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Monday Update: Daniels, Butler Practice

A few quick notes from today's practices at VC:

-Antonio Daniels, who fell hard on his back during the third quarter in Chicago Saturday night and left the game with a bruised tailbone, practiced and is good to go tomorrow night against Detroit. Caron Butler has a sore right foot and had some ice on it but is always good to go.

-Detroit Coach Michael Curry is expected to make a change, one that will insert Rodney Stuckey at point guard in a smallish lineup that will include Allen Iverson, Richard Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince and Rasheed Wallace. The Pistons are 7-8 with Iverson in the lineup and are clearly searching for the right mix. They are coming off a loss to the Knicks yesterday.

-Wizards Coach Ed Tapscott played rookie center JaVale McGee only 11 minutes Saturday night because the Bulls started Aaron Gray and then went super small for much of the game. Tapscott said McGee will start tomorrow night against Detroit's smaller lineup.

-Antawn Jamison on facing the Pistons and their smaller look: "It shouldn't be a problem at all. We're one of those teams that can go big if we're facing a team that's big and if we're facing a team that's small, we can go small. Chicago, they gave us some problems so we just have to do a better job against dribble penetration."

-The third quarter is killing the Wizards.They've been outscored in the third 13 times this season including recent losses to the Blazers, Lakers and Bulls.

-I'll be on Comcast's Washington Post Live this evening talking Wizards, so please check it out.


By Ivan Carter  |  December 8, 2008; 1:50 PM ET
 
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hey ivan is there any moves or trades that eg is looking into, and what have you heard about the possiable next coach. please answer my question cause i really want to know thanks ivan.

Posted by: brandonjamal13 | December 8, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Let McGee play! There's no value in playing Sonfoulya and Etan more minutes than McGee at this point.

Bad matchup? What better way to learn how to adjust to different personnel than to have McGee go up against different style/size players??

Posted by: sargeantmofo | December 8, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

This is going to be a tough game. Brown is going to have his hands full with Iverson, and McGee will be challenged guarding Rasheed out by the 3-point line. It'll be interesting to see how Tapscott mixes up the other defensive assignments.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 8, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I was kind of hoping AD would miss some time so Juan could get back in the rotation. Why the coaching staff believes in that stiff is beyond me.
At least Juan will extend the perimeter defense and nab a steal every now and again. AD can't give you anything beyond what play is being called.

Posted by: elfreako | December 8, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Tapscott said McGee will start tomorrow night against Detroit's smaller lineup (but will only play 11 minutes).

Antonio Daniels, practiced and is good to go tomorrow night against Detroit (which means Brown the only guard quick enough to keep up with AI will be on the bench next to McGee most of the game).

Antawn Jamison on facing the Pistons and their smaller look: "It shouldn't be a problem at all…we just have to do a better job against dribble penetration." (I will stand around instead of playing defense and make sure the other guys do that).

The third quarter is killing the Wizards. They've been outscored in the third 13 times this season. (ABE has petitioned the NBA to eliminate the 3rd quarter so he can save some money on his electric bill).

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 8, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

How does going super small because the other team went super small (with Aaron Gray) benefit us? This defies all logic to me.

So Songaila's superior footspeed and agility will match up with the fleet of foot Aaron Gray better that McGee or Blatche's? Will someone please explain exactly why this is supposed to be accepted as a rational explanation?

Posted by: original_mark | December 8, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I would respect "Sorry. I plucked up" much more than a lame excuse for some poor substitutions.

Posted by: original_mark | December 8, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: prescrunk | December 8, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

It's not a rational explanation because, as you state it, it's nonsense. Aaron Gray is slow-footed lumberer with no athleticism. What he does have is a big, strong body that he can use to batter people. Guys like that tend to give skinny bigs like Blatch and McGee problems down low, so he went with Songaila, who's stronger and better able to hold defensive position in the post.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 8, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

OK then this leads to my next question...

Is Aaron Gray a low post threat to us? Did we really need to change our lineup to match up with a guy who's averaging 14 minutes and 4 points per game?

I'll take the battering and the 6-8 points that he might score on AB and JM. In the meantime, those two could have easily walked by him for layups and been factors on the defensive end. Seems to me like we're throwing out the baby with the bath water. (I've never used that one before but it seems to fit)

Posted by: original_mark | December 8, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

It's not a rational explanation because, as you state it, it's nonsense. Aaron Gray is slow-footed lumberer with no athleticism. What he does have is a big, strong body that he can use to batter people. Guys like that tend to give skinny bigs like Blatch and McGee problems down low, so he went with Songaila, who's stronger and better able to hold defensive position in the post.
Posted by: kalo_rama | December 8, 2008 2:53 PM

Kal,
You keep showing your lack of basketball knowledge,

I am sure Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Position: Center Height: 7-2 Weight: 225 lbs) was glad you or EdTap wasn’t his coach. The two of you would have played him 11 minutes a game. Why doesn’t EdTap play to JaVale McGee (Position: Center Height : 7-0 Weight: 237) strengths and quit worrying about the trying to match up to the other team.

Winning teams make you play to their strengths.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 8, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Is kalo_rama really Ivan Carter? Neither one of them know anything about basketball and they defend the owner like they are on the payroll.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that this team defies all logic anyway. Sitting McGee most of the game agains the Bulls did not make any sense. Why go small because the other team is going small? I don't get this team at all anymore. What the heck is going on. They will be 3-20 by Christmas. This really sucks! As for the Laker game, I would have rather had a tie game and try to win in OT than another loss but that's just me. Oh well.

Posted by: ivyleague | December 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"It shouldn't be a problem at all. We're one of those teams that can go big if we're facing a team that's big and if we're facing a team that's small, we can go small. Chicago, they gave us some problems so we just have to do a better job against dribble penetration."

AJ, I love you, but at 3-15 thats a mouthful.

Go Wiz!

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | December 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Ivan, you said you start looking at 82games.com after 16 games.

If you look at the 5-man units, our coaches play the 4 worst combos the most amount of minutes. They are dreadful - much worse than the other comobs.

EJ said he wasn't much on stats. What does Taps say about these stats?

BTW, the only line-up with CB at the 2 has the highest +/- rating.

Our backcourt isn't competitive. What are the chances of trading the 1st round draft choice and DeS for somebody like Stuckey?

Posted by: Izman | December 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

caron needs to play the 2 so jamison doesn't play power forward anymore, blatche has shown he deserves the minutes at the four, the length with ab at 4 and mcgee at 5 would be ridiculous, make it happen, it is our only way to protect the paint in any form, jamison will still be able to run his offensive game, maybe even more efficiently because when he posts and does the crazy leaners his man will be smaller. There is no doubt that our best lineup regardless of Aaron Gray's imposing matchup is with caron at 2, aj 3, ab4, jm 5 they all need to see thirty minutes how is this hard to understand and execute barring foul trouble? Then pick a guard to start other than deshawn and we're good, also you have to make sure nick gets thirty too. that would still only be about 170 mins out of a total 240, they need to play these minutes, they are certainly our five best players.

Posted by: bford1kb | December 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

More and more Tapscott looks like Eddie Jordan II. Same lineups, same "matchups" trying to match the other team instead of using our strengths. While these two skinny guys (Andray & Javale) may find it difficult to defend heavy slow foots while their athleticism, length and speed will get them buckets.

Put those two in together Tapscott, along with Jamison and Butler.

Posted by: rickgonz | December 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

blatche at 30 mins 14.5 pts, 7.1 r, 1.1 st, 1.1 b
young at 30 14.25 pts, 2.8 r, 2 a
mcgee at 30 12.8 pts, 7.6 r, 2.1 b

This shows that at thirty mins a game both mcgee and blatche would be statistically outpreforming brendan haywood in his career year, and deshawn averages 8.3 pts in 29.3 mins, our squad can improve drastically via playing the right personnel the right amount of time, at the right positions

Posted by: bford1kb | December 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Is kalo_rama really Ivan Carter? Neither one of them know anything about basketball and they defend the owner like they are on the payroll.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 8, 2008 3:18 PM

oh no! kalo_rama has an opposing POV! what kind of sick world do we live in where there are two sides of an argument?!

Posted by: yukiwith2us | December 8, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

ACCORDING TO YOUR ARTICLE IN THE POST YOU STATED THAT MCGEE WAS IN THE 'DOGHOUSE'. THAT WAS MISLEADING AND AN INSULT TO EVERYONE INVOLVED. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EXPLANATION?

Posted by: kcandlc | December 8, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I think they need to play Etan Thomas more to create some trade value there.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | December 8, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Izman wrote:
'Our backcourt isn't competitive. What are the chances of trading the 1st round draft choice and DeS for somebody like Stuckey?'.

God no! I say we keep everyone until the season end then use them as trade bait along with our draft pick. If we are in the top 3, find a way to trade down along with Dsong or Thomas. Of if we can land BJ Mullen then trade Haywood. Does anyone know anything about Ricky Rubio? The guy got offense but I don't know about his defense skills.

Last, I got a gut feeling that Abe Pollin will hand over the Wizards to Ted at the end of the season if not before the season.

DEMJ

Posted by: demonj21 | December 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

bford1kb, You're extrapolating guys' numbers out to 30 minutes but forgot one thing...these guys are playing only limited minutes and they are able to go full out. If they were to play 30, fatigue would play a factor. That's why you can never take someone's production over 12 minutes, quadruple it and assume they'd do the same for a full game.
That said, I doubt JM could outperform BTH over 30 minutes right now. Bearing in mind that I'm a big BTH fan, I think AB could actually put up more numbers because he has more skills.

Our ideal lineup (next year) is probably:

PF- AB with JM subbing
C - BTH with JM subbing
SF - AJ with DM playing 15 behind him
SG - CB with NY subbing
PG - Gil with out lottery pick subbing

This gives us a really solid backup C and PF, really good rim protection and rebounding and lots of scoring at the 1, 2 and 3. It also gives us 3 point threats from the 1,2 and 3. I know it's early to be looking ahead to next year but we have the potential to be awesome if we can manage to not wear AJ and CB out this year and stay healthy.

Whoever we get in the lottery will be gravy. Hopefully it's a top 10 pg to replace AD.

Posted by: original_mark | December 8, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Note to RICKGONZ: DON'T INSULT EDDIE JORDAN BY COMPARING ETAP TO HIM!! Eddie Jordan has forgotten more about coaching in the NBA than ETAP will ever remember if any of you so called NBA fans knew anything about the game you wouldn't continue to diss Jordan but as usual none of you have a clue lets see by the all star break where this team will be record wise i've said it once and i'll say it again all of you will rue the day this man was fired!!!!!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 8, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

dargregmag

i've said it once and i'll say it again all of you will rue the day Eddie Jordan was fired!!!!!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 8, 2008 9:08 PM

Like Eddie was doing such a great job, he did not even make it out of the first round. If ABE wasn't so cheap the team would have a real coach with a proven track record. What was Eddie's track record before becoming the head coach of the Wizards?

Jordan was promoted to head coach on March 20, 1997 during the final fifteen games of the 1996-97 regular season and remained the head coach during the 1997-98 season where he compiled a 33-64 record as the King’s head coach. Jordan was later fired after the 1997-98 season.

His career record was 229-278 a .452 winning percentage?


Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 8, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

So, the T-Wolves forced, errr, volunteered McHale to be the head coach. He relinquished his VP title to concentrate on coaching. I don't know if that situation is better than this situation, but at least they got some good young guys over there.

Dang injuries are absolutely crippling this team. Seems like it's been the 6th straight year where we've had multiple key injuries, dating back to Crackhouse's last year here...

Posted by: -CN- | December 8, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

So Songaila's superior footspeed and agility will match up with the fleet of foot Aaron Gray better that McGee or Blatche's? Will someone please explain exactly why this is supposed to be accepted as a rational explanation?

Posted by: original_mark | December 8, 2008 2:32 PM

Mark. You are right. It is not rational and it should not be accepted as a valid explanation? If I did not know any better I would have thought that remark came from Eddie Jordan himself.

If I did not know any better, I might start to think Ed Tabscott was a "double agent"..... His superior is Ernie G. but his true alliance is with the dethroned former king, Eddie Jordan.

Ooop's. I forgot one fact. Tabscott can not have an alliance with Eddie J. because he is doing the one thing that Eddie J HATED the most.

That is giving AB consistent minutes every game and not yanking him after he made one mistake. My bad, maybe Tabscott is just a rogue agent who has his own agenda to satisfy.......

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 8, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Note to RICKGONZ: DON'T INSULT EDDIE JORDAN BY COMPARING ETAP TO HIM!! Eddie Jordan has forgotten more about coaching in the NBA than ETAP will ever remember if any of you so called NBA fans knew anything about the game you wouldn't continue to diss Jordan but as usual none of you have a clue lets see by the all star break where this team will be record wise i've said it once and i'll say it again all of you will rue the day this man was fired!!!!!!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 8, 2008 9:08 PM

dargregmag - How in the heck is that an insult? You call a spade a spade. When the only excuse Tabscott could come up with for not playing McGee this last game was he wanted to matchup with what the other team had on the court, if that is not Eddie Jordan coaching and thinking I do not know what is....?????

That was another one of Eddie J's problems. He always allowed himself to be dictated to instead of doing the dictating himself by making the other teams adjust to his lineups instead versus the other way around.

For Tabscott to use that stupid excuse reminded me so much of something Eddie Jordan would say is not funny.

So for us "so call fans who don't know anything about the game", we are just calling out the flaws in Eddie J's coaching. Please tell me how that is dissing?

Eddie J needs a "strong" point with above average wing men to make his offense successful (i.e. the New Jersey Nets with Kidd, Jefferson and Martin & the Wiz with Butler, AJ, and Gilbert).

Without a strong point guard to run Eddie J's offense, his sets become disjointed and the whole flow of the primary goal of the offense's purpose and theory goes out of the window.

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 8, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

To continue.......

dargregman - For the last time, losing Gilbert exposed this flaw in Eddie J's coaching. Although they were able to string something together last year, that did not carryover to this year.

Why do you ask? AD (point guard) is not the same AD of last year. He is playing on one leg. Again, that left Dee Brown, Juan Dixon, and/or Stevenson to run the point. What does that translate too, no STRONG point guard; checkmate. That is one of the things that got Eddie J done.

As I have told you before, all Eddie J had to do was play the youngsta's more and not give those valuable learning minutes to Etan, Stevenson, Song. at the "5" spot, and AD (hurt) so much, and he would still be here coaching today.

Nobody would have been calling for his head if he did that. If he was losing, as we still are now without playing the youngstas, everyone including Ernie G. would have understood.

Looks to me like Eddie J got burned out, got tired of dealing with Gilbert, got tired with Abe being a spendthrift, got tired of Ernie G. not providing him with a decent backup point guard, got tired of dealing with the youngstas, got tired of seeing his assistants only get 1 year deals and the list goes on and on.

That Knick game he coached it like he was daring Ernie to fire him. Why would he just quit and walk away from 8 mil combined for this year and next? You have to be fired to collect and get an extended well deserved vacation.... Trust me Eddie J is not hurting at all.

I bet you the next team he coaches, will have a STRONG point guard with a good backup. If not Eddie is not going to take the job. He knows where he is weak...


Posted by: BulletsFever | December 8, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

More and more Tapscott looks like Eddie Jordan II. Same lineups, same "matchups" trying to match the other team instead of using our strengths. While these two skinny guys (Andray & Javale) may find it difficult to defend heavy slow foots while their athleticism, length and speed will get them buckets.

Put those two in together Tapscott, along with Jamison and Butler.

Posted by: rickgonz | December 8, 2008 4:38 PM

Agree 110% rickgonz....

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 8, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Is kalo_rama really Ivan Carter?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 8, 2008 3:18 PM

Yes he is "folks"

Posted by: prescrunk | December 8, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

-Antonio Daniels, who fell hard on his back during the third quarter in Chicago Saturday night and left the game with a bruised tailbone, practiced and is good to go tomorrow night against Detroit.

By Ivan Carter | December 8, 2008; 1:50 PM ET
Previous: MMPG: The FourCast |

I can see AI "licking his chops" at this statement. Anybody remember that Philly game a couple of years ago when AI nearly "broke AD's" ankles twice in the same play on a wicked crossover....????? It was all over youtube......

And just to think AD had "two" good legs then. AD you are a very good player, but for the sake of the team and players like Dee Brown and Juan Dixon who do not have contracts for next year like you do, please shut it down for 10 to 15 games and get your knee healed up correctly.

Can you take one for the team, brother.....???

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 8, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

the extrapolation wasn't too nuts they average 18.4, 18.4 and 24 mins how do more minutes not help them? Its a lot tougher to be reliable when you aren't sure whether you're gonna see 10 or 25 mins. I see mcgee get winded but he sits for 20 minute stretches and that is absurd. I saw him four minutes after he came out on the bench chilling ready to go but he never got his name called for the entire 1st and 2nd halfs. I agree Jordan only lost his job because of his stubbornness, going with the guys he wants, not what anyone else says, which is to be respected, in principle, but totally off-course with the team we needed to field. Blatche played great when he started last year. He and Mcgee logging 60 is our interior presence if we choose to have one.

Posted by: bford1kb | December 9, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately I have had enough of Tapscott already. His rotation is too deep and loaded with re-tread tires. Play the young guys. No more Stevenson, Daniels, Songaila and Thomas. Get a point guard from the D-League.

Posted by: klondike_dave | December 9, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

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