Flip Looks Like a Good Fit


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I got word that Flip Saunders had signed his deal with the Wizards around the same time that the Detroit Pistons were about to tip off with the Cleveland Cavaliers last night.

I flipped off my television to start writing and when I flipped it back on, the Pistons were already getting hammered by thunderous LeBron James dunks (it's really a coincidence that I used the word, "flipped"). The Cavaliers were beating the Pistons so badly that I was wondering if the NBA could install of mercy rule and just let Cleveland advance to the second round without playing the next two games. The Pistons reserves made a run to make it (a little) interesting late, but that defeat -- and Detroit's season-long collapse -- also sent home the message that Saunders is a pretty good coach.

Yes, the failed Allen Iverson Experiment gets the bulk of the blame for the Pistons' fall from the No. 2 seed in the East last season to No. 8 this season. But if you look at Saunders' career, the teams he coaches generally struggle the moment he leaves.

The Pistons went 39-43 this season and failed to win 50 games for the first time since 2000-01. Minnesota hasn't made the playoffs since Saunders' former close friend Kevin McHale fired him in 2005 and the team has just 33, 32, 22 and 24 wins the past four seasons. He clearly has an ability to hold things together.

I know a lot of people here wanted Avery Johnson, but as former Wizards Coach Eddie Jordan mentioned on Washington Post Live yesterday, Saunders' personality should mesh well with the personalities on the Wizards. You really have to take into consideration the proper fit. And, Saunders appears to be the better fit with his extensive offensive playbook and underrated defensive schemes.

Of course, that will all be determined once the team starts playing, but Saunders has a truly remarkable track record with seven 50-win seasons and four trips to the conference finals. He has yet to finish the deal and take his team to a championship, but he came close in 2004 before Sam Cassell suffered a hip injury in the Western Conference Finals. He lost to Shaq, Kobe and Phil that season and got fired a year later when the team failed to meet expectations.

Yes, Saunders was unable to win a championship in Detroit, but it's not like he wrecked the Ferrari. In three seasons, the Pistons reached the conference finals and lost to Shaq, D-Wade and Pat Riley, then got overwhelmed by LeBron James, and finally, succumbed to the Big Three of KG, The Truth and Jesus Shuttlesworth. The Pistons had home court advantage against Miami and Cleveland and should've knocked off an inferior Cavaliers team in 2007. But Joe Dumars realized that the team wasn't good enough to win another championship and started rebuilding on the fly this season.

I spoke with an Eastern Conference executive recently who told me that it's difficult to negatively judge a coach based on what happens in Detroit. The Pistons made it to six consecutive Eastern Conference finals with three different guys manning the bench. They fired former coach of the year Rick Carlisle, cut ties with Hall of Famer Larry Brown after he took them to back-to-back trips to the NBA Finals, then canned Saunders. That's a pretty well-respected trio, and this season may have proven that the Pistons can be a difficult, strong-minded crew to manage.

Does Saunders have flaws? Of course. Some Wizards fans were upset with Eddie Jordan for failing to lead his team past Cleveland in the first round the previous three seasons. Well, it took Saunders seven trips to get Minnesota out of the first round. He couldn't make the proper adjustments in playoff series against Miami and Cleveland (I know LeBron James is great, but I'm still amazed that the Pistons allowed him to score 25 straight points in that critical Game 5 in 2007). He lost Latrell Sprewell and Sam Cassell in his final season in Minnesota, and he eventually lost the Wallaces (Ben and Rasheed) in Detroit. He's also not the type to confront players and generally likes to avoid conflict.

But for a franchise that has zero 50-win seasons and won just two playoff series in the past 30 years, it will gladly accept some of Saunders' "failures."

By Michael Lee |  April 22, 2009; 9:45 AM ET
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well I hope it works????

Posted by: donaldtaylor | April 22, 2009 10:12 AM

Great piece, thanks for giving both sides of the story when this could have easily been a puff piece.
My question: if he is non-confrontational, then what causes him to lose these players? Do the players lose confidence in him?

Posted by: emmet1 | April 22, 2009 10:13 AM

Does anybody know if the press conferences are open to the public? I work just a few blocks from VC and would love to go check it out and maybe snap some pictures if I could, I'm just not sure how these things work.

Posted by: pondaz | April 22, 2009 10:22 AM

This is a win-win situation for Flip. He received a huge pay plus the Wizard can't have a poorer season that the one that they just have (knock on wood!). If he can manage to get them to the playoffs next season then his hiring will be seen as a success.

Posted by: Dave381 | April 22, 2009 10:24 AM

I was a big Eddie Jordan fan, but looking back, a few of his decisions were puzzling... the Etan/Haywood thing is downright laughable in hindsight, he never seemed to be able to nail down a tight rotation, he refused to foul Ben Wallace when Lebron was eating us up in the playoffs, etc.

I'm hopeful that Flip will bring out many of the same positives with smooth offense and good sets out of timeouts, while using his experience to clean up some of those problems. I think this is the right hire.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 22, 2009 10:33 AM

with abe getting up in years, it would be nice to get this thing turned around and make his remaining basketball years fun again...good guy who has done a lot for this city.

Posted by: outrbnksm | April 22, 2009 10:38 AM

I agree with your comments about Saunders, and let me also say that I like what you are doing on the blog. The responses seem to be more insightful and less petty and childish, and that has something to do with you, thanks!

As far as Flip as a coach, your points are very valid. He has won everywhere he has been. Teams have regressed after he leaves. He has one of the highest winning %s of any coach in history. And, considering Phil, Greg, Pat, and Doc are the only coaches out there with rings (Rudy T, I guess but it sounds like he's busy as well), Flip is the best choice. And several people have used the example of the Suns, and there are many others, where a new coach and new personnel have been brought in to change the makeup of a successful team. Why tear it apart and start over when you are close? The demise of the Suns and the Pistons should be clear examples. We may not be to a championship, but I believe Flip can get the offense to perform up to its potential (which it did not this year, injuries or not), and we don't need to have a defense as good as the Pistons or Spurs. With our personnel, that's probably impossible, but if it improves, we will be a very good team. Championship-caliber, maybe not, able to win the East if we get hot and the Cavs, Celts, or Magic are off, absolutely! Did the Cavs go to the finals a few years ago after a close series in the 1st round with us?

Folks we're not the Celts or the Lakers. We don't have their tradition of championships. We got 1! Let's try, as EG has said, to consistently make the playoffs, peak at the right time, stay healthy, and play smart. Add some good draft picks and other personnel moves, and we'll be OK. Compared to this dismal season, don't the playoffs, even with a 1st or 2nd round exit, look good right now?

Ron

Posted by: faninAlex | April 22, 2009 10:43 AM

Good analysis. Thanks, Michael.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | April 22, 2009 10:54 AM

Really like the blog and the even handed comments on Flip Saunders - keep up the good work Mike. As far as personalities are concerned, I had severe reservations about whether Avery Johnson would have blended well with Arenas. This is a club who's strength is on offense, not that it can't improve greatly on defense.

I liked Eddie Jordan, but it was clear he and Ernie weren't on the same page. I think most of the failures of this year's team lie at the feet of the front office and the poorly constructed roster who was depending on a chronically injured former All-Star to come back at peak form. I doubt Flip would have won more than 25 games with the team's injuries.

An improvement of getting back to the playoffs and possible advancing to the 2nd round would be a huge improvement. It's not like this team has gone anywhere except in 2005 when it made it to the 2nd round.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 22, 2009 11:01 AM

I think when Ben was upset in Detroit, if my memory serves me correctly was because his minutes was decreased and he was not really a part of the Offense.

Whereas before Flip arrived Ben excelled at rebounding and blocks because he was allowed to run the middle and because of the Tempo he was apart of the Offense.

Flips style was not conducive to Wallace's play and also a faster Tempo also contributed better to Rasheed's play.

The controlling Offensive Play that is Flips forte can inhibit spontaneous play in which Ben and Rasheed excelled.

That same delima will have to be addressed for this Wizards Team. Spontaneity and UpTemPo can be an extreme asset for this group of players.

Even though Flip is known for Offense, it is a controlling Offense, not meant for Shake and Bake Uptempo. He cannot discount incorporating that Shake and Bake UpTempo into his style for these Players.

I believe he can do it. However, if he chooses not to, it would be a mistake, because: The more controlling you are in your play, The harder you have to play Defense in order to beat your opponent.

You do not want your Defense to be Hard, you want it to easy and play it Hard.

The more prolific your Offense is and this Team tends towards a UpTemPo Game, the easier it will be to institute and play Defense well.

So how far will Flip adjust his proven style to the players in order to maximize their abilities.

My guess is he will adjust his style some as all great coaches have done and do.

Great coaches are in charge and have there style, don't get me wrong, but the reasons they are great is because they recognize the players abilities on the court and fit their schemes to the players to maximize their successes and chances of winning.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 22, 2009 11:04 AM

LarryInClintonMD

In the previous thread, I agree with you this time. I don't on Tyler Hansborough though. Anyway, in my opinion, the Show-time Lakers were not a great defensive team, they had great offence. James Worthy was like Antawn, a 3/4 tweener. Kareem was old and not great defensively. Magic was great, but not on defense. He couldn't keep small point guards from penetrating similarly like Gilbert can't. John Thompson built the Hoyas on defense early on because he couldn't recruit the great offensive players at that point. Georgetown made defense fashionable. The problem came when everybody started playing defense and Georgetown had no offense. That's when Georgetown went down. You can get great offensive players to at least compete on the defensive side, but you can't make Bruce Bowen a great offensive player. Also, Rip Hamilton did not go from a suspect defensive player as a Wizard to a decent one with Detroit. He just competes more. People need to stop trying to make the Wizards a great defensive team. The Wizards need to just compete more on defense. I believe they will because next year is the year everything should fall into place, barring injury. The young players will not play as much because the atmosphere will be about playing for a top seed in the east, not a lower playoff seed.

Posted by: G-Man11 | April 22, 2009 11:06 AM

If healthy, the Wizards are shaping up to be a nice 48-50 win team in 2009-2010 that is the #3 or #4 seed in the East and advances and then loses in the second round of the playoffs.

Now, that is a HUGE improvement over what the team has been able to muster since the early 1980's.

But if the team doesn't address defense in its personnel decisions over the summer, that exit in Round 2 is almost a guarantee.

Ideally, this club needs to package the #1 pick and a player or two to secure a defensive rebounder up front at the PF spot and have either Young or Crittenton step up in the backcourt.

Posted by: leopard09 | April 22, 2009 11:06 AM

"C'mon Larry, you're embarrassing yourself.

Name the last team that won a championship ring without playing solid defense?

Also, in regard to your last statement, Les BouleS were good with their offense about 3-4 seasons ago....no defense to speak of though...how far did they go?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 22, 2009 1:37 AM "

DC_Man,

Never said there was a Team that won a championship without good defense. What I said was is that no Teams will be winning any Rings without good Offense first and foremost.

You see thats whats wrong with you Defense Gurus. You want to give Defense the credit when a Team wins it all and not understand the fact that great Offense has always been the Major Player.

The best year that the Wizards had was the same year that Gilbert got his knee rolled up on.

The last year they went to the playoffs, he was still hurt.

There best forte was their Offense, but Eddie Jordan did not realize that, and did not know how to incorporate Defense into his coaching philosophy.

When they were quote, good, they weren't really because Eddie, even though folks think he was a good coach, made egregious coaching decisions, which was why he needed to be rightfully fired.

One egregious mistake he continually made was to forsake the entire effectiveness of Team play for individual play that he thought was better.

Playing Etan Thomas instead of Brendan Haywood gave up any chance of any interior Defense atall. So what Haywood was not the dominant center that he wanted, but, Haywood was and is a legitimate NBA center and the Team played better with him on the floor from day one. Furthermore, Haywood is a Center, not ETAN and DARIUS. We had other centers to backup Haywood.

I know what Defense is and it ain't going nowhere without good Offense first. You find me a coach that does not have great Offensive play, but good Defensive play, he want have any Rings to show for it.

Pat Riley has a few Rings, but he never did it without exceptional Offensive Play. He had a chance in New York, but he gutted the best Offensive play the Garden had seen since the Pearl and Reed.

The Offensive Chemistry of that Team with Mark Jackson at the helm and Ewing down low was majic, but he traded Mark and kept John Starks. If Pat defense Guru Riley had kept Mark Jackson, he might have another Ring.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 22, 2009 11:10 AM

leopard09

Would you rather have Jamison or any of Cleveland's power forwards?

Posted by: G-Man11 | April 22, 2009 11:12 AM

The comments about the 1980's Lakers here are a bit uninformed. The NBA at that time was a different league in the playoffs, fouls were not called as they are today on every reach and grab and the rules allowed for good spacing and an exhibition of passing and shooting rather than hacking.

That said, the Lakers had players during their run that played defense and it was Jerry West's ability as GM to mix those players in with the core of stars that made the team that good.

For those that don't remember Norm Nixon, Mychal Thompson, Kurt Rambis, etc. were pretty good defensive players.

And Michael Cooper was perhaps the decades best one on one defender.

Posted by: leopard09 | April 22, 2009 11:14 AM

I thought about the inevitable happening too....letting the Cavs advance to the 2nd round.

But that would make the big picture easier for Cleveland....and Wizards fans don't exactly want that, do they?

Posted by: truthaboutit | April 22, 2009 11:15 AM

Yeah, yeah, LEE, I've "flipped" off a few in my time also. "Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-hum-ma-mah-mah-mah......the bird's the word"

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 22, 2009 11:29 AM

How many years did Norm Nixon play with Showtime? 1 year. Coop was Bruce Bowen. Thompson was a role player off the bench. Defensively, Haywood is better than Rambis on both ends. Stevenson is the wizards defensive starting defensive 2-guard and he is not the best, but he aint bad either. I hope you don't think Michael Cooper could contain LeBron.

The wiz need to compete on the defensive end. I think Paul Westhead's Denver teams of the 80's was strictly offensive teams that did not compete at all on the defensive end. The lakers were not great defensively. They competed. In the past, the Gilbert didn't even act like he cared for defense, thus he didnt compete on that end. The wizards need to compete.

Posted by: G-Man11 | April 22, 2009 11:38 AM

Flip Saunders = Norv Turner

Posted by: TheBoreaucrat | April 22, 2009 11:43 AM

I really appreciate the quality and quantity of blog posts recently. I finally feel like this is a true Wizards Insider blog.

Posted by: bb64ss | April 22, 2009 11:46 AM

washington has 0 50 win seasons?....that is failure

the culture needs to change, and i think that starts now..

i cant believe the wizards never won 50 games in a season and only won 1 playoff series since 1979...gosh

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | April 22, 2009 11:46 AM

"Flip Saunders = Norv Turner"

Don't know how this comes from. Norv was an assistant coach who did not have any head coach experience when he came to Washington. As a head coach, Norv didn't accomplish as much as Flip either.

Posted by: sagaliba | April 22, 2009 11:59 AM

I think the Detroit Pistons are either all finished or are just simply not interested in this playoff. They just haven't showed up. IF this is their true colors, the team needs to be blown up and rebuilt. Simple as that.

And why does the guy who traded Chauncey away still have a job? I know they like the young guy but trading Billups for AI was a very dumb move. Unless AI has an expiring contract.

Posted by: tundey | April 22, 2009 12:02 PM

Several comments.
Flip Sauders is a good, not great coach. $18 mil is a lot to pay a coach who hasn't even coached in a finals.
Ben Wallace left Detroit because Chicago offerred big money as a FA and Det. knew his best days were over so didn't match a bad offer.
Wizards making the playoff next year a success? Really? they made the playoffs under Jordan when reasonably healthy. I don't know what's gained by making the playoffs again when you're reasonably healthy. Anything less than a conference finals would seem to be a waste of money, again if healthy.
The showtime Lakers were a good defensive team. Of course they were a good offensive team also. That's wny they were one of the all time great teams. It takes both to win multiple championships.

Posted by: jroane | April 22, 2009 12:05 PM

i really like what you've done since taking over michael.

but whoah, hold on there. let's put this avery johnson meme to a rest early. avery johnson would have been a disaster, most people understand that. there were a few vocal proponents but not a lot.

flip's a solid choice. certainly there are flaws but he was head and shoulders above the other public options.


as for pat riley defensive guru. if he had merely played on of his two offensive players in rolando blackman or hubert davis instead of john starks occasionally those knicks would have won.

and yes, if flip doesnt take this team to the second round he's a failure. if he doesnt take them to the conference finals he's a disappointment.

Posted by: PindarPushkin | April 22, 2009 12:19 PM

Mike,

You basically said in your article Saunders is a "failure" as an NBA coach and the Wizards hired him to be one here also, lol!

So what does that tell you for the future of this team?

"Flip Saunders = Norv Turner"

Good comparison, but I think this fits better:

Flip Saunders = Marty Schottenheimer

The Wiz aren't going to be any better until "Old Abe" sells the team to Leonsis. The Wiz did not get any better hiring Flip Saunders as coach and it will show as much next season.

Medocrity still reigns supreme in D.C..

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 22, 2009 12:20 PM

I like Eddie Jordan as a person but I'm glad he's no longer coaching the Wizards. It was so frustrating to watch one of our guards guarding Yao or Dirk. I believe I've actually seen Arenas guarding on of them. I hated the small ball! I'm looking forward to a new coach with a better game plan.

Posted by: cdouglas2 | April 22, 2009 12:26 PM

trading Billups for AI was a very dumb move. Unless AI has an expiring contract.

Posted by: tundey
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Yes, he does.

Posted by: sagaliba | April 22, 2009 12:33 PM

The roster on this team shapes up a 45-50 win outfit regardless of the coach. None of the Big 3 is a good defensive player and only Haywood's presence made them a decent defensive team two season ago. Flip may get them to be more proficient on offense, but this team's core players are not geared towards playoff basketball like Cleveland or Boston.

We don't have a Verajao or Joe Smith on the roster who gives us toughness inside or low post scoring in the case of Smith. The Wiz are a perimeter team that relies heavily on the scoring abilities of the Big Three (when healthy) to outscore other teams. This is why the Wizards have never won 50 games under Eddie Jordan or advanced beyond the second round.

The Wizards need to seriously reshape the roster if their goal is to become a true contender. A return to health and the hiring of Flip just means more of the same from our one and one playoff seasons.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 22, 2009 12:40 PM

Regarding the 1980's Lakers Showtime teams: very few fans cared about the defensive schemes. People were watching to see Kareem's skyhook, Byron Scott's jump shots and Magic's magic! Defense became interesting when the Lakers had to face the Pistons Bad Boys in the finals of the 1987-88 season. Defensive stalwarts like Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, Dennis Rodman became as important as Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars.

If Flip Saunders is a student of the game, he will mold JaVale McGee, Andray Blatche and Brendan Haywood in the style of the Pistons Bad Boys. Our big men are more athletic and basically need to bulk up.

That defensive task will be a lot easier to achieve if the Wiz get Blake Griffin. To carry the 1987-1988 Pistons - 2009-2010 Wizards analogy further, Gilbert Arenas can be the new Isiah and Nick Young takes on the role of Joe Dumars. The pieces are in place.

Posted by: musicmanjr | April 22, 2009 12:52 PM

Flip Saunders has always looked sharp in a suit but can he defend and shoot the three? That's what this team really needs(last in the league in 3 pointers and last in the league in defending the three).

Posted by: dandyhuffman | April 22, 2009 1:39 PM


At first i was against the move because of Flip's history but taking a second look he has put together some good teams in Minnesota and Flip did take the Pistons to 3 conference finals.

Flip dealt with strong characters such as Spree and Sheed and managed to win, so I doubt he'll have to worry about that in DC. The only issue this Washington franchise has had is with winning. I don't expect him to bring a championship to DC in 4 years, but hey, Larry Brown coached several teams before he finally got his ring in Detroit so anything can happen.

Posted by: rcnasa | April 22, 2009 1:58 PM

Looking forward to next season.

I was so tired of Eddie J's weave and Eddie T's Awfence.

If the Wizzies stay healthy and some bench player or draftee steps UP we'll be playing for the top spot in the east and Flip will be COY.

Everyone is talking about D but you gotta score the ball first. If the TEAM plays together the D will improve.

Gonna be interesting.
The young guys need to make some BIG strides this off season.

AB needs to stay home and order in if he gets a craving instead of prowling the DC streets for satisfaction.

Posted by: VBFan | April 22, 2009 2:07 PM


musicmanjr,

Pat Riley's teams have always been about defense. Lakers, Knicks, Heat...all of his teams were about holding your opponent scoring down. Lakers were the exception because they had a point guard who liked to push the tempo.

Th toughness you mentioned that Mahorn, Lamibeer and Rodman era is dead and buried, NO team in the NBA does that. In the 80's and before 70's etc all played with that kind of toughness. It was detriot media that labeled it 'bad boys' becuase of the way they knocked around MJ. Problem is that kind of toughness distracted NBA fans from watching people thought the game was less about skill and more about knocking people on their butts.

That kind of toughness cannot be learned it's something you have prior to joining an NBA team. Sure you can develop it over time but a lot of the Wizards players won't develop the kind of tough you mentioned until later in their careers.

Posted by: rcnasa | April 22, 2009 2:22 PM

musicmanjr: In the 80's the players were allowed to play defense more aggressively than they do now. The rules have changed, so you will no longer have the "Bad Boys" type of players in the 2009/10 version of the NBA. Players would be in foul trouble or throw out for flagrant fouls if you played like that today. The Wizards mainly need to improve on defensing the 3-point line better and limit(can't stop) penetration. I believe with Haywood back and an improved McGee, the latter will be easily accomplished. However, new schemes will need to be employed to stop the high % of 3-pointers made. We have the personal to be a decent defensive team, but as has been stated previously, the Wizards are built to score and if we do that well other teams will have to expend more energy and time into defending our scorers as well. Go Wiz!

Posted by: garrybrown | April 22, 2009 2:31 PM

"Nick Young will play the role of Joe Dumars"? WTF? That's gotta be a joke.

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | April 22, 2009 2:31 PM

LarryInClinton has to really be Mark Jackson. C'mon, was Mark Jackson at all a memorable player? Give us all a break. Here's his stat line (in the hopes we never have to hear about him again):

.447 FG .332 3P 3.8 Reb 8.0 Asst 1.24 Stl 2.43 0.0 Blk 1.7 TO 9.6 Pts

Posted by: BulletsFan1 | April 22, 2009 2:38 PM

wizfan: "The roster on this team shapes up a 45-50 win outfit regardless of the coach. "

Geez, I'd be happy with that.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 22, 2009 2:43 PM

Mark Jackson was a very good player, one of my favorite PGs of the day. And while the Knicks may well have won a title if he'd been on board. But the only reason his presence would have given them a chance at a title is because they're defense was holding opponents to the low 80s in scoring. Without that defense, the Knicks failed to get out of the first round with Jackson running the point.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 22, 2009 3:04 PM

It is about time! Intelligent, insightful comments from savvy Fan's of the Pro Game!
I say put a PERMANENT end to those juvinile rants that stopped me from reading these Blog's some time ago.
Great job!
By the way, I am very excited to have Flip Saunders Coach this team. I think next season will be a great one!

Posted by: jshavatt | April 22, 2009 4:33 PM

VABeachFAN:

"Awfence" "...instead of prowling the D.C. streets for satisfaction." Sweet!!!!LOL.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 22, 2009 5:06 PM


You basically said in your article Saunders is a "failure" as an NBA coach and the Wizards hired him to be one here also, lol!

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The only way I can see someone interpreting this article as basically saying Saunders is a failure is if the only definition of success is a championship.

"... considering Phil, Greg, Pat, and Doc are the only coaches out there with rings (Rudy T, I guess but it sounds like he's busy as well), "

Posted by: crs-one | April 22, 2009 6:57 PM

rcnasa:"Th toughness you mentioned that Mahorn, Lamibeer and Rodman era is dead and buried, NO team in the NBA does that. In the 80's and before 70's etc all played with that kind of toughness. It was detriot media that labeled it 'bad boys' becuase of the way they knocked around MJ"

First time I heard the phrase 'bad boys' was about the Bruise Brothers, Ruland and Mahorn, for the way they knocked everybody around.

Funny, I wasn't bored watching them.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 22, 2009 7:37 PM

I think the Detroit Pistons are either all finished or are just simply not interested in this playoff. They just haven't showed up. IF this is their true colors, the team needs to be blown up and rebuilt. Simple as that.

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Good idea!

Let's play vulture with the Pistons.

Antonio McDyess for Blatche and Etan?
Maxiell for Etan and Pech?


Posted by: crs-one | April 22, 2009 7:49 PM

"He lost Latrell Sprewell and Sam Cassell in his final season in Minnesota"

By Michael Lee | April 22, 2009; 9:45 AM ET

He lost Sam Cassell and now he wants to make Sam Cassell his assistant coach? You sure he "lost" him?

Posted by: Barno1 | April 22, 2009 10:10 PM

sagaliba -- What's the point? We all knew that. What does that accomplish?

BulletsFan1 -- You're nuts, man. Mark Jackson is a top 10-12 point guard of all time. Everyone thinks so. Google it, dude. And stop cutting on Nick Young so much, player. You're gonna look silly.

Posted by: Urnesto | April 22, 2009 11:13 PM

sagaliba -- What's the point? We all knew that. What does that accomplish?

Posted by: Urnesto
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Have no idea what you refer to or what you trying to say (let alone accomplish).

Posted by: sagaliba | April 23, 2009 9:32 AM

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