Nick Young Targets Friday Return

Nick Young shot a basketball for the first time since the Wizards scrimmaged in Richmond more than two weeks ago. Young had been sidelined the entire preseason with a sore right knee, which he said yesterday may require surgery in the offseason.

"I'm not trying to do that now. It don't hurt that bad," he said after practice on Sunday. "I just had a lot of fluid in there. [The injury is] not too serious. They said I could get [the surgery] later on, but not now."

Coach Eddie Jordan limited Young's activity in practice, keeping him out of some drills. Jordan added that it was "very encouraging to see him get through practice without any mishaps." Young ruled out returning for Wednesday's game in San Antonio, but said he is optimistic that he will play in the Wizards' final preseason game Friday in Columbus, Ohio, against the Cleveland Cavaliers.

"Friday, for sure," the second-year shooting guard said.

Young said that the injury was just the result of "wear and tear" and not a particular incident. Either way, being away from the game - and watching his teammates struggle for most of this offseason - has been difficult.

"I ain't really been hurt my whole career," said Young, who didn't go on the trip to Europe so that he could stay back to rehab his knee. "I'm going to be all right. I'll be all right."

And with the team averaging just 78.6 points in the first five games of the preseason, Young said. "It looks like they need a little more scoring right there. I fit right in."

By Michael Lee |  October 20, 2008; 7:29 AM ET
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The preseason has been an ugly affair so far. But it seems Eddie has been relying on various combinations while he allows his vets to slowly work themselves into game shape.

It's beginning to remind me of one of ole Norv Turner's "we've got a group of playoff tested veterans and they know how to motivate themselves" approach. That never quite worked out for ole Norv, and it still isn't. The man couldn't motivate the starving to learn how to eat.

But back to the Wizards, We've really yet to figure out who Eddie is really planning to start or what his rotations are going to be. There's been a lot of different combo's out there as he has juggled injuries and given vets nights off.

McGee has flashed real potential, Eddie will have to find a way to win enough games to keep this team in the hunt, while giving the kids enough court time to sort out what he's got on the bench.

Lack of consistant scoring threats has been the biggest problems so far. Butler and Jamison will have to carry much of that load until Eddie can figure out if he can get consistant offense from Young or Blatche.

But other then McGee and some promising play from DerMarr Johnson there hasn't been a lot to "hang your hat on" so far.

Never seen a preseason where I could figure out less about what the team will really look like then this one.

Posted by: GM | October 20, 2008 9:08 AM

And the hits just keep on coming. My feelings on this season just keep getting worse and worse. We may struggle to get to 30 wins...

Posted by: Sam | October 20, 2008 9:44 AM

So what's the over-under on # of days before N. Young is declared out for the season?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 10:11 AM

So Nick Young goes from out 1 to 1 1/2 weeks with a banged knee to not
shooting a basketball for two weeks, needing off-season surgery,
and "maybe" playing in 3 weeks.

I wonder when we would have found out about this if Ivan hadn't asked.

The season hasn't even started and he is talking about off-season
surgery? Doesn't sound like Nick is going to have a productive year.
If the doctors already know he needs surgery, then it will be
bothering him all year.

Posted by: Huh? | October 20, 2008 10:23 AM

Mamma Mia Mamma Mia here we go again.

Posted by: G Diddy | October 20, 2008 10:37 AM

does anyone have any faith that our medical staff has properly diagnosed this injury and that NY will not be doing any long-term damage by trying to play through this "minor" ailment? i know i don't...

Posted by: Peter | October 20, 2008 11:12 AM

This is unbelievable!!! I have never seen a team beset with so much injury. If I were Nick, I would go out to Chicago and rehab with Tim Grover for the first two weeks of the season, that might help him last the year. If he stays and rehabs with this medical staff, he will be out before Christmas.

UN -Freakin- believable

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 11:29 AM

I've never seen a team so snakebitten in my life where did this injury to Nick Young come from he needs surgery? What the Hell!! The medical staff? who are these guys first they can't help Gil and now this.

Posted by: dargregmag@aol.com | October 20, 2008 12:11 PM

"Nick Young's sore right knee may require surgery in the offseason."

Oh, no, he is gonna be hobbled by a bad knee the whole season!

This team is doomed.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 12:27 PM

I too have never seen a team of broken up players. There is something wrong with the whole lot. From ankles,to knees,to wrists,to hips. You name it and somebody on the Wizards team got it. Their preseason stunk and I have not a clue as to how they will be going forward. I guess we will jus have to wait and see. Expect little and hope for a lot. go wiz.........Yeah.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 12:39 PM

Wear and tear on a 23 year old requiring surgury after the season? It's more likely that Tanya Harding clubbed his knee while dancing on ice.

If the report is true, this guy could be an invalid by 30. Something smells in this clubhouse...

Posted by: Izman | October 20, 2008 12:49 PM

If the season is doomed because Nick Young is injured, then the season was doomed from the beginning.

In response to the poster who questioned who is going to start for the Wizards, I think the answer is whatever 5 players are healthy that night.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 1:31 PM

From Lee's article in today's Post:

Before training camp, Jordan said McGee likely wouldn't be part of his rotation. And when Haywood tore a ligament in his right wrist, Jordan still had McGee fourth on the depth chart behind Thomas, Andray Blatche and Darius Songaila.

One name stands out by its absence.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 1:43 PM

"The injury is not too serious. They said I could get [the surgery] later on, but not now."

Please tell me he didn't get this info from the wiz medical staff. Nick, do us all a favor and make an appointment to see Dr. Andrews.

Posted by: C.Bell | October 20, 2008 1:44 PM

One name stands out by its absence.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 1:43 PM


Yeah, but somebody has to back up Jamison.

Posted by: C.Bell | October 20, 2008 1:57 PM

"Yeah, but somebody has to back up Jamison."

Yeah, that would be Songaila and Blatche.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 2:00 PM

Washington, D.C.: Has Tony uttered the phrase "Curse of Les Boules" in private to you yet for this upcoming season?

Michael Wilbon: Oh yes...Yep.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 20, 2008 2:02 PM

"If the season is doomed because Nick Young is injured, then the season was doomed from the beginning."

Of course I do not mean the team is doomed 'because of' NY's injury. It is a cumulative effect. We first lost Arenas, and we thought "maybe we can play like last season until Arenas is back." Then we lost Haywood, and we thought, "well, we still have several big guys around." Now, if Young needs a surgery off-season, that means he will play the whole season less than 100%. Heck, we don't even know if Young playing 100% is enough to provide the scoring punch off the bench, let alone less than 100%!

Lose Arenas, the score is going to be hard to come by. Lose Haywood, now the defense may revert back to prior to last season. Plus a hobbled NY (coupled with the departure of Mason), where is the bench scoring? Folks, these preseason games are the sample of games that we are going to see Wizards in this coming season!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 2:38 PM

Possible Top 3 reasons for the Wizards neverending medical problems:

3. Team physician thinks a ligament is a Halloween candy.
2. Dr. Kevorkian was the number 2 choice behind the current team physician
1. Dr. Seuss never returned Abe's phone call.

Posted by: mark | October 20, 2008 2:40 PM

We need another decider about who's gonna look after our players. The decider we have aint doing the right deciding.

Posted by: mark | October 20, 2008 2:42 PM

It appears McGee may be jumping the learning curve more quickly than expected.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/19/AR2008101901699.html

If he does become the starter and develops into a player over the course of the season, it could well impact Haywood's future with the team. It's not likely they'd shell out big bucks for him to return as a backup, esp. since he hasn't proven to thrive in a role off the bench.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 3:18 PM

I don't imagine Brendan's ego would tolerate being relegated to backup again, this time behind a kid. It'll be interesting to watch develop.

But the missing name that struck me was Pecherov's. I wonder if McGee's flashes of upside and Nick Young's flashes of wear and tear, at the ripe old age of 23 and that grueling workload of 15 mpg, are leading Ernie to keep all three of Dee Brown, Juan Dixon, and Dermarr Johnson, and cut bait on Project Pech.

Posted by: Prazak | October 20, 2008 3:43 PM

"It's not likely they'd shell out big bucks for him to return as a backup"

Absolutely groundless. Wizards have shelled out money for Etan, who only played 47% of his NBA games, mostly as a backup.

In any regards, it is stupid to even speculate at this point. Haywood still has two years of contract left. Even if he misses the whole season, Wizards will at least wait and see if he can return to form before making decision, regardless of how McGee played.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 3:45 PM

Correction, Etan missed 47% of games in his career. He played in a little less than 53% of all possible games.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 3:49 PM

If he does become the starter and develops into a player over the course of the season, it could well impact Haywood's future with the team. It's not likely they'd shell out big bucks for him to return as a backup, esp. since he hasn't proven to thrive in a role off the bench.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 3:18 PM

It's pretty early to speculate on next year's off season moves. But since you brought it up...

If there is little reason to keep Haywood, then would there be a reason to keep Etan Thomas who is $1M/yr more expensive?
For that matter, won't Darius Songaila and Antonio Daniels be prime candidates for trading due their nice contract numbers for teams freeing up salary cap room? Other contracts will be up for renewal as well...

Posted by: Anonymouse | October 20, 2008 3:49 PM

and cut bait on Project Pech.


Posted by: Prazak | October 20, 2008 3:43 PM

will Ernie find a team interested in his remaining $1.4M contract?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 3:59 PM

I didn't say anything about Thomas, did I? In fact I've been saying for more than a year now that he's not likely to be a Wizard come the end of his contract. So really, other than a ham-fisted and doomed attempt at some kind of "gotcha" moment, what's your point in bringing him up?

But since you asked ...

Thomas is more expensive now, but when it comes time for them to get new contracts, Haywood will certainly command a higher price on the open market than Thomas would. And the amount of money he would be looking for would almost certainly be more than any sensible team would intentionally want to spend on a backup C.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 4:00 PM

"Absolutely groundless. Wizards have shelled out money for Etan, who only played 47% of his NBA games, mostly as a backup."

Yeah. See, that's the "grounds" right there. They overpaid for a backup C once, which would likely make them hesitant to make the same mistake twice.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 4:03 PM

"Haywood still has two years of contract left."

Yeah, see that's where the whole "future" part of "it could well impact Haywood's future with the team" comes into play.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 4:06 PM

"I don't imagine Brendan's ego would tolerate being relegated to backup again, this time behind a kid.

See? He gets it.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 4:08 PM

"If he does become the starter and develops into a player over the course of the season, it could well impact Haywood's future with the team. It's not likely they'd shell out big bucks for him to return as a backup, esp. since he hasn't proven to thrive in a role off the bench.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 3:18 PM "

Speculating on BTH's demise as a Wizard player is silly at best.

BTH's got two years left on his contract, and played a large and consistent role in last season's team, nevermind him being a favorite of EG's.

Who's to say McGee won't be the next guy coming up with an injury?

Guys like BTH, who are big, long, and tall with a history of durability while averaging over .500 in FG's and plays defense will always desirable for a team, especially Les BouleS.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 20, 2008 4:30 PM

""will Ernie find a team interested in his remaining $1.4M contract""

You won't know until you try, Anonymous. But when you see teams bite year after year on bigs like Darko Milicic and Kwame Brown, you have to think there is a nearly bottomless market in the NBA for underachieving 7-footers.

Posted by: Prazak | October 20, 2008 4:32 PM

The difference between Pech and those guys is that, while they're all 7 feet, Darko and Brown have physical attributes in addition to height that Pecherov doesn't: strength, athleticism, (relative) quickness. Darko and Kwame can contribute, to a degree, based solely on their physical gifts, even given their skill deficits. The same doesn't hold true for Pecherov

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 4:44 PM

Besides, if the Wizards start shopping him, it sends a signal that they don't want him and might not pick up his option. In which case, why would anyone give up assets for him when they can pick him up off the scrap heap for next to nothing?

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 4:46 PM

karolama,

In the "future," no current Wizards players will still be on the team. They will all be retired at some point.

If you are not talking about the coming offseason move, then as I said, it is stupid and pointless to even speculate at this point.

As for whether or not Wizards will repeat the same mistake tewice, well, the history has proven that they did.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 5:02 PM

And, as I said, I don't arguee with people who are too chickensh*t to take ownership of their words by assigning a name (even a fake one) to what they have to say.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 5:05 PM

don't arguee with people who are too chickensh*t to take ownership of their words by assigning a name (even a fake one) to what they have to say.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 5:05 PM


OWNED

Posted by: prescrunk | October 20, 2008 5:10 PM

Don't sell yourself short, Kalorama. You've proven that you are willing to argue with everyone.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 5:20 PM

Yawn.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 5:25 PM

Sure is good to see Kal and 88 back, now if only the Wizards could get Arenas and Haywood back into their lineup...

Ivan, any word on whether the team will do anything to take note of Nick Weatherspoon's pasing away the other day?

Well, Dan Dickau and Darius Miles have been cut, are we keeping an eye peeled for any last minute upgrades?

Posted by: khrabb | October 20, 2008 5:33 PM

Well, Dan Dickau and Darius Miles have been cut, are we keeping an eye peeled for any last minute upgrades?

Posted by: khrabb | October 20, 2008 5:33 PM

are you serious guy?? do you follow Les Boules? do you even watch basketball?

Posted by: prescrunk | October 20, 2008 5:49 PM

The positive out of BTH's injury is that he didn't hurt his wheels. He can still work on his conditioning when out.

He was never a big time scorer to begin with, or at least never got enough touches to work on that aspect of his game.

When he's back, he can still play D and let his offense come to him, where his offense was mostly dunks and putbacks to begin with.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 20, 2008 6:02 PM

"Absolutely groundless. Wizards have shelled out money for Etan, who only played 47% of his NBA games, mostly as a backup."

Yeah. See, that's the "grounds" right there. They overpaid for a backup C once, which would likely make them hesitant to make the same mistake twice.


Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 4:03 PM

______________

You really believe a Wizards organization that has retained the same medical staff despite its apparent incompetence wouldn't "make the same mistake twice?"

Posted by: TA | October 20, 2008 6:39 PM

No real news here, but if you're a Wiz junkie, read on:

http://hoopshype.com/interviews/jamison2_barrigon.htm

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 20, 2008 9:47 PM

It's worth checking out the link just to see the photo of Jamison standing over Varejo, laid out on the floor holding his face.

Posted by: kalorama | October 20, 2008 11:07 PM

BTH isn't going anywhere and as long as EJ is here, JM will not be starting over a vetaran. EJ's an ex-player and almost always defers to his vets as a result. BTH WILL be starting again next October. While the injury is to his shooting hand, it's not like he was ever allowed to do much more than dunk on putbacks. He'd usually only get a couple plays run for him per game. His value is on the defensive side, so the rehab/comeback should be easy as long as he can still raise his arms.

Posted by: mark | October 21, 2008 7:15 AM

The positive out of BTH's injury is that he didn't hurt his wheels. He can still work on his conditioning when out.

Remember BTH had salad tongs for hands, it's not his wheels i'm worried about, He has workd to improve his ability to catch the ball, hopefully this wrist injury won't set him back.

Posted by: kfraz | October 21, 2008 7:37 AM

Hopefully Haywood will work on his left hand while out.

I think it rather funny that after his years of putting Haywood in the doghouse, this year Eddie Jordan will use Haywood's absence as another excuse for the team's poor performance.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 9:35 AM

"I think it rather funny that after his years of putting Haywood in the doghouse, this year Eddie Jordan will use Haywood's absence as another excuse for the team's poor performance.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 9:35 AM "

On to more important things.

Let's just hope that when/if Obama wins, that he won't use the previous 8 years as an excuse for poor performance.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 9:55 AM

We need a hoops-first president...

Basketball teaches flexibility, opportunism and decision-making skills better than any other team sport, and those are charcteristics we seem to need in a President right about now.

Posted by: khrabb | October 21, 2008 11:23 AM

"And, as I said, I don't arguee with people who are too chickensh*t to take ownership of their words by assigning a name (even a fake one) to what they have to say."

Untrue again, you have responded to my earlier post, so you have just proven yourself lying. Hide behind this ridiculous excuse when you are loosing debate is the most "chickensh*t" act!

I respond to posts by their substances, not names. Quite frankly, "kalorama" means squat (or chickensh*t as you may put it) to me.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 11:24 AM

You guys are all blaming the medical staff. What's going on is the Wiz management is trying to hold back bad news in the interest of selling more tickets.

Posted by: Web | October 21, 2008 11:43 AM

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