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Butler Update

Caron Butler underwent an MRI exam on his hamstring today that revealed no new information. He is with the team as it opens a four-game trip at Utah tomorrow night and is officially listed as day-to-day.

Butler said he's been bothered by tightness in the hamstring for several weeks and fluid has built up in the area, causing him problems. He's not sure when he's going to play again and really, given how this season has gone, what's the rush?


By Ivan Carter  |  March 16, 2009; 3:24 PM ET
 
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Coach continues to wear on our best trade commodity in the lotto-ball sweeps.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 16, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I admire the guy for earning the nickname Tuff Juice, but it's time to call it a season. There's really no point in him wearing himself out on a 16 win team.

I'm not a tanking advocate, as I think you always have to play to win. But I'm also a realist in knowing that nothing is gained out of our valuable players gutting through injuries at this point.

Posted by: pondaz | March 16, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

ETaps would play him 42 mins a night if he came back this season

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 16, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

lol...the Wiz could win the remainder of the games and Tap would still get killed in here on a regular basis...past the point of ridiculous.

Ummm...McGee's mins dwindled bc of major foul trouble in the second half along with his usual dose of blown assignments. I believe he got his 5th foul at the end of the 3rd or beginning of the 4th.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 16, 2009 12:23 PM

No point is never to far to pass when you are talking about Tapscott. He is a hypocrite and plays favorites way too much for my liking. There is no place in professional coaching for his type of coaching, period. He coaches just like a high school coach. I never thought I would see somebody worse at in game substitutions then Eddie Jordan until Tapscott came along. Again, what was the point of firing Eddie J. then....?????

As for the McGee thing, thanks for letting me know it was a foul trouble issue. I don't look at the games in the 1st and 3rd quarters much anymore because I know the lineups are always the ones that ended the game last night, except AB is on the bench and CB is in.

Tapscott has all by himself pretty much made me stop watching all of the games or even pieces of them anymore. I wanted Martin to hit that shot so bad I can not even describe it.

Not because of ping pong balls for the lottery, but just to stick it to Tapscott. He played that lineup way to long in the 4th quarter and almost burned them out. Losing would have served him right.......

Posted by: BulletsFever | March 16, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Is it really true that THE patrick Ewing may want to coach, as in head coach the Wizards?

Ivan, I suspect that you can't get into details about this story because at this point it's purely speculation, correct?

I don't know if it'll work, but how cool would it be to have Ewing coaching this team?

I bet he'd coach defense, defense, defense!

And rebounding.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 16, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Is it really true that THE patrick Ewing may want to coach, as in head coach the Wizards?

Kalo-rama?? Also, I need help filling out my bracket. As I am undoubtedly sure that your bracket is 100% correct, I would love some insight.

Posted by: cj658 | March 16, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if it'll work, but how cool would it be to have Ewing coaching this team?

I bet he'd coach defense, defense, defense!

And rebounding.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 16, 2009 4:10 PM

I'm not sure if it would be cool, or not. How many great players have gone on to become great, or even good, head coaches? Very few that I can recall, in any sport. I think that I would rather have a proven commodity, like a Flip Saunders.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 16, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Agreed rbpalmer. The Wizards don't need a coach who's learning on the job. They need someone who can come in with a set agenda and get things rolling from day one.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 16, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Ivan, can you please find out if this Caron injury is from "heavy use," and if so, ask pointed questions about the wisdom of running Caron into the ground during a lost season?

Congrats on the CSN gig.

Posted by: TheFunBunch | March 16, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Ummm...McGee's mins dwindled bc of major foul trouble in the second half along with his usual dose of blown assignments. I believe he got his 5th foul at the end of the 3rd or beginning of the 4th.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 16, 2009 12:23 PM

rphilli721, McGeee does foul a lot which is attributable to a number of factors other than blown assignments. First, the perimeter defense on this tean is orrible (no one other than Critt and sometines DMAC can stay in front of their man. Second, the defensive schene is plain ineffective (part of the reason for the 16-50 record and the fact this squad with Jamison, Butler and Arenas will never win anything significant). They might win 50 games next year but as currently constructed they are a second round tean at best. Third as a rookie he is going to get fouls called on him that a veteran might escape but not vice-versa. (The young center from SAC fouled out last night I believe).

Using fouls as a metric for a player quality of play is ridiculous. There is no good defender (other than the NBA star who gets preferential calls) that can play good defense with out fouling sometimes. A center on this inept squad if he defends the rim will have to foul. You know why Arenas, Butler and Jamison have never fouled out in the last three years is because they don't attempt to play hard nose defense.

Posted by: NewManagement | March 16, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

McGee doesn't attempt to play hard nosed defense either. A lot of his fouls are reach ins committed after his man has already gotten past or around him.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 16, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

McGee doesn't attempt to play hard nosed defense either. A lot of his fouls are reach ins committed after his man has already gotten past or around him.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 16, 2009 5:38 PM

I agree in pricipal but having him hedge every possesion on on pick and rolls 25 feet from the basket is not sound defensively. That far out, a lot of teams either have the guards go under the screen or fight through the screen. This scheme simply does not require strong on the ball defense. It gives your weaker defenders an out. The reason Jamsion and Butler in particular can play 42 minutes is because of the limited defensive intensity (and energy exerted).

Either way McGees defecienies are in no way related to the overall poor on ball defense by the rest of the squad or the poor rotations. Given the Wizards record and McGee's very limited palying time, the defensive scheme clearly does not work irrespective of who is on the floor.
I have a big problem with the double standard and going forward if the culture on this squad does not change, you still have a second round playoff team at best.

I truly hope that maturity and coaching will improve McGee's defensive ability next year. Whatever the assessment is of Tapscot's performance, it is obvious that he can't get any more out of McGee and Young. The kid just turned 21 and has tremendous upside, I see drastic improvement under next years coach.

Posted by: NewManagement | March 16, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

BulletsFever, you are so right on. You take the words right out of my mouth (keyboard). He is the worst excuse for a basketball coach that I ever seen beyond the biddy basketball level. Every time I see him screaming at one of those young guys I want to go down there and wring his neck. He should be the Director of Player Regression (for some other team). Every year I feel badly that the season has ended...this year I can't wait for it to end so that we get rid of this guy. Ernie should go with him just for being such a bad judge of coaching talent.

Posted by: getabigboyoffense | March 16, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Now if AJ could get a twinge in one of his body parts maybe we'd get to see what the bench can give us next year.

It's good that we have someone with player development experience coaching.
Anyone know where I can get a tongue extractor? Mine's stuck in my cheek.

Posted by: VBFan | March 16, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

McGee averages 2 fouls per 15 minutes, so fouling out is a non-issue.

Most of McGee's fouls are putting big people on the line for 2 instead of getting a close-in shot. 90% of McGee's fouls are good.

As an aside, Blatche has cut down on his silly reach-in fouls.

Songaila averages 2.6 fouls per 19 minutes.

Posted by: Izman | March 16, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

izman: "McGee averages 2 fouls per 15 minutes, so fouling out is a non-issue.
Most of McGee's fouls are putting big people on the line for 2 instead of getting a close-in shot. 90% of McGee's fouls are good."

Hmmm... that's not my impression of McGee's fouls, most of which look to me like problems of anticipation -- he's caught out of position and has to grab to prevent an easy shot. Plus doesn't Tapscott pull McGee after mistakes (what folks here complain about) while leaving Songaila out there on the floor (the other thing folks complain about).

Posted by: Samson151 | March 17, 2009 1:23 AM | Report abuse

NewManagement, I wish you were coaching this team. Seriously, common sense seems to be lacking on the Wiz bench and we could use some in a bad way.

Another thing... I hope this whole 'tuff juice' crap finally goes away. As I've stated for the past few seasons, he sure gets hurt a lot for a guy that's supposed to be so tough. It's not like he's down in the paint scrapping. He's strictly a JUMP SHOOTER !!! Yet he still manages to get hurt every single year. Sure, he plays a lot of minutes but he plays very little defense and doesn't take the ball to the hole.

Rather than 'tuff juice', how about Minute Maid or something a little gentler? I'm not questioning his heart or his ability to shoot but it seems a bit silly to keep talking about a guy's toughness when he's hurt every single year. This is his 7th year in the league and he's only made it to 70 or more games 3 times. He's averaging 36 minutes per game for his career so it's not like he's been beaten down or overused every year.

Good player, yes. Tuff? No way.

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Now if AJ could get a twinge in one of his body parts


LOL. That twinge is long overdue. I gotta give it to him for fighting this year. He's earned every penny of that new contract for this year at least.

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

I knew it was only mater of time before Tapscott and EG played Caron into the ground. Dude has probably been playing on that hammy when he should have had limited minutes or not played at all. Don't be surprised if AJ is next. I still can't believe that EG would subject his players to this madness called Tapscott.

Posted by: ivyleague | March 17, 2009 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Another thing... I hope this whole 'tuff juice' crap finally goes away. As I've stated for the past few seasons, he sure gets hurt a lot for a guy that's supposed to be so tough. It's not like he's down in the paint scrapping. He's strictly a JUMP SHOOTER !!!

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 7:20 AM

Let's not rail on Caron here. Tap plays him at the 2 guard spot because he wants him to chuck it more and now he's not down in the mix like he used to be. And who can blame him, this team is so bad why go in there and get hurt. We have known him to be great and I think we should take it easy on him due to poor coaching. I'm not taking it easy on any of the coaches on the bench or the GM for that matter. After a season like this, some responsibility needs to be taken and there has to be a real good reason for why any of these guys should be around next year.

Posted by: lameotron | March 17, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I agree, NewManagement that with CB, AJ and GA starting, we won't ever be good defensively. However, I give GA a very slight pass here. If you look at the best pg's in the league, none of them is a defensive stalwart. It's almost impossible to stop today's pg's because they are so quick. Rondo is good, Billups is ok and Wade (if he's playing the point) is decent but there's no Gary Payton out there these days. Nash won a couple of MVP awards playing NO defense. CP3 isn't stopping anyone, either. At his best, GA contributes to this team as much as those guys did to theirs (I know this is a cause of debate on this blog). 28 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists (2006-2007 version of Gil) is no joke.

Defense in today's game is played inside out for the most part. Teams try to funnel shooters into the teeth of the defense where their big men step up and challenge. When they do that, rotations should allow their back to be covered. We are poor at stepping up as well as rotating.

Caron seems to be really lazy about stepping out to challenge shooters. He closes out halfheartedly like he's afraid someone will drive by him if he runs out there. AJ simply doesn't have the muscle and even against guys he can handle, doesn't particularly always try as hard as he could except when rebounding. On a team that's starved for points, he conserves energy for the offensive end. (At least that's my best guess).

The big three are all good players but the 3 together can't get it done. You gotta have at least 3 guys playing defense because most teams have at least 3 guys that can score on the court at all times. In the absence of changing personnel, a sound defensive scheme or philosophy might help. We don't have that, either.

I doubt whether a team of Rodman, Payton, Hakeem, Bowen and MJ could have stopped anyone with the geniuses on this coaching staff. It all starts with the coach and we don't have one. ...just a suit with a title.

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Butler said he's been bothered by tightness in the hamstring for several weeks and fluid has built up in the area, causing him problems.

Well, I've been bothered by poor play and effort and high concession prices. We're both bothered. Now what?

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

OK, lameotron. You're right in that I'm being perhaps too hard on Caron. He's one of the bright spots on this team. I just resent the young players always taking the brunt while he gets a pass. If Tap won't call him out, someone needs to. This team lacks leadership and he should be doing that. I don't see it.

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Now if AJ could get a twinge in one of his body parts


LOL. That twinge is long overdue. I gotta give it to him for fighting this year. He's earned every penny of that new contract for this year at least.

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 7:23 AM

Original Mark I have to agree with you. AJ played through a real tough hand injury when he did not have too. I do see his passion for the game, and I can totally respect it. However, it is time AJ has to realize he has to look at the big picture for the team.

With all of the minutes he, CB, James and Songalia are playing, they are taking away valuable minutes from AB, JM, Critt and NY. AJ is going to have to go to Tapscott and "tell" him to reduce his minutes, because we all know Tapscott is not going to do it on his own. Look at the Stevenson situation, Stevenson had to go to Tapscott to bench himself! Go Figure...?? "Coaching For Dummies At It's Best", huh????

AJ if you are reading this, none of the fans will look at you as you are quitting on team. We already know what you are about, now it is time for you to help cats like NY, McGee, Critt, and AB learn about who they are about. Only you can do it (being player coach), because your AAU coach does not know how to much less have a clue.

I did not mention DMac because it looks like he already "has it". As for OPEC, good dude but he is not a NBA ball player. Ernie normally does not "miss" on talent, but I don't know what the heck he saw in OPEC? Maybe a change in teams might help him out......

Posted by: BulletsFever | March 17, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I had to stop beating the Pech drum a while back. I am still not convinced he can't be useful but the team apparently has. If Pech can't get minutes on the worst team in franchise history, we may as well just keep him in a suit and not even issue warmups and a uniform to him.

Posted by: original_mark | March 17, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

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