Jordan Fired, Tapscott to Take Over (Updated)

The Wizards have relieved Coach Eddie Jordan of his duties. Jordan was informed of the decision this morning around 8 a.m. shortly after he and his wife, Charrisse, handed out Thanksgiving turkeys to the needy at a team-sponsored charitable event. Associate Head Coach Mike O'Koren was also let go.

Ed Tapscott, who had carried the title of Director of Player Development but traveled with the team and essentially served as an extra assistant coach, takes over on an interim basis. The team is practicing right now.

The Wizards are off to a 1-10 start and hit rock bottom with Saturday night's 122-117 loss to a short-handed Knicks squad that was without its two leading scorers and used seven players. The Wizards rank near the bottom of the league in several statistical categories and have only one player (Antawn Jamison) who is performing anything close to a high level.

How much of the poor start can be attributed to Jordan is highly debatable. Injuries to Gilbert Arenas and Brendan Haywood left him without his best player and best center. Veteran guard Antonio Daniels has been limited to six games due to a right knee injury and the rest of the team's veterans -- players like Darius Songaila, Etan Thomas and Andray Blatche -- have performed at a subpar level.


The shooting guard, DeShawn Stevenson, is off to a terrible offensive start. Caron Butler, who was an all-star last season, has been up-and-down so far and is playing nowhere near as well as he did early on last season. The lone bright spots have been rookie center JaVale McGee, who is inexperienced and has a long ways to go defensively, and second-year shooting guard Nick Young, but he's also limited defensively and made crucial mistakes down the stretch of two close games that led to losses.

President Ernie Grunfeld and Tapscott will meet with the media at 2 p.m., so we'll get some more answers then. But right now, it appears that this is a classic example of firing a coach when you can't fire underacheiving players.

Tapscott does not have NBA head coaching experience but he was the CEO of the Charlotte Bobcats from 2003 to 2006 and was the VP of player personnel and basketball operations for the Knicks when Grunfeld ran the team during the 1990s. Tapscott was the head coach at American University in the 1980s.

Jordan, whose contract was not set to expire until after next season, was the longest tenured coach in the Eastern Conference and guided the Wizards to four straight playoff appearances. He compiled a regular season record of 197-224. The 197 victories rank third all-time in franchise history.

By Ivan Carter |  November 24, 2008; 11:44 AM ET
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seriously?

Posted by: T-ROB | November 24, 2008 9:43 AM

Not completely unexpected but still the current situation is Eddie's fault. With the injuries and the current personnel Wiz are doomed for this season anyway...

Posted by: fnralch | November 24, 2008 9:45 AM

Terrible move. Didn't we just sign him to an extension?

Posted by: agenthiro | November 24, 2008 9:45 AM

In a shock a little, but had a feeling something big, whether a trade or coaching change. Hopefully his replacement can teach DEFENSE

Posted by: T-ROB | November 24, 2008 9:46 AM

Meant: NOT Eddie's fault.

Posted by: fnralch | November 24, 2008 9:47 AM

It wasn't Eddie's fault. He's definitely the fall guy here.

Posted by: gregskins | November 24, 2008 9:50 AM

Very dumb move.

Posted by: StLou | November 24, 2008 9:50 AM

I hope that your sources are wrong. I think it's a mistake for them to do that.

Posted by: tgoren71 | November 24, 2008 9:50 AM

WTF? The Wiz have made some bad moves but this is the WORST!

Posted by: Gooddad | November 24, 2008 9:51 AM

This is disgusting!

Eddie was not the problem, it was the players. He got this team to several playoff appearances, but had to deal with injuries to Gilbert, etc. and had young guys like Blache who don't' hustle -- or care -- and Pech who can't play.

I feel bad for Eddie because he didn't deserve this. He's a DC native who did very well, and I'm sorry to see this happen.

This won't help this team at all. The Wizards are really doomed to failure.

Posted by: john24 | November 24, 2008 9:51 AM

I guess it was time. How could they allow themselves to lose Roger Mason, Jr a "true" shooting guard? Gilbert should be next. He's an ego maniacal individual who's only interest is "self". Maybe EJ will learn the next time not to put his faith and job in some nut like Gilbert.

Posted by: 40acres | November 24, 2008 9:52 AM

I can't believe it...especially since Gilbert is a big fan of Eddie. Too bad the Knicks got Mike D'antonio...he would have been a great pick up!

Posted by: uvawahoo | November 24, 2008 9:53 AM

This isn't Eddie's fault. The front office has built this team around Gilbert, and we haven't had Gilbert for the better part of 3 seasons. Plus, by locking up Antawn (maybe getting older, can't play D) for 4 more years, along with Gilbert, we've been handcuffed in free agency and had to settle for signings like Dee Brown and Juan Dixon -- ok players but not guys to take you to next level. This is Ernie's fault, not Eddie's.

Posted by: DCBoudin | November 24, 2008 9:54 AM

They're giving up on the season. There's no other way to read this. All the coaching in the world isn't going to heal Arenas or Haywood. This team hasn't been completely healthy since January '07, yet Jordan's managed to keep them competitive.

Posted by: Tempy_McJobhunt | November 24, 2008 9:56 AM

now if only we can get rid of Abe Pollin

Posted by: NFeKPo | November 24, 2008 9:59 AM

Injuries and FA losses were not EJ's fault, poor coaching decisions and bad rotations are. It's time for a new guy to man the ship. If it's not one of the asst coaches then I hope EG will get someone who can inspire the young players and pleeassse no more of the "small ball".

Posted by: Dave381 | November 24, 2008 10:00 AM

40 acres, Roger Mason wanted to leave. With Arenas, Daniels, Young and Stevenson, there weren't going to be many minutes for Mason here. SA offered him a larger role. And anyway, that's a GM decision, not a coaching decision. If you felt like someone deserved to lose their job over Roger Mason - a ridiculous notion to begin with -- it would be Grunfeld, not Jordan.

Posted by: Tempy_McJobhunt | November 24, 2008 10:00 AM

Hey Losers, Thanks for getting a good man fired. Not maybe you will play ball as if you would like to win. Hopefully this will allow McGee to play major minutes.

Posted by: lemekdivine | November 24, 2008 10:00 AM

This was unfair to Eddie. The team has been hurt for the past three seasons and has overachieved. The problem is that after a while players just tune the coach out. They just need a new voice even if the new voice is going to preach the same thing, DEFENSE!

Posted by: seriesoftubescleaner | November 24, 2008 10:00 AM

RIDICULOUS! Come on Ernie...Eddie was/is not the issue. Eddie will land somewhere and hopefully he comes back and drills the Wizards.

Posted by: D87DG | November 24, 2008 10:02 AM

Is Tapscott the interim head coach, or is he definitely the new head coach in a full-fledged, "permanent" sense?

Posted by: joe_sill | November 24, 2008 10:03 AM

Mixed emotions for me. I really liked
Eddie because he was able to bring some excitement back to the Wizards and also get us in the playoffs.

However, that was only if Gilbert was healthy and you had Haywood in at the 5. With those pieces gone, Eddie never showed he was able to adapt.

Usually when a coach gets fired it is because he has lost the team. Who knows how many visits Ernie got in his office from players over the years, and not just this one, questioning their roles and minutes with this team.

Eddie's sub's often made no sense, his defensive sets that he played made no sense, his unwilliness to develop young talent might have been his biggest downfall.

I remember one poster saying that Eddie's coaching job in that NY Knicks game was like Eddie was doing everything he could to get himself fired. Playing Songalia almost the whole half when he had McGee, AB, Opec, and Etan on the bench made totally no sense.

Eddie is the type of coach who has to have "everything in place". What that shows is he is an average coach at best but a real good coach when he has all of his parts.

People will say this is unfair because Gilbert is out, but lets not forget he still has two all stars on that team. At least 4 of the 10 losses were due to bad coaching and nothing else.

Sorry it had to end like this for Eddie because I really liked him as the coach, but after that Knicks game I was ready to not look at anymore games because I saw Eddie was never going to change his ways.....

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 10:04 AM

Not all Eddie's fault, but it is easier to fire the coach then fire the players. If the guys started to tune EJ out then the move had to be made. I wish him well.

Posted by: akmed0 | November 24, 2008 10:04 AM

EG needs to get fired....it's his personnel decisions that have caused this debacle.

Sorry to see Eddie go... he kept this team competitive even with so many injuries over the past few years.

Posted by: CapManJ | November 24, 2008 10:04 AM

"now if only we can get rid of Abe Pollin"

Hear, hear!

Posted by: something1 | November 24, 2008 10:05 AM

Just remember the Pre EJ era. This is not his fault.

Posted by: Hibachi022tb | November 24, 2008 10:06 AM

EG is next. Told you all this was coming last year. Its actually all EG's fault he probably just made this move to save his job. This is what happens when you sign players to contracts they don't deserve.

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:06 AM

Good call signing Gilly....Franchise ruined for the next 6 years been saying it forever

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:07 AM

do you think benching caron butler the other night had anything to do with this, he couldnt of been happy about being benched

Posted by: billy12 | November 24, 2008 10:08 AM

Ed Tapscott? LOL

Posted by: rockbroker | November 24, 2008 10:08 AM

EJ sucks he completely deseves this. Hasn't developed any of our draft picks and has the worst rotation known to man. Eddie Jordan has crippled this team for the past 3 years. I will bet anyone on the site money that he never ever gets a head coaching job ever again. Can't believe anyone would be disappointed about this.

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:09 AM

I hope the people who wanted Eddie fired are happy, because this team is going to SUCK now! Maybe some of you can do a better job.

Posted by: Gary22 | November 24, 2008 10:10 AM

I don't blame EJ for injuries. I agree with Dave: POOR COACHING AND SUBSTITUION PATTERNS (see milwaukee bucks game and giving up a 14pt lead). His subs patter is horrid and is obvious to the naked eye. Also, how in the world is d. stevenson starting? Can't score and has the worst shot selection in the league...and taunted labron and does the stupid hand in the face thing...c'mon that's on eddy for starting him over young. Also, until 3 games ago he started Etan. Lovely guy, horrible player. Ever notice on his rebounds he is so busy swinging his arms around as he cradles the ball in stead of advancing it more quickly. Also, i don't think i have ever actually seen him throw the ball out of the middle once he gets it. Eddy missed all of this!!! Nice guy and likable by players and fans but can't make the most of what he has. 1-10 with 2 all stars? Horrible, horrible, horrible!!!!!!!

Posted by: IZZY3 | November 24, 2008 10:11 AM

What about Avery as the new coach?

Posted by: kenobill | November 24, 2008 10:11 AM

This wasn't his fault. Arenas has been hurt for an eternity. He has a supporting cast that is either not ready yet or is injured. He has another star player that has never understood the meaning of the word defense (Jamison). Horrible decision!

Posted by: croftonpost | November 24, 2008 10:11 AM

There is a reason O'Korn did not get the spot. He might have called sub's the same way Eddie did.

Ayers I am not sure. I am not sure if that was his defense or Eddie's? I think Tabscott is going to let Ayers really run "HIS" defense now.

You will also now see the younsta's get a lot a run. Ernie probably mandated to Tabscott to give them a lot of run. This is what we have been asking for so now we got it.

AJ now has to watch his back for minutes now and maybe someone with sense now will play Songalia at his natural 4 spot ONLY now.......

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 10:12 AM

Well, there goes the season!!!!

Posted by: djanifer | November 24, 2008 10:12 AM

Wait, there are actually people that still care about this joke of a sports franchise? Their owner wants you to think they're going to make the playoffs, only to pull the rug out from underneath you. He gets a team that looks like it should make the playoffs, but an injury will shatter that dream. He's been doing it for years people. I, for one, gave up on these guys back at Capital Centre. Why waste my money on a team that is mediocre at best.

They've had all those lottery picks and what's come of it? The Caps had all those "lottery" picks and they're looked at as a contender by some in their league. They have a quality team that's had their fair fare of injuries this year, but they haven't tanked it. They're still in first in their division, aren't they?

Posted by: dj1123 | November 24, 2008 10:12 AM

The albatross is around Ernie's neck.

I don't think Eddie was a particularly great coach, but this is a rebuilding move with a team that is NOT in rebuilding mode.


No marquee big man on roster = Ernie's fault.

$111 mill to Gilby's gimpy knee = Ernie's fault.

Atrocious talent/depth off bench = Ernie's fault.

Posted by: p1funk | November 24, 2008 10:12 AM

"I hope the people who wanted Eddie fired are happy, because this team is going to SUCK now! Maybe some of you can do a better job."

Suck now????? Can't get any worse what are you talking about.

I personally couldn't be any happier should have happened a long time ago.

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:12 AM

It's about time! Jordan was never Grunfield's man. Tapscott will finish the doomed season, the Wiz will land an unbelievabl;e young coach. The championship just got closer Bulletts fans.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | November 24, 2008 10:13 AM

WOW, I can't believe it!!!

They fired a coach that is 229-278 (almost 50 games under .500) and 8-18 in the playoffs!!

I'm in shock!! Do they not realize he was in FIRST PLACE IN THE EAST FOUR YEARS AGO?!?!?

They are so dumb.

Posted by: Gregors | November 24, 2008 10:14 AM

Unbelievable! the guy dosen't have his franchise player, who is a con-artist by the way, as well as his starting center and he gets canned!!!! Shouldn't Ernie be held accountable for his disaterous signing of Agent c0n, and making no moves to improve this injury depleted roster. What a shame!

Posted by: beigebandit | November 24, 2008 10:15 AM

I hope the people who wanted Eddie fired are happy, because this team is going to SUCK now! Maybe some of you can do a better job.

Posted by: Gary22 | November 24, 2008 10:10 AM

Really, now they're going to suck, after starting 1-10?

Look, I didn't think it was completely Jordan's fault at all, but a 1-10 start with this team, with the schedule they've faced, is simply unacceptable. It's unfortunate that someone has to take the fall, but that's how it goes sometimes.

Posted by: mkremnitzer0 | November 24, 2008 10:15 AM

I hope the people who wanted Eddie fired are happy, because this team is going to SUCK now! Maybe some of you can do a better job.

Posted by: Gary22 | November 24, 2008 10:10 AM

GARY22, Are you KIDDING???!!!!!!...this team is going to suck NOW? How much more "SUCKY" can you get then 1-10? And yes, i could do a better job!!!!

Posted by: IZZY3 | November 24, 2008 10:15 AM

One month from now, when Thomas is still getting his 4 and 3 and Songaila his half a rebound and McGee is getting muscled inside and NY is throwing the ball away and Stevenson and Daniels are still going 4-13 combined, maybe then people will see what the problem is.

It wasn't Eddie Jordan. This franchise is not going to get a better overall coach - despite his faults - than Jordan.

Posted by: SteveMG | November 24, 2008 10:15 AM

This season has "tank" written all over it.

Who are the top 5 picks coming out?

Posted by: p1funk | November 24, 2008 10:16 AM

Happy Birthday to me!

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | November 24, 2008 10:16 AM

Etan Thomas and Antawn Jamison should be next to getting fired!!!

Posted by: clifton3 | November 24, 2008 10:16 AM

All he did was take a bad franchise to the playoffs every year with a top heavy mediocre team. Gil's a top ten player when healthy but that's become a rare occurrence... Jamison gets a quiet double double every game but you don't even know it until you look at the stats... Butler is a hardworking over achiever but he can't carry you for a full season without breaking down... So to me that's a middle of the pack top 3 players and it goes terribly down hill from there. They may be the worse team in the league after you get past the top three guys. And all Jordan did was get them to the playoffs every year. He'll be hired quickly... hopefully he'll hook up with a team with a better front office.

Posted by: etothep37 | November 24, 2008 10:18 AM

Of course it was Eddie's fault. Look at his rebounding, shooting, passing--he doesn't get any of that done. Oh, wait, he's not a PLAYING coach?

Seriously, the Wizards have been weak in the middle forever. They've had some outstanding guys carry them a bit of the way (with some fine coaching by Eddie), but they've never been built to go deep into the playoffs. Now that those key guys are hurt and/or older, there aren't any options for winning. This is Eddie Jordan's fault? What about Ernie? (Not really; this stuff starts and ends with Abe.)

Dumb, dumb, dumb. Get real players and keep the real coach and GM. Oh, and stop running the team, Abe. Wes is gone; you have competent help, now.

Posted by: richardcdouglas | November 24, 2008 10:18 AM

Bring on JTII. Gonna be announced this week.

Posted by: BenzoTim | November 24, 2008 10:18 AM

This was a great move. We won’t see the benefits immediately but this was absolutely the right thing to do. It was his job to motivate his players and he wasn’t getting it done. It was his job to play his best players the most minutes and he wasn’t doing that. You can't make excuses forever. This is the roster he has to coach. It was basically the same roster as last year minus Wood and RMJ. This year he simply wasn’t getting it done and the fans deserve better. At the end of the season we will be able to get a defensive minded coach like Avery, Van Gundy or Tibadu. I like him personally but not as the coach of my favorite basketball team. I wish him luck in the future.

Posted by: dhbond | November 24, 2008 10:18 AM

Sorry to see Eddie go. He's been preaching defense, but when your star player doesn't buy into it, none of the other players will either.

Next on the chopping block is Ernie. Even when healthy, this a team built to lose to Cleveland in the first round. By spending the whole bankroll on players past their peak (Jamison, Gilbert due to injury) and bums like Blatche and Songalia, he has locked this franchise into mediocrity for the next five years.

Posted by: hoos3014 | November 24, 2008 10:18 AM

Finally can't wait til EG gets the axe next. Then finally this team can be run/coached by someone who has a clue what they are doing. I personally can do a better job then EJ and EG.

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:19 AM

Typicall Les Bulletes

Posted by: beigebandit | November 24, 2008 10:20 AM

YYYEEESSS!!! This is the best news since they got rid of Kwame Brown. Eddie has ridden the talents of 3 All-Star players but hasn't helped the team take the next step. This team still has no idea how to play defense, has a very low basketball IQ, and is subjected to ridiculous rotations. All of that is on the coach.

I think that EJ is a solid coach for young teams trying to rebuild (like OKC this year). He instills a positive attitude and fosters teamwork. But once a team gets to the playoffs, they need somebody else cuz EJ isn't going to take them any further.

I'm curious as to why Tapscott and not Ayers was named interim. Interesting. But it really doesn't matter for this year. We're going to tank, get a lotto pick, and come back stronger than ever!

Posted by: LyricalRico | November 24, 2008 10:20 AM

Hey, maybe Gary can have Eddie come out to College Park and lend a hand. Gary can use the help.

Posted by: 6thandD | November 24, 2008 10:20 AM

We are damn sure dead now. Hope all of the Fire EJ posters are happy! Now what???!!

Posted by: ivyleague | November 24, 2008 10:20 AM

Let me revise what I said...This team has NO CHANCE of being any good now. The good 'ole days are here again.

Posted by: Gary22 | November 24, 2008 10:21 AM

DUMB MOVE! Yes I mean't all caps.

Posted by: Rufus711 | November 24, 2008 10:22 AM

Hey why is everyone so riled up about this. Eddie lovers - guess what - he gets to keep a large amount of that money they just signed him to. And after a year on ESPN, TNT, etc. he will Coach again.
Eddie haters - he coached the team he had. His game plan never revolved around defense and he had a log jam of scorers. And nary a defender. Shock that Clevland lay waste to them. Furthermore how do you coach Arenas and all his self-esteem issues. Change is good but this change means Grunfield is now on the clock. This season will be considered awash so he could be fired this time next year. Did anyone really think the Wizards would ever be more than a speed bump in the NBA.

Posted by: Hank4 | November 24, 2008 10:22 AM

In the beginning u all r sayin fired jordan! but when he got fired, u all say its disgusting...WTF!

Posted by: forbid | November 24, 2008 10:23 AM

For all of the folks saying this EG's fault what games have you been watching. If he did not sign Gilbert everyone would have been saying "here we go again the Wizards are cheap that why we will never win anything"....... blah blah blah...!!1

He had no choice but to resign him. As for AJ he is a 20 and 10 guy who is a nice player. Yea, maybe Ernie might have overpaid for him; but Abe mandated Ernie to do it. Abe is Ernie's boss so he has to do what the boss says.

What some of you folks are failing to see is Eddie was losing games playing his "veterans" and not the youngsta's. If he was losing games and giving major minutes to AB, McGee, NY and DMac he would still be here coaching.

Nobody would have been mad at him because everyone know he was playing youngsta's. But no, Eddie did not want to do that and it ended up costing him his job.

Plus that crazu defensive set he played was a joke. Not once did he ever try to change it. You can not play those Wizard "VETERANS" using a rotating double down defensive set.

Everyone on the starting five except McGee and Brown are slow of foot including Caron. Caron plays passing lanes not his man. Stevenson is over hyped. He is an average man defender at best.

That is when Eddie should have adapted and just played straight man to man defense. He never did that. I bet you there will be new energy now on defense. Ayers will really run the defense now.

AB, McGee, DMac and NY will not have to look over their shoulders anymore after they make one mistake. Just watch what happens. This is Gibbs and the skins in basketball now.

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 10:24 AM

Can we can an update on the selection of Tapscott. Why promote a first year guy over all of EJ assistants?

Posted by: BC1963 | November 24, 2008 10:25 AM

Guys, this is good. EJ was never going to take us to a championship and he's not great at developing big men. Now we can get a coach who emphasizes defense. It's good that Ernie finally gets to pick a coach (which he didn't get to with EJ) and find the kind of players he thinks are good, not ones that fit the system. I predict Jamison, Etan, Songalia and maybe Haywood will all be traded and/or bought out between now and next summer.

Posted by: reubensandwich | November 24, 2008 10:25 AM

I repeat...

THIS SEASON HAS OFFICIALLY BECOME A "TANK".

THE ONLY RELEVANT QUESTION IS THIS:

WHO ARE THE TOP 5 PROSPECTS, AND ARE ANY OF THEM MARQUEE BIG MEN?

Posted by: p1funk | November 24, 2008 10:26 AM

Are you people serious??? Phoenix made a coaching change, Dallas made a coaching change, Detroit made coaching change... all teams that have enjoyed incredible amounts of regular season and playoff success. EJ was fired because he was stubborn. Somebody explain to me why Etan gets minutes. Pech can't play because the coach won't play him. hopefully Tapscott has a post-up play or two in his playbook. What offense does he run?? Exactly! It's stupid to know what offense a team runs. Hopefully he can implement some of that 90's Bulls, Knicks or Heat defense. Not Eddie's fault puhleeze!

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | November 24, 2008 10:26 AM


As a "Fire Eddie Poster" let me say to all those who are questioning if we are happy. The answer is YES!!!!! Very happy!! Like another great American said recently, "This is change we can believe in"

Posted by: dhbond | November 24, 2008 10:27 AM

Even though he did some good things in his time here, I think it was becoming apparent that some of his message was starting to be tuned out. Can't blame him for the injuries but in the NBA, coaches usually have a 3-5 year window before they need to either a) move on or b) get a new group of players. Looks like the Wiz went option a...now only if they hadn't re-signed Arenas, they could actually conduct a real rebuilding effort

Posted by: Fuzzy21 | November 24, 2008 10:27 AM

What a hoot. I suspect moves like this seldom produce a dramatic turnaround. If you're going to replace a coach, you should do at the end of the previous season, or no later than early in training camp. What's Ed Tapscott going to do different?

Be interesting to look at previous examples of early-season firings in the NBA over, say, the past ten or twelve seasons. Somebody cited the George Karl hiring in Denver a few years back. Are there other examples of big gains?

And the Denver media is now convinced Karl is the reason the team is failing. Good thing Alan Iverson was around to trade, or Karl would be gone, too.

Is it rude to point out that the coaches brought in to 'fix' things are the same ones who were fired elsewhere for not being able to fix things?

It's a business move. Abe Pollin is nervous about the fans. I don't blame him -- it's a terrible start. Maybe the players will feel guilty about getting Eddie canned, and play harder.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 24, 2008 10:28 AM

I feel bad for Jordan. People have made good points about him failing to adjust with the personnel he has, but... How does a team compete when your main "go to" guys are Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison? I love those guys to death, but come on! Let's get some perspective here. They are not exactly 'Melo and AI (now Chauncey). Its difficult to win with two all-stars and no one else.

With Arenas out, beyond Caron and Antawn, the Wiz roster is really comprised of average (if that) role players.

At the very least, Jordan should get credit for turning Brendan Haywood in to a somewhat serviceable pro center after years of futility.

Posted by: ussamsarmy | November 24, 2008 10:28 AM

This move is undoubtedly only the first part of a bold strategy to address two glaring needs on the team. Antonio Daniels becomes the new coach, and Fast Eddie Jordan becomes the new point guard!

Posted by: dzl1 | November 24, 2008 10:30 AM

Yeah,
SERIOUSLY!

I mean, EJ seemed like a nice guy and was surely a natty dresser, but an NBA coach has to be able to make lineup changes to create favorable matchups (i.e. not putting Juan Dixon in to score 10 when Nate Robinson will torch him for 15) and timely in game adjustments (like stepping up pressure beyond the arc when the other guys are shooting lights out).

Is Pat Riley available?

Posted by: toneye | November 24, 2008 10:30 AM

It is very sad that a team that struggled to make the playoffs for 20 years fires a coach who took them to 4 playoffs in 5 years he was here gets fired his first bad year when his 111 million dollar player and his only good big man are hurt. This was a horrible move and only epitimizes what Wizards basketball has become in the last 20 years. As soon you do get a good coach you fire him first chance you get. What a joke, I am serioulsy going to find a new team to root for, At least until Abe Pollin is gone. This is truly pathetic and embarrasing for him to be fired. I feel bad for him and at the same time Im happy for him that he gets to move on from this joke of a team.

Posted by: dolina531 | November 24, 2008 10:31 AM

I've thought for years that Jordan was given too much credit for getting the Wizards to the playoffs. Grunfeld should have been given most of the credit. How many years are you going to talk about defence with no results. Plus, I've never been able to figure out his player substitutions, especially with the bigs. To hell with the interim coach. Go out and hire Avery Johnson. He will teach them to play defense!

Posted by: georgerados | November 24, 2008 10:31 AM

Is Pat Riley available?

Posted by: toneye | November 24, 2008 10:30 AM

Riley is only available if we have Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant and Chris Paul on the roster.

Posted by: p1funk | November 24, 2008 10:32 AM

FINALLY....To all you Jordan supporters, I have a question. Even without Gilbert, is this really the second worse team in the league? It was time to go, the team just wasn't listening any more, and Eddie definitely wasn't getting the best out of his players. There is plenty of young talent along with a nice mix of veterans to have an at least average squad. 1 and 10 IS NOT AVERAGE!

Posted by: JamesJ3 | November 24, 2008 10:32 AM

All the people who are angry about this please tell me what was so great about Eddie Jordan?? He clearly lost the team and runs the worst rotation ever.

Also he is 50 games or more under 500 during his time here, he is 8-18 in the playoffs, and we are 1-10. Why in the world would you keep this guy especially after that press conference the other day.

So HAPPY!!!!!! ABOUT TIME!!!! Can't wait for EG to go next...he deserves it for all those pathetic contracts he has handed out.

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:34 AM

Now the Wiz have a chance to go into the playoffs with 3 rested all-stars, a productive bench, and momentum.

The new coach just needs to win 6 of the next 11 to turn the tide in the right direction.

He can start tomorrow by starting Dixon, Young, McGee, Jamison and Butler, and demanding that EG sign a decent point guard at least to a 10 day contract as Daniels is given time to completely recover.

Posted by: Izman | November 24, 2008 10:34 AM

The people who don't follow this team closely think this situation isn't Eddie's fault. They read the occasional headline, but have no idea about what is really going on. Ignore them. These are facts:

-Eddie restored the team to credibility, by coaxing career years out of some of his players and managing to hold everything losely together

-Eddie is a local guy, and a classy guy, and deserves our appreciation for the effort

-Eddie's defensive system (scramble scramble scramble!) never worked, nor did his Princeton offense

-Eddie has shown a tendency to use rotations that, frankly, leave people who follow basketball speechless

-Eddie's teams NEVER get it done in the playoffs

I love you Eddie, and your bar tab is always on me, but you couldn't get it done with this team. Best of luck.

Posted by: bryc3 | November 24, 2008 10:35 AM

If they bring Craig Esherick with him I love it.


Bring on JTII. Gonna be announced this week.

Posted by: BenzoTim | November 24, 2008 10:18 AM

Posted by: rbdsmittydc | November 24, 2008 10:35 AM

EJ is a good college coach at best..I always thought he was professional in his approach but as has been stated above his substitution patterns were not the best...

Also, even without Gil, this team should not be 1 and 10. The losses to the Knicks were a sign that it was time for him to go.

Arenas now has to come back from injury and prove his worth...

Posted by: bubb5225 | November 24, 2008 10:35 AM

What was needed was not "fire the coach" but
"fire the team". Since this couldn't be done with guaranteed contracts, Eddie had to go, as an apparent improvement.
JT2, even as a consultant, would be a wonderful idea, he not only knows how to choose centers, but also how to coach them.
What's the over and under now, 25?

Posted by: lrmc623 | November 24, 2008 10:36 AM

Finally Abe Pollin read my comments to fire the other Jordan. He just did not perform well and was frequently out-classed. It did not help that we have no true PG. Hopefully arenas will work on his passing game before he comes back...Too bad Jordan lasted this long..we could've gotten D'Antoni.

Posted by: jercha | November 24, 2008 10:37 AM

Just read the post from BulletsFever. He has covered it with 100% accuracy. Good post.

Posted by: spoole916 | November 24, 2008 10:38 AM

Has Uncle Abe lost his mind? Eddie Jordan was not the problem here. He's a GREAT coach, and he was just breakin' the colts.

Some other team is going to hire Jordan -- today was THEIR lucky day.

Posted by: FergusonFoont | November 24, 2008 10:38 AM

Now that Eddie os gone Juan Dixon better never step on the court again. That man thinks he is still at MD someone needs to tell him to pass the ball and actually Play D quit going for steals. He shouldn't even be on the roster...another pathetic move by EG.

Everyone thank Gilly and EG for this firing and the team sucking

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:38 AM

I should wait for the announcement from the team. I hope it is this kind "He is a fine coach, and his ability was not the problem. However sometimes in this business a team needs a fresh voice to get them going, and so we made a change."

EJ is very likable. I'll probably follow him and root for him a bit wherever he lands. Hey, if Phoenix can get rid of D'Antonio, I guess anyone can go.

Posted by: etin | November 24, 2008 10:38 AM

Next, trade Antonio Daniels and Stevenson!

Posted by: ivyleague | November 24, 2008 10:39 AM

When is just getting into the playoffs good enough. We have two all stars on this team. Eddie Jordan did the best job he could and I really like the guy but it just looked like the players stopped responding to him. Sometimes you have to shake things up. We will never be good until we learn how to play defense hopefully the next coach can fix that problem. Here's to crossing my fingers and hoping for something better.

Posted by: okabiro | November 24, 2008 10:41 AM

I can hear Kornheiser now, the curse of "Les Boulez."

Sorry to see Jordan go. He was a class act. What was Grunfield supposed to do, wait until the Wizards were 1-12 or 2-15?

Posted by: JohnnyU2Berry | November 24, 2008 10:42 AM

I cannot believe I hear so many people commenting on a poor substitution pattern. Substitution pattern? Substitute with WHAT EXACTLY? Did ya want Eddie to suit up and play? Come on. The Buzzards roster is one of the worst in the NBA. How about a wannabe superstar that thinks so little of his teammates that he waited until the end of summer to have his friggin' surgery?

Eddie Jordan is a class act. He is someone that all of us should be proud of. He's done what he was expected to do - coach poor talent up to playoff level. I mean come on - Brendan Haywood? Etan Thomas? Andre Blatche? Pecherov? what the heck are they exactly because they're certainly not professional basketball players. And Stevenson? Misses 20 shots and hits one 3 and thinks he's got a hot hand? Eddie should be commended for what he accomplished with this team of pirates!

Posted by: BenThere | November 24, 2008 10:42 AM

Might be a good move for the Wizards. Hello Avery Johnson!!!
Intence player and coach, lead the Mavs to a one seed in the playoffs (that means at least a 3 seed in the east) The players will respect him.

Posted by: Bigmon411 | November 24, 2008 10:43 AM

How can you fire a guy when the team sucks? It's not Jordan's fault. Grunfeld should be held accountable. No moves were made to make this team any better. When Brendan Haywood is your best inside player, you have serious issues. Gilbert is not worth the money, he's never going to be healthy again. McGhee is going to be a stud. Blatche is on the verge of becoming a bust, Daniels is not a starter, neither is Stevenson and Jamison still can't play defense. Your best player is Butler by far. Eddie, you did the best you could with what you had. This team is a joke and is unwatchable!

Posted by: Toochilled | November 24, 2008 10:44 AM

someone wrote: "This season has tank written all over it. Who are the top 5 picks coming out?"

If we're lucky enough to get a decent lottery pick, it would probably be from this group:
Blake Griffin: very talented 6'9" PF. Good rebounder, good scorer.
Hasheem Thabeet: 7'3" shotblocker.
James Harden: 6'5" SG, shooter/slasher.
Brandon Jennings: PG, all speed. Only 6 feet, though. Playing in Europe.
Demar DeRozan: SG. Slasher. Jumping guy.
BJ Mullens: Huge center. Offensive type.
Stephon Curry: 6'. You know him.
Damion James: 6'7" wing guy. Strong. Not much outside shooting.
Austin Daye: 6'10" beanpole. Think Anthony Randolph last year.
Ricky Rubio: 6'3" PG, latest Euro sensation. If he comes out. Has not yet heard of defense, but otherwise talented.

Of course, they're all young & raw. Nobody as NBA-ready as Rose, Beasley, or Mayo.

It's early yet, so somebody could blossom. But it doesn't look like an instant get-well draft.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 24, 2008 10:44 AM

Tapscott seems like a nice guy and I wish him well, but the problem is the lack of talent. When the players are at a loss to explain why they lose games in the fourth quarter, they're missing the obvious reason: the other teams have better players, who when they need to --ie., in the fourth quarter--can put the Wizards away with ease.

Best of luck to EJ who deserved better than this half-baked team. I frankly think he deserves another shot as head coach of a team with sufficient talent to get the job done.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | November 24, 2008 10:45 AM

Hopefully Ed Tapscott is the Wizard of Oz and he can give AJ some courage so he might play some defense and bang into someone to get a rebound. AB a heart so he will play with some passion and not become the next Kwame Brown and please give Gil a brain….maybe he will take the time to learn how to play the game of basketball. It’s not that hard pass the ball and play some defense. Hopefully he will know how to play CB and the rookies the right way and the garbage that’s on this team (we all know who they are ET, DS squared, AD, JD, DB) throw them out with EJ.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 24, 2008 10:49 AM

I don't think that the plight of the Wizards is Eddie Jordan's complete fault. It is everyone's fault: management, coaching staff and the players. To revolve your game and your hopes around one player is absolutely ridiculous. These players are paid entirely too much money to play as embarrassingly as they have. I hate that Mr. Jordan was the fall guy here...I wish him and his family the best...God bless!

Posted by: ceejay1115 | November 24, 2008 10:50 AM

I agree Eddie Jordan is a very likable guy. And yes, he did take us to the playoffs. We got beat by Lebron, not Cleveland, 2 years a row. WTF!!! We had 3 superstars to their 1. Come on. You have got to beat them. Hopefully Tapscott preaches defense instead of that crappy Princeton offense

Posted by: gembrown | November 24, 2008 10:50 AM

I think Avery Johnson could be a great coach for the team. If he can not get them to play defense, then the whole roster needs to be gutted.

Posted by: verbal8 | November 24, 2008 10:51 AM

Thay need to FIRE Abe Pollen He has scrwed this team for as long as I Can remember. He always has been dumb as hell and controling and got rid of some of the best players in the NBA. Also No one in their right or wrong mind would even think of taking Areans Their are right AGENT ZERO that is he's a big ZERO!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mlhkfh | November 24, 2008 10:51 AM

ABE hired Ed Tapscott because he is already on the payroll. There is no way Cheap Abe is going to go out and pay another coach since he still has to pay EJ. Didn't they just sign this guy to an extension? It starts at the top people.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 24, 2008 10:52 AM

Wow I really didn't think that it would come to this for EJ. He did a great job getting this team to make it to the playoffs and the injuries that he had to deal with made it a little tough. On the radio this morning Steve Szaban said this that the most dissappointing loss over the weekend was the Wiz losing to the Knicks because the Knicks had just made a trade and were down to seven players more short handed than the Wiz and they won the game. So I think that sealed EJ's Fate. But I guess that making the playoffs four years straight doesn't account for anything. Before EJ got here the Wiz had not made the playoff since 97-98 season. This clearly isn't EJ's fault but those of us who call ourselves true sports fan know that when situations like this arise you know that the HC or Manager in MLB will be the first guy to fall. So this is nothing new for everyone. But thanks EJ for what you bought to the Wiz. I just hope that they are talking to someone who can get this team together Ed Tapscott? I know he's not the answer. Maybe Avery Johnson may be interested in the job. But I do know one thing that we need and that is DEFENSE

Posted by: donaldtaylor | November 24, 2008 10:53 AM

thank god. all you nitwits saying this wasn't eddie's fault can now watch what happens when the best players are put on the court, in a normal rotation. and for anyone who doesn't understand what I mean, hopefully you caught ESPN's broadcast of the Wiz - Rockets game last week, where we got to hear what a real coach (Van Gundy) thinks of Jordan's bizarre coaching. Van Gundy, after Etan was inserted into the game in the second half after not playing at all (and even though Blatche was having his best game of the season), "It's very rare that you see that in the NBA when the game is not a blowout; where a player plays in the second-half who wasn't in the first half."

and Ivan, I know you continually supported Eddie's blaming everything on the players and conceded along with him that we are one of the worst teams in the league, you can watch what happens too.

Posted by: tmilt27@aol.com | November 24, 2008 10:54 AM

The Wizards' player personnel basically has has not changed that much over the past three years. Whereas other teams, especially in the Wizard's division, have improved via free agency. Eddie has made some bad coaching decisions, but the overall fault is the players. Haywood is a big missing part of the team. I believe Arenas will never be the player of a couple of years ago. Jamison lacks some defense, but he is a work horse just like Butler. Nothing will change with the Wizards until they acquire better players. They need a strong power forward. Need to let Stevenson and Blache go. Also, Eton is overpaid and the big foreign guy is a 7 foot three point shooter. Get them outta here.

Posted by: gacbone | November 24, 2008 10:55 AM

This was the worst decision that could be made!!! Does Gil even want to be here now? Who are the likely candidates for a full time replacement? I'd hate to think Van Gundy since he has a strong relationship with Grunfeld

Posted by: chadnclinton | November 24, 2008 10:55 AM

After hearing the news, I checked for reaction from other news outlets and realized Ivan was the first to break this. Great job Ivan, especially with this story. but also for the blog in general.

Posted by: docooke | November 24, 2008 10:56 AM

Can we can an update on the selection of Tapscott. Why promote a first year guy over all of EJ assistants?

Posted by: BC1963 | November 24, 2008 10:25 AM

BC1963 - Because EJ's assistants are "EJ's assistants". They would probably run the same rotational calls and defensive sets, thus what would be the point in firing Eddie.

Tabscott is a Ernie guy. Ernie wanted to see his young guys get more minutes. He wanted to see AB start to develop more. Under Eddie, AB for whatever reason could not get Eddie's confidence.

Let me give you an example of what a coaching change can do for a player. May I spell out the name NATE ROBINSON. Nate's game did not change over night. What he is doing now is what he has always done.

But guess what, for whatever reason Ishaih Thomas did not like his game and put a leash around his neck (i.e. EJ on AB). Now enter D'Toni who show he believes in Nate and now you see what Nate is doing.

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 10:57 AM

I feel for him but it's about time. Eddie seems to have problems this year knowing when to sub and when not to sub. He tends to leave his starters in far too long when they are not perofrming.

The team has talent but they need the right coach to bring out that talent.

Posted by: 65er | November 24, 2008 10:58 AM

Avery Johnson can coach. Wiz should sign him while he's still available. Yes, EJ is the fall guy.

Posted by: cerona | November 24, 2008 10:59 AM

Love Eddie and all but this squad should not have the worst record in the East. It's a bottom line business and Eddie wasn't getting it down. In fact, his substitution pattern bordered on erratic at a time when the team needed to be consistent.

Playing Darius at center during critical stretches of close games in the 2nd half makes no damn sense!! The guy averages a paltry 1.1 rebounds/game and he's manning the 5 spot?!? Hey let's put Dominic McGuire at point guard maybe that'll stop the bleeding.

Posted by: elfreako | November 24, 2008 11:00 AM

Is Wes Back?? Grunfeld needs to take responsibility for handcuffing ED JORDAN.Jamison only getting older not better.Get something for him while he still has value.Lose with Youth.It,s not Coaching it,s personnel and injuries.EDDIE DESERVES BETTER

Posted by: OxPrince | November 24, 2008 11:00 AM

never cared for pollin after he traded earl monroe to the knicks. maybe he can bring back gene shue to coach..better yet maybe he can bring back wes to play center, coach and be gm.

Posted by: fkterp | November 24, 2008 11:01 AM

THE BEST THING THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN TO EDDIE JORDAN!!!!!GET THE HEVEN AWAY FROM ABE POLLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mlhkfh | November 24, 2008 11:01 AM

Its actually all EG's fault he probably just made this move to save his job.

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:06 AM

Don't think for one minute that Pollin didn't approve, or even initiate, this move.

Posted by: rbpalmer | November 24, 2008 11:01 AM

Sooo, in the opinion of many on the blog, coaches should never get fired because they don't miss shots, or make turnovers, or fail to play defenese. Please.

It's sad to see Eddie go. He did a lot for this franchise, but every coach wears out his welcome.

But I think it's interesting that Eddie Tapscott would be the interim. He never impressed me when he was on Comcast, and I don't think he's ever been a coach, not even an assistant.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | November 24, 2008 11:01 AM

This whole mess isn't EJ's fault alone. But something had to happen. You can't fire all the players and the GM certainly isn't going anywhere. So that leaves the head coach.

Sorry to see him go though.

Posted by: tundey | November 24, 2008 11:02 AM

Horrible. Just horrible. Obviously, in sports the coach often gets all the blame when it's undeserved. But this bad. 1-10 is absurd. But firing Eddie after the hand he's been dealt this season? Bad Bad move. I hope this isn't the beginning of the march to becoming the Wizards of old. And who takes over...Tapscott?! C'mon. I have a feeling this may only get worse. Very sad to see Jordan go.

Posted by: paddythatch | November 24, 2008 11:02 AM

When EJ made said "this team is built around Gilbert Areneas" to explain away a loss, I knew his days were numbered if they didn't play any better. He should NEVER have made that statment in the press as he did. He tried to cover his tracks by explaining what he meant by that statement the next day, but I think the damage was already done. I truly liked Eddie and thought most times he did a great job but..........

Posted by: ivyleague | November 24, 2008 11:04 AM

Hate to see Eddie go. I agree Eddie's rotations at times were questionable. But in his defense, this year, who off the bench can you count on?? Nick Young, JaVale McGee, and Juan Dixon...everyone else is suspect at this point. He was trying to find combinations that work. Eddie has always had trouble finding those combinations in the beginning of the season. As the season progresses, he has in the past found rotations that work. The problem this year has been defensive rebounding! We can't get a defensive rebound to save our lives!! Second chance points have killed us. The absence of Brendan Haywood has been huge. The team was built around Gil for better or worse. I think Eddie deserved to at least be judge by what the team did with it's best player on the court.

Now what??? Where do we go from here?? Why now??? This couldn't have waited...is this move going to improve our record this season?? NO! Panic move Ernie...Eddie was not the problem.

Posted by: MYT1 | November 24, 2008 11:04 AM

I'm sad to see EJ go, but he signed his walking papers last week when he said the team is built around Gil. As HC, he must adjust his teams plays to fit the players available. Sub patterns were also confusing. This team is headed for MAJOR player roster changes! EG still should have waited till Gil got back to see what the team would look like. My short coaches list: Tom Thibodeau, Mark Jackson, Eric Snow, in that order. No Little General needed! My starting 5 now: JD, CB3, Young 1, Twan & McGee. No going back now, whats done is done. GO WIZ!!!

Posted by: Hometeamzfan | November 24, 2008 11:05 AM

The Wizards are the worst run major market team in the USA. Not just basketball but all sports franchise in the USA.. They could be making money from Richmond to Baltimore if they ran the organization right. DC is just not a basketball city you say? Bull !!! Look at the ticket sales when the Lakers or the Cavs comes to town or the fan base of local NCAA teams in the area. Name another team in a market this size that is run so badly... From coaching selections to player moves, to marketing the Bullets/Wizards are crap.... Need proof take a look at Detroit... Detroit won world championships with a good front office, a good choice in coach and a mostly Wizards roster.... The Wiz are crap... Least we not forget they shamelessly fired Mr. Basketball himself, Michael Jordan. Say what you want to about if that was right or wrong, but the way it was done spoke volumes for the Wiz organization... Absolute garbage.. Eddie Jordan was one good move in a sea of BS… With the reputation they are building around the league, players, coaches and staff will be avoiding DC regardless of the money on the table….

Posted by: supascience | November 24, 2008 11:05 AM

A few things:

1) I really liked EJ. I thought in the past few years he got the most out of caron, jamison and a few other guys. This year he was plagued with injuries and the ball didn't bounce the WIZARDS way.

- SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE THE BLAME FOR 1-10 START and EJ is the COACH.

2) The sad thing is the wizards have competed in almost EVERY game this season. However, in the last 4 minutes the players he played COULD NOT GET THE JOB DONE.

It was unfortunate because of the circumstances EJ was put under but somethnig has to be done to spark this team.

Posted by: DCSPORTS | November 24, 2008 11:06 AM

Eddie's just the fall guy in the situation, but you can't fire the players. Except for AJ and Caron, the entire team has subpar talent and that falls on EG. He re-signed Gibert and bet the franchise's future on a guy who hadn't played in 18 months. He re-signed DSS and let Mason go this summer. Not Eddie's fault that has only legit bigman BTH got hurt in training camp with no adequate backup.

EG is on the heat seat now and he may have put his crony in as head coach, but eventually he's going to have to answer to the owner for the bad draft picks, poor FA signings, and the fact that this team needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 24, 2008 11:07 AM

What the team is really missing is Haywood in the middle. And when Haywood went down, EJ should have started the rookie or Blatche. We let another Jordan set our team years back in development. Hopefully it's not too late to salvage the year. We have some really talented young players just wasting away on the bench

Posted by: gembrown | November 24, 2008 11:08 AM

Obviously Tapscott is a stop gap move. And a signal that all of EJ's assistants will be fired too.

The wizards may not have the best front office but they are far from the worst. And if you think people are going to drive down from Richmond to see a Wizards game, no matter how well run they are, you are dreaming.

Posted by: tundey | November 24, 2008 11:08 AM

I have mixed feelings about this. I've always been an Eddie Jordan fan, and I'm not sure he should be the scapegoat for this 1-10 start.

That said, does he deserve blame for the poor defensive performance the Wizards have had throughout his tenure? Possibly. And his player rotations - this season in particular - have left me scratching my head. No consistency whatsoever. It's possible Grunfeld is also disappointed in Jordan's ability to develop the younger players.

Anyways I wish Jordan the best of luck elsewhere. He's a good coach.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 24, 2008 11:09 AM

Everyone knew the season was a bust when they signed Gilbert to all that $$$ and he wasn't ready in begin of season. If they stayed out the clubs so damn much they might actually get some wins. I'm not saying the whole team, but Andray Blatche stays in the clubs more than the bartenders. I see why he sucks on the court now because he's too busy partying like some rock star. I saw someone gave a shout for Avery Johnson to end up here. Well that would be great, but these Wizards need General Patton to right this ship....

Posted by: ENJOYA | November 24, 2008 11:11 AM

Here's the inconvenienttruth: Eddie Jordan is a lousy coach! His rotation judgments are by far the worst I've ever witnessed. The other night during critical 4th quarter minutes he didn't bring McGee into the game until the final "45" seconds, after Lee took Darius to the hoop for at least two easy layups. In the previous game, during a critical 3r quarter stretch, he didn't get Butler and Jamison into the game until a 6 point Wizards lead transformed into a 5 point deficit. He can't get them to either rebound or play defense, consistently falling prey to back door passes and allowing uncontested 3s to dead-eye 3-point shooters. I am also a native Washingtonian and I very much took pride in his earlier success but he has no one to blame but himself. His coaching decisions did not add value--he sucked!

Posted by: 4GUDGOV | November 24, 2008 11:12 AM

Has Uncle Abe lost his mind? Eddie Jordan was not the problem here. He's a GREAT coach, and he was just breakin' the colts.

Some other team is going to hire Jordan -- today was THEIR lucky day.

Posted by: FergusonFoont | November 24, 2008 10:38 AM

FergusonFoont - If he was a great coach he would not be 1 and 10 right now. He still has two all stars on the roster.

If that other "lucky" team hires him they better hope they don't have any young talent they want to develop because Eddie strength is not that.

Eddie is a good guy and I took up for him up until that Knick game. It was almost like he was throwing it up in Ernie's face to play Songalia all those minutes playing slow small ball.

And to throw this in for free, Calling out CB like that and benching him was not the way to go. If anything thing he should had been doing the same thing to AJ. Playing with AB's mind in that game along with giving Stevenson way too many minutes sealed Eddie's fate.

This is not the first time Eddie has done these things. Remember he had to be forced by Ernie to go down to North Carolina to "make up" with Haywood because Ernie knew EJ's beef with him had nothing to do about basketball.

Again, Eddie did all this to himself. Ernie probably asked him to play the young guys a little more and Eddie refused. You can tell Eddie was trying to make a point in the NY game by playing Songalia when everyone who ever played basketball at any organized level could see that was the dumbest thing anybody could ever do as a coach.

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 11:14 AM

The team hasn't done anything progressive for the past years so it's time for a change. The veteran players should prove that they can still take this team to the next level this time or else they should also fear for their jobs next. The organization is probably going to make some drastic moves this year.

Posted by: bdunkadunk | November 24, 2008 11:15 AM

This is not his fault!! No vetern leadership off the bench, young wants to be a rooster, Blatche still has gotten that this isnt High School, Not Eddie Fault, All of those guys should be ashamed of themselves, they let Eddie Down he did a great job, Ernie put them together so thats Ernie fault time to make a trade... Better go get Eddie Curry from Ny cuz the wizards are soft inside and he will score. so what about contract trade somebody...and get help fast

Posted by: delonta5 | November 24, 2008 11:15 AM

GREAT move. We should not be 1-10. Yes, we have injuries to key players, but look at the Spurs. They are essentially starting Tim Duncan and trash, and are a .500 team. What's the difference? Coaching.

Posted by: cal1 | November 24, 2008 11:15 AM

According to ESPN they fired Mike O'Koren too.

Posted by: okabiro | November 24, 2008 11:16 AM

Extra on the potential lottery picks:

Expert says you should add to my earlier list:
Greg Monroe: 6'10" PF, all-around type.
Al-Farouq Aminu: 6'81/2" wing player.

Both frosh, both raw. Still no instant-star player in the group -- not yet.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 24, 2008 11:17 AM

Antawn Jamison has turned into MeShawn and TO combined.

The following quote is up there with Gilby's worst quotes of all time.

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"As long as we continue to work hard and continue to believe that we can turn things around, it makes my job easy," said Jamison, the Wizards' captain. "When guys stop playing hard and giving their all is when it becomes difficult for me, but this is a learning curve."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3722783

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 24, 2008 11:18 AM

This was the worst decision that could be made!!! Does Gil even want to be here now? Who are the likely candidates for a full time replacement? I'd hate to think Van Gundy since he has a strong relationship with Grunfeld

Posted by: chadnclinton | November 24, 2008 10:55 AM

First, it doesn't matter what Gilbert wants, he's signed with the Wizards and can't go anywhere. Second, they could do a lot worse than Van Gundy, who at least insists that his teams play defense.

Posted by: rbpalmer | November 24, 2008 11:18 AM

Sad day in Wiz land. I’m really torn on this…how do you fire the coach who has led us to playoffs in 4 straight years after we made it just once in 20 years prior to his arrival? Eddie is the coach who helped turn around this franchise. I don’t think too many guys could have led us the playoffs last year after 0-5 start and losing Arenas for essentially the year and losing Butler for 25 games. And holding him accountable for 1-10 start is not all that fair, considering not many teams could stay competitive after losing their best player and their starting center, and backup point guard, and losing their best player off the bench to free agency. That said, I very seldom question anything Ernie Grunfeld does (letting Blake go is pretty much the only move he’s made that I strongly disagreed with). Ernie finally gets to pick a coach for us—I trust he’ll get us a good one (Tapscott can’t possibly be the long term successor)

Posted by: Barno1 | November 24, 2008 11:26 AM

ok... i've got mixed emotions about this. But if you've watched any of the last four games, you'll see that they lost because of poor coaching. In the loss to Atlanta, they're down 2 with a minute or so left... and who gets the ball... Juan Dixon... huh? in the game against Houston, they're down 1 with 2 minutes left, who gets the ball... Juan Dixon. in both games, juan throws up an ill advised shot rather than regroup and pass it to a veteran... these were obviously drawn out plays. i was so disgusted after the Houston game, that I didn't even watch the New York game... however, i know NY only played 8 guys... and those 8 guys completely outplayed all of the wizards. can't quite blame all of these deficiencies on the players only. bad coaching and rotations are just as much to blame... and i'm a huge eddie jordan fan.

Posted by: jlover5000 | November 24, 2008 11:26 AM

wow. I didn't expect this. Some of it is EJ's fault while a lot of it is EG's. D'Antoni was the best guy to coach a group like we have (all offense, no defense).

This team was built incorrectly if you expect great defense. We all know that. We also all know that our two best players are only all stars because they can score over their larger, stronger counterparts. The problem is that they are regularly outmuscled and offer virtually no defensive resistance.

The only way this team wins is to keep the scores high and EJ failed to take measures to achieve that.

Let's hope that Tapscott does a couple of things:

1. Benches Deshawn for Nick Young

2. Shortens the rotation and allows young players to play through mistakes.

3. Keeps Songaila on the bench since he's not one of our best 10 players.

4. Scraps the present defense.

5. Scraps the Princeton offense.

6. Plays players at their proper positions. Proper means what's best for the team and not the individual. To that end, consider AJ as a sf or a 6th man. Since he's the best rebounder we have, I'd lean toward sf. Also think about using CB as a sg.

7. Put Ayers on notice that either the defense improves or he's next.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 11:27 AM

You can't blame Jordan for the players(or lack of)that he has. I have a feeling there's more to this story, they just picked up EJ's option. It makes NO sense.

EG needs to fire himself.

Totally dumb move.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 24, 2008 11:27 AM

Regardless whether anyone thinks this was justified or not, after all these years all the opposing coaches have figured out Eddie Jordan's offense and defense. Nothing works. Time for a change, time for new practice routines, time for a new offense, time for a new defense.

The Wizards need a creative coach, not one who falls back on his set habits all the time. They need to create mismatches, not adjust to the other team. Play to win, not to avoid mistakes.

Posted by: rickgonz | November 24, 2008 11:28 AM

I just heard Ivan's comments on ESPN. Ivan come on my man you have to give me a break????? It sounds like you are blaming the whole thing on the roster Ernie game Eddie.

You have to be kidding me....???? You should know darn well Eddie's rotational calls make no sense and he lost at least 5 games on not making the right substition calls.

Was Ernie out there trying to show Eddie how he should teach his team to play defense. Ernie even got Tom Tibidou (spelling) to help with our sorry defense Eddie was teaching and what happened? Eddie ran the poor dude out of here.

What happened after that you might ask, Tom Tibidou went to the Celtics and the rest is history. Their defense jumped up three levels higher after he came there.

Was Eddie threated by Tom Tibideu, or better yet did his stubborness have him think he did not need any help?

I am just really tried of seeing all of these folks trying to blame everything on Ernie G. Why is it you and all this other folks on here saying Eddie got a raw deal recognizing we still have 2 All Stars?

How many teams can lose their superstar and still say they have 2 more All stars? All this crap about Gil being gone and that is why we were losing is crap. EJ just did not know how to adapt and use the right combinations of players. He had a flawed defensive systeme which he chose on his own not to change.

Ivan, come on man I am disappointed on that report you gave on ESPN. That was not the whole story. Eddie was at fault here alot just like Ernie.

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 11:28 AM

As a season ticket holder, I understand that it is not Eddie Jordan's fault. However it is very obvious that he has lost the players and there is nothing that can be done with their guaranteed contracts. Although some of his moves this year have been suspect, he just does not have the horses and that will not change until Arenas gets back on the court. I think it is now obvious how valuable a healthy Antonio Daniels and Brendan Haywood are to this team especially when Arenas is out. The Wizards payroll is too high to do nothing. Hopefully they will go out and get AVERY JOHNSON to salvage this season!

Posted by: SBSmolen | November 24, 2008 11:29 AM

This is really a sad reflection of accountability. Even though Jordan made some questionnable decisions on rotation he still was not the one to execute. Those BIG contracts have gone to the BIG heads. Sit the veterans down and let the bench play - if the game is s lost at least it is a learning experience. It's sad that Ernie was given a chance to finally get rid of Jordan. I'll miss u EDDIE JORDAN.

Posted by: jvd1 | November 24, 2008 11:30 AM

EJ was a class act. Coaches just start to lose their players after some years without success, and it was obvious EJ had lost his. He was also loyal to his veterans to a fault (EG's problem, too), increasingly erratic with his subbing and too entranced by the Gospel of the Princeton Offense. Despite his faults, EG is the real culprit of the Wizards' woes. Old/injured stars signed to long term deals, a half team of sub-league D-League players, a lack of pure position players... point guard, power forward, etc., no defensive stoppers, or big stud power forward/centers (either too skinny Pech, Mcgee (who will develop), too finesse, Jamison, or too short and slow, Etan/Songalia. You need speed, thunder and power in today's league, and we have none. EG, you're next.

Posted by: SammyT1 | November 24, 2008 11:32 AM

Let's hope that Tapscott does a couple of things:

1. Benches Deshawn for Nick Young

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 11:27 AM

Last week he led the team with 5.8 apg (5th in NBA) and averaged 9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, and 1 steal. And he has reached the 35 mpg mark only twice this season. Better he have the ball than Nick "clown-out" Young down the stretch.

He'll get his 3 point stroke back too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrkaRTwItL0

Posted by: prescrunk | November 24, 2008 11:33 AM

For those Songaila fans who think that he's decent as a PF...

Do you really think he should be getting minutes over McGuire and AB even at the 4? Even Pech is probably better as a 4 than Songaila. McGuire is small for the position but would probably give us better production.

EJ was and is an old school guy who was partial to veterans. Our problem is that our vets weren't always producing. I'm guessing now that there is a directive to play the younguns. I'm also betting we see an uptick in effort. We'll still win 30-35 games thie s year (my preseason prediction) but we'll get noticeably better as the season goes on.
Also, if Gil comes back healthy, he's worth 10 wins alone.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 11:33 AM

Ernie should be fired - include Phil and Steve overhype these BUMS during broadcasts. It makes me sick. Bums like Stevenson, Blatche and Songalia do not deserve any praise!

Posted by: asharma1 | November 24, 2008 11:34 AM

The one win DC got this year was by playing TEAM DEFENSE for 48 minutes! Fans see the results when they don't as well as the 5-7 second offensive possessions where one guy just chucks it from 25 with no one in position to rebound and DC gets fast breaked the other way. That's why DC hasn't won a Title since 1978. Until these adjustments are made, they won't win.

Posted by: Realness1 | November 24, 2008 11:35 AM

They also said that Mike O'kearn got canned too. Is this true?!?!?

Posted by: Bigmon411 | November 24, 2008 11:36 AM

Come on!! Half of these posts are laughable..."there goes the season", "horrible move". Don't look now but the season is passing the Wiz by. Jordan needed to go! His substitutions were horrible and the young guys need to play! Not sure about the deals that were passed out to Gilbert and Antawn, but there are all-stars on the court. The talent that is there is better than one win!

Posted by: nbride30 | November 24, 2008 11:36 AM

I don't think EJ got fired because of the team's record. I think he got fired because of a perception that he had given in to defeat. I am sure it didn't sit well with the FO when he said after a recent loss that the team was built around Gilbert and what he brings, that Caron and AJ needed Gilbert, and that BTH was an essential piece. In other words, "I can't win with the current product." I'm willing to bet that's what got him fired.

Regarding Roger Mason - I wasn't rehashing a few threads back. I was just using his situation as an example of the Wizards' aversion to spending thereby making 2011-2012 irrelevant. However, I am sure that under the current circumstances he would average more than 10-15 minutes if he was here. He plays both ends of the floor and can score the ball better than any guard on the team except maybe Nick Young, who is less consistent than Mason. Mason's having end-of-game plays run for him in SA.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | November 24, 2008 11:37 AM

Even Pech is probably better as a 4 than Songaila...

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 11:33 AM

Yeah and this is Kwame's year. lmfao.

Posted by: prescrunk | November 24, 2008 11:37 AM

It's time to move on. The Princeton O just wasn't working.

Let's look at the bigger picture. Playoff NBA teams are usually crafted around a BPOC (Best Player on the Court) plus 1 or 2 all stars. BPOCs are rare. And if you might have one - like Gil - you gotta lock him up.

Drafting, signing and developing a BPOC is the central job of a GM.

In that light let's give EJ his due. When Gilbert arrived, he was raw but talented looser who was not ready to lead. EJ took him to some Nets playoff games and started to teach him how to be a winner. Gibert grew into a winner under EJs wing. Next step is for Gil and the rest of the cast to go to the next level. We need a new coach for that.

Jordan could go to Memphis or Chicago and start fresh with their young PG talent.

It is time to move on. Good luck EJ, and Thank You for your very real contributions.

Posted by: cballer | November 24, 2008 11:38 AM

Eddie Jordan is not a coach for developing young players. He's a coach that gets efficiency out of his vets. Last year, he was the right guy for the team. This year, with injuries and the new look rotation, he wasn't the guy for this squad. Maybe for once, we'll get a coach that drills it into Blatche's head that he's a PF, not a SG. This is the right move. EJ wasn't taking this team anywhere anytime soon.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 11:38 AM

We'll still win 30-35 games this year.

Posted by: delusional_mark | November 24, 2008 11:33 AM


lmfao. we're the new Miami Freeze of the east.

Posted by: prescrunk | November 24, 2008 11:40 AM

his firing was coming but it should of been later than sooner. Tabscott is a joke and I see us going into full tank mode

join in the discussion here: http://www.wizardsextreme.com

Posted by: WizardsExtreme | November 24, 2008 11:41 AM

Sit the veterans down and let the bench play - if the game is s lost at least it is a learning experience. It's sad that Ernie was given a chance to finally get rid of Jordan. I'll miss u EDDIE JORDAN.

Posted by: jvd1 | November 24, 2008 11:30 AM

Jvd1 - How can you say Ernie was finally given a chance to get rid of Jordan? What did your first line in this statement say? He did not sit the veterans as you suggested, so guess what he got himself fired.

Notice I said "got himself fired"...?? Why would Ernie give him an extension for another year even before the season started if he did not believe in him...??

This is the point everyone here who is trying to blame it on Ernie, including Ivan, are missing.

It is clear he lost the team and had players coming to him complaining about their minutes and how they are being used. Eddie clearly had favorite players who had no business getting the minutes they are getting (i.e. Stevenson, Songalia, and AJ).

Ernie probably had been pleading with Eddie to change his rotations but Eddie being as stubborn as he is refused too.

Folks please remember, they still had 2 ALL STARS!!!!! They are 1 and 10. Eddie is still adjusting to the other teams instead of making the teams adjust to him. Eddie still refused to change his defensive sets!!! Come on, what is it that folks are not seeing.....???? I am lost....???

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 11:44 AM

EJs a good guy, but it sure seems like he lost this team. I would never claim to have a high bball IQ, but even I could see the problems with that NY game--no Caron, no driving the lane, no big men in site.

I even commented to my husband that it looked like Eddie was asking to be fired.

Posted by: lindaloulubbock | November 24, 2008 11:44 AM

Sorry, but I have to agree. Eddie has one of the most bizarre timeout calls, and use of players at critical times I have ever seen. In the last game, all his top players where sitting on the bench while all Houston's top players where on the court. By the time he called a timeout, Houston had tied the game, down from a huge deficit. Jordan just does not understand he does not have the luxury to rest his players the way he does. Not now when you need wins. Again and again down the stretch, his play selections and timeouts have simply been bizarre. And not just this season. His play management really is one I almost never see with other coaches. Why will your top players and the only ones who can score be on the bench during critical times? When I saw that, I thought the Wizards had made a strategic decision to aim for the number one pick in the draft. apparently not. They should aim for that number pick.

Posted by: RickJohnson621 | November 24, 2008 11:46 AM

Not the least bit surprised by the firing. but the fact that they're turning the team over to Tapscott instead of one of the actual assistant coaches is an "interesting" move.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 11:47 AM

If I'm not mistaken, Ed Tapscott has been in management for quite a few years. He was CEO of the Charlotte Bobcats 03-06, interim GM of the Knicks before that after serving as VP (under Grunfeld), and a consultant to the Bucks and Suns prior. His last coaching gig was in 1990 at AU.

I think he was named interim coach to head the cleanup. He knows what to look for, and will have input on which coach the Wizards need.

Posted by: rickgonz | November 24, 2008 11:47 AM

"Mason's having end-of-game plays run for him in SA."

Exactly, and that's Gil's and EG's fault.

They basically replaced Mason with some clown who has been out of the league a couple years in Dee Brown.

This is why EJ getting fired is bad, he was dealt a bad hand and it's only getting worse.

EG needs to look at himself long and hard. He did this same thing with the Bucks before he came here. I don't understand why people think he's so great because he made one good move with Caron. Except for McGee, it's not like he's ever drafted anyone of note.

He's still not better then Ainge in Boston, now is he?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 24, 2008 11:49 AM

Bad news, great scoop. Keep it up, Ivan!

Posted by: gburggal | November 24, 2008 11:49 AM

Is it just D.C. that makes basketball men lose their mind? Grunfield chose to trot the same team out there that couldn't get out the first round the last two years. Then let go of the best bench player onthe team even though you knew Gil was going to be out until Jan. Then throw in the injuries to Haywood and Daniels and the fact that we are only 11 games into the season. It must be in the water. Question: When was the last time we made the playoffs without EJ? WTF!!

Posted by: bacontown13 | November 24, 2008 11:50 AM

Does anyone edit this? I managed to read all the way to the bottom only because I love the Wizards so much, but I had to cringe the entire way because your grammar is atrocious and your spelling is nearly as bad. Please try and do a better job!

Posted by: kdemko | November 24, 2008 11:51 AM

"When was the last time we made the playoffs without EJ? WTF!!"

Exactly.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 24, 2008 11:52 AM

Thank you. the heavens have spoken. This guy not only this year but previous years his substitution patterns were terrible, teams were running up 10 to 14 point runs before he would call time out, not playing productive players like Dominick Mac. I'm happy.

Posted by: stephenwilson2003@yahoo.com | November 24, 2008 11:53 AM

"All the people who are angry about this please tell me what was so great about Eddie Jordan?? He clearly lost the team and runs the worst rotation ever."

To all the people who are happy about this, please tell me why you think Tapscott will get any better results out of a team missing two starters (including its best player) and one of their top reserves, a team starting guys who'd be 3rd or 4th string if everyone was healthy?

I'm neither angry (what do I have to be angry about? I've still got a job?) or surprised. I just don't believe this will make any difference as long as Arenas, Haywood, and Daniels are out. But if/when those guys do come back, not having an experienced coach to lead the team could make a difference, and not in a good way.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 11:53 AM

Hopefully Eddie got a nice buyout of his contract. I've got tremendous respect for what he accomplished here. This move is not unlike when the Caps fired Ron Wilson. When a team underperforms, the GM shifts the blame to the coach. Ultimately, injuries and Lebron have been the obstacles. I never got the feeling that his teams underperformed. Also, young players like Brendan, Caron, Nick, and even Larry Hughes showed tremendous development as players under Eddie.

Posted by: hotasice141 | November 24, 2008 11:54 AM

"It is clear he lost the team and had players coming to him complaining about their minutes and how they are being used. "

How is that "clear"? Please provide some evidence to back up this claim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 11:56 AM

"This is why EJ getting fired is bad, he was dealt a bad hand and it's only getting worse."

I hardly think the letting go of Roger Mason is what sent this team from above .500 last year to 1-10 this year. EJ couldn't get it done.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 11:56 AM

This is the equivalent (to continue with the mortage metaphor) of changing the clerks when your bank is stuck with $20 billion in toxic mortgages.

The damage is long done and the problem goes far beyond EJ.

For those who think a major (or even minor) problem was his poor substitution patterns, we'll see if Tapscott is any better.

EJ may have contributed to this mess; but on the list of contributors he's farther down than other people. In other words, it's going to take more changes than this to right the Wizards ship.

Posted by: SteveMG | November 24, 2008 11:56 AM

I am a fan of Eddie Jordan. He's a really good coach when all the pieces are there. But it is time for a change. I said to a friend two weeks ago that when a team loses games that they were "in" in the last two or three minutes of play, it's the coach not the players who lose the game. For the season so far the rotations and substitutions have been questionable. The team needs strong point guard play (Juan Dixon or Dee Brown) and someone in the middle. Nick Young still needs to be the spark (every team needs one). McGee can start in the middle, but he shouldn't be relied on for consistency. He's going to be a good player and he's playing with a lot of maturity now. But the big men in the league will have him for lunch. Assign him the task of offensive rebounds and we'll get some much needed stat improvement. Fans, don't throw the season away and don't pin your hopes on Arenas. I'm still smarting from his abysmal performance in the playoffs last year that set the team back.

Posted by: ssjones1 | November 24, 2008 11:57 AM

Not the least bit surprised by the firing. but the fact that they're turning the team over to Tapscott instead of one of the actual assistant coaches is an "interesting" move.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 11:47 AM

Yea Kal. I think Eddie's "assistants" might run the same stuff he was running and also calling games like Eddie and that would have made it a moot point firing Eddie.

Ernie needs to have an extension of himself on the floor. I am pretty sure he has mandated Tabscott to give major minutes to NY, AB, McGee and DMac. He figures if he is going to lose he my as well get their youngsta's some valuable playing time.....

Lastly, if that is the case then I won't mind the losing until Gil gets back (if he does get back this year). I think that is all Ernie wanted EJ to do, but for some reason Eddie refused to do it.

If my boss asks me to do something over a period of time and I continue to still do it my way and then he or she warns me and I still do not do it. Guess what, I am going to get fired......

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 11:58 AM

Well, something had to give. The Wizards started off 1-10. They just signed Gil & Antawn to 2 huge deals this summer. Abe Polin & Ernie Grunfeld expect winning results immediately, despite the fact that the team's best player hasn't played a game yet this season, Haywood's out for the year & with AD not being 100%, the team has no real point guard playing right now. It doesn't matter who coaches this team, the Wiz will still have the same problems for the rest of the season, even when Gil comes back. Ernie's the one who put this team together. Eddie didn't deserved to get fired. He did a tremendous coaching job last season, with all the injuries to key players. Ernie should of let Eddie coach out the rest of the season, as I think Mr. Jordan has earned at least that much respect for what he's done for an otherwise losing franchise. After the 1988 season, the Bullets/Wizards made the playoffs just 1 time in 15 seasons. Abe unceremoniously fired the greatest NBA player ever in Michael Jordan. Then that offseason he hired Eddie & Ernie. Eddie led the Wiz to 4 playoff appearances in 5 full seasons coaching. He brought a winning way to a franchise that was the laughing stock of the NBA (with the exception of the Clippers, who still stink).

Posted by: ADloyalfan | November 24, 2008 11:59 AM

Now If they could trade the non-shooting guard Stevenson, and 75 year old point guard Daniels and sign a couple of free agents maybe we can get some points. The worst move was giving Arenas and Jameson all that money. I wonder who we will draft with the first pick. Good riddance Eddie.

Posted by: stephenwilson2003@yahoo.com | November 24, 2008 12:01 PM

"To all the people who are happy about this, please tell me why you think Tapscott will get any better results out of a team missing two starters (including its best player) and one of their top reserves, a team starting guys who'd be 3rd or 4th string if everyone was healthy?"

I don't think anybody believes Tapscott is going to take this team anywhere. People are happy because we're moving on from EJ, which IMO is necessary if the team is going to go anywhere in the future. The next step is determining where are future strengths will lie, and finding the best coach to maximize those strengths.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 12:01 PM

You could just sense a change was about to happen. Ernie wasn't about to pull the trigger on a trade, as that would of only had worked out last season. Antawn was in the last year of his contract & Gil had 2 years left on his. Then Gil "just happened" to opt of his contract. Then he basically forced Ernie's hand & backed him into a potentially ugly situation. Mr. Hibachi wasn't going to re-sign with the team unless Antawn was coming back. If I was Ernie, I would of called Gil's bluff. Eddie didn't overpay for a guy with 2 major knee surgeries, give him $111 for 6 years while knowing Gil was going to have his knee scoped & miss the first 2 months of the season. Now that's 161 mil for 2 players who haven't led any of their teams to at "least" the conference finals in their careers & don't play defense. Well, maybe this is the best thing for Eddie. He no longer has to suffer through another sorry defensive performance & lack of effort on both ends of the court from this team. Good luck to Ed Tapscott, your going to need it.

Posted by: ADloyalfan | November 24, 2008 12:01 PM

The real question is whether Tapscott will ride this thing out for the rest of the season or if he's just a placeholder while they start looking at replacements. My guess is the former, because hiring a full-time, long-term coach under these circumstances would really be just be a desperation/panic move. Plus, it's unlikely any coach worth having (i.e., any coach that's actually in any kind of demand) would want to take over this mess of a team under these circumstances.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:02 PM

I'm not sure what I feel about firing coach Eddie Jordan, to be honest. It's true the Wizards are off to an unsightly 1-10 start. It's true they've had troubles even competing in some games. It's true there are no excuses.

Having said that, I agree with the sentiment that this is a classic example of firing a coach when you can't fire underachieving players. I don't know if I'd call Jordan a great coach per se, but he took over a moribund franchise that was an NBA laughing stock. If you take out his first season's 25-57 record, his Wizards record stands at 172-167.

The team had four consecutive non-losing seasons, making the playoffs each time. The worst record in that stretch was 41-41 in 2006-07. Prior to that, the franchise had only one playoff appearance since 1987-88.

Ultimately, time will tell if this was the right move. However, I don't think it is.

Posted by: msarzo73 | November 24, 2008 12:02 PM

Sad day. Eddie's a class act.

Posted by: sleby | November 24, 2008 12:02 PM

"I hardly think the letting go of Roger Mason is what sent this team from above .500 last year to 1-10 this year. EJ couldn't get it done."

And you forgot to say that BH and AD, two starters from last year are hurt, Stevenson can't hit the side of a barn and played above himself last year, THEN they replace Mason with some bum, and FINALLY sign Arenas who can't get on the floor to a 100 mil deal.

I never said it was just losing Mason at all.

I used to roast EJ on here, but this is not his fault. Look at EG first, he's the GM. Nobody can win with the roster they have right now. They are a 1-10 team, whether EG believes that or not.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 24, 2008 12:04 PM

Sad day. Eddie's a class act.

Posted by: sleby | November 24, 2008 12:02 PM

Sleby - It is not too sad. He is paid for this year and next. Eddie is going to be just fine..... And again, if he changed up on the way he called games and played the youngsta's more and stop playing "slow small-ball" every chance he got he would still be here (even if he was losing with a 1 and 10 record).

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 12:07 PM

I truly can not believe all the people on here defending Jordan. Do you people watch this team?? The man has the worst rotations of any coach in the league. This is the man who started Jared Jefferies over Caron Butler for 25 games. This is the man who started Jarvis Hayes at power forward in the playoffs. This is the man who has been playing Songalia at center. Songalia! He's averaging 1 rebound!!! Wake up people. You will see a difference in this team with a different coach. Perhpas then you will realize how little you understand about the game.

And for the person bashing the organization for firing Micheal Jordan... he drafted Kwame Brown you chuckle-head. That alone is grounds for anyone to be let go.

Posted by: tmilt27@aol.com | November 24, 2008 12:10 PM

Pulled this off of ESPN's board. I think it about sums it up:

"Let's see...... You have a 50 year old point guard, you have a shooting guard who can't shoot, you have a small forward who is underachieving this year, you have a power forward who can't D his way out of a paper bag(will give you 20/10 though on two bad knees) and a rookie center. Fire the coach, the GM and the owner. You paid a zillion for a guy who may not play again, you let a valuable reserve get away(Mason), and you picked up no free agents(Brand in particular). Stupid,stupid, stupid."

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 24, 2008 12:11 PM

Just finished reading all the comments BenThere knows nothing about basketball, he should be playing checkers or something. Eddie's bad substitution patterns were realized by us real basketball fans who were "actually players" who played the game and not by the tv watchers and sportscasters who never could play any sports like those 2 guys with John rggins on his show. Let us "real men" who played the game comment and you pansies just read them.

Posted by: stephenwilson2003@yahoo.com | November 24, 2008 12:11 PM

"Nobody can win with the roster they have right now."

Just my opinion, but I refuse to believe that a team with 2 all-star forwards and some very solid young talent were destined to a 1-10 start this season, no matter what injuries occurred. It's the same mistakes over and over that kill this team. That's a problem with coaching.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 12:13 PM

I'm with BulletsFever, EJ is going to be well taken care of, and he'll get another NBA gig. While he was dealt some bad cards this season, he didn't even try to play with them, he just folded every time - he didn't even bother to call time outs at the end of games, and at times he didn't instruct players to foul at the end to prolong games (almost seemed like he wanted to go home early at times). I really felt that his heart wasn't in it anymore as his message wasn't getting thru to the players.

Posted by: tedunni1 | November 24, 2008 12:14 PM

EJ's been Dead Man Walking for a while now. Sometimes, it is just obvious that a team has stopped listening to a coach and the coach has no idea how to get through to the team. It was a mercy killing, much like the whacking of Glen Hanlon at this time last year. I mean the home opener against the Nets . . . the place was half full and mostly dead.

Now, I don't think that will turn out the same way . . . but a new coach can inspire a different sort of effort.

For the armchair GMs out there, please identify the specific mistakes . . . would the fan base have been happy is EG has let Gil and Antwan walk for nothing this offseason? Would they have demanded replacing them with Baron Davis???? How's that working out for the Clippers? BTW -- for the bonanza FA class of 2010, there are 15! teams under the cap. A bunch of teams are going to be sorly disappointed with their supposed smart cap management.

Posted by: traderkirk | November 24, 2008 12:15 PM

Tapscott is the best they could do??? Sounds like a Pollin move, picking a local guy who was willing to work cheap. Where was Grunfeld on this? No matter how bad the situation is, never fire the coach unless you have someone better to fill in.

Thanks for a great run Eddie. The fact that we expect to make the playoffs every year now after over a decade of futility shows how much this team improved under your watch.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | November 24, 2008 12:16 PM

When it was 1-5, I said wait and see. But now it is 1-10, I am no surprised!

Look, even goo coach gets fired. Players eventually tuned out on coaches. That is why EJ was the longest tenured coach in the Eastern conference. People may argue otherwise, but 1-10 record speaks loudly. For those who points to the roster, just look at the teams that Wiz lost, Knicks twice (including the 7-men roster), Bucks without Red, Hawks without Josh Smith and Holford, Nets, etc. This roster is not great, but should be better than 1-10!

Posted by: sagaliba | November 24, 2008 12:17 PM

StephenWilson 2003: What level did you play ball on?? Obviously you are on here blogging, so youre either some washed up bum, or an NBA wannabe who could never make it, you probably play rec league or something. What a loser!! HAHAAHAHa

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 12:21 PM

This is the best move the Wizards made in a while. Spare me the nonsense about them making the playoffs 4 years straight. It's not that hard in the NBA. This is a team that supposedly had the talent to go to the NBA Finals. But they've never won more than 45 games in a single regular season. They advanced past the 1st round once and was promptly swept in the 2nd round.

Posted by: dckwanzaa | November 24, 2008 12:21 PM

wow this is ABSURD. eddie wasn't perfect but he's def. not the reason they lost games!!! they need to fire destank stevenson and the other underperformers....wow this is going to set us back now even worse.

Posted by: insanity999 | November 24, 2008 12:22 PM

It's not completely fair for Jordan to get fired if the Wizards were getting blown out every game and were injured. However, losing every winnable game except one rests a good deal on his shoulders.

I think we should make a push for Avery Johnson to come to DC!

Posted by: acleex | November 24, 2008 12:22 PM

This team stinks/sucks you name if it smells bad it's this team...without it's best player well that's still up for debate as you don't know what you're getting once Arena's returns...as for their best center well if Haywood is the best they can do that explains another issue at best he would be a backup on any other team...the rookie has better skills already then Haywood would ever have, the Wizards need to learn stop shooting so many jumpshots and work the ball in to him.

Posted by: papaskynz | November 24, 2008 12:22 PM

"Spare me the nonsense about them making the playoffs 4 years straight. It's not that hard in the NBA."

If it's not so hard, why'd the go almost ten years without doing it before Jordan showed up?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:23 PM

"I truly can not believe all the people on here defending Jordan. Do you people watch this team?? The man has the worst rotations of any coach in the league. This is the man who started Jared Jefferies over Caron Butler for 25 games. This is the man who started Jarvis Hayes at power forward in the playoffs. This is the man who has been playing Songalia at center. Songalia! He's averaging 1 rebound!!! Wake up people. You will see a difference in this team with a different coach. Perhpas then you will realize how little you understand about the game.

And for the person bashing the organization for firing Micheal Jordan... he drafted Kwame Brown you chuckle-head. That alone is grounds for anyone to be let go."

Posted by: tmilt27@aol.com | November 24, 2008 12:10 PM

THANK YOU!!! tmilt, you hit the nail on the head. People tend to forget he started JJ over Caron, including myself!!!!1 Thanks for the refresher, and yes Jarvis @ the 4 HAHAHA!!! Man, how can ANYONE defend EJ's coaching moves??? That's the best post I've read on here.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 12:23 PM

Just finished reading all the comments BenThere knows nothing about basketball, he should be playing checkers or something. Eddie's bad substitution patterns were realized by us real basketball fans who were "actually players" who played the game and not by the tv watchers and sportscasters who never could play any sports like those 2 guys with John rggins on his show. Let us "real men" who played the game comment and you pansies just read them.

Posted by: stephenwilson2003@yahoo.com | November 24, 2008 12:11 PM

Couldn't agree with this post more......

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 12:23 PM

CJ658, I'm sorry if i talked about your lover you don't have to be upset. I don't dislike gays.

Posted by: stephenwilson2003@yahoo.com | November 24, 2008 12:24 PM

It's Gilbert Arenas fault for stating he won't sign the contract unless some players remain on the team (Jamison being one of the players). Then, you give Gil this contract and the Wizards can't play in the Free Agent market.

You say what person would want to take over a team or (this mess), however, remember what EJ had to take over when he came onboard. This is not EJ fault!!

Now we need to ship 1) Etan "Can't catch a pass" Thomas and 2) Antawn "Don't play Defense/Only play on one side of the court" Jamison out of here.

Wizards need to utilize this year to develop McGuire, McGee, Blache and Young.

Posted by: clifton3 | November 24, 2008 12:24 PM

"Spare me the nonsense about them making the playoffs 4 years straight. It's not that hard in the NBA."

If it's not so hard, why'd the go almost ten years without doing it before Jordan showed up?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:23 PM


OWNED, as usual. at this rate the Blizzards r gonna finish 10-72.

Posted by: prescrunk | November 24, 2008 12:26 PM

I don't see why they had to fire him. It's expected that DC sports teams suck. The Nationals are a national embarrasment, DC United was terrible last season, and the Redskins usually suck also (not this year thanks to Zorn). It's only fitting that the Wizards join their peers at the bottom in their sport.

Yes, the Caps are good, but hockey is a Canadian sport so who gives a d*mn. It's so stupid that in Southern states like N. Carolin, Florida, and Georgia where the only ice you'll find is in the freezer, have hockey teams. Yeah, New York, DC, New Jersey etc. are in the Northeast and have snow, but who the hell cares about hockey?

Posted by: terp4life1 | November 24, 2008 12:27 PM

StephenWilson: Actually, I agree with the move to fire EJ, so get your facts straight. Then you resort to third grade tactics, and say EJ is my lover??? HAHAHA, man you really are some wannabe kid who thinks he plays ball. Get a life. Get your facts straight before you run off at your mouth behind a computer.

It amazes me how all these people on here "think" they have a right to talk because they "supposedly" played the game before. Unless you are in the league, you obvisoiuly weren't that good. Some of the best coaches in pro sports "never played the game". And some of the best players made lousy coaches/GM's. (I thomas, and MJ).

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 12:30 PM

This was, by far, the stupidest thing these Wizards have ever done; how in the hell is Tabscott gonna help the Wizards improve?!! This is purely a personnel issue! He has no players to work with. Looks like its back to the 32 - 50 records of the '90s. Thanks, Ernie! Bang-up job there, my friend.

Posted by: guisher | November 24, 2008 12:30 PM

BulletsFever, same goes to you for agreeing with Stephen. And what makes you think playing basketball makes a "real man". I hope you were being sarcastic lol. Basketball is a panzy game. Football and hockey are sports that real men play. I watch basketball as a fan, it's a finesse sport. A bunch of wusses who cry evertime they get there hand slapped. HAHA. Fun to watch though.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 12:33 PM

if anyone should be fired , it should be ERNIE GRUNFIELD, worst GM we ever had. No serviceable big man. We need a center that rebounds and plays defense and gets garbage points. Should never have resigned gilbert, should have kept Roger mason, and the team plays no defense. EDDIE TAPSCOTT as coach?

Posted by: jbail51 | November 24, 2008 12:33 PM

Pulled this off of ESPN's board. I think it about sums it up:

"Let's see...... You have a 50 year old point guard, you have a shooting guard who can't shoot, you have a small forward who is underachieving this year, you have a power forward who can't D his way out of a paper bag(will give you 20/10 though on two bad knees) and a rookie center. Fire the coach, the GM and the owner. You paid a zillion for a guy who may not play again, you let a valuable reserve get away(Mason), and you picked up no free agents(Brand in particular). Stupid,stupid, stupid."

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 24, 2008 12:11 PM

What up Ray. No disrespect but, to that ESPN board; "Whatever"...... Bottom line we still have 2 All Stars in the lineup. That should still be better then 1 and 10.

So Gilbert duked Ernie, is that Ernie's fault? He did what he had to do and that was resigning him. Gil did a power play on Abe and Ernie to resign Stevenson and AJ.

He also probably got Eddie that extra year on that contract. But guess what, Ernie did all of that so he could get Gilbert to sign the contract.

Well Gilbert is signed long term now so he is now no longer running things. He can not threat to bolt to another team now. You will now see Ernie actively shop Stevenson if there are any takers.

Ernie is going to get a coach who is going to bring discipline here now and put Gilbert in his place. There will be no more favoritism (i.e. EJ and AJ) and there will be accountablilty being stressed.

This sounds like Van Gundey or Avery Johnson. Tabscott is going to "evaulate" the players as an extended hand of Ernie's. I know for a fact things are going to change now on the court, I can not wait.

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 12:33 PM

What kind of BS is this?? I guess it's Eddie's fault that Abe is so in love with Gil that he was paid like a megastar when the fact of the matter is if you ask any nba fan to name 5 guards better than Gil they will probably give you 8 or 9 names. For the record this current version of the Washington Wizards is not very good defensively for an entire game; that's with or without Gil and Brendan and you can't blame that on the coach. Way to go Wizards organization..ie senior management. This is the same coach who has manage to take our average teams and get us in the playoffs for the last few years. This decision is a more of an embarrassment than the current 1-10 record. Shame on you Abe, Ernie, and any other name not mention that was part this decision.

Posted by: bjohnson2000 | November 24, 2008 12:34 PM

Just out of curiosity BF, what brand of crystal ball do you use?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:35 PM

Bad move Wiz.
Eddie Jordan's past success should have given him more time to turn it around.
The players better start landing shots at the end of games or else they could be on the trading block by Christmas the way this year is going...

Posted by: sammy5 | November 24, 2008 12:35 PM

Well, I hope the Wiz players are happy with themeselves. I have tried to figure this thing out but I don't know. A part of me wants to point the finger at Jordan but another part of me thinks the players are at fault as well. Yes, EJ did make some questionable substitution calls and yes they still play no defense but you can drag a horse to the water but you can't make him drink.

Posted by: ivyleague | November 24, 2008 12:36 PM

I hope everyone calling for Eddie Jordan's head is happy now. So I assume the Wiz will go on a 10 game winning streak now right? If that doesn't happen, who's next to get all the blame? I'll keep saying this until this lousy season is over. Gilbert Arenas can't be hurt back to back seasons to start off the season. Look what happened.

This team refuses to play defense. Antawn Jamison is a lousy defender, but I guess we can't blame him right. We're the worst 3 point defending team in the league. I'd like to thank Eddie for bringing some credibility back to this once lousy franchise. I know he'll get another crack at a head coaching position some day.

Again I'll ask this question, what if the Wiz continue to lose, who's next to blame?

Posted by: wizfan81 | November 24, 2008 12:37 PM

He led us back to the playoffs after a very long drought. I don't think fans will hold any grudges against Eddie Jordan.

I'm sure he'll get another NBA gig and do a hell of a job.

Posted by: redskins91 | November 24, 2008 12:38 PM

how in the hell is Tabscott gonna help the Wizards improve?!!

The question isn't "how is Tabscott gonna help the Wizards improve?", it's "how was Jordan going to help the Wizards improve?"

Jordan was 1-10 with this team. Can't get much worse than that. Tabscott is an interim coach, he's not here for the long haul. At this point, EG realized that the Wizards weren't going anywhere with Jordan. Letting him go was the right move. At least now the team can focus on the future.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 12:38 PM

the youth is not getting better the team dont play d and coach never got a good rotation goin its time for a change tapscott????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? eg please

Posted by: teresabogans | November 24, 2008 12:39 PM

For everybody railing on Grunfeld, keep in mind he's one of only a handful of competent GMs in the league. He turned Kwame into Caron, and knew enough to not overpay Larry Hughes and Jared Jeffries. I didn't like the Gilbert or AJ signings this summer but that was all Polin. The sad truth is that this team won't be a true contender until Abe is gone.

For all you Eddie Jordan apologists, keep in mind that in addition to his terrible rotations, he chased away Tom Thibodeau (by far the best defensive coach in the league).

Posted by: walthouse32 | November 24, 2008 12:41 PM

I agree with Kalo. This isn't about believing that coaches should never be fired, its about expectations. So, the team is underperforming after 11 games. OK. If there were a string of bad coaching decisions dating back to last season, I could understand getting rid of the coach at this point, regardless of his past success (especially relative to this franchise).

But if the questionable coaching decisions are limited to the past 11 games, where you are dealing with incorporating new players into a makeshift lineup, the question becomes... what were you expecting? I think Jordan deserved more time to right the ship given (1) his record of success with the team and (2) the roster instability.

I get that management probably sees a failure to make the playoffs as a major setback for the team, and that the team's current trajectory jeopardized that goal.

While a coaching change might give a temporary jolt to the system, the Wizards simply do not have the talent to progress past the first round without Arenas. So the coaching change, I think in the long run, further destabilizes the progress the team has made over the years.

Now, if you think that the team reached its peak with Jordan upon being eliminated in the playoffs 2 years in a row by Cleveland, then the move makes sense, and you need someone to take the team to a higher level. I get that. But, I'm not sure you build a team around Caron Butler. Someone actually called he and Jamison "superstars". They are certainly above average players, but not in the league of Lebron, Kobe, Nash, Pierce, etc.

Look at the stars on the teams that actually DO compete. Do Caron and Jamison come close? Boston, Orlando, Detroit, Cleveland (remember they actually made the finals) Houston, Phoenix, Lakers, Spurs, Utah, Denver...In terms of elite players per team, the Wiz come way behind each of those teams, and I'm sure there are a couple more I didn't mention.

I'm just wondering what the expectations are now that there is a new coach. Playoffs? 2nd round of playoffs, tops? Then what?

Posted by: ussamsarmy | November 24, 2008 12:42 PM

Freaking Ernie Grunfield...You are the Worse! I know my skins look like some garbage but atleast some of their picks are coming through and with the draft picks laron landry and jason campbell are coming to fruition! Ernie has picked Peter John Ramos, Steve Blake (who is actually a decent point guard and can shoot now), Kwame Brown! What is wrong with him? YOU F***ING suck! Gilbert you are a sorry bastard too and probably had a hand in getting Eddie out of here! I hope he goes to a team where they actually listen and gets a championship! I like Caron and Antwan we shoulda traded Gil when he was healthy and dumped his whole nobody loves me, my mom left me, my baby momma is dumb saga!

Posted by: SkinzFan4lyfe | November 24, 2008 12:43 PM

I will be short.
The big problem for the Wizards is Arenas he is a joke like Fredy Adu was for the United.

Maybe a new coach will bring some motivation and energy to the players however the best motiviation is the fortune they make to play.

Posted by: afrancisco | November 24, 2008 12:45 PM

My main problems with Eddie (and I used to be a fan of his )are his strange substitutions patterns, A guy could score 30 points one night and sit the next. His insistance on small ball when he didn't have the smalls who could deliver. His inability to coach or properly use centers, witness his mishandling of BTH the year before last and his love affair with ET. And his inability or unwillingness to develop young players

Posted by: browneri | November 24, 2008 12:45 PM

Best guess would be Van Gundy. He's the type of guy the team needs. He OPENLY critisized EJ's coaching moves vs the Rockets, and he made a lot of sense doing so. He did it on more than one occasion. I'm willing to bet EG got wind of that.

EG is not the one to blame, abe and EJ are. Abe prevents Ernie from doing a lot of things, and it was ABE'S move to sign Gil to that ridiculous contract. Gil constantly disrespected EJ and walked all over him, just "announcing" he was playing before the Bucks game, then deciding to "shut it down" right before the Cavs game. That WOULD NEVER happen with a guy like Van Gundy running the show. Gil is worth half of that at best. Now he is going to take the year off and turn a 6 year 111 million deal into a 5 year 111 million deal. Way to go Abe, he robbed you. Gil is more concerned with marketing and his life after ball than winning right now. Come on folks, wake up. A good first step was made today, but more has to be done.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 12:47 PM

Anyone expecting Van Gundy or Johnson to come riding to the rescue any time soon is fooling themselves. Tapscott will be riding the bench for the rest of this season. They won't get a new "permanent" coach until the offseason, and given Pollin's history, it won't be a big name.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:49 PM

jbail51,

Has it right, on this one.

Grunfeield should be held accountable for this debockle.

When the I witnessed the press conference with Abe & Agent Weirdo, I got that "Al Davis" feeling.

This team is beginning look like "The Oakland Raiders" of basket ball, over paid under achieving talent, with a senile owner, and a GM that's a yes man.

In short the front office, lives in a world of make believe.

How is the Agent Weirdo, contract working for ya Ernie ?


Posted by: dashriprock | November 24, 2008 12:51 PM

Another instance of scapegoatism. Eddie Jordan revived Washington Wizards from oblivion. He has taken the team to about four playoffs in a row. The players played for him. He is a very good coach and it will not be long before he finds another decent job, if not as a head coach but as a credible assistant.

I do not know what you want to get with a bunch of inactive and injured tough players on the bench. Whoever takes over will not make a difference. That is not a curse but a fact and may signal the resuscitation of those years in obscurity.

Posted by: midas20874 | November 24, 2008 12:51 PM

So stupid. Eddie Jordan was the best thing the Wizards had going for them. They have a frontcourt made up of three young green guys and a career backup, and have their two best guards hurt. In a lifetime of stupid Bullets/Wizards moves, this ranks among the top.

Abe Pollin: Please, please, sell this team. You have sucked for decades.

Posted by: robertthornett1 | November 24, 2008 12:51 PM

BulletsFever, same goes to you for agreeing with Stephen. And what makes you think playing basketball makes a "real man". I hope you were being sarcastic lol. Basketball is a panzy game. Football and hockey are sports that real men play. I watch basketball as a fan, it's a finesse sport. A bunch of wusses who cry evertime they get there hand slapped. HAHA. Fun to watch though.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 12:33 PM

Cj658 - Nope I don't think that. I was just agreeing with Steve's point about some folks never playing the game on a organized level before and sometimes you can see that in some of their comments.

Not that I am right on my posts, but I just find it crazy how everyone seems to be blaming Ernie on this whole thing. Does he deserve some of the blame, dang right. But it was fixable if Eddie would have bought into playing the youngsta's more.

So to hear folks not saying Eddie is not at fault at all made me wonder if any of these folks ever played any organized sports before? If you have as I have, you would be able to see some of this stuff; that is all that I was trying to say.

I was not trying to get personal with anybody by agreeing with that post because I don't roll like that. It is all good, my apologies if my agreement on that post was taken like that.......

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 12:51 PM

Anyone expecting Van Gundy or Johnson to come riding to the rescue any time soon is fooling themselves. Tapscott will be riding the bench for the rest of this season. They won't get a new "permanent" coach until the offseason, and given Pollin's history, it won't be a big name.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:49 PM

That's find with me. It does not have to be a big name. I just want the coach to be defensive minded and then I can work with him.......

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 12:53 PM

type - "fine"

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 12:54 PM

"That's find with me. It does not have to be a big name. I just want the coach to be defensive minded and then I can work with him......."

Aaaand ... what position do you play again?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:54 PM

What about Flip Saunders? Isn't he a defensive minded coach that is available?

Posted by: bassguy654 | November 24, 2008 12:56 PM

I agree with Kalo. This isn't about believing that coaches should never be fired, its about expectations. So, the team is underperforming after 11 games. OK. If there were a string of bad coaching decisions dating back to last season, I could understand getting rid of the coach at this point, regardless of his past success (especially relative to this franchise).

But if the questionable coaching decisions are limited to the past 11 games, where you are dealing with incorporating new players into a makeshift lineup, the question becomes... what were you expecting? I think Jordan deserved more time to right the ship given (1) his record of success with the team and (2) the roster instability.

Posted by: ussamsarmy | November 24, 2008 12:42 PM

The questionable coaching decisions are NOT limited to this season alone. EJ's been making the same coaching decisions for his entire tenure with the club, and they haven't led this team anywhere. His best coaching job was probably last season, but he really cashed in on some career years. And you couldn't expect that again this season. But aside from that point, EJ's defensive philosophy has failed for years. His rotations have been awful for years. His lineups (small ball) have been questionable. His inability to control the team (he let Gilbert do that) was a mistake. These are all things he's allowed to happen for years. He didn't get fired on the merits of a 1-10 season alone. I think this season was just the straw that broke it for EG and the rest. And don't get me wrong, EG deserves plenty of blame for questionable signings and draft picks. But he's not going to fire himself.

I like EJ as a man. Seemed like an honest guy, a good guy. But he never seemed like a head coach to me. I'm interested to see if this team can now go in a different direction. Avery Johnson is out there, and a hard-nosed coach is what the Wizards leave. And at this point, it shouldn't matter if that ticks off Gilbert and Co. They barely finish .500 with everyone healthy.

Posted by: CDon | November 24, 2008 12:57 PM

Can you say Avery Johnson?

Posted by: dcplantgeek | November 24, 2008 1:01 PM

Ed Tapscott?? Coaching?? That's hilarious! The man who is responsible for the Worst Draft Pick in the History of the League -- one Frederic Weis -- should not be allowed near any basketball team above PeeWee level.

Posted by: bhinmd | November 24, 2008 1:03 PM

Just out of curiosity BF, what brand of crystal ball do you use?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 12:35 PM

Kal - You don't need a crystal ball to see the obvious...... Not to say Tabscott might end up souring on the young guys too, but at least they now know they have a second chance at proving themselves. Lets just hope the thought of a second chance might have them bring more energy to the floor....

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 1:04 PM

Knowing the Wizards/Bullets this will blow-up in their face. We generally fire or let go of players/coaches who go on to win championships with other teams after a year or two. We are talking about a franchise that should have Rip Hamilton and Rasheed Wallace on the floor each night, but we gave-up on them for a washed-up Michael Jordan. Eddie, feel free to give Ernie a phone call after you win your championship, and let him know what it feels like.

Posted by: jro1 | November 24, 2008 1:06 PM

Wow. Once the Bullets.....

In fairness, I think it was time to make a change. I never thought the personnel really fit Jordan's Princeton offense anyway (nobody moves well without the ball, there are maybe two decent shooters on the team) and defense has always been looked at as an oddity by the majority of the players. It shouldn't stop with Jordan, though. Grunfeld needs to go to. Giving Arenas $111 million is inexusable. Locking up AJ for 2 more years than he'll be worth it is also inexcusable. Not having anything resembling a genuine point guard is inexcusable. It's time to blow it all up. Let the kids play, do what you can to move the veterans (save Butler and Thomas)and pray the ball bounces your way for the next couple of years.

Posted by: imperialme | November 24, 2008 1:06 PM

A teacher/coach can have all the knowledge in the world, but they must be able to impart it to their students/athletes with tangible results. Jordan knows basketball and is a fine man, no doubt. That does not make him a fine head coach, as his losing record this year and lifetime clearly shows. A long overdue move.

Posted by: jmueller7 | November 24, 2008 1:07 PM

This:
"I know for a fact things are going to change now on the court"

is in no way, shape, or form "obvious." The only "change" that would count is winning, and turning the reins over to a guy with no NBA head coaching experience is hardly a guarantee of that.

"but at least they now know they have a second chance at proving themselves."

Maybe if they'd cashed in on their first chance they wouldn't need a second one.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 1:08 PM

Sorry but I am tired of people lauding EJs coaching performance. He had a great cast and made the least of it. We all saw his game decisions cost the Wizards game after game. He was a bad coach and his slack lost expression I am sure didn't inspire confidence in his players. I blame the media for promoting the myth of EJ as a good wow great coach. I agree that he seems like a nice man, but I am not sorry he is no longer the coach!

Posted by: dcplantgeek | November 24, 2008 1:09 PM

I knew this might be coming especially after the loss to the Knicks, but thought he might last a little longer since EJ had such a good year last year given what he had. In the NBA there are only two type of coaches...1.Fired Coaches and 2. Coaches that are about to be fired. Sometimes a coach getting fired is the only way a team can get shaken up.

EJ never really pushed team defense, and defending the 3 can be done without much talent. I have seen to many times open looks for three in a normal defense set up vice someone getting beat causing a delayed rotation.

Some of the personnel decisions have been questionable...Stephenson is not a legit starter in the NBA and his D is not enough to make up for his consistent poor shooting. A move to get more of a consistent shooter at shooting guard would have prevented a few of these looses. Blatche lack of conditioning should have been handled earlier...His fourth year in the league and he still has a Monute Bole frame...I wish the team the best as well as EJ.

Posted by: FLC-Woodbridge | November 24, 2008 1:12 PM

There was an obvious problem with the coaching methods, a change had to be made. The failure of this team can not be placed in just one guy, but the team is just not functioning. Grunfeld has made his shares of mistakes, e.g. giving all that money to Arenas, the new Juwan Howard of useless prima-donnas.

Posted by: opita | November 24, 2008 1:12 PM

Good to see all the Jordan supporters come out of the woodwork...72% disapproving the move on that poll.

For all the people who criticize his rotations, there was a poll on nba.com that rated the coaches and the only category EJ showed up in was "best ingame rotations/substitutions."

Oh, and that poll was taken from the opinions of all the other coaches in the league. not message board warriors.

Posted by: crs-one | November 24, 2008 1:19 PM

For all of you who have forgotten! Eddie was here before Ernie. Mr Polin pushed to keep Eddie. The change was long over due. Making the playoffs is what delayed this firing, kind of like Wayne Fontes used to do in Detroit with the Lions. The Wizards have been THE WORST three point defensive team for FIVE FRIGGIN years. EJ only cared about playing on offense "the right way". EJ will be great on TNT ESPN or where ever he lands as an analyst. He may be a pretty good college coach as well

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | November 24, 2008 1:19 PM

Who (or what coach) wants to come in and coach this team that has a seemingly permanently injured primadonna, Arenas, and a Butler (especially) and a former 6TH player of the year Jamison (on defense) under-performing, and all three locked up for multiple years? And no good solution at center either? And slackers everywhere else.

Ted Leonsis: Thank you for what you did with the Capitals, but don't buy this franchise! Wait out a few year and do what the Nicks did.

Goodbye EG; actually: Abe, time to go home and stay there. Do not show up or call the office at the Center.

Posted by: johnbear1 | November 24, 2008 1:21 PM

This is sad, although I agree with firing Eddie. Yeah, he was dealt a bad hand this year. When your best offensive and defensive players are on the shelf, and your starting backcourt is Dee Brown and Stevenson, you're hurting. No doubt injuries are a huge part of it.

But Eddie just does so many strange things as a coach. Exhibit A is Songaila at center. Really, you need go no further than that, but let's do it anyway. Eddie just couldn't see, or refused to see, that Darius is completely overmatched at the 5. But Eddie kept going with him.

He just doesn't seem to understand the center position. The *only* reason Haywood had a career year last year is because of Thomas' heart surgery. He consistently gave Etan more minutes in the years they were both healthy, even though it was plain to anyone with eyes that Haywood was far superior. And Haywood still didn't get enough minutes last year -- fewer than 30/game, even though he's a defensive force.

This year, McGee wouldn't have seen the light of day if not for Haywood's injury -- does anyone doubt this? It would've been Haywood and Thomas, and that's it. Eddie will not leg young players develop, period. And even with McGee's incredible promise, Eddie continued to play Songaila at C instead of a real center who, while raw, is still capable of changing a game in a way Song can't.

I'm sure Tapscott has a mandate to play the young guys, and go with big lineups vs. small ones. That's what worked in their one win. For whatever reason, Eddie's continuing, never-ending love of small/slow ball sealed his doom.

Eddie will catch on somewhere, but probably as an assistant. A class guy, I wish him luck. But it was time.

Posted by: keithward64 | November 24, 2008 1:22 PM

Good riddance......That bum EG is next. Once we get rid of him we can finally start turning this thing in the right direction. Anyone who backs Eddie or EG is completely clueless and doesn't follow the wizards or they are just blind homers. Both of these guys should have been fired long ago

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 1:26 PM

I'm all in favor of tanking to go for a lottery pick. I wouldn't mind seeing the Wiz go 1-20!

Posted by: PostSubscriber | November 24, 2008 1:28 PM

For all the people who criticize his rotations, there was a poll on nba.com that rated the coaches and the only category EJ showed up in was "best ingame rotations/substitutions."

Oh, and that poll was taken from the opinions of all the other coaches in the league. not message board warriors.

Posted by: crs-one | November 24, 2008 1:19 PM

Crs-one I would guess those other coaches would vote him as the best ingame rotations/substitutions coach.

Reason being, the rotations/substitutions Eddie used always ended up helping those "other coaches" win the game. So of course they well nominate him as number one in this catagory (smile).......

*** Just to make it clear I have nothing against Eddie and I wish things could have been worked out. But bottom line EJ needed Gilbert to be effective and it is no telling when Gilbert is coming back, so it was time for a change.. I hope Eddie nothing but the best where ever he ends up going...

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 24, 2008 1:29 PM

First of all, Eddie Jordan is merely the fall guy for a bad start. Let the young guys play, they have all played this year and all of them have had horrendous defensive habits that costs the wiz games. Butler is not playing at his all-star level, and only Magee and Jamison have been playing well this year. Not to mention losing your starting center, and your most relaible ball handler being limited(daniels) this team was doomed from the 1st game. Your best player talking about it's not bad to be in last place, and now you fire your coach makes the front office look like they running this team with the force hoping luke skywalker will come and save them. This team is destined to be bad for the years to come no cap room and no scouting sucess except for Magee leaves the wiz searching for leftover like dee brown and juan dixon.

Posted by: crod21@yahoo.com | November 24, 2008 1:30 PM

This firing makes no sense. You don't fire someone who has taken your team to the playoffs 4 times after being a laughingstock team for 2 decades. This sounds like something Dan Snyder would do. Was he involved? Was he in the room?

Posted by: misnala1 | November 24, 2008 1:31 PM

I think they are stuck on stupid to relieve the coach. However, I really don't care because I am a Mystics fan. And if they don't get their act together this year, I may become a former Mystics fan.

Posted by: hypnos123 | November 24, 2008 1:33 PM

BTW, Jeff Van Gundy can really, really coach. Listening to him announce games is like being at a basketball seminar. I hope the Wiz snap him up in a New York minute.

Posted by: keithward64 | November 24, 2008 1:34 PM

Eddie has been a fine coach, but something needed to be done, now. I'm not surprised in the least. The 4th quarter meltdowns, the way we've been getting hammered on the boards, combined with Eddie's attitude:

"I'm proud of our guys for just being competive... we're keeping a winning attitude... this team is built around Gilbert Arenas..." (like last year??) Basically, he seemed to have gotten too comfortable with losing.

On the other hand, we have NO competent point guard without Antonio or Gil being healthy. I think that's been the biggest factor to the start. Dixon and Brown just aren't getting the job done. Nick nor DeShawn can run the point. Can't blame that on Eddie.

Posted by: rbelleisle | November 24, 2008 1:34 PM

Get a new GM and let him choose the new head coach. That's the only way to get the team moving in a constructive direction.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | November 24, 2008 1:36 PM

Defense is 50% HEART - Rebounding is 50% muscle ..hum that = 1-10; Inclusive of the poorest sub -player rotation in the mordern era; Only N.Young seemed to have a definitive sub role; and this after EJ's entire tenure...otherwise not one player with the possible exception of R. Mason ever had a clue as to what his sub-role would be.

bye-bye

Posted by: aypub | November 24, 2008 1:39 PM

Okay, I should know better but I'll post one more comment. When a supervisor's group of employees are underperforming, who is responsible? The supervisor, correct? So who is responsible if the players on a sports franchise underperform? Who is their supervisor? I believe that would be the coach. Eddie is a good guy and a good coach, but they are no longer performing for him. Yes, they've had injuries, but 1-10 including losing to a Knicks team with seven players?

Posted by: truke | November 24, 2008 1:41 PM

Washington, D.C.: Mike,

Regardless of whether you agree with the decision to fire Jordan (I think it's a bad idea, given not only the injury situation, but also the organization's decision to commit to a superstar that we all knew was injury-prone to start with), do you think that the timing is fair to the team? Does an early exit for Jordan give the team the best chance to get back on track in a new system?

Michael Wilbon: Hi everybody...We'll start and spend quite a bit of time on the breaking news...Eddie Jordan being fired as coach of the Wizards and being replaced this morning, on an interim basis, by another Washingtonian from NE, Eddie Tapscott. I don't know that a coach has ever been replaced by his childhood buddy as head coach in NBA history...Your premise is right on the money as far as I'm concerned. The Wizards are playing without three of their top six players from last year, Arenas, Haywood and (don't forget) Roger Mason, who's lighting it up in San Antonio as a reserve. Two players have told me within the last week that the Wizards are a dreadful team right now, that until Arenas gets back they were stuck doing the same thing they had to do the previous two post-seasons, which is simply try to hold the fort. They didn't improve personnel for this year (McGee's evolution will take some time)...One All-Star who has played against the Wizards in the last 10 days told me he was surprised the Wizards weren't any better and had regressed, in his opinion. Do I think Eddie Tapscott will be able to fix that in the short term? no. Do I believe the Wizards are on the verge of a lost season? Yes, I do. All the teams in the East improved their rosters over the summer; the Wizards did not. That's Eddie Jordan's fault? No. That's Ernie Grunfeld's fault.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 1:42 PM

I watch the Wiz a lot and I've noticed for a long time now, that Eddie Jordan would not develop his post players. Eddie didn't do anything to get his post players the ball out of their offensive sets. Since Eddie's offense was based on jumps shots, the Wiz would lose a lot of games in the fourth quarter. They didn't know how to score easy baskets, or high percentage baskets. Eddie's philosophy really became evident when he benched Brandon Heywood during the Cleveland series two years ago. I think Ernie Grunfeld understood Heywood's value, so Heywood returned last year and had the best year of his career. However Heywood done this on his own. He rebounded, offensive and defensive and scored off hustle plays. Eddie rarely ran plays for Heywood. Then Eddie did the same with JaVale McGee. We all know McGee is young but Eddie seemed reluctant to get him involved and when he did he would never run plays for him, o it was time for Eddie to go.

Posted by: phillynick | November 24, 2008 1:44 PM

DC: Hi Mike, Obviously Eddie Jordan wasn't the only problem with the Wizards, but he certainly was a problem. Now that he's gone, do you think Tapscott will make a concerted effort to 1) improve team defense, and 2) develop the young bigs? (Two things which Eddie Jordan was failing at spectacularly).

Michael Wilbon: There's only one young big, JaVale McGee, who matters in the long run. Blatche, according to players who've gone against him this season, has ever skill in the book and zero work ethic. None. I'd have dumped him this summer if I could have. He's in his fourth season and simply doesn't know how to be a professional basketball player. He was the 49th player chosen in 2005 draft. Grunfeld was trying to find a big late...He could have taken Ryan Gomes is pretty productive in Minnesota and Amir Johnson of the Pistons is now earning more minutes, though he's no impact player and actually plays less than Blatche...It's all about McGee now. His development may make the Wizards job an attractive one. One player who faced the Wizards recently told me he would put McGee and Nick Young out there and let them develop, especially if this is going to be a lost season.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 1:45 PM

"I watch the Wiz a lot and I've noticed for a long time now, that Eddie Jordan would not develop his post players."

When developing post players, it always helps to actually have post players. The Wizards don't.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 1:48 PM

BULLETSFEVER: Thanks for clarifying the above situation. I was not trying to come at you in a disrespectful manner. I just took offense to Stephen's post. You definitely seem like one of the smarter people on here win it comes to Wizards basketball. And when it all comes down to it, we ALL are frustrated Wiz fans, going through a 1-10 start, but true fans stay faithful. I know when I'm watching at home, I feel helpless and want to throw the remote at the TV, but in reality we have no control, and have to hope this was the right move. Personally, I think this was a change that had to be made, and Ed should hold down the fort until next season.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 1:49 PM

Typical. We've had almost thirty years of inexplicable, disastrous front-office decisions. The Wiz-Bullets of the Abe Pollin era will be remembered as the most mismanaged team in NBA history.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | November 24, 2008 1:50 PM

A good move for the franchise. Eddie is obviously a likable guy but I think it would be a tough case to make that he is more than an average NBA coach.

Since he was just re-upped for an additional year, it is clear this decision is based upon these 11 games. They are without their starting center and point guard from last year, so it is likely concern with how the current players are being used and I would guess a concern he is not connecting with the younger players.

This is a crtical moment for them, you can quell spirit by conditioning players to lose. When the coach openly says they are lucky to be competitive and the team is built for a player who has not played for years, he undermines the confidence of these kids. They need to be built up in confidence and expectation.

For me, the most telling part of the Knicks game was the enthusiasm of the players. Here were these 7 or 8 guys with every reason in the world to mail it in, major trade, undermanned....They relished the challenge and played with fire. They were hungry and we were not.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | November 24, 2008 1:50 PM

rumor is now that John Thompson is being considered! HOLY MOLY!

http://www.wizardsextreme.com/showthread.php?t=2183&page=6

Posted by: WizardsExtreme | November 24, 2008 1:51 PM

I just hope Eddie Tapscott is as good as Gar Heard in motivating the guys!

Posted by: PostSubscriber | November 24, 2008 1:52 PM

Yeah. Right.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 1:53 PM

When developing post players, it always helps to actually have post players. The Wizards don't.

Right, Haywood's a dog. Look at how well they've done this year in his absence.

PER last year over 18, one of the best for a C in the conference.

McGee looks incredibly promising. Raw, but with his work ethic, he has a good chance of being very good.

Right, Kal. Absolutely. Nothing at all.

Posted by: keithward64 | November 24, 2008 1:54 PM

"Do I believe the Wizards are on the verge of a lost season? Yes, I do."

Lost season, possibly. 1-10, NO! I view this team as should be 5-6 at this point, which is exactly what everybody hoped for, stay somewhere close to 500 and wait for Gil's return.

"One All-Star who has played against the Wizards in the last 10 days told me he was surprised the Wizards weren't any better and had regressed, in his opinion."

Someone will have to explain to me on this, the team regressed, and it is EG's fault not EJ's? Who is preparing the team for the games? GM or the coach?

For those who insist that this is a 1-10 team, are they willing to put money where their mouth is and bet the team will finish the season (or up until Gil's return) wining only 10% of the game?

Posted by: sagaliba | November 24, 2008 1:56 PM

Now that Eddie os gone Juan Dixon better never step on the court again. That man thinks he is still at MD someone needs to tell him to pass the ball and actually Play D quit going for steals. He shouldn't even be on the roster...another pathetic move by EG.

Everyone thank Gilly and EG for this firing and the team sucking

Posted by: beas13 | November 24, 2008 10:38 AM

Luckily, the new coach is not going to do that. Juan is not the problem.

Posted by: KShark28 | November 24, 2008 1:57 PM

Jordan has been a scapegoat the past 2-3 years for the shortcomings of this team.

The Wizards have not had a legitimate NBA point guard in years. Brendan Haywood took 6 NBA seasons to start playing at an 'adequate' level at center.

Everyone knows without solid performers at the #1 and #5 you are climbing up a tall hill in trying to win consistently in the NBA.

At no time did the Wizards ease their woes in the backcourt or on the boards with any significant moves. The team continued to draft wing players and front court players who preferred to use their skills on the perimeter.

Where was the veteran power forward like a Tim Thomas this team could have used?

The Wizards did nothing, let an undersized Jamison play the power spot and get ground down battling guys 30-40 pounds heavier so that by playoff time he was either injured or spent.

Meanwhile, the team continued a fascination with Gilbert Arenas, despite the fact that Arenas never showed himself to be a true leader on the floor. A leader with all-around skills steps in where his team needs help. Instead, when healthy Gilbert was satisfied with jacking up three pointers when the team was really in need of help on the defensive end, in man up and on the boards.

Signing Arenas to a 6 year extension and also resigning Jamison at age 33 are moves that now have cut off any real flexibility the front office has to change the mix on this team over the next 3-4 years.

The club you are looking at by and large will be the same in 2010 as it is now.

That's the scary part.

Do you think the Lakers or Spurs or Pistons would have committed so much for so long to a player that had not yet proven he was capable of leading their teams to an NBA title?

Posted by: leopard09 | November 24, 2008 1:57 PM

Who are the available coaches - A. Johnson, Van Gundy, Flip Saunders . . . Any defensive minded assistants available? Agree that Grunfeld really screwed up putting this together and getting conned by Arenas.

Posted by: bugfun1 | November 24, 2008 1:57 PM

Generally, I have been a fan of EG, mostly because of his personnel moves, but EJ was not really the problem here.

We just don't have the depth yet to deal with not having our best player (Gilbert) and our best center (BH) available.

So, who's fought is that? I would say the current GM and the owner, not the coach.

I never thought that EJ was on firm footing with EG. One example is the way Gilbert decided he was going to play last year in the playoffs without telling the coaches. This was an embarassmet to EJ and the organization and EG did nothing about it. EJ should have fired the team then, but coaches making good money usually won't do that.

I think EG has some things to learn about being a GM, even if this is what often happens to 1-10 coaches.

Tim

Posted by: cannontl | November 24, 2008 1:58 PM

"When developing post players, it always helps to actually have post players. The Wizards don't."

Posted by: kalo_rama

Isn't that partially put on EJ, though? Blatche looks like he hasn't learned a thing the past few years. He was reluctant to use McGee earlier this season, instead opting for DSong and Thomas until it became painfully clear that McGee was out-producing them.

Obviously, some of the blame goes to EG for the selections and some of the blame goes to the players themselves (like Blatche). But I'm tired of coaches getting a free pass when their players don't cut it, as if they had no say in the development of these guys.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 2:00 PM

Yes! Ernies quest to avoid the championship like the plague continues unabated! THIS OWNER SHOULDNT ME MANAGING A DAIRY QUEEN MUCH LESS AN NBA FRANCHISE!

Posted by: bh1979 | November 24, 2008 2:04 PM

"Right, Haywood's a dog. Look at how well they've done this year in his absence."

Haywood's value (such as it is) is on the defensive end. He is not a low post scorer. period. Again, I said they don't have low post players and Haywood is not a low post player. As usual, you would be better served by reading then responding.

"PER last year over 18, one of the best for a C in the conference."

A conference notoriously short on impact players at the C position.

"McGee looks incredibly promising. Raw, but with his work ethic, he has a good chance of being very good."

All of which speaks to his future. I was (quite clearly) speaking of the current situation and the accusation that Jordan "failed to develop his post players." Nonsense. Right now, McGee (A) is not an effective low post player and (B) has not had the time to actually be "developed."

"Right, Kal. Absolutely. Nothing at all."

If you're referring to the value of your post, then yeah ... absolutely nothing at all.

(Otherwise known as "business as usual.")

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:04 PM

The big deal a lot of people are missing is the promotion of Ayers to to assistant. Tapscott has no NBA coaching experience so it's safe to assume that he'll be leaning on Ayers.
Since Ayers is defensive minded, we SHOULD expect some sub patterns that are more defensive based. I would expect that a coach who is thinking D first would bench Songaila permanently, keep Pech on the bench, play McGuire more, keep starting DS, keep NY coming in off the bench, start Dee Brown and Jm.

These are move you'd expect.
Now what some of us would like (AJ and CB canging to sg and sf, for example) may not happen.

BTW, was anyone else impressed with the 1-2 punch of Ab and Jm against Yao? Obviously in the latter stages of the game, they were kinda helpless but who isn't against him? Itlooked to me like Ab was doing a credible job at C. I'd previously thought he was out of position there and was only a pf but besides the rebounding, he looked good.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 2:06 PM

This team, even though a couple of starters are missing, were not playing hard. Our "D" is horrible. We can't shoot and we are being out hustled.
Coach needed to go.

Posted by: jandlml | November 24, 2008 2:06 PM

I did not look at the link and most likely this is a ridiculous rumor but if John Thompson would even consider taking this gig I would ensorse that 100%!!! I can think of nobody better for delvoping our young talent.

Can't imagine he would want such a job at his age though, the travel would kill him. He does not strike me as a Hubie Brown type guy. Maybe he could just coach our home games? :)

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | November 24, 2008 2:08 PM

"Isn't that partially put on EJ, though? Blatche looks like he hasn't learned a thing the past few years"

It;'s on Grunfled for not drafting, trading for, signing a real post player. All the coaching in the world can't turn a player into something he's not.

As for Blatche ... it's quite untrue that he "hasn't learned a thing." His skill level has clearly improved over the past 4 years. What has not improved is his focus and commitment. And there's very little that a coach (or any outside force) can do to change that without the player himself first making the effort. By all accounts, Blatche has made no such effort.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:09 PM

"The big deal a lot of people are missing is the promotion of Ayers to to assistant."

Where does it say that Ayers will be "promoted"?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:16 PM

I've read a lot of the different posts. A lot has to do with emotions. The emotions of what people are saying about EJ. The emotions of the Wiz for resigning player's for more than what they are worth (Gil/AJ).

The makeup of this team has been all wrong to begin with. At one point the Wiz keep stating that they had the best record in the East at the all-star break. Even with everyone healthy, they would not have finished no better than 4th in the conference. When you can not play 'D' you will not win. Phoenix proved that and they had a better all round scoring team than the Wiz. The Wiz only had 3 players you knew were going to score ... everyone else you never knew. When you talk about a big 3... You needed at least 1 real big man. Anytime you build up a player like Haywood, (who at 7ft could not avg 2 rebs a qtr), and saying he had a great year, you are in trouble. Their big 3 were all playing out of position which hurt their defense.

People talk about EJ rotation... the reason why he didn't have a set rotation was because he didn't have anyone he could depend on from the bench except Mason and they let him go because the other players where overpaid.

There is no inside game at all... have not had one since EJ been here... you cannot win without something in the middle.

Look at this team now... they only have 2 players that would have a chance to start on anyone else's team and 2 players with potential (Young/McGee) that's it... that's not much to work with.

The bottom line to all of this... the Wiz do not have talent to win... that's the truth... it will be a rebuilding process and we have to stop saying in 'Ernie we trust' and start looking at the players he has brought in.

Blatche – 4th yr – if after 3 yrs and a player has not shown any improvement … then it’s not going to happen where he is (here) or maybe never
Brown – a spot player
Daniels – an avg – spot player (solid)
Dixon – a spot player
McGurie – spot player ... Works hard but to small for his position
Pcherov – a 7ft who wants to be Dirk but can’t fill it up like him
Songaila – a spot player
Stevenson – a spot player (solid)
Thomas – a spot player

Posted by: hindukat1 | November 24, 2008 2:17 PM

I guess Ernie spent too much time reading the posts on this site. Next step, one of you becomes the new Assistant GM.

Posted by: SportzWiz | November 24, 2008 2:19 PM

"All the coaching in the world can't turn a player into something he's not."

If we were talking about turning "a player into something he's not" physically-speaking, then I agree with you. But Blatche could be a post player. Mentally and tactically, he's not there. A lot of that has to do with coaching.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 2:19 PM

Did you guys see Wilbon on the live chat be all chummy with Jordan and refusing to blame him for ANYTHING? That guy is terrible, he has gone from being a half decent Post sportswriter to a TV personality hack that is too impressed with himself, his TV "show" and his "contacts"...Jordan needed to go, his teans failed to play any defence and his rotations were like a random number generator...who know what comes next and what logic was used to nake the decisions? Wilbon is just an enabler for Jordan and he will do the same for the guy taht is taking over.....

Posted by: nowhine | November 24, 2008 2:20 PM

I think Eddie Jordan did a great job of helping restore the credibility of the Wizards... but I think that few coaches would have survived a 1-10 start especially given the questionable substitutions, lackluster defense and totally inexplicable loss to the Knicks... We all wish him well but no one should be surprised that he was asked to take the fall here.

I agree with those posters who say that Ed Tapscott (who is known primarily as a player evaluator) will play the youngsters more and at least we will get a sense of what we do and do not have.

Onwards.

Posted by: khrabb | November 24, 2008 2:21 PM

Just because a guy is big doesn't mean he can play in the post. Blatche's skills quite obviously make him better suited as a face-up forward. But even there he will only succeed if he puts in the effort and focus, which he simply has not done. That's on him, not the coach.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:22 PM

From a previous post:
Let's hope that Tapscott does a couple of things:

1. Benches Deshawn for Nick Young

2. Shortens the rotation and allows young players to play through mistakes.

3. Keeps Songaila on the bench since he's not one of our best 10 players.

4. Scraps the present defense.

5. Scraps the Princeton offense.

6. Plays players at their proper positions. Proper means what's best for the team and not the individual. To that end, consider AJ as a sf or a 6th man. Since he's the best rebounder we have, I'd lean toward sf. Also think about using CB as a sg.

7. Put Ayers on notice that either the defense improves or he's next.

******************************
This is a great move to try and win now. Ej's rotation was way off and his defensive schemes were not being excute properly.

I hope we get a defensively oriented coach soon such as Avery Johnson, Jeff Van Gundy or Tom Thibodeau. My money is on TT since he worked with EG with NY and was almost an assistant here last year (what is the back story on that one?).

I would also consider trading no-defense AJ and Blatche while he still has value. See if Portland will give up some youth (Aldidge, Rodriguez, LA some Post production, defense and rebounding (Camby) or the Knicks (Curry). Etan and AD also have valuable expiring contracts that could interest the Knicks or others.

Its win NOW for Abe so make some moves Ernie. Getting rid of Jordan is step one. Well done (finally).

Posted by: wizfanatic | November 24, 2008 2:23 PM

Eddie is not the only one to share the blame for the Wizards bad start. He did not sign a shooting guard that can only get you 8 points a night. Eddie should
have benched Deshawn. That was his fault.
To lose Roger Mason and keep Deshawn is crazy at best.

Posted by: andresmith1 | November 24, 2008 2:23 PM

I guess we're going to find out really soon if AB, NY and the rest of the young guns can step up. They do have a brutal schedule in the coming weeks (even if they're mostly at home) so I don't expect a significant turn around from a very dismal start. I sure hope BH can recover quickly so he can show his true worth to the team.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 24, 2008 2:24 PM

There's a lot of hating out there, but here are a few non angry insights.

For most coaches of any sport, but especially in the NBA, their shelf life is limited. This seemed to be a case of players tuning out the coach because they have heard all of his attempts to motivate them many times before. It doesn't necessarily make Eddie a bad coach, just a victim of his longevity and unfortunate circumstances.

All that said, I'm surprised the first option wasn't trying to shake up the lineup with a trade. The Wiz have some valuable pieces, but in the cap era, may have been handcuffed. If that's the case, let's hope a new coach with a new message can turn the ship around -- if not this season, then the next.

Posted by: dcbballfan | November 24, 2008 2:25 PM

If you're referring to the value of your post, then yeah ... absolutely nothing at all.

(Otherwise known as "business as usual.")

Posted by: kalo_rama


You used that line on me a month ago. Please refrain from reusing insults originally assigned to me. I no longer feel special.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 2:27 PM

dcbballfan, in order to shake up the lineup with a trade, you have to have something other teams want to trade for. The Wiz don't. Arenas is hurt, Haywood is hurt, Daniels is hurt, Jamison is old and expensive, Stevenson stinks. They may have been able to trade Butler, but they likely wouldn't have gotten real value for him. After that you've got the young guys, who don't have a lot of trade value, at least not the kind that can get you something that'll really shake things up.

The team they've got now is the one they're stuck with for this season, most likely.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:30 PM

"The big deal a lot of people are missing is the promotion of Ayers to to assistant."

Where does it say that Ayers will be "promoted"?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:16 PM

From ESPN...


Assistant coach Mike O'Koren was also let go, and the Wizards named Randy Ayers as top assistant coach, a source told ESPN's Ric Bucher.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 2:31 PM

"Assistant coach Mike O'Koren was also let go, and the Wizards named Randy Ayers as top assistant coach, a source told ESPN's Ric Bucher."

Is there a link? (Not that I don't trust you, but, well ...)

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:33 PM

Making trades midseason for a 1-10 team would be pointless, unless you can unload some of these really bad contracts (like Thomas). This team does have upside, believe it or not, when the injured guys get healthy (or maybe I should say "if" the injured guys get healthy) and with the young guys getting more experience. All is not as bad as it seems. It just won't happen this year.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 2:37 PM

Question for all of those doing the happy dance ...

If Tapscott plays the youngsters and it turns out that they simply aren't that good, will you be sending Jordan separate apologies or will you all be signing one big card?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 2:39 PM

i don't know if this firing will fire up the team but it sure did fire up this blog. before this WP was lucky to have more than 30 posts a blog

Posted by: NFeKPo | November 24, 2008 2:40 PM

Eddie is a great guy and an asset to the community. Abe is a menche. But nice guys finish last. Abe has hurt this team for years and years with his absurd loyalty to Wes Unseld who couldn't coach and was a terrible front office guy. Abe has also refused to understand that you need more than 5 good players to win in the NBA. He has squandered bench talent for 25 years. Losing Mason was just the latest in his long history of being unwilling to pay guys who won't start.

Ernie needs to convince Abe that he has to be willing to pay luxury tax or he will never get past the first round. This will happen again and again. If Young or Blache develop, they will need big contracts to keep them. We will lose them if we are not willing to pay the luxury tax. The Wizards net value has made Abe a much richer man. He can afford the luxury tax. Or we will not every be a premier team.

Posted by: smallwhiteforward | November 24, 2008 2:40 PM

Antawn Jamison has turned into MeShawn and TO combined.

The following quote is up there with Gilby's worst quotes of all time.

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"As long as we continue to work hard and continue to believe that we can turn things around, it makes my job easy," said Jamison, the Wizards' captain. "When guys stop playing hard and giving their all is when it becomes difficult for me, but this is a learning curve."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3722783

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 24, 2008 2:41 PM

Some folks here defend EJ since we hadn't won here before he showed up. The truth is that there are PROBABLY a lot of coaches who could win with healthy Larry Hughes, Gil and Antawn on their rosters. I say PROBABLY because we'll never know. When you look at the fact that he's had 4 all stars (LH was deserving whether he actually got in or not), I find it hard to give lots of credit to the coach.

We started getting to the playoffs because we assembled a lot of talent. Talent wins games. I'm not saying Leonard Hamilton could have won with these guys but I believe that 90% of NBA coaches could have. Going back to his insistence on using Ruffin, EJ has consistently shown an aversion to developing young talent. I've stated this before but it's hard to blame a guy with a 'win-now' directive hanging over his head.

Abe (Mr Burns) Pollin has repeatedly said that he wants to win a championship before he dies. EG (Smithers) tried to assemble the team with loads of talent. EJ (Homer) tried his best but was unable to get it done. I'm not sure whether we will win or not but there's no point in complaining about GA's (Bart) contract. What's done is done.

At this point, we need to find an identity. Smart money says it's offense since all 3 of our main guys are scorers with an aversion to defense. Either we do that or we break up the team.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 2:43 PM

Just go to espn.com and click on the link regarding EJ being fired
Of course you trust me, buddy.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 2:44 PM

Lessons for the new coach:

The Wiz are among the 2 or 3 worst teams in the league in ball movement on offense and everything on defense. Eddie talked about Princeton, but we all knew we have had no offensive ball movement since Strickland. The really good teams can take average shooters and improve them dramatically with great ball movement. We take good shooters, and make them worse by asking them to always go one on one.

Second, Stevenson was a nice offensive weapon when he was the fourth option behind Gil, Jamison, and Juice. When he was wide open, he could hit the 3. Now he is trying to do way more than he can, and Eddie didn't stop him. Coaching is about telling players what they cannot do.

Jamison shoots us out of alot of games at the beginning of every year. He even knows it and admits it. Tell him, if his long game is off, go inside, don't keep shooting 3s when they are not dropping.

Create your best defensive team for the final minutes of the 4th quarter when you have a lead. Stevenson for D, but not Offence, McGuire, Blache, McGee and Young NO SMALL GUARDS. Make McGee, Blache, and Young your only offensive options for this stretch.

Posted by: smallwhiteforward | November 24, 2008 2:46 PM

WAKE UP folks. The reason Deshawn was kept over Mason is simple, MARKETING. Mason is the better player, but he is the type off guy who is humble and shows up to work everday and stays quiet. The Wiz would rather have a loud mouthed Deshawn, who makes the team money and mrketable by running his mouth. Just look At Gimpert's quote from Dime Mag, tells you all you need to know about the Wiz:


"No. LeBron's scoring 30 because LeBron always scores 30. It's not like he's scoring 30 because he's mad; that's what he does....People like Charles Barkley saying DeShawn's an idiot for getting LeBron riled up; you didn't need stuff to get riled up when you were playing against Michael Jordan and those guys? Everyone talked so much trash, but that was the No. 1 watched series in the first round. We had Jay-Z making diss tapes. We had Soulja Boy. We made money for the NBA. It was an exciting series. What more do you want? People are saying DeShawn is stupid--he can't be that stupid if he made one comment and now we're playing [Cleveland] on Christmas Day. I've been in the League seven years and never played on Christmas. That one comment got us a Christmas game. That's called marketing to me."


He fails to mention the fact they LOST, but he does not care. Since they made $ and got an Xmas game, it was a succes to him. EG/Abe, do not care about winning, they care about marketing and media. They knew this roster has NO shot at a title, but that's OK with them. They figure the current group could at least keep the team around .500 and still be in playoff picture every year, and still get the attention. That would keep the fans with "hope" so the seats would still fill. No this has BACKFIRED in there face, and they are in panic mode. The more they lose, people will stop paying $ to go to the games, and ALL the National games will be dropped by ESPN/TNT. Way to go Abe/EG!!!

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 2:49 PM

Eddie Jordan obviously is a first class person since many fans are supporting him . My obsevations are related to basketball coaching where I believe he underachieved as well as the players. Injuries are the primary reason for underperformance but the lack of an inside game and no one slashing to the basket like Arenas or Larry Hughes did has been lacking. Defensive intensity has never been a Wizard strong suit so you cant fore the whole team and the coach has to take the dive. His half court offensive sets were unimpressive.

Posted by: minboden | November 24, 2008 2:49 PM

Haywood's value (such as it is) is on the defensive end. He is not a low post scorer. period. Again, I said they don't have low post players and Haywood is not a low post player. As usual, you would be better served by reading then responding.

You really have a special ability to make people loathe you. I bet you got beat up a lot as a kid.

And a guy who scores in double figures in less than 30 minutes a game is a low-post scorer. BTW, low-post means more than just scoring. It's scoring, defense and rebounding. Since Haywood did all three, it's safe to say he actually is a center, rather than dismissing him.

A conference notoriously short on impact players at the C position.

Ah, your latest justification for getting it wrong. The numbers, the evidence of our eyes, and the lack of wins without Haywood all point to his value. I'm sure you won't see it; no doubt you're in the midst of a drinking binge since your idol got canned today.

Posted by: keithward64 | November 24, 2008 2:52 PM

If Tapscott plays the youngsters and it turns out that they simply aren't that good, will you be sending Jordan separate apologies or will you all be signing one big card?

Posted by: kalo_rama

EJ was 1-10 this season. If Tapscott even goes 7-64 with the youngsters, he will have improved this season. EJ wasn't getting it done. I know he was dealt a bad hand, but it's not THAT bad.

Posted by: psps23 | November 24, 2008 2:52 PM

Why does the press give Abe such a pass? Sure he is a great guy and has done wonders for DC. BUT, he shortchanges the team when he won't pay the luxury tax. And who ever sells their second round pick to the best team in the league. Why would we let Mason go AND sell our pick to the Celtics? If you care about winning, you never make these moves.

If Abe got beat up in the press about this, he would not like it and might change his mind. But the Post reporters treat him like he is Abe Lincoln, not Abe Polin. He is not all about winning. He is all about winning on the cheap.

Posted by: smallwhiteforward | November 24, 2008 2:53 PM

Ivan asked EG in the presser about blaming EJ becuase the players aren't playing well.

Good job Ivan!

EG wasn't man enough to blame himself, he said it was the entire organization.

Lame.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 24, 2008 2:55 PM

Coaching big men. Eddie never got any real play out of Pech. Of course he was injured a lot. But you don't draft 7 footers to take 3 foot shots. If he won't go inside, cut him. He is worthless if he doesn't understand that you grow that big to get boards, block shots, and take high percentage shots. Then you can take 3s. Ernie drafted Pech with a vision of 3 7 footers in the game. But instead he got the world's first 7-foot shooting guard.

Let Pech know he plays inside or he doesn't suit up and don't renew his contract. Eddie always said it was a player's league. And he acted as though his only tool was to bench a guy. But teaching is a big part of the job. You teach, and you get your assistants to teach.

You need to get the best passing coach around to teach this team how to move the ball. Eddie telling his guys to "look for the extra pass" is not teaching. Teach these guys like Gary teaches his Freshmen. Start from scratch and teach these players how to find the easiest open shot on every possession.

Posted by: smallwhiteforward | November 24, 2008 2:59 PM

Great Move!.....

Eddie needed to go!...

The players weren't responding to him any more after 6 seasons...

I am from DC...I like Eddie...but he was not getting the job done anymore period!...

His rotation and substitution pattern was awful, and he couldn't coach'em up in the 4th quarter to win games....

do you notice how some coaches and teams win in the 4th quarter and we always lose in the 4th quarter?...

he sticks with jamison way too long...he plays too many minutes and misses too many shots with no defense....

daniels is a waste....(and he was starting before he got hurt)...

songalia is a bust...(sometimes he is the first sub off the bench)

if were are going to lose, then lets' lose by getting the young talent some experience and minutes...

(tough juice) caron butler, stevenson, dixon, & etan thomas, haywood are the only vets that need to stay and play .....

otherwise.....PLAY THE YOUNG GUYS!

oh by the way...let's get rid of Gil while we are at it!

DB

Posted by: docdwb | November 24, 2008 3:01 PM

Ray, a coaching change WAS needed!! With the Wiz roster, are you telling me they are only good for ONE WIN through 11 games. Just look at the Bucks game OR the Rockets game. Those loses are directly attributed to EJ's sub patterns. SONGIALA at the 5?? Songailia playing almost the ENTIRE 4th quater vs the Rockets?? EJ HAD to go. ALl theblame is not on him, but his moves were getting horrible. Just look at his overall record with the Wiz through the years.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 3:01 PM

The real problem with this franchise is the owner!!! Abe Pollin needs to fire himself! No team would, by chance, be this bad for this long people. For Abe, mediocrity is an achievement and he's only firing the coach so you silly people will continue to buy tickets to see his garbage. As long as Abe Pollin, who wants to spend NO money on this team, is the owner, this team will go NOWHERE. All those years when the Bullets/Wizards could not get the first round pick in the draft was because Pollin wanted it that way. He has NEVER wanted to spend top dollar to compete with the best NBA franchises. This is what fans need to understand. But what is clear is that the next person to take the job of head coach is going to be fired in about 2-3 years because that person, too will 1) find out how cheap Pollin is and 2)will realize that the team will NEVER spend the top dollar it takes to be an elite NBA franchise as long as Abe "Being Mediocre is Good and Inexpensive" Pollin is still running the show!

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | November 24, 2008 3:02 PM

STOP WHINNING ABOUT INJURIES...

THE KNICKS BEAT US WITH JUST 7 PLAYERS

Great Move! on the Wizards part!.....

Eddie needed to go!...

The players weren't responding to him any more after 6 seasons...

I am from DC...I like Eddie...but he was not getting the job done anymore period!...

His rotation and substitution pattern was awful, and he couldn't coach'em up in the 4th quarter to win games....

do you notice how some coaches and teams win in the 4th quarter and we always lose in the 4th quarter?...

he sticks with jamison way too long...he plays too many minutes and misses too many shots with no defense....

daniels is a waste....(and he was starting before he got hurt)...

songalia is a bust...(sometimes he is the first sub off the bench)

if were are going to lose, then lets' lose by getting the young talent some experience and minutes...

(tough juice) caron butler, stevenson, dixon, & etan thomas, haywood are the only vets that need to stay and play .....

otherwise.....PLAY THE YOUNG GUYS!

oh by the way...let's get rid of Gil while we are at it!

DB

Posted by: docdwb | November 24, 2008 3:06 PM

"Since Haywood did all three, it's safe to say he actually is a center, rather than dismissing him. "

It's also safe to say that, as usual, the point you think you're making has no bearing on anything I actually said. I never said Haywood wasn't a C. Did I? Of course I didn't. I said he wasn't a low post player. The two are not synonomous. (I'd explain why, but I wouldn't want to give you a brain aneurism trying to keep up.)

"And a guy who scores in double figures in less than 30 minutes a game is a low-post scorer."

You know nothing at all about bball, do you?

A low post scorer is a guy who (wait for it) scores in the low post. A guy who scores of offensive rebound tip ins and spoon fed lob passes is what is "affectionately" known as a garbage offensive player. Haywood has no low post game, as anyone who actually watched him play (as opposed to forming an opinion solely based on post game stats and projejections) would surely know.

"Ah, your latest justification for getting it wrong. The numbers, the evidence of our eyes, and the lack of wins without Haywood all point to his value."

Ah, your latest attempt to only consider the evidence that helps your argument and ignore all the (glaringly obvious) evidence that doesn't. Last I checked the Wiz have gone the whole season without Haywood OR Arenas. Crazy idea, but maybe Gilbert being out has something to do with the record. To say nothing of the fact that Daniels has been in and out, and hobbled when he did play, meaning that they're using converted SGs and FA castoffs as their primary playmakers. Perhaps that could have something to do with it? Naaah. It's all about Brendan, right?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 3:07 PM

Although we're all a bit heated, and surprised, by Eddie's firing, you have to look at the whole picture.

Eddie inherited a franchise that was still reeling after MJ left,a team that was low on talent, b/c it the franchise was awful the previous years.

They add Gil, who only chose Washington supposedly on doing the opposite of a coin flip, which would've had him choose the Clippers. Definitely not leadership material. They also bring in Jamison, who doesn't play defense well, either. Especially defending the 4. So, you have scorers for a coach who was hired b/c of his Princeton style offense, which strives on picks, and cuts to make good shots, and he b/c of his attention to defense. And, the team never added a starting, pass-first PG, kind of like Kidd was for that offense in New Jersey. Granted, you may not get someone of that caliber, but you definitely needed someone in that mindset.

Despite all of that, it looked like the Wiz were going to reach the next level, but injuries started to bite them.

And, they never improved defensively b/c their roster was built to outscore people.

Furthermore, they were successful. It's tougher to stockpile good rookies, when you're consistently picking in the middle or late in the draft. It's the prize of success. So, those who question his subs, I ask you, who is he going to put out there? You can only work w/what you have, and this roster doesn't work when any of the 'Big 3' are hurt.

To me, you have to realize who you have as your cocah, and get him players that suits his style. If not, it's always a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: kmarshall13 | November 24, 2008 3:08 PM

Mr. Burns will probably not be around in 2-3 years, NothingButTheTruth. That's the REAL reason EJ was fired.
Most owners would wait til next year when the stars are back. Mr. Burns doesn't feel like he has the time to wait.

Posted by: original_mark | November 24, 2008 3:09 PM

"To me, you have to realize who you have as your cocah, and get him players that suits his style. If not, it's always a recipe for disaster."

Well said. Too bad most people won't bother to listen.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 3:11 PM

STOP WHINNING ABOUT INJURIES...

THE KNICKS BEAT US WITH JUST 7 PLAYERS

Great Move! on the Wizards part!.....

Eddie needed to go!...

The players weren't responding to him any more after 6 seasons...

I am from DC...I like Eddie...but he was not getting the job done anymore period!...

His rotation and substitution pattern was awful, and he couldn't coach'em up in the 4th quarter to win games....

do you notice how some coaches and teams win in the 4th quarter and we always lose in the 4th quarter?...

he sticks with jamison way too long...he plays too many minutes and misses too many shots with no defense....

daniels is a waste....(and he was starting before he got hurt)...

songalia is a bust...(sometimes he is the first sub off the bench)

if were are going to lose, then lets' lose by getting the young talent some experience and minutes...

(tough juice) caron butler, stevenson, dixon, & etan thomas, haywood are the only vets that need to stay and play .....

otherwise.....PLAY THE YOUNG GUYS!

oh by the way...let's get rid of Gil while we are at it!

DB

Posted by: docdwb | November 24, 2008 3:11 PM

All,
Hey there is enough blame to around. IMO, it starts from the top and Abe and EG have not gotten it done. To totally blame EJ is ridiculous. Yea, we all can question EJ rotations at times, but when you are coaching with players that are rookies, and missing two key players what do you expect. All this says to me, is that the Wiz will be in a 2-4 year rebuilding period, because the next head coach will want to change some players to suit his style of play. Hopefully, the next coach will get a true power forward that plays defense.

Posted by: bullets_0000 | November 24, 2008 3:13 PM

re: Roger Mason

I'm surprised, after thinking about it, that Gilby never came out and said he wanted Mason on the team like he did for AJ, DS, and Avree Storey.

Maybe Mason was sick of Gilby's antics and was never buddy buddy with him.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 24, 2008 3:13 PM

WOW, I can't believe

What they need to do is get rid of the overpriced Gilbert Arenas who played the Wizzards out of 100mil. Clearly I see why Im still and always will be a Laker Fan no matter where I live

Posted by: kelvindeaster | November 24, 2008 3:14 PM

Again, regarding Mason, look at my post above. It was between DS and mason, and the reason is clear why they kept DS. And DCMAN, good point, if he wasn't "buddy" with Gil, he wasn't gonna stick around. Just like how Gil "demanded" they resign AJ or he was leaving. A smart GM would have said OK, F#&k U, leave. But Gil runs this team, and now that EJ is gone, hopefully that changes, but I doubt it.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 3:17 PM

Kal,

Thanks again for reminding me why I don't post on here any more. It's you. It's not even DC Man. It's you, plain and simple. I'd forgotten, but you've reminded me in your inimitable style. Buh-bye!

Posted by: keithward64 | November 24, 2008 3:18 PM

Question to all those that in mourning:

If Tapscott improved the Wizards record to above .10 w-l record, are you going to send a letter admitting your love on EJ's rotation and the small ball that he always bring.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 24, 2008 3:19 PM

The league's worst front office outside of Oklahoma City or New York City does it again. Jordan did an outstanding job breathing life into the Wizards' corpose, but Abe and Tapscott have made him a fall guy for organizational ineptitude.

Hope Eddie lands on his feet with a REAL team. Sorry he and his wife get treated so rudely after handing out Thanksgiving turkeys. Eddie, you're a class act, and a someone who contines the great D.C. basketball tradition.

Posted by: graydm2 | November 24, 2008 3:21 PM

"If Tapscott improved the Wizards record to above .10 w-l record, are you going to send a letter admitting your love on EJ's rotation and the small ball that he always bring."

Depends. Will Tapscott be coaching the entire season with Arenas or a healthy Daniels? Because Jordan did.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 3:21 PM

"Thanks again for reminding me why I don't post on here any more"

My pleasure. Maybe you should put a post-it note on your fridge to remind yourself why in the future. Anything to save me from having to wade through any more of your drivel.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 3:23 PM

Original -- You seem to believe that firing Eddie Jordan hastens the team's improvement? You--and Mr. Burns (Pollin) are wrong on that assumption. The quicker way to success would've been to wait on players (Arenas and Haywood) returning from injury but also explore signing of other players who would have an impact to help build a better team. So they have Arena, Jamison and Butler, but that's not the end! That should be the start. They should continue to build with better and better players. But Pollin seems to believe this trio alone would win him a championship--wrong!! That's what I mean about the willingness to spend more money to keep up with your competition. There is no attempt to do that here. Abe settles on one star or two and makes the fans believe this is all that's needed for a championship. That's the game he plays with the true fans, unfortunately. Hopefully, the cruel HOAX will end soon. Abe, do us ALL a favor and just SELL THE TEAM!! PLEASE!

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | November 24, 2008 3:29 PM

And I'd be remiss not to call keithwad on his blatant hypocrisy in picking a fight with me (over comments that (A) were critical but benign and (B) weren't even directed at him) by calling me names, then stomping off in righteous indignation when I responded to his snitty little rant in kind.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 3:33 PM

"To me, you have to realize who you have as your cocah, and get him players that suits his style. If not, it's always a recipe for disaster."

Huh? Who says that? How about realizing the composition of your team and find a suitable coach! It is easier to replace a coach than the entire team you know.

I give EJ credit for taking team to the playoffs and holding team together last season. Do you think a coach should take credit when the team is successful but blame GM when the team doesn't do well (especially "regressed" as quoted by Wilbon)? As I said, good coach gets fired too. A team would eventually tune out a coach. There is a reason why EJ was the longest tenured coach in the Eastern Conference. There is ample evidence that this team has quited on EJ regardless of what players said.

It is time to let EG pick his own coach who shares his philosophy (EJ wasn't EG's pick). If that failed, then you can blame EG.

Posted by: sagaliba | November 24, 2008 3:34 PM

The Wizards have serious personnel issues. Firing the coach will not make Etan Thomas Good. It wont make Arenas healthy, and it wont make McGee a veteran.

I've said for years, since the Muresan era...

The Wizards need to get BIG. All the guards in the world will not make up for no viable rotation at Center.

I mean, if they could win with Muresan, it's not that hard to figure out:

Size Matters in the NBA.

Getting rid of Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Richard Hamilton and Larry Hughes were all mistakes, but Ben Wallace especially.

What are they trying to do?

Get three 7 footers, One Great One, two sorry ones, and you'll win your share.

The Wizards will not be good. This may inspire the players they have to perform for their jobs / resumes, but they will not be good until they get some size in the middle.

McGee is the best pick they've made since Muresan.

Do it two more times and you're getting somewhere.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | November 24, 2008 3:43 PM

Word on the street is Mark Jackson is the Wiz next coach. Dead serious. He'll be hired after this season.

Posted by: cj658 | November 24, 2008 3:43 PM

"Depends. Will Tapscott be coaching the entire season with Arenas or a healthy Daniels? Because Jordan did."

EJ has all summer long to prepare the team his (wrong)way. Tapscott doesn't have that luxury.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 24, 2008 3:44 PM

Beginning day 1 I have posted that we do not have a team worthy of the NBA designation. I am surprised at Pollin but he needed a scapegoat. Can any coach win with the present group? "THEY ALWAYS FIRE THE COACH BUT NEVER FIRE THE TEAM".

Posted by: kcandlc | November 24, 2008 3:44 PM

Hey guys, rush over to this site where you can read Mike Lee interact with posters on his live discussion where he even offers up his own personal opinions!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/11/24/DI2008112401091.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 24, 2008 3:45 PM

"EJ has all summer long to prepare the team his (wrong)way. "

Wrong.

They didn't know Haywood would need surgery (and miss most if not all of the season) until not long before the season started. The extent of injury to Daniels knee wasn't known until after the season started, in part because Daniels decided to try and play through it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 3:50 PM

bad move! they have no talent. that's the GM's fault, not the coaches fault. why didn't they go after Jermaine Oneal this off season? they need a post up scorer who can get an easy bucket, they rely way too much on long jumpers.

another bad move was cheaping out and not re-signing Roger "The Dagger" Mason; they have nobody who is a pure shooter. DeShawn "I Can't See the Rim" Stevenson is shooting about 26% from 3 right now. what do you expect the team to do with a starting line up that includes Dee Brown (not the guy from the dunk contest) as your starting PG, and you have non-producing bums like Etan Thomas (who according to the beat righters is some sort of mysterious "inside physical presence", Darius "Can't Jump Over the Sunday Paper" Songaila, Andray "Don't Call Me Kwame" Blache.

They should also fire the head trainer(s) for botching Gil's rehab last year. Maybe Gil can coach since he's got time on his hands. Here's what he would say, "Ok, guys, we stink. So tank the rest of the season so we can win the lottery." Nice competitive spirit from the franchise player who just signed a $111 bazillion contract.

Abe Pollin is rolling over in his grave (wait, what's that? Abe's not dead yet? He just looks it?) Sorry Abe, didn't mean to throw you under the team bus.

Boo-ya!!

Posted by: WizFan | November 24, 2008 3:51 PM

Eddie is indeed being made the fall guy for a bunch of underachieving players, but shouldn't he shoulder some of the blame for failing to coach them above their own mediocrity? Four straight playoff appearances? Yes, but what about three first-round losses?

Posted by: KevinMichaelBriscoe | November 24, 2008 3:57 PM

More grist for the mill:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/chris_mannix/11/24/jordan/index.html

With Jordan gone, it increases the possibility that Gilbert Arenas, recovering from his third knee surgery, and Brendan Haywood, who has been out since training camp with a wrist injury, will not play this season. Arenas' original target return date of Dec. 1 is a pipe dream, and even if he were healthy enough to come back in, say, February, the Wizards might soon decide not to risk his long-term health on a lost season.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 4:00 PM

"Eddie is indeed being made the fall guy for a bunch of underachieving players, but shouldn't he shoulder some of the blame for failing to coach them above their own mediocrity? Four straight playoff appearances? Yes, but what about three first-round losses?"

Are you kidding? Getting them to the playoffs will the constant flow of injuries and lack of roster continuity was "coach(ing) them above their own mediocrity."

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 4:02 PM

"To me, you have to realize who you have as your cocah, and get him players that suits his style. If not, it's always a recipe for disaster."

No, as a coach you have to suit your style to the players you have, and put the best players on the court.

I wonder if Ernie would have picked up Songaila if he had had any idea Eddie would be playing him at the 5 for long stretches these past two seasons. Or that Eddie would keep playing AD the first few games this season when he clearly wasn't right, couldn't move laterally on defense, couldn't get to the rim on offense.

Look, we can all speculate, but none of us really knows what went down. Eddie is a player's coach and runs a good offense. If his key players have turned against him, he's lost one of his strengths. If he can't generate more than 94 ppg with two all stars on the floor, he's lost his other. This is basically the same team as last year, minus Mason and Haywood -- so why can't it score more points?

When all is said and done I'm not sure many coaches survive at 1-10. Eddie would have already been gone in many franchises.

Posted by: Prazak | November 24, 2008 4:09 PM

"They didn't know Haywood would need surgery (and miss most if not all of the season) until not long before the season started. The extent of injury to Daniels knee wasn't known until after the season started, in part because Daniels decided to try and play through it."

And you think Tapscott will have the services of BH, GA and a healthy Daniels? Whatever you say, Tapscott is still limited because he has no time to set-up the team the way he wants to. He inherited a team that is disorganize because of coaching incompetence. So are you writing your apology letter already? :-)

Posted by: Dave381 | November 24, 2008 4:13 PM

ok, so who is smiling now (privately)that Eddie is gone?
GA...probably so, even though EJ let him get away with his childish and boorish behaviour, he is so self-centered he doesnt really care. I bet Ernie's first priority is a coach who is not afraid to call GA out on behavior that is detrimental to the team.
CB...probably yes, he was tired of the same old crap.
BH...is celebrating big time; be careful with those high fives big fella, dont reinjure your wrist.
AJ...true pro, so probably not, but he will get over it.
DSteve...no, he knows he will be coming off the bench before the end of the season now.
DSong...no, he becomes a specialst.
AB...on my yes, though he will also feel the wrath of the new coach who also wont put up with his crap, but also wont do it a passive agressive disfunctional manner (ala EJ).
ET...probably not, he just becomes 5 fouls to use up in the paint.
The rest of the young bloods...hell yes!!!

Posted by: oddjob2 | November 24, 2008 4:24 PM

"He inherited a team that is disorganize because of coaching incompetence."

So if he goes 1-11 it'll still be Jordan's fault/

Brilliant logic.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 4:25 PM

"He inherited a team that is disorganize because of coaching incompetence."

I see. So if the team goes 1-10 under Tapscott, it'll still be Jordan's fault?

Brilliant logic.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 4:26 PM

It just seems that Jordan lost this team. I liked him as a coach. He did what no one else has been able to do around here since Dick Motta: get this team into the playoffs consistenly.

Grunfeld never seemed to warm up to EJ and refused to make the move to put this team into title contender status (Corey Maggette, Elton Brand in, Jamison, E Thomas and Arenas out). This team is cap-strapped for the next couple of years, & no playoffs in sight.

Posted by: jbwarren | November 24, 2008 4:29 PM

Anyone who thinks firing E-J is going to fix anything needs new meds. This is a sad, sad day for Washington and the Wizards.

The Wiz should have packaged some sort of trade before even thinking about pushing E-J out the door. He is the classiest thing to hit this town in a long, long time. Give him enough real players, and he gets the job does as well or better than most anyone out there.

You could bring a young Red Auerbach in right now or a Phil Jackson, and you would get the same results. The Wiz just flat don't have the personnel right now to win.

Posted by: loulor | November 24, 2008 4:30 PM

The team can't play D, not only should Jordan go but the rest of his staff too!!!!

Posted by: tudhuynh | November 24, 2008 4:34 PM

"I see. So if the team goes 1-10 under Tapscott, it'll still be Jordan's fault?"

Did I say that...mmmm let me read what I've written...mmm let me read it again....Nah, I don't see it. Do you?

Keep mourning.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 24, 2008 4:45 PM

Grunfeld must be twins as no one person could be that stupid!!!.Grunfeld and people like him are still why I believe in mercy killing...
bk

Posted by: rhk222 | November 24, 2008 4:48 PM

".Nah, I don't see it. Do you?"

Yep. Right here:

"Whatever you say, Tapscott is still limited because he has no time to set-up the team the way he wants to. He inherited a team that is disorganize because of coaching incompetence."

If you meant something else, please enlighten us. (This outta be good.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 4:50 PM

I like Eddie. Is the Tapscott thing a push for the top pick? I vote for Avery J, I like the idea of a little overachiever getting in the mug of big underachievers. I find myself watching way too much hockey.

Posted by: devans_design | November 24, 2008 4:51 PM

So you give Tapsccott a pass because he's "limited" by the previous coach's "incompetence" but Jordan gets no slack because he's missing two of his starters and one of his top reserves?

Brilliant logic.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 24, 2008 4:52 PM

"No, as a coach you have to suit your style to the players you have, and put the best players on the court."

I get some of that, and I think I would view this move differently if either Ernie or Eddie were new to this team, but these guys had been working together for 5 years, and should share the blame equally.

I'll grant you Eddie may have lost his players, but, it's also Ernie's job to get guys who can fit into whatever system you have.

That's why the Spurs are successful. They get guys who understand their roles on the team, and most importantly, they buy into how the Spurs play.

For example, the Wizards still haven't tried to acquire a big man who is either dominant, or can grow to be dominant since Kwame proved to be a bust.

So, you can't then solely blame the coach if the team can't rebound, consistently score inside, or defend the paint. (This statement clearly excludes McGee for now, b/c he's a rook.)

I'm not saying Eddie was perfect, just saying I think he's shouldering too much of the blame by losing his job, considering he doesn't acquire the players.

Posted by: kmarshall13 | November 24, 2008 4:54 PM

I feel very relieved, like the team finally has direction. We're going to get us a lottery pick!

Posted by: PostSubscriber | November 24, 2008 5:19 PM

Is this a joke?

Ed Tapscott?

I just read a blog touting his record (109-117) and local ties!
EXCUSE ME!
Abe should just roll on down to the bench and coach the team himself!!

Ed Tapscott!

If the Wizards need a FASHION COORDINATOR, Ed's their man. He does wear nice suits!

BUT NBA HEAD COACH!

ED TAPSCOTT!?!

I'm so shocked that I can't even laugh (Although I'm sure the rest of the NBA is ROFLTAO!)

Posted by: DudeCameron | November 24, 2008 5:50 PM

I don't think it matters much one way or the other as the Wizards are going nowhere. They seem to keep making bad move after bad move. It's no wonder why players who go elsewhere flurish. This is just a poor organization that only wants to be good enough to fill a few seats and doesn't either know how or care to be a competitive team.

Posted by: cnburgess | November 24, 2008 5:55 PM

Gotta love a guy like Grunfeld when he says on Ch.4 "the Wizards play got stale".

Hey Ernie. Ya know what's stale? The Bullets/Wizards management for the last 25 years.

Posted by: rg019571 | November 24, 2008 6:25 PM

Does this mean we will refer to Ed Tapscott as ET... then again we already have an ET... QUick someone more clever than me please come up with a short name for Tapscott!

Posted by: Samuraise | November 24, 2008 6:45 PM

Why all the fuss? Jordan deserved to be fired. His contract should never have been extended. It was obvious he had lost control of the team. This is a team with two all stars that can't play defense, can't shoot, can't pass, can't rebound and can't make foul shots. It's rotten to the core. This is Eddie Jordan's team and he deserved the boot. Good riddance. While Abe is in the firing mood, he should also show Grunfeld the door, who pissed away $111 million on damaged goods Arenas while he could not come up with a few shekels to keep Roger Mason Jr.

Posted by: bupbups | November 24, 2008 7:16 PM

Ed Tapscott??? I guess it could have been worse. Abe could have dusted off Wes Unseld or Susie O'Malley.

Posted by: bupbups | November 24, 2008 7:23 PM

I just hope the Wizards pick up Avery Johnson.

Posted by: leenetty | November 24, 2008 7:54 PM

Ivan Carter should resign! he's just a weasel apologist for eddie jordan and always has been

Posted by: bestmick1 | November 24, 2008 8:23 PM

Classic case of a coach being fire for having underachieving players? The coach is supposed to get the most out of his players and when he doesn't, he is at fault. Eddie never cared about defense and never made anyone on the squad accountable for defense. He also seemed absolutely clueless with who is deserving of minutes and at what spot. He never seemed to be a coach worth having on the sideline during a game. Instead he would regularly go with our worst defensive option, AJ at 4 and DS at 5, in hopes that we could out jump-shoot teams to victory. Leaving a hole in the middle like that will get you fired, playing blatche and mcgee combined 18 minutes against the knicks, when they were 7-11 for 15pts and the knicks had no size in the game, was the last straw. he reliably hurt the team with poor game management and his stubbornness will not missed. He tried to throw haywood under the bus a couple years ago and now look what happens, he goes out and you whimper about how your squad was built for him to have another career year and get fired at 1-10, my 3-15 guess was too generous. He was the longest tenured coach in the East for a reason, just making the playoffs is not success in the NBA, when you do not win big you get fired. Ignoring jamison's awful defense isn't constructive either. lets be real and address the situation, He needs help holding down the four, his rebounding should not fool you into thinking he has a post presence on d. Offensively he is incredibly skilled, hence the 12.5 mil per, but don't kid yourself and act like antawn is the model power forward, physical and controlling around the tin. Our size, Blatche, Mcgee and Mcguire are the only interior help we can get right now.

Posted by: bford1kb | November 24, 2008 9:10 PM

You guys got to be kidding me. This is EG's fault? PLEASE! This is probably the most talented roster the Wiz have had in 20 years. Yeah, they're injured, but even when healthy we are pathetic on defense and there seems to be no accountability for taking bad shots or playing bad defense. Well, AJ, GA, and Butler can do those things, but not Blatche or NY or JaVal. Just no discipline, hustle or basketball IQ on this team! That is ALL COACHING! Not to mention his substitutions.

Sally Jenkins article hit the nail on the head!

That being sad, I do feel bad for Eddie Jordan bc he is by all accounts a good man and a DC native.

- Rob P

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 24, 2008 10:04 PM

Hey Kdemko--- Be less hypocritical. Suggest that we try *to* do a better job, if grammar bothers you so much
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Does anyone edit this? I managed to read all the way to the bottom only because I love the Wizards so much, but I had to cringe the entire way because your grammar is atrocious and your spelling is nearly as bad. Please try and do a better job!

Posted by: kdemko | November 24, 2008 11:51 AM

Posted by: Urnesto | November 24, 2008 11:01 PM

From Abe to EG to the towel boy...this team needs to be blown up and start over. Anyone defending Jordan knows nothing about basketball...nothing....zero. Making to the playoffs in the NBA mean you are simply an average team. There are 30 teams in the NBA and 16 go to the first round....understand? We have been such a perennial loser for so long that we actually think making it the playoffs....16 out of 30 teams make it...remember...that we actually think that is enough. I guess if you give a starving person a cracker it tastes like filet mignon.

Posted by: dcfan1 | November 25, 2008 12:18 AM

Ignore the guy who's knocking Ivan. we appreciate everything ivan does for us. jerk.

Posted by: crs-one | November 25, 2008 12:31 AM

All he did was take a bad franchise to the playoffs every year with a top heavy mediocre team. Gil's a top ten player when healthy but that's become a rare occurrence... Jamison gets a quiet double double every game but you don't even know it until you look at the stats... Butler is a hardworking over achiever but he can't carry you for a full season without breaking down... So to me that's a middle of the pack top 3 players and it goes terribly down hill from there. They may be the worse team in the league after you get past the top three guys. And all Jordan did was get them to the playoffs every year. He'll be hired quickly... hopefully he'll hook up with a team with a better front office.


OH YEAH?? 16 OUT OF 30 TEAMS MAKE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS. THAT IS NO GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT. YOU ARE JUST USED TO LOSING THAT YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE A REAL CONTENDER.
BLOW THE WHOLE TEAM UP STARTING WITH UNCLE ABE AND WORK YOUR WAY DOWN TO THE TOWEL BOY.

Posted by: dcfan1 | November 25, 2008 12:32 AM

I repeat...

THIS SEASON HAS OFFICIALLY BECOME A "TANK".

THE ONLY RELEVANT QUESTION IS THIS:

WHO ARE THE TOP 5 PROSPECTS, AND ARE ANY OF THEM MARQUEE BIG MEN?

Answer: There are no Duncan's in next year's draft. IN fact, it is a weak draft and no 5 star athletes have emerged. But who cares? We have had lotter picks for 30 years and have failed miserably either judging the talent or developing the talent. So what makes you think anything will change now?

Posted by: dcfan1 | November 25, 2008 1:00 AM

"Yep. Right here:

"Whatever you say, Tapscott is still limited because he has no time to set-up the team the way he wants to. He inherited a team that is disorganize because of coaching incompetence."

Ahhhh, Nope. Your diversion won't work with me buddy. I guess you're in the denial stage now. :-)

My original question was if ET gets a better record in his first 11 games, will you send out an admission statement? I haven't received a yes or no answer yet.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 25, 2008 10:15 AM

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