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Iverson Traded to Detroit (Updated)

The shakeup that Pistons General Manager Joe Dumars said was coming has finally arrived. I just received confirmation from an NBA front office executive with knowledge of the talks that Detroit has reached a tentative agreement to acquire Allen Iverson from the Denver Nuggets in exchange for Denver native Chauncey Billups, former Nugget Antonio McDyess and center Cheikh Samb.

The deal lets the Pistons rent for a season one of the best scorers in NBA history, and it gives the Nuggets a much-needed, quality point guard and front court depth.

"We are pleased to welcome Allen Iverson to the Pistons organization," Dumars said in a statement released by the team. "Allen has proven he is one of the elite players in the league and we like what he adds to our roster at the guard position. We appreciate everything that Chauncey Billups, Antonio McDyess and Cheikh Samb brought to the organization during their time here in Detroit and we certainly wish them all the best."


Iverson was in the last year of a deal that was going to pay him $21.9 million, and the Nuggets appeared to be in the midst of rebuilding when they traded Marcus Camby to the Los Angeles Clippers for the box of empty candy wrappers in a salary dump. The deal also put an end to the Iverson-Carmelo Anthony union, which produced some high scoring games, but back-to-back first round exits. No need to spend that much money to simply poke your toe in the playoff pool.


Iverson, the 1996 No. 1 overall pick out of Georgetown, is averaging 18.7 points and 6.7 assists through three games this season. Iverson spent the first 10 ½ seasons of his career in Philadelphia before being moved to Denver in December 2006. An eight-time all-star, he has a career scoring average of 27.7 points and 6.3 assists.

Dumars has tried to get Iverson before. He nearly acquired Iverson from Philadelphia in the summer of 2000, but Matt Geiger refused to waive a trade kicker that nixed the deal. That near-deal sparked the best season of Iverson's career, when he won the 2001 MVP award and led the 76ers to the NBA Finals.

The trade breaks up the most consistent starting quartet in the NBA -- Billups, Richard Hamilton, Rasheed Wallace and Tayshaun Prince -- which has been together since February 2004. It also sends Billups packing after finally finding stability in one place following a career bouncing around all over the map.

Billups, 32, spent the past six seasons in Detroit, advancing to the conference finals each season. He played previously in Denver, where he appeared in 58 games in two seasons from 1998-2000. In 12 seasons, he has career averages of 14.8 points and 5.5 assists and has made three all-star appearances.

Billups was asked about being mentioned in trade rumors earlier this month and said he was unfazed. "I'm good," Billups said. "That's something you can never really control. I learned that early in my career. All I can really control, dog, is my preparation, 'cause I'm going to be ready. My whole thing is, it always has been, I'm going to be ready to play at a high level, that's whatever or wherever it is."

Dumars felt the need to break up his team with it getting older, and after it failed to reach the NBA Finals for the third year in a row. The trade also freed up tons of cap room next summer, wtih Rasheed Wallace's $13.7 million deal coming off the books next summer.

Billups spoke about why the Pistons failed in the past three Eastern Conference Finals against Miami, Cleveland and Boston. "With all due respect, I give all those teams the credit. Boston was the champions. A couple of years before that, we got beat by Miami, they end up being the champions. Cleveland beat us. But I think it was a lot of times, more of us, letting small things slide and not held each other accountable as we should have and it catches up with you. Then, when you try to tighten it back up, it's too loose."

Billups added that he signed a four-year, $50-million contract two summers ago because he wanted to remain a part of "a special group" in Detroit, but has stated before that he has no problem finishing his career in his home state. Billups also played college ball at Colorado.

By Michael Lee  |  November 3, 2008; 12:18 PM ET
 
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Comments

Huh?

Why would Dumars give up Billups for AI? Doesn't make sense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

Why would Dumars give up Billups for AI? Doesn't make sense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

Why would Dumars give up Billups for AI? Doesn't make sense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see this one coming - i did notice McDyess didn't get that many minutes the other nite against Washington - i guess Detroit is trying to shake things up.

Posted by: blt8828 | November 3, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

Why would Dumars give up Billups for AI? Doesn't make sense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Huh?

Why would Dumars give up Billups for AI? Doesn't make sense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

As a Detroit native and long-time Pistons fan, I can only say:

WTF???!!!

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

As a Detroit native and long-time Pistons fan, I can only say:

WTF???!!!

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 3, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow...I def did not see this coming. I think this makes Detroit a championship contender again and leaves Denver out of the western conf. playoff picture.

Posted by: jansjay | November 3, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

What is Dumars doing? Detroit just ruined their team. They are no longer a contender as far as I'm concerned. They gave up probably their best bench player...definitely their best big man bench player and I think Billups is a better all around player than AI. Billups is a complete player...AI is a scorer thats it

Posted by: beas13 | November 3, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I am the biggest Iverson fan as i am huge Gtown Hoyas fan....that being said what the heck is Detroit doing... this makes no sense unless they are trying to lose

Posted by: cosmiccatnip1 | November 3, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Reason number 1 for this trade, Rodney Stuckey. Dumars loves him and rightfully so and as much as a love Chauncey he clearly looked older last year and Stuckey gives you the same type of point guard and Iverson can still score with the best of them. I think this trade will look a lot better at season's end. Dumars is one of the best GM's in the league, don't sweat it Detroit

Posted by: jayandcat | November 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

No wonder Carmelo got a haircut.The Thuggets gotten shaken up,Poor Chauncey.

Posted by: jeremydvid | November 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Reason number 1 for this trade, Rodney Stuckey. Dumars loves him and rightfully so and as much as I love Chauncey he clearly looked older last year and Stuckey gives you the same type of point guard and Iverson can still score with the best of them. I think this trade will look a lot better at season's end. Dumars is one of the best GM's in the league, don't sweat it Detroit

Posted by: jayandcat | November 3, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Iverson is still a quality player in this league. When is the last time you heard of any off the court issue with AI. He is a proven scorer going to a team that has great team defense.

Posted by: dcshaky | November 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Iverson is still a very good player, but he's a bad fit for a team like Detroit, that thrives on Defense and precise, team-oriented offense.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"Dumars is one of the best GM's in the league,"

Yeah, tell that to Darko...

I guess they wanted more scoring and less everything else...

Posted by: Krazijoe | November 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

What can I say. The Pistons and Nuggets' GM both have balls to gamble and make that trade possible. If only EG took the plunge with AJ last season.

By the way, Dumars is not shy firing the coach either, even if they have a winning record. Another thing EG can learn from a succesful GM.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Moves like this shows Ernie is being handcuffed by Mr Polin. This team has won championships but yet strives to get better/fix deficiencies. 6 years of EJordan because the owner likes him. Enough all ready. It's definitely "Time for Change" in DC

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | November 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I guess this means that they think that the combo of Kwame and AI can adequately replace MyDyess and Billups. With their other bigs in place (Maxiell, Sheed, Amir), it's hard to argue against it. It's basically a AI for Billups deal since McDyess is replaceable.
I'm excited for AI. He'll have the other guys covering up any defensive deficiencies he may have. On the offensive end, he has guys who can score. He also still has the ability to score. I'm guessing we see one of the highest assist totals of his cereer this year. I'm all in. (oops. that one was already taken)

Posted by: original_mark | November 3, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Hard to see what "deficiency" this trade fixes.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Very strange.. Iverson is the same age as Billups. Iverson has also had a history of injuries. Good job Nuggets!!! Billups is an awesome leader and point guard.

Posted by: jercha | November 3, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"Dumars felt the need to break up his team with it getting older, and after it failed to reach the NBA Finals for the third year in a row."

If that's the reason for the trade, then dealing for Iverson makes even less sense.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 3, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

so let me get this straight.... Are they going to run A-I at the point with Hamilton in the back court or do they expect A-I to come off the bench for Stuckey? I'm not sure if I see A-I as a full time playmaker in the D.

Posted by: gregskins | November 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Of course, the real test of the logic of this deal will be when Iverson's contract expires. I would think (hope) that Dumars has no intention of re-signing him to a long-term deal in the offseason.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

If the Pistons were looking for a consistent scorer, did they forget that they have Rip on the team?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

If the Pistons were looking for a consistent scorer, did they forget that they have Rip on the team?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

If the Pistons were looking for a consistent scorer, did they forget that they have Rip on the team?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Pistons probably positioning themselves for the Lebron or Dwayne Wade sweepstakes. Of course, Les BouleS are out of the running for those candidates.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

It seems like the plan is to start A.I. at the point, with Stuckey coming off the bench. I guess Dumars thinks Stuckey could learn a few things from him. Hmmm.

I do know that Detroit gets a baller (to replace a baller). Not sure how good AI's on-the-ball defense is, but he gets steals and is as tough as they come.

Credit to Dumars for taking that leap. That took guts. Could he be going after one of the big FAs next year?

Posted by: Good2bOK | November 3, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Pistons probably positioning themselves for the Lebron or Dwayne Wade sweepstakes. Of course, Les BouleS are out of the running for those candidates.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Joe Dumars has made the final mistake that wiil cause me, a lifelong fan, to abandon the Pistons. The choice of Michael Curry as Head Coach placed Joe's vaunted managerial skills in question. Curry was not an exceptional player, good for a few defensive plays a game. It makes no sense to put a rookie coach in charge of a consistently playoff caliber team. Iverson is at or past his prime and is not worth Chauncy, let alone Chauncy and Antonio. It will be a long winter without the Pistons to watch.

Posted by: wlarry8115 | November 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

so who's in the free agency class at the end of the season? seems like Detroit just freed up $30 Million plus.

Posted by: oknow1 | November 3, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

so who's in the free agency class at the end of the season? seems like Detroit just freed up $30 Million plus.

Posted by: oknow1 | November 3, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

This gives the pistons more scoring options Rip,AI,and Stuckey(a star in the making)I think Dumars feels the pistons can win the eastern conference title with just a little tweaking and this move negates the aqcuisition of Mo Williams by Cleveland, very interesting.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 3, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

This gives the pistons more scoring options Rip,AI,and Stuckey(a star in the making)I think Dumars feels the pistons can win the eastern conference title with just a little tweaking and this move negates the aqcuisition of Mo Williams by Cleveland, very interesting.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 3, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Bosh.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Bosh.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

What are you guys talking about? What are you going to miss in Detroit? Stuckey looks to be the real deal to me. AI could be the sixth man for all I care. It's a brilliant move bc you get a great player albeit on the downside of his career, but he is still hungry for the ring!!!

Plus, your not stuck with Billups' contract for the next couple of years. AI is off the books after this season. Wish the Wiz had the guts to shake things up this summer. Status quo is not always a good thing as you will see with the Wiz this season. Injuries or not!

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 3, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I have to disagree, wlarry8115. The fact that Curry was only a role player has no bearing on his ability to coach. In fact, the conventional wisdom has long been that star quality players tend to make bad coaches because they expect (unreasonably) that everyone who plays for them will be able to execute at the HoF level the way they did. The only superstar player turned coach who's actually succeeded in recent years was Larry Bird, and he got out after 3 years. And he, like Curry, had no coaching experience and inherited a playoff tested veteran roster.

Curry may or may not be a good coach, but the fact that he's unproven doesn't mean he was a bad hire. Only time will tell.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 3, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I think this trade favors Denver, and that its good news for the Wizards and other teams in the East. I've never been a big AI fan because I think that he's a 2 guard in a point guard's body who has put up big scoring numbers to the detriment of team play, cohesion and ball distribution. Because of these shortcomings, he doesn't make the players around him better. My question for the Pistons is, who's going to distribute the ball?

Posted by: rbpalmer | November 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Detroit now has 30+ million coming off the books next year and some talented youngsters in waiting. You don't resign Iverson or Sheed after this year, however there should be enough scoring and total team defense to keep them at the top of the East. Iverson can dish the rock, but so can others on this team including the bigs so he won't have to be the major distributor. This is a move by a GM who not only is taken care of the now but the future also.

Posted by: jeffjh67 | November 3, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Chauncey Billips and Antonio McDeyes were two of my favorite players. I will miss them. Allen Iverson hasn't won anything. Denver will surely benefit...

Posted by: Bigmack46 | November 3, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

It's all about the expiring contract of AI. Next year Dumars will be exc. of the year.

Posted by: kfrazec | November 3, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Pistons are planning and retooling in preparation for the future, while Les BouleS were and are content with more of the same.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Pistons are planning and retooling in preparation for the future, while Les BouleS were and are content with more of the same.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Pistons are planning and retooling in preparation for the future, while Les BouleS were and are content with more of the same.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

SkinzNWiz

Change to what? What coach is out their that you know is going to turn the wizards into champions? What player could the wizards get that will make them champions? We could say KG when he was available. Thats about it. Other than that they need to get healthy at the same time and you will see a team that is just as capable as any other east team. They should have kept Demar Johnson but they had already signed Dee Brown. As for the Chancey for AI trade they both are 32 years old and Detroit has Stuckey which is a younger version of Chancey. What they were missing was a scoring guard. AI and Stuckey will make up for Chancey, they will miss MCDyess more. Should have gotten a draft pick too.

Posted by: gdavis4 | November 3, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Say What??

Posted by: ChinksinTheHizzy | November 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

DC_MAN88

Ok Mr. GM and Coach. You are the GM of the wiz, what do you do to turn them from a playoff team to a championship team and how long will it take you? Dont give me your wish list like your picking a fantasy league, give us your real league trades, hires, fires and free agent pickups based on the real world NBA. Just curious to see what you would do better other than second guess based on hindsight. I know, you would have fired EJ and hired Larry brown, traded Gilbert for Kobe and you definitely would have convinced KG to come here too and somehow would have manage to sign them all along with the remaining wizards under the cap.

Posted by: gdavis4 | November 3, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

denver has a better team now - the good part about this trade is that i am a bulls fan that gets 2 see more of AI this season - i hope the bulls let hinrich go

Posted by: cjordan3 | November 3, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"DC_MAN88

Ok Mr. GM and Coach. You are the GM of the wiz, what do you do to turn them from a playoff team to a championship team and how long will it take you? Dont give me your wish list like your picking a fantasy league, give us your real league trades, hires, fires and free agent pickups based on the real world NBA. Just curious to see what you would do better other than second guess based on hindsight. I know, you would have fired EJ and hired Larry brown, traded Gilbert for Kobe and you definitely would have convinced KG to come here too and somehow would have manage to sign them all along with the remaining wizards under the cap.

Posted by: gdavis4 | November 3, 2008 4:23 PM "

Been there, done that...

Are you new to this blog?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 3, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I think it's a good move for Denver, they get a real point guard.
It will allow Detroit to play Iverson, Hamilton & Stuckey in combination with Iversion playing either PG or SG.

I don't think Detroit will give up Rip for any of our players, unless it was Caron or Gil. So there's no use wishing how we could trade Songaila, Stevenson, Daniels, Pecherov or McGuire.

Posted by: rickgonz | November 3, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Much as I like AI, Denver definitely got the better end of the stick with Chauncey "Shut 'Em Down" Billups and Antonio "McAdoo Jr." McDyess..Wizards need chairmen of the boards, as Detroit cleaned 'em last game, no way to advance till Unseld is reborn...

Posted by: frak | November 3, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I think this trade is very good for Detroit.

The main reasoning is the cap room as Iverson has an expiring contract. Also, while they are basically the same age, Billups appears to have lost abit more due to his age than Iverson.

I suspect Rip Hamilton will be the next to get dealt.

BTW, in the short run its not a bad for Detroit either. I think a Stuckey/Iverson backcourt would work well. Stuckey can be the defacto PG allowing Ivy to play off guard while on D, Stuckey is long enough to handle most SGs.

While Rip is still there, you could run Rip at the 3 and Prince at the 4 and have a damn good small ball lineup.

Posted by: Dat2U | November 3, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

AI is all about I or rather mememememe. Billips much better team player. Rasheed will never see the ball

Posted by: williamjohnson1 | November 3, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

This trade is a huge win for the Pistons. People who say Detroit got hosed need to take a step back and look at it.

First of all, they improve this season. They will get McDyess back in 30 days after the Nuggets cut him loose. Heck, they dont even need him really because their front court is so stacked.

They get loads of cap space. It is absurd how one of the NBA's best teams will have enough to sign a MAX level free agent. That is just good sound management by the best GM in the business. Can you imagine the Pistons adding a Carlos Boozer this summer? Or waiting til 2010 and adding a Carmelo or Chris Bosh? They would be disgusting.

It also improves them this season. The Pistons have been a jump shooting team for a while, with nobody who can take a guy off the dribble and take games over. Now, they have that guy who can do that. They need a go to scorer like Iverson. Hamilton is a main option for a title team, but he is perfect as the 2nd option.

Detroit made out like bandits.

Posted by: Roman5 | November 3, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

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