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Breaking It Down

When the Bulls decided to send Larry Hughes to the Knicks for Anthony Roberson, Jerome James and Tim Thomas instead of to D.C. for Etan Thomas and Mike James, I didn't get it. Thomas and James have deals that will expire next season and it could be argued that the Bulls took garbage for Hughes instead.

Then, it came out that the Bulls can pocket $9 million if James, who has played four games in two seasons and is out for this season with an Achilles' injury, has to retire. That money won't count towards the cap or tax but hey, $9 mill is $9 mill right? That pretty much summarizes the day's moves. A bunch of teams were looking to dump money.

According to multiple league and team sources I was in contact with today, the Wizards were active. Ernie Grunfeld would have done the Hughes deal and while I can't say for sure, he may have sent Thomas/Mike James to the Knicks for Jared Jeffries and Malik Rose. Jeffries would've stayed on the books two more seasons but that move would've freed up over $7 million after the season when the Rose contract comes off.

One league source I trust told me that the only real offers the Wizards received were for Butler or Jamison.

"Let's put it this way," the source said. "People saw a team with what, 12 wins? And a team in a tough situation in terms of the tax and they smelled blood in the water. It was an opportunity to get a pretty darn good player without giving up that much. You better believe that folks were drooling over the idea of getting a Caron Butler or Antawn Jamison. For a team like the Cavaliers, it would've meant a chance at a championship."

The one thing Ernie wasn't going to do was give Caron Butler or Antawn Jamison away in a bad deal just to cut costs.

I spoke with Ernie not long ago and asked him a few questions.

How close were you to getting a deal done? (he wouldn't address specific deals)

Ernie: "We were having a number of conversations and usually those conversations go right down to the deadline. There were a couple of things we thought might happen but nothing came to fruition that we thought was going to help us."

I asked Grunfeld about the team's impending luxury tax issue. By not clearing some space today, the Wizards are effectively boxed in. They either have to pay the tax next season, trade the lottery pick in a package with a player like Thomas, James, Songaila or Stevenson or, sign the pick and try to get under before next year's deadline.

That last part is very difficult to do.

Ernie: "Those are issues will be looked at in the off season. We didn't want to give up a good player just for financial reasons."

Me: Are you under a firm mandate to avoid the tax at all costs?

Ernie: "We have flexibility. You want to be responsible but at the same time, we don't want to give up any assets that can help us as a basketball team."

Translation: No, he is not under a firm mandate but owner Abe Pollin, like most owners, does not want to pay the tax. But remember this about Pollin: the man ate over $8 million to fire Eddie Jordan. Agree with that move or not (I didn't and still don't) but an owner worried only about the bottom line wouldn't have done it.

He's also given $100 million deals to Huggy Bear Howard and Gilbert Arenas. He paid a 32-year old Antawn Jamison $50 million and built that arena on his own dime.

My read is that if this team has a choice between keeping top flight pick AND Butler/Jamison or, making a trade purely for financial reasons, he'll go over the tax.

That's just my read. I could be wrong. Another thing to keep in mind: I hear that Pollin, more than many owners, is weathering this financial storm pretty well.

Another thing to keep in mind about that pick is this: Other than Oklahoma's Blake Griffin, the scouts I've spoken with do not see a real instant impact guy. Assuming that Arenas and Brendan Haywood come back, wouldn't it be a good move to package any pick below No. 1 with a bad contract and bring a vet in here who can help?

By Ivan Carter  |  February 19, 2009; 6:52 PM ET
 | Tags: Abe Pollin, Antawn Jamison, Blake Griffin, Brendan Haywood, Caron Butler, Eddie Jordan, Ernie Grunfeld, Etan Thomas, Gilbert Arenas, Mike James  
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Well at least Ernie was active. but he still did not get nothing so i still blame him. sorryyyyyyyyy

Posted by: brandonjamal13 | February 19, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree. All these injuries may be a blessing in disguise. It has shades of when the Admiral went down and then low and behold they acquired Tim Duncan with the 1st pick.

How long has DC been looking for a agile big post player who can score, rebound and defend? The Answer...Forever!

If the Wiz get the 1st pick in the Draft and that a strong possibility you're looking at potentially drafting 6-10 stud Blake Griffin.

Abe will suck it up and eat the luxury tax for a year. After another year you can shed the terrible contracts get under the caps and still have Blake Griffin in the Fold.

If the Wiz are smart they put Gilbert on the shelf and say don't return until next year.

If he's healthy in 09/10...you have a starting 5 of Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Griffin and Haywood.

That's a sick starting 5.

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 19, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Do you meaning trading down or trading the pick away entirely? This team needs good young talent. I'd rather see them dump AB and NY for future 1st rounders, if the Wizards can get a top 3 pick this year.

Posted by: djnnnou | February 19, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

So there are no other immediate impact guys other than Blake Griffin? Wow, that is a first. And you can stop kissing Abe Pollin's butt now. You got the job. Bad organizations start with the owner and work down the line. Look at the Redskins. Now look at the Capitals now that Abe doesn't own them. The Bullets have been bad for almost 30 years and the one constant is the owner. And Gilbert Arenas is done. Great teams follow the lead of the superstar and Jamison, Butler and Arenas could give a rat's ass about playing defense. Arenas is a clown!

Posted by: mschmall625 | February 19, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

No, I can't imagine us taking on another expensive multi-year contract. I think it's more likely we hope for the best with the pick - 4 years at less than 5 million...

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | February 19, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

wouldn't it be a good move to package any pick below No. 1 with a bad contract and bring a vet in here who can help?

By Ivan Carter | February 19, 2009; 6:52 PM ET

It better be a vet with all-star resume or else f&*^ it

Posted by: forbid | February 19, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

A starting 5 of Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Griffin and Haywood leaves us with 3 players who cannot defend (unless you expect a rookie to be able to D-up the power forwards in this league off the bat).

That is pretty sick. It makes me sick to my stomach.

I appreciate that EG put Wiz B-ball back on the map, but if he continues to actually believe that the "core" of this team can compete for an NBA championship, then he needs to be fired and have his head checked because he would be the ONLY person I know of who believes that.

Posted by: p1funk | February 19, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Great report Ivan.

Is there any chance that some contracts will be re-negotiated in the off-season? (e.g. stretch the dollars out over a longer time frame to lower the one season hit; or potential buyouts).

Is that possible?

As far as the pick goes, I could see a case for trading down if they don't get the #1 overall. But if the team has a chance to draft Griffin, it's hard to see them passing it up. With the other picks, maybe you roll the dice and see if you can get value later in the draft.

Posted by: JPRS | February 19, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Abe is not cheap it's just that he is not necessarily wise with whom he spends his money on and who he picks to guide the franchise - Wes Unseld anyone?

I'm also not surprised he is "weathering" the financial crisis bc he is "old money" wealthy. The kind that is probably in very safe assets by now.

Plus, no matter what, I'll always respect him for building the phone booth on his own dime. He did not try the swindle the taxpayers for the money as most franchises do in any sport!

The Hughes deal might have been nice, but otherwise I heard of no scenarios that made sense whatsoever.

Blake Griffin baby...he's a PTP'er!!!

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 19, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Getting rid of Jamison for expiring contracts wasn't merely a cap clearing maneuver. It would have allowed them to sign their number one pick and pursue free agents this summer. Now they've got no room to go after the shooter that they need and teams will know that they can low-ball Ernie for their number one. Not good.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 19, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

to people who keep asking: the NBA is not the NFL, the contracts are guaranteed and you can't rework them.

Great post ivan. My biggest concern was that it was an either/or scenerio with jamison and our first pick. But if Abe is willing to eat the luxury tax for a year then let $20 million in contracts expire after the season in order to keep the big 3 and the pick, my worries about the teams future are at ease.

Posted by: detox04 | February 19, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Just saw Jamison & Butler on the eve. news, nbc, and they both seemed relieved. Antawn said it was a lot of rumors and he didnt expect to go. Caron was like, "I'm not going anywhere. This is the District of Caron - I love it out here", while smiling. Good to see them, and they seemed pleased.

Posted by: washwiz | February 19, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Pollin isn't stupid. If the Wizards are able to land a talent like Griffin, chances are that he will increase tickets and merchandise sales enough to cover the lux tax hit. Everything isn't so black-and-white, where paying more money for payroll means Pollin is losing money. Like any other type of spending, it's all an investment. What he'll put in for a guy like Griffin (which isn't actually THAT much in comparison to a veteran superstar), he'll more than get out in revenue.

Posted by: psps23 | February 19, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

stop this nick young trade talk...if the wiz trade nick young that will be the biggest mistake ever...that boy is sharp and is going to be a stud in the league

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | February 19, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Ivan, good posts, thanks. This blog is always more fun when you post more times a day.

EG really messed this one up, he had first dibs a few months ago to land Larry Hughes and jettison Mike James and Etan, and he didnt take it earlier. I think even today he could have dumped those guys if he offered cash considerations to make up for the kicker in ET's contract.

At this point I'm just hoping that Gilbert comes back 100% plays 10-15 games to get back in shape and feel the nba again and is healthy and ready to go for next year.

Hopefully we can get that #1 pick, and package some of these scrubs out of here for someone good, or snag blake griffin.

Don't really get the clowns talking about getting Nick Young, not too many legit 20+ ppg scorers in this league and hes one of them. He just needs to start and play more minutes.

Posted by: insanity999 | February 19, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

"The one thing Ernie wasn't going to do was give Caron Butler or Antawn Jamison away in a bad deal just to cut costs."

Um, not just to cut costs, but to moving either of them would also be based on the fact that both all star dudes are healthy, but can't seem to get Les BouleS out of the bottom of the NBA.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 19, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

I knew there was more to the story than meets the eyes! Ivan Carter was the one that put out the rumor that Abe will not pay over the Luxury tax, but now he is retracting that rumor once he actually got a real person (Like Grunfield) to tell him that may not be the case. Ivan, get your facts straight before you put out a vicious rumor like that! Even I was starting to believe in the cheapness of Abe, but your current blog contradicts your first blog about Abe. Now I must owe Mr. Pollin an apology between now and the actual draft. I will wait until after the draft to give my permanent apology!

Posted by: JohnWWW | February 19, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

" Ernie: "We have flexibility. You want to be responsible but at the same time, we don't want to give up any assests that can help us as a basketball team."

Translation: No, he is not under a firm mandate but owner Abe Pollin, like most owners, does not want to pay the tax. But, remember this about Pollin: the man ate over $8 million to fire Eddie Jordan. Agree with that move or not (I didn't and still don't) but an owner worried only about the bottom line wouldn't have done it.

He's also given $100 million deals to Huggy Bear Howard and Gilbert Arenas. He paid a 32-year old Antawn Jamison $50 million and built that arena on his own dime.""

#1, EG can't be trusted as far as he can be thrown.

#2, EJ's 8 mil will be written off as a business expense. That 8 mil will come out of the future coach's pocket as for sure, there will be no big name coach coming next season.

#3, paying the tax isn't just the issue...it's a double whammy, as Abe will lose out on the lux tax welfare too, which Abe counts on heavily now with the extreme decrease in attendance and sales from jerseys.

#4, "giving away 100 mil deals" doesn't mean it's a smart move and be reminded that this team has to field a team and spend that kind of money anyway whether it's to Juwan, Gilby, MeTawn, or someone else in order to be at that cap figure.

$5, Abe has probably made his money back on the phone booth as it's hosting an event over 220 day's out of the year. He's a real estate mogul, and saw a good deal when presented as he got huge tax breaks to build the phone booth and recently got $50 mil from DC for upgrades to the lux boxes and jumbotron in return for DC owning the phone booth after he's gone. I'm sure Leonsis was happy about that.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 19, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

"I knew there was more to the story than meets the eyes! Ivan Carter was the one that put out the rumor that Abe will not pay over the Luxury tax, but now he is retracting that rumor once he actually got a real person (Like Grunfield) to tell him that may not be the case. Ivan, get your facts straight before you put out a vicious rumor like that! Even I was starting to believe in the cheapness of Abe, but your current blog contradicts your first blog about Abe. Now I must owe Mr. Pollin an apology between now and the actual draft. I will wait until after the draft to give my permanent apology!

Posted by: JohnWWW | February 19, 2009 10:22 PM "

Please...

Don't get your pom poms out too quick.

Just because he said it, doesn't mean it will happen.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 19, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

The lottery pick will be worth more to another team than to the Wiz, so consider it gone.

Before naming a specific individual to trade along with a lottery pick, the Wiz need to identify what they need to add to upgrade the team next year, and who the candidates are.

In my view, they need another quality combo guard such as Stuckey to play alongside Arenas.

With the NBA rules on matching salaries in a trade, moving a bad contract wouldn't work given Stuckey's low salary and Detroit's needs.

Ivan's concept is right (moving a player and the lottery pick), but the devil is in the details. We shall see. EG can't sit on 15 contracts and a lottery pick.

Posted by: Izman | February 19, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

"wouldn't it be a good move to package any pick below No. 1 with a bad contract and bring a vet in here who can help?"

Maybe, but what will NOT be good is if we are forced to make a bad trade with a high pick just for monetary reasons. Who is going to take on a bad contract in this economic environment just for a solid pick in a weak draft?

Sorry but Ernie should flat out have traded Jamison for cap space if indeed that was an option. He will regret not doing that either this offseason or the next. Im sick of the rationalization that Jamison or Butler are "keepers". Those two are healthy are we are the worst team in the NBA.

Posted by: russcarreiro@yahoo.com | February 19, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

"At this point I'm just hoping that Gilbert comes back 100% plays 10-15 games to get back in shape and feel the nba again and is healthy and ready to go for next year.

Posted by: insanity999 | February 19, 2009 10:09 PM "

Gilby needs to do this because the team needs to evaluate what he can/can't do, before going into the draft.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 19, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember ABE got the land (worth 70 million) for free. Have the DC govt give me some free land and I will build a bar and make money on everyone coming in to get drunk after watching the games next year.

Ernie: "We have flexibility. You want to be responsible but at the same time, we don't want to give up any assests that can help us as a basketball team."

how does that translate to...

Translation: No, he is not under a firm mandate but owner Abe Pollin, like most owners, does not want to pay the tax. But, remember this about Pollin: the man ate over $8 million to fire Eddie Jordan. Agree with that move or not (I didn't and still don't) but an owner worried only about the bottom line wouldn't have done it.

Then you write...

Another thing to keep in mind about that pick is this: other than Oklahoma's Blake Griffin, the scouts I've spoken with do not see a real instant impact guy. Assuming that Arenas and Brendan Haywood come back, wouldn't it be a good move to package any pick below No. 1 with a bad contract and bring a vet in here who can help?

That sounds like if we do not get the number 1 pick they will trade it so they do not go over the cap.

I know a lot of people do not like the fact I call Abe cheap, when he trades the pick next year I want all of you to kiss my a** and if Abe goes over the cap by signing a top pick I will tell everyone I was wrong.

He ate EJ's salary this year but does Ivan write about getting insurance money because Gil did not play this year? A man that has been in this business this long has insurance on his players.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 19, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

"I'm glad we didn't make the move for a couple of reasons. Crit has proven that he's a legit pg and that'll free up some minutes for Gil at the 2 next year depending on matchups. NY also needs time at the position in order to improve. Unless we are planning on moving CB back to the 3, that would create a serious logjam at that position.

Posted by: original_mark | February 19, 2009 3:04 PM "

LOL!

I initially thought you were going to say that you were glad Les BouleS didn't make any trades because you want to seem them in the lottery again next season.

Not a stretch by any means.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 19, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Ernie: "We have flexibility. You want to be responsible but at the same time, we don't want to give up any assests that can help us as a basketball team."

What was Roger Mason? He seems to be helping the Spurs a lot better than Juan and his 978,000 contract?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 20, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

"What was Roger Mason? He seems to be helping the Spurs a lot better than Juan and his 978,000 contract?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 20, 2009 12:13 AM "

Those extra bankfunds made available after Gilby took less went to Dee Brown. I don't think EG even made an effort to resign Roger.

Look how great that acquisition worked out.

BTW, I think Juan produces when he's on the court. He just doesn't get any PT and obviously isn't in the near term or long term plans for Les BouleS.

Seems more and more that his signing was just to placate the fan base.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 20, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Grunfeld got the Wiz in this luxury penalty by overpaying Arenas on the assumption that the cap would go up this year - oops. Arenas was also very selfish in not reducing his demands to a reasonable level given his injury status. Grunfeld also screwed up ROYALLY in permitting the trade kicker to be inserted in Crouton Thomas' contract - horribly overpaid guy to begin with, plus he gets a trade kicker? Insanity. Lastly, I don't understand the Eddie Jordan firing in light of the cap and that this is a rebuilding year. Instead of taking a hit on firing EJ, save your money to pay the cap hit.

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | February 20, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

By the way, Wiz need to end the year with the worst record so they win the Blake Griffin sweepstakes. I don't want to see see Griffin end up in OK City - lottery is a very suspect process.

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | February 20, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Btw, The Poets trade kicker was not added in by Ernie, the Bucks did it to screw over the Wizards, and Ernie matched.

Ernie has done some good things like bring over Butler for Kwame, but he's done a lot of boneheaded crap too.

The most recent one being not getting read of Dr. Seuss and Mike James when he had the opportunity a few weeks ago for Larry Hughes, even if he was hurt.

Come on, the Bulls were willing to take Etan (who I'm sorry is a good guy but sucks for his contract) and Mike James who isn't great and give up Hughes for it!!

Does anyone remember when Arenas, Antawn and Hughes played how potent we we were??? And now we could have added him AND Caron?? Come on that was just boneheaded on Ernie to not snap him up a few weeks ago when he had a chance.

Imagine having the luxury of having Larry Hughes, and Nick Young at the 2 guard spot and opening a spot for another big man while getting rid of 2 crappy contracts/players. Woulda been perfect but of course we screwed it up again.

Posted by: insanity999 | February 20, 2009 12:59 AM | Report abuse

I agree with IC there isn't a franchise type player in this draft (twice now the Wiz have had a high pick without a bonafide beast to snag). Trade the pick with Etan or James bad contract to some team a piece or two away and look formidable next season. Just a thought, if Phoenix is still bent on ridding payroll, wouldn't Stoudemire for the #1 plus an expiring contract plus say, Blatche, not be a terrible offer to pry him away? Hell if they demanded I'd throw Jamison in it, too so long as we could come up with a long term deal to keep him locked up. That immediately make the Wiz contenders.

Posted by: mjsciann1 | February 20, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Ivan/Michael, could you please do a piece on what happened to DeShawn this year? I know he's 'injured' now, but he was so unbelievably horrible that it is mind blowing, probably the worst player in the NBA: 31FG%, 53%FT. Unless there is more to the story, he should never step foot on an NBA hardwood ever again. Please tell me he is looking to go over to Europe to play.

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | February 20, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Insanity, you're correct re the Bucks poison pill in Crouton's contract. Ernie gobbled up that poison pill. That provision may as well have been a no trade clause.

In my opinion, Larry Hughes really was not the answer to anything because of his extra large contract and because we have two potential studs, Nick Young and Crit, who we need to try to develop.

Let's just stink it up for what's left of the season, and hope to get the first ping pong.

Also, I don't have a clue re trade deals discussed, but I'm wondering whether Jamison for Amare was ever discussed as a foundation for a deal. Doesn't sound like Ivan knows much about the deals that Ernie considered.

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | February 20, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Is Rubio going to play immediately in the NBA if he gets drafted, or is he going to wait to come over? If we don't get Griffin, maybe we can draft Rubio and just wait to sign him. That way, his contract won't hit the books until after next year when we have the room.

Keep in mind that a lot of this economic stuff was not necessarily predictable. People knew the economy was in a slump, but it's gotten worse than anyone thought, and no one knew the luxury tax level was going to plummet. That's why you saw so many owners trying to drop salary for next year before the trade deadline. Anyone who is under the limit will get a big windfall from the teams that get stuck way over.

Posted by: VeCente115 | February 20, 2009 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Rubio has a steep buyout clause (6 million euros) to his current contract which runs through 2011. Interesting idea to use the pick and keep him in Spain until it runs out. Of course if he blows his knee out, or his girlfriend decides that she'd rather live in Madrid or Barcelona than Washington (what happened to Orlando's first round pick, Fran Vazquez, a few years's back), then we'd be screwed.

The Wiz will regret not moving AJ along for salary relief. Sure, it would have been a steal for the Cavs this year, but three years down the line when they would have had to swallow 14-15 million a year for an aging, soft PF, things would look very different.

Posted by: mugsybol | February 20, 2009 3:16 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I feel that the trades that didn't happen this year were a vast improvement over the trades that didn't happen last year. Congratulations, Wiz front office!

Makes you wonder how they'll manage to top this next trade season....

Posted by: Samson151 | February 20, 2009 5:29 AM | Report abuse

A starting 5 of Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Griffin and Haywood leaves us with 3 players who cannot defend

I counted 4. Which player besides BTH can defend? Surely you don't mean Caron!!!

Posted by: original_mark | February 20, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't criticize EG for not making a panic move. I agree based on what I've seen so far that Griffin is the only franchise guy out there. If we don't get him, why not package the pick and get a GOOD vet? (..and no, an old Dan Roundfield, old Gus Williams, old Moses, old Otis Thorpe, old Richmond are not good vets).

I'm talking about a big guy in his 20's without a lot of mileage....

I think a lot of folks are forgetting about the progress this team has made this year in terms of experience. It doesn't show in the win/loss column but comparing Jm and Crit and NY now with how they were at the start of the season you can see that they've gotten marginally better.

A healthy team AS IS next year is a 45-50 win team. We didn't need to make a move. Even without a top pick, we should be pretty good next year depending on who the coach is. That's our most important decision. Who we draft is irrelevant if our coach sux.

Posted by: original_mark | February 20, 2009 8:01 AM | Report abuse

"Ivan/Michael, could you please do a piece on what happened to DeShawn this year? I know he's 'injured' now, but he was so unbelievably horrible that it is mind blowing, probably the worst player in the NBA: 31FG%, 53%FT. Unless there is more to the story, he should never step foot on an NBA hardwood ever again. Please tell me he is looking to go over to Europe to play.

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | February 20, 2009 1:14 AM"

MeShawn is injured now, but he was bad last season too....especially during the playoffs where he couldn't back up his smack talk.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 20, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

It would be absolutely catastrophic for this team to trade away the pick. I couldn't care less what Butler or the Vets want or need, they have shown that they can't get it done head to head w/Cleveland repeatedly when healthy, and now they've shown they can't get it done w/injuries when they aren't healthy. The team as constructed around Butler, Arenas and Jamison (and the suddenly discovered Wood last year) is at best a playoff also-ran. This team and its fanbase are more than familiar w/first round playoff exits, just as it is with outright miserable failure.

The future isn't in building around a broken down Arenas, or Wood and and his soon to be expiring contract. The Future is McGee, Young, Blatche, McGuire, Crittenton, the draft pick, and whatever vet(s) want(s) to stick around and help. If the team sells its top draft pick yet again for a vet who doesnt play D or is a cancer as its done in the past, the fan base should rightly throw its hands up in the air and give up until the FO has a clue.

Posted by: graywolfe81 | February 20, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

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