Disappointing Debut

How deflating was that opening night loss? Was it a sign of things to come or just one blip in a long season?

At least there are two intriguing games tonight on TNT that could take your minds off of the Wizards' clunker: Rockets vs. Mavericks at 7 and Hornets vs. Suns at 10:30.

The Wizards play again on Saturday. What do you think they should work on between now and then to prepare for the Pistons in Auburn Hills?

By Alexa Steele |  October 30, 2008; 9:16 AM ET
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I think it is gonna be like this for the rest of the season.
Gilbert & Brendan stay home and get healthy. No reason to come back for this.

Posted by: VBFan | October 30, 2008 9:22 AM

I think it is gonna be like this for the rest of the season.
Gilbert & Brendan stay home and get healthy. No reason to come back for this.

Posted by: VBFan | October 30, 2008 9:22 AM

Concentrate on making buckets son.

Posted by: truthaboutit | October 30, 2008 9:27 AM

I held off during the preseason, as it was just that, the preseason. but Andray is terrible. Awful awful awful shot selection, defense not nearly as good as it should be. What a virus

Posted by: Wizerds | October 30, 2008 9:33 AM

Defense. What else should be the concern?

The points will come. It was just the first game of 82. But if they aren't committed to staying in front of the opponent, what good is discussion on anything else?

Posted by: StetSportsBlog | October 30, 2008 9:45 AM

Did Les BouleS lose 5 in a row to start last season?

Four more to go.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 9:49 AM

I was at the game last night and unfortunately it seemed as if I was watching two bad teams play each other. The Nets looked worse than the Wizards with their turnovers and poor shooting which made me even more frustrated when the Wiz couldn't capitalize and pull away from them. Very disappointing start. McGee looked nervous and didn't play all that well but did look promising. I am much more comfortable with him as our first round pick after pre-season and last night.

Posted by: RudysWay | October 30, 2008 9:49 AM

Did Les BouleS lose 5 in a row to start last season?

Four more to go.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 9:52 AM

Did Les BouleS lose 5 in a row to start last season?

Four more to go.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 9:55 AM

The Nets are a terrible team and they just beat us at home for our home opener. The Nets are only projected to get 28 wins on the season by Vegas.

The Wizards are a terrible team. They have zero inside scoring. It could be a very long season.

Posted by: dominic10464 | October 30, 2008 9:55 AM

we can't even beat the nets! i mean it the first game of the season and we hv our same guys for like wat 4 years now and that is a continualty and we cant even beat the nets who almost change the entire roster!...i dont actually have much fun lke i usually do in the past on the opening night, dis team seems boring and dull...and we just average at best and might not even reach .500

Posted by: forbid | October 30, 2008 9:57 AM

EJ-worst coach ever what kind of rotation is that....how do you have mcghee, dee brown, blatche and all the reserves in the game in the 4th qtr when we are losing and only 6 or 7 minutes to go. He does this every year...plays close games and tosses his starters in at the very end when all momentum is lost and were losing and says go pull one out. It might have worked the past few years but that won't continue to work. Also I know etan thomas probably isn't in game shape just yet but he had 10 and 8 in 19 minutes he obviously could have played more. Really think EJ is clueless and gilby owns him can't wait til he get fired at the end of the year.

Posted by: beas13 | October 30, 2008 10:02 AM

"The Wizards play again on Saturday. What do you think they should work on between now and then to prepare for the Pistons in Auburn Hills?"

They should work on getting a new PG, a new 4, and maybe a new coach.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 10:13 AM

"The Wizards play again on Saturday. What do you think they should work on between now and then to prepare for the Pistons in Auburn Hills?"

They should work on getting a new PG, a new 4, and maybe a new coach.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 10:13 AM

"The Wizards play again on Saturday. What do you think they should work on between now and then to prepare for the Pistons in Auburn Hills?"

They should work on getting a new PG, a new 4, and maybe a new coach.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 10:13 AM

andray showed no signs that he's matured since last year. if anything, last night was a regression in decision making with horrible shot selection, poor positioning and silly fouls. if he really is the x-factor this season, wiz fans are certainly in for a long and lonely one.

Posted by: thickman22 | October 30, 2008 10:33 AM

No inside scoring. Too many 3 pointers and fade away jumpers. And bad perimeter defense. Same old, same old.

Oh by the way, the guy that we passed up last draft (D ARthur) had a huge game last night for the Memphis.

Posted by: Dave381 | October 30, 2008 10:34 AM

Yo IVAN Tell Antawn to STOP SHOOTING THREES. NO POWER FORWARD SHOOTS 8 3s a game. He has to play down low if they want to win. NO more of this weaving, dribble hand-offs above the 3 point line. Please. WHY DOES HE THINK he's a guard. FOR REAL. TELL HIM.

Posted by: mepalmeryoshi | October 30, 2008 10:35 AM

Remember they lost their first five games last year and look how last season turned out: playoff team even without Arenas most of the year.

Their main problem last night was they did not get the scoring they usually get from AJ and CB.

Posted by: cannontl | October 30, 2008 10:40 AM

"Remember they lost their first five games last year and look how last season turned out: playoff team even without Arenas most of the year.

Their main problem last night was they did not get the scoring they usually get from AJ and CB.

Posted by: cannontl | October 30, 2008 10:40 AM "

This season, they don't have a shot blocking presence at the 5, nor do they have a 5 who can bail out/take on the toughest opponent at 4/5 on defense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 10:51 AM

"Remember they lost their first five games last year and look how last season turned out: playoff team even without Arenas most of the year.

Their main problem last night was they did not get the scoring they usually get from AJ and CB.

Posted by: cannontl | October 30, 2008 10:40 AM "

This season, they don't have a shot blocking presence at the 5, nor do they have a 5 who can bail out/take on the toughest opponent at 4/5 on defense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 10:51 AM

"Remember they lost their first five games last year and look how last season turned out: playoff team even without Arenas most of the year.

Their main problem last night was they did not get the scoring they usually get from AJ and CB.

Posted by: cannontl | October 30, 2008 10:40 AM "

This season, they don't have a shot blocking presence at the 5, nor do they have a 5 who can bail out/take on the toughest opponent at 4/5 on defense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 10:51 AM

"Remember they lost their first five games last year and look how last season turned out: playoff team even without Arenas most of the year.

Their main problem last night was they did not get the scoring they usually get from AJ and CB.

Posted by: cannontl | October 30, 2008 10:40 AM "

This season, they don't have a shot blocking presence at the 5, nor do they have a 5 who can bail out/take on the toughest opponent at 4/5 on defense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 10:51 AM

On defense, same old same old: closing out on shooters, rotating on pick-and-rolls, and containing the perimeter. And they especially need help containing the perimeter, without Brendan back there to bail you out (although McGee's long arms can cover a multitude of defensive lapses). Antawn's never been a great perimeter defender, and AD has become an outright defensive liability. He simply couldn't guard Devin Harris. Juan Dixon's never been a defensive specialist, but he came in and did a much better job of containing Harris (until Frank sat him down).

On offense, the team can't just settle for jump shots. They need crisper ball movement leading to more entry passes, or they need dribble penetration. That means you, Nick Young. Cut the stop-fade-and-pop junk and take that ball to the hoop like Antonio does it. But Nick wasn't alone: Antawn and Caron were settling, too, and DS has become basically a catch-and-shoot guy who isn't that great of a catch-and-shoot guy. Too many guys playing soft out there.

Posted by: Prazak | October 30, 2008 10:58 AM

As someone else noted, that path to the hoop was a yellow brick road with Etan in there. If we think last year's interior defense was bad, look out!
I kinda disagree with everyone that says AJ needs to stop shooting threes. Before Gil got here, we would routinely get outshot from the 3 point range and it was one of the reasons we'd lose. Every other stat would be close or we'd be ahead but the 3 point disparity would always kill us. That plus the ft shooting disparity. Well we got enough foul shots last night but didn't make enough of them.
I still think that those two things are going to be our downfall offensively. Getting one 3 point attempt out of our sf is simply not enough to stretch a defense. It's almost analogous to NFL defenses stacking the box when teams refuse to pass. If we aren't getting 3 point attempts, teams clog the lanes. This makes it harder to drive (draw fouls) and completely negates our already weak interior offense. Granted, AJ took a bunch last night. He just happened to be off. I think we HAVE to continue to shoot them. Who knows? Maybe if AJ's defender had been coming out to make sure he wouldn't shoot, CB would have had more room to operate. It's all about spacing and making teams play you honest.

Posted by: original_mark | October 30, 2008 11:08 AM

Kudos to Etan for the rebounding. 8 in 19 minutes is bordering on beastly. I saw a bunch that he actually scrapped to get. Nice.

Posted by: original_mark | October 30, 2008 11:16 AM

Its going to be a long long year for the washington wizards.....Start looking at lottery picks!!!

Posted by: beas13 | October 30, 2008 11:19 AM

EJ-worst coach ever what kind of rotation is that....how do you have mcghee, dee brown, blatche and all the reserves in the game in the 4th qtr when we are losing and only 6 or 7 minutes to go. He does this every year...plays close games and tosses his starters in at the very end when all momentum is lost and were losing and says go pull one out. It might have worked the past few years but that won't continue to work. Also I know etan thomas probably isn't in game shape just yet but he had 10 and 8 in 19 minutes he obviously could have played more. Really think EJ is clueless and gilby owns him can't wait til he get fired at the end of the year. Hopefully EG goes with him.

Posted by: beas13 | October 30, 2008 11:21 AM

Also I do like Javale mcghee....actually one of the few draft picks I don't want to kill EG for but like I said then....we need help now. Javale is at least 2 years away

The 2 guys that we passed on that could have helped now(chalmers and Arthur) tore it up last night. Chalmers almost had a triple double and arthur had 11 and 15 against the rockets.

Posted by: beas13 | October 30, 2008 11:25 AM

"As someone else noted, that path to the hoop was a yellow brick road with Etan in there.

(A) Etan played only 19 minutes. The Nets were scoring at will the entire game. Singling out Etan and Etan alone for the interior defensive is nonsense. Predictable nonsense, but nonsense nonetheless. (B) The Nets aren't exactly a potent inside team. They scored most of their points on jumpshots and a lot in transition, neither of which Etan had anything to do with. Did Thomas play a great defensive game? Not really. But no one on the team did. But of course that won't stop the Haywood manlove club from taking advantage of every excuse to scapegoat Thomas and pump up their boy.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 11:32 AM

So let me get this straight ...

All last season (and the one before that and the one before that) people pissed and whined incessantly about Jordan not playing the bench enough and not developing the young guys, even if it should cost them a game or two. Now, after the first game of the season, someone is complaining about Jordan playing the bench too much because it may have cost them a game?

Unbelievable.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 11:39 AM

1. Shot selection -- too many jumpers. Of course, when you have no inside game and no dribble penetration all you are left with is contested jumpers. And those didn't fall in the 4th last night.

2. Perimeter defense -- how many times did Devin Harris flat out beat AD off the dribble? And without a shotblocker (sorry the Poet isn't a shot blocker) it was an easy hoop.

3. Figure out a rotation -- Dixon played in the 1st half but not in the 2nd. Dee Brown played in the 2nd half and seemed to give the offense some life but didn't play in the 1st half. McGee got lots of burn in the 2nd half none in the 1st. Find a 2nd unit and use it allow them to build some identity. When Blatche, Young and Brown were on the floor, it seemed like the Wiz could run and create some easy baskets. Make that a 2nd unit and play uptempo.

Posted by: traderkirk | October 30, 2008 11:50 AM

Oh yeah, not to rub it in, but as I said before, this is a jump shooting team with no low post presence. When this team can't hit J's, it's almost a guaranteed loss.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 11:50 AM

Oh yeah, not to rub it in, but as I said before, this is a jump shooting team with no low post presence. When this team can't hit J's, it's almost a guaranteed loss.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 11:50 AM

re: Haywood manlove club

From Ivan and the co-captain's mouth, on the importance of BTH:

The Wizards implemented assistant Randy Ayers's new defensive system last season and it resulted in some drastic improvements. But despite the relative continuity of the roster (except that BTH is now out), Jordan said there has been little carryover. That has resulted in blown assignments, communication breakdowns and easy scoring opportunities for opponents. In the first quarter of their two losses against New Orleans in Europe, the Wizards surrendered a combined 68 points.

"We know who the culprits are -- the starters. That's no secret," Jordan said. "I thought it was my responsibility that they commit themselves to defense and we haven't done that thus far. We have to concentrate better and be more committed and more sincere about the defensive effort. Not only the effort, but the execution of it."

Jamison said the Wizards are struggling while trying to find a replacement for center Brendan Haywood, who could miss the entire the season following surgery on his right wrist. His replacements have been Etan Thomas, a veteran who is still working himself back after missing all of last season with a heart ailment; Andray Blatche, who leads the team in scoring this preseason but has baffled the team with his inconsistency; and JaVale McGee, a rookie who is raw athletically and still trying to grasp the team's plays. Aside from providing a defensive presence, Haywood was also a vocal leader on that end of the floor.

"We got accustomed to Brendan being out there and talking. I got accustomed to him telling me where to be at," Jamison said. "That's a luxury that we don't have and that I think we definitely need to get situated quickly, as far as which big is going to start for us, which big is going to play significant minutes for us."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002849.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 12:03 PM

re: Haywood manlove club

From Ivan and the co-captain's mouth, on the importance of BTH:

The Wizards implemented assistant Randy Ayers's new defensive system last season and it resulted in some drastic improvements. But despite the relative continuity of the roster (except that BTH is now out), Jordan said there has been little carryover. That has resulted in blown assignments, communication breakdowns and easy scoring opportunities for opponents. In the first quarter of their two losses against New Orleans in Europe, the Wizards surrendered a combined 68 points.

"We know who the culprits are -- the starters. That's no secret," Jordan said. "I thought it was my responsibility that they commit themselves to defense and we haven't done that thus far. We have to concentrate better and be more committed and more sincere about the defensive effort. Not only the effort, but the execution of it."

Jamison said the Wizards are struggling while trying to find a replacement for center Brendan Haywood, who could miss the entire the season following surgery on his right wrist. His replacements have been Etan Thomas, a veteran who is still working himself back after missing all of last season with a heart ailment; Andray Blatche, who leads the team in scoring this preseason but has baffled the team with his inconsistency; and JaVale McGee, a rookie who is raw athletically and still trying to grasp the team's plays. Aside from providing a defensive presence, Haywood was also a vocal leader on that end of the floor.

"We got accustomed to Brendan being out there and talking. I got accustomed to him telling me where to be at," Jamison said. "That's a luxury that we don't have and that I think we definitely need to get situated quickly, as far as which big is going to start for us, which big is going to play significant minutes for us."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002849.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 12:05 PM

re: Haywood manlove club

From Ivan and the co-captain's mouth, on the importance of BTH:

The Wizards implemented assistant Randy Ayers's new defensive system last season and it resulted in some drastic improvements. But despite the relative continuity of the roster (except that BTH is now out), Jordan said there has been little carryover. That has resulted in blown assignments, communication breakdowns and easy scoring opportunities for opponents. In the first quarter of their two losses against New Orleans in Europe, the Wizards surrendered a combined 68 points.

"We know who the culprits are -- the starters. That's no secret," Jordan said. "I thought it was my responsibility that they commit themselves to defense and we haven't done that thus far. We have to concentrate better and be more committed and more sincere about the defensive effort. Not only the effort, but the execution of it."

Jamison said the Wizards are struggling while trying to find a replacement for center Brendan Haywood, who could miss the entire the season following surgery on his right wrist. His replacements have been Etan Thomas, a veteran who is still working himself back after missing all of last season with a heart ailment; Andray Blatche, who leads the team in scoring this preseason but has baffled the team with his inconsistency; and JaVale McGee, a rookie who is raw athletically and still trying to grasp the team's plays. Aside from providing a defensive presence, Haywood was also a vocal leader on that end of the floor.

"We got accustomed to Brendan being out there and talking. I got accustomed to him telling me where to be at," Jamison said. "That's a luxury that we don't have and that I think we definitely need to get situated quickly, as far as which big is going to start for us, which big is going to play significant minutes for us."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002849.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 12:05 PM

re: Haywood manlove club

From Ivan and the co-captain's mouth, on the importance of BTH:

The Wizards implemented assistant Randy Ayers's new defensive system last season and it resulted in some drastic improvements. But despite the relative continuity of the roster (except that BTH is now out), Jordan said there has been little carryover. That has resulted in blown assignments, communication breakdowns and easy scoring opportunities for opponents. In the first quarter of their two losses against New Orleans in Europe, the Wizards surrendered a combined 68 points.

"We know who the culprits are -- the starters. That's no secret," Jordan said. "I thought it was my responsibility that they commit themselves to defense and we haven't done that thus far. We have to concentrate better and be more committed and more sincere about the defensive effort. Not only the effort, but the execution of it."

Jamison said the Wizards are struggling while trying to find a replacement for center Brendan Haywood, who could miss the entire the season following surgery on his right wrist. His replacements have been Etan Thomas, a veteran who is still working himself back after missing all of last season with a heart ailment; Andray Blatche, who leads the team in scoring this preseason but has baffled the team with his inconsistency; and JaVale McGee, a rookie who is raw athletically and still trying to grasp the team's plays. Aside from providing a defensive presence, Haywood was also a vocal leader on that end of the floor.

"We got accustomed to Brendan being out there and talking. I got accustomed to him telling me where to be at," Jamison said. "That's a luxury that we don't have and that I think we definitely need to get situated quickly, as far as which big is going to start for us, which big is going to play significant minutes for us."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002849.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 12:06 PM

re: Haywood manlove club

From Ivan and the co-captain's mouth, on the importance of BTH:

The Wizards implemented assistant Randy Ayers's new defensive system last season and it resulted in some drastic improvements. But despite the relative continuity of the roster (except that BTH is now out), Jordan said there has been little carryover. That has resulted in blown assignments, communication breakdowns and easy scoring opportunities for opponents. In the first quarter of their two losses against New Orleans in Europe, the Wizards surrendered a combined 68 points.

"We know who the culprits are -- the starters. That's no secret," Jordan said. "I thought it was my responsibility that they commit themselves to defense and we haven't done that thus far. We have to concentrate better and be more committed and more sincere about the defensive effort. Not only the effort, but the execution of it."

Jamison said the Wizards are struggling while trying to find a replacement for center Brendan Haywood, who could miss the entire the season following surgery on his right wrist. His replacements have been Etan Thomas, a veteran who is still working himself back after missing all of last season with a heart ailment; Andray Blatche, who leads the team in scoring this preseason but has baffled the team with his inconsistency; and JaVale McGee, a rookie who is raw athletically and still trying to grasp the team's plays. Aside from providing a defensive presence, Haywood was also a vocal leader on that end of the floor.

"We got accustomed to Brendan being out there and talking. I got accustomed to him telling me where to be at," Jamison said. "That's a luxury that we don't have and that I think we definitely need to get situated quickly, as far as which big is going to start for us, which big is going to play significant minutes for us."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002849.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 12:06 PM

So let me get this straight ...

All last season (and the one before that and the one before that) people pissed and whined incessantly about Jordan not playing the bench enough and not developing the young guys, even if it should cost them a game or two. Now, after the first game of the season, someone is complaining about Jordan playing the bench too much because it may have cost them a game?

Unbelievable.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 11:39 AM

Not be brother. I loved EJ's rotations yesterday and I said so right after the game. The key to this lost is CB and AJ did not bring it in the 4th quarter. I did not have a problem at all with the five he had out there at the beginning and the middle of the 4th quarter.

As far as the "yellow brick road" thing I agree. Along with what DCMan just posted, Ronnie Thomson even showed a play where the Nets made dribble penetration right into the paint and was not contested. Ronnie made the point to say if Haywood was there the shot would had least been altered just because of Haywood's length.

I said this last week and I am going to say it again, now that Haywood is out people who were not feeling his game will now see how valuable he is to the team.

People used to crack on him because he had low board numbers and AJ always had double digit boards. Well guess what, part of the reason AJ was getting all of those boards was because of Haywood. Haywood cleared so much space it made it easier for AJ to get rebounds. Watch AJ's rebound #'s (3 this past game) this year drop without Haywood being there.

Haywood was a space eater, had a improving low post game which demanded a "little" bit of attention, a very good offensive rebounder and he ran the defense on the floor. The Wiz have learned how to play without Gilbert, but now they have to learn how to play without Haywood and that might take a minute........

Posted by: BulletsFever | October 30, 2008 12:34 PM

So let me get this straight ...

All last season (and the one before that and the one before that) people pissed and whined incessantly about Jordan not playing the bench enough and not developing the young guys, even if it should cost them a game or two. Now, after the first game of the season, someone is complaining about Jordan playing the bench too much because it may have cost them a game?

Unbelievable.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 11:39 AM

Not be brother. I loved EJ's rotations yesterday and I said so right after the game. The key to this lost is CB and AJ did not bring it in the 4th quarter. I did not have a problem at all with the five he had out there at the beginning and the middle of the 4th quarter.

As far as the "yellow brick road" thing I agree. Along with what DCMan just posted, Ronnie Thomson even showed a play where the Nets made dribble penetration right into the paint and was not contested. Ronnie made the point to say if Haywood was there the shot would had least been altered just because of Haywood's length.

I said this last week and I am going to say it again, now that Haywood is out people who were not feeling his game will now see how valuable he is to the team.

People used to crack on him because he had low board numbers and AJ always had double digit boards. Well guess what, part of the reason AJ was getting all of those boards was because of Haywood. Haywood cleared so much space it made it easier for AJ to get rebounds. Watch AJ's rebound #'s (3 this past game) this year drop without Haywood being there.

Haywood was a space eater, had a improving low post game which demanded a "little" bit of attention, a very good offensive rebounder and he ran the defense on the floor. The Wiz have learned how to play without Gilbert, but now they have to learn how to play without Haywood and that might take a minute........

Posted by: BulletsFever | October 30, 2008 12:34 PM

This team is done! Maybe they can turn it around next year, or the year after that!?? They may win 30 games this year, if we're lucky.

Posted by: CJS1 | October 30, 2008 12:34 PM

This team is done! Maybe they can turn it around next year, or the year after that!?? They may win 30 games this year, if we're lucky.

Posted by: CJS1 | October 30, 2008 12:34 PM

Hey Ivan or Alexa. It is taking a huge amount of time after you hit the submit button for your post to go through. That might be the reason you see multiple posts because I hit my two to three times because the submit process to go through.

Could you please report this to your IT people to let them know it has been a problem since yesterday. Thanks....

Posted by: BulletsFever | October 30, 2008 12:41 PM

Heck, Les BouleS might get to a point where they might have to bring BTH early if they want to win.

BTH didn't injure his wheels, and can block shots even with a cast on his hands...

It'll be scary to see what Les BouleS will do when they play the Cavs or the Celtics. BTH usually keeps KG in check, and Big Z honest.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 12:41 PM

Heck, Les BouleS might get to a point where they might have to bring BTH early if they want to win.

BTH didn't injure his wheels, and can block shots even with a cast on his hands...

It'll be scary to see what Les BouleS will do when they play the Cavs or the Celtics. BTH usually keeps KG in check, and Big Z honest.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 12:42 PM

Hey Ivan or Alexa. It is taking a huge amount of time after you hit the submit button for your post to go through. That might be the reason you see multiple posts because I hit my submit button two to three times before it went through.

Could you please report this to your IT people to let them know it has been a problem since yesterday. Thanks....

Posted by: BulletsFever | October 30, 2008 12:44 PM

Kallie,

I posted on the other story that I liked the rotations and EJ's comments after the game, except that Dee Brown doesn't seem ready for prime time and that we need three scorers on the floor at all times.

As someone else noted, the issue with AB isn't what EJ and Ivan have been saying, but lack of basketball sense. He came out hustling last night, but showed poor on-court decisions. I'd give him plenty of minutes, plenty of coaching and lots of encouragement. They don't have much else to fall back on.

Posted by: Izman | October 30, 2008 1:07 PM

This was not a disappointing loss, for anyone who knows anything about basketball this should have been expected. This organization does not care about winning. They only care about making money any conning the fans into spending their hard earned money on tickets. They resign losers like Jamison who is not a power forward since he will not play defense. Resigning Gilbert (who is still hurt) is a joke for that amount of money since he will not pass the ball but also refuses to play defense, and is he supposed to be a point guard? They extend EJ’s contract when the only thing he has shown us is that he can lose in the first round. People get use to this and keep wasting your money if you want by going to the games, until the old man dies this is what you are going to have to live with as Wizard fans.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 30, 2008 1:11 PM

Make more shots, obviously. Our shooting was abysmal.

We need Jamison to crash the boards and be the warrior that he was last year.

3 boards in 38 minutes? Really?

Also, we need to get more production from the bench as well so Jordan doesn't have to keep playing Butler 40+ every game. We're not gonna last long if he keeps that up.

Posted by: Wittan | October 30, 2008 1:24 PM

Read the entire comment, pause, think about it and THEN respond. No one said that Etan was responsible for the entire lack of interior defense. You seemed to have missed this part of my sentence...

"with Etan in there."

Picking phrases out of context is nonsense. Predictable nonsense but still nonsense. You must work for the McCain campaign.

For the 19 minutes that I watched out of Etan, he didn't offer any resistance. Someone else was to blame for the rest of the time but my comment was stricty about the time that Etan was in the galme.

Posted by: original_mark | October 30, 2008 1:29 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the wiz bounce back against the Pistons just because they seem to play the better teams tough and be lax on the lesser teams (like NJ).

But it's hard to dismiss the lack of Haywood in the middle - they've got to find a way to overcome that.

Lastly, free throw shooting. Caron led the league (or close to it last year). The amount of free throws he missed is uncharacteristic. That alone was almost the difference in the loss last night.

Posted by: boblas | October 30, 2008 1:40 PM

So no one is going to comment on the fact that Caron is not a franchise player?

Posted by: OwlWiz | October 30, 2008 2:04 PM

"So no one is going to comment on the fact that Caron is not a franchise player?

Posted by: OwlWiz | October 30, 2008 2:04 PM "

Is he getting paid to be the franchise player?

That issue was settled this summer even though Gilby isn't a franchise player either.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 2:14 PM

"So no one is going to comment on the fact that Caron is not a franchise player?

Posted by: OwlWiz | October 30, 2008 2:04 PM "

Is he getting paid to be the franchise player?

That issue was settled this summer even though Gilby isn't a franchise player either.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 30, 2008 2:15 PM

BulletsFever made a key point about the impact of BTH. He always guarded the TOUGHER of the 4 or 5 men, including Garnett on Boston, plus gave us a deterrent to guys taking it easy to the hoop by altering or blocking shots. His presence allowed AJ to have any easier defensive assignment plus to be in position to get more rebounds on both ends. BTH also was good for at least 2-3 put backs a game because of his size.

Not to knock ET, but he's a backup center and BTH is a legit starter. I think you can probably subtract 6-8 wins this year just based on not having him as our starting center. Couple that with the fact that AD has slowed down to the point of being a defensive liability and you have a recipe for disaster.

EJ won't say it, but the loss of Mason also really hurts. He was the 2nd best defender in the backcourt and our only pure shooter with Agent Zero out. I cringed last night every time the ball was in NY's hands as he takes nothing but off balance fade away jumpers. Mason bailed the Wizards out at least 4-5 games last year based on Eddie's own estimate. Who is to blame for not re-signing him? A proactive GM would have offered him a 3-year deal to stay even if it meant going a little over the cap. AD will be traded after this year and Mason would have been able to handle the backup PG slot like he did last year.

You add together the losses of BTH and Mason coupled with no real improvement from the young guys and it's not surprising that there is little margin for error even against a supposedly weak team like NJ. I only see games against NY, Milwaukee, Miami, and Golden State as potential wins this month regardless of how much production we get from CB3 and AJ.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 30, 2008 2:46 PM

"For the 19 minutes that I watched out of Etan, he didn't offer any resistance. Someone else was to blame for the rest of the time but my comment was stricty about the time that Etan was in the galme."

Exactly my point. You ONLY commented on the time Etan was in the game.

Dance all the steps you want mark, what you said amounted to singling Etan out on his supposed defensive failure while making no mention of the fact that the entire team broke down defensively. You called one guy (predictably, the guy you love to dump on) out by name while, predictably, failing to spread any blame to the other guys who, by virtue of the fact that they were the ones actually guarding the opposing players who scored the vast majority of the points, much more to blame than Etan. Is it Etan's fault that Carter scored 21, or Hayes scored 14, or Yi scored 17? No because (A) he wasn't guarding those guys and (B) most of their points were scored on jumpers, not drives to the hoop, which means Thomas had no defensive role on those shots. The guys Thomas actually guarded (Lopez and Boone) scored a total of 12 points between them, 2 more than Thomas scored himself, and grabbed a total 11 rebounds to Thomas 8.

Jamison got lit up lit a Christmas tree by Yi, yet, shockingly, no mention of him by name for his defensive failures. Not only that, but you went out of your way to defend his woeful outside shooting when he himself admitted that he took too many jumpshots.

"I took too many jumpers," Jamison said. "You know me, I love to post up a little bit more. Out of the eight I took, probably three of them were bad. A couple of them felt pretty good and I felt they should've gone in but if they're not going in, those are bad shots for me, so we have to figure out a way to get me down in the post and get some better looks. Offensively, I just didn't play very well."

Funny how that works.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 3:51 PM

In other words:

Watch the ENTIRE GAME, pause, think about it, and THEN comment/criticize.

Of course, that would require an open mind and an objective perspective. And we all know that ship left the harbor long ago.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 3:53 PM

EDIT:

That should read: "Jamison got lit up like a Christmas tree by Yi, yet, shockingly, no mention of him by name for his defensive failures."

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 4:00 PM

Kal,
Probably because everyone is painfully aware AJ is going to get lit up night in/night out.

I believe everyone recognized the improvement in defense for this team last year and Brendan was no small part of that. This is the first game without BH and I think it is pretty natural to make observations about the impact of his loss. I think if we had a decent defender at the 4 for a significant period and then brought AJ in to replace that person there would be a great deal of discussion about the difference.

From what I have seen Etan has received generally favorable comments for his efforts. No question the team as a whole did not deliver last night.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | October 30, 2008 4:41 PM

That argument would hold sway if the Wizards had been beaten by a team that got most of their production inside, either on post up moves or drives to the hoops. The Nets are, and always have been, a jumpshooting team. Their drives to the hoop were few and had marginal impact on the outcome of the game. Haywood's loss was no real impact on this game because the Nets didn't beat the Wizards by taking advantage of the interior. Dikembe Mutombo in his prime could have been patrolling the middle, and it wouldn't had done much to stop Yi, Carter, and Hayes from canning all of those jumpshots. Nor would it have done much to improve Jamison or Butler's or Stevenson's woeful shooting percentages. But because certain people have an agenda that's more about the performance of their favorite players rather than than the success of the team, they waste no time taking advantage of an opportunity to pounce, even if it's a manufactured one.

Thomas easily had the best, most efficient game (for the minutes he played) of any of the starters.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 30, 2008 4:58 PM

IF YOU SAW MY COMMENTS AFTER LAST NIGHTS GAME YOU MIGHT THINK I HAVE GIVEN UP AFTER ONE GAME. WELL I HAVE. HAVE YOU SEEN "STAR" PLAYERS MISS SO OFTEN WHILE PLAY A LOUSY TEAM AT HOME WHERE BASKETS SEEM FRIENDLIER. LATER I SAW PHOENIX VS SAN AN AND IT SEEMED LIKE A DIFFERENT LEAGUE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT GUYS WERE DRIVING TO THE BASKET AND GETTING KNOCKED AROUND BY SHAK BUT WANTED TO WIN. THE WIZ PREFER TO STAND BACK AND WATCH THE DIRTY WORK. REMEMBER HOW UPSET B JAMES BECAME AFTER SEVERAL COLLISIONS WITH BRENDON DURING THE PLAY OFFS.THERE ARE NO SAVIORS ON THE BENCH. I FEEL SORRY FOR ABE.

Posted by: kcandlc | October 30, 2008 6:46 PM

I agree, most of the damage was done from the perimeter but there was a good deal of dribble penetration as well. In most of those cases whatever big was in the game got glued to the free throw line and never did get back to challenge.

That Yi Jianlian has the nicest stroke I have seen in a while, too bad our own 7ft perimeter minded import does not bring such efficiency.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | October 30, 2008 9:29 PM

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