Juan Dixon Update and Other Notables

I'm getting some questions about Juan Dixon possibly making a return to the Wizards. Here's what I can tell you: The Wizards indeed have interest but I'm hearing that to this point, they are only willing to sign him to a non-guaranteed deal for the vet minimum. In other words, he'd have to come to camp and make the team to make any real money.

With 14 players currently under contract (including of course, Gilbert Arenas) the Wizards don't have much room below the luxury tax threshold and Ernie Grunfeld would iike maintain some level of roster and financial flexibility should the team get hit with a rash of injuries as it did last season.

Last season when he split time between Toronto and Detroit, Juan made around $2.55 million. Right now he's out of work as far as the NBA is concerned so it will be interesting to see what he can land in the the next week or so. As far as the reports that Juan has "worked out" for the Wizards are concerned, don't read too much into that. He has always regularly worked out at the VC during the off-season when he's been in town.

-The team is in the process of finalizing a training camp roster but I can confirm that Linton Johnson and DeMarr Johnson among the players who are in line so far. DeMarr Johnson is an intriguing guy because he can swing between the 2 and the 3 and he has starting experience in the league. He played five games with the Spurs last season after stints with Atlanta, the Knicks and Denver. He has started a total of 176 games since 2000-2001.

-Linton Johnson is a 6-8 forward who has appeared in eight games over two seasons with Toronto and Phoenix. Both Johnson's would be in line to push Dominic McGuire as potential backups to Caron Butler. As I've reported in the past, the team would really like to find a reliable backup at the 3 in order to reduce Caron's load and in order to be prepared should he go down again.


By Ivan Carter |  September 20, 2008; 2:03 PM ET
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That would be nice if he came back. They should have never let JD go in the first place. Good energy guy, solid shooter - it would allay some of my back court fear going into the season. Based on what I saw in summer league, Dee Brown is still a little erratic with the rock.

Posted by: AndNone | September 20, 2008 2:54 PM

Juan is in town. I saw him last night at Shadow.

Posted by: Phil | September 20, 2008 2:55 PM

I really hope we sign Juan and I hope we offer him a deal. The 3 is not as pressing to me because Jamison can play there. If Caron got hurt, we can start Jamison at SF and go with Blatche or Songaila at PF. So essentially we have Jamison and McGuire backing Caron, which is pretty good.

Right now all we got behind Daniels is Dee Brown, and all we got behind Stevenson is NY, and that is not enough in either case. Juan would rectify that.

Posted by: Darnell | September 20, 2008 5:30 PM

C'mon Ernie... sweeten the deal a bit and get him in camp. He knows the offense and won't be a knucklehead off the court.
Sounds like a complete no-brainer to me.

Posted by: el freako | September 20, 2008 6:09 PM

Juan is a solid player i would really like to see us pick him up. He was huge for us coming off the bench,i really don't see why we wouldent just sing him flat out. IMO he has proved he can play and make a good contribution to the team.

Also picking him up would satisfy some of the fans that are angry over arenas sitting out a few months the guy is a hometown hero from his days in MD im sure he would be thrilled to be back playing in DC, and I would be all about him beeing back in DC

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:04 PM

I love Juan Dixon and all but come on he is the last thing we need. Go with Demarr Johnson

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:11 PM

No, we were well rid of him the first time around. Dixon himself isn't a problem, he just isn't worth anything other than some quick offense off the bench. But every time he scores in double-digits, the idiot Maryland fans will be screaming for him to start, and every time he goes 0-10 they will be blaming the coaching staff.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 7:48 PM

Sweeten the deal Ernie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 9:11 PM

Dixon is a nice asset for those small handful of games when he scores a significant amount. But he's utterly useless for the bulk of the games when he doesn't. He brings nothing else to the floor other than his scoring, which is both unreliable and, in the grand scheme of things, unremarkable.

Posted by: kalorama | September 20, 2008 9:44 PM

Okay, so Gil is in the dog house, and he needs to earn his keep. We get it.

But let's make sure Ernie knows that we don't want to hear how good the Wiz would be with a full squad. The issue is what's he going to do with the squad he put together that happens to incur injuries.

Gil is out for at least a month or two. D Brown and N Young were terrible in summer league. That leaves Daniels and Stevenson, who are wearing thin.

The Wiz need help. And that's before addressing their recurring issues of no team D, poor rotation management, etc.

What's the grand strategy? Go for a lottery pick? If not, how are they realistically going to break the one and out syndrome given their personnel and injuries? Please pass the truth serum before asking.

Posted by: Izman | September 20, 2008 10:42 PM

Juan Dixon is great, but we need someone like Steve Blake instead.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 20, 2008 10:51 PM

Maybe Ernie should find out what Keith Booth and Xray Hipp are up to as well - either could play some back-up minutes at the 3 spot.

I think Lonny Baxter has also served his time, and would be a good back-up if Etan can't go.

Posted by: Homer | September 21, 2008 12:04 AM

Curious if some actually watched the games with Dixon when he was with the Wiz previously. One of the most inconsistent "shooters" I have seen. 8 for 11 one night and then 3 for 26 over the next two games. I know the kid has a big heart & won a championship at MD but I do not see him bringing any significant impact to this team.

Pollin gave the max money to Gil because, in addition to at one time being an impact player in this league, he also really likes the guy. Just because Juan is a hometown hero is not reason enough to sign him. Don't worry, truly doubt he is going hungry.

I absolutely love Antonio Daniels but he is now 33, we need someone else capable of handling and distributing the basketball. Personally, I am still waxing for Aaron Miles but don't know his status.

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | September 21, 2008 12:28 AM

I think bringing Dixon back would be the perfect replacement for Roger Mason. I hope he comes back

Posted by: Robert S | September 21, 2008 12:48 AM

Heck, if we're talking Terps, how about that other me-first guard, John Gilchrist?

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:21 AM

I hated the Terps, and JD while he was with them, but he would bring many intangibles. He is a winner. Inconsistent shooter, yes. Because of inconsistent minutes, maybe. When all is said and done, with him on the court you have the potential for blow up offensive numbers and at the end of the game, if we have confidence in him, and he believes it again, the guy is a straight up winner. I would think a sign and trade would be necessary to bring him in and stay under the penalty.

Our combo bigs can spell Caron, we just don't because we(fans and coaches) lack confidence in anyone but our stars.I believe in JD because he killed all my hopes for seeing the Terps rolling over in the 64, and I could watch all the games when he was with the Wiz. He was young, forced his shot, but occasionally blew up and never missed.

Posted by: yankeevicar | September 21, 2008 9:03 AM

Seems to me that a lack of scoring is one of our biggest issues when Gil is out. The threat of Juan Dixon is good enough to make CB and AJ better by freeing them up. No sagging off the guy. He's streaky but his rep is that of a guy who is not afraid to shoot it. He's no long term answer but we know him. No brainer.

Posted by: mark | September 21, 2008 9:43 AM

The problem with Dixon is that he doesn't have any intangibles. He has one NBA skill, and that's scoring. Problem is, he's not consistent or potent enough at it to merit being the first guard off the bench on a good team. The fact that "we know him" doesn't count for anything. The fans familiarity with a player isn't (and shouldn't be) a consideration when deciding whether a player can help a team.

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 10:17 AM

With respect to kalorama, the intangible he brings is that of being a proven winner. He also sells jerseys in DC

Posted by: yankeevicar | September 21, 2008 11:05 AM

To say that Juan Dixon lacks "intangibles" is pretty bizarre on the face of it. As I understand it, he overcame a lot of serious obstacles to just make it into college ball, much less to carry his college team to a National Championship. He was also projected as an NBA failure and instead has had a decent career. I think his career numbers are about equal to those Roger Mason Jr produced during his "breakout" season last year. Plus his presence as a local player on the Wiz will always trigger some crowd energy when he enters a home game, as it did first time round.

As others have pointed out, the Wizards at this point are very thin indeed in the backcourt. Signing Dixon as a shoot-first combo guard who would be third on the depth charts at both guard positions makes a good deal of sense IMO.

Posted by: khrabb | September 21, 2008 11:14 AM

I like DeMarr. But unless he learned how to shoot, he's nothing more than a taller Stevenson. And shame on Ernie for not offering Juan a gauranteed contract! And shame on Juan if he doesn't come to camp and earn that contract. We all know that Eddie plays favorites and Juan would fall into that category. Plus, he gives the Wiz fans a distraction away from Gil and gives the Wiz some good PR in the wake of them not being honest with fans about Gil's status.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 12:57 PM

And why is Juan unemployed in the first place? That's mind boggling considering the garbage that some teams put on the floor these days!

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 12:58 PM

"With respect to kalorama, the intangible he brings is that of being a proven winner. He also sells jerseys in DC"

None of which matters when it comes to winning games on an NBA court.

"As I understand it, he overcame a lot of serious obstacles to just make it into college ball, much less to carry his college team to a National Championship."

The NBA isn't college.

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 2:32 PM

Kalorama I have to respectfully disagree with you! Dixon is a very pesky defender, didn't he have like 5 steals in a quarter one game he was with us? And those steals lead to fastbreak points the other way and change the momentum of the game. That playoff game vs the Bulls when he put up 35 was possibly the greatest playoff performance in franchise history! I was at the game and it was amazing! He is too small to start at sg and not enough a point to start at there, but as a combo guard off the bench who adds depth to 2 positions he fits that need. He works and plays hard, does what the coach asks, and steps up in big games. Those ARE intangibles!

Posted by: Darnell | September 21, 2008 3:01 PM

For a unexpensive FA pickup, you could do alot worse than Juan Dixon. Especially this late in the offseason. Beggars cant be choosers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 3:04 PM

Agree Dixon is a spark off the bench player. He is a guy who can come in when we are flat or offense out of sync. He comes in with energy, gets some steals, creates fast breaks, and gets some quick buckets. He is a momentum changer, that's what he can do. He can come in for 10 min when we are down 10 and when he comes out we up by 5. That's what he does.

He is a streaky shooter, but can hit those open midrangers and he's money from 12-15 ft. Just sometime he try too hard and start putting up 3s and difficult runners trying to do too much, usually when way behind trying everything possible to get back in the game. When is within himself he is money on those open midrange like Rip, and he is more experienced now and has learned the league and his game since he was last here.

Intangabls:
Scores
Steals
Pass
Energy
Winner
Positive attitude
Hustle
Changes momentum
Knows Eddie's system
Knows role
Coachability (in fact wants to be a coach one day)
Plays 2 positions / depth

Those are all intangables he brings to the table!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 3:19 PM

"For a unexpensive FA pickup, you could do alot worse than Juan Dixon. Especially this late in the offseason. Beggars cant be choosers."

I agree with that entirely. If they can sign Dixon to a non-guaranteed 1-year deal (and can't find anything better for the price), then that's fine. It's a no-risk financial acquisition, just like Dee Brown. But the idea that he should be #1 on their wish list or the expectation that he'll make a considerable difference is nothing but myopic homerism. He's bench-filler, nothing more.

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 4:02 PM

Guys who are "money from 12-15 ft" don't have 4i% career shooting percentages.

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 4:05 PM

That should be "41%."

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 4:07 PM

Ivan,
Since it is pretty unanimous the Wizards organization was less than forthcoming about Gil, can you start pressing for status on some other potential issues?

1. What is Etan's current condition? Has he played any full contact basketball over the summer? Have you seen him play? Is he playing aggressively or conservatively? Even when healthy Etan always struggled with catching the basketball, horrible hands, is he aware of this and working to improve in this area?

2. Nick Young looked poor in summer league, have you seen him play at any other time over the off-season and if so how has he looked? Did he hit the gym this summer and if so has he gained any muscle on that slight frame? Does he verbally acknowledge his defensive weakness and has he focused on this over the summer?

3. Health updates on Butler and Daniels. Both were banged up at the end of last year, are they 100%?

4. Blatche's conditioning, is it improved? If yes, can this be validated with anything tangible?

5. OPEC had another foot/ankle injury, what is his current status?

6. Has DMAC worked on his shot this summer? Can he knock down an 18ft jumper with any consistency now? Any improvement with creating his own shot?

7. Darius Songaila was banged up again before the olympics I believe, what is his status?

Lot of scar tissue from the latest Gil setback and I am sure folks would like to know of other potential issues. You noted your body clock told you it was that time recently, we are also kicking into gear and need more info on the other Wizards players. Thanks very much.

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | September 21, 2008 4:31 PM

The Wizards announced today that Etan Thomas is looking to return in February or March. The plan is for him to begin ramping up his workouts sometime in January.

Pecherov is recovering nicely from his ankle injury. He should be ready to begin the process of walking mid December.

Darius Songaila strained his back in international competition this offseason. He is planning on playing through the pain but expects the injury to limit his quickness and jumping ability.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:52 PM

Dixon shot 41% last season from the field. He also shot 41% from 3.

That's not bad.

Mason last season shot 44% from the field and 40% from 3.

For his career Mason is also 41% from the field, and 37% from 3.

Also Dixon had 1.8 asst and .4 steals in 12 min compared to Roger's 1.7 asst and .5 steals in 21 min.


Dixon and Mason are very comparable players and fill the same void. Mason has more size and Dixon gives alittle more quickness. They are both smart players and consumate professionals.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 6:11 PM

Thanks Anon,
If this is accurate PF and Center are also going to be extreme problem areas.

A March return for Etan is basically saying he is out for the year again.

OPEC not to walk until Dec is almost as bad.

A slower Darius is pretty scary to imagine, no hops to start with so nobody will notice a difference there.

I guess if we were trying see the glass half full we could say Blatche and DMAC should get quite a few more minutes.

Half empty and we can start talking about potential lottery picks even before the college season begins.

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | September 21, 2008 6:14 PM

The Wizards announced today that Etan Thomas is looking to return in February or March. The plan is for him to begin ramping up his workouts sometime in January.

Pecherov is recovering nicely from his ankle injury. He should be ready to begin the process of walking mid December.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 5:52 PM

That's all from last year, dude.

Posted by: Pradamaster | September 21, 2008 7:01 PM

Intangibles?

Johnson was tasered and arrested outside a Denver nightclub on June 9, 2007. He was charged with interfering with police and resisting arrest.[5]
Johnson was arrested for Driving While Intoxicated on May 31,2008 after police saw his black SUV swerving, speeding 20 miles over the speed limit and following other cars closely. His speech was also slurred when pulled over, and he failed both a field sobriety test and a breathalyzer test. He was released after June 1, after posting a $1,000 bail. [6]

Johnson raps under the moniker 'Boss Slim'.

Posted by: LK | September 21, 2008 7:07 PM

I hope the Wiz get Juan back. I know all the arguments against him--he's too small to play shooting guard, his ballhanding is suspect, he's a streaky shooter, etc. But the guy makes things happen when he's out there. When he gets hot from three point range, he can really bury an opponent (remember how he lit up the Bulls for 35 in the playoffs back in 2005?). And he's a really disruptive defender, with a knack for momentum-shifting steals. (I can remember a game against Indiana back in 2002-03 when he had six steals in one quarter.) Finally, he's got a seriousness and mental toughness to him that this team sorely needs.

Posted by: John Brisker | September 21, 2008 7:14 PM

Who would u rather backing up Deshawn ?
Dixon or Nick Young ?

Posted by: Anti-Pride | September 21, 2008 7:28 PM

"Johnson was tasered and arrested outside a Denver nightclub on June 9, 2007. He was charged with interfering with police and resisting arrest.[5]
Johnson was arrested for Driving While Intoxicated on May 31,2008 after police saw his black SUV swerving, speeding 20 miles over the speed limit and following other cars closely. His speech was also slurred when pulled over, and he failed both a field sobriety test and a breathalyzer test. He was released after June 1, after posting a $1,000 bail. [6]

Johnson raps under the moniker 'Boss Slim'.

Posted by: LK | September 21, 2008 7:07 PM "

LMAO!

Sounds like he'd fit in perfectly with the Wiz.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:05 PM

Seems like the Wiz like to turn to local favorites after a debacle.

When MJ got booted by Abe, and the Wiz was suffering a PR nightmare, they went out and drafted a few Terps.

When Gilby goes out with a shocking surgical procedure, they turn back to Juan to calm the natives.

I just wonder, with these moves by EG to give Juan a chance and DerMarr Johnson (a local guy too) a chance are supposed to be able to handle the likes of Elton Brand, Zach Randolph, Beasley, Bosh, Okafor, KG, etc., etc., etc.

Oh I forgot, they signed AJ to bang with all the big guys at the 4. Silly me.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:10 PM

"Seems like the Wiz like to turn to local favorites after a debacle.

When MJ got booted by Abe, and the Wiz was suffering a PR nightmare, they went out and drafted a few Terps."


Uhhh.... hate to burst ya bubble DCMan, but MJ drafted Juan. He traded (my favorite Wiz at the time) Courtney Alexander to Charlotte for the 17th pick that year. Which he used on Juan. The 11th pick that year was used on Jared Jeffries. And I think he drafted Lonny in the 2nd or Lonny got picked up later in the season.


Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:23 PM

No response???

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:29 PM

"Uhhh.... hate to burst ya bubble DCMan, but MJ drafted Juan. He traded (my favorite Wiz at the time) Courtney Alexander to Charlotte for the 17th pick that year. Which he used on Juan. The 11th pick that year was used on Jared Jeffries. And I think he drafted Lonny in the 2nd or Lonny got picked up later in the season.


Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:23 PM "

Hate to burst your bubble, but the Wiz drafted Steve Blake after MJ got booted.

Also, Steve Blake is a type of player that this team could use right about now to run the offense the right way.

Great accolades by EG at the time. Even credited Stevie with being able to "defend."

http://nba.tv/wizards/news/Wizards_Sign_Steve_Blake030821.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:32 PM

No response???

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:33 PM

BTW, looks like OPech could become another wasted Les BouleS pick. Gym rat might take his services elsewhere.

http://thehoop.blogspot.com/2008/09/tau-is-on-lookout-for-another-center.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:33 PM

U said a few terps. Name the others. Or just say they drafted a terp

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:34 PM

No response???

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:35 PM

"U said a few terps. Name the others. Or just say they drafted a terp

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:34 PM "

U said Juan and Lonny, but neglected to mention Stevie.

Uhhhh.....

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:35 PM

No response???

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 8:36 PM

Yes. But YOU said a few terps after MJ. But YOU only named 1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 8:37 PM

I posted that last 1. 4got to use name

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:38 PM

And I didn't neglect to mention Steve. I named the Terps that was drafted BY mj. So if anything, mj was trying to build good pr with the fans since he was still team president. Drafting Steve was just a smart move by Wes

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 8:40 PM

Dang. Slippin with the sign ins. lol

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:41 PM

No Response???

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:42 PM

But to add fuel to your fire, they did bring in a local coach after they got rid of doug collins.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:43 PM

Give up??? Yayyyy. I win. ALL HAIL C.BELL!!!! VICTORY IS MINE!!!! (yes... my life is REALLY this depressing)

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:49 PM

"And I didn't neglect to mention Steve. I named the Terps that was drafted BY mj. So if anything, mj was trying to build good pr with the fans since he was still team president. Drafting Steve was just a smart move by Wes

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 8:40 PM "

Which is and was totally irrelevant as my original post said:

"When MJ got booted by Abe, and the Wiz was suffering a PR nightmare, they went out and drafted a few Terps."

Therefore, my post has nothing to do with any goodwill that you say MJ was trying to build.

The point of my post was AFTER the MJ debacle, they went out and drafted Stevie.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 9:13 PM

"yes... my life is REALLY this depressing

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 8:49 PM "

You don't need to tell me for me to realize that myself.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 9:14 PM

So.......... let's see - - - what's new with the Wizards since the end of last year:

Gilbert Arenas had another knee surgury.

Pecherov has an ankle inujury.

Last report is that Songaila skipped the Olympics, with a bad back.

Caron Butler is in the "best shape of his career".

Andre Blatche had another brush with Johnny Law.

The Wizards drafted a tall, lanky athletic Forward/Center.

There are questions about whether Nick Young can "fit" into the Offense.

The Wizards are "thin" at PG.

DeShawn Stevenson called out LeBron James (in Slam magazine).



Same old - same old ......

Posted by: Rook | September 21, 2008 9:53 PM

"Same old - same old ......

Posted by: Rook | September 21, 2008 9:53 PM "

Huh?

I thought Dee Brown is going to be the difference maker this season.

Sure.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 10:25 PM

No Pech? Well, the Wiz are done! He's the next Dirk Nowitzki, haven't you heard? Ernie Grunfeld said so!

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 10:32 PM

The point of your original post was that after mj got fired, the wiz went out and drafted Terps (plural) for good pr. When in fact they only drafted 1 terp (singular). Sooooooooo...... i guess i'm right

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 11:03 PM

And you just flipped on your own post. You originally stated Terps. Now you trying to say that you was only talking about steve blake when you never mentioned any names!!!! Racist.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 11:09 PM

Please stop with the nonsense about Dixon being any kind of defender. He's a terrible defender. Yes, he'll get the occasional steal, but he gets them by cheating and gambling in the passing lane, an approach with a generally pretty low success rate, meaning that when he doesn't get the steal he's left his man unguarded and turned his man loose for an easy shot attempt. For every point he gets off a successful steal, he probably gives up twice as many as a result of the failed gambles.

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 11:22 PM

"The point of your original post was that after mj got fired, the wiz went out and drafted Terps (plural) for good pr. When in fact they only drafted 1 terp (singular). Sooooooooo...... i guess i'm right

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 11:03 PM

And you just flipped on your own post. You originally stated Terps. Now you trying to say that you was only talking about steve blake when you never mentioned any names!!!! Racist.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 21, 2008 11:09 PM "

Hey ClariBell, it must be the end of the F'n world to you that I said "terps" instead of "terp." Sure seems like it.

Go pat yourself on the back, rub your lil' nub, and call it a night.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 11:28 PM

"Please stop with the nonsense about Dixon being any kind of defender. He's a terrible defender. Yes, he'll get the occasional steal, but he gets them by cheating and gambling in the passing lane, an approach with a generally pretty low success rate, meaning that when he doesn't get the steal he's left his man unguarded and turned his man loose for an easy shot attempt. For every point he gets off a successful steal, he probably gives up twice as many as a result of the failed gambles.

Posted by: kalorama | September 21, 2008 11:22 PM "

Substitute "Dixon" with "Gilby" and you've just described your $111 mil player's defensive skills.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 21, 2008 11:29 PM

c. bell...you made my day(aside from the petty bickering.) i loved courtney alexander. that dude could score. it was cool we got juan with the pick and all but i was sad to see him go. if could have only stayed healthy...i really thought he was gonna do something in the league

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2008 11:31 PM

Courtney Alexander could score but he took more than his share of bad shots too...

The only player from that era of the Bullets/Wizards who could score from outside consistently was Tracy Murray... he could not do much else but he did go for 53 off the bench against Golden State on the road one time.

I say bring Juan to camp and as many people named Johnson as you can find (Gus we miss you!)... we do need a little extra help for sure.

Posted by: khrabb | September 22, 2008 7:07 AM

The best scorer that Les BouleS ever gave up was probably Rip Hamilton.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 7:46 AM

You poster suck! I have never seen what is supposed to be "Wizards fans" talk this badly about "their" supposed team. Do I like what is going on with the Gilbert situation? Hell No! Am I happy that they did not make any notable moves other than the signing of Gil and Jamison, Hell No! But, guess what? I will still be at the games as I was last year, cheering on my team. I can only hope for the best. Hell they played prety damn well last year without Gil and who knows, maybe one of the lesser knowns will step it up. Call me what you want, but I am a "True Wiz FAn" and I can't wait for the season to start to see what we are working with. I will reserve my judgment until then and won't sink to the level of name calling on the players that you posters here seem to enjoy.

Posted by: Glass Half Full Fan | September 22, 2008 8:04 AM

"You poster suck! I have never seen what is supposed to be "Wizards fans" talk this badly about "their" supposed team. Do I like what is going on with the Gilbert situation? Hell No! Am I happy that they did not make any notable moves other than the signing of Gil and Jamison, Hell No! But, guess what? I will still be at the games as I was last year, cheering on my team. I can only hope for the best. Hell they played prety damn well last year without Gil and who knows, maybe one of the lesser knowns will step it up. Call me what you want, but I am a "True Wiz FAn" and I can't wait for the season to start to see what we are working with. I will reserve my judgment until then and won't sink to the level of name calling on the players that you posters here seem to enjoy.

Posted by: Glass Half Full Fan | September 22, 2008 8:04 AM "

Must be nice to get free tickets still, LaSooz.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 8:49 AM

I pay for my tickets TurdMan88. I can afford it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 9:34 AM

88'er, Gil had a "shocking surgery"? As I understand it he had the same procedure that both Kobe and Wade had as a follow up to their knee surgeries. Knowing Gil he might of had it for exactly that reason.

The Dixon debate, Juan knows the offense, has a comfort level here, a fan base to back him, and this is where he played his best NBA basketball. For a streak shooter like Juan, getting a crowd behind you is always a huge boost. Can't imagine the home crowd at Portland or Toronto contained too many Dixon fans.

Dixon is not a great on his man defender against other team's first line guards. His size works against him there, but he does play defense with effort and intensity. Second unit defense is often marked by guys that can gamble and make plays that wouldn't work against starters. That is where Juan excelled. Juan left here because he was sure he could carve out a career as an NBA starter. It didn't work out.

Juan's out of work, the Wizards are thin at both guard spots, it seems to make sense to me that they get together. And it really doesn't have a lot to do with the Maryland thing. But if the Maryland fans out there get behind him, and cheer him on, and he gets on a hot streak and gets his old fire back. Well, that doesn't hurt either.

About this time last year I got lambasted on here for supporting Mason. Think I got called an "old homer" that knew nothing about the game. What's wrong with cheering on a guy that you watched grow up? Mason proved that in the right situation he's a bonafide NBA player. And because of the year he had here he's got the contract to prove it.

Now, I wish Mason the best of luck, I hope he has more of it then Juan did when he left here for a bigger deal and a chance to start. H'mm, it all sounds too familar...

Juan and Ernie, get er' done... It makes sense for both sides. Lonnie Baxter, he can stay on the gun show circuit...

Posted by: GM | September 22, 2008 10:05 AM

"I pay for my tickets TurdMan88. I can afford it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 9:34 AM "

I can afford it too, but I'm not that dumb to buy tickets.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 10:16 AM

GM'er,

Gilby's knee operation normally wouldn't be shocking had it not required 3 attempts to date.

Don't mention Kobe or DWade b/c neither of those dudes were biking around town, running behind parachutes, or playing blacktop ball with 9 ft. rims.

Also, people were going by the reports that Gilby was going to be ready come training camp '08.

The announcement of Gilby's prolonged recovery period didn't come until after the deadline for season ticket renewals. Mighty suspicious and non forthright there by Les BouleS.

I guess everyone missed the posting that Gilby sent out, Mr. Blog extraordinaire himself, that he wasn't coming back until January '09 anyway. Gilby was very adamant about that as he rubbed it in everyone's face.

People keep getting optimistic updates from this Connell cat, but he always seems to be off by many months and wrong about the extent or expectations of the recovery process.

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"Gilbert worked extremely hard this summer to be ready for the beginning of the season," Grunfeld said. "This is very unfortunate because he was starting to play at high level prior to the injury. We expect Gilbert to make a full recovery, and are confident that our other players will step up and help our team win." - Nov. 07

http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/arenas_surgery_071121.html

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Read the statement above where Connell said "Gilbert worked extremely hard this summer," and contrast it to Gilby's actual statement below from his blog:

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"I just have to monitor my body now. Last summer I took it seriously, but I didn’t take it as seriously as I should have.

May 7, 2008 4:00 PM EDT "

http://my.nba.com/forum.jspa?forumID=400032200&start=0

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 10:30 AM

Correction: EG made the statement, not Connell.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 10:32 AM

"I repaired a partial tear of Gilbert's left medial meniscus," said Connell. "In addition, he had a nonweight-bearing articular surface defect in the trochlea treated by microfracture. We are optismitic that he will be able to return to action in three months." - Nov. 07

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM

No you are just dumb enough to make idiotic statements in front of a computer. Turdman! Who gives a crap what you say! If the Wiz are winning you will just flip flop and say how much you like them. Get a life and get of the toilet "DC Turdman/88" What a butthole you are!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM

"No you are just dumb enough to make idiotic statements in front of a computer. Turdman! Who gives a crap what you say! If the Wiz are winning you will just flip flop and say how much you like them. Get a life and get of the toilet "DC Turdman/88" What a butthole you are!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM "

Yeah, you're just making statements about buying tickets too.

If you are indeed buying them, which I doubt, I'm happy for you because there's no better way to waste money than to buy Wiz tickets!

I hope you weren't getting excited thinking you were going to see Gilby on the court come late October.

Ooops, he did it again!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 11:58 AM

If we loose pech to Europe, we have money under the cap to give to Juan which softens the scoring worry from our backcourt. Am I right in thinking that Etan's contract is expiring at the end of the season?

If we stay in contention to the trade deadline, we have the tools to bring in an impact bigman defender from a team looking to shed salary and we are right up there with anyone in the league.

Posted by: yankeevicar | September 22, 2008 11:58 AM

"No you are just dumb enough to make idiotic statements in front of a computer. Turdman! Who gives a crap what you say! If the Wiz are winning you will just flip flop and say how much you like them. Get a life and get of the toilet "DC Turdman/88" What a butthole you are!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM "

Yeah, you're just making statements about buying tickets too.

If you are indeed buying them, which I doubt, I'm happy for you because there's no better way to waste money than to buy Wiz tickets!

I hope you weren't getting excited thinking you were going to see Gilby on the court come late October.

Ooops, he did it again!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 12:01 PM

"No you are just dumb enough to make idiotic statements in front of a computer. Turdman! Who gives a crap what you say! If the Wiz are winning you will just flip flop and say how much you like them. Get a life and get of the toilet "DC Turdman/88" What a butthole you are!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM "

Yeah, you're just making statements about buying tickets too.

If you are indeed buying them, which I doubt, I'm happy for you because there's no better way to waste money than to buy Wiz tickets!

I hope you weren't getting excited thinking you were going to see Gilby on the court come late October.

Ooops, he did it again!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 12:01 PM

"No you are just dumb enough to make idiotic statements in front of a computer. Turdman! Who gives a crap what you say! If the Wiz are winning you will just flip flop and say how much you like them. Get a life and get of the toilet "DC Turdman/88" What a butthole you are!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM "

Yeah, you're just making statements about buying tickets too.

If you are indeed buying them, which I doubt, I'm happy for you because there's no better way to waste money than to buy Wiz tickets!

I hope you weren't getting excited thinking you were going to see Gilby on the court come late October.

Ooops, he did it again!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 12:01 PM

"No you are just dumb enough to make idiotic statements in front of a computer. Turdman! Who gives a crap what you say! If the Wiz are winning you will just flip flop and say how much you like them. Get a life and get of the toilet "DC Turdman/88" What a butthole you are!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM "

Yeah, you're just making statements about buying tickets too.

If you are indeed buying them, which I doubt, I'm happy for you because there's no better way to waste money than to buy Wiz tickets!

I hope you weren't getting excited thinking you were going to see Gilby on the court come late October.

Ooops, he did it again!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 12:01 PM

"c. bell...you made my day(aside from the petty bickering.) i loved courtney alexander. that dude could score. it was cool we got juan with the pick and all but i was sad to see him go. if could have only stayed healthy...i really thought he was gonna do something in the league"


Yeah, sorry bout that bickering spat. Must've been the 151 talking. I usually stay away from that type of mess. DCMan, no disrespect to you at all. I apologize for my rude remark. And yes, it does mean the world to me. English was my major so when I see a mistake, I tend to correct it.

As far as Courtney goes, I think if Eddie was around when we had him, he would be in the rotation right now. He's the same height as DeShawn but was a better ball handler and passer. Bring him to camp instead of Linton Johnson.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 12:02 PM

"No you are just dumb enough to make idiotic statements in front of a computer. Turdman! Who gives a crap what you say! If the Wiz are winning you will just flip flop and say how much you like them. Get a life and get of the toilet "DC Turdman/88" What a butthole you are!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 11:39 AM "

Yeah, you're just making statements about buying tickets too.

If you are indeed buying them, which I doubt, I'm happy for you because there's no better way to waste money than to buy Wiz tickets!

I hope you weren't getting excited thinking you were going to see Gilby on the court come late October.

Ooops, he did it again!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 12:02 PM

"If you are indeed buying them, which I doubt, I'm happy for you because there's no better way to waste money than to buy Wiz tickets!"

You must've never been to a Mystics game then. LMAO!

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 12:05 PM

I hate to interrupt this little pissing match, but some things must not go unmentioned.

C.Bell, Courtney Alexander was a terrible ballhandler and passer. Just awful. his assist to TO ratio was about 1 to 1 as I recall.

Posted by: kalorama | September 22, 2008 12:22 PM

Stevenson's Wizards A/TO ratio, by contrast, is about 2.2 to 1.

Posted by: kalorama | September 22, 2008 12:26 PM

Yeah, he had a bad turnover ratio. But 1, he was playing out of position. And 2, who was he passing to?? If I recall that squad, it was him, a rookie Rip, Ike Austin, and that's all I can remember. Try not to look at the numbers and focus more on talent. I think talent wise, he is better than Deshawn. As bad as he was with the ball (stat wise), he's still 10 times better than Deshawn.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 12:27 PM

Again, Stevenson's numbers look better because of the system he plays in and the talent level surrounding him. 2 things that Courtney didn't have at the time. I'm saying that if you put Courtney in Deshawn's spot now, he would be better than Stevenson. Coming out of college, Alexander was a scoring machine. When he got to the Wiz, they trie to make him a point gaurd.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 12:30 PM

I made that last post as well

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 12:30 PM

Sorry, but that's just wrong.

Stevenson is a better ballhandler than Alexander ever was. Period. (Which is not the same as saying Stevenson is a great ballhandler.) Yes, Alexander could score, but that's all he could do. He was always a lousy ballhandler and playmaker. Putting better players around him wouldn't change that.

And as far as that goes, it's not like Stevens was surrounded by HoFers. Arenas missed basically all of last year and Butler was out for almost 1/3 of the season. That left Jamison. Stevenson still managed to put up a career high in assists and his third lowest TO numbers of his career. He simply has better court vision than Alexander ever had, because the only thing Alexander ever saw on the court was the rim.

Posted by: kalorama | September 22, 2008 12:38 PM

"I hate to interrupt this little pissing match, but some things must not go unmentioned.

C.Bell, Courtney Alexander was a terrible ballhandler and passer. Just awful. his assist to TO ratio was about 1 to 1 as I recall.

Posted by: kalorama | September 22, 2008 12:22 PM "

It's sad to see that a nobody by the name of Courtney Alexander is a topic of conversation on this blog.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 12:52 PM

Hey, i just talked to Gilbert, he said I need to remove myself from his butt. Its tough for him to BM when my tougue is stroking his colon

Posted by: Ivan | September 22, 2008 1:00 PM

Again, I take nothing away from Stevenson. He fits in perfectly for this team. But he is in a system where he is not the primary ball handler. Eddie JOrdan's offense is tailor made for someone of Courtney Alexander's abilities. Courtney had nobody other than Rip to defer to and God knows who was coaching him (Gar freakin Heard?). All i'm saying is that I would like to see Alexander in Stevenson's position for 1 season and see who would put up the better numbers

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 1:04 PM

I dont think its sad DCMan. It shows the true definition of a fan. The fact that Kalorama and I can have a conversation about someone who played 1 season for us 5 or 6 years ago, without running to espn or wikipedia to remember who he was, shows the intangibles it takes to be called a "Die Hard Fan". There's a ton of bloggers on this site whose loyalties only goes back about 3 or 4 years. Right around the time we started winning again (coincidence?). But a Die Hard like myself, I can talk about the Bullets/Wizards 24/7. Any player, any season (except the C-Webb Era...too painful)!

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 1:19 PM

"Again, I take nothing away from Stevenson. He fits in perfectly for this team. But he is in a system where he is not the primary ball handler. Eddie JOrdan's offense is tailor made for someone of Courtney Alexander's abilities. Courtney had nobody other than Rip to defer to and God knows who was coaching him (Gar freakin Heard?). All i'm saying is that I would like to see Alexander in Stevenson's position for 1 season and see who would put up the better numbers

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 1:04 PM "

Again, as I've asked in the past, who gives a crap about EJ's Princeton Offense?

What is the hype behind this scheme/system?

Does it blend in well with the players on this team?

What teams in the past have actually won anything that employs the "Princeton Offense?"

Why isn't there a "Princeton" defense?

If it didn't have the name "Princeton" associated with it, but was instead called the Bismarck North Dakota Offense, would anyone give a crap?

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 1:22 PM

Yeah they would. The offense works. Regardless of the catchy name that's associated with it. And no, its not a true Princeton offense. But it uses the same priciples. And Eddie is sucessful wherever he was when he used it. In Sac-Town, its what the Kings used during their run. He used it in New Jersey and they went to back to back finals. And he brought it to DC and made us into a playoff team. And I know you're gonna counter that none of those teams won a title but none of those teams won ANYTHING before he got there.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 1:49 PM

And what about those teams that employ a non-Princeton offense that maxes their players abilities and actually win something?

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 1:57 PM

Bethesda, MD: Mike, could you comment on the Gilbert Arenas mess? Here we were thinking what a great guy he was for signing for "only" $111 million, when both he and the team apparently knew he was facing a 3d opertion on his damged left knee that would keep him out of the lineup until sometime next year.

I respectfully submit this was not a good use of Abe Pollin's money. I love the guy, but he seems to be ----'d once again. And it further -----s that they did not tell season ticket holders about this until after their deadline to renew season tickets had passed.

Michael Wilbon: I don't what to think about Gilbert, to tell you the truth. What a mess. On one hand, Amare Stoudemire and Jason Kidd have to have this additional surgery after the complex microfracture procedure. They did just fine. On the other hand, three surgeries of any kind (even when two are scopes) don't bode well. Without Gilbert, the Wizards can be okay...alright. But they can't be special. They can't be one of the elite teams in the NBA. No chance. This was the risk going in. It's why I said before signing him I'd have seriously explored a trade for Baron Davis and Biedrins, the 6-11 European kid who can block shots like mad and rebound and play defense...something the Wizards don't have enough of...But that ship has sailed and now the Wizards start the season with their $111 million man on the sideline. Unbelievable. And remember, every team in the division is better (Charlotte, Orlando, Miami)...And Philly could be a LOT better...And Milwaukee should be better. Goodness. Elton Brand, coming off his surgery, would be a much better option than Arenas just starting another rehab...What a downer.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 2:01 PM

hibachiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

Posted by: prescrunk | September 22, 2008 2:22 PM

And what about those teams that employ a non-Princeton offense that maxes their players abilities and actually win something?

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 1:57 PM

I'm sure they use it. Aint but only 3 plays ran in the NBA

1. The pick and roll/ pick and pop
2. The princeton Offense
3. The give the ball to the superstar and everybody move play. (popularized by Iverson, but ran in the ground by Lebron)

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 2:24 PM

Wilbon is a stooge.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 2:30 PM

My sentiments exactly.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 2:33 PM

If Gil had 2 bad knees, I still wouldn't trade him for Baron Davis and Beidrins.

Posted by: C.Bell | September 22, 2008 2:35 PM

Juan Dixon should be putting feelers out to european teams. He'd have better luck over there. He's not a good enough ball handler to play the one and he's not big enough to play the two. He's a poor man's Ben Gordon, who also is waiting to sign a contract.

Posted by: Aaron | September 22, 2008 2:36 PM

I agree Juan would do well in Europe... he might also do well in DC.

Posted by: khrabb | September 22, 2008 2:45 PM

Juan is a good guy, but let's not get overhyped.

I don't think EG offered him a contract outright.

EG offered him a chance to compete during camp for a spot.

What we do know about Juan is that he'll give you 100% every time.

He's not going to show up late and have a grand entrance, he's not going to be accused of insubordination, he's not going to complain about being told to play D, etc...none of that.

Juan is a pro and will act like one. He's a character guy.

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 3:14 PM

If the Wizards sign DeMarr Johnson, then Blatche would no longer be the Wizards' second worst driver.

Juan would be a terrific signing, IF he could handle some point guard responsibilities, which he can't.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 22, 2008 3:51 PM

C.Bell, you can't put lipstick on a pig. Alexander averaged about 30 mpg with the Wiz in his two seasons here and only averaged 1.5 assists. I don't care who he played with, a guy who puts up that kind of lopsided ratio cannot, ever, be lauded for his "playmaking."

As for him having no one but Rip to play with ... does the name Michael Jordan ring a bell?

Posted by: kalorama | September 22, 2008 3:56 PM

Above the box where I write this, there are rules established for the posting of ideas, here. It says very clearly that comments which include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be revomved from the site. From my time enjoying this Wizard's Insider blog, DCman88 has been a poison, a cancer to the enjoyment of many readers. He feeds off negativity and seems to relish in dragging others down into senseless, aimless, resolution-less bickering. Maybe 1 out of 100 of his posts have something positive to say. Mostly they are highly insulting to the players who currently on on roster for the Wizards and especially to other posters. Many people stop reading and posting because of his negative influence, and I think there should be a monitor for this blog to remove, as stated in the rules above, incendiary remarks posted by readers. Please post a response to this and hopefully things can change in the small, Wizard's oasis!

Posted by: Negativity hater | September 22, 2008 3:58 PM

Health being equal I would take Baron Davis over Gil for running the offense. I believe he also singed for about 40 mil less than Gil, which would have made some other significant moves feasible this off-season.

I have always preferred bigger point guards (still rare) because of better court visibility, like a bigger quarterback seeing over a defensive line. Also like the point to have pass first mentality.

I don't get the sense EG was allowed to explore any potential scenarios. If he did, I doubt Pollin entertained them. His mind was set. Much like when he stood behind Wes Unseld as head coach year after year though it was clear this team was going nowhere under him. Painful for the fan base, great if you are part of his Bullets/Wizards family.

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | September 22, 2008 5:31 PM

"Above the box where I write this, there are rules established for the posting of ideas, here. It says very clearly that comments which include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be revomved from the site. From my time enjoying this Wizard's Insider blog, DCman88 has been a poison, a cancer to the enjoyment of many readers. He feeds off negativity and seems to relish in dragging others down into senseless, aimless, resolution-less bickering. Maybe 1 out of 100 of his posts have something positive to say. Mostly they are highly insulting to the players who currently on on roster for the Wizards and especially to other posters. Many people stop reading and posting because of his negative influence, and I think there should be a monitor for this blog to remove, as stated in the rules above, incendiary remarks posted by readers. Please post a response to this and hopefully things can change in the small, Wizard's oasis!

Posted by: Negativity hater | September 22, 2008 3:58 PM "

LMFAO!

Want some cheese with that whine?

Posted by: DC Man88 | September 22, 2008 6:27 PM

gee, i wonder if mr dixon reads these posts...if he did i bet he's getting a good chuckle at the sheer volume. but more than likely he's wither practicing or just enjoying himself, as opposed to us fools who have nothing better to do than bicker about his skills (or lack thereof).

Posted by: Ben | September 22, 2008 9:12 PM

Sign Dixon

Posted by: Josh | September 22, 2008 9:49 PM

ive never seen a more obnoxious, annoying fan than this cbell clown. stop telling everyone else you're the best fan and trying to bring back courtney alexander, who clearly is nowhere near deshawn in skill, just look at the numbers last year. i wouldnt be suprised if uve never even picked up the basketball but were all supposed to care what you think because you've been u wizards fan since they were the bullets? come on. dcman keep it real

Posted by: shut up cbell | September 22, 2008 11:02 PM

negativity hater swallows

Posted by: shut up cbell | September 22, 2008 11:05 PM

I feel that Juan should have been here from the start. Since he left look at what we've done in the playoffs. 1st round exit after 1st round exit. He is a quick combo guard who struggles with post defense aside from Joe Johnson what two guard post up in the eastern conference playoffs?

As a matter of fact Gil struggles on d every game, hurt or not. Last year we struggled to score in big games when gil was out (games 5 and 6 mainly) so why wouldnt you want to add a proven winner to a team that cant get out the first round.

He provides ball pressure on the point something that AD nor GA were able to do and in the playoffs the is very key just look at Fisher and Rondo they make timely shots and pressure the point two things Juan does well. H e is a Legit threat on offense and capable on defense.The wizards did have success against ClE with zone defense so you know that he aint the only one who struggles on that end ... caron, deshawn and crew.

Bring Juan Dixon back and play him 20 min every game and I know we will crack 55+ wins this season and play in the second round.

Posted by: Mike | September 23, 2008 10:28 AM

ive never seen a more obnoxious, annoying fan than this cbell clown. stop telling everyone else you're the best fan and trying to bring back courtney alexander, who clearly is nowhere near deshawn in skill, just look at the numbers last year. i wouldnt be suprised if uve never even picked up the basketball but were all supposed to care what you think because you've been u wizards fan since they were the bullets? come on. dcman keep it real

Posted by: shut up cbell | September 22, 2008 11:02 PM


Never once did I say I was the best fan. I said I was loyal. And yes, I do despise bandwagoners. If you're gonna chastise someone, at least read the whole post and not just one sentence before you make your judgment. BTW, F*** YOU!

Posted by: C.Bell | September 23, 2008 1:23 PM

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