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Going Big?

Last week, I wrote a blog entry proposing that Coach Eddie Jordan consider a "big" lineup. Here's the link:

Yesterday, Jordan talked a little bit about that exact lineup he used for a short stretch of the second quarter and may consider using again. I touched on that in my story in today's paper.

Jordan's one hangup, and it's one he's had for awhile, is the idea of playing Caron Butler too many minutes at shooting guard. His reasoning is pretty sound. I mean, the guy is a two-time all star as a small forward, so why mess with that?

Jordan on the subject yesterday: "You guys have to remember, Caron is an all star, a two year all star at the small forward position, so why do you tweak with that? ... Anyway, so, you don't want to sort of deal with that and screw that up and again, we have capable 2s. But, in a pinch, I think you can play Caron at the 2. He can get some post-ups but you gotta know what type of flow you need to have with him. And we're working on that. But, we have to start with the basic package and we'll diversify and be flexible as we go along."

Bottom line: JaVale McGee's rapid progression has really opened up Jordan's options. For one thing, he can simply rotate Thomas and McGee at center and allow Andray Blatche and Darius Songaila to compete for time at their natural power forward spot. I think that's good for both of those guys. For another, the possibilities of pairing McGee with either Blatche or Songaila is very intriguing. Songaila can help spread the floor with his passing and shooting ability but not be as much of a liabililty defensively because McGee can cover for him on the weak side.

As for Blatche, I thought he played pretty well the other night. The main thing is that he played very hard. That's No. 1 for him. However, I think every Wizard fan in the world would love to see him go up stronger and stop with some of the pretty finger-roll, finesse stuff. He's 6-11 and has a wingspan. Go up strong young man!

That was particularly the case on one play in the second half when Andray made a nice move to the bucket and drew a foul but went up soft and missed the bunny. Then, he made only one of two free throws. That's giving away two points right there.

Thoughts?

By Ivan Carter  |  November 14, 2008; 11:31 AM ET
 
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Yeah I remember that play. Blatche got swatted hard-core style. He's got a little Bwood in him (SOFT).

GOD BLESS MCGEE!!!

Posted by: BurgwithaU | November 14, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm definitely a believer in JaVale McGee, as long as he gets 30 minutes a game I don't care if he comes off the bench. What will be a challenge is the fact that refs will whistle him for fouls just because he's a rookie. I always detested how refs do this. Blatche is decent bench player, however I've given up on him as far as being a starter or having great potential. Let's just say he doesn't get it.

Posted by: klondike_dave | November 14, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Blatche also did a bone head behind the back pass after getting an offensive rebound. He should have passed the ball out to a guard. That's another loss of a potential 2 points.

Haywood used to do the fade away and finesse stuff until last year. Don't know what clicked in his head but last year he dunked and went after offensive rebounds like a mad man. Blatche needs to follow Haywood style of play. He has more skills than Haywood. He just need to be more intense.

Posted by: freeflyr61 | November 14, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

This is almost completely off-topic, but I can't help it because it's so amazing. This team is 1-5, with our only win coming against a team playing on the opposite coast on the second night of a back to back, and we're all losing our collective minds over Lemonhead. Myself included.

This is the power of Lemonhead- he's our mulligan for the Kwame pick, our consolation for the years of hope wasted on Webber, and our payback for sending all our big men to Detroit for nothing in return. He's the change we can believe in!

Assuming he doesn't get hurt/fat/shot/lazy/traded, of course.

Posted by: bryc3 | November 14, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

So, how does OPech fit into the plans? I thought he was a master gym rat waiting to pounce on dat cheese!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Why mess with Caron at small forward?
It's to win of course!!!
That's more logical than sticking with history. This is making me more convinced that Jordan cannot deal with change, he wants things neat and clean. That's not the way to win, trying not to make mistakes?

Posted by: rickgonz | November 14, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

It will be great to have Brendan back. Until last season I never thought I would say that, but if he comes back and plays as strongly as he did last year he'll be a real asset to have in the middle.

The only problem is that Brendan doesn't do well coming off the bench. He has to be the starter or he sulks and loses focus. But wouldn't it be great to start Brendan, sub in McGee for Brendan, then sub Brendan for Antawn and slide McGee over to the 4 and play the two big men together? I'm looking forward to seeing those two on the court together, maybe seeing Antawn over at the 3 and Caron at the 2 when the matchups work. Keep Blatche in the rotation and settle into a guard rotation of Gil, DS, and Nick, and start shopping for a 3-point specialist, preferably a swingman. That would put the Wiz in a good position to dump some big contracts next summer, like Etan's and Antonio's -- another reason to get Antonio's knee right.

Posted by: Prazak | November 14, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

This is a good read for anyone as bored as I am on a rainy Friday afternoon. Here's the doom and gloom after we picked Lemonhead. Maybe everyone can admit we're not as smart as we think we are?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2008/06/introducing_javale_mcgee.html

This one particularly makes me smile:

"McGee can't help, if at all, for another 3 years."

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 26, 2008 10:25 PM

Posted by: bryc3 | November 14, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

On the ESPN pre-game show when asked what Oden should do in his first game back, former coach Avery Johnson said that he should concentrate on rebounding and running the court. When asked again, he chose to add nothing to his advice.

The same principle applies to Blatche. Keep it simple. Rebound and defend. No dribbling the length of the court and no shots beyond 18 feet.

EG should be thinking about how to develop McGee, Blatche and Young. Lots of potential, but they need more than just minutes.

If they can be developed, a line-up with McGee, Blatche, Butler, Young and Arenas would be stellar in 2-3 years.

Posted by: Izman | November 14, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I am soo happy McGee is playing well. It's a long season so we'll see how much he can keep it up but so far so good. I'm really disappointed in Blatche. He's not agressive enough and takes too many outside shots and as Ivan mentioned too soft when driving to the basket. I think of Blatche as a poor man's Lamar Odom, he has tons of potential but his attitude towards the game won't get him to the level many people expect.

McGee and lets not forget Nic Young has shown some promise with the team. When I watch the Blazers young team i think of how the Wizards can be as talented as them if they can focus on winning and not lookin

Posted by: rcnasa | November 14, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

There has been a giant leap between the JaVale, the raw college sophmore who looked lost in SL, to JaVale we got a taste of this week. Sure, Utah was playing on a b2b w/o their starting center, but-still. There is too-much upside ahead for this guy. Pair him with Haywood, Young, Arenas and Caron, and that's a potent group.....Can't wait to see it.

Posted by: closg | November 14, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Other than not being aggressive enough on offense, what's the assessment of Blatche's defense? I've seen him get elbowed and smacked in the face a lot, so he must be doing something right bothering the opposing bigs?

Posted by: rickgonz | November 14, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"This one particularly makes me smile:

"McGee can't help, if at all, for another 3 years."

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 26, 2008 10:25 PM

Posted by: bryc3 | November 14, 2008 12:39 PM "

You would probably smile just because paint is drying on the wall.

Team is 1-5.

You're clearly getting ahead of yourself.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Can we all just agree that AB leaves 5 points on the floor every night. This is not to say that other players don't only that we can count on AB doing it.

Posted by: NFeKPo | November 14, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Love Mcgee!!!!!!!!!! EG got it right for once.


Does anyone know if the MD basketball game is on local tv tonight?

Posted by: beas13 | November 14, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Reason for messing with it, Eddie? Uhhh maybe wins. I understand the loyalty to a guy but do what's best for the team. In this case, I'd rather have a good player at the 2 than an 'all star at the 3' because putting CB at 2 means benching Deshawn. The possible loss of production at the sf position is more than offset by the replacement of Deshawn. All the incumbent sf has to do is be better there than DS was at the sg position. Not hard to do.

As for lineups, I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw (and liked) the brief frontcourt pairing of McGee, AJ and AB. It was effective for the short time that they were out there together.
Of course AB made a couple stupid plays but with less than 30 starts under his belt, they are to be expected. Remember, he made those plays in summer league. Once he learns that this is no longer subpar competition, he'll adjust...hopefully.

closg, you recommended the Mcgee, Gil, CB, Young and Haywood. I'm guessing Haywood at C, McGee at pf, CB at sf, NY at sg and Gil at pg.

That lineup has the potential to be scary good. Interior presence covers up the perimeter defensive deficiencies. It's improbable but me likey.


Posted by: original_mark | November 14, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Blatche needs to be traded but what do I know...

Whatever the case I hope they dominate tonight in Miami

http://www.wizardsextreme.com

Posted by: WizardsExtreme | November 14, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"This one particularly makes me smile:

"McGee can't help, if at all, for another 3 years."

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 26, 2008 10:25 PM

Posted by: bryc3 | November 14, 2008 12:39 PM "

BTW, this blog topic was created by Ivan right after the draft, June 26, 2008.

Therefore, BTH was not even injured yet (injured during training camp; 10/2/2008), and if BTH was not injured, it would have been highly unlike for JaTravel to get the PT that he's getting now.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Jordan's offense--even going back to NJ with Kidd, Martin, Jefferson--has benefited from getting a lot of points from running and really pushing the ball. It requires very skilled, aggressive, fast point guards. Finally, in Young, McGee, Blatche they have some young horses who can finish above the rim. But, without Gilbert, they're not running and pushing it enough to pick up the 15-20 fast-break points they used to.

Posted by: jweber1 | November 14, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

It’s only one win and the team is still 1-5 and they have no chance at winning a championship. If anyone wants to place a bet that they will, let me know. The best they can do since they got themselves locked into contracts that make no sense is play McGee considering Haywood is out. This team has to forget about history "You guys have to remember, Caron is an all star, a two year all star at the small forward position, so why do you tweak with that? Is this coach on drugs? Does he remember how far they made it in the playoffs those two years? The question is what will the organization do to make this team better and do they have any interest in winning a championship? If the answer is they will continue to refuse to go over the luxury cap then they have no chance. The six teams under the cap are; the Wizards, Clippers, Bobcats, Thunder (Sonics), Warriors and the Grizzlies and they have a total of eleven wins? What does that tell you!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 14, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

AB is softer than Charmin, low basketball IQ, and doesn't play hard. He should be playing limited minutes with the 2nd unit until he proves to be more consistent in his effort and performance. It's fairly obvious that he makes too many bad plays each game to be a rotation player.

I still think McGee should start and play his 30 minutes a night with ET off the bench. Too many games we come out slow and the 2nd unit is asked to make up a deficit to get us back in the game.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 14, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

LOL. Wizfan89, you're tough on ol' AB. He's still a kid. He probably is suited to the 2nd team but I'd give him consistent backup minutes at his proper position and see what he does. The key is playing him at his proper position.
He's too light in the azz for C and turns it over too much for sf. Put him in a position where he just has to shoot or pass without dribbling and he may be ok.

Posted by: original_mark | November 14, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I still EJ bringing JaVale off the bench. #1 he won't get too tired out. #2 he won't start the game off with rookie mistakes. #3 he gets a chance to start off against the other team's 2nd unit.

When will AB see the light? If surviving a gun shot didn't do it, what will? Maybe he sees McGee working hard and getting playing time and that turns it on for AB.

Posted by: tundey | November 14, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"However, I think every Wizard fan in the world would love to see him go up stronger and stop with some of the pretty finger-roll, finesse stuff. He's 6-11 and has a wingspan. Go up strong young man!"

Someone should have this engraved onto a slab of marble and stand it next to Blatche's stall in the locker room.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Rickgonz has got it exactly right. You play to win games, as Herm Edwards wisely stated. EJ and crew should be focusing on winning games, not be trying to get guys into the allstar game. There job is to put the best basketball team on the floor. So, if I've got Eddie's logic right, he'd rather win only 20 games than not send Caron to the allstar game.

C'mon, that is the lamest answer I've ever heard. If that is really what he believes, he should be fired.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | November 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Blatche doesn't have to dribble in any position he plays. He's free to stop doing it at any time and I'm sure Jordan would be love it. His lack of court sense has nothing to do with the position he plays, because he's played at least 3 of them over the course of the past 3+ years and he keeps making the same mistakes at all of them.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Therefore, BTH was not even injured yet (injured during training camp; 10/2/2008), and if BTH was not injured, it would have been highly unlike for JaTravel to get the PT that he's getting now.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 1:56 PM

Just admit you were wrong.

Posted by: IrenePollin | November 14, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

""However, I think every Wizard fan in the world would love to see him go up stronger and stop with some of the pretty finger-roll, finesse stuff. He's 6-11 and has a wingspan. Go up strong young man!"

Someone should have this engraved onto a slab of marble and stand it next to Blatche's stall in the locker room.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2008 2:52 PM "

Sorry, he learned from the master and captain of dipsy doo's....Antawn Jamison.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

"So, if I've got Eddie's logic right, he'd rather win only 20 games than not send Caron to the allstar game."

I'm pretty sure you've got his logic completely wrong.

He's not playing Caron at the SF spot because he wants to get him into all-star game. That's a rather silly suggestion. He's playing him at the SF spot because--as evidenced by the fact that he's already made two all-star games at SF--it's Butler strongest position as a player and, as a coach, the best way to win games is to let your players play to their strengths. Could Butler be effective at SG? Probably. As effective as he is at SF? Not even close.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"AB is softer than Charmin, low basketball IQ, and doesn't play hard. He should be playing limited minutes with the 2nd unit until he proves to be more consistent in his effort and performance. It's fairly obvious that he makes too many bad plays each game to be a rotation player.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 14, 2008 2:05 PM "

True, and master GM, Grunfeld, rewarded him with a fat 15 mil contract when no other team was even interested.

Brilliant EG!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Just admit you were wrong.

Posted by: IrenePollin | November 14, 2008 2:57 PM "

Why are you on this blog? Don't you have a DEPENDS to go change?

http://www.depend.com/

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I've read that Stephon Marbury is discussing a buyout with the Knicks any thoughts on Stephon comming on board and does he fit under the cap and would he be a good fit with this squad, he still has a few good years left and he can score i don't think a trade is possible because of a salary disparity. Any opinions?

Posted by: dargregmag | November 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Marbury is a team killing cancer. It's not a coincidence that, ever since he left Minnesota (after publicly declaring that he couldn't stomach the idea of Kevin Garnett making more money than him), teams he joins don't win and the teams he leaves get better after he's gone.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

JaVale McGee has tons of upside. He plays tough and with energy. He could expand and play Power Forward but he's already more valuable than Blatche because he fits the teams needs. I might idealize say... Jermaine O'neal when I consider Blatche. You do hope he gains confidence but, his physique says he doesn't work as hard as Kevin Garnett amounting to Michael Jordan type day dreams. Jermaine O'neal just seams a more conservative yet successful ideal for Blatche. Though in some ways he reminds me of Kwame Brown, with Brown faltering at Center and showing some occasional offensive spark. It's almost like they allowed Blatche to do what Brown wanted, but possibly over compensated.

Jamison has tons of veteran savy, but he may be getting a little old to play the 3. Were Blatche a little more confident, a bit stronger there might be more of an effect to the big lineup. Then Jamison would draw more fouls with his quick leans and flips. Caron plays strong enough to do both at 2 and 3 for Areanas and Nick Young. I'm thinking like a push/pull effect. He pushes so hard that effectively the defender gets pulled into fouls on other guy.

Posted by: chavez66 | November 14, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Marbury is a major douc*e bag, He is so NOT what this team needs.we just need Gilbert back. Trade Blatche as soon as possible, all potential that wont materialize.Get the Grizzlies #1 next year and add some more trash, OP or AD.

Thank 0-5 for McGee becoming a force this early.

Posted by: squammy | November 14, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Blatche has the mindset of trying to be a complete package: rebounding, blocking, scoring, bringing the ball up the court, passing, etc. I don't know how this mindset came about, but that definitely played a role in his lack of development. Had he had the mindset of going out there to be a solid 4 (and perhaps 5, if needed, like last year), he could have concentrated on his front court duties. Dang Jared Jeffries syndrome...

Posted by: -CN- | November 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

How is Marbury going to be on the team? Even if he were to negotiate a buyout. Not sure what the cap figure looks like, but I think there's little room to absorb another salary, even if it's the veteran's minimum. I don't know many teams willing to bring Marbury aboard, unfair, maybe, but that is a reputation he brought upon himself...

Posted by: -CN- | November 14, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I remeber reading some time ago that Andray Blatche's favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett. Well Andray, if you play with anywhere near the level of intensity that KG plays with, and do so consistently, you can be a damn good player. As far a Javale goes, wow! Who's going to mentor him on the nuances of playing center in the NBA? Major kudos to Ernie G, even though he thought he had a diamond in the rough, and now the kid's beginning to look like he could be the Hope Diamond!

Posted by: clfrdj | November 14, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

how dare someone go back and find an erroneous Dcman comment and paste it back on the blog for all to see.

Everyone is surprised by this kid. Even the coaching staff. Grunfeld has the eye however. Pech pick questionable. A 7 foot shooter who can't shoot. Reminds me of a taller Jarvis Hayes. His problem is what does he contribute if he shot doesn't go in? I'd have to look and see who was drafted after him but I don't recall that being a strong draft. propably some sleepers picked after him. Happens every year.

The whole thing with this team is always "if". Fact is their top guys can't stay healthy together long enough to see what they really have. They tease with potential. Fate/karma/circumstance seem to have other plans for this team.

Posted by: unkonchus | November 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I am glad to see Ivan comment on the fact that AB actually had a pretty good game against the Jazz. Too many heartbroken Blatch-lovers on this blog have turned on him and only look for the boneheaded plays. An honest assessment of the two young bigs on this team (AB and McGee) is this:

1) The things that an average fan can see Blatch needing to improve are not the only things that EJ talks to him about. I saw improved hustle and I saw him calling things out on defense alot like BH used to do. He did a good job against the Pick 'n Roll, even though some fans just saw Boozer sink two tough jumpers and want to yell at Blatch for it. I think more time at the 4 instead of the 5 will be great for his development, but I think he really needs to improve his explosiveness on plays like that soft finger roll that should be dunked. And obviously we all want him to eliminate those foolish plays that we can expect from him at least twice a game.

2) McGee should NOT start for the team as it now stands. I love what he has shown so far, but they need his energy coming off the bench. Besides all that really matters is that he gets the most minutes at the position.

Posted by: SportzWiz | November 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards would have to make room for any prospective free agent addition to the Wizards roster since they already have 15 which is the maximum.
They could do so by waiving or moving somebody.

Reportedly the two candidates with only partially guaranteed contracts are Juan Dixon and Dee Brown. I am not sure about Dominic McGuire, his contract might also be partially guaranteed.

Or the Wizards could waive a guaranteed contract, in which case they would still have to pay that player the full amount or they might try to buy him out of his contract at a lower price. Players might accept a buyout if they can hitch a ride on another team. Those salaries or buyouts would still be counted towards the luxury tax limit.

Or the Wizards might do a trade, and the candidate list is long, but I think there would be few if any teams interested:
Stevenson, Daniels, Thomas, Songaila, McGuire, Pecherov.

Aside from the possibility of Marbury freeing himself from the Knicks, there are still a bunch of veteran free agents known to be seeking a 08-09 contract like
Juwan Howard, Robert Horry, Bonzi Wells, Antonio McDyess, Damon Stoudamire, Alonzo Mourning, Damon Jones, Dikembe Mutombo, Ira Newble...

For better or worse, it looks like the current roster is it for the rest of the year.

Posted by: rickgonz | November 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Is it too early to say that Ernie Grunfeld has done it again??


Posted by: FanFromFallsChurch | November 14, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

rickgonz, with the exception of Stevenson, who is a legitimate NBA player, I agree with you that Daniels, Thomas, Songaila, McGuire, and Pecherov are too much dead wood for any one team to carry. I would throw in that Dee Brown fella as well and AB is awfully borderline for a 4th year player.

Way to go, Ernie.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | November 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

"This one particularly makes me smile:

"McGee can't help, if at all, for another 3 years."

Posted by: DC Man88 | June 26, 2008 10:25 PM

Posted by: bryc3 | November 14, 2008 12:39 PM "

I bet LaBradford Smith made you smile with high hopes after his MJ game too. How'd that career turn out?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

With Blatche you have to understand that there will be growing pains with a big man with a skill set like his, he still needs to learn when to slow down and when you use his athleticism. He did a great job going coast to coast getting two easy points very few men his size convert, instead they stand there frozen after the steal and look for a guard to pass to, andray does not. But then there is the behind the back pass with three defenders in the lane between he and caron, he ought to shoot that one; don't forget it was his hustle that got that board and subsequently the chance to score or turn it over with a sweet behind the back. He played solid d and provided valuable minutes against that jazz. 7, 5 in 20 mins is solid 2 steals and two turns also. He does need to bring the thunder though, he hasn't shown a vicious slam or swat yet, the plays that made him impressive at points last year. You want to see him attack the rim like he did last year and javale has thus far in his young career. it is invaluable that he becomes able to discern what a given situation calls for, either a big man getting huge or using his skills, he seems too likely to play to his skills and not his size. I'd like to see him use his post up game, his quick fakes and ability to maneuver in tight spaces(finishing with either hand ability to reverse) near the rim can be a big advantage against the majority of bigs who seem stuck in the mud. But in either case our d is actually serviceable with him getting significant time next to mcgee. The key to Blatche is certainly effort and composure, he has the talent. Keep getting in eddie's ear, caron may not be an all star 2 with so many huge scorers and personalities at the position but our best squad is with him at the two and jamison at the three. In caron I trust.

Posted by: bford1kb | November 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

This is a good read for anyone as bored as I am on a rainy Friday afternoon. Here's the doom and gloom after we picked Lemonhead. Maybe everyone can admit we're not as smart as we think we are?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2008/06/introducing_javale_mcgee.html

Posted by: bryc3 | November 14, 2008 12:39 PM

bryc3, well, I for one can face up to my shortcomings as a prognosticator. I railed against the McGee pick after the Wizards picked him.

McGee is already better than I though he was - better in his first year so far than the Wizards other recent 1st round picks - better right now than Andray Blatche (and I'm a Blatche fan) - better right now than Etan Thomas (and I'm NOT a Thomas fan).

I was wrong.


Some others on here will NEVER admit it -(You know the one. He who should not be named. He of constant negativity. He of numerous "depends" comments. He of the "Lefty in the barn" stories.) - but they (he) was wrong too.

Posted by: Rook6980 | November 14, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Andray Blatche is Steve Urkel trapped in Kevin Garnett's body.

Posted by: breck3957 | November 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"AB is awfully borderline for a 4th year player" - shovetheplanet

hmmm.....other than monta ellis, and possibly lou williams, who else taken in the second round of the 2005 draft has panned out better than blatche?

we all expect this kid to be so good because we all see how much skill he has. but let's not forget he was taken 49th out of 60 total players in the draft. he also essentially missed his entire first season. and did not play any college ball. even after 4 seasons, along with OP he's the second youngest player on the team still, with mcgee at 20 being the youngest.

and unlike mcgee, he came in behind an allstar at his position and got zero playing time as a result. you think if haywood was perfectly healthy that mcgee would've seen the court in these for 5 games with ej as coach? i seriously doubt it.

now these aren't excuses for blatche. he clearly needs to learn how to focus/concentrate better. but to say he's borderline dead weight just because he's been in the league for 4 seasons is a bit extreme. we can go to the overused j. o'neal comparison again: his fourth season was pretty bad too. it wasn't until indiana gave him 30+ minutes a game, consistently, that he started to improve.

again, not saying blatche would improve as dramatically, but i don't think you can just say he's borderline dead weight.

Posted by: segastyle | November 14, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

"Some others on here will NEVER admit it -(You know the one. He who should not be named. He of constant negativity. He of numerous "depends" comments. He of the "Lefty in the barn" stories.) - but they (he) was wrong too.

Posted by: Rook6980 | November 14, 2008 6:30 PM "

You are a serious loser who needs to get an F'n life.

You probably grew up as the playground tattle tale. F'n nerd.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

first time reading this blog, but it's great. especially the message board comments!

You are a serious loser who needs to get an F'n life.

You probably grew up as the playground tattle tale. F'n nerd.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 10:26 PM

hmm, i think only one person has posted EIGHT messages on this topic. guess who?

Posted by: hardyharhar1 | November 15, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Is DC a curse for producing offense or something? The onluy team that scores conistently around here is the CAPS! Thank God for them or I would say take all the sports teams out of DC!

I am just disappointed...I know the guys out there are trying hard but I wish Antonio Daniels would sit over there and SHUT UP! If you aint on the court helping SHUT UP! He is the most overpaid non-shooting player/asst. coach there is! If he couldnt play before and slash(which is how he makes his living) why the F would you go out and jepordize yourself more? Now the team that was depending on you for stability has to wait for your lame a$$ to get back on the floor!

Posted by: SkinzFan4lyfe | November 18, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

And Etan Thomas should be coming off the bench behind Songolia...I know that dummy of a coach wants to start a veteran so start Darius atleast he can pass, plays good position defense and can spread the floor. Did I meantion he could shoot free throws???

I know we expect more from the younger players but I feel like they are overwhelmed trying to live up to all this hooplah about how they need to step up!!! NO...the freaking management needs to build a team who is not so top heavy! 2 and a half All-stars do not make a good team! Sure wish we could have jamaal tinsley right now so we could let Deshawn, Juan, and Nick do what they came here to do be defenders and SCORE the freaking ball!

Posted by: SkinzFan4lyfe | November 18, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

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