Lineup Could Remain the Same

Coach Eddie Jordan said he will likely stick with Dee Brown and JaVale McGee as starters, at least for tomorrow night's game against the Houston Rockets at Verizon Center. Antonio Daniels, who missed four of the last five games with a sore right knee, practiced today and could go tomorrow night, but he may not start.

Jordan said he liked the way his team played during last night's 91-87 loss at Atanta, a game that was in his team's grasp until the Hawks nailed a couple of clutch three-pointers down the stretch.

"We're getting close," Jordan said. "We found harmony and rhythm last night. We started off the first quarter pretty well, we were moving the ball and we stayed in the quarter without falling far behind. ... So, it was a good showing for us."

But still not enough -- and the main culprit was rebounding. Led by Zaza Pachulia, who had 18 boards, Atlanta held a dominating 58-40 edge on the glass and a 22-7 advantage in second chance points.

-Ernie Grunfeld attends most practices and he was on hand as well today. As he often does, Grunfeld chatted with a few players as they left the practice court and generally, I get the idea that the entire organization is taking a "we're in this together" approach. Grunfeld declined interview requests for the day. When asked for his take on the state of the team, he did say: "One and eight. That's the state of the team."

By Ivan Carter |  November 20, 2008; 2:02 PM ET
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As I was watching the team walk back on the court for Atlanta's final shot, I remembered how at the very end of last year Eddie finally realized that Antawn shouldn't be in the game on final defensive possessions. It took a couple close losses but he figured it out. What happened? Did he forget? Why wasn't McGuire in?

Posted by: what5 | November 20, 2008 2:04 PM

If they'd taken care of the ball and made some shots down the stretch, defense wouldn't have been an issue.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 2:10 PM

I just posted on the previous entry...I guess i get my wish, at least for the next game. Javale against Yao...what a homework assignment


JOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY (Stimpy)

Posted by: BurgwithaU | November 20, 2008 2:13 PM

"We found harmony and rhythm last night. We started off the first quarter pretty well, we were moving the ball and we stayed in the quarter without falling far behind. ... So, it was a good showing for us." - EJ

Thats because you went with a different starting 5 which people here have been shouting for more than a week now. What a pathetic coach.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 20, 2008 2:20 PM

Ivan,

Your reluctance to question Eddie's sub patterns is getting a little ridiculous.

How can you mention our continued rebounding difficulties without also noting that Eddie continues to play a guy at center (Songaila) who has 1 rb in the last 30 minutes.

We gave up repeated offensive rebounds in the 3d quarter when he was covering ZaZa.

It's not like JaVale needed a rest. He only played 23 minutes.

Posted by: what5 | November 20, 2008 2:25 PM

Thats because you went with a different starting 5 which people here have been shouting for more than a week now. What a pathetic coach.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 20, 2008 2:20 PM

I'm always impressed by the know-it-all fans who clearly have a better head for basketball than NBA coaches. What insight I get from them!

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 2:38 PM

I wish a few tweaks to the sub patterns were all this team needed. I think what the team, beat writers and fans are all starting to realize is that we just don't have the personnel to compete night in night out. Best we can hope for is a terrible year, high draft pick, Arenas comes back healthy scenario like Miami this year.

Posted by: skins1976 | November 20, 2008 2:39 PM

Play Etan and McGee it's the only way

Posted by: RomulusBeatRemus | November 20, 2008 2:45 PM

Imagine if it's back before preseason and you're told that Javale McGee and Dee Brown will be inserted into the starting lineup by game 9.

Yikes!

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 2:45 PM

Johnnie_futbol - They're not "know it all" fans.....it was just pure common sense :-)

Posted by: Dave381 | November 20, 2008 2:46 PM

Play Etan and McGee it's the only way

Posted by: RomulusBeatRemus | November 20, 2008 2:46 PM

Well said skins1976, they should just face the music and see that they wasted 4yrs $50 million on Jamison and they are stuck with this group of guys for the next few years. The best thing to hope for is a high draft pick, bring in a guy like Blake Griffin and use this year to develop McGee, Young and McGuire, to gear up for the future. Take this losing season as a blessing and start letting guys contracts like Songaila, Thomas, Daniels, Haywood run out and get younger. Trade Jamison after his third year and hopefully a starting linup of McGee, Griffin, Butler, Young, Arenas will be enough to compete in the east in a few years.

Posted by: m_dozier | November 20, 2008 2:52 PM

Dave, it may seem like it's common sense to start someone like McGee, but it's 9 games in the season, and he's starting! That's EARLY for an inexperienced 20 year old scrawny but hyper athletic center. And it's not a good thing the Wiz have to rely on him, so I can certainly understand Jordan's reluctance.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 3:02 PM

I missed last night's game and it's the best I've felt as a wizard's fan all season so far. I agree with all comments above - the biggest problem is that even with a healthy pre-surgery superstar Arenas, brendan haywood, etan thomas, this team was never competitive beyond getting to the playoffs. Why is it that night in and night out, the current wizards are getting their butts kicked by some teams that are also shells of their normal or former versions of themselves - see Miami Heat. They have rookies and 2nd year players who are starting and they don't seem to blame mistakes and deficiencies on the "young guys". If you're a professional basketball player, you should be able to shoot free throws, you should arrive for the game ready to play, and you should be diving for loose balls, doing anything to win. It's as if the Wizards are in a different league. Turn on ESPN or TNT to watch the Lakers and the Cavs. Then turn to a Wizards v. Miami game and it's as if we are in a non-basketball playing part of the world. It's really frustrating.

Posted by: fedup1974 | November 20, 2008 3:03 PM

There are plenty of rookies starting on other teams.

And its not a big risk to start a rookie center when the "veteran" starter is the worst center in the league. At best you could argue he is better than Johan Petro.

So, when a rookie is the only true center on your roster, it isn't a shocking move to start him. Remember, Eddie started Etan over Brendan as well.

This isn't about reluctance to start a young rookie. Its about stubborn adherence to underperforming veterans.

Posted by: what5 | November 20, 2008 3:12 PM

NO surprise with last night's game.

I haven't watched it yet, but recorded it, but the box score shows that AJ went to the line ZERO times again.

That means he's still busy shooting long J's and dipsy doo's when he should be in the paint and making his man pay on the free throw line.

AJ is useless...just a stats guy.

EJ's time is up. How many seasons and how many more excuses will be made?

DS is one of the most overrated defensive specialists ever. Still needs to stop with that "can't feel my face" wave and focus on the game.

Juan is a streaky shooter. He can't get hot playing spotty 15 minutes.

The much ballyhooed JaTravel McGoo started and got 5 pts and no blocks. He's got upside, but he's a few years away from making any sort of consistent impact.

EG'd had better make some moves or Abe should show him the door too, just like he showed MJ.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 3:22 PM

Javale is starting. Haven't you noticed?

But Eddie was right to start the season leaning on his veterans. They didn't cut it and *early* in the season Eddie's using alternative starting lineups. He's trying many things and none of them really are working. There are no good solutions to injuries to 3 of your best players.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 3:28 PM

DCMann88, is it possible ever in your lifetime you'll actually root FOR a team rather than for their failure?

In all my life I've never seen a sports fan like you.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 3:29 PM

"DCMann88, is it possible ever in your lifetime you'll actually root FOR a team rather than for their failure?

In all my life I've never seen a sports fan like you.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 3:29 PM "

Is it possible for you to realize that nobody on this blog has any effect on the success or failure of Les BouleS no matter how much you cheer or how much you deal the cold hard truth?

You dude, are either really gullible, or really st....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 3:36 PM

Its sad to say that eddie is probably right and this game was a step in the right direction but with that we were unable to beat a hawks team missing two key pieces, although I'd say joe johnson is their most valuable player, not squeaking by this hawks squad is still very troublesome. Our defense is flat out awful and we have no real rebounding muscle. Mcgee should continue to start and should not get pulled for songaila after seeing 2 minutes in the second half, we needed the length for rebounding and some sense of an interior presence. So far Mcgee is averaging 8.5 p, 5.9 r, 1.0 b in 21 min, if extrapolate these numbers to haywood's 28 mins you get 11.1 p, 7.7 r, 1.3 b. These are better scoring and rebounding numbers in his first 8 NBA games than haywood put up in his 7th season which was also a career year for the veteran. Haywood did average 0.4 b more but there is no way he forced offenses to alter as many shots as mcgee has been able to, guard don't enjoy trying to finish on a guy with a 7'6" wingspan. Increase his workload, there is not a single night where he shouldn't see 30 minutes.

Posted by: bford1kb | November 20, 2008 3:40 PM

You dude, are either really gullible, or really st....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 3:36 PM

I was delusional too, johnny footballs. Thanks to ppl like DCMan88 and Kalorama, I learned to be realistic. Lower your expectations. Be a hater. You'll sleep better.

Posted by: prescrunk | November 20, 2008 3:47 PM

@bford1kb:
I'm with you man. And Nick Young. I mean, at this point we're just hoping to be in the playoff race when Arenas gets back. AND that we can stay in playoff contention until he gets his legs back. Probably not going to be a playoff season for the wiz, when you look at it. So, might as well get as many minutes for the youngsters as we can. Then hopefully, they'll be ready to rip next year.

Posted by: Matte | November 20, 2008 3:54 PM

Is it possible for you to realize that nobody on this blog has any effect on the success or failure of Les BouleS no matter how much you cheer or how much you deal the cold hard truth?

You dude, are either really gullible, or really st....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 3:36 PM

wow, what on earth would make you think that I believe this blog has any effect whatsoever on the wizards? you're the one who posts on here ad nauseum.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 3:55 PM

DCMAN88: come on man, Javale may be a few years away, but do you really think the Poet is a better option. That man is a D-League Player at best. He is now "considered" a veteran and has a career average of 6pts and 4rbs. And yet EG rewards him with big millions. HAHA.

Javale IS THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW. Until Brendan returns Javale should be playing 35-40 mins a game, seriously. I truly mean it. He will develop a lot quicker. It's not that he is that good right now, it's that Etan is THAT BAD. Think about it man.

Posted by: cj658 | November 20, 2008 3:57 PM

The real question is what are we gonna do with Blatch? Do we sink another year into trying to let him grow? Or do we trade him and watch him possibly blossom somewhere else? I mean, the kid's only 22, right? 21 maybe. He's young. You know EG is thinking about trying to make a deal, and I think the most dealable piece on the roster is Blatch. He's not performing for us, but he's not stuck in a huge contract, and he's still got tremendous upside. We might be able to parlay him into some more firepower in the backcourt, or maybe some reliable defense in the frontcourt. What do you guys think? Trade him or keep him? And what could we get for him?

Posted by: Matte | November 20, 2008 3:57 PM

At least there is the Capitals.

Seriously, Honest Abe and EG should take notes from McPhee and Leonsis. They built a winner and one of the best young teams in the league. They built it through the draft, and holding on to guys who play up to potential and are not constantly hurt in a far more physical game. Seriously, I'm a die hard Wiz fan, but this is becoming a hockey town before our eyes. For the amount of money abe and ernie have spent, that is truly sad. A caps game has twice the excitement as a wizards game now. Way to go Abe and Ernie.

Seriously, if you are not yet a hockey fan, give it a shot. It's all we got at the Verizon Center right now.

Posted by: cj658 | November 20, 2008 4:00 PM

you're the one who posts on here ad nauseum.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 3:55 PM


footballs has posted 8x since 2:45.

DC Man88 has posted twice.

Les Boulez have won once.

Posted by: prescrunk | November 20, 2008 4:01 PM

Or how bout this? Songaila, Daniels and Blatch to Detroit for Prince.

Posted by: Matte | November 20, 2008 4:01 PM

Or maybe the same package to LA for Odom. We victimized them in the Crummy Brown trade. Maybe they'd be up for a straight swap, Blatch for Odom.

Posted by: Matte | November 20, 2008 4:03 PM

Its sad to say that eddie is probably right and this game was a step in the right direction, but with that, we were unable to beat a hawks team missing two key pieces, although joe johnson is their most valuable player, not squeaking by this hawks squad is still very troublesome. Our defense is flat out awful and we have no real rebounding muscle. Mcgee should continue to start and should not get pulled for songaila after seeing 2 minutes in the second half, we needed the length for rebounding and some sense of an interior presence. So far Mcgee is averaging 8.5 p, 5.9 r, 1.0 b in 21 min, if extrapolate these numbers to haywood's 28 mins you get 11.1 p, 7.7 r, 1.3 b. These are better scoring and rebounding numbers in his first 8 NBA games than haywood put up in his 7th season which was also a career year for the veteran. Haywood did average 0.4 b more but there is no way he forced offenses to alter as many shots as mcgee has been able to; guards don't enjoy trying to finish on a guy with a 7'6" wingspan. Increase his workload, there is not a single night where he should see less than 30 minutes. Dee Brown did a better job steadying the rhythm than dixon, unless ad is back in full he should start. Mcguire would help our defense and rebounding much more so than either songaila or pech, please don't play either european. How does Blatche get less minutes than last year with haywood going out? he's become everyone's favorite whipping boy from the coach, to the media, to the fans, does anyone intend to give him a real chance? He needs an increased role to help inside, don't match him up on joe johnson even if it means jamison gets embarrassed. Jamison is the worst defensive pf in the league who starts. Eddie should notice this and start blatche, or even etan, at the four bumping jamison to the three and caron to the two, then pick a guard, any guard, to play at point. Thats your best five. Also don't you think a zone would help this team which is unable to rotate, play smart help d (i.e. not leaving the likes of chris quinn wide open from 3 so you can desperately reach-in), rebound or close out on shooters with any level of efficiency.

Posted by: bford1kb | November 20, 2008 4:03 PM

While I have no problem with McGee starting or getting the bulk of the minutes at C (which isn't the same as saying I think it's the best idea, BTW), the only thing McGee is "THE ANSWER" to is the question "which of the Wizards underwhelming C options is the most viable right now?"

Hardly a ringing endorsement. The fact that McGee is the best option is simply a sign of how limited this team's options are.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 4:08 PM

How about Ovechkin last night?? What a game!! Semin should be back tonight.

Posted by: cj658 | November 20, 2008 4:08 PM

As for going zone ... zone defenses are pretty much a gimmick in the NBA. They can be used in spot situations as a change of pace, but they're rarely effective as a primary defensive strategy in the NBA.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 4:11 PM

Kalo rama: I agree, that is pretty much what I was trying to say. the poet is just SO BAD, and AB is looking like garbo also. Why not play the guy (javale) 35-40 mins and let him learn on the fly. It's the best. If he plays 40 mins, for the rest of the year, I guarantee he averages at least 15 and 9 and 2 blocks. Not bad for a rookie??

Posted by: cj658 | November 20, 2008 4:11 PM

"Dave, it may seem like it's common sense to start someone like McGee, but it's 9 games in the season, and he's starting! That's EARLY for an inexperienced 20 year old scrawny but hyper athletic center. And it's not a good thing the Wiz have to rely on him, so I can certainly understand Jordan's reluctance."

Johnny boy, 9 games and they're 1-8. I think that record speaks for itself. Change should have been made but it's EJ character to be stubborn. It doesn't take a Phil Jackson to realize that Etan wasn't getting it done.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 20, 2008 4:15 PM

Regarding all of the trade speculation above, experience suggests that EG will not do anything hasty but will wait, once again, for Gilbert to get back. But--anyone can see that even if the young bigs get better offensively and make fewer mistakes this team will not survive, even with Gilbert, unless they get some rebounding help. And you'll never get that from AB, or Songaila, or Etan. I'd expect him to try to get a rebounder somewhere, somehow.

Posted by: jweber1 | November 20, 2008 4:18 PM

I love it when people on the internet make "guarantees" for pro athletes. Just love it.

If he plays 40 minutes the rest of the year, he'll likely end up injured before the all-star break and worn down by the end of the season. Only elite/all-star caliber players play 40 mpg, and that's because their teams need them to win. Playing him 40 mpg would be pretty foolish.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 4:20 PM

From Ivan: "generally, I get the idea that the entire organization is taking a 'we're in this together' approach."

Somebody should make sure Eddie Jordan gets a copy of that memo. He certainly hadn't read it when he threw his players under the bus in the press conference after the Miami game on Tuesday.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | November 20, 2008 4:21 PM

The train has left the station re: picking up a bigman who could rebound....the Wiz could have signed Ronny Turiaff as a Restricted FA as easy as Golden State, but EG used all of cap space re-signing Agent Zero and Jamison. His instructions from Abe Pollin are simple: field a competitive team that puts fans in the seats but don't go a $ over the luxury cap to get better. That's why he keeps saying they're waiting on Gilbert....

No way this team could take the next step even with a healthy Agent Zero and BTH in the fold. You'd still be looking at 44 wins and a first round exit. Until this team is sold or completely gutted, we'll see more of the same. I'm waiting for the day that Abe sells the team to Ted Leonsis who turned around the Capitals...

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 20, 2008 4:29 PM

"If he plays 40 minutes the rest of the year, he'll likely end up injured before the all-star break and worn down by the end of the season. Only elite/all-star caliber players play 40 mpg, and that's because their teams need them to win. Playing him 40 mpg would be pretty foolish."

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 4:20 PM

Classic post by Kalorama. He wants to -- surprise, surprise -- criticize someone's idea of playing McGee 40 minutes a game, so he says McGee will end up injured and worn down. Then, remembering how in the past he has criticized posters who claim Eddie Jordan's playing of Caron, Jamison and Arenas 40 minutes a game has caused them to be injured and worn down, Kalorama adds that coaches SHOULD do that because those players are needed to win. Um, if they are needed to win, shouldn't the coach try to keep them healthy and not worn down?

Kalorama, you've made so many unsupportable arguments over the years, eventually every new argument you want to make will be inconsistent with a previous argument. So don't worry about it -- just let it fly.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | November 20, 2008 4:31 PM

While I have no problem with McGee starting or getting the bulk of the minutes at C (which isn't the same as saying I think it's the best idea, BTW), the only thing McGee is "THE ANSWER" to is the question "which of the Wizards underwhelming C options is the most viable right now?"

Hardly a ringing endorsement. The fact that McGee is the best option is simply a sign of how limited this team's options are.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 4:08 PM

E X A C T L Y

You know, since JaVale's breakout game against the Jazz, he's averaged the following during 3 games:

Mins: 25
Pts: 8.3
Rebs: 4.3
Blks: 0.3

During games 3 through 6 (4 games total including the stellar Utah and NY games) he averaged:

Mins: 22
Pts: 10.75
Rebs: 8
Blks: 1.5

We're talking about a very small sample size but it's certainly possible opposing teams have quickly figured out how to limit McGee's effectiveness.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 4:35 PM

Kalorama, you've made so many unsupportable arguments over the years, eventually every new argument you want to make will be inconsistent with a previous argument. So don't worry about it -- just let it fly.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | November 20, 2008 4:31 PM

the pot calls the kettle black... I think Kalorama does a great job of just stating the facts. This time is no different.

Rookies almost always trail off in health /production by the all star break because their bodies have never played more than 40 games (at most) per season. JaTravel has never played more than 33 games, averaging 27 mpg.

Posted by: prescrunk | November 20, 2008 4:40 PM

disgruntledfan, your screen name speaks for itself. I was all set to blast your pile of dung to pieces but I see others beat me to it.

But, because I'm in a playful mood, I will take a blast at this little gem:

"Um, if they are needed to win, shouldn't the coach try to keep them healthy and not worn down? "

Um ...(I love it when people start posts off with this, like it's the cleverest thing they've ever thought of) hey numbnuts:

When it comes to winning games, is it possible that (A) keeping your 3 best players on the bench is probably not the best strategy and (B) in your finite wisdom you'd be able to discern any qualitative difference between a rookie who's played 9 NBA games coming off two years at a college of no particular bball distinction versus three all-star caliber vets? No, of course you can't.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 4:54 PM

owned

Posted by: prescrunk | November 20, 2008 5:04 PM

wizfan89

Thank God someone else agrees with me. I thought I was going crazy posting my comments about Abe and then reading everyone's comments that it's the players, coach and/or GM. It starts at the top. Look at what George W. did to this country if you don't believe me. I won't get into politics since this is a Wizard blog.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 20, 2008 5:24 PM

If we were healthy we could have won a championship the past two years.

Posted by: Wittan | November 20, 2008 5:34 PM

Fox Sports.com just quoted Gilbert Arenas saying he will be back Jan 1st for sure he will be "good to go" for forty minutes also Gilbert said it would benefit the Wizards to finish last so they could be in the lottery, go figure.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 20, 2008 6:04 PM

Quote: "Kalorama, you've made so many unsupportable arguments over the years, eventually every new argument you want to make will be inconsistent with a previous argument."

I'm still pondering Kallie's statement that the Wiz are way over the luxury cap.

Posted by: Izman | November 20, 2008 6:05 PM

Top 6 guys should be JaVale, Blatche, Jamison, Caron, Young, Dixon.

Off the bench should be Etan, McGuire, Daniels...

That's the best 9 man rotation we should be going with right now and for the future.


Stop playing DeShawn at pg. Blatche needs to get a clue real fast.

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 20, 2008 6:08 PM

"wow, what on earth would make you think that I believe this blog has any effect whatsoever on the wizards? you're the one who posts on here ad nauseum.

Posted by: johnnie_futbol | November 20, 2008 3:55 PM "

So, let me do what I do, and that is to deliver the cold hard truth....

I wouldn't be having this dialogue with you had you not made a comment to me.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 6:16 PM

"DCMAN88: come on man, Javale may be a few years away, but do you really think the Poet is a better option. That man is a D-League Player at best. He is now "considered" a veteran and has a career average of 6pts and 4rbs. And yet EG rewards him with big millions. HAHA.

Javale IS THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW. Until Brendan returns Javale should be playing 35-40 mins a game, seriously. I truly mean it. He will develop a lot quicker. It's not that he is that good right now, it's that Etan is THAT BAD. Think about it man.

Posted by: cj658 | November 20, 2008 3:57 PM "

I personally do not care if JaTravel starts or doesn't.

Either way, I will offer a critique on his performance, or lack there of.

I will say though that ET is more of a 4 than 5.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 6:19 PM

"footballs has posted 8x since 2:45.

DC Man88 has posted twice.

Les Boulez have won once.

Posted by: prescrunk | November 20, 2008 4:01 PM "

I guess this would be considered "OWNED!!"

LMFAO!!!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 6:21 PM

"I'm still pondering Kallie's statement that the Wiz are way over the luxury cap."

Well, since I never said anything of the kind, I could imagine how that would be a real head scratcher.

I have said, more than once, that they were "over the cap." However, unlike most people here, I actually know the difference between the salary cap and the luxury tax ceiling.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 6:24 PM

"Fox Sports.com just quoted Gilbert Arenas saying he will be back Jan 1st for sure he will be "good to go" for forty minutes also Gilbert said it would benefit the Wizards to finish last so they could be in the lottery, go figure.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 20, 2008 6:04 PM "

What a great strategy/advice from the leader of the team.

I wonder if this gives Abe warm and fuzzies at night knowing that he spent 161 mil in the offseason for a trip to the lottery.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 6:27 PM

Here's the assessment on Les BouleS's losses to date:

Lost to 4 teams who were in the lottery last season. Of those 4 teams, they lost to one team twice.

Lost to 4 teams with new coaches and new systems. One of those teams twice.

Knicks loss, of course, where both Marbury and Curry did not play.

Lost to Atlanta who was missing two of their most important starters...Josh Smith (13.6 & 7.4) and Al Horford (10 & 9.5).

There is absolutely NO valid reason why Les BouleS shouldn't be 8-1 instead of 1-8.

The reality is that the team is fragmented, the players unsure of their role, and the coaching strategy is unstable. This coming from a "player's" coach who's the 2nd longest tenured coach in the league.

Les BouleS is the WORST team in the league right now. There is no other 1-x, 2-x, 3-x, or 4-x teams that were in the playoffs last season. In fact, there are many 5-x teams that were in the lottery last season.

I can't see how EG can sit still and let this situation stew for 73 more games and expect more patience from the fans by expecting them to continue to come to the games and support the team when management isn't doing whatever it takes to win.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 7:16 PM

LMFAO!!!!

DID ANYONE ON THIS BLOG KNOW THAT LES BOULES ARE WORKING WITH A NEW PLAYBOOK THIS SEASON?!?!?!

IS IT CALLED THE UDC (University of DC) OFFENSE NOW?!?!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3715803

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 7:44 PM

"I'm still pondering Kallie's statement that the Wiz are way over the luxury cap."

Well, since I never said anything of the kind, I could imagine how that would be a real head scratcher.

I have said, more than once, that they were "over the cap." However, unlike most people here, I actually know the difference between the salary cap and the luxury tax ceiling.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 20, 2008 6:24 PM

LMFAO!!

Posted by: forbid | November 20, 2008 8:15 PM

"Grunfeld declined interview requests for the day."

That's because he knows me made a crappy team and doesn't wanna hear about it.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 20, 2008 8:54 PM

It's now official. The Wiz are bottom-feeders. Why bother watching them? More fun to watch the fat guy on the travel channel eating insects. Then again, for a real NBA team to play the Wiz IS kind of like eating an insect.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | November 20, 2008 10:54 PM

Eddie did change the lineup, but he did not stick with it. Imagine, if the cake you are baking keeps coming out bad cause you put too much ET and DSon in it, so you alternate the amount time of ET at a different point in the cooking process and still use DSon the same way, will the cake still come out bad?

Answer, Yes It Will.

This show ain't going nowhere with them two EJ wannabe centers taking up valuable playing time. All the Center minutes should go to JM, DM, and AB.

Word to the wise, this team has to run and gun, they have to have other teams literally busting their butts to keep them from scoring the ball. They have the speed and the talent to do it. They must play this way, because it will literally wear their oponents down trying to stop them and the benefit of this is it will make it abundantly easier for them to defense their opponents. Do not put any value in AD running point, he also deserves no PT, just like ET and DSon.

If you been checking by blogs you might have noticed that ET, DSon, and AD are the only three players that I say should be benched. Thats because these three guys can't run, or, they kill chemistry.

You know, my Daddy use to say, "Boy if you wanna play ball with the Big Dogs you better be Runnin and Gunnin and Shaking and Baking cause if you ain't, you might as well take your ball and go home".

You know, My Daddy Was Right.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 21, 2008 12:56 AM

I couldn't have agree more Larry re Etan and Songalia's PT. When BTH got hurt I predicted that the Wizards will be in the lottery and I'm still convince that they will be. They've overachieved last season and finally reality has set in. I have not given up though on AB. I believe with a different coach AB will still blossom to a very good player.

Posted by: Dave381 | November 21, 2008 9:55 AM

DID ANYONE ON THIS BLOG KNOW THAT LES BOULES ARE WORKING WITH A NEW PLAYBOOK THIS SEASON?!?!?!

IS IT CALLED THE UDC (University of DC) OFFENSE NOW?!?!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 20, 2008 7:44 PM

pwned! rotflmfao

Posted by: prescrunk | November 21, 2008 11:08 AM

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