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Wizards Release Two

From Ivan Carter at Verizon Center:
The team has released forwards DerMarr Johnson and Linton Johnson. The Wizards now have 15 players under contract, including injured guard Gilbert Arenas and injured center Brendan Haywood.

More details soon.

By Alexa Steele  |  October 21, 2008; 12:17 PM ET
 
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Guess DeShawn is the offensive backup at the 3 - gonna love seeing 3 out of 4 of the following on the floor at the same time: Daniels/Brown/Dixon/Stevenson

Piss poor decision IMO

Posted by: Henchlow | October 21, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Love Juan Dixon but thought DeMarr Johnson fit a need more effectively for this particular team. We'll see.

Posted by: psdfx | October 21, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I was rooting for Dermarr but I guess neither him nor Dixon will help the team that much anyway. Unless Agent Zero comes back and being the allstar he once was and BTH coming back quickly the team should start scouting for lottery prospect.

Posted by: Dave, | October 21, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Kinda sad but this is a business and its always been last hired, first fired. BUt I have a strong feeling that Demarr will be back on a 10 day contract. Pech will get hurt and open up a roster spot. Not wishing injury on Pech, just going off past history. Or somebody will go down which wil open up an opportunity for Demarr.

Posted by: C.Bell | October 21, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"Kinda sad but this is a business and its always been last hired, first fired. BUt I have a strong feeling that Demarr will be back on a 10 day contract. Pech will get hurt and open up a roster spot. Not wishing injury on Pech, just going off past history. Or somebody will go down which wil open up an opportunity for Demarr.

Posted by: C.Bell | October 21, 2008 12:42 PM "

History has shown that even if undermanned and given the possibility of an injury exception to open up a slot, Les BouleS are not guaranteed and not likely to pick up anyone to fill an open slot regardless, even if they are under the lux cap threshold.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

This is the first move of the offseason that I dont agree with. I mean Juan Dixon never played, but you keep him. I draw a reference to the Redskins and the last time a player outplayed someone but got cut, Derrick Frost amd Durant Brooks.

Posted by: VWill | October 21, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Bad decision IMO. But not unexpected...

Posted by: Sam | October 21, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

History has shown that even if undermanned and given the possibility of an injury exception to open up a slot, Les BouleS are not guaranteed and not likely to pick up anyone to fill an open slot regardless, even if they are under the lux cap threshold.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 12:52 PM

In which "History" are you living?

What history has there ever been when the Wizards had the "possibility of an injury exemption" to open up a roster spot?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"In which "History" are you living?

What history has there ever been when the Wizards had the "possibility of an injury exemption" to open up a roster spot?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 1:28 PM "

Are you a newborn or did you forget last season when ET was out all season with his heart ailment?

Or, last season when Gilby was out and the team carried one less player and had to hold practices of 4 on 4 or Unseld Jr. had to practice too.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Rosters are limited to 15 signed players. 12 play in a game, 3 automatically DNP. That's it, there is no longer an injury reserve since the last CBA was negotiated.

You would have to waive Pech or someone else from the roster to make room for Dermarr. And their salaries would still count towards the salary cap.

On the other hand, re. the disabled player exception according to this faq http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm :

"This exception allows a team which is over the cap to acquire a replacement for a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (if the player is disabled between July 1 and November 30) or the following season (if the player is disabled after November 30). This exception can also be granted in the event of a player's death."

Other limitations apply including the salary.

Posted by: rgz | October 21, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to hear that DerMarr was let go. I thought he had a chance to make it here.

I don't know if the decision was based on the Luxury Tax situation, or if it was Eddie's comfort level with Juan, or that Juan has had previous experience in Eddie's Offense, or if Juan showed more in practices .... but the decision certainly wasn't made based on how they played in Preseason games (where DerMarr clearly had the advantage).

Posted by: Rook | October 21, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"In which "History" are you living?

What history has there ever been when the Wizards had the "possibility of an injury exemption" to open up a roster spot?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 1:28 PM "

Are you a newborn or did you forget last season when ET was out all season with his heart ailment?

Or, last season when Gilby was out and the team carried one less player and had to hold practices of 4 on 4 or Unseld Jr. had to practice too.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 1:35 PM

At NO TIME, during that season, were the Wizards elligible for a "injury exemption" to open up a roster spot.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

From the same faq:
"A team must have a minimum of one and a maximum of three players on its Inactive List, although they can drop to zero for up to two weeks at a time, and can temporarily have four with league approval in the event of a hardship."

I wonder what qualifies for a hardship, and whether the league has allowed any in the last few years.

Posted by: rgz | October 21, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

From the same faq:
"A team must have a minimum of one and a maximum of three players on its Inactive List, although they can drop to zero for up to two weeks at a time, and can temporarily have four with league approval in the event of a hardship."

I wonder what qualifies for a hardship, and whether the league has allowed any in the last few years.

Posted by: rgz | October 21, 2008 2:05 PM

All that really means is that if, say, the Wizards have 5 injured players, three could be declared "Inactive", and the other two would be considered "Active".

There used to be restrictions on placing players on the "Inactive List".... Those restrictions were lifted; so the "hardship" language is now obsolete.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

This move only makes sense if the concern over Young's knee is greater than we've been led to believe. Otherwise, D. Johnson filled a bigger need.

Posted by: kalorama | October 21, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I thought Dermarr Johnson played better than Juan Dixon. Juan played in only one game, and shot 0 for 4.

Looks like Wiz have already made up their mind when they gave Dixon the partial guaranteed contract.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"At NO TIME, during that season, were the Wizards elligible for a "injury exemption" to open up a roster spot.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 2:01 PM "

Again, you must be a newborn because Ivan reported last season that Les BouleS could have requested an injury exception for ET but declined to do so even though it would have opened up a slot to help this undermanned team but it was moot b/c Abe wasn't going to go over the lux cap threshold win or lose.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

At NO TIME, during that season, were the Wizards elligible for a "injury exemption" to open up a roster spot.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 2:01 PM

They didn't have to apply for a roster spot because it was open the whole year last year.

They could not apply for the salary exception for a retired (due to medical reasons) player because Etan was coming back.

What they could have asked for is the disabled player exception to hire another player even if they were already over the salary cap. According to the same faq I referred to above, the teams have had difficulty getting the league to approve this exception.

The Wizards chose not to request this exception as they had other exceptions to use to hire another player.

Posted by: rgz | October 21, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Did the Wizards ever pick up options on NY and Pech?

Posted by: MDBaller1 | October 21, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"The Wizards chose not to request this exception as they had other exceptions to use to hire another player.

Posted by: rgz | October 21, 2008 2:21 PM "

Of which they didn't use anyway because win or lose, Abe wasn't going over the lux cap threshold.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I guess this year we look forward to Young/Dixon chucking sessions.

Posted by: Wizzy | October 21, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Awful decision...obviously other factors came into play in this decision, but on the basic front...TERRIBLE. for a team that is having trouble breaking 80 points a game, you'd think they'd make some sacrifices (lux tax, etc) in order to get a scorer in there. Some other team is going to have a fantastic pickup for their roster

Posted by: matt | October 21, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"I guess this year we look forward to Young/Dixon chucking sessions.

Posted by: Wizzy | October 21, 2008 2:42 PM "

Until Gilby comes back and then it'll be Gilby, Young, and maybe DS.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I like juan, let see what happens and go from there.

Go wiz...

Posted by: Me | October 21, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

History has shown that even if undermanned and given the possibility of an injury exception to open up a slot, Les BouleS are not guaranteed and not likely to pick up anyone to fill an open slot regardless, even if they are under the lux cap threshold.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 12:52 PM


Don't know if this counts but, we did pick up some scrub ass point gaurd last season when Daniels got hurt(Mike Wilks. I knew it would come to me). We picked him up for a 10 day contract unitl Daniels came back (or whoever was hurt). So its not out of the realm of possibility that Demarr makes it back on the team with a 10 day contract. And if you do want to factor in WIzards' history, look no further than Mike Hall. He had an excellent camp and the Wiz kept an eye on him and eventually, he was brought up to the roster for the remainder of the season.

And if i'm incorrect on any info I just provided, my bad. Just going off of what I can remember.

Posted by: C.Bell | October 21, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Another terrible decision by EG. Can't wait til this guy gets FIRED at the end of the year.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"Don't know if this counts but, we did pick up some scrub ass point gaurd last season when Daniels got hurt(Mike Wilks. I knew it would come to me). We picked him up for a 10 day contract unitl Daniels came back (or whoever was hurt). So its not out of the realm of possibility that Demarr makes it back on the team with a 10 day contract. And if you do want to factor in WIzards' history, look no further than Mike Hall. He had an excellent camp and the Wiz kept an eye on him and eventually, he was brought up to the roster for the remainder of the season.

And if i'm incorrect on any info I just provided, my bad. Just going off of what I can remember.

Posted by: C.Bell | October 21, 2008 3:42 PM "

I think Mike Hall was conveniently dropped last season right before the deadline to make him permanent on the roster, and they had exhausted 10 day contracts on him.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 21, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

You can go over the 15 player roster limit if you get exemptions due to injuries. Granted, this team is nowhere near that level yet of injuries, but you can get them granted. The Miami Heat for example, were granted two extra roster spots last year, and had either 16 or 17 players down the stretch last season.

Posted by: Roman | October 21, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Dixon was definately the choice, I can't believe that many people don't agree. DerMarr did well... but we KNOW what Dixon can do when games count, and the playoffs btw. We have some serious issues when it comes to offense if you haven't noticed. With our defense, if we aren't putting up alot of points we are finished. Where are the points going to come from other than Caron and Antawn? Daniels? Dee Brown? DeShawn? McGuire? Songaila? Etan? Blatche and Young both are too up and down to depend on totally, and those two aren't enough. Pecherov can't be counted on. McGee is a rookie. Dixon is going to prove vital off the bench mark my words! DerMarr was a question mark, and is versatile, but we have too many athletic versatile guys. We need guys off the bench who can fill a specific role.

Posted by: Darnell | October 21, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

we KNOW what he can do?? he has hardly played in preseason! He played just 17 games last season. Over the last two years he has averaged 5.4 ppg.

is that the kind of specific role you're hoping he will fill? limited offense and little or no defense?

who is running this team???

Posted by: prescrunk | October 22, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"for a team that is having trouble breaking 80 points a game, you'd think they'd make some sacrifices (lux tax, etc) in order to get a scorer in there."

Unless you are talking about signing players from outside, DerMarr's departure has nothing to do with the lux tax, as his salary will not be higher than either Dixon or Brown, and a team cannot keep more than 15 anyway (don't think Wiz qualifies for injury exception as neither Gilbert nor Haywood is for sure out for the season).

The problem I have with Dixon is that he is a streaky shooter and not a consistent shooter. I would prefer to sign Dickau (better outside shooter than Brown) and keep DerMarr in place of Brown and Dixon. However, whether Dickau can pick up Eddie's offense in short period is a question.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"The problem I have with Dixon is that he is a streaky shooter and not a consistent shooter. I would prefer to sign Dickau (better outside shooter than Brown) and keep DerMarr in place of Brown and Dixon. However, whether Dickau can pick up Eddie's offense in short period is a question.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 12:18 PM "

Really?

Juan averages 19.9 min, .414 FG, .341 3FG, and .830 FT.

Gilby averages 37.4 min, .427 FG, .358 3FG, and .809 FT.

If Juan is a streaky shooter, so is Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | October 22, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

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