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Slim pickings

The Wizards were originally sceduled to workout three players today: F Josh Duncan (Xavier), F Robert Dozier (Memphis) and F Luc Louves (France). Well, Louves and Dozier were on hand but Duncan wasn't and the team added some guys, none of whom figure to be drafted: F Bambale Osby (Maryland), G Gerald Brown (Loyola), F Brad Byerson (Virginia Union) and G Darnell Harris (LaSalle).

I've heard that the team is hoping to land workouts for some potential first-rounders like Donte Greene, the frosh F from Syracuse and Kosta Koufos, the center from Ohio State, but so far, those guys haven't visited.

Thus far, the Wizards have seen a handful of potential first rounders including PG Ty Lawson, C Marrese Speights, F Jason Thompson, G-F Chris Douglas-Roberts and G Mario Chalmers but getting a read on who is going to be there at 18 is difficult. I still wouldn't be shocked if Ernie Grunfeld found a way to move the pick.

By Ivan Carter  |  June 12, 2008; 3:17 PM ET
 
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How come the Blazers can line-up work-out talent a mile long and the Wizards can't? It's not like were the Bobcats or Memphis.

Donte Green would be the perfect draft and stash player.

Posted by: Wizzy | June 12, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm concerned about the players that go to school for one year, don't set the world on fire, then opt for the draft. It would be different if they were lottery picks, but the guys who are late first round picks based only on potential seem to me to be trying to cash in before they've done any work or accomplished anything. Perhaps their family situation requires they do so (e.g., Luol Deng), but perhaps they are not especially motivated to achieve anything other than getting paid.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Re: One year of college ball and then opting for the draft.
Right on.
It's buying a pig in a poke.
Packaging one of our picks and getting someone who can change a game would be nice.
So would going to Vegas for the summer games.
Might as well dream big.

Posted by: VB WizFan | June 12, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm concerned about the players that go to school for one year, don't set the world on fire, then opt for the draft. It would be different if they were lottery picks, but the guys who are late first round picks based only on potential seem to me to be trying to cash in before they've done any work or accomplished anything. Perhaps their family situation requires they do so (e.g., Luol Deng), but perhaps they are not especially motivated to achieve anything other than getting paid.

Posted by: | June 12, 2008 6:16 PM

Another problem with players coming out after only 1 year; especially those with "tremendous upside" - is that they usually take 3 or 4 years to develop. (if they ever develop) - By that time, the drafting team has usually invested a lot of time, money and coaching in the player - and sometimes the player walks for more money in Free Agency.

Drafting a Junior or Senior is the smart move, especially down in the draft... Past the Lottery picks...

Posted by: Rook | June 12, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Second Round you can afford to draft on "potential"... It doesn't cost nearly as much, and you can release them after the 1st year...

2nd round picks don't HAVE to have multi-year guaranteed contracts.

Posted by: Rook | June 12, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Why would he move the pick? There's not much difference between picking #10 or #18 this year, after the first 2 guys, there's not much difference between the next 20.

Posted by: juandixonformvp | June 12, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

i wouldn't be too upset with donte greene at 18, though he didn't perform great in the pre-draft combine drills, which is probably why he may actually end up being available at 18. i'm hoping we'll be able to workout a lot more guys who'd potentially be at 18 than we have so far.

hibbert, robin lopez, and hardin especially. we also should try and get a look at brandon rush, in case he falls just a few spots to us. he'd be a great 2/3 wing player for us, both offensively and defensively. he's very different from both young and mcguire, so wouldn't be a redundant player by any means. plus he'd be able to come in and play right away.

Posted by: JC | June 12, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Of those the Wiz have seen, I guess I would put my money on C Marrese Speights from FL or PF Jason Thompson from Rider for the 18th pick. I would like to also see them evaluate PF Donte Green from Syracuse, though he may not be there at 18. Any of these 3 guys should send a message to AB to promptly get his act in gear as well.

Posted by: oddjob | June 12, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty sad that the Wiz have to dig deep and got a guy like Osby to show up.

Nevermind all that, there is no player at 18 that's going to make a difference on this team to make them better than they were last season. If EG wants improvement, he's going to have to look to free agency and trades.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 12, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Maybe moving the pick so Wiz don't have to take a first rounder, thus skipping the cost and taking two more second rounders instead is EG's thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

The 18th pick does not mean much for us at all. I love Wilbon's idea of Davis and Biedrin's for Arenas. That would be a steal and not sure the Warriors would do it, but..... You never know. To me, the Wiz are in dangerous territory as far as the future of the franchise is concerned and I don't like most options. I see 4-6th seed as our best season for the foreseeable future and that's not too good unless you like better than bad, which leaves you with not too many options to build on.

Posted by: Rob P | June 13, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

My draft wishlist:

1st round - Roy Hibbert

Other players I like:
Donte Green
Brandon Rush
Chase Budinger
Marreese Speights
DeAndre Jordan
Joe Alexander
DeVon Hardin

2nd round - Sean Singletary

Other players I like:
Pat Calathes
Nathan Jawai
James Gist
Ryan Anderson

From what I see Hibbert and Singletary both should be available at our picks. I like Calathes alot in the 2nd but he most likely will be gone, like guys like Alexander and Rush most likely will be gone by 18.

But I love the fact that both these guys are local. I love the fact both played through their senior seasons. Both are ready to contribute, and both fill a need (backup center and 3rd pg). Both are guys who can come in and change the tempo, create matchup problems, and provide some scoring punch off the bench.

We'd have an excellent summer league team IMO with Hibbert, Blatche, Pesh, McGuire, Young and Singletary.

Posted by: Darnell | June 13, 2008 3:11 AM | Report abuse

oddjob, I think you're right on with Speights. I'd be willing to bet EG is targeting him or another long, tall guy like him.

Posted by: mark | June 13, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Ernie, watch out. Wilbon is after your job!

Posted by: oddjob | June 13, 2008 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Brand, Corey Maggette and a #1 for Gil and AJ. The NBA's first ever quadruple sign and trade deal.

Posted by: oddjob | June 13, 2008 7:13 AM | Report abuse

People on this blog keep talking about Hibbert, but nobody knows if he is even scheduled to work out for the Wiz.

I know EG saw DMac play at some camp last year, which is why he got drafted, but did EG work out or check out NY?

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 13, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Yes - Nick Young worked out for the Wizards last year.

Posted by: Rook | June 13, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Ron Artest has a player option for the 2008-09 season, but he has to opt out. I think the deadline is June 30th, but I'm not sure.

He has already been quoted as saying he wants to stay in Sacramento, and will not opt out.

Posted by: Rook | June 13, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

There's still a long time before the draft, so certainly more workouts will come.

Yesterday, the Pacers worked out Hibbert, DeAndre Jordan and JaVale McGee. I'm not sure if we're going to hear the actual results but I'd love to see those three compete against eachother.

You can see some interviews of the players after the workout here:

http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/draft_central_2008.html

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | June 13, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The June 30 deadline was clarified by Ivan a few weeks ago. I think Ivan said that papers/notification is due a week earlier.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 13, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Wizards pick 18th. If you have offers for workouts from teams picking 10, 11, 12, then you are going to give them preference for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Monte | June 13, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Instead of trying to find a diamond in the rough, a superstar in the making, or any other cliche you can throw out there, we should draft an intelligent & seasoned b-ball player that will help the team immediately. There are plenty of players with "untapped potential" on the team, D-Mac, Pesh, Blatche & Young. We now need a player with a high basketball IQ that will do what his role requires, whether it's a PG to run the offense (a la Rondo, Jarret Jack) a steady player who can fill in the box score (Josh Howard, Boris Diaw, David West), or a defensive minded player (Varejao, Ronnie Brewer). All of the players I mentioned were drafted on/after #18 and were not considered to have "tremendous upside" but were noted to be very consistent.

I don't know if that means we draft Hibbert or what, but I know that means we should stay away from the guys earmarked with "top-5 talent, if he were to work harder...."

Posted by: CN | June 13, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

The 18th pick does not mean much for us at all. I love Wilbon's idea of Davis and Biedrin's for Arenas. That would be a steal and not sure the Warriors would do it, but..... You never know.
Posted by: Rob P | June 13, 2008 2:46 AM
Equal value: Arenas & who else, Blatche?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

The problem with Wilbon's deal is that the numbers don't work. And do we really want to pay Biedrins 9Mil per year?

I'd do that deal for Monta Ellis but there's not much of a point in that for GState.

Posted by: Monte | June 13, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Let's get Stephen Jackson from GS so that he can hang out with AB.

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 13, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

"Are you trying to imply that teams with Big starting 2-guards cause the Wizards trouble because DeShawn Stevenson can't guard them?

Posted by: Rook | June 12, 2008 9:12 PM "

Rook, the point is that DeShawn is a relatively one dimensional player. He plays good D, but he is limited on O. If there is no good matchup for him to defend, it eliminates nearly all of his effectiveness. A big opposing 2-guard accomplishes this, because DeShawn, understandably, has trouble bothering the shot of someone who is several inches taller than he is.

The question is, how do we counter? Is there a way to exploit DeShawn's quickness advantage over his matchup without depending on his sketchy shooting touch off the dribble? Or do we need to adjust our lineup somehow?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for that link Johnnie Futbol, it has a good interview with Hibbert.

Posted by: Darnell | June 13, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

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