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You Tell Us: Who Should the Wizards Trade For?

Okay, everyone's been kicking around trade ideas, and it's that time of year, so we might as well gather our best thoughts in one place.

There are a couple ways to approach this. Instead of making it a two-day thing, let's just declare up front whether this is a trade that you consider realistic (something the other team would do, matches salaries) or not-so-realistic (Wiz get Carlos Boozer for Etan Thomas & a pick, sounds like fun!).

The other thing you should lay out in your suggestions is what the Wizards are aiming to accomplish, not just with individual deals, but in the scope of an overall plan. Does your deal aim to make the Wizards a contender when they get healthy next season, are you jettisoning veterans to build for a few years from now, or are you clearing salary for the summer of 2010?

Beyond the potential big swaps, I'd like to see some creative small-potatoes trades. The kind that are both realistic and fill a need for this roster when everyone's healthy. You know, maybe a long-range shooter or post defender, even if it's not a name guy. Then again, I don't have anything great in mind myself, so who am I to dictate?

Have at it.

By Keith McMillan  |  February 11, 2009; 8:53 AM ET
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NY and the lottery pick for Rodney Stuckey.

The Wiz need to upgrade the backcourt even with Arenas' return. Also, they need to separate NY and AB.

This approach would require a commitment to developing and relying upon AB and JM (next year as solid bench players and as starters after that).

Posted by: Izman | February 11, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

NY and the lottery pick for Rodney Stuckey.

No way Detroit goes for that.

Posted by: keithward64 | February 11, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Everyone seems to be more willing to give up our Lottery Pick than I. If its #1 & can get Griffin I don't see how you cannot keep the pick, luxury tax be damned. Even the #2 pick, Monroe seems too good to just trade away.

Posted by: djnumb | February 11, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Here are some not-so-realistic trade proposals…..

Washington trades CHEAP ABE and Ernie Grunfeld for any of the following for

Boston Wyc Grousbeck and Danny Ainge

Cleveland Dan Gilbert and Danny Ferry

Dallas Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson

Denver Stan Kroenke and Mark Warkentien

Detroit William Davidson and Joe Dumars

Lakers Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak

Miami Mickey Arison and Randy Pfund

Portland Paul Allen and Kevin Pritchard

San Antonio Peter Holt and R.C. Buford

You said we could dream……

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 11, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I ran this through the NBA Trade Machine and it worked. It is pretty ambitious, but hey so is trading the most explosive big man in the league when he's 26.
Wiz get: Amare and Richardson (and possibly a player to be named like Grant Hill).
Suns get: James, Juan, Caron, Jamison & Etan.

The suns let Juan & James go and cut $7m, and then Etan after 2010, cutting another $7m. The wiz let Grant Hill go after this season, and have plenty of money now to sign the #1 pick.
Then the Wiz come into next season with Haywood, Amare, McGuire, Richardson & Gil, with Griffin (a guy can dream), Blatche, Nick Young, Crittenton & Pesh off the bench.

The Suns get 2 All-stars in return who make less money, and would match up nicely with Steve Nash.

Posted by: dcorwin | February 11, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Amare for Jameson + Young or Blatche + a protected 1st rounder (we keep if top 5 this year, and/or top 10 next year)...

Posted by: ThatGuy2 | February 11, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Probably can't happen, but maybe we make a run at Amare Stoudemire. Phoenix wants to clear salary (and we don't have much in the way of that), but if they don't get a better offer, maybe we do something like:

Caron Butler
Mike James (if and when he becomes tradeable), if not Nick Young
Etan Thomas

for

Amare Stoudemire
Leandro Barbosa

Thomas, Young (and possibly James) have the benefit of coming off the cap in 2 years, as opposed to 3 for Phoenix, plus Phoenix would get Butler, who is a very good player and might fit in with Nash, Shaq, and Hill.

For Washington, it is tough to rebuild completely around the chance at Blake Griffin or James Harden after we doled out huge contracts to Arenas and Jamison. Both are untradeable, so we might as well try to improve the team as much as possible for next year, when Gilbert comes back (assuming he does). For Stoudemire, he would have the paint to roam on his own in a major media market, and he'll get all the shots he wants.

Stoudemire has some questions about him (microfracture surgery, reputation, etc.) but it seems like a risk worth taking, given the big contracts we already have.

If it helped Phoenix, I would even throw in our #1 this year, no lottery protection.

Is this a realistic scenario? Maybe not, since it would probably put us in luxury tax land, but one can dream.

Posted by: clarencelee | February 11, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

The last thing the Wizards need is Greg Monroe. We already have two big man projects in Blatche and McGee. Monroe is still a few years, and could use at least another year of college.

The only guy in the draft that is ready to come in and make an immediate impact is Blake Griffin. If we do get the #1 pick there has to be some discussion of whether or not to take Griffin. The other option is package the #1 overall pick with a veteran like Jamison, to bring in an Amare or Bosh.

Posted by: dominic10464 | February 11, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Amare, Jared Dudley, and Matt Barnes for Caron & Jamison

Wiz gets the superstar low post presence to pair up with Agent Zero plus whomever they draft with the high draft pick next year. Plus if the situation doesn't panout they can let Amare's leave and use the cap room to make a run at one of the super bigs in the 2010 free agent class.

Phoenix gets to make a serious title run with two all star forwards that will fit much better with Nash, Shaq, Richardson with Grant Hill and Barbosa coming off the bench.

Posted by: CurseoftheLesBoulez | February 11, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

@dcorwin - all the trade machine does is make sure the salaries match as that is the first requirement. It doesnt actually evaluate the trade as fair or not... but i like your ambition

Posted by: ThatGuy2 | February 11, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

These trades for Amare are ludicrous.

The Wiz are not going to trade away Caron Butler. Butler might be the value in the league if you compare his production to his salary.

Please explain to me what team is going to want to take on Mike James or Etan Thomas's contract for next season? Etan is on the IR right now, you think some team really wants him?

Posted by: dominic10464 | February 11, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I know it's a long shot but how about this trade.

Nick Young 1.6mm
Blatche 2.7mm
Haywood 5.5mm
Crittenton 1.4mm

for
David Lee 1.7mm
Al Harrington 9.2mm

The salaries are pretty close and I would love to have those two guys on our team next year and would trade anyone on our team but Butler, Arenas, and McGee to get them.

Posted by: soremSec401 | February 11, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

People it's not the players, this team has had a lot of different players since 1978 and it's not the GM who knows how many CHEAP ABE has gone through in the years. We need a NEW OWNER in order for the Wizards to ever win a championship.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 11, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

question - can a team trade injured players? that rules out BWood, Thomas, Blatche, Stevenson, etc.

@Keith - Too bad the guys we got playing are all bums - not sure who would want any of them in a 'minor' deal since none of them specialize in anything. Dixon or McGee maybe?

Posted by: ThatGuy2 | February 11, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Re: Amare trades.

I'm not saying it's possible, I raise it because no one in the national media has even raised the Wizards as a player for him. And he's a very good player, who would fit in well with Washington (all offensive, no D) and at least would try to score from the interior, something that no Wizard really does well.

Why would Phoenix want James or Thomas? They wouldn't, not as players, but James has a $6.2 million contract expiring after this year and Thomas has a $6.8 million contract expiring after next year. Next season, it will "Etan Thomas' expiring contract" that will a fairly sought after commodity, obviously not for the player, but because of the cap relief he can bring. Both James and Thomas expire 2 and 1 year earlier, respectively, than either Stoudemire or Barbosa, so if Phoenix wants cap relief, it is a possibility.

Butler is a good player and good value; but because Arenas and Jamison are untradeable, we'd have to give up something good to get something back. Stoudemire is younger and bigger. Think of it as the reverse Webber/Richmond deal. Plus, to a certain extent, I think Arenas/Butler/Jamison all score from the perimeter, and having Stoudemire would make us more versatile offensively.

I think of the "rumored" deals out there, Butler would be the best player Phoenix could get back. All the other deals involve getting cap space immediately.

Posted by: clarencelee | February 11, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Stop with all the trade talk its not going to improve the team it'll only add to the lack of continuity that presently exist, and that New York trade proposal; yeah Donnie Walsh makes that move and the fans will run his old azz outta the big apple and by the way does Nick Young ever guard anybody?

Posted by: dargregmag | February 11, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Guys to trade:
D-Steve
Thomas
Songaila
McGuire
Dixon
James
Pecherov

Guys to consider:
Jamison
Blatche

Guys to keep:
NY
Arenas
Haywood
McGee
Crittenton
Butler

Posted by: emmet1 | February 11, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Antawn Jamison & Caron Butler for Alex Ovechkin & Alex Semin.

Posted by: cj658 | February 11, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

The Abe bashing is not helping the situation. Abe is not the problem, and paying the luxury tax is not the answer (See Dallas Mavericks). If we had signed Roger Mason and went over the cap do you think we would be on the way to the playoffs? I don't think so.

No one wants to be in luxury tax land in this economy. Aldridge had a good league analysis on this yesterday. http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/02/09/aldridge/ We are going to need a way to find out how to win with what we have and that will start with clearing the coach, coaching staff and trainers. Trade values of players on this team are at an all-time low. No one is going to take the junk on this roster.

Posted by: lameotron | February 11, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Although I have seriously heard that the Wizards will bring LH back. I think for Mike James and Etan. The Bulls want to dump the contract. I could see it happening. We all know he is Gil’s “boy”, and the 111 million dollar man seems to call a lot of the shots around here (“I’m not coming back unless they resign Antawn”).

Posted by: cj658 | February 11, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

WHy waste time talking about trades???
We have a solid team when they are healthy. Everyone knows that playing a little "D" will make the Wizzies a contender next year.
If someone can figger how to defend the pick & roll and defend the 3 point line---- look out.
I expect that whoever is coach next year will be coach of the year.


Posted by: VBFan | February 11, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I would send Stevenson, Blatche, Young, Pecherov and Thomas to New Orleans for Tyson Chandler.

What do you mean the trade machine won't allow this?!

Posted by: Kev29 | February 11, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Trading a very high draft pick almost never works out for the team that trades the pick, so that's not a good option. The Wizards are going to need some luck to vault themselves into Championship contention, and the best route for that luck is a high pick.

Trades:
- Etan and Mike James for Larry Hughes. All contracts expire at the same time, and the salaries work. Hughes is better than either Etan or James, fits the current system, and Chicago wants Hughes out and smaller contracts that will be easier to include in deals.

Songalia for Scalabrini and Sam Cassell's expiring contract (or whatever other expiring small contract(s) Boston wants to throw in to make the numbers work). This is just a salary clearing move by the Wizards, and gives the Celtics a veteran bench player.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | February 11, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

No No No to Amare. This is the kind of trade that has us where we are right now. Amare is expendable to the Suns because he plays NO DEFENSE. They've even started highlighting this and mocking him on Sportscenter. he gives us the same thing AJ does. We don't a younger AJ with a history of knee problems.

Why is everyone so infatuated with this guy?

Posted by: original_mark | February 11, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

don't need, I meant

Posted by: original_mark | February 11, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Gawd.....this post opened up the box of unreal absurdities.

We DO NOT want Amare Stoudamire.

He defense is CRAP and he's a lazy rebounder.

Posted by: truthaboutit | February 11, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse


I think the Wizards should wait until the off-season to make any moves. Let the team fall so they can get the number 1 pick. If they do make a trade, there goal should be to have free cap space for the 2010 free agency.

Perhaps moving Jamison to a contender, maybe Jamison to Spurs for Finely plus another person(depending on Jamison's contract size) would be a nice move. It will free up space for the Wizards and give Jamison a shot at winning a ring. Also move Stevenson and Blatche to Kings for Brad Miller and someone(again contract structure).

But a trade I would approve of is Ed Tapscott for Eddie Jordan or Ed Tapscott for Avery Johnson

Posted by: rcnasa | February 11, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

NY and the lottery pick for Rodney Stuckey.

No way Detroit goes for that.

Posted by: keithward64 | February 11, 2009 9:21 AM


LOL. No way the Wiz go for that either! Did i miss the memo saying Rodney Stuckey was great? If you wanna swap Nick for him, that's cool. But a pick too? Too much

Posted by: CBell29 | February 11, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

disgruntled fan: "Trading a very high draft pick almost never works out for the team that trades the pick, so that's not a good option."

It worked out for the Clippers when they traded a draft pick to the Bulls for Elton Brand. The Wiz could have had Brand for the pick that became Kwame Brown.

Posted by: rodeoclown | February 11, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I have always had the belief that a trade for Chris Bosh would be perfect. Toronto knows they're gonna lose him in 2010, so why not get what you can for him now. Blatche, Etan, our pick for Bosh and whatever else to make the numbers match would work for both teams. One thing to keep in mind, 95% of the GM's in the league aren't giving away talent for pennies on the dollar. Last year's Gasol deal was the exception. Even Mchale got Al Jefferson (20, 10 guy) for KG. So trades would have to work for BOTH sides to pull the trigger

Posted by: CBell29 | February 11, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

cbell29: "Even Mchale got Al Jefferson (20, 10 guy) for KG."

That actually was a pretty good trade -- at least until Jefferson got hurt the other night. He's looking like one of the better young post guys. Could play PF too. His game is dependent on somebody getting him the ball in position, but if that happens, he's very hard to stop.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 11, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Can't imagine we're going to get a player to put us in contention. If the Amare to Portland deal falls apart, I'd try Butler and Songaila for Lafraentz and Outlaw. Outlaw gives us a decent replacement for Butler to make us competitive next year (hopefully), and the deal gives us substantial cap in 2010. So, best case scenario, we're competitive next year with the pick and the returns from injuries, and a decent FA puts us over the top in 2010-2011. Worst case scenario we still stink but have a decent opportunity to rebuild the summer of 2010.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | February 11, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Let's see, start by trading:

ET - $6.86m - 2yrs
AB - $2.84m - 4yrs
NY - $1.6m - 2yrs
JD - $.79m - 1yr

to Detroit for:

Rip - $10.8m - 5yrs.

This gives us a legit starting SG. Detroit takes it cuz Rip has lost his starting spot to Stuckey anyway, plus they get prospects in Blatche and NY, and get salary relief for Etan and Juan when they plan to make a splash in the 2010 free agent class. Next trade:

AJ - $9.9m - 4 yrs
MJames - $6.24m - 1yr
1st round pick - non lottery protected

for

Amare - $15.07m - 3yr
2nd round pick

Wiz get Amare, a true stud at PF. Suns get another scoring big man and around $5 in cap relief. Also get extremely high pick to select cheap young stud.

So next season will look like:

PG: Arenas - Critt - cheap FA
SG: Hamilton - Stevenson - 2nd rounder
SF: Butler - McGuire
PF: Stoudemire - Songailia - Pech
C: Haywood - McGee - 2nd rounder

Posted by: City11 | February 11, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Bosh makes the most sense here in Washington and I will continue to say it.

I also agree that you should go after him after the season, when Ernie knows what pick he is going to have in the draft.

You need three players in the NBA and Arenas, Butler, and Bosh are three guys who can take you deep in the playoffs.

Two guys I would not move are Arenas and Butler. Aside from that every option, every player should be on the table.

If you had Arenas, Butler, and Bosh you have a contender. You then would need to pick the pieces to put around them, and find your Perkins, Rondo, and Posey. A deep run in the playoffs is within reach with those three on the floor.

Posted by: dominic10464 | February 11, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Since my last post leaves the team looking old and weak on the bench, we could always settle for the much easier route of:

Trade:
MJames - $6.24m - 1yrs
Blatche - $2.74m - 4yrs
DS - $3.6m - 2 yrs
Top-5 protected 1st rounder

for

JRichardson - $12.2m - 3 yrs

Gives us legit starting SG, Phoenix gets contracts to expire in-time for 2010 free agent bonanza and protected 1st rounder and prospect in Blatche.

PG - Arenas - Critt
SG - JRich - NY
SF - Butler - McGuire
PF - Jamison - Griffin (pray on that one)
C - Haywood, McGee

Posted by: City11 | February 11, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

As I have posted here before, I think there are realistic possibilities in trading our high pick (especially if number 1) and E. Thomas to another bad team for their pick and a solid veteran. That way we get a promising high pick, a veteran and rid ourselves of Thomas and his contract. Two players I like are Biedrins from G.S.(a bit of a reach) and Collison from OKC. Someone commented on the Collison move that they would expect more in return but I'm not sure that jumping from, say, the 3 pick to the 1 pick would yield a lot more, although it would be nice to make OKC pay dearly for the marketing potential Griffin would have there.

Posted by: mugsybol | February 11, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

JRichardson - $12.2m - 3 yrs

Gives us legit starting SG

Posted by: City11 | February 11, 2009 11:20 AM

LMAO!!!! Really? I'd keep Caron at the 2 before I pull a trigger on JRich. I like any trade that gets rid of MeShawn though.

Posted by: CBell29 | February 11, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Rockets send:

SG Tracy McGrady

Wizards send:

PF Antawn Jamison
PF Darius Songaila
SG Tracy McGrady

Why?: It's one huge salary dump. Wizards get a $23 million dollar 2010 expiring contract. Along with Etan Thomas & Mike James expirings in 2010, Wizards re-position themselves for the future by creating cap flexibility. This also creates additional playing time for Blatche & McGee. If McGrady has anything left in the tank, he could potentially be a formidable 3rd option behind Gil & Caron next year.

Posted by: Dat2U | February 11, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Oops, I meant to send DeShawn Stevenson to the Rockets in the trade above. So its Jamison, Songaila & Stevenson for McGrady.

My bad!

Posted by: Dat2U | February 11, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure that jumping from, say, the 3 pick to the 1 pick would yield a lot more, although it would be nice to make OKC pay dearly for the marketing potential Griffin would have there.

Posted by: mugsybol | February 11, 2009 11:27 AM


I agree with you mugs. Except I would swap out Collison for Wilcox. Collison is more polished but Wilcox gives us an explosive pf that "finishes" at the rim. Unlike someone who likes to finger roll everything.

Posted by: CBell29 | February 11, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I agree with CBell about trying to get Bosh. I don't think Toronto will be looking to trade him during the season, but if we had one of the top 3 picks in the draft this summer, we could send that along with one of two different types of trades. We could give them expiring contracts and a young player or two. Or, probably more beneficial to them, an expiring contract and either butler or jamison.

Having cap room in 2010 shouldn't be that big of a goal for Toronto without Bosh. No big time free agent is going to sign there over the other teams with cap room. And their point guard is already 27 or 28 I think. that have a solid young center. getting a borderline all-star with 2-3 years left on his contract still, along with a top 3 pick who will also be on the team for a few years, and a second pick that is probably up there too could be good for the franchise.

Posted by: segastyle | February 11, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Suns send:

PF Chris Bosh

Wizards send:

1st round pick - '09 draft (Top pick protected)
PF Andray Blatche
SG Nick Young
C Etan Thomas
PG Mike James

Why?: Toronto gets a high lottery pick. Most likely a top 5 pick which is only protected if the Wizards win the lottery. They also get two nice young prospects at need positions. Wiz keep their core and add an elite big man.

Posted by: Dat2U | February 11, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

My absolute dream trade. Would never happen though. This would only make sense to the Thunder if the Wizards win the lottery.

Thunder trade:

SF Kevin Durant
PG Earl Watson

Wizards trade:

1st round pick - 09 draft (rights to Blake Griffin)
SF Caron Butler
SG Nick Young

Why?: For Thunder, this would be the type of offer that would make an "unavailable" player "available". They get an all-star, a young prospect at a need position & a home-grown stud who's the #1 pick the draft in Griffin. They'd keep their own lottery pick as well.

For the Wiz, we bring home Durant and finally have a legit franchise player to build around.

Posted by: Dat2U | February 11, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Chicago sends: Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden

Washington sends: Etan Thomas and Antawn Jamison

We each jettison an unwanted body (Thomas for Hughes) and give them AJ for Gooden's expiring contract.

Posted by: MrOliver | February 11, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I don't think I'd give up as much for Amare.

Suns trade:

PF Amare Stoudemire

Wizards trade:

PF Antawn Jamison
PF Andray Blatche
PG Mike James
2010 1st rounder (unprotected)

Why?: Amare comes with some risks thus his value isn't as high as say a Chris Bosh. Microfracture surgery, questionable attitude & porous defender are all marks against him. Here, suns get an immediate replacement that would fit well with Shaq in the lineup and help chemistry issues. Blatche gives them a young prospect and athleticism at the 4/5.

Posted by: Dat2U | February 11, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Simple trade here to dump a contract.

Celtics trade:

PF Brian Scalabrine
PG Sam Cassell

Wizards trade:

PF Darius Songaila

Why?: Celtics get a veteran big to replace the fragile Big Baby in the lineup. Wiz dump Songaila's contract which goes to 2011 and get an expiring in return. This deal could help them stay under the luxury tax threshold this offseason.

Posted by: Dat2U | February 11, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"This would only make sense to the Thunder if the Wizards win the lottery."

Trading Durant for anything the Wiz have to offer would not makes sense to the Thunder (or anyone else) under any circumstance.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 11, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The question should be: Who should the Wizards get rid of?
Deshawn Stevenson-seriously, why keep him?
Brendan Haywood-a 7 footer who loves fade away shots; weak/soft hands; Javale is here
Antawn Jamison-defenseless

Posted by: iamdawalrus | February 11, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

We might be lucky that raymond felton is falling out of favor in charlotte. i think he would be perfect at point next to gil. felton for james and whatever else to make it work....

Posted by: skrao1 | February 11, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

SEE!!! This is why I hate Trade blog's you get the most ridiculous,assinine, and downright goofy suggestions why would we want Larry Hughes back? he's injury prone, a streak shooter,and being paid a ton and if you're the front office you don't even consider that trade but with our GM you never know,I had suggested the Durant trade a month ago when it was apparrent we were headed for the ping pong ball championship but with one caveat instead of Butler we trade Jamison and the #1 pick if we get it, for Kevin but with the emrgence of Durant that might be an after thought,that would be the only trade i even consider making.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 11, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's trade Ed Tapscott for Kalaroma

Posted by: cj658 | February 11, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"I had suggested the Durant trade a month ago when it was apparrent we were headed for the ping pong ball championship"

Having the most ping pong balls doesn't guarantee the #1 pick. in the last 18 years, only 3 teams that have finished with the worst overall record have actually gotten the #1 overall pick.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 11, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's trade "Agent Zero" and be done with this "FIASCO".

Arenas is a money-pit/ego-maniacal/self-absorbed drama queen. He's leading this team down a foxhole that it will never return from.

You heard it here first.

Posted by: FbAller | February 11, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Jamison and Blatche for Yao Ming.No seriously I like the trade on Bulletsforever Thomas and James for Hughes

Posted by: jeremydvid | February 11, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Looking over the proposed trades from the standpoint of an imaginary GM of these other teams -- I haven't seen one I'd make yet.

We'd have to count on a partner who was really almost desperate to get rid of somebody -- and then we'd have to ask ourselves, why do we want this guy?

You read complaints from various GMs about the difficulty of making trades in the modern structure. Most say if you can stand it, take your lumps and trust the draft process. Or hope somebody gets the Memphis virus and sends Pau Gasol your way for, basically, his little brother. Or Caron Butler for Kwame Brown, still an all-time steal.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 11, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I doubt the Wiz will make any trades at all. No one on the roster should be untouchable if you can improve your team by trading them. That should be the measuring stick. I love Butler, but if we can improve our roster by trading then we should. Kareem and Wilt were both traded, so no one should be untouchable.

I think we could get something decent for Jamison and Butler with the right trading partner. The Wiz need a beast at the 4 spot (like Jason Maxiell) and a starting caliber 2 guard (like Rip Hamilton) to be more competitive.

Posted by: cbyrd5717 | February 11, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Ivan,

Please dont do this again. The # of ridiculous posts is too much to take in.

Posted by: DMoney28 | February 11, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Wiz give the No. 1 pick and Haywood, NY, and ET for Amare. Would love to see a front line with Amare and a maturing JeVale McGee working with Butler, Jamison and Arenas. That team could be very good. The reason I say trade the No. 1 pick is because Abe Pollin will finagle a way to make sure that the Wiz's pick is the 5th overall pick instead of the 1st overall anyway. Abe never wants a high pick because he has to pay him "high pick" money. So they might as well trade the pick and try to get Amare.

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | February 11, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I honestly don't think Amare would make that much of an impact here. He's a great player but Jamison will give you about the same production. I would love to see Chris Bosch come to DC. A young player who has an all around game. We need someone like that because everyone else on the Wiz is One Dimensional. Trade Jamison Haywood and Stevenson to get Bosch if thats what it takes. We would be Eastern Conference contenders with a healthy Gilbert, Caron, NY, Bosch, McGee and Blatche coming off the bench. Oh yeah and we need a coach too.

Posted by: tywill28 | February 11, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Rockets send:
SG Tracy McGrady

Wizards send:
PF Antawn Jamison
PF Darius Songaila
SG DeShawn Stevenson

This caught my eye. I had to check the salaries to make sure, but it works. Houston has Battier and Artest so they just might rather overpay for Jamison than overpay for aging, injury-prone McGrady.

Next year Wiz look something like:
Arenas, Crittendon, James
McGrady, Young, FA
Butler, McGuire
Griffin, Blatche, Pesh
Haywood, McGee

I really think winning the draft and getting Griffin is counterproductive if we still have Jamison on the roster since both are PF's.

Posted by: uptownjive | February 11, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Bosh makes the most sense here in Washington and I will continue to say it.

I also agree that you should go after him after the season, when Ernie knows what pick he is going to have in the draft.

You need three players in the NBA and Arenas, Butler, and Bosh are three guys who can take you deep in the playoffs.

Two guys I would not move are Arenas and Butler. Aside from that every option, every player should be on the table.

If you had Arenas, Butler, and Bosh you have a contender. You then would need to pick the pieces to put around them, and find your Perkins, Rondo, and Posey. A deep run in the playoffs is within reach with those three on the floor.

Posted by: dominic10464 | February 11, 2009 11:19 AM

Chicago sends: Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden

Washington sends: Etan Thomas and Antawn Jamison

We each jettison an unwanted body (Thomas for Hughes) and give them AJ for Gooden's expiring contract.
Posted by: MrOliver | February 11, 2009 11:58 AM

Jamison and Blatche for Yao Ming.No seriously I like the trade on Bulletsforever Thomas and James for Hughes

Posted by: jeremydvid | February 11, 2009 1:18 PM

I like all of the above trades, sorry but the rest just don't make a lot of sense.

I would not trade Caron Butler under no circumstance (Great Player, Great contract).

We have to keep Gil (As no one will take him since his salary isn't expiring anytime soon and he has not shown what type of product he will be)

I will keep all Drafted players (Blatche, Young, Pesh, Haywood, McGuire, Dixon, McGhee.

With this said here is my trade scenario.

If you keep all players we have drafted and Caron and Gil. All we need is a True PF. BOSH! = Championship. To get him, we can use Jamison and other players not the pick. Since the salary for rookies are set the cost to use a high 1st round pick would be minimal 3.5 mil max.

Here is your line up:

Bosh
Butler
Haywood
Young
Gil

1st round Pick Scorer to Replace Gil (Possibly trade down whatever needs to be done to get Stephen Curry)
Blatche
McGuire
Pech
Dixon
McGhee
Fill the rest of the roster with Proven Defensive players.

Defense will return when Brendan Returns along with Bosh, McGhee, McGuire.

Posted by: 15600_sknfan | February 11, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Don't have time to see how to make it work, but like someone mentioned above, get David Lee. You don't even have to run a play for him. Definitely the type of PF we need to move Jamison to the bench.

Posted by: mdaggie98 | February 11, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

i do like the chris bosh scenario.. but toronto is going to want our first round draft pick along with antawn jamison, we can even throw in a deshawn stevenson and we will be good.

Dude who said trade nick young and a first round pick for rodney stuckey are you insane? nick young is going to be a superstar in the NBA. its only a matter of time. Next season he is due for a breakout season barring any injuries. But yea this year if you can get rid of etan thomas and mike james for a larry hughes go ahead and do so. but i feel along with the bosh move, id go for amare stoudemire.

trade Jamison, along with stevenson and the lottery pick, and you get Amare stoudemire
think of how the line-up would be:

Haywood (8ppg, 9 rpg)
Stoudemire/Bosh (22ppg 9 rpg)
Butler(17 ppg, 4 assists)
Young( 16ppg)
Arenas(17 ppg 7 assists)

6th man= blatche/hughes
7th man= Mcgee/crittenton
8th man= Mcguire

the rest of the bench can just take notes. then we hire Mark Jackson as the head coach and watch us go to the eastern conference finals...stampd

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | February 11, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

This might seem really outlandish and people might do a double take,

BUT HOW ABOUT GETTING A HEAD COACH!!!

Posted by: vwilli1 | February 11, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Jamison and Thomas for Brand?

Posted by: larryn703 | February 11, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget we have the much sought after Vladimir Veremeenko chip to use in a deal!

Posted by: larryn703 | February 11, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Jamison and Thomas

for

Wally World and JJ Hickson

Wally is the one of the biggest expiring out there . . . this would clear about $12m putting them just under the cap.

It's a salary dump and would infuriate the rest of the league . . . give LBJ another weapon and a reason to stay in Cleveland.

Another potential salary dump would be

Jamison and Thomas

for

Raef's expiring and Martell Webster.

Doesn't trim as much salary and saddles the Wiz with Webster's contract for 4 years. Upside is over $10m in cap relief and insurance pays 80% of Raef's deal.

Posted by: traderkirk | February 11, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Guys to trade:
D-Steve
Thomas
Songaila
McGuire
Dixon
James
Pecherov

Guys to consider:
Jamison
Blatche

Guys to keep:
NY
Arenas
Haywood
McGee
Crittenton
Butler

Posted by: emmet1 | February 11, 2009 10:13 AM

i agree with emmet1

Posted by: jahbless420 | February 11, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Simple trade here to dump a contract.

Celtics trade:

PF Brian Scalabrine
PG Sam Cassell

Wizards trade:

PF Darius Songaila

Why?: Celtics get a veteran big to replace the fragile Big Baby in the lineup. Wiz dump Songaila's contract which goes to 2011 and get an expiring in return. This deal could help them stay under the luxury tax threshold this offseason.

Posted by: Dat2U | February 11, 2009 12:07 PM

a small trade like this could help unclog ur pf spot... save us from the TAX ... give us air to breath .... im with this dat2u

Posted by: jahbless420 | February 11, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The warehouse that services our store is in the Cleveland area. Our delivery truck driver told me back in Dec. that the Jamison/Wally S. trade rumor was being floated around Cleveland sports talk radio. I think they had Stevenson going along in the deal instead of Thomas. I don't know why Cleveland would want Stevenson, unless they want to boo him every night.

So that one could be in the realm of the possible. But only if the Wiz are in the blow it up and rebuild mode.

IF the Wiz end up with the first pick. And as Kal has pointed out, even with the worst record that's no sure thing. Blake Griffin is going to have some value to several teams.

If Toronto is unable to sign Bosh longterm this summer my quess is that they start considering moving him. Griffin would be attractive to them since they have a young core and they could control him for 4 years under his rookie deal.

I wouldn't trade the future for Bosh, in three years Griffin could well be as good or better. Bosh can be a world beater, and he can be foul prone and sleep through games. He's a guy that' always puzzled me a little, some on here have called Arenas a Diva. Bosh could another.

With the Number one pick the Wiz could trade down take Thabeet and get some other valuable peices. I like the idea Collison for Thomas being attached to that deal. I'd also think OKC would part with one of their later firsts as well.

Rip Hamilton's name came up here as well. He's a guy that would fill a need. If the Wizards got Griffin or a Thabeet package in the draft a Jamison for Hamilton deal could make some sense.

The Wiz will be looking for opportunties to move their expiring contracts and add value as well. But Thomas and Jame are going to be worth more at next year's trade deadline then this year's. Ernie's still biding his time and waiting for their value to increase.

Posted by: flohrtv | February 11, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I plugged this into the trade machine over at espn.....

Wizards get:
Larry Hughes
Cedric Simmons (expiring contract)

Bulls get:
Etan Thomas
Deshawn Stevenson
Andray Blatche

The money works both ways and you get the expiring contract of Simmons

Posted by: myeldell | February 12, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I like the scenarios noted that bring Larry Hughes back. The Hughes and Gooden for Antawn and ET is the most intriguing.

Hughes played his best ball here and would give the team better and more consistent production at the 2. I would hate to see Antawn go, but Gooden would give the team a more physical presence at the 4 and have a more complimentary lineup when the injured players come back.

Posted by: dcbballfan | February 12, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

A few points:
1. 90% of these trade proposals are absolutely ludicrous.
2. Inform yourselves beyond the trade machine people. Eg, Mike James' isn't an expiring contract. He holds a player option for over 6 million which basically GUARANTEES it is really 2 years left.
3. For the purposes of this trade deadline, I like the smaller deals proposed involving dumping Songaila (useless to a bad team like ours, useful for the Celts), re-acquiring Hughes (who played his best ball here and wouldn't affect cap numbers really (might even be a very attractive trade chip a year from now).
4. IF the Raptors don't resign him, and IF we get a top 5 pick, then I could see us moving that pick, something out of the NY/AB/Mcgee trio, and Jamison for Bosh, and them REALISTICALLY agreeing to it. Assuming basic health for Agent Zero, that really does give us the makings of a championship core.

Thoughts?

Posted by: dericozw | February 13, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I also really like the idea of bringing back Hughes. He wants out of Chicago, he's still tight with alot of guys on this team, I have always liked his game and we need to upgrade at SG.

Other guys I'd consider dealing for are Michael Redd and Vince Carter. Grunfeld drafted Redd, and a deal sending Caron home to Wisconsin to pair up Arenas and Redd in our backcourt could be worth discussing. VC is interesting too because he plays in the same system and is tight with Antawn.

In general guys I'd consider dealable in moves for Hughes or VC would be Stevenson, Songaila, Etan, James, and Pecherov. Our '09 2nd rounder, 2010 1st rounder, and rights to Veremeenko are additional assets that could be included.

Maybe something like Stevenson, Etan and Pecherov for Hughes and Cedric Simmons.


We also need to upgrade PF, we need a rebounder. In this draft I'd hold the pick at least until we find out what it is. If it's the #1 and we can get Griffin we have to keep it. What I have seen of him, he is very impressive. He has nice overall skills, is fairly polished offensively, and would give us the rebounder we need.


Some potential lineups...


Haywood
Jamison
Butler
Hughes
Arenas


Haywood
Griffin
Jamison
Redd
Arenas


Blatche and Young off the bench.

Posted by: Darnell1 | February 14, 2009 2:51 AM | Report abuse

I would not make any trade until after the season to see where we place in the draft. If we could get Griffin at #1, he could be a cornerstone for years to come. ( maybe another Karl Malone ) Another thought would be if we had the #1, I would look at trading the #1 to Okla.City for their lottery pick ( if I could get Hasheem Thabeet ) and Russell Westbrook. or maybe their other two #1's.

Posted by: bailey5 | February 14, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I would not trade for Stoudemire. He is near his peak, so there has to be a reason, Phoenix wants to give up on him.

Posted by: bailey5 | February 14, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Rip is another guy I'd be interested in. Would be intriguing to bring him back here, especially if Flip Saunders is our next coach. When the D colapses on Gil, Rip would be a good guy to kick it out to for the open J.

Posted by: Darnell1 | February 14, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

We get Amare, Barbosa, Gorgan Dragic, and Amundson while giving away Gilbert, Jamison, NY, and Blache. This price may be too steep for the wizards, but i don't see NY and Barbosa fitting on the same team.

If we end up with pick #1, we wouldn't have a need for Blake Griffin anymore so we could trade down a few spots, or trade the pick for an established point guard. OR, we could go with Thabeet or Monroe and one of those with Amare would be dominent. If we trade down, we get a guy like Teague, Curry, Jrue Holliday (great defender), or Ricky Rubio.

We could then go with a lineup like this:
Rubio
Barbosa
Butler
Amare
Haywood

Bench:
McGee
Crittenton
Stevenson
Dixon
and a solid big man FA signing.

Posted by: rfosterms | February 15, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Butler + Jamison is WAY OVERPAYING for Amare

Jamison + Blatche + Stevenson + 2010 1st (unprotected)

FOR
Amare Stoudemire
Alando Tucker

Butler is not being traded. EG is not that stupid. Butler and Arenas should be built around with the young talent the wiz have.

Jamison and bad contracts should be looked to be dealt.

Posted by: mikejc80 | February 15, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Jamison for Rip Hamilton

Cross fingers and hope for Blake Griffin.

Cross other fingers and pray Gilbert comes back as well as D-Wade has.

2010:
Gil-PG
Rip-SG
Caron-SF
Griffin-PF
Haywood/McGee C

Posted by: stevek_ffx | February 17, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

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