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Daniels Day-to-Day

Wizards guard Antonio Daniels, who sat out of Saturday's loss in Orlando with a sore right knee, remains day-to-day. Daniels wore shorts and a jersey for today's practice but did not participate. His status for Wednesday's game has not been determined but Coach Eddie Jordan said Juan Dixon will make a second straight start at guard along with DeShawn Stevenson.

Daniels said Saturday that he hurt the knee over the summer while working out in San Antonio. It bothered him off and on during training camp and the preseason and he sat out one game to give it some rest (the team's loss to New Orleans in Berlin).

-Caron Butler was excused from today's practice to attend to a family matter. He is expected to return tomorrow.

By Ivan Carter  |  November 10, 2008; 1:14 PM ET
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Me first! Wizards last! :-/

Posted by: sargeantmofo | November 10, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Forget Stevenson and forget Thomas in the starting lineup. Neither guy has any business starting on a NBA team, let alone starting on a team that aspires to at least make the postseason. At least NY and Javale have potential.

Posted by: psps23 | November 10, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

We sure could use a guy who commands a double team, gets to the free throw line a lot and shoots 3's with some reasonable measure of success. That would fix our offense. (Hint: Such a guy is on our roster but a couple months away.)

On defense, it would be nice if we had a couple of guys in our starting rotation with long arms, quickness and a willingness to play defense. (Mac Attack with McGee and McGuire both starting, perhaps?)

Posted by: original_mark | November 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Next game: Jazz

Prediction: Lose by three

Side-bar Prediction: Etan has a good game


Posted by: BurgwithaU | November 10, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"Daniels said Saturday that he hurt the knee over the summer while working out in San Antonio."

And the Wiz's doctors probably told him that it was "ok to play" just like they have everyone else that they have ruined here.

"At least NY and Javale have potential."

I'd play them both 40 minutes a night and look to next year because they Wiz isn't going to make the playoffs, let alone win a championship this year.

EJ is right, they don't look anything like an NBA team right now. EG has to take some responsibility in that.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 10, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

In basketball defense wins titles, but it's darned hard to win a game without at least one guy that has a scorer's mentality. If Gil comes back healthy many of the present problems fix themselves.

I'd have to agree with the notion that right now Stevenson should go to the second unit and Young should be starting to add some firepower to the starting five.
Add also second the idea of putting McGee out there and letting the kid make some mistakes and learn on the court.

Being out there with the solid Vets should help him improve his game as he goes. At this point there's not much upside to be had playing Thomas with the starters. Etan should return to the role of an energy guy off the bench.

I hope the team takes their time with Daniels and they get him healthy, he's been slow and ineffective all season. If it's just inflamation, a week or two's rest should help. If it's more then that the problem will linger, and playing the way he was isn't a help to the team.

Posted by: flohrtv | November 10, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Wiz fans, let me break it down for you, the problem is Ernie. Fact is he has been overpaying overrated players:

-Etan Thomas, 6 years, 38 million. You have got to be kidding me. This man is a joke. He is more concerned with politics than about playing ball. He sucks. He does nor belong in the nba. 6 pts and 5 rbs, his season and career stats. Ernie felt he was worth 38 mill. HAHAHA!

-Antawn Jamison: 4 years 50 million. He is 32 years old, undersized pf. enough said

-Gilbert Arenas: 6 years, 111 million. Need I even comment on this move.

IT IS NOT EDDIE JORDANS FAULT!!! Thanks our beloved GM for these outstanding siginigs. What a championship core those 3 are.

Keep it up ernie.

Posted by: cj658 | November 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

ESPN radio reported that Jamison blasted the team's locker room attitude and that lack of seriousness approaching games.

I'm sure we'll hear more details.

Something's got to change - players moved - because this trend has been going on for too long.

EJ doesn't appear to have control of this team.

Posted by: SteveMG | November 10, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

cj658 - Etan was a bad signing.

Jamison was questionable, but given that he's effective because of his savvy and not athletic brilliance, it's reasonable to think his age won't have THAT much of an effect on his game.

Arenas is signed for six years. You're judging him after 3 months. I'll be interested in seeing if you keep saying the same things if he comes back and puts up over 29 & 6 per game. The Arenas judgment is FAR from over.

Posted by: psps23 | November 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Ivan, can you post something with some substance please? I'm sorry, you usually do a great job and that's why you don't hear from me, but you've been ridiculously absent so far this season while the team is nearly-imploding.

I don't know if I should be worried or not. We started 0-5 last year too, which is encouraging, but this year's team just looks atrocious, Blatche looks even worse, our captain and professional isn't joining team EJ on the cusp of getting fired? When is NY going to take over for Stevenson in the starting lineup? What about a change at center? Any trades you see happening? Can Blatche make a shot to save his life?

This team is either in free-fall or on the verge of some big changes to get back on the right track. Can you please talk a bit about what exactly is going on rather than just injury updates and try and get to the bottom of this mess?


Posted by: bryanman8 | November 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Note to Stevemg: EJ has not lost control of anything how do you derive that after five games? Antwan is speaking out of fustration,not out of displeasure with EJ after all he got a fifty million dollar contract at age thirty two!!! he should be speaking out.I'm sure fans and players alike are fustrated so far, they need Gilbert in the worst way and he needs to have EJ's back and on another note,EG needs to start interviewing for another medical staff he should have done that this offseason after the Arenas "train wreck" diagnosis and subsequent rehab chaos!!.Utah is up next and it will be just our luck that D.Williams will return to the starting lineup.Need a win big time,that is an understaement.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Starting Lineup

McGee - 5
AJ - 4
CB - 3
NY - 2
Juan - 1

Second Unit

AB/OPec (Flip a coin) - 5
Song. - 4
DMac - 3
Stevenson - 2
Brown - 1

Eddie put your best 5 out there to start and play them 30 to 35 minutes. You have to get out of the gate faster..........

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Daniels, NY, Butler, Arenas, Jarvis Hayes.....what do they all have in common? Injuries misdiagnosed by the team doctors who either allowed them to play or rehab in a way that caused them to aggravate injuries or need further surgery. EG should have gotten an entire new medical and training staff after last year. No way any GM of an NBA team would allow team doctors to make decisions on star players without sending them to a specialist like Dr. Andrews or Dr. Yocum. The Wizards use hacks who cause players to have constant setbacks, reinjuries, and never return to 100%. Wizards mgmt. should be ashamed at what they've allowed to be commonplace.

Arenas should never have been allowed back last year and he would have been 100% by training camp without a third operation. Butler's hip injuy was also serious and the doctors let him continue to play until he shut it down. Now Daniels admits he's been hurt since this summer? What team doctor would have allowed him to pass his physical with a bad knee? NY playing with a knee that will ultimately need surgery?

I seriously think EG needs to be fired if he isn't going to do something to ensure our players receive the best medical care available. People need to stop blaming EJ who has been dealt a loser's hand by the owner and management.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

EJ has not lost control of anything how do you derive that after five games?

Sorry, but it seems to me that when your players - any sport, any team - are publicly waving the dirty laundry, that that is a team that shows signs of disunity.

As we know, players say all the time that internal problems need to be keep within the confines of the lockerroom. When players start to point fingers - in public - that's a sign of a team in disarray.

Posted by: SteveMG | November 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

EJ has not lost control of anything how do you derive that after five games?

Also, I didn't say he had lost control; I said that he "doesn't appear" to have control.

Appearances and reality are sometimes two different things.

Anyway, I've stated elsewhere here that I think he's a solid coach and that on the list of problems facing this team, he's near the bottom.

Posted by: SteveMG | November 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

AJ needs to look in the mirror and blast that guy for not playing defense, shooting too many long J's, and thinking he's not part of the reason why Les BouleS are losers.

It wasn't long ago when he freely admitted how he missed the luxury of having BTH watch his back and play D against his own man.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: kcandlc | November 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I like a lot of the things that Jamison says and does to try to be a leader. But if people could stop patting him on the back for being a great guy long enough, they might realize that he is just as big a part of this teams struggles as the guys who don't show enough fire are. If his shooting (especially FTs) had been better to start this season, their record would definitly be better.

A leader should always look in the mirror first. He says what most Fans/GMs/and Owners want to hear, but I am always more impressed when he shows his leadership by working harder on his deficiencies and improving his play when the team needs it.

Posted by: SportzWiz | November 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I hope AD gets well soon, but given that, I don't care if he doesn't return as the starter anymore.

I heard that Wilcox or Collison may be available. Who would do this trade?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Starting line up:

Blatche - block shots, post up, rebound

Etan - rebound, try and make your layups and dunks

CB3 - do what you do

Juan Dixon - defend, score, be the champ that you are

Dee Brown for now, followed by dixon at PG






whoever at PG.

losing Haywood hurts; he was improving. To win they must play D first.

Posted by: Realness1 | November 10, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I heard that Wilcox or Collison may be available. Who would do this trade?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 10, 2008 5:42 PM

Absolutely, this is a Maryland alum worth pursuing. I would love to have Wilcox down on the blocks. Could immediately move Jamison to 6th man and go with Daniels, Young, Butler, Wilcox & McGee as starters. Given a healthy AD of course.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | November 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

btw... Daniels and Pecherov for Wilcox also works.

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 10, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Starting 5

McGee, Jamison, Butler, Young, Dixon

6th man Blatch (C/PF)


Etan, Songaila, McGuire, Stevenson, Daniels, Brown

We should be working this rotation so the young guys get the pt and experience needed so they are up to speed when Gil returns... then move Dixon to the bench.

The team I'd like to see us have by playoffs...

Haywood, Jamison, Butler, Young, Arenas with bench of McGee, Blatche, Dixon.

Our best team eventually (next season??) if we get healthy, young player development and team chemistry...

McGee, Blatche, Butler, Young, Arenas with bench of Haywood (C), Jamison (6th man - PF/SF), Dixon (SG/PG).

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 10, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

You all are too hard on DS. There are plenty of NBA starting guards out there who are just as mediocre as he is. He was just fine as a defense-first guard and a spot-up shooter playing off of Gil. The problem is casting him in a role where he's expected to create his own offense. It doesn't work, but there are plenty of other NBA players out there about whom the same could be said if their leading scorer went down.

I gotta agree with DCMan: Jamison is playing the same old red-cape defense and on offense is settling too much for the jumper, as is the entire team with the exception of Nick and Juan.

It's bad enough with no Gil on offense and no Brendan on defense, but with AJ and Caron going MIA, it's kiss-your-season-goodbye time. Might as well start riding McGee and Young sooner than later.

Posted by: Prazak | November 10, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Given how glowingly Jordan has spoken of Jamison's leadership in the past, I'm certain he'd be the first to applaud his team Captain calling the guys out for the lax effort and attitude. It's what a leader is supposed to do.

Big trades are just as unlikely now as they were in the offseason and in the regular season before that. The WIzards list of meaningful trades assets is short, not very impressive, and almost everyone comes with an asterisks:

Arenas: injured with a big contract
Haywood: Injured and possibly out for the season
Daniels: injured and old
Stevenson: Long-term deal, playing like crap
Thomas: big contract, coming off year-long layoff, not playing very well (and the whole "expiring contract" angle doesn't really come into play until next season)
Blatche: Appears to not be very bball smart or motivated (sadly, he's still probably their best trade chip)

They might get something for the young kids, but given the size of their contracts they'll likely only get other unpolished players on rookie deal or low paid journeyman vets.

Any deals they do manage to make are likely to be cosmetic, because people aren't going to be lining up to trade usable starting quality players for the Wizards backups or overpaid role players. Key players on winless teams aren't exactly hot properties.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 10, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse


Starting Lineup

McGee - 5
AJ - 4
CB - 3
NY - 2
Juan - 1

Second Unit

AB/OPec (Flip a coin) - 5
Song. - 4
DMac - 3
Stevenson - 2
Brown - 1

Eddie put your best 5 out there to start and play them 30 to 35 minutes. You have to get out of the gate faster..........

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 10, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

When is everyone going to realize that the organization is cheap? That’s why they do not send players to specialist and sign players that no other teams would sign. They get right up to the cap so the fans will think they actually care about winning. They should have never resigned Etan and who would want Songaila? Don’t even get me started on the draft picks. Anyone who thinks Gil is going to come back and turn this team around with his selfish play, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I would like to sell you. That is exactly what the front office is doing to the fan base. Play the rookies, try to trade AJ, hope Gil’s knee will keep him out and pray they get a top draft pick.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 10, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I called it.

Les Clips of the West are open to moving Chris Kaman.

Les Clips of the East should do everything in their "power" to get him.

" [ R U M O R S ]
Kaman available
The Clippers are open to a rational market trade for Chris Kaman, according to the New York Post"

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 11, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse


Where's the update on BTH? I've seen many quotes/shots of Gilby, but has BTH been on the bench supporting the team?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

It is trade time. Chris Kaman to Wiz for Andray Blatche and Etan Thomas. The salaries work for a trade. Ernie we need some help! The Wiz will still stay under the luxury tax.

Posted by: JoeC2 | November 11, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Any trade for Kaman would require the Wiz to part with Jamison....doubt the Clips would be stupid enough to trade a young stud like Al Thornton as a throw-in for Andre Blatche. Kaman also is a bit of head case and isn't considered very coachable/controllable...not the type of guy who would do well under EJ.

Next year, we can only hope that EG is able to trade some of the big salaries for guys in the last year of their contract (ET, Daniels, Songaila) to teams that want cap space freed up for 2010. EG has made too many bad signings in the past to have any real cap room until at least 2010.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Kaman is known as a bit of an eccentric type, but he's hardly a head case. Plus, if he can play for Dunleavy, who is hardly the easygoing type, he should have no problem with Jordan.

Also, if the NY Post reported the sky was blue, I wouldn't believe it until I looked out the window myself. That being said, if the piece is accurate, then it's pretty clear the Wiz have nothing the Clips want:

"Therefore, the search is on for a team prepared to deal an extraneous or unwanted macho forward to augment Camby"

The Wizards don't even have an essential macho forward, let alone one an extraneous one.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 11, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

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