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Butler Update

Caron Butler, who has missed two straight games with a sprained left ankle, will again be a game-time decision tonight at New Orleans. Butler suffered the injury during the first quarter of Thursday's loss at Cleveland but kept playing and tweaked it late in that game.

Butled said the ankle swelled up on him during the flight home. He hasn't played or practiced since. He tried to test it out before last night's win at Houston but said it's still a problem.

"We'll just have to see how it feels," Butler said.

Also, it will be intersting to see how Antawn Jamison feels after he took a couple of knees to his thighs last night. Jamison was limping somewhat down the stretch.

"I got a knee to a sore spot but I'm used to it," Jamison said.

-The Wizards swept the season-series with New Orleans 2-0 last season. Tonight's matchup will be the first meeting between the teams since the Dec. 10 trade that sent Antonio Daniels to New Orleans in a package that brought Mike James and Javaris Crittenton (from Memphis) to Washington.

By Ivan Carter  |  December 30, 2008; 8:49 AM ET
 
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hey ivan have you heard anything about who could be the next head coach for the wiz thanks

Posted by: brandonjamal13 | December 30, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I think CB should sit it out for a couple of games to make sure the ankle is right. No injury to anyone is ever a good thing, but this might be a chance for Tapscott to see he does not have to have AJ and/or CB on the floor "at all times".

When Tapscott keeps AJ and/or CB on the floor at all times it takes away minutes from a 4 or 5 (McGee and Etan) because of AJ and from the 2 or 3 (McGuire and Juan) because of CB.

Also, you could always see Tapscott was telling the players to "make sure" CB and AJ always got touches every possession. What that did was make everyone else whose name was not AJ or CB non aggressive.

Now with CB out, folks like AB and James have now become more aggressive and they pass the ball around more. Now I am not trying to say we are better without CB by no means, but the ball moves better now because everybody is not trying to force everything to him.

I would like for him to sit a couple more out so the folks who never get a chance to get a run can now do so and gain some confidence for when CB and Gil come back.

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 30, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Come on Wizards! Let's get a third straight win tonight!

Posted by: rachel216 | December 30, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else think Juan should play more? He plays with an aggressiveness that few players on this time seem to possess. He's a wily veteran guy that goes hard. The young guys need that type of example.

That layup he made over (through? next to?) Yao got me laughing. Great stuff.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

A. The more the youngsters play, the better for the team - both in the short-term (see the past 3 games) and in the long-term.

B. The vets (Stevenson, Thomas, Dixon, Songolia, James) are below average NBA players who will not improve with more playing time.

A + B = play JM, AB, NY, DM, and JC more minutes and let them gain some confidence without constantly pulling them out.

The NBA: where logic is missing.

Posted by: Izman | December 30, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"It will be interesting to see when Gil comes back, if Caron stays at the 2. Ball movement will be interesting because Caron fell into Gil's mode of trying to do to much. They need to study Celtics tapes to see how the big 3 sacrifice their games. All three guys have to play unselfish for us to win

Posted by: ptp23 | December 29, 2008 11:41 PM "

Sorry, but Caron is not ball hogging b/c he's a ball hogger. He's never been known to do that.

He's taking a huge proportion of the shots now b/c ETap wants/needs him to since MeTawn can't hit the side of a barn now and AB and NY are inconsistent.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 30, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I suggested last year that CB was the weak link on this team defensively because he doesn't play much defense and tries to gamble and get steals. It sure looks like we're playing better now that he's sitting. I am looking forward to seeing him in this lineup at the 2.

AB happens to play Yao ok because he's slow. Strong quick guys will still give up problems but AB appearsto be everything his supporters have been saying he is...a good player with the potential to be great. He's not Garnett because his d and rebounding aren't up to par yet but AB is a better passer and ballhandler at the same age.

Anyway, Tap tried to give it away by using small ball again but DS hit a big shot down the stretch to pull it out. I can't argue with using Stevenson instead of NY in the closing minutes. Even if he had not hit that shot, it's the right move for now.

I hope we finally get this rotation right and bench Song for good. We're very close.
The team that is playing right now could win 40+ games if this season were starting right now. I've thought all along that we had talent. We just need the right mix and AJ and CB cannot be our starting forwards. One has to move and CB is the right choice.

Posted by: original_mark | December 30, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone see the post game report when Chris Miller was going over the highlights and he made a sarcastic (but very true) statement on Stevenson's shot from the corner that hit?

Miller said something to the effect can you believe Stevenson finally hit one, because I was not expecting it to hit seeing it was Stevenson shooting it.

In jumps one of the homers of all homers. Phil Chenier then makes a half serious remark to Johnson about why he made that sarcastic remark about Stevenson and his shot. Chenier then went on to talk about the rest of the game.

When the camera came back to Dave Johnson in the studio Dave was not smiling and then went right into the next story. I have noticed since the season has begun Miller is the only one covering the team who asks questions about the team that might make Wiz employees cringe a little.

Glenn Consor, Phil, and Buck are definitely on the Wiz payroll and they own stock in the "homer kool aid" factory. Ronnie Thompson is real good, but sometimes I get the feeling he wants to say more but he is real good at staying in the middle (not being a homer and not being to critical).

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 30, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Edit:

When the camera came back to Chris Miller in the studio Dave was not smiling and then went right into the next story.

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Edit:

When the camera came back to Chris Miller in the studio Chris was not smiling and then went right into the next story.

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 30, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but Caron is not ball hogging b/c he's a ball hogger. He's never been known to do that.

He's taking a huge proportion of the shots now b/c ETap wants/needs him to since MeTawn can't hit the side of a barn now and AB and NY are inconsistent.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 30, 2008 9:32 AM

Yes, it seems that more so than in previous years, Caron ends up with the ball 30 feet from the basked standing still with the shot clock winding down. I love Caron but his "hit rate" in doing something good with the ball (let alone NOT turning it over) is nothing special. I'd take my chances with James instead since he seems to be a better penetrator and is getting the 3's to fall with regularity.

As far as DeShawn, I was screaming at the TV last night to get him out of the game in the 4th quarter since having he and DM on the floor at the same time really limits your offensive options. Yeah, he hit that prayer fallaway but then he almost blew it by only hitting 1 of 2 FT's. I'll take my chances with JD any day of the week.

I will say that for once, DS didn't get abused defensively at the end -- McGrady kept settling for jump shots rather than taking DS to the hole!!!

NY continues to be crazily inconsistent. He hit some amazing shots, then takes a few bad ones. Mix in a bone headed play like the one at the end of quarter where he fouled McGrady at midcourt w .3 seconds left -- Duh? Maybe will see some improved play now that it seems he is getting consistent minutes.

Looks like JM is losing his minutes completely to ET??? I know he's on a short leash but JM looks very nervous every time he touches the ball offensively. Unfortunately they are not throwing him any more lobs for easy baskets!

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Could not aggree more with your post edP2. As much good Tapscott has done with AB's game, he has completely destroyed McGee's game.

McGee now looks scared to death out there just like AB use to look when Eddie J' was coaching. There are no more lobs because I believe Taps has instructed everybody not to throw them into McGee anymore.

Everyone who has played at any organized level of basketball could always see AB had the skills to produce if he ever got constistent minutes. Why Eddie J' never saw that I will never know and understand.

Now the same holds true for Tapscott when it comes to his dealings with McGee. He is doing the same thing Eddie J' did to AB, on McGee.

Again, the boy had the eye of the tiger when Eddie J' was still coach. Now Tapscott has successfully made the young boy have "deer in the headlights" performances now.

Ed Tapscott - Your coaching rotations (no more "slow small ball" with Song. at the 5) are getting better, now take some time out to build McGee back up after you have successfully torn the young man's confidence and game down.....

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 30, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

As far as DeShawn, I was screaming at the TV last night to get him out of the game in the 4th quarter since having he and DM on the floor at the same time really limits your offensive options. Yeah, he hit that prayer fallaway but then he almost blew it by only hitting 1 of 2 FT's. I'll take my chances with JD any day of the week.

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 9:47 AM

ur an idiot. he plays 30 mpg because he is the only one who can play defense. same with DMac. jd is the weakest defender on the team.

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

2-0 without Caron Butler. Somebody tell me how this makes sense...

Posted by: sargeantmofo | December 30, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

DC Man,

Tawn can't hit the side of a barn? Really?

IMO he's having a better year than last year. He is what he is, and there are plenty of teams that would take him.

mark

strong quick guys give every defender problems. But how many strong quick centers play in this league? (They're all all-stars, I'll say that much)

Now there are plenty of strong and quick 4's, but when BTH comes back, and AB gets more minutes at the 4, he'll of course have BTH to cover his back. And Dray creates mismatches at the 3. He can't stay in front of most 3's, but that can be overcome with solid team D, and on the other end, he can post them up all day.

I agree on stevenson's minutes, especially at the end, he gives us a better defensive look than NY, and it seems like he's letting his shot find him instead of the other way around. Progress. Again, last year, he overachieved (and that's an understatement) being asked to do things he had never done before, like create his own shots off the dribble. He'll put it together. He's a vet.

And DSong, is playing very well, my only beef is that he should be getting no minutes at the 5, but its not like we have a lot of options.

Posted by: jones-y | December 30, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I'll take my chances with JD any day of the week.

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 9:47 AM

ur an idiot. he plays 30 mpg because he is the only one who can play defense. same with DMac. jd is the weakest defender on the team.

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 9:58 AM

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prescrunk, you grumpy old man.

JD is the worst defender on the team? Because he plays passing lanes? He also presses the ball and is quick enough to stay in front of guys. Same can't be said for Songaila, NY, and even Butler. Juan has a high basketball IQ and can hit shots. Yeah, he has some shortcomings, but he's a solid vet that is not too old to contribute. Dude just makes things happen when he is on the floor.

I'm siding with edP2 on this point (and this point only perhaps).

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else think Glenn Consor is the worst post-game radio host in the history of post-game radio hosts? Decent insight--obviously a basketball guy--but I cringe non-stop when he is taking calls. Just brutal.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

2-0 without Caron Butler. Somebody tell me how this makes sense...

Posted by: sargeantmofo | December 30, 2008 9:59 AM

rotfl Delusional Mark seems to know...

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

"2-0 without Caron Butler. Somebody tell me how this makes sense..."

Posted by: sargeantmofo | December 30, 2008 9:59 AM

Easy to explain. Here is what my eyes see:
1-improved ball movement
2- Taps is forced to go deeper into the bench to players who are producing (Nick, Juan, Etan)
3-DMac and James are getting used to their roles
4-outhustling opponants
5-less stupid shots by Stevenson

Taps' challenge will be to keep these things going while intergrating Caron (and ultimately Gil?) back into the rotation. Some of that is solved by Caron (and Gil) watching carefully and realizing that they need not go 1 on 1 every other time they get the ball. Trust of less talented players is something that all stars need to learn if they want to win.

I think we should not get too giddy over last night. McGrady was pretty honest in saying that the Rockets thought they would do what they did at Verizon...win it in the 4th quarter. That has been our history all year and everybody in the league now knows it. I thought the win last night was more a function of the rockets sleepwalking. I don't know why they didn't pound it in with Ming like last time. He sat for 2/3 of the 4th quarter and was out of rhythm when they needed him down the stretch. Houston fans should be outraged at that loss.

Tonight is simple: Will the Hornet's players heed their coach's warnings not to take us lightly because we have made these adjustments? or will they just look at our record and think they can show up?

Posted by: stanlong23 | December 30, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

JD is the worst defender on the team? Because he plays passing lanes? He also presses the ball and is quick enough to stay in front of guys.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:09 AM

do u even watch the wiz?? Dixon gets owned by every pg in the league. he couldn't stay in front of a lmao toddler

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Butler being out says more for giving other players more minutes, a chance to help the Team win than him being out.

We have to use all our pieces. Its sad that it took ET's medical condition before we realized that Haywood could produce at center. Its sad that it took Haywood getting hurt and now AB is beginning to blossom. Its sad that now, even though he was starting to get minutes anyway, that the last two games with CB being out, it has magnifed DM's play.

If we had coaching that realized that players cannot help win on the bench, we might be in the playoff hunt with this team.

And know you this is LarryInClintonMD and I ain't joking.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 30, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I agree on stevenson's minutes, especially at the end, he gives us a better defensive look than NY, and it seems like he's letting his shot find him instead of the other way around. Progress. Again, last year, he overachieved (and that's an understatement) being asked to do things he had never done before, like create his own shots off the dribble. He'll put it together. He's a vet.

And DSong, is playing very well, my only beef is that he should be getting no minutes at the 5, but its not like we have a lot of options.

Posted by: jones-y | December 30, 2008 10:07 AM


FINALLY. someone on here who is not an idiot. Congratulations, Jones-y, we would like to have you join us @
http://www.wizardsextreme.com

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Here's the score after the 1st quarter in the first three games (all good ones by the Wiz):

WAS 21 HOU 22
WAS 33 OKC 31
WAS 25 CLE 22

Compare that to the beginning of the season, when we seemed to start every game down 25-15 after the first. Putting DMac in the starting lineup has made the team more competitive in the first, which builds confidence and doesn't create a huge deficit we need to come back from. There is an old saying in sports about not letting a bad team hang around. The Wiz have been able to hang around by (finally) putting their best starting unit out there, and it's paying off. The wins without Butler are coincidental. James, Butler, McGuire, Jamison, Blatche is the best five we can play right now.

I, too, cringe when Etan comes off the bench, although he is giving us a solid contribution and his energy is much improved. In my dreams, I hope this is an audition for an upcoming trade. His trade value on the bench was zero. Maybe EG is trying to showcase him?

Posted by: bryc3 | December 30, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I think Blatche is FINALLY starting to get it. I thought last night was the best all around game he has had as a pro.

What the heck has gotten into James?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 30, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

As far as DeShawn, I was screaming at the TV last night to get him out of the game in the 4th quarter since having he and DM on the floor at the same time really limits your offensive options. Yeah, he hit that prayer fallaway but then he almost blew it by only hitting 1 of 2 FT's. I'll take my chances with JD any day of the week.

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 9:47 AM

ur an idiot. he plays 30 mpg because he is the only one who can play defense. same with DMac. jd is the weakest defender on the team.

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 9:58 AM

Yes, DS is one of the "better" defenders (DM is better I think) on the team but he is such a liability on the offensive end that I just don't think he warrants 30 minutes a game. He's in a horrible shooting slump and can't hit FG's or FT's. To his credit, he does not seem to be hoisting shots indiscriminately but he can't be counted on to hit an open shot or FT. If he were a true defensive "stopper" then I would agree with your point but he's not -- he's more like one of the smarter kids in a dumb class. Does JD have his weaknesses defensively? Sure but to say JD's consistently gets "owned" by every PG in the league is a stretch.

Lastly, prescrunk, who made you the gatekeeper for that exclusive bastion of all knowing fans called wizardsextreme? If everyone is so smart there and all "idiots" here, why don't you just stay there?

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse


Grood post bryce2. That is great point that I had forgotten. It started with Cavs game when DMac was inserted. We are competing from the start and not getting into a hole early. The opponants start coasting and expecting to win later and so we just continue to play hard and wisely and behold we are with them in the 4th quarter rather than down by 10. They think they can just turn it on and we will wilt but that is not happening anymore. Why? Defense and hustling has gotten into our blood. We are able to make big stops to withstand the onslaught. Let's see how long this pattern continues.


BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | December 30, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Prescrunk,

JD is not the worst defender on the team. He is a scorer, a ball hawk, and he gets steals and makes the other team commit turnovers.

You are placing so much importance on individual D', you can't see the forest for trees.

His style of play is aptly suited for where this Team needs to go. UpTemPo.

Between JD, MJ, NY, JC, and DS, I'll take the hustle and overall positive play of JD any day.

JD's play has not proven to be a liability.

Stop makin up stuff already in support of DeBrick. Hell JD might have won some of them games that DeBrick Bricked us out of if he had been in their scoring the Ball. Hello!!!

LarryInClintonMD.

BY THE WAY, JUAN DON'T MISS THREE FREETHROWS IN A ROW. CHECK IT

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 30, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Caron Butler, who has missed two straight games and the Wizards have won them both? It is amazing what playing some defense can do for a team. When you have a liability in Jamison on defense you can not afford another player who plays out of position and does not play good defense. Unfortunately, (sorry Larry) EJ went with the philosophy of try to out score other teams since he had three players AJ, CB, Gil who did not want to play D and were just worried about their stats. Playing good D is contagious look at how Boston and LA play. The Wizards haven’t had a player like DM since Ruffin left. I am sure DM’s play has inspired the play of AB.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 30, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

JD is the worst defender on the team? Because he plays passing lanes? He also presses the ball and is quick enough to stay in front of guys.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:09 AM

do u even watch the wiz?? Dixon gets owned by every pg in the league. he couldn't stay in front of a lmao toddler

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 10:23 AM

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Against my better judgment, I'll respond....

You ever tried to stay in front of a toddler? Not easy.

Seriously, I'm not saying Juan is the second coming of The Glove, but he ain't the worst defender on the team.

I aspire, perhaps one fine day, to shed my "idiot" label so that I could join the brahmans over that Extreme site. Otherwise, I might have to turn in my Wizards fan card. Oh well.

Peace, my friend.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I agree that DMac's energy, defensive mindset and passing are contagious and we are seeing AB's game get better.
What I long to see is for him to stop all that finger rolling and fading away and imitate DMac by taking it strong to the hole. Catch-Gather-Dunk.

AB would score 10 more points a night if he would just do that. He knows how to get open, has the quickness and the strength but doesn't finish with authority. He has the skill and mindset of a 3 but the body of a 4. DMac has the skill of a 3 but the mindset of a 4. Jamison is the classic 3 1/2. gives us his all despite his lack of foot speed. But we should not underestimate how DMac is doing what apparently Taps has been begging the forwards to do. And he is getting rewarded and they are noticing it and imitating it.

BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | December 30, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I aspire, perhaps one fine day, to shed my "idiot" label so that I could join the brahmans over that Extreme site. Otherwise, I might have to turn in my Wizards fan card. Oh well.

Peace, my friend.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:56 AM

Nice!!!

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Peace, my friend.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:56 AM

Nice!!!

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 11:08 AM


yall r h0m0s. dont bother coming to: http://www.wizardsextreme.com
i'll ban ur corny a$$e$

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks the Wiz are better without Caron in the lineup is crazy; he's our best player...agree he should be playing the 2 with D-Mac as our defensive stopper at the 3. It seems that D-Mac's defense and rebounding seems to have rubbed off on Blatche the last couple of games. I'd like to see how the team does with Caron back at the 2 and NY coming off the bench to provide scoring.

This teams best lineup in James, Butler, D-Mac, AJ, and Blatche. If this team had a healthy Agent Zero and BTH, you'd be looking at a 45-win team. NY would be our designated scorer off the bench and D-Song would only be getting minutes at the 4.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Blake Griffin comes out early and we have a shot at him in the lottery. He's the exact type of inside scorer and rebounder we've needed at the 4 for the last few years. This is a 15-20 win season and I don't see Agent Zero playing much, if at all, until his knee is close to 100%.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 30, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I don't see Agent Zero playing much, if at all, until his knee is close to 100%.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 30, 2008 11:19 AM


he will play. les boules are paying him
$111 million and dammit he is gonna play on one leg if he has to. plus EG is about to get canned

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

It'd be interesting to see if Tap is going to have JaTravel guard Tyson Chandler. Both are similar types of players.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 30, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Have to give props where props are due. Two people who I do not want on the floor Stevenson and Etan should be given some credit for their last two performances.

I was kicking the tv too when ETap decided to keep Stevenson in the closing minutes. However I understand why. He is the better defender then Juan and NY. NY game is so up and down so I see why Tapscott might jerk him in and out some time.

Stevenson's whole problem for not being able to hit a "j" is his form. He shoots a knuckleball with a serious side spin or no spin at all, plus he "aims" them into the basket instead of "letting it go" to the basket off of his fingertips.

Instead of shooting the ball with a underspin and keeping his elbow close to his side, his elbow is a lot of times out like he is Etan getting a rebound. His jumper will always "clank" because he puts way to much arch on a side spinning ball.

The reason he hit that jumper last night is because he did not have time to "wind up" his shot put style release, he had to shoot it regularly. Look at the tape and notice he shot it with no windup and elbow in with no side spin because he was rushing it and was leaning.

Now I know it is too late for him to change his shot this far in his career, but he might want to sit down with Hoopla and least take off that side spin he puts on the ball.

Etan lots of energy and is banging. Good work because I normally don't like Etan in there.

*** McGee hang in there bro. Your time will come......

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"yall r h0m0s. dont bother coming to: http://www.wizardsextreme.com
i'll ban ur corny a$$e$"
__________
wat are you talking about scrunk?? You don't have any authority over there. You are just a member.

Posted by: LooseCannon1 | December 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Yes, DS is one of the "better" defenders (DM is better I think)

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 10:49 AM

so you're smarter than Kalorama (Ivan) and Eddie Jordan and Ed Rasclot?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/09/26/DI2008092602829.html

pwn3d

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Peace, my friend.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 30, 2008 10:56 AM

Nice!!!

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 11:08 AM


yall r h0m0s. dont bother coming to: http://www.wizardsextreme.com
i'll ban ur corny a$$e$

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 11:17 AM

Oh please no Mr KnowItAll. Please don't ban me from that website that you and one other person use -- I'll be a good boy and agree to everything you say. I promise.

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

WizardsExtreme doesn't sanction these comments. Anybody interested or who would like to discuss anything on the site are more than welcome.

Posted by: LooseCannon1 | December 30, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

for the record, prescrunk is simply a member on our forums and has no authority. he cannot do anything to anyone and is doing a bad job in representing us.

I invite you folks to join us over there and I can assure you more than 1person uses the site. http://www.wizardsextreme.com

back on topic..I hope Caron sits out tonight and gets 100%. We dont need a gimpy Caron on the floor as he can become a liability if NO smells blood but who knows. Anything is possible at this point


Posted by: WizardsExtreme | December 30, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

yeah everyone come over to http://www.wizardsextreme.com

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

2-0 without Caron Butler. Somebody tell me how this makes sense...

Posted by: sargeantmofo | December 30, 2008 9:59 AM

OK. Here's my take...
Caron is a one dimensional offensive player who stutter steps, dribbles in place and pulls up for jumpers 90% of he time. The offense is stagnant when he's doing that and it makes it easier to defend because the other 4 guys are standing around watching. He also is a below average defender who is one of the primary culprits when it comes to rotating and closing out on shooters. He's not strong enough to guard most sf's and is not physical enough offensively to get them into any foul trouble. SF's only have to play him for the jumper and can save energy for hustle plays.

Dominic McGuire is almost the exact opposite of CB. He rebounds, gets a hand up in ppls faces and blocks shots. Even when a guy makes a shot on him, it's contested. Nick Young at least tries to drive and makes the other sg expend energy. It'll be interesting to see when Cb gets back and I think it makes us even tougher if he's playing at the 2 exclusively.
With Cb at the 3, we're weaker on defense. It's that simple. We will have a hard time playing defense with Aj and Cb starting at forward. If one has to change positions, it has to be CB. AJ has been fouling guys hard and has always been a beast on the boards. He's earned the right to stay where he is.

It helps that we played the worst team in the league, though. Gotta say that the Houston game was impressive but almost predictable.

Posted by: original_mark | December 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

"DC Man,

Tawn can't hit the side of a barn? Really?

IMO he's having a better year than last year. He is what he is, and there are plenty of teams that would take him.

Posted by: jones-y | December 30, 2008 10:07 AM "

Can you not read?

I said MeShawn, not MeTawn.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 30, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Yes, DS is one of the "better" defenders (DM is better I think)

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 10:49 AM

so you're smarter than Kalorama (Ivan) and Eddie Jordan and Ed Rasclot?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/09/26/DI2008092602829.html

pwn3d

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 11:35 AM

OMG, relax. Just my opinion. DM is not perfect but I like especially how he can block shots down low when he is helping others. Note that the interview with Ivan was from before the season started. Yes, Ivan said AT THAT TIME he thought DS was their best defender and who knows, he may still so that. If you agree with everything everyone IN THE KNOW says then why even post your thoughts here?

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"He's taking a huge proportion of the shots now b/c ETap wants/needs him to since MeTawn can't hit the side of a barn now and AB and NY are inconsistent.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 30, 2008 9:32 AM "

My bad, I meant MeShawn.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 30, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

wizfan89, I agree with you about CB being a very good all around player. I just wish he was more inspired to play defense and I wish he'd shoot more 3's. I think we're closer to 50+ wins with all of our guys back.

Imagine the defense we could play with a lineup with a frontcourt consisting of AB, BTH, DM and AJ with JM off the bench.

Ppl here were complaining about EG not acquiring enough talent and talking about Griffin and Rubio. truth is, we have the talent to win a championship. We just need the coaching.

We have length (long arms), youth, quickness, veteran leadership at every position. We don't turn the ball over much and we shoot free throws relatively well.

There's no reason to think that we can't compete with any team in the league right now. With BTH and Gil, we're loaded.

Posted by: original_mark | December 30, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

BulletsFever,

I hate to keep harping on it, but let's not forget that Stevenson's J was consistent last season, and his form hasn't changed. I think its his left knee, that's the plant leg for a right-handed shooter

Posted by: jones-y | December 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

It helps that we played the worst team in the league, though. Gotta say that the Houston game was impressive but almost predictable.

Posted by: original_mark | December 30, 2008 11:41 AM

Original mark. I think the Houston game was predictable in the fact that the Wizards started to give it away in the 4th. What I thought was unpredictable was that they were able to rally and get some key defensive stops at the end to pull it out! BTW, nice read on Caron's game in your previous post!

Posted by: edP2 | December 30, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I hate to keep harping on it, but let's not forget that Stevenson's J was consistent last season, and his form hasn't changed. I think its his left knee, that's the plant leg for a right-handed shooter

Posted by: jones-y | December 30, 2008 11:53 AM

thats exactly what it is. his left knee has been hurt for a while. he doesn't have hops anymore

Posted by: prescrunk | December 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I agree that DMac's energy, defensive mindset and passing are contagious and we are seeing AB's game get better.

What I long to see is for him to stop all that finger rolling and fading away and imitate DMac by taking it strong to the hole. Catch-Gather-Dunk.

AB would score 10 more points a night if he would just do that. He knows how to get open, has the quickness and the strength but doesn't finish with authority.

Posted by: stanlong23 | December 30, 2008 11:05 AM

BmoreRev

He has been watching Jamison too long from the bench!

There's no reason to think that we can't compete with any team in the league right now. With BTH and Gil, we're loaded.

Posted by: original_mark | December 30, 2008 11:49 AM

Mark,
I want you and Larry to be my PR men. I love that both of you believe this team can win once BTH and Gil come back but remember when they were younger they could not get out of the first round. Gil is not a point guard and can not take over a game. He can score a lot of points but does not play defense or pass the ball.

I like BTH at C, AB at PF, DM at SF, CB at SG, and if the Wizards could trade AJ and Gil for a point guard and a good sixth man then I will start to think they could win a championship.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 30, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Gil is not a point guard and can not take over a game. He can score a lot of points but does not play defense or pass the ball.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 30, 2008 12:09 PM

Huh? When was the last time a defensive passer took over an NBA game? You take over a game by putting up a lot of points. Buckets or assists or some combo thereof. That's Gil's calling card, putting up points in bunches.

Posted by: jones-y | December 30, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Anybody still want to call Blatch soft after that pick he put on Barry. Did ya noticed how long he just grouped around on the floor. It was like Mike Tyson looking for his mouthpiece after Buster Douglas has right crossed his butt.

It was Unseld like. You Go Blatch.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 30, 2008 12:27 AM

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 30, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"2-0 without Caron Butler. Somebody tell me how this makes sense..."

"Defense and ball movement on offense." Neither of those things are a knock on Butler, just the difference some subtle adjustments can make.

The defense came almost totally from getting McGuire on the court for major minutes. Some guys can just change to defensive complextion of a team almost single handedly. Ron Artest is a good example of a guy like that.

Defense only stops when a team secures the ball and gets heading down the court on offense. Gene Shue used to say the offense started when the outlet pass was caught. In an uptempo offense part of the job of the defense is to secure and push the ball.

One of the Wizards big weaknesses has been an inability to secure the ball on defense, second and third shots have always killed this team. McGuire is one of those "nose for the ball guys" that every team needs.

Tapps needs to remember TMac was a lowpost guy in college, run a few post ups for the guy early in the game "ala" Brendan Haywood last year. Sometimes a guy just needs to get some confidence in his offensive game to get going. For an ex- center the guy's got excellent court vision and distributes the ball really well. He's helped ball movement on offense and he's a potentially a great on the ball defender. Darnell called this one on draft day, he's going to be a solid NBA starter.

I look forward to when the Wizards can get Haywood and McGuire on the Court together, a weak defensive team may suddenly become very respectable. And Blatche's improved defensive play shouldn't be overlooked. The guy's starting to really get it and is stringing together a nice series of games.

An offense can work when you have one guy that you're insisting touches the ball. Trying to run it through two guys or three guys is a disaster. You end up with one of those guys getting the ball with three seconds on the shot clock and thirty feet from the rim like Butler has often this year.

Butler's injury has allowed Tapps to focus the offense and it's worked. Using Jamison as the primary option has improved the ball movement and guys aren't afraid to make a move or take an open shot instead of thinking about where the second primary option is on the court.

What makes Boston's threesome work is that they will alternate who the offense goes through and they switch it up during the game. Doc will have whole quarters where one of the big three barely touch the ball, then they'll come out and run play after play to that guy.

When Butler gets healthy, and he should take time and get healthy, Tapps needs to run the offense using either guy as the primary option at different times and not try and have the ball go through both of their hands like they've been doing.

And don't be afraid to have Butler or Jamison on the bench, this two game stretch proves they don't always have to be on the court together to win.

Keep them fresh for the fourth and play the bench more...

Posted by: flohrtv | December 30, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

True or False:

The Wizards shoot 0 for 60 on FGs and 0 for 20 on FT and Phil Chenier and Dagger guy would say something positive like "two or three of those shots could have gone in"?

I like hometown announcers but they have gotten very funny to listen to with all the Wizards miseries this year.

Nice win last night without 3 starters and Houston having everybody somewhat healthy.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 30, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that JD gets owned by PGs because Juan is not a true PG but is playing that position out of necessity??

Juan as a #2 holds up well against most 2s in the league.

Even at MD, JD did not play the 1, Stevie Blake did.

Juan is a shooting guard! But due to injuries and personnel he is forced to play out of position.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 30, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

1. James - Dixon - crit - stevenson
2. Butler- young - dixon - stevenson
3. AJ- Mcguire
4. Blatche - Aj - song
5. Mcgee - Blatche - Etan - song

Dom can also play some pf depending on personnel and the 2, he should get starters minutes in this configuration
James-25
Butler-35
AJ- 35
AB- 30
Dom 30
Mcgee- 25
NY/dixon 40
Song/etan 20
This is 240 but crit should be able to steal a couple minutes 5-10 from someone or a collection of them all, deshawn is emergency only and aj can only play pf when dom is on the floor.

Posted by: bford1kb | December 30, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

caron shoulda been playing the two and blatche should have been starting all year, the going with a big lineup ivan threw out as a possible match up advantage in our favor is the truth, we stood no chance with jamison and song logging the majority of minutes on the frontline, dom has really helped both ab and jamison, he inspires blatche and helps aj his energy and defensive is unquantifiable, even without scoring his passing and rebounding help the offense, we rotate the ball way better with him on the floor too. Even last year with our improved d and routine close game wins it was obvious that something needed to happen to mitigate jamison's d and the lack of offensive production from the guard spots, and that was with roger mason. Cb moving to the two helps both of these major issues by allowing dom to help defensively and caron to help balance the floor.

Posted by: bford1kb | December 30, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see the game, but JAMES came to play. Commentary says PAUL beat him like a tom-tom. But then CP3 beats almost every point guard the same way. Triple double. James' game just isn't at PAUL's level, but we got value for an aging yet valuable back-up PG in AD. Good to see him coming off the bench instead of wearing himself out starting, and for a winning team. Good for him.

Fair value in this trade for both teams. Will be interesting to see if J-CRIT becomes the player that ERNIE GRUNFELD and ED TAPSCOTT believe he is. They think he's the next coming of AGENT ZERO. Not so far.

Glad to see the cast is off BRENDAN's wrist. Now the rehab can begin. Maybe he'll be ready by early March. That would be nice. He can begin the road back with a month's playing time before next season.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 30, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

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