Meeting JaVale McGee

The Wizards are having a press conference at 2 p.m. today to introduce rookie first-round pick JaVale McGee. I'm looking forward to meeting the young man.

A link to the story I wrote today about Gilbert Arenas and free agency which opens tonight at midnight. I can't shed a whole lot of more light on what is going to happen because Gilbert is, well, Gilbert and Ernie plays cards like Kenny Rogers in The Gambler.

The key thing in all of this is Antawn Jamison. He's going to draw attention because he's the best unrestricted free agent forward on the market. The question becomes this: what is his price and can the Wizards get him and Arenas and still leave enough room under the luxury tax to add another player (a third poing guard perhaps?) Watch out for Philly. The Sixers have 11 million to spend and need a scoring forward but the word from up there is that they may be looking for more of a low post threat.

More later.

By Ivan Carter |  June 30, 2008; 12:46 PM ET
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AJ takes a step back if he goes to Philly and he knows that.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | June 30, 2008 1:06 PM

JaVale should get Blatche to show him around the DC night life.

Posted by: Prison Balls | June 30, 2008 1:08 PM

KEEP THEM ALL. Fortunately, Arenas is a seat filler and Jamison is Abe's favorite player. I'll take those cards.

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | June 30, 2008 1:19 PM

I will be checking back to get some updates on how the conference goes. Keep some updates flowing.

Posted by: LooseCannon | June 30, 2008 1:22 PM

I wonder what kind of a sign and trade deal might be out there for Jamison or Arenas.

Posted by: George Templeton | June 30, 2008 1:28 PM

AJ takes a step back if he goes to Philly and he knows that.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | June 30, 2008 1:06 PM

Depends on what AJ wants at this point. If this is his last contract and philly overpays, will he say no? What if a contender offers him their exemption? The only way the Wiz can keep him is if he just wants to be here.

Posted by: Truthsayer | June 30, 2008 1:28 PM

Philly don't want A J. doesn't really fit their scheme and Abe is leaving Antawn in his will.

Posted by: G$ | June 30, 2008 1:32 PM

I think what he's saying is that Antawn doesn't want to leave us to go to another up and coming team. It would kind of be like where he was 4 years ago.

The Wiz (with everyone healthy) can build off what they have been doing.

Posted by: Soup's Uncle | June 30, 2008 1:40 PM

It would make no sense for Philly to sign Jamison to a long-term deal. They were a sub -500 team last season that sneaked into the playoffs based mostly on the overall weakness of the East. But with the East getting stronger, even if they do sneak back in next season, they're still years away from being anywhere near contending. By the time they get there, Jamison will either be deep on the downside or gone. They'd be better served using (or saving) their money for a younger talent who can grow with the team and be ready to peak when they're in position to make some real noise a few years from now.

The only way Jamison leave is is if the Wiz seriously lowball him and/or some other team offers to ridiculously overpay him. I don't see either happening.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 1:48 PM

I'm with you Burg. Keep them both. I be glad when they BOTH sign. Then sit back and watch all of the HATERS attack!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 1:49 PM

I would be shocked if AJ went to Philly. The Wizards are much closer than Philly. But then again this is the Eastern conference. Every team is just that close to getting to the finals.

Posted by: Bart | June 30, 2008 1:53 PM

What is AJ's family situation? Does he have school age kids who he might not want to uproot?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 1:58 PM

Elton Brand may opt out of his contract today...what if the Wizards let Twan walk, and signed Brand to a 4 yeah contract starting at 15M-16M (they are 11M under the cap and would use their whole MLE). As much as I love twan, this gives up low post scoring, a significant increase in D and block shots, and we dont sacrifice anything in the leadership / locker room category. The only risk is injury, and yes that is a risk.

Also the you can sign your own players for whatever you want, even if you are over the cap, so the Wiz could still (and would have to, to make the Brand signing make any sense) sign Gil for 6 years starting at 16 M. I believe this would put us right at the luxury tax

I think this makes us significantly better. Anyone else's thoughts?

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 2:07 PM

Family situation? Which team is "closer?" We are talking about millions of dollars. He'll proably do what you or I would do: take the highest offer.

Posted by: Patrick | June 30, 2008 2:14 PM

Elton Brand may opt out of his contract today...what if the Wizards let Twan walk, and signed Brand to a 4 yeah contract starting at 15M-16M (they are 11M under the cap and would use their whole MLE).

And, again, this will not work. The only way the Wizards could get far enough under the cap to offer a FA more than the MLE would be to renounce the rights to both Arenas and Jamison. And even then, depending on how much the cap increases by next season, they still might not be far enough under to offer the max to Brand.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 2:31 PM

Gil and twan are unrestricted free agents, I thought that meant we have no rights to them...

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 2:33 PM

"Gil and twan are unrestricted free agents, I thought that meant we have no rights to them..."

It means just the opposite, actually.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 2:35 PM

We have "Bird" rights.... which means we can re-sign them for the maximum 6-year contract (vs. 5 years for other teams) AND they count against the Wizards Salary Cap at 150% of their current salary UNTIL they are either signed, OR renounced.

That means, effectively, the Wizards CANNOT sign any Free Agents except by using the allowed Exceptions (LLE, MLE, etc)...

Posted by: Rook | June 30, 2008 2:38 PM

It means we have rights? we can match contracts? I am confused, I thought the whole point of being an unrestricted free agent was that you had complete control and no team has rights to you? I am not saying you are wrong, but I clearly have a different understanding. Where are you getting your information, because I have no basis for my knowledge, except for being a fan for a long time and making my own assumptions. I am curious where I can get an explanation

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 2:40 PM

We've seen stranger things happen in free agency, so we can't completely discount the possibility of AJ leaving for Philly. With Damelbert behind him, his defensive deficiencies would be minimized alittle bit. A lineup of Dalembert, Iggy, Andre Miller and Jamison is formidable.
On the other hand, they just drafted consecutive first round PF's in Thaddeus Young and Speights. It's highly doubtful they'd sign a long term contract at that position with a veteran and let the youngsters flounder on the bench. It just doesn't make sense. Jamison will be a Wiz.

Posted by: mark | June 30, 2008 2:40 PM

Posted by: Rook | June 30, 2008 2:41 PM

I like Ernie and he's a great addition to the Wizards. However, Ernie is in a great position especially if there's a youth movement.

1. There's a replacement for every position except Gilbert's scoring. (However the Wiz made it to the playoffs without Gil and not taking away Gil's presence because they are a better team w/ Gil on the floor)

2. I see Javale as a Tashaun Prince type. A new draft pick and straight to the Finals as a rookie. With some experience, Javale Mcgee can play up to Kevin Garnett or better in this league.

3. Jamison already has a back-up in Andray Blache. Andray will play defense, rebound on both ends and most importantly score. Not only that, Andray causes problems with players he defend on opposing teams (watch Andray defend against Garnett).

4. Free Agency: We have the best eye for talent in Ernie. We just need to our bench/back-ups...it's GAME TIME.

I understand what Gilbert is doing and he has earned the respect throughout the league, however, I'll stick with Ernie and Eddie Jordan if the Wizards have to make a youth movement....

Posted by: Go-Go KOA | June 30, 2008 2:46 PM

Thanks, and damn it. I want Elton Brand

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 2:48 PM

"I am confused, I thought the whole point of being an unrestricted free agent was that you had complete control and no team has rights to you?"

Depends on what kinds of "rights" you're talking about. An unrestricted FA is free to sign with whatever team he wants. Period. The team he's with has no right of first refusal or any rights to match offers. But they do have the right to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own players (under certain conditions) which usually means they can offer more money than any other team. But, again, there are conditions attached.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 2:50 PM

$100 million...is $40 million more than Gilbert is worth. Love ya Gilbert, but a $100 million contract will wreck this team.

Posted by: woodbridge holla | June 30, 2008 2:51 PM

"I see Javale as a Tashaun Prince type."

I hope not. I'm a Pistons fan and think Prince is a great player, but he's a SF. If McGee turns out to be anything other than a legit C, then he was a wasted pick. The Wiz don't need any more small playing big men.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 2:53 PM

This is all about getting a discount.. we need AJ and GA to work with Ernie a bit here... too many max contracts and a team dies. Role players are too vital, everyone knows this, including Arenas. Let's see how much of a "team player" Arenas is, as he has always claimed to be. 6 years at 100-108 large, so there's room for AJ and some role players in the future.

Posted by: Discounts | June 30, 2008 2:56 PM

With the way the Collective Bargaining Agreement reads:

The Wizards can offer Arenas (and/or Jamison) a 6-year contract.

Other teams can only offer a 5-year contract.

The Wizards can offer 10.5% raises (based on the first year of the contract)

Other teams can only offer 8% raises (based on the first year of the contract)

Other information:
Raises are NOT compounded. Raises are imited to a percentage of the first year salary.

Posted by: Rook | June 30, 2008 2:57 PM

As much as I luv AJ & Gil, something isn't working with this crew.
So if we have to blow it up, then lets do ti while they have worth.

Sign & trade would be preferable of course for Gil since he's is worth a heck of a lot.

If he can bring Elton here, then EG knows how to do it.

Posted by: Victor | June 30, 2008 3:06 PM

I don't understand the Elton Brand obsession on this board.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 3:23 PM

Looks like Jamison is back for the next 4 years

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3467806

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 3:51 PM

Posted by: Rcpike | June 30, 2008 3:51 PM

espn reporting that 4-year, $50 million contract with AJ likely to be signed before midnight

Posted by: stk | June 30, 2008 3:54 PM

Thanks for the link Ben & RCPIKE, 4 yrs/$50M is at least $10M more than what I thought would be a legit offer to keep AJ. Glad he could get his, but I think it'll be a bad contract for us. Unless we go over the luxury tax & use our MLE, we will be in the same crunch for bodies as last year.

Anyone know if the MLE could be used on multiple guys while still going over the cap (e.g. we're $1M under, can we sign 2 guys for $3M/yr each, assuming the MLE is about $6M)...

Posted by: CN | June 30, 2008 4:01 PM

Thats a good deal. The next three years we have a 20-10 guy at a respectable salary who has a fantastic attitude. In the fourth year, his contract is a trade asset, we may never pay that to him.

Posted by: Truthsayer | June 30, 2008 4:01 PM

We really need a 3rd poing guard!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 4:02 PM

Awesome!

Posted by: Prison Balls | June 30, 2008 4:03 PM

How sweet it is...now solidify the trio for a few more years. SMILES ALL AROUND EVERYONE WE GOT ONE OF THE BEST FORWARDS ONCE AGAIN!!!!

OLD SCHOOOOOOOOOOL

:):):):):):):)

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | June 30, 2008 4:04 PM

Thanks for the link. That is a good deal for Jamison IMO, and it also sounds like a good deal we're making to Arenas too. I really hope he get these guys signed up as quickly as possible.

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 4:04 PM

I was thinking about it, I bet that Ernie did not mind having a 4th year, because we have Blatche signed cheap for the next 4 years. I think the plan is as Jamison's production decreases, Blatche will take his minutes and hopefully replace his production. Our PF spot is pretty much locked up between those two guys, and I can't think of a better player to mentor Blatche. Also, with the contracts ending at the same time, the Wiz will have the cap space to re-sign Blatche. This is all assuming that Blatche turns out to be the player we all hope he can be, and has shown the talent to be

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 4:06 PM

Anyone know if the press conference for McGee was televised? They don't have video of it on the Wizards site, at least not yet.

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 4:07 PM

I'm sure EG wants to have AJ signed before the deadline tonight, so that he can use that as leverage with Gil, since Gil stated he wanted to see AJ back next year.

I forgot that AJ was still under contract until tonight, as opposed to Gil, who opted out June 9th, or so. Still very concerned about the size of AJ's deal, hope it pays off, but we'll find out in 4 years or so...

Posted by: CN | June 30, 2008 4:09 PM

Looks like ESPN scooped ya, Ivan. ;)

Jamison to get $50 mil over 4 years:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3467806

Posted by: RH | June 30, 2008 4:09 PM

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 4:09 PM

I have no problem at all with the 4 years. Jamison is 32 but he has always kept himself in amazing shape. Also his game does not rely on high flying or athleticism. His game is one of flip shots, 3pt shooting, and craftiness under the boards. Those are things he'll still be able to do as he ages.

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 4:12 PM

No real surprise. Pretty much what some of us have been predicting for months. Nice they got it done early. The sooner these guys are locked up, the sooner we can be done with the speculation and (hopefully) the whining about how they're not worth it.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 4:13 PM

CN, yes you can split the MLE to sign more than one player. I think the bi-annual exception can also be split, though I have no idea if that was used last year or not.

Posted by: rgz | June 30, 2008 4:15 PM

the jamison offer is a tough one. typically at his age, you don't want to offer a large contract, because players tend to decline. but jamison has seemed to buck that trend. last year was arguably his best year ever, individually.

because of that, i don't think 4 years at $50 mil is too much. and actually, i like that better than 5 years at 50. either way we're over the cap. having a shorter contract is better for us. the only question is if this interferes with retaining arenas.

Posted by: JC | June 30, 2008 4:15 PM

It looks like Gil and AJ will both be Wizards shortly. If the contract numbers in these articles are correct -50 for 4 years: AJ and ~100 for 6 years: Gil- that will put us right at the luxury tax threshold. I expect it to be ~70 million. That doesn't leave us any more room to use our mid-level exception without going over that threshold. Will Abe get over his luxury tax fear and give up that welfare check so this team can add one more piece? We are still missing that key role player, IMO. If anything, that player would provided some roster depth that we sorely lacked last year.

Posted by: Joe | June 30, 2008 4:25 PM

EG had to take care of AJ first before he knew how much was available to offer Arenas...Jamision is not only very productive and durable, but he's a leader on and off the court. Glad to see that was justly rewarded if ESPN's report is true.

If Gilby isn't too greedy, we may have some room to use the MLE to re-sign Mason or another guard. Hope EG doesn't go insane and give him the max for 6 years.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 30, 2008 4:27 PM

Basically, they are flip flopping Aj's and Gil's yearly salaries.

AJ was $16.4m last season while Gil was around 10 or 11.

Now AJ's 10 or 11 and Gil will go about 16.

Nice logistics EG.

Posted by: Flip flop | June 30, 2008 4:29 PM

I hate this new Nike sponsored Olympic team! I liked the Olympics alot more when the US only sent amateurs from High School and College. I'd rather see guys like Rose, Beasley, Alexander, Rush, Lopez and Hibbert representing our country instead of this overhyped overpaid allstar team.

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 4:30 PM

That 'key role player' should be Keyon Dooling, a defense first point guard who can guard some 2s. Then maybe they could trade AD for a big player at the end of their career who can get a defensive rebound.

Posted by: Justin, D.C. | June 30, 2008 4:35 PM

"Then maybe they could trade AD for a big player at the end of their career who can get a defensive rebound."

Such as?

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 4:37 PM

A max contract is too much for Gilbert.

Fans won't come if the team doesn't do well, with or without Gil.

Six years is a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time in the NBA.

Posted by: Don't do it Abe | June 30, 2008 4:43 PM

Would signing Gilbert to a max deal really be a worse contract than signing Jamison to a four year deal worth $50 that will expire when he is 36?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 4:47 PM

It looks as if the wizards will be the same old soft, early exiting playoff team with AJ back in the fold and the likely signing of GA. The Cavs exposed two major and obvious weaknesses to the current wizards roster. They can't play defense either b/c they have poor perimeter and/or bad interior defenders, and they cannot keep the opposition off the boards. I'm not sure how EG plans on addressing these problems. They didn't do it in the draft b/c JaVale is a toothpick and they continue to draft and develop perimeter oriented power forwards.

Obviously I am a pessimist at the prospects for next year, as I believe every other team in the east is making significant progress while the Wiz passively stand pat. The only way I see them taking the next step is for Nick Young and Andray to take huge steps this summer. Somehow I doubt either will happen, particularly with AB

Posted by: M.E.G. | June 30, 2008 4:47 PM

I hope Alicia wins the contest for final Wizard Girl!!! She is a fox! That other girl Danielle has weird looking arm pits.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 4:53 PM

agreed for the most part, MEG

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 4:54 PM

If we flipped AJ & GA, then we have room for the guard who get's paid nothing but plays for a contract. Just like DS 2 years ago and Mason this past year. Probably won't be a big flashy name until they start raining down 3 pointers off the bench and start earning a future payday.

Posted by: Cballer | June 30, 2008 4:55 PM

Good move by Ernie to sign Antawn.
His numbers have been fairly consistent over the years as to PPG. And he made an effort to bring his rebounds per game up last year. His most productive year in terms of points was actually his third year at GSW.
There's some awesome videos on Youtube of that year.
His career stats:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/antawn_jamison/career_stats.html
I think we will have a few more years of average 20PPG from Antawn. As they bring his minutes down to save his knees, his production will suffer a bit. Unless he takes some shooting lessons from Hopla and brings his FG% up a bit.

Posted by: rgz | June 30, 2008 4:55 PM

I hate this new Nike sponsored Olympic team! I liked the Olympics alot more when the US only sent amateurs from High School and College. I'd rather see guys like Rose, Beasley, Alexander, Rush, Lopez and Hibbert representing our country instead of this overhyped overpaid allstar team.

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 4:30 PM

It never made sense to me that, under the old system, the Europeans could use professional basketball players from their leagues, and everyone could use "amateur" track and field athletes who customarily received hundreds of thousands of dollars in "appearance fees," but we couldn't use NBA players. The current system seems more fair, and less hypocritical, to me. Besides, I think that the Olympics should be about the best athletes in the world competing against each other, regardless of whether they are "amateur" or "professional."

Posted by: rbpalmer | June 30, 2008 4:57 PM

Mediocrity is clearly fine with Abe/EG. Let's sign AJ, Gilby, and Mason and continue with status quo.

At least Abe knows fools out there will continue to come and cheer whether there's playoff success or not.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 30, 2008 4:58 PM

Wizards have to play the hand they havebeen dealt. If Jamison goes in the 4 year $50 million range, then the team has kept its word to Gilbert and he has to look pretty seriously at $100 million for six years as I doubt anyone will top that offer at this stage. The key is whether we can go to the high end of the mid-level what with the lux tax. If not, Keyon Dooling is I think I a fine possibility for us too.

Posted by: khrabb | June 30, 2008 5:01 PM

rbpalmer,

Yeah I agree on some levels with that. But I guess the thing is, I like being and rooting for the underdog. It was always so great when our amateurs would beat the other country's professionals, such as when our hockey team beat the big bad russians. To me I'd be much more excited to see our college players like Tyler Hansborough, Hibbert and company beating the Europeans. If our Allstar team wins, to me it's no big deal, and not even really worth watching. And our allstars haven't even done any better than our amateurs were doing to begin with!

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 5:04 PM

Who cares. All this money being thrown around to a team that can't get out of the first round. What are we building? When Boston turned it around in one year. The wiz might not even make the playoffs next year with the drama queen squad. An with all this money tied into these players won't be able to make moves either. Look at the bulls,heat,bucks,raptors, etc. I'll take wade,marion,beasley,haslem over arenas, jamison, butler. We have all jump shooters.

Whatever, its all about the CAPS. the only legit team that has a chance to win a championship. don't buy wiz tickets buy CAPS season tickets. The atmosphere was amazing

Posted by: smartfan | June 30, 2008 5:04 PM

I really like what Mason did last year. He is exactly the type of role player that every team needs. He excelled when he had a defined roll: coming of the bench to make some open threes, play good defense and not make mistakes. I admit, he had miserable series against the Cavs, but I think he was a valuable contributor when too much was not asked of him.

On another note, there hasn't been a lot of discussion about Caron's hip injury. He clearly wasn't himself at the end of the year. Ivan, do you have any updates on his hip. Is it the type of injury that could flare up or worsen?

Posted by: M.E.G. | June 30, 2008 5:07 PM

McGee isn't a "toothpick." He's the same weight as Marcus Canby, who's been a pretty effective 5 in this league. And McGee's lifting weights four times a week, so look for him to put on some more pounds before the start of the season.

Posted by: John Brisker | June 30, 2008 5:07 PM

Not to mention that, if we used only high school and college players, we'd get our brains beaten out each year!

Posted by: rbpalmer | June 30, 2008 5:07 PM

Go on the Wizards site and vote for Alicia!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 5:09 PM

CN and MEG I am with you. For a 32-year-old player who is useless on one end of the floor 4-years, $50 mill.
This team hasn't improved and for those of you who say "well if this team is healthy we will be a contender" why should we believe 2008-09 will be any different. This group can't stay healthy. I think most of us felt changes needed to be made after the last first round loss and the status quo is preserved.
I am unconvinced that this will be any different, I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: George Templeton | June 30, 2008 5:10 PM

I'm of pretty much the same opinion, George. But, at the same time, I can see why Grunfeld opted for this. Realistically his only other viable choice would be to gut the thing and start from scratch and I can see why he didn't want to go down that road.

Posted by: kalorama | June 30, 2008 5:13 PM

it may be less than $50M

Posted by: Ben | June 30, 2008 4:09 PM

ESPN is infamous for rushing to be the first to report things at the expense of accuracy (Eli Manning's dislocated shoulder, anyone). So, I bet that Ivan is going to wait in hopes of having a more concrete number to report. Just for fun, I will put out what I think the real contract will be. 4 years for between 46-47 Million.

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 30, 2008 5:16 PM

Well I am glad we are going to resign them. We will be alot bigger overall with the return of Etan, the addition of McGee, and moving Blatche full time to the PF mix with Jamison and Songaila. This also should allow us to use Jamison more at SF where his size is more effective. Hopefully McGuire and especially Young will both improve and contribute more. Arenas returning moves Daniels from the starting lineup to the bench. Overall we will be alot deeper, and our bench will be alot better.

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 5:18 PM

Hey, If JaVale is Marcus Camby, kudos to Ernie. If Javale gets 8 minutes a game next year I'll be surprised. Etan will be the back-up C and Javale will be playing video games

Posted by: M.E.G. | June 30, 2008 5:20 PM

Wiz site JUST put up the video of McGee's press conference.

Posted by: Darnell | June 30, 2008 5:21 PM

McGee isn't a "toothpick." He's the same weight as Marcus Canby, who's been a pretty effective 5 in this league. And McGee's lifting weights four times a week, so look for him to put on some more pounds before the start of the season.


Posted by: John Brisker | June 30, 2008 5:07 PM

I'm glad to see that someone else is paying attention to the actual measurables for McGee, instead of saying nonsense about him being Minute Bol. He weighs 241 lbs now that he is lifting weights regularly (all the lower weights are old info) and his wing-span is 7'6", not his height. He is 7 feet tall.

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 30, 2008 5:37 PM

McGee will play more than Etan next year,yup you heard it here first,after summer league where he will shine no doubt he will get more acclamated to EJ's scheme, no he is not a toothpick and yes he is very athletic and an intimidating shot blocker.He will work with the staff and become a better rebounder, all rookie first teamer book it!!!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag@aol.com | June 30, 2008 6:25 PM

yes, i heard him "McGee on coach Thompson's radio show today, and he sounded pretty mature and sure of himself already. He talked about adding more muscle and staying here this summer, starting now to train and all. He mentioned summer league also. I get a feeling he may be pretty good also. He just seemed mature for a 20year old...moreso than Young and them. He may help the others, seeing how he seemed mature and all.

Posted by: washingtonian | June 30, 2008 7:56 PM

We had a healthy nucleus of Caron, Gilbert & Jamison 3 years ago and they got to the second round. Now they are three years older, w/ Caron & Gilbert losing significant time with injuries and Jamison reaching an age of diminishing returns and increased injury risk. The last time I checked, the goal was to win a championship, not just to be entertaining or make the playoffs. Why max out a guy who doesn't listen to doctors, rehabs himself and gets injured again, by his own admission does NOT want to be a leader, dominates the ball at the expense of team chemistry, threatens to leave if his personnel preferences are not met, fights with the coach, complains that the coach puts too much emphasis on defense, etc.? We need big boys, the kind you can use in the playoffs when NBA players actually come to play, the kind who fight and scratch and defend and will the team to victory. This team is weak in the middle and, like RUN TMC back in the day, will entertain but never get far with its three biggest stars being perimeter players. And why throw away the second pick for cash? Gems can, and are regularly, found there. Not sure which team has worse personnel men, the Wiz or the Skins.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 7:59 PM

"We had a healthy nucleus of Caron, Gilbert & Jamison 3 years ago and they got to the second round. Now they are three years older, w/ Caron & Gilbert losing significant time with injuries and Jamison reaching an age of diminishing returns and increased injury risk. The last time I checked, the goal was to win a championship, not just to be entertaining or make the playoffs. Why max out a guy who doesn't listen to doctors, rehabs himself and gets injured again, by his own admission does NOT want to be a leader, dominates the ball at the expense of team chemistry, threatens to leave if his personnel preferences are not met, fights with the coach, complains that the coach puts too much emphasis on defense, etc.? We need big boys, the kind you can use in the playoffs when NBA players actually come to play, the kind who fight and scratch and defend and will the team to victory. This team is weak in the middle and, like RUN TMC back in the day, will entertain but never get far with its three biggest stars being perimeter players. And why throw away the second pick for cash? Gems can, and are regularly, found there. Not sure which team has worse personnel men, the Wiz or the Skins.

Posted by: | June 30, 2008 7:59 PM "

Just to clarify:

Three seasons ago, the team was eliminated in the first round when Gilby choked on those free throws.

Four seasons ago, the Wiz went to the second round with Larry Hughes leading the way, not Gilby, and Caron wasn't on the team.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=WAS&year=2005

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