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Charlotte 80, Wizards 72

Well, there it is: the Wizards are officially off to the worst start in franchise history. 4-22.

The ugliest stat of the night was this: the Bobcats came in as one of the worst rebounding teams in the league yet finished with a 52-41 rebounding edge and a 42-24 avantage in points in the paint. Emeka Okafor (29 points, 18 rebounds, four assists) dominated.

Still, it was a game after Caron Butler (31 points) made a pair of free throws to make it 70-69 Bobcats with 3:56 to go. But Charlotte then ripped off a 10-0 run: an Okafor layup, an Okafor dunk off of his own miss, a Gerald Wallace dunk off of an alley-oop pass and a Wallace layup.

-The Wizards finished with a season-low in points (72),shooting percentage (32.3 percent) and assists (9).

-Dominic McGuire grabbed a team-high 10 boards in his first start of the season and played with good energy at both ends but missed a couple of bunnies and didn't score in 23 minutes.

By Ivan Carter  |  December 23, 2008; 10:39 PM ET
 
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Comments

You people are the worst fans in sports. Seriously, it was more pleasant following this team back when they were reliably awful. This is a very well constructed team with two major injuries. Please turn your bitterness and hate against yourselves this holiday season.

Posted by: IrenePollin | December 23, 2008 5:06 PM

Tell ABE to quit being so cheap, spend some money, go over the luxury cap and build a winner. This current team sucks and if you think they are a well constructed team, then you are crazy. They have 4 wins, that equals sucks and I do not care how many injuries they have. You are right on one point, it was more pleasant following this team back when they were reliably awful, at least the fans had hope that a good draft pick could turn things around. After the signing of AJ and Gilbert and with ABE being so cheap there is no hope at all. It is not bitterness and hate, it is what fans call passion about winning a championship, and it is something ABE does not have.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 23, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Why is Tap bothering to treat this team like his personal science experiment?

Let the original starters start and let them do what they do....win or lose.

Nobody in their right mind should expect anything for this team anyway, especially not the playoffs.

Nothing will change with this team until BTH gets healthy again, this team trades for a 4 that can score and defend, and/or this team is blown up entirely.

None of the young bucks have shown that they can step up, and that's the reason why they weren't lottery picks.

They are no franchise players/diamonds in the rough and won't be able to have any sort of sustained production.

Plus, Tap is just the interim coach holding the fort until EG can hire a permanent coach.

As I said earlier, call it a season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 23, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Time to get on the Ovenchkin bandwagon.

He's the only MVP in this town, superstar, and worthy of franchise status.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 23, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I am waiting for Tapscott to blame the injuries, but he can't cause that would vindicate Eddie Jordan.

Posted by: twigmuffin | December 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"I am waiting for Tapscott to blame the injuries, but he can't cause that would vindicate Eddie Jordan.

Posted by: twigmuffin | December 23, 2008 11:23 PM "

Tap seems like a stand up guy who won't cry and make excuses about why Les BouleS are losing.

Surely, he won't be dumb enough to blame his boss by saying "this team was built around Gilby..."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 23, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Watch the Caps!

Posted by: jincargo | December 23, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Missed the whole game except the last 1:41. On the court was DSon, CB, AJ, DStev, and James. What the hay is up. That is not a crunchtime lineup. ETaps is not giving these boys a chance. He has no clue.

I have been saying this, but no one seems to notice, JD is the floor leader for this team right now. He is a score first mentality and he should be pushing the ball to score or pass to his breakers and if nothing is there, set up the offense.

JD-1, CB-2, AJ-3, AB-4, and JM-5. Look to push every play and if no easy score ops' set up for halfcourt O'. Let JC backup JD. Don't ever put James back in the point. He is not and never will be a floor leader. In fact, cut him and bring Dee Brown back. James as a point sucks, but you cannot blame him. Some of you along with ETaps thinks that he can play point. HE CAN NOT PLAY THE POINT!!!

Why ETaps insist on trying to win with traditional NBA philosophy is giving me a headache.

Mr. Grunfield, you have got to go and get your boy. The interim keeper should at least develop and keep the talents tuned of the players. Mr. Grunfield, in case you can't see it ETaps, is wrecking the joint. Look at the body language of the bench players. They are disinterested because they know that ETaps does not have a clue.

You heard it from LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 23, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Juan looks out of his comfort zone when he's starting. He looks more comfortable coming off the bench as a hired gun.

Despite what people say about Juan, he can score in bunches, is effective, and leaves it all on the court. Very few players on this team can claim all 3.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 23, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

who cares that the starting lineup changed the crunch time lineup stays the same it was a 1 point game when deshawn came back into the game to play no defense and offer no threat on the offensive side of the ball, at the beginning of the year nick young looked like the third best player on the team and it looks as though both coaching staffs have managed to strip him of all of his confidence.

Posted by: billy12 | December 23, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

If this team is not looking to run teams out of the gym there is no amount if lineup juggling, that will make any difference.

Why, why, why, why, can somebody tell me why, does ED TAPSCOTT, think this team can win any games playing slow ball?

Ivan, Mike, can you either of you tell me why he thinks that?

My Gosh, if Gilbert came back tommorrow, do you think he would play slow ball?

Ivan, Mike, why is this team playing slow ball?

Can you ask somebody for me?

And before you let somebody say cause thay cannot rebound, let me advise you that when you play UpTemPo ball, the whole dynamics of rebounding changes.

Ivan, Mike, let me know, let all of us know, why this team of young talented and seasoned primetime vets are not even atempting to play to their abilities by,(to borrow a football analogy) stretching the floor.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 23, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Can someone count how many rebounds JM gave up to Okafor because he was running to try and contest a 3 point shot (way late with no hope of doing so btw) instead of getting dirty in the paint? It was painful seeing Okafor just dominating CB and AJ while JM is 15 feet away from the rim.

Hopefully that shows up in the film sessions...

Posted by: yukiwith2us | December 24, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

72 points. How can you only score 72 points against the Bobcats. Oh! Oh! Oh! I forgot, we play slowball up here in Washington DC.

Let me ask yawl' a question. Did yawl' know that some coaches don't coach UpTemPo style cause' they think that when the team Runs and Guns up and down the flo' it mit' show that they are out of control and the coach is not in control? Any uh' yawl' ever heard that befo'?

Well, I have and I think Ed Tapscott has too. Why else would he play slow ball with a team like this?

Mr. Grunfield, go and get yo' boy.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 24, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Can someone count how many rebounds JM gave up to Okafor because he was running to try and contest a 3 point shot (way late with no hope of doing so btw) instead of getting dirty in the paint? It was painful seeing Okafor just dominating CB and AJ while JM is 15 feet away from the rim.


This is nothing new. EJ had Haywood doing the same thing on Defense. The system need to change. I understand the switching/sharing to defense but it not working for this team. Leave the big boys with the big boys to battle out rebounding.

Posted by: demonj21 | December 24, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 24, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe the Wizards are going to be on national TV on Christmas.

Maybe if they put out another embarrassing pathetic performance Grunfeld will start making some moves!

Posted by: Darnell1 | December 24, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Start looking to the draft...

A couple good PF prospects Blake Griffin and Jordan Hill.

Posted by: Darnell1 | December 24, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Not sure Juan is good at the point. I want to see Crittenden more when he learns system because he is the only one on roster other than Gil who may have both the skills and mentality of a point guard.

Caron played hard and was hot but I thought Taps said he would tell the team to stop jacking up early jumpers and attack the rim? That is not what I saw, especially from Caron.

McGee needs lots of work but goodness all those 4th quarter lobs over Blatche and Darius were driving me crazy.

Jamison needs to be sixth man. His foot speed missmatch is getting worse to me.

The idea most of us had was for DS to be at the end of the bench, not a major contributor. The more I hear Taps' explanation the more angry I get about it. He claimed that DS is an example of hard work, toughness and is good example for the younger players. What? dissing Labron James? Giving the team an undeserved reputation as thugs last spring? Or waving his hand over his face after hitting a jumper after missing 4? Come on that is ridiculous!

BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | December 24, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

And I should add that saying that Gil has the mentality of a point guard is being very kind. Skills? absolutely no argument here, but the mentality is debatable.

BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | December 24, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

"Tap seems like a stand up guy who won't cry and make excuses about why Les BouleS are losing."

He's had to bite his tongue a few times, a few more losses and he'll crack.

Posted by: twigmuffin | December 24, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

"Start looking to the draft...

A couple good PF prospects Blake Griffin and Jordan Hill.

Posted by: Darnell1 | December 24, 2008 12:43 AM "

Blake Griffin...probably another Shane Battier.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 24, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

"Can someone count how many rebounds JM gave up to Okafor because he was running to try and contest a 3 point shot (way late with no hope of doing so btw) instead of getting dirty in the paint? It was painful seeing Okafor just dominating CB and AJ while JM is 15 feet away from the rim.

Hopefully that shows up in the film sessions...

Posted by: yukiwith2us | December 24, 2008 12:00 AM "

So where are all the biotches calling JaTravel the savior of Les BouleS now?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 24, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Did anybody on this Blog see the highlights of Timmay' running a fast break?

And why is their so many of you can't see that this team needs to run first.

Why do so many of you keep making comments that have nothing to do with fast break basketball.

Oh! Oh! Oh! I know, yawl' like slow ball up here' in Washington, DC.

If yawl' ain't encouraging the Wiz's to run the ball, stay off the Blog, take your ball and go home. They can't win any other way. If you don't know what fast break basketball is, like yo' buddy Ed Tapscott, I don't won't ta' see anymo' of your immaterial comments.

Enough, Enough, already, they got to run the ball Washington, DC.

JD, where you at? Run the ball. JC, where you at? Run the ball.

ETaps, where you at? Run the ball or resign.

Barack Obama knows you gotta' run the ball. Why else would he play pickup wit' them dar' Tarheels.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 24, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

"Start looking to the draft...

A couple good PF prospects Blake Griffin and Jordan Hill.

Posted by: Darnell1 | December 24, 2008 12:43 AM "

Blake Griffin...probably another Shane Battier

PG (Rubio) is the way to go! Move gil to SG, Butler to SF, Blatche PF, Haywood Center (Until McGee beef up), Jamison off the bench. Rubio is like Steve Nash, he'll deliver crazy passes to our big men. Doing this will make them better. We do not need too many stars on our team - just more role players.

Posted by: demonj21 | December 24, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

This ia a team of 5 small forwards...it ios obvious AB is not a 4 or 5, not interested in mixing it up.
That is why he is correct that the only hope is run and gun.
You have AJ, AB, DS, JM, CB, MJ all want to shoot jumpers or layups, no drivers and dishes...so speed it up, because as was said above, they either can not or will not play half court defense.
They can not stop penetration, can not stop dishes, and the defensice scheme is ridiculous.
Every one packs it in, not sure who they are guarding, all cheating on defense, and like on offense no one is moving their feet.
This screams of non coaching.
It is time for no more experimental coaches, no more want to be coaches, but an actual true and proven coach, with an actual record of having been a winner. It does seem to work like that in the NBA, no substitute for success and a track record.
Someone that can get the attention of the players, and who will have enough knowledge to actually be able to influence player movement to satisfy his playing philosophy, which is proven to be a winner. We have had not one of these coaches.
We need a control freak coach, not a nice guy/friend to the players. A put up or shut up, hit the road coach.

Posted by: maxman2162 | December 24, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

"We need a control freak coach, not a nice guy/friend to the players. A put up or shut up, hit the road coach.

Posted by: maxman2162 | December 24, 2008 2:15 AM "

The only way that kind of coach would be effective/have credibility is if he's got rings....and those type of coaches cost money...big money.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 24, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Taps: It's a league of veterans.

But what's the only common demoninator of those successful veterans? - they played and gained confidence earlier.

Rondo was a 21st pick in 2006. He wouldn't have played here. In Boston he played 23 minutes in 78 games, 29 minutes in 79 games and is up to 31 minutes this year.

Stuckey was the 15th pick in 2007. He wouldn't have played here. But he's now starting in Detroit and scored 40 last night.

A fan wrote to Chenier and asked when the young guys will be given some of AJ's and CB's minutes, and Phil said let's hope it doesn't come to that.

The organization has no ability to instill confidence in the young players and live through their mistakes.

Yet they have 5 unschooled youngsters on the roster. Such a waste.

Posted by: Izman | December 24, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 24, 2008 12:15 AM

Wilcox plays no defense either as evidenced by his career averages of .5 steals and .4 blocks including a whopping 6 blocks this season. Six! 6'10" with six blocks in 22 games? Not sure what problems he would solve.

Posted by: akmed0 | December 24, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

interesting experiment, but it didnt work. DMac just got all AJ's rebounds. He is not ready to start.

I guess next, it will be NY starting at the 2.

Starting to realize that AB really lacks some fundementals. He is not a 5.

Without GA and BTH, the Wiz have been exposed, as they nobody to play defense at the 5 or the 4.

Its so hard to watch I havent been able to bring myself to go to the VC yet this year; thank god for the remote control.

Posted by: oddjob2 | December 24, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

I guess that old saying, "be careful what you ask for" is starting to ring true. Tapscott has successfully screwed things up worse then Eddie J' ever did.

Did anyone see that body language from the bench? Not surprising the bench had all of the youngsta's on it. Tapscott has killed their confidence (McGee and NY), after the both of them were flourishing under Eddie J'.

Tapscott is playing AJ and CB way more minutes then Eddie J' was playing them and still getting the same results. Last but not least, Tabscott is playing Song. more minutes at the 5 then Eddie J' ever did. Who would have ever thought that was possible????

They are playing the very same defense Eddie J' was playing and have not changed it. My point in all of this, why then fire Eddie J' if we were going to get the same rotation calls plus kill all of the confidence and big MO McGee had going under Eddie J'?

I still like Ernie G. as GM and at the time it looked like the right time to release Eddie J' so that we could do a 180 and go in another direction as far as defensive sets, sub calling, and game time development of the young guys.

However, if all of the above mentioned are still be done like the way Eddie J' was doing it, what was the sense of firing Eddie J' then???? This is even worse because you have a guy who has no coaching experience losing vs. someone who had coaching experience who you might had believed might turn it around because of his experience.

Ernie G. - It is time for you to call Tapscott in and demand he give the young boys minutes, stop playing Song. at the 5, decrease Stevenson's minutes, decrease CB's and AJ's minutes, play OPEC, 25 -30 minutes for McGee sink or swim, play straight man to man defense with no switching, showing high, or doubling down; just straight man on man.

If Tapscott does not agree or want to, reassign him somewhere else and insert Randy Ayers.... PLEASE!!!! I am starting not to care anymore about watching the games. There are many more fans feeling the same way. No way am I paying to see bad coaching like this.......

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Look at the stats. 32% shooting, 12 free throws ( should be 25-30 ), 9 assists ( should be 20 or more ) Give Juan Dixon some PT at PG. He can spark the team, with his attitude and hustle. They are not penetrating. It is jump shot after jump shot, and most of them are not good looks. I like DM, but all he did was get 10 rebounds and zero points, which is his replacement numbers for DS.

Posted by: bailey5 | December 24, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

How is the interior domination JM's fault when he played all of 9 minutes? What are you ppl talking about? I agree about having the C run out to the wings, though. I complained about that last year. How about looking at the C position?
Songaila played C last night and in 22 minutes gave us 4 rebounds,4 points and 5 fouls.
AB is clearly not a low post defender. He's not a low post offensive player either because he's a finger roller. If he's not a low post defender or offender, guess what...he's not a C. The guy is a PF. Let's end the C experiment with AB.
Even Etan Thomas would have been a better choice to defend Okafor last night and everyone knows I'm no Etan fan.

Just look at the stats and the complete story of this loss is apparent. We held the Bobcats to 41% shooting, forced 18 turnovers to our 8, held them to only 3-13 from 3 point land, and they shot 61% from the ft line yet we still lost. REBOUNDS REBOUNDS REBOUNDS.

Hey, Tap... Songaila aint the answer. TRY PECH !! Try anything. Songaila aint the answer.

As others have stated, EJ was a much much much better option than Tap . At least he gave JM some minutes and was attempting to groom him. Seems like Tap picked up all of Eddie's bad habits and none of his good ones.

JM will definitely struggle a bit but I'm pretty sure he could do better than to allow a 6'10 center averaging 14 and 11 to get 29 and 18 on us.

We need to scrap the Princeton so that Crittendon can get some time and we need to start JM and leave him there. AB is a jump shooter and should play PF only.

I can't wait until next year when we have a shot at getting a real coach. I can understand situational substitution but Songaila wasn't working.

AJ and CB played 40 minutes apiece again.
The injury is coming...

PLAY PECH. FREE PECH.

Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I could not agree with you more, BulletsFever.

The only saving grace might be Ayers running the show. We need a new voice and direction.

29 and 18 for Emeka Okafor??!!!

wtf ?!

Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Izman,

Great post.

Play the young guys. We obviously suck, and Tawn's 20 and 10, matador defense, and Caron's attempts to steal the ball in the back court are not getting us wins.

Stop playing them so much. Play Nick and JaVale. Blatche to PF. Play Javaris. What the eff do we have to lose? We've lost 7 in a row. Mike James is a heist and not a player to win around.

Posted by: AndrewToussaint7 | December 24, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

re: Chris Wilcox..

He was a shotblocker in college. I know he's been asked to play a lot of C in the pros and maybe he needs to find a home where he can just play PF and he'd be better off. Of course, he could just be another Stromile Swift.

Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

"Wilcox plays no defense either as evidenced by his career averages of .5 steals and .4 blocks including a whopping 6 blocks this season. Six! 6'10" with six blocks in 22 games? Not sure what problems he would solve.

Posted by: akmed0 | December 24, 2008 7:30 AM "

Playing defense is not just about blocking shots.

It's also about being a physical presence, holding your position, and altering shots.

AJ does none of that.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 24, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I was watching both the Caps and Wiz and stayed with the Wiz towards the end. What a friggin mess! How is it that we lose EVERY game in the last four or five minutes. We go scoreless the last few minutes while the other team hit from everywhere on the court. What is up with that! Made me say "What the Hell!!! " I should have been watching Ovie and the Caps, at least I would have saw a team that should have been beat come back and kick butt! Go Caps!! Lordy, I hate to see the butt kicking they are going to get on National TV on Christmas day by Lebron and his merrymen. What a total embarassment that is going to be. I love my Wiz but DAMN! If they let the ThunderCats beat them, I am done for the season. You can't get any lower than that.

Posted by: ivyleague | December 24, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

....and neither does anyone else on our team consistently because they are either too light in the arse (JM) or too short (ET and Song).
The only one with a shot at being able to do it now is JM. At least he can handle the shot altering part. He's not a physical presence yet but he's the best we have. Why are we not starting him?

Please tell me you're not on board with the DSong Center experiment, 88.


Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

DSong seems like a solid contributor coming off the bench at the 4 and has done well since EJ left.

JaTravel might get a flashy block here, and a flashy dunk there, but all in all, he can't be relied on to be a consistent producer at the 5 spot.

By having him start at the 5, knowing full well his limited capabilities, you're pretty much waving the white flag anyway...and season is only about 1/4 done.

You get to a point where you're pretty much analyzed out about Les BouleS b/c none of the pieces play well together and not much improvement can be expected at one particular spot based on changing a player.

There's really no reason to relive the hype of a potential Gilby return, so both he and BTH should rest up for next season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 24, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Agreed on the part about this season being done. I also have seen a lot of guys driving down the middle on JM but at least he occasionally challenges ppl. AB and Songaila may as well be carrying a red cape. Etan is even better at defending the post.
I doubt Pech would be able to do anything but at least he might be able to get a few rebounds or at the very least draw an opposing big man away from the basket to make it easier for us to score. No one has any answers but I know that Song at the 5 does not work. I wonder why it takes so long for Tap and EJ to see that.

Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

That game against Cleveland is going to be a straight slaughter. The way LaTravel is playing now, we would have had a hard enough time staying with them with Gil and Haywood.

Now, we are in deep trouble. The Wiz might lose this game by about 40 points. Tapscott is not going to change just like Eddie J' was not going to change. The minute "slow small ball" with Song. at the 5 and Stevenson at the 2 comes in the horses are going to be let out of the gates.

The young boys have no confidence because Tapscott has killed it, the veterans like CB and AJ are ran into the ground so they have nothing left in the 4th quarter because Tapscott refuses to get rid of that stupid rule he made that either CB or AJ have to be on the floor at all times.

Tapscott - Wake up man...!!! They are not Michael Jordan or Scottie Pippen...!!! Time to get BOTH of them blows near the end of the 1st quarter and 3rd quarters. That way they will have something left in the last 5 minutes of the games.

With that, that means one of the youngsta's get those end of quarter minutes which in turn builds their confidence level. Then when you bring CB and AJ back in together around the 6 min. mark in the 4th they are fresh.

It is a win win situation. The youngsta's are happy because they got some minutes and then CB and AJ are not gased out during the last 6 minutes of games and they will be able to produce then.

But once again, that is just to much like right.........??? This is Tapscott who we are talking about.....

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Everybody talks about the young guys...
They SUCK!
Nick Young can't go left. How can you be in the NBA and not be able to drive to the basket with your left hand?
Each of them has glaring weakness there is not an future All-Star in the bunch.
Heres my prediction, for the next 5 years the Wiz will be horrible. A perrenial LOSER at the bottom of the Southeast division.
I guess we're back where we started...

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 24, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

As we know, the last 4-5 minutes is when teams really start to play during the regular season.

The first 40+ minutes is just (mostly) going through the motions.

Yeah, it's about execution at the end; but you have to have the players to execute.

Simply not enough talent.

I think they're going to try and struggle with the veterans until Arenas gets back. Then give him 20 games to see what they have. Pretty sure they don't want to throw him in there with the younger players and try to do too much.

At that point (after the 20 games), they'll throw it to the younger ones. Unless by some miracle they go 12-8 or 14-6 during that run.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 24, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

These are the players that are killing the development of McGee, NY, and OPEC.

1/ Songalia - Taps and Eddie J' favorite

2/ Stevenson - Taps and Eddie J' favorite

3/ Etan - Eddie J' favorite

*** Word of advice to Ernie G. If you trade Songalia and Stevenson you then force the hand of Tapscott to play McGee and NY more minutes

Ernie G you had to do that with Ruffin and Jarvis to force Eddie J's hand. Time to pull the trigger again.

Nothing against Songalia because I really like his game, BUT AT THE 4 SPOT NOT THE 5. If it means you have to trade him to take away Tapscott fixation with playing him at the 5, THEN DO SO.....!!!!!!

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I must say I agree with you DC Man McGee just ain't ready. But in watching the game last night, what killed us (on top of the fact that we can't hit a shot down the stretch) was that we couldn't get a rebound on either end, and we couldn't defend the paint.

McGee, for all his weaknesses, will get a rebound. So that's plus #1. Plus #2 is that the alley oop is a high percentage shot and its good when the opposing defense gets tight. Plus #3 is that opposing guards and small forwards will hesitate to drive and put up a shot. The big minus is that Okafor will look like Dwight Howard with JM guarding him, and Gerald Wallace will look like Shawn Kemp (skinny Shawn Kemp, not fat Shawn Kemp).

So nothing really changes for the opposing team's philosophy going down the stretch, regardless if its DSong or AB or JM at the 5. Dump it in to your 4 or 5. That's what Charlotte did, and that's what everyone else has been doing. The difference with JM, or even AB, is that you'll get some rebounds and some blocked/altered shots. DSong is fundamentally sound, he gets good rebounding position, but someone more athletic invariably comes in and snatches the big rebound because he's only 6'9". And he can't block a shot because he can't jump.

So what we are missing is a closer (Gil), and a presence inside (BTH) down the stretch.

And by the way, Nick Young is getting abused on the defensive end, just like McGee is. For better or worse, that's why Taps hasn't been giving him burn.

Posted by: jones-y | December 24, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain why we settle for 20 foot jumpers EVERY TIME down court. There was one segment in the second quarter where it was swing the ball around until someone decides to get his own. This included 7 foot Andray Blatche taking two steps off the dribble and then trying to stop and pop from 18. I'm shocked we shot over 30% with the shot selection I saw last night.

Ivan, can you do a story on all of the late game meltdowns? It's getting kind of ridiculous.

Posted by: MBUSA | December 24, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

DC_Man_88, the season is almost than 1/3 done with (26x3=78), and we play the Cavs tomorrow (81) -- that's a loss. No timetable on Arenas.

By the way, for jimmydean, who said the young guys suck. No sh*t they have glaring weaknesses, they're mid-first-round draft picks. Hence, you play them in hopes that they will get better and improve their weaknesses.

People act like things can get ANY worse. Oh, we're not doing the right thing by playing JaVale, he'll screw up, he won't rebound, he'll travel, he'll be out of position. WE ARE 4-22! Blatche and Song have no future at the 5. Stop trying to triage the season and play McGee for 15-20 minutes a night at least.

You need to come up with a possible solution rather than just hating the Bullets.

Posted by: AndrewToussaint7 | December 24, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

That was ugly at the end. Not as ugly as it could have been if Butler had an off night. He really is a good player. I can see what Kobe was so upset at that Lakers trade.

Charlotte, on the other hand, is getting better. On their way to respectable, it seems. Diaw definitely helps, and Bell gives them a defensive stopper for the first time, oh, in recorded memory. They don't miss Jason Richardson. They still look iffy at the point -- both of those guards are pretty small.

Okafor -- he looked okay last night, but he's no NBA center. It occurs to me that he'd actually be a good fit in Washington, playing next to Haywood or the kid. Wonder what they'd want in trade? Of course, there's always the injury issue -- his back.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 24, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

demonj21 wrote: "Blake Griffin...probably another Shane Battier..PG (Rubio) is the way to go!"

Rubio does look terrific out there. And plays defense too, apparently. But he's very young and more importantly, probably isn't planning to enter this draft. If he did, he'd be the best guard prospect, I agree.

Blake Griffin doesn't remind me of Shane Battier. He's a rebounder, first and foremost. Has expanded his game to include jump shooting, but at heart he likes to mix it up inside. He has decent but not exceptional size, and terrific quickness.

That would be a real good thing to have on the Wiz.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

jones-y,
Ny and Jm are definitely not defensive stalwarts. That's crystal clear. The issue I have with Tap is that their veteran replacements (DS and DSONG) aren't either. At least the young guys have a shot at improving. What we see is what we're gonna get from the vets.
FREE PECH !!

Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

And by the way, Nick Young is getting abused on the defensive end, just like McGee is. For better or worse, that's why Taps hasn't been giving him burn.

Posted by: jones-y | December 24, 2008 11:00 AM

Jones-y - Yes I agree. But once again "double standard" coaching is always on display with this team.

McGee and NY might get abused "sometimes" on the defensive end, but if Tapscott is going to use that for a reason for no minutes; What is his excuse for Stevenson and AJ?????

Looks to me like they get abused "on the regular" but you see they still get burn.....?????

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Jones-y,

You're totally right about NY get pushed around.

He was defending Diaw and got pushed from the free throw line all the way past the baseline for a lay-up.

I realized lastnight that our team is undersized for each postion, except pg i guess.

Its amazing to think that LeBron is bigger than every player we have including centers.

PATHETIC!!!

Posted by: BurgwithaU | December 24, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Ivan, can you do a story on all of the late game meltdowns? It's getting kind of ridiculous.

Posted by: MBUSA | December 24, 2008 11:09 AM

No story needed. Mismanagement of minutes is the root cause. Tapscott does not trust anybody other then Song. AJ, CB, Stevenson, and James. He runs them into the ground without giving them proper "blows" and they gas out the last 5 minutes of the game.

Tapscott needs to start trusting the youngsta's more and until he does we are going to keep getting the same results....

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Not that I agree with playing the veterans regardless, because they are in fact underperforming, but in a league where you have around 200 players getting consistent minutes (and 180 of them are vets, the other 20 are top ten rookies/sophomores) , you have to be very careful when you either elevate or remove someone from that status. For a variety of reasons.


On top of that, there are intangibles that every veteran brings (the very reason they're veterans in the first place - they have sticking power), and every young player must develop. Things like where to be on the floor and a host of others.

The point is, a veteran in the NBA is much different than a veteran in the NFL or MLB. The status 'veteran' carries a LOT more weight in this league.

Posted by: jones-y | December 24, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I guess the conundrum is that when we play the young guys, we get behind by 20. By the time AJ and CB try to come in and do their thing, we're always coming from behind. There's gotta be a decent mix but its going to take some above average coaching to come up with it.
I say scrap the Princeton so that Crittendon can come in and contribute. He surely knows standard NBA sets by now. Let's run some basic stuff and see if we can just use our talent rather than our scheme to try to at least keep up offensively.

Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

On top of that, there are intangibles that every veteran brings (the very reason they're veterans in the first place - they have sticking power), and every young player must develop. Things like where to be on the floor and a host of others.

Posted by: jones-y | December 24, 2008 11:32 AM

Jones-y - One quick question for you. How does a young player "develop" these intangibles? Or better yet, how did these veterans develop these intangibles. That's right you guessed it, I would think by playing and learning under fire.

Your statement about the veterans is definitely true only if you were winning abut 60 percent of the time or more.

We are at 0 percent when it comes to winning with these "intangible savy" veterans Tapscott keeps playing to death. Just because you are a veteran does not mean you should get minutes if your production on the court does not merit it.

See that way of thinking is what is preventing them from winning a game in the first place. They are 4 and 21.....!!!! What intangibles are being displayed from Stevenson, Song., and for that matter AJ that are being used to help them win games??????

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

original_mark wrote: "I say scrap the Princeton so that Crittendon can come in and contribute. He surely knows standard NBA sets by now."

He's an intriguing guy. But supposedly his strength is driving to the basket. He's one of those hang-time players that double-pumps, etc., to clear room for the layup. Big guys definitely have an advantage at PG, too.

Not a set-up-the-play sort of PG. Bet he'd do well in that DDM scheme the Nets run, or the Celtics. The PG's primary job is to penetrate and either score or find the open shooter.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 24, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

On top of that, there are intangibles that every veteran brings (the very reason they're veterans in the first place - they have sticking power), and every young player must develop. Things like where to be on the floor and a host of others.

Posted by: jones-y | December 24, 2008 11:32 AM

Jones-y - One quick question for you. How does a young player "develop" these intangibles? Or better yet, how did these veterans develop these intangibles. That's right you guessed it, I would think by playing and learning under fire.

Your statement about the veterans is definitely true only if you were winning abut 60 percent of the time or more.

We are at 0 percent when it comes to winning with these "intangible savvy" veterans Tapscott keeps playing to death. Just because you are a veteran does not mean you should get minutes if your production on the court does not merit it.

See that way of thinking is what is preventing them from winning a game in the first place. They are 4 and 21.....!!!! What intangibles are being displayed from Stevenson, Song., and for that matter AJ that are being used to help them win games??????

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I say scrap the Princeton so that Crittendon can come in and contribute. He surely knows standard NBA sets by now. Let's run some basic stuff and see if we can just use our talent rather than our scheme to try to at least keep up offensively.

Posted by: original_mark | December 24, 2008 11:33 AM

Agreed, if we're always settling for 20 foot jumpers, why not just go to a standard pick and roll/pick and pop offense that two guys at the Y can pull off. At least it would get you a)moving to the basket (which we are NOT doing) or b)an actual open look at the basket (which we are NOT getting). There is a reason why Jerry Sloan has kept his job 20 years and it's not just Malone, Stockton, Williams or Boozer.

Posted by: MBUSA | December 24, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I guess what gets me with the Gizards is that they are just as content as can be with shooting CONTESTED perimeter shots, while their opponents know to get the ball inside, create fouls, and when the "defense" the Gizards play packs it inside, THEN they shoot jumpers. This is not rocket science. Alley-oops+lay-ups+ assists= more foul shots/better FG % and wins. At the beginning of the 4th qtr I made an efort to compare the Gizard jump shots to the Bobcats lay-ups. Needless to say, the results were what I expected. I'm beginning to think that maybe the question is not about the talent with this team, but maybe its the brains. My little league team knows that you win from the inside out. 9 assists? What the hell??? Just a case of 5 individual players going one-on-one. No team concept on offense or defense for that matter. Good luck against the "overrated" LeBron!

Posted by: hamptonpirates89 | December 24, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

And...they tend to shoot all of those outside jumpers at the end of the 4th quarter when they should be driving to the basket to get a two and one. But no.....they shoot those ridiculous outside shots, miss and the other team takes it to the hoop on them. They will be down by two or four and the next thing you know, it is 1:56 and they are now down by nine. I swear it is like the movie Ground Hog Day. Different game same results.

Posted by: ivyleague | December 24, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

After my post, it has occurred to me what this team's problem is. They're making this game WAY TOO HARD. I bet if you tossed Stevenson the rock and just said, "go play and have fun" he'd get you 10 and 4 and maybe get pumped enough to play defense.

Instead we play this ring-around-the-rosie offense that always ends up with someone being forced to jack a 20 foot contested jumper with the shot clock winding down. Which leads to a demoralized team running back to defend a fast break because the other team got off on a quick start after a long rebound.

I think LarryInClinton was spot on with his first post here.

Posted by: MBUSA | December 24, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

And...they tend to shoot all of those outside jumpers at the end of the 4th quarter when they should be driving to the basket to get a two and one. But no.....they shoot those ridiculous outside shots, miss and the other team takes it to the hoop on them. They will be down by two or four and the next thing you know, it is 1:56 and they are now down by nine. I swear it is like the movie Ground Hog Day. Different game same results.

Posted by: ivyleague | December 24, 2008 12:18 PM

ivyleage - Fatigue will make you just shoot jumpshots instead of driving. Again, Tapscott is burning out CB and AJ the first 3 and 1/2 quarters by not giving them proper "blows".

This goes back to "leaning to much" on your veterans who are not superstars like Kobe, Labron, or KG. Tapscott has to monitor their minutes better and threaten them to at least pass the ball 3 times before even looking like you are going to shoot a long jumpshot.

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 24, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

BulletsFever,

You make good points, however there is still a problem and that is 'losing' your vets. Once they're lost (and benching them is a great way to do so) they're gone. And they're not coming back next year to give max effort. They in effect become dead weight, and most likely untradeable (the guaranteed contract plays heavily into all this 'veteran' mess as well).

Another thing. How many players has Memphis ruined? How many studs have the Clippers stunted? You throw a rook/sophomore into the fire in a losing situation and they will get burned. They will not learn how to win. They will only learn how to get their stats. They may turn the corner at a later stage of their careers, or with another organization, but that is the definition of stunted growth...

You don't just put the youngins in. You put 'em in a position to be successful.

Again, I'm in no way for playing the vets regardless, but what I AM saying is that its not nearly as cut and dry for coachess and GMs as it is for us fans on this blog.

Posted by: jones-y | December 24, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

DS coming off of the bench wasn't such a big deal! He played more minutes last night than he normally does! I looked up and he was still on the floor from the mid 1st quarter to half time. Just pathetic! Even JC didn't get his customary 33.4 secs at the end of each quarter because of DS.

Posted by: antoniologan | December 24, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh Yeah! Why are we not runnin? I thought that was one of the reasons we got rid of AD?

Posted by: antoniologan | December 24, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Why is Ivan Carter so soft on what is arguably the worst team in the league? He's really not critical of anyone on the team or the organization. Is he trying to hang out with the players? Does he care at all about the Bullets being a winning team - you wouldn't know it. In Philly or NYC, etc., they'd be tearing this team/organization to shreds. Enough is enough - stop being a coward and give us some critical analysis on your blog. That being said: Caron turns the ball over a disturbing amount; Jamison's shot selection, shooting percentage, and ability to block shots for a power forward is a joke; Stevenson should not touch the floor - 32% FG in the NBA - not even in the WNBA; Nick Young's game has been exceptionally weak; the team's offense is horrific - no semblance of rhythm or moving the ball for open shots, etc. Tap need to make sure guys (especially the youngsters) that play defense, get steals and blocks, and want to compete, get out there every night even if Caron and Jamison have to sit more - McVale, McGuire, McDixon, McJames (not young), even McBlatche.

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | December 24, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

It just seems to me that Caron tries to hard in the fourth. That is why he turns the ball over so much. He also takes a lot of shots towards the end and doesn't share the ball as much. Just an observation. Maybe the whole team is so down about losing that they over compensate and make too many mistakes. I say they should just go out and play ball. Don't worry about losing so much. Just do the damn thing! Maybe then they will get back to their winning ways. Merry Christmas all!

Posted by: ivyleague | December 24, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"You need to come up with a possible solution rather than just hating the Bullets."

AndrewToussaint7, don't waste your breath on DC88, hating the team is his whole game. This is the clown who cheered when Arenas went down. He's not worth your attention, wouldn't recognize a solution if it sat on his face.

Posted by: dabing | December 24, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

How can anybody say that Etan is holding back anyone's development, when Etan isn't playing?

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