so laughable, it would have caused Jamison to say bye bye see you in Philly.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I second you charlie, I don't think $9 million a year for 3-4 years was a joke either.

Posted by: George Templeton | June 30, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

If the nets wanted to give us Vince Carter I would say no. He does no feel a need on this team, and he is a bum. He is the last player we need.

Plus I am still holding out hope that Blatche can be a stud...he is still only 21, and he PER was 15.5 above the league average (of 15), hopefully he works hard and keeps improving (and does not go to jail)

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I believe a "max" contract would give Gil about $125M over 6 years...

Posted by: CN | June 30, 2008 5:22 PM

Pretty close...the way I calculated it, a max deal would be just over 124 million.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2008/6/11/550003/the-gilbert-arenas-offseas

Posted by: Pradamaster | June 30, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

$27 million for 3 years was a ploy and Amtawn and his agent knew it... They also knew the Wizards need to do a deal with the Captain out of the box to get Gil and there has to be enough money left on the table to make that happen. This is coming together but I pray for a solid FA signing.

Posted by: khrabb | June 30, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Beeb here you go, Antawn's one inch leap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13ROycNpUu4

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

The initial offer was not only NOT laughable, it was right around what Ivan Carter was predicting the Wizards would offer him only a few weeks ago (He said the Wiz would probably come at him with an offer in the area of 10 million per year).

Ivan is just trying to get a reaction out of us...he knows that offer was not laughable.

Posted by: Barno | June 30, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Monte,

Not that AJ would do this but players have burned teams in the past when it comes to this. Look at Carlos Boozer. It seems legitimate that they get AJ signed so they can move onto Gilbert as Gilbert wants AJ here. However, if Arenas winds up leaving town like he left Golden State, then at least we have AJ locked up for four years.

Posted by: straub21 | June 30, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

It's not Rashard Lewis bad, at least.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

"You'd think the Wiz would have learned the lesson about low ball offers already."

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When did they supposedly learn this lesson?

Posted by: | June 30, 2008 5:19 PM

How about when they low balled Juwan Howard?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

It's not Rashard Lewis bad, at least.

Posted by: | June 30, 2008 5:49 PM
Or Stephon Marbury

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The first offer was so laughable, it would have caused Jamison to say bye bye see you in Philly.

that's a hell of a lot less laughable than 4 years $80 million.

i'd rather let both these guys walk and come up with a plan B than overpay and cripple the franchise for the next 6 years.

whoever cited larry hughes and ben wallace as reasons TO overpay is getting it backwards.

Posted by: Don't do it Abe | June 30, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I believe the term is called.....tip of the tongue...NEGOTIATING! Your first offer is the absolute best case scenario and then you work from there. Ernie himself knew that the offer was laughable, which is why it was his initial toss in the hat. I'm sure he hoped that AJ would want to take that deal but he probably had in his mind a range that he felt AJ was probably worth (between $9-13M/yr?). If we had offered like $7 or $8, AJ and agent might have just said F you and not continued at all. I think Ernie, a shrewd, seasoned GM, knows more about what he's doing the us, the armchair GMs of the world.

Posted by: RonBurgundy | June 30, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

That's a good deal for Jamison if it goes through, but reports for Gil are over $100 mil:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8299632?MSNHPHMA

No one else is going to give Gil anything close to that, I hope the reports are false otherwise they are going to make a BIG mistake.

What are you hearing Ivan?

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | June 30, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

The initial offer was not only NOT laughable, it was right around what Ivan Carter was predicting the Wizards would offer him only a few weeks ago (He said the Wiz would probably come at him with an offer in the area of 10 million per year).

Ivan is just trying to get a reaction out of us...he knows that offer was not laughable.

Posted by: Barno | June 30, 2008 5:47 PM

Barno, Philly has about $11M to spend on a PF. Other teams haven't made up their minds yet I think, but Miami could also have been willing to pay that much.

More and more it looks like over the luxury tax line for Washington specially if they give Arenas what he wants - $17M for the first year.

Posted by: rgz | June 30, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

in terms of the counter offer, it was equally laughable. Ernie knew AJ wasn't going to sign for $9M/yr and AJ and agent knew Ernie wouldn't agree to $20/yr. It's like OK now that the jokes are over, let's start negotiating for real. Seems like it worked. I think AJ is more valuable to the team than some of the aforementioned guys. He's a valuable cog and you're not gonna get a fringe all-star these days for less than $12-13M.

Posted by: RonBurgundy | June 30, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Yesss!!!

This is good news. Plus nice job Ivan, thanks.

The fact is we have no idea how well this team will be in the playoffs if healthy. We do know that if they don't resign Antawn, they won't even make the playoffs.

Funny idea about Vinsanity. No chance of course, Daniels' contract (and Songaila too for that matter) is bordering on untradable.


Hey Comcast just reported it's done w/Antawn. 4 years/50 mil.

Posted by: Patrick | June 30, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Now they're saying 4 years/44-50 mil.

Posted by: Patrick | June 30, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

What is laughable is the fact that they keep putting the same team out and losing in the playoffs with them and no one in thelocal area holds them accountable fans included.

Posted by: BD | June 30, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Ivan is just trying to get a reaction out of us...he knows that offer was not laughable.

Posted by: Barno | June 30, 2008 5:47 PM

Barno, are you stirring up trouble here, too?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | June 30, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I have a lot of respect for Ernie, but I question both these deals. AJ is a nice player, but he is clearly on the downside of his career. As for Arenas, will he be better after two knee surgeries? Or is it more likely he will never be the player he was? Neither of them played any D before. Are they suddenly going to be ready to sell out on D after inking big deals?

The team's record was basically the same without Arenas. I can justify the AJ deal more easily than a 6 year, 100 mill deal for Arenas. Let him test free agency and see exactly what other teams are prepared to pay him. My prediction is no one will give him even what AJ got.

Posted by: AAA | June 30, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I seriously doubt they're giving Jamison $15 mill/yr. $11-12 mill is much more likely.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

"How about when they low balled Juwan Howard?"
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Please explain. Its too bad the lowball was not enough to make him leave.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

seriously what is wrong with the wizards. they draft a player who isnt even as good as his mom. then they go out and give 50 mil fro 4 years to a 32-year old. and now watch theyll bid against themself for arenas who nobody else will want. way to tread water and never get better. well the hawks and 6ers just blew by ya ernie. what a freakin waste.
this team is becoming a joke. welcome to dc.

Posted by: dk | June 30, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, Gilbert and Antwan...one's got a bad knee, the other, hot and cold shooter...let's spend all the cap money available to end up done after the first round of the playoffs...again

Posted by: kieys | June 30, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

They lowballed him. He agreed to terms with Miami. Stern stepped in and nixed that deal. The Wizards then proceeded to give him a huge long term contract.

Maybe if they had given him a better deal initially it would've have played out like that.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Antawn played his ass off this season! Our record would not have been as good as it was without him. If you can remenber, both Caron and Gilbert were out at the same time and Antawn kept the Wiz in the hunt. I say CONGRATS Antawn! He got what he wanted, whether you all think he was low balled or not and he can finish his career here and not have to uproot his family. With some, it's not always about money.

One down, one to go!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I think Jamison deserved a nice deal. He has played his arse off. 20/10 w/ no vertical and limited athelticism. He is the leader on this team and I hope keeping him here gets GILBERT in line. Gil is a incredible talent..but he is still trying to prove himself. After he gets this deal he should change his number and put all of that "zERO" stuff behind him and win us a championship.

Posted by: highlyed | June 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I think Jamison deserved a nice deal. He has played his arse off. 20/10 w/ no vertical and limited athelticism. He is the leader on this team and I hope keeping him here gets GILBERT in line. Gil is a incredible talent..but he is still trying to prove himself. After he gets this deal he should change his number and put all of that "zERO" stuff behind him and win us a championship.

Posted by: highlyed | June 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Lots of people with GM experience on this blog. EG better watch out for his job!!!

Posted by: Bart | June 30, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

i like antawan, but i was kind of hoping that we'd make a serious run at elton brand instead. in my mind, that would give us the inside-out combo that we're lacking. caron and gilbert would be free to slash and shoot.

Posted by: jeremy | June 30, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

We had a healthy nucleus of Caron, Gilbert & Jamison 3 years ago and they got to the second round. Now they are three years older, w/ Caron & Gilbert losing significant time with injuries and Jamison reaching an age of diminishing returns and increased injury risk. The last time I checked, the goal was to win a championship, not just to be entertaining or make the playoffs. Why max out a guy who doesn't listen to doctors, rehabs himself and gets injured again, by his own admission does NOT want to be a leader, dominates the ball at the expense of team chemistry, threatens to leave if his personnel preferences are not met, fights with the coach, complains that the coach puts too much emphasis on defense, etc.? We need big boys, the kind you can use in the playoffs when NBA players actually come to play, the kind who fight and scratch and defend and will the team to victory. This team is weak in the middle and, like RUN TMC back in the day, will entertain but never get far with its three biggest stars being perimeter players. And why throw away the second pick for cash? Gems can, and are regularly, found there. Not sure which team has worse personnel men, the Wiz or the Skins.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

We can go after Brand next year (by trade) with the expiring contracts of Thomas, Haywood, and Daniels...

There will be a lot of teams interested in trading for expiring contracts next year; because the year after is a HUGE Free Agent class - including LeBron James, Chris Paul, Carlos Boozer, Manu Ginobli, Marcus Camby, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, and Amare Stoudemire among others.

The Wizards are positioned to capitalize in the 2009-2010 season to acquire ELITE PLAYERS through trades.

How about Kobe Bryant? If the Lakers wanted to re-tool and go after LeBron James - a trade with the Lakers for Kobe would be possible.

Say Boston wins again this year, but shows signs of age..... a trade of Garnett to Washington also works.

The point is, Ernie Grunfeld has positioned the Wizards salary situation so that they will have $20 Million in expiring contracts - at the EXACT TIME that teams will be willing to trade real assets.

Posted by: Rook | June 30, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Re lowballing Juwan Howard, I think when people talk about that, they're talking about his rookie contract. I think his draft slot meant he should have gotten a rookie contract for something like 6 years/25 million (that's ballpark as I am too lazy to look it up), but Abe Pollin wanted to buck the rookie contract system, so instead Howard signed something like a 2 or 3 year deal that let him become a free agent earlier than usual. When that rookie contract was up, that's when the whole bidding disaster with Miami happened. I think the Wizard's free agent offer to Howard was a fair offer, it's just that Miami was willing to massively overpay for him. And we know how that worked out . . .

Posted by: Bucky Katt | June 30, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Why invest in a player that peaked and is old.

Posted by: Outside the Box | June 30, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Ok ernie this better work out. That's a lot of money for a 32 year old. Sure he has heart and can score but he can't defend a crosswalk. Best of luck.

Posted by: Stick | June 30, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I like Jamison. He seems to be one of the cooler dudes on the Team. But, he is old, peaked, and doesn't play defense. The Wiz have a bunch of 'developing' guys who can play PF and should be able to assume a starting position in 2-3 years. What then? Pay Antwan $12mil to be a 6th man?

This deal is going to eat up so much cap space that they are not going to be able to go after some of the big time FA's in 2010 or 2011 season.

Posted by: Alobar | June 30, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

This deal is going to eat up so much cap space that they are not going to be able to go after some of the big time FA's in 2010 or 2011 season.

Posted by: Alobar | June 30, 2008 9:00 PM

That was a given. If they sign EITHER Arenas or Jamison for more than 2 years, the Wizards would not be able to go after that big class of FA's in 2010 that includes LeBron James and Chris Paul...

The good news is that the Wizards have $20 Million in expiring contracts in the 2009-2010 season that OTHER TEAMS will want, so that THEY can go after those FA's... I see some very good Trade scenarios for the 2009-2010 season

Posted by: Rook | June 30, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Good point 'Rook.' Other perspectives the Lazy Boy GM's aren't considering. Ernie just might have us positioned for a major run down the line. The hope is if the big 3 stay healthy and the younger players on the team keep improving, there's no reason why we can't win in the East right now. Other than the first few picks, the draft and who teams picked up is sooo overrated. It's a crap shoot and the player has to go to the right situation to really have an impact. Now the ball is in Agent O's court. He can sign and leave something on the table for the Wiz to make another move this offseason.

Posted by: G$ | June 30, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Once ted leonsis buys this team the rebuild will begin. Stupid pollin and GM Ernie will be gone. Why are we offering all this money to a group that hasn't done much in a bad conference. Just imagine if they were out west. Plus the west is getting better and the wiz are staying the same. miami,orlando,chicago,bucks,raptors,etc

Were always going to be an average team. I like what the Nets are doing. keeping harris and other young guys. There going to suck for 2 years get lottery picks be pretty good and have tons of money to pick up Lebron and they will be a championship contender right away

Everyone buy CAPS season tickets.

Posted by: smartfan | June 30, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Some of you Wizards haters are just plain old retarded. If we do not sign AJ and Gil, who the hell else could we get??? HAve you seen the latest FA list .... NOT VERY GOOD. At least with the Big 3, we have SOME kind of chance but without them, forget about it.

Posted by: Vegas Eddie | June 30, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

"Lots of people with GM experience on this blog. EG better watch out for his job!!!

Posted by: Bart | June 30, 2008 7:22 PM "

Especially since EG's team has been one and done in the playoffs the last 3 seasons.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 30, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I might sign for less than the max, provided that they pay DC Man88 what he's worth. So I'm thinking $123,999,999 would be fair.

Posted by: Gilby | June 30, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Bucky Katt thanks for educating. Abe definitely screwed up the rookie contract for Juwan. But he should have let that dude walk once Miami and Detroit threw the outrageous money his way. Would have worked out much better.

Ernie made the right play with Hughes and Jeffries. For that kind of money, you could argue it'd been the right play to let Tawn walk too.

Posted by: Don't do it Abe | June 30, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I think EG is The Man. If he thinks it's a good idea to sign AJ and Arenas, I trust him. If he does it because Abe Polin wants to do it, different story. Personally, I can't see giving Arenas a huge deal, but I gladly defer to EG. Clearly he is building a roster of 7 footers who can run the court. At some point, that has to pay off.

Posted by: AAA | June 30, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

AJ needed to get done. He got fair market value and so did the Wiz, if what is reported is correct. GA is the wild card, as usual. He could have really helped the Wiz by not opting out, but he is too insecure. Needs the love from the league. Hopefully he leaves some left over for EM. And perhaps the Wiz can get GA for 4 years rather 6 as well.

Posted by: oddjob | June 30, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Were always going to be an average team. I like what the Nets are doing. keeping harris and other young guys. There going to suck for 2 years get lottery picks be pretty good and have tons of money to pick up Lebron and they will be a championship contender right away

Everyone buy CAPS season tickets.

Posted by: smartfan | June 30, 2008 9:22 PM

And you don't like what Ernie Grunfeld has done?!?!

He's built a core of veterans (Arenas, Butler, Jamison) along with a group of talented youngsters (Young, Blatche, McGee, McGuire, etc....) that can compete now.... AND THEN in 2009-2010 trade for an ELITE player or two (using expiring contracts of Thomas/Daniels/Haywood) to go for a Championship run?/?!?

They may not win anything this year... but they can certainly do some damage in 2009-10 and beyond.!!

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