Wade Takes Over

Well, it was kind of a game until Dwyane Wade went all Teen Wolf for that short stretch of the the third quarter and blew the Wizards off the court. Not long after Caron Butler cut Miami's lead to 56-50 by cutting back door and taking a nice pass from Darius Songaila before throwing down a dunk, Wade drove baseline and made a reverse layup, drove, drew the defense and dished to Udonis Haslem for an easy score, hit a three-pointer over DeShawn Stevenson and threw down a putback down.

Just like that it was 65-50 Heat and the game was over.


The ugly numbers for the Wizards: 40.8 percent shooting, only 12 assists against 13 turnovers and only six fastbreak points. The ball movement was lacking as was anything resembling a physical presence in the paint which is why the smaller Heat finished with a 52-33 edge in rebounding. That's terrible.

So much for Washington's advantage in size.

"You might as well have (5-foot-6) guys if you're not going to fight," Coach Eddie Jordan said. "If you're not going to defend the rim, come over and take people's space away and initiate the contact. We didn't have that from our bigs. I thought Antawn (Jamison) brought it up another notch in that regard but the others didn't."



By Ivan Carter |  November 14, 2008; 10:59 PM ET
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Caron Butler scored a total of 6 points. They'll lose 95% of the games where Caron's that bad. He needs to do something. Chew more straws, something.

Posted by: satchmore | November 14, 2008 11:20 PM

Isn't it amaazing that Eddie still hasn't commented on the selfishness of Caron and Antawn on offense? Those guys take more bad shots in one quarter than most "all-stars" do in an entire game. Even when the Wiz beat the Jazz on Wednesday they only had 13 assists. Until Eddie cracks the whip and makes that ball move, the Wiz are going to continue to stink it up!

Posted by: Firuz1 | November 14, 2008 11:20 PM

"I thought Antawn (Jamison) brought it up another notch in that regard but the others didn't.""

EJ still doesn't get it.

I took him two years of rants on this blog to convince him that small ball doesn't work.

Now, EJ thinks that AJ "brought it up a notch" on D with the blowout loss to the Heat.

What game was he watching?

Can someone check his prescription.

AJ was unequivocally clowned tonight on D.

He couldn't do anything to stop anyone he "guarded."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 11:29 PM

When I say 13 assists I mean the Wiz team had a total of 13 assists.

Posted by: Firuz1 | November 14, 2008 11:32 PM

I think Ernie needs to make a move, not a blowup move, but the vets: Etan, Songaila, Stevenson and Daniels really bring nothing. Etan seems he cant do anything out there, no offense or Defense, or rebound. Songaila brings some O but no D, Stevenson is above average on D, and Daniels cant score and doesnt defend well.

Blatche should be shopped too...he gives effort one night and none the next and is way too soft. Someone will probably take a wild gamble on him and give us a steal like the Caron trade for Kwame, EG did it once I hope he can do it again.

Posted by: mikejc80 | November 14, 2008 11:37 PM

I personally thought Etan had an OK game given that he only played 16 min.

I think they are trying to work him back slowly.

He's clearly no center, but he can play some D, hustles, and has a few post moves.

He's definitely not a starter, and is clearly overpaid, but all in all, he's doing what he can do.

It's not really the scrubs who lost this game.

It's the all stars that let this get out of hand. And then some mid level vets didn't produce.

Not only did AJ not play any sort of D whatsoever, and got clowned. He spent his time on the offensive end jacking J's and shooting dipsy doo's.

As a result, he made zero trips to the FT line.

Has anyone ever heard of an all star PF in the league that doesn't get to the line often?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2008 11:46 PM

Eddie is now officially the worst coach in the NBA. McGee had an excellent game against Utah and Eddie rewards him with a whopping 7 1st half minutes. Then to compound things he starts Songolia in the 2nd half. Didn’t Eddie study any film of the Heat’s last game against the Trailblazers? They dominated Miami on the boards by playing a big line up. Good coaches would have learned from this but not Ed! No, our coach was going to show them he could match up by sticking with a useless Etan.

I’m getting pretty tired of people making excuses for Eddie. Let’s be real about it, what other team can Etan start on? What about Stevenson? What other team in the NBA can he start on? NONE!!! So why are they starting for us when we have alternatives? We can’t continue to spot teams 10+ points before the subs enter the game and mount a comeback because they aren’t always going to be able to do it.
FIRE EDDIE FIRE EDDIE FIRE EDDIE FIRE EDDIE FIRE EDDIE FIRE EDDIE FIRE EDDIE FIRE EDDIE

Posted by: dhbond | November 14, 2008 11:54 PM

If players dont really listen to EJ, then its time we need a new voice, a new coach. Plyers seem to lost respect to him nowaday. its time to fire EJ. SAYONARA

Posted by: forbid | November 15, 2008 12:21 AM

EJ totally lost his team

Posted by: forbid | November 15, 2008 12:23 AM

There is a guy named Tony that called in to Sports 980 after the game tonight and he calls himself the Princeton Offense Tony. He's been driving home the point that EJ is lousy at having his team use the Princeton Offense and that EJ has not grown as a coach for the Wizs. He says that EJ is constantly outcoached and that also is the primary reason why they could not beat Cleveland in the playoffs.

I totally agree with this guy. The Princeton Offense is a way to outscore your opponents when you do not match up to their talent level.

If you ain't scoring, ain't no defense in the world gonna help you.

All the folks on TV and radio for some reason are not calling for EJ's replacement. And most of us bloggers keep saying trade this guy and that guy.

I say fire EJ and use the players you have the right way. Hire that Duke coach or that Carolina coach that is currently on the bench and let these guys Run and Gun!!!

Gilbert Arenas had it right two years ago when he told Charles Barkley when the Wizs was number two in scoring in the NBA that their offense was what was winning games for them. Folks if you are number two in the NBA in scoring, that simply means that the other teams are not beating you defensely. It took EJ to the ALLSTAR game as coach, then he started listening to Charles Barkely who has never won a ring and others and shifted his focus from offense to defense. It screwed up their 2nd half chemistry and they literally limped to the playoffs trying to focus on defense and not realizing that there offense in the first half of the season was their best defense. Poor Eddie. He has got to go!!!

I can't make it any clearer. LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 15, 2008 12:28 AM


I dont quite get y AJ try to say all the right thing and blame some of the young guys (such as blatche) especially what all he does is jackin up threes instead of plyin down low that bs!, what a leader, jackin up all kind of shots and even more ply no D, EJ must be blind for sayin AJ bring his A game or watever

Posted by: forbid | November 15, 2008 12:29 AM

think ESPN will drop the Wizards game again on Friday vs. Houston?

Posted by: rxs85 | November 15, 2008 12:30 AM

I say fire EJ and use the players you have the right way. Hire that Duke coach or that Carolina coach that is currently on the bench and let these guys Run and Gun!!!

Gilbert Arenas had it right two years ago when he told Charles Barkley when the Wizs was number two in scoring in the NBA that their offense was what was winning games for them. Folks if you are number two in the NBA in scoring, that simply means that the other teams are not beating you defensely. It took EJ to the ALLSTAR game as coach, then he started listening to Charles Barkely who has never won a ring and others and shifted his focus from offense to defense. It screwed up their 2nd half chemistry and they literally limped to the playoffs trying to focus on defense and not realizing that there offense in the first half of the season was their best defense. Poor Eddie. He has got to go!!!

I can't make it any clearer. LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 15, 2008 12:28 AM

u say to hire "a duke coach" and u can not even name him lol wat a joke

Posted by: forbid | November 15, 2008 12:31 AM

Forbid:
Whoa, You got me, My mistake. Don't know why I thought Ayers was a Duke Alumni. But since he aint a Dukie, I guess that just leaves that Carolina Blue Fellow, Mike O'Koren.

Forbid, you copied half my blog just to point out my mistake. I ain't mad. At least I now know that Randy is not a Dukie. I prefer them dar Tarheels anyway. Thanks for being alive out there.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 15, 2008 1:08 AM

Saying you might as well have guys who are 5'6 is ridiculous when you have young 7 footers who combined saw 11 minutes in the first half, we need mcgee and blatche to play 30 minutes apiece. Jamison cant help the interior d and neither can songaila or thomas.

Posted by: bford1kb | November 15, 2008 1:22 AM

Get use to losing Wizard fans. This organization will not go a penny over the luxury cap and you think the old man will fire EJ? That would mean he would have to pay him for nothing and sense he is already doing nothing Abe will never fire him. As far as making a trade goes don’t you think the other teams know what the people on this site know? Every other GM besides EG knows theses players suck. No team would have signed AJ, ET, DS or Gil for the amount the Wizards did. This is what we get to live with for the next 4 years. Look on the bright side if they lose enough games they will get a better draft pick. Unfortunately with EG in charge he will either screw it up or the old man will tell him to trade the pick like they did with Devin Harris because you have to pay high draft picks what they are worth. That is why this team is built with second round draft picks and backups no other teams want.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 15, 2008 1:40 AM

Bulletsfan78, you might be just a little to tough. You are talking about a playoff team least you forget. Yes, to many of fans like you don't realize that playoff teams don't suck. And Ernie Grunfield will get the job done and Eddie Jordan won't be around when it happens.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 15, 2008 2:09 AM

Coach, what coach...he is clueless.
Like I have said, a coach sees before the fans.
No ball movement, an inept starting lineup night after night.
No sensible rotation, and of course his doghouse rules.
If you think it is the players, please take a look at NY Knicks, Miami, Atlanta...what a difference coaching makes, esp in a game of 5 players.
To start Songalia in the 2nd half...
I actually record the game and fast forward to when the young guys are in. Otherwise it is totally futile to watch.
Sad to say though, as long as current ownership has control, nothing is going to change. It starts at the top, and we know EJ is loved in the luxury box.

Posted by: maxman2162 | November 15, 2008 2:29 AM

One other point, I live in Baltimore, you know the former home of the Bullets before AP, hustled them to DC.
We have finally learned what difference coaching can make with the long awaited demise of Brian Billick, the arrogant and wordy former head coach.
His dismissal and hiring of a young and dynamic head coach in Harbaugh, has made football enjoyable again here.
He actually plays the young gifted players, and they have infused energy and enjoyment into the team and fan base.
But the coaching change would not have happened, with the previous Modell ownership, like Abe and EJ, Modell loved BB.

Posted by: maxman2162 | November 15, 2008 2:35 AM

It appears that the Wizards learned how to play defense by watching And1 videos.

You can complain about Etan or Blatche or whomever, but the story of the season so far is how Jamison and especially Butler have been no shows. You need stars to win in the league, and right now, the Wizards have nothing approaching an all-star. I watched Butler closely on defense last night, and he just stands around or gambles for steals. The only guys who ever box someone out are Blatche and Songalia. The level of effort just isn't there.

Perhaps Eddie needs to shake things up by stripping Jamison and Butler of their status as team captains. Or Grunfeld needs to fire Jordan.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | November 15, 2008 7:06 AM

When attendance dives because they're not winning, that's when you'll see Abe Pollin pressure EG and EG pressure or dump EJ. AP is a businessman first and when his business is failing, he'll make some moves.

Posted by: jweber1 | November 15, 2008 7:14 AM

I've always been a fan of Jordan. His b-ball acumen, smarts and old skool discipline helped put this team back on the map after years in the NBA wilderness. While he's always lacked the fire to inspire players - or scare them as Phil Jackson does - his yeoman's approach has brought respectable results. After four early exits from the playoffs, however, it appears he has lost his players. Coaches need heart, fire and player respect. Too often, Jordan just seems irritated, morose and, recently, kind of depressed. Sticking too long with unproductive vets, criticizing players and finding out about player's intentions (Gilby coming back to play after his injury) through the press, poor team D, rebounding, fundamentals and listlessness and a 1-6 start are all signs that Jordan's effectiveness has reached an end. NBA coaches have a short life span for a reason: if they do not have a perennial high level of success, cracks form in the locker room and they slowly lose their players to whom the same repetitive exhortations slowly become background noise. Eddie Jordan has proven he belongs in the NBA, but maybe he has reached the end of his natural coaching cycle here and should move on.

Posted by: SammyT1 | November 15, 2008 8:37 AM

I agree EJ needs to be fired and replaced with someone like Avery Johnson or Tom Thibodeu who can emphasize defense and rebounding which wins championships. EJ has a bad rotation and seems to be unable to motivate his players.This will not happen soon. So, if you are reading this EJ and EG, here is a rotation that can win now:
AJ- sf
Blatche- pf
McGee-C
Butler- sg
Stevenson-pg

Bench
Young-sg
Songaila-pf
Petch-C

AD can be starter at pg when healthy moving Stevenson to the bench.

IF GILBERT COMES BACK THIS YEAR, plug him in as starting pg. But I think he is out all year.

The rest of the players get garbage time if any.

Trades will be hard to do though veteran AJ and his stinking poor defense to Portland for some youth (aldridge? sergio?)might be atractive if Oden plays well. I still want Camby in the middle but I know many wiz fans think he is over-rated. I do not agree but he may be hard to get from Clips since wiz have little to offer. I am starting to feel like Blatche is the new Kwame but he needs more time.

As it stands, this is not the championship team old Abe wants so badly and he is not ready to blow it up since he wants a champion soon and is very sick. Sad but that is what "continuity" really means.

I am hoping for a shot at Ricky Rubio in the draft at this point.

Posted by: wizfanatic | November 15, 2008 8:53 AM

Sorry, guys, EJ may not be the best coach in the league, but pathetic showings like this are not his fault. He's been saddled with a dysfunctional team.

For example, who enters a season with a bunch of mediocre 2-guards and not a single legitimate point guard (I'm not counting Brown, who's a scrub)? And a bunch of bad power forwards and no legitimate center? Then again, your 2 best players, AJ and CB, really play the same position (small forward).

Truly pathetic.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | November 15, 2008 9:10 AM

I agree Wizfanatic, Rubio is the best young player in the world. Period. Of course, we'd need assurance that he wouldn't return to Spain after a season. A pure PF wouldn't hurt either, although it appears to be a weak draft at that position. Blake Griffin's knees worry me, while Earl Clark and Jordan Hill and Patrick Patterson are too thin, especially with the talented but rail thin Mcgee in the post. Perhaps we could trade that Navarro pick to move up in the late first to add Tyler Hansborough. I dig the knock on his athleticism, but he can rebound, score and his relentlessness might rub off on some of our young bigs.

Posted by: SammyT1 | November 15, 2008 9:15 AM

For the record, Jamison was -19 last night. Only Stevenson was worse at -20.

The team sputtered from the start and scored only 77 points.

EJ coaches from his prejudices not reality.

There is a reason that almost all teams put their best five-man unit on the floor at the start of a game. And at the end of the game, good coaches know what's worked in the game and they finish the game with that unit.

Why anyone thinks EJ is a good coach is beyond me. Yes, he's been to the playoffs for four straight years. But he's had 3 all-stars. Yes, he's had injuries to the big 3 but he overworks them, especially when they are injured or returning from an injury.

I wish Abe would say why he likes him and put him in a role that suits his skills.

Posted by: Izman | November 15, 2008 9:27 AM

"I think Ernie needs to make a move, not a blowup move, but the vets: Etan, Songaila, Stevenson and Daniels really bring nothing."

They can't win with the roster they have. Etan is all but un-tradable which means you gotta start looking at the others you mentioned.

Everytime the Wiz play a team with a bonafide star they have nothing to counter back with.

You have two options: a) let the kids develope and suffer this season, or b) make a desperate trade for this season.

Honestly, I prefer to let the kids develope and look to next year to make any moves. The problem you then have is AJ is not getting any younger.

If you want to make something happen this year then your best bets for trade is AJ and Stevenson, I don't think anyone you mentioned has any value. Maybe Daniels if he was healthy.

What I don't like is teams like Miami have won a championship, scrubbed thier team, and now look like playoff teams again while the Wiz look worse then when they made the playoffs a few years ago.

Other teams in the east have improved as well.

They should NEVER have given Areanas that contract. It's really strapped the team. You're such a great guy for taking less Gil. :(

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 15, 2008 9:29 AM

Oh, and you can't blame Eddie Jordan for what Grunfeld has given him to work with.

Jordan would be a head coach the next day after he were fired here on almost any team.

You can't blame him, EG has to step up and take the blame this time.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 15, 2008 9:32 AM

1. Fire EJ.
(I know he is a nice guy, but he just isn't a very good coach or leader, and to be successful you have to be at least one of those traits)
2A. Trade AJ.
(He's masked his overall deterioration with scoring but he is just not a factor on the block and hasn't been for years.)

2B. Trade a couple players...anyone besides McGee or Butler..and get a decent big man.
(Off post play is a must in the East, and the wiz just don't have any.)

3. Hope Gilbert comes back and start McGee.

Go Wizards!

Posted by: PAC-MAN | November 15, 2008 9:55 AM

Bulletsfan78, you might be just a little to tough. You are talking about a playoff team least you forget. Yes, to many of fans like you don't realize that playoff teams don't suck. And Ernie Grunfield will get the job done and Eddie Jordan won't be around when it happens.
Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 15, 2008 2:09 AM

When attendance dives because they're not winning, that's when you'll see Abe Pollin pressure EG and EG pressure or dump EJ. AP is a businessman first and when his business is failing, he'll make some moves.
Posted by: jweber1 | November 15, 2008 7:14 AM
Yes Abe is a businessman and he thinks of the bottom line. Which means owning a team to him is about making money first and winning is second. Owners who want to win do whatever it takes and that includes going over the luxury cap to get the right players to win a championship. LarryInClintonMd keep drinking the Kool Aid they are serving at the MCI Center because this organization wants you to believe they do not suck. Making the playoffs and getting knocked out in the first round keeps the fans coming back. The players on the team that “accomplish that amazing feat” are no longer the same players. AJ never played D and now that he is older Abe should get him a wheelchair and he can just stay on the offensive end and wait till the team comes back down court. Who knows what Gil will be when or if he ever comes back? Teams like SA and Boston have the right players where they can go out and get role players and still win in the playoffs, both of those teams are over the luxury cap. Like I said before it starts at the top and since the old man is both cheap and does not care why should the GM, Coach, Players and Fans?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 15, 2008 10:06 AM

I agree EG deserves blame, too. Imagine having to match up Dwayne Wade with... Juan Dixon last night, or slow-footed Etan against Haslem, or perimeter-oriented AJ against the young interior lion Beasley (man, that dude already plays like a 2-time all-star). EG has made a mess of this team, making poor and lucrative long-term deals on players with questionable futures out of a Pollinsian, Mom-and-Pop emphasis on continuity. That has left him with only a few $'s to fill the roster with D-League and 10th/11th man types, who are getting playing time because the Wiz medical team hasn't done its job, particularly with Arenas. But Caron, Jamison, Deshawn and Blatche have all taken a noticeable step backwards this season, while the whole team looks spent... on the floor, on the bench, in huddles and even in interviews. Deshawn used to scowl, now he looks resigned, Butler used to smile, now he just goes to work, Blatche has lost the fauxhawk and his mojo, Songalia looks likes someone's dad reluctantly pressed into a pick-up game to even out the numbers. This team is falling apart, and it is the coach's job to hold it together. As I said, maybe EJ isn't to blame, maybe he's just reached the end of his coaching cycle when players stop listening to the same directives over and over again

Posted by: SammyT1 | November 15, 2008 10:14 AM

I LMAO early in the season when people were talking big about the Christmas game with the Cavs.

Now, I'm sure Stern is considering other options to show on TV.

AD is washed up. He can't stay healthy, and when he is, he's a 3rd guard at best.

I said early on that I was going to give EJ 1/4 season before I call for him to get fired. Not looking good for him.

Wonder why EG only picked up his option, and only signed his assistants for another year.

Somebody needs to give EG the axe and maybe promote Tapscott.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 10:22 AM

I am so sick of all the fire EJ experts,then what? bring in Coach "Crack the Whip" oh yeah that will work, EJ didn't sign AJ&GA to ridiculous contracts EJ didn't give a empty headed knuckleheaded(Blatche) 15 million!! EJ didn't give an extension to a seven foot three point shooter soft in the paint bench warmer! If EJ had a real GM he wouldn't be in this mess and don't tell me about Javale McGee any Gm doing his do dilligence would have selected McGee,put the blame where it should be on Ernie Grunfeld,EJ will be hired as soon as he leaves,he's highly regarded in this league as a head coach,but of course all you "NBA Insiders" know better, PLEASE!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 15, 2008 10:23 AM

Somebody needs to ingraine in OPech's brain that he's useless for the team outside the 3 point line where he essentially camps out.

Get in the middle, mix it up, and get a rebound and put back.

Anybody in street clothes in the arena can just stand outside the 3 point line and jack up shots, even 5'6" guys.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 10:26 AM

"I am so sick of all the fire EJ experts,then what? bring in Coach "Crack the Whip" oh yeah that will work, EJ didn't sign AJ&GA to ridiculous contracts EJ didn't give a empty headed knuckleheaded(Blatche) 15 million!! EJ didn't give an extension to a seven foot three point shooter soft in the paint bench warmer! If EJ had a real GM he wouldn't be in this mess and don't tell me about Javale McGee any Gm doing his do dilligence would have selected McGee,put the blame where it should be on Ernie Grunfeld,EJ will be hired as soon as he leaves,he's highly regarded in this league as a head coach,but of course all you "NBA Insiders" know better, PLEASE!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 15, 2008 10:23 AM "

Ok, so you say not to blame EJ, but to blame EG.

I don't disagree with the latter.

But, it was EG who brought in a defensive coach (hint: undermined) and the team got better defensively last season, of course, a lot due to BTH's emergence despite EJ's lack of confidence in him.

EJ needs to quit talking about running the Princeton Offense and do something that works with the players he has. Too bad there's no Princeton Defense, but that probably wouldn't work either.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 10:32 AM

Forbid:
Whoa, You got me, My mistake. Don't know why I thought Ayers was a Duke Alumni. But since he aint a Dukie, I guess that just leaves that Carolina Blue Fellow, Mike O'Koren.

Forbid, you copied half my blog just to point out my mistake. I ain't mad. At least I now know that Randy is not a Dukie. I prefer them dar Tarheels anyway. Thanks for being alive out there.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 15, 2008 1:08 AM

my bad, i wuz just upset bout the game last night lol

Posted by: forbid | November 15, 2008 10:46 AM

I am so sick of all the fire EJ experts,then what? bring in Coach "Crack the Whip" oh yeah that will work, EJ didn't sign AJ&GA to ridiculous contracts EJ didn't give a empty headed knuckleheaded(Blatche) 15 million!! EJ didn't give an extension to a seven foot three point shooter soft in the paint bench warmer! If EJ had a real GM he wouldn't be in this mess and don't tell me about Javale McGee any Gm doing his do dilligence would have selected McGee,put the blame where it should be on Ernie Grunfeld,EJ will be hired as soon as he leaves,he's highly regarded in this league as a head coach,but of course all you "NBA Insiders" know better, PLEASE!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 15, 2008 10:23 AM

EJ def deserve the blame. in the very beginning of the season, i dont feel that way but now it is b/c to go down to Miami and lay an egg, and u hv 2 all stars, at least not being competitive at all (trail by almost 30 pts at one point), thats coaching fault for not prepare the plyers better for game time

Posted by: forbid | November 15, 2008 10:56 AM

EJ, the 2nd longest tenured coach in the NBA with 3 consecutive playoff appearances gets embarrassed by a first year coach who was coaching a team in the lottery last season.

Digest that.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 11:27 AM

agree Wizfanatic, Rubio is the best young player in the world. Period. Of course, we'd need assurance that he wouldn't return to Spain after a season.

Posted by: SammyT1 | November 15, 2008 9:15 AM

If the Wizards were to be so lucky to secure the #1 pick and drafted Ricky Rubio - and IF he signs a Rookie Contract - The Wizards would wrap him up for 5 years.

First 3 years are guaranteed, with 2 one year Team options. NBA contracts are honored by all the Leagues overseas.

Posted by: Rook6980 | November 15, 2008 11:58 AM

Yes folks EJ rotational calls are some of the most confusing you will ever see. Yes I have called for his head, pertaining to his handling of Haywood and AB, since last year.

However, I do not think it would be smart to let him go yet. I say he should get the whole season along with half of the season having Gilbert to work with and then Haywood.

What happened to Miami last year when they did not have Wade? What did Cleveland look like when LaBron was out all of the games last season? Loss after Loss after Loss......

Butler and AJ are not game changers like Wade, LeBron and Gilbert. We have an average team right now when we are playing teams who have there full compliment of players at hand.

Now, does Eddie need to learn how to set combo's together better with the folks he has? Darn right. Eddie made the fatal mistake again of trying to matchup with the other team instead of making them matchup with us. (i.e. Songalia starting at the 5 in the second half).

As I have stressed numerous times we can not keep starting in holes with the vet's. Eddie has to put his best 5 in at the start of games period.

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 15, 2008 12:28 PM

I thought Antawn (Jamison) brought it up another notch in that regard but the others didn't."

By Ivan Carter | November 14, 2008; 10:59 PM ET

Please Eddie, could you please tell me what game I was watching because it must not have been the same one you were watching? Are you kidding me.....???

If you are going to make that statement it should be pertaining to McGee if anything, not AJ?

Here in lies the problem. This is why Eddie gives AJ all of those minutes every game. Eddie gives AJ way to much props then he deserves. AJ's shot selection is terrible at times (i.e. jacking up "aimed" set shot three's) when nobody is under the basket.

Eddie I still want you here as coach, but you need to take the "rose colored" glasses off and put your best five out there at the start of these games before it costs you your job.

Starters
McGee - 5
AJ - 4
CB - 3
NY - 2
Juan - 1

2nd Unit
AB - 5
Song - 4
DMac - 3
Stevenson - 2
AD - 1

Starters get 30 to 35 minutes....

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 15, 2008 12:41 PM

I propose the team changes their name to the Gizzards!!
They officially SUCK!!
A few points to consider...
Who would sign a player with a banged up knee for 18 mill a year.
Who would sign a player who is a soft pf at 32 for 12 mill a year.
Our core is horrible and will be for a very long time.
Wake me up in 5 years when this team will be owned and operated by a different gang.

Posted by: elliotgould | November 15, 2008 1:38 PM

"I propose the team changes their name to the Gizzards!!
They officially SUCK!!
A few points to consider...
Who would sign a player with a banged up knee for 18 mill a year.
Who would sign a player who is a soft pf at 32 for 12 mill a year.
Our core is horrible and will be for a very long time.
Wake me up in 5 years when this team will be owned and operated by a different gang.

Posted by: elliotgould | November 15, 2008 1:38 PM "

Tell us how you really feel!

LMAO!

You be correct my brotha...

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 2:41 PM

The reason Eddie gives major props to Antawn is clear:
1) Pollin loves AJ and has even said that he is the only human being that he would compare to Wes Unseld. Eddie dare not toy with that dynamic. 'Nuff said.
2) AJ is his olocker room leader and if he alienates AJ at least half the guys would go with AJ.

Eddie allows AJ to continue jacking up ill-advised shots in crucial situations and doesn't even give him a dirty look, much less a few words of counsel, but if Blatche does it, he's yanked out of the game, pronto. I've got to believe that most of the locker room sees what everybody else does. Sorry, Eddie, but you won't be coaching here much longer.

Posted by: Firuz1 | November 15, 2008 3:29 PM

agree above, I saw the dirty look he gave Blatche last night (during garbage time) and he was yanked immediately when everyone else was horrible as well. That wanst cool.

Posted by: washwiz | November 15, 2008 4:27 PM

I can't believe Jordan's comment about Jamison took it up a notch! What is he talking about?? Was that sarcasm??!

I actually thought Pecherov played pretty good when out there, and I was glad to see him in the game.

I am to the point where I think we should be going all out youth movement...

McGee should be on the floor as much as possible, with Etan as his backup. Also wouldn't mind seeing some of the two of them in there together.

I really want to see more of Blatche. If that means using Jamison more at the 3 that's fine. I want to see what McGee and Blatche can do together, and give them a chance to build some chemistry inside. Someone please tell Andray though that although he is back playing forward that don't mean to play like a guard with behind the back passes and dribbling, play the 4 just like you played center last season... tough, shot blocking, rebounding, energy, defending the rim and lane, scoring inside, passing out of the double to the open man and cutter... that's what we need from you!!

Any minutes you would give to Songaila, give them to Pecherov instead.

Use Jamison and Caron at SF rotation...

Nick Young take over at SG, with DeShawn off the bench. Rotate Dixon and Dee at PG with Antonio on bench until Gil comes back.


When Gil and Haywood return, the lineup I'd like to see us using...

McGee, Blatche, Butler, Young, Arenas

Jamison 6th man (PF/SF)


Bench: Haywood, Pecherov, McGuire, Stevenson, Dixon

Reserves: Etan, Songaila, Daniels, Dee Brown

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 15, 2008 4:49 PM

I can't even think of anyone McGee reminds me of! His combo of size, speed, shot blocking, and touch on his shot, fluidity and power...

Kareem comes to mind. Dwight Howard. Camby. David Robinson. Bill Russell. Wilt.

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 15, 2008 5:02 PM

The way I see it, the young guys doesn't respect Eddie that much anymore that's why they don't play hard as much. They know that they can play better than the veterans. It's time to trade a superstar. It's not working anymore.

Posted by: bdunkadunk | November 15, 2008 5:06 PM

Eddie is an idiot.

There's probably more fight in "5-6 guys out there" than those p@ssies on the court last night representing the Wiz.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 5:27 PM

"I can't even think of anyone McGee reminds me of! His combo of size, speed, shot blocking, and touch on his shot, fluidity and power...

Kareem comes to mind. Dwight Howard. Camby. David Robinson. Bill Russell. Wilt.

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 15, 2008 5:02 PM "

He's more of a combo between Camby/Tyson Chandler, but don't get ahead of yourself just yet. He's played in about 7 nba games.

BTW, has anyone seen BTH on the bench?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 5:30 PM

Play the guys that put out the effort. If it's the vets --- good. If the young guys ---play them.
Just want to see some energy even if they make mistakes they are learning. I don't like seeing no movement on offense. Come down weave shoot a 20 footer jog back on D then repeat.
Hello----that's not working.
Didn't work the last 3 - 4 years won't work ever with this bunch.
Time to try something different.
We deserve a better team.

Posted by: VBFan | November 15, 2008 7:25 PM

Man, this EG draft pick, unfortunately traded to Dallas, is going to be great player.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281115001

Nice game by Jarvis too.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 15, 2008 9:39 PM

THE WIZ HAVE VERY LITTLE TALENT AND THEY LOSE BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT PLAY NOT BECAUSE EJ CAN NOT COACH. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY STARS THIS YEAR. BLATCH FOOLED ME INTO THINKING HE WAS GOING TO BLOSSOM; STEVENSON SEEMED TO BE DEVELOPING BUT HAS TAKEN A STEP BACKWARD.RELEASING R. MASON WAS STUPID. WE NEED MORE THAN GIL. CAN WE RISK S MARBURY? DEE BROWN WOULD HAVE TO GO. I HAVE NEVER SEEN PRO LEVEL OFFENCE FROM ETAN--NOW HE IS WORSE. I WILL SUPPORT MCGEE. WHERE IS MOTOMBO???

Posted by: kcandlc | November 15, 2008 11:45 PM

""You're going to have bad nights but we got it to within six points [early in the third quarter] and then all of a sudden they went on a what, 20-2 run?" Jamison said. "That [stuff] is unacceptable. I don't understand how that can happen. This is a veteran team. We've been there and done that before. I just expect all 12 guys to be prepared to play a more physical, more mental and better basketball game." "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/15/AR2008111502248.html

Since AJ is already mounted on his high horse, he needs to up and gallop out of town.

Tired of his "I'm doing my job but you are not" method of "leadership."

Mr. All star power forward can't even get on the free throw line. That's because he's too busy shooting long J's and dipsy do shots instead of working inside like he's supposed to, on both ends.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 16, 2008 12:42 PM

I agree, I am having a hard time tracking Jamison's words with his on court contribution being what it is. He has always struck me as being reasonably intelligent but seems to have very little self-awareness of late. AJ has never been a classic power forward but now seems allergic to the paint and just forget about drawing any contact. Can't imagine some players not taking offense at the hypocrisy of it all.

I wrote before the season started on being more fearful for the starters than the subs. It was clear they were not bringing anything in pre-season and that has carried right over. Losing Haywood was devastating and then we lose AD, who had been playing injured. They simply have no continuity right now and will likely only manage a handful of wins before Gil returns.

If Gil returns late Dec or early Jan this team will be too many games back to make a playoff run. I realize it is still early in the season but there are too many obstacles and the East is much improved. I realize the Wizards organization will continue to go through the motions but sadly it will be just that.

EJ is slave to the system/routine but these are changes I would make prior to Gil's return...

1. Start McGee over Etan - I was actually saying this before the season started but now there is a wealth of evidence to support this. Start the one person on the team who is a legitimate NBA center.

2. Bench Stevenson in favor of Nick Young - While I like having his scoring off the bench it is not a luxury we can afford right now...we need to get out of the gates faster.

3. Make AJ our 6th man and start DMac. This balances the bench scoring and provides a very active rebounder in the starting 5. Between McGee and DMac I believe we can clean some glass. DMac would not be allowed to shoot anything other than a put back lay-up.

4. Start Daniels if/when he returns healthy. He knows how to run the offense and Juan has played well of the bench.

5. Trade Blatche for pick or backup PG. I am sure he will become an All-Star in Detroit but this is another pot of gold which we can't seem to locate. Give Blatche minutes to OPEC. Tell OPEC he gets 1 three-point attempt for every five rebounds.

6. Change the offense - I do not see personnel capable of running a Princeton offense. We are consistently among the worst in the league in assist totals. Nobody seems to be thriving in it and we do often appear too late to get in to a set. Gibbs failed because he could not adapt and I fear the same for EJ.


Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | November 16, 2008 2:20 PM

Love all the fire EJ calls now.

I've been saying he is a bad coach for years! FYI, I used to post under Rob P until the new sign in process. So, thanks for arriving to the party late.

BTW, EG is a top-flight GM and has the track record here and elsewhere to prove it unlike EJ's career .474 winning percentage. We are missing our best player when healthy and our starting center, which forces the entire roster to play roles for which they were not acquired.

While this may be a good reason to excuse EJ's poor coaching as well, I don't agree. It's just exposed how clueless he really is as a coach. You should be able to motivate your players to at least play hard and hustle. The Miami game was embarrassing!

Also, he has never defined roles very well. In our "Princeton offense", GA and AJ can jack up all the ill-advised shots they want and play zero defense yet NY and Blatche get yanked for the same offenses! No wonder players are starting to tune him out. I would too!

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 16, 2008 5:19 PM

I was away for a couple of days but I see that most of us agree that EJ must go. But let me just say, the Wizs do have quality NBA players, but when EJ mismanages their roles and constantly screws up on the floor gametime decisions it will make our grandmommas cry.

Question: Does EJ really prepare his team to win during practice? The answer has to be NO! And yes it is NO!, because why else does he stand on the sideline orchestrating every play up and down the floor like he knows exactly what it takes to win. If you prepare your team properly, when the whistle blows and that ball starts to bouncing around you must allow them to control it, not the coach on the sideline. And yes, I see a lot of coaches on the side, but most of the championship coaches sit a lot and get input from their assistants considerably more than EJ.

I am going to name three coaches that were superior in their winning philosophies and they did their gametime couching from the bench. John Wooden, Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach.

EJ will never come close to their winning philosophies because he does not have confidence in his coaching to allow his players to win games and thats why he stands on the sideline and trys to orchestrate the games and is petty with his players. The three above new better and champions know better. And guess what, Give EJ an orchestra stick, cause when you wave that back and forth in front of an orchestra they play just like you want them to.

But, Hello EJ, and for those that still don't believe he shoud be fired, this ain't no orchestra, This Is NBA Basketball.

BulletsFan78, this diatribe was for you cause I know you hurting, but chin up, this is a business and trust me when I say, EG knows this, and the Old Man has an ear for EG, and EJ will be outa hear before you know it.

They got the players, They don't have no coach. LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 17, 2008 1:10 AM

Larry, we must have been watching diffferent games on Friday.

In the game I saw, Miami could easily have won by 40 points had they kept their foot on the gas pedal.

When a team is so soundly dismantled by a team which was a bottom-feeder last year, the problem is not the coach. It's the talent, or lack thereof.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | November 17, 2008 9:25 AM

Eddie Jordan-in love with Stevenson/Daniels
Jamison-no defense
Butler-sometimes too fancy and too cute
Stevenson-please get rid of him
Daniels-slows the team down/no offense
Blatche-body of 7 footer/mind of 6 footer
Haywood-I'm glad his out
Thomas/Dixon-plays with their heart;that's good
Others-they're young but will be good one day

Posted by: iamdawalrus | November 19, 2008 1:11 PM

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