Saunders: Arenas Needs to Lead

My Flip Saunders story today couldn't touch on everything that was discussed at his introduction. One of the more interesting comments that Saunders made yesterday was that Arenas is ready to take on a leadership role with the team. With his "goofball" persona and unpredictable behavior, Arenas has always been reluctant to be a leader.


I can lead like this. I don't know about that other stuff. (AP Photo)

Former Coach Eddie Jordan tried to give Arenas the role as team captain a few years ago and Arenas eventually backed off because he said he didn't even believe some of the things he was telling his teammates. That will have to change, Saunders said.

"Let me tell you, when you're the best player on the team, you don't have a choice," Saunders said. "That's a responsibility you have. I don't know any team that's ever really had success if the best player hasn't been a leader. I think he understands that now."

Saunders added that being away from the game the past two seasons because of his injured left knee has given Arenas a different perspective on the game. Saunders and Arenas have been communicating on the phone and via text messages the past week. Saunders said one of the main subjects has been the responsibility that comes with being a leader. "I really believe he's ready to take the step in order to do that," he said.

Maybe Saunders has been drilling the message into Arenas's head the past few days, because even after Arenas took the unusual step on the flight back from Boston last week of challenging his teammates to be more serious next season, the three-time all-star still sounded as if "Team Leader" is a title that he'd rather not hold.

"No. Antawn is the leader of this team," Arenas said. "I've respected him in Golden State. When I was there, he was the leader of that team. When he got here, I was the franchise player, but I didn't want to step on his shoes. So when he came here, I said, 'You're the leader. We're following you.' While everybody is looking at me, I'm looking at him."

Someone asked Saunders about how well he knew Arenas before accepting the job and I had to chuckle when Saunders said, "I had him once at the all-star game."

You remember how that turned out? Saunders played Arenas just nine minutes in the 2006 all-star game in Houston. Arenas declared himself the East Coast Assassin, and exploded for 34 points in his next meeting against Saunders and the Detroit Pistons. Arenas laughed about the incident last week.

"See, that was just me at the time being me," Arenas said with a shrug. "It was nothing personal, it was just, 'Hey, we've got them one more time, they're one of the best teams in the eastern conference.' I don't have vendettas. I don't hate anybody. I have fun with it."

By Michael Lee |  April 24, 2009; 11:14 AM ET
Previous: Who Will Assist Flip? | Next: R.I.P. Pistons (2002-2009)

Comments

Please email us to report offensive comments.



That's a pretty clever response by Flip. Leaves me some hope he'll have some witty post game comments, especially making fun of his players (one of my favorites parts of the Eddie Jordan era).

On an unrelated note, because I'm gonna be bored the next 6 months till the Wizards start playing again, if we ended up with the #2 pick and Rubio, would you guys be willing to trade it to Sacramento with Thomas and James to bring back Martin?

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 24, 2009 11:45 AM

They'd be "willing" in the same way a bank robber is "willing" to accept a withdrawl. But unless they approach the bargaining table with a gun and a ski mask, I don't think Sacramento will be too interested.

Posted by: pondaz | April 24, 2009 11:51 AM

I can see Sacramento as being willing to do that deal. Can't see any reason why the Wizards would, though. That's a lot to give up for a guy who's basically Nick Young with more shot opportunities. Given all the hype and apparent interest, they could get better for Rubio.

Also, the combined salaries of Yong and James are about $5 mill more than Martin makes.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 12:14 PM

Flip is absolutely correct about Gilbert being a leader.

It is a fact that in organizations big and small, the most dominant person is the one that leads. It can be by choice or not. We can say whom we want to be the top dog, but human behavior trumps all of that.

I have always thought Gilbert was the leader of the Team, whether he wanted it or whether AJ is the Designee.

Also, it does not mean necessarily because you are the leader, it has to be all good. Leaders can also run you in the ground.

To Gilberts credit he realized that he was not ready to be The Leader, so he deferred to AJ and he did not sabotage AJ. But, Gilbert still received criticisms for perceived inappropriateness, but he never truly harmed the Team even though he really was the Leader.

This speaks volumes for Flip Saunders and it shows that Flip knows a thing or two about Humun Behavior.

I am liking more and more what I hear coming from Flip.

Damn, I might have to let Mark Jackson go. Naww, maybe the Knicks will come to dey' sinces and hire him.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 24, 2009 12:25 PM

On the trade of Rubio, Thomas and James.

I'm with Kalo on this one. If Rubio is as good as they say he is, that would be a royal fleece by Sacramento for someone we donot even need.

Getting rid of Thomas and James is good, but adding Rubio for someone whom dosen't make your Team any better is not a good trade.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 24, 2009 12:38 PM

Good luck with Gill being designated as a leader. This separates Gill from the rest of the high profile NBA stars like Kobe, Lebran,Dwyane Wade,Chris Paul,Kevin Garnett and others. Leaders are born not manufactured! You lead by example and based on the belly aching and "me "attitude ( playing no D ) Gill will continue his same antics and the Wizards will be no better than an average franchise who has not won a NBA championship let alone appeared in one since 1978 !

Posted by: rlomax67 | April 24, 2009 12:41 PM

Rlomax67,

Can't you read. Gilbert is the leader. Always was and will continue to be. This ain't new.

What is new is that we finally have a coach that knows Gilbert is the leader of this Team and always has been.

That alone in itself changes the dynamics of the Team and any conclusions drawn from the past five years about Gilberts ability to lead is flawed at best.

You see all that Gilbert has accomplished in the past is on the line now. And he along with Flip Saunders intend on making the absolute best of all things going forward.

So enough wit' the negativity, OK.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 24, 2009 1:04 PM

It might be splitting hairs, but they won the title in 79'. They got upset in 78' when they were favored.

Leaders are not born, they grow into the role. I can understand with Gil's background that he's been slow to adopt a leadership role. I can also understand his defering to Jamison. since Jamison was an established guy in the league when Gil arrived at Golden State as a second round pick.

Jamison often refers to Gil as "little brother". Gil is much like Earl Monroe, Earl wasn't preceived to be a leader early in his career. But listen to anybody that played with Earl and the respect they have for him as a team mate. He grew into a rock in the lockerroom, shame he did it in NY.

Gil will mature into the role and get the young guys to follow him.

If the Wiz are in position to pick Rubio, my bet is that they trade the pick. I think they'll get more then Martin, it's interesting from some of the reading I've been doing. Seems like there is more chatter about teams being willing to trade up to get Rubio then interest in trading for Griffin.

That surprises me, I've not seen enough of the guy to form an opinion. But it seems some teams think he's a can't miss kind of guy. Could be one of those weird years when the team with the 2nd pick is sitting in the cat bird's seat.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 24, 2009 1:14 PM

Aside from the fact that the trade doesn't work (Thomas and James are owed something like $14 million next year, plus Thomas' ridiculous trade kicker), why would Sacremento trade away there best player for a rookie who'll have no one to pass to and two atrocious contracts? Yeah, James comes off the books after next year, but you're still stuck with Thomas for the following year, and the trade kicker. If you're the Kings, you want Rubio to complement Martin, not replace him.

And what is this about the Wizards not needing a SG? Is it because we can't possibly improve on DeShawn? SG is the one starting position that isn't locked up for next season.

Posted by: pondaz | April 24, 2009 1:27 PM

Ok, so Saunders wants Gilby to be the leader and Gilby is still deferring to MeTawn.

So why are Les BouleS paying this guy max money again when he won't assume the leadership position?

Superstars out there are the face of the franchise and lead. They include DWade, LeBron, and Kobe.

I think Gilby is still hesitant b/c he's not sure what kind of player he'll return as next season. If he's still Gimpy Gilby, then that could shatter his fragile ego.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 24, 2009 1:58 PM

A "rift" between the young and vet players?

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/24/busy-offseason-awaits-wizards/


"Gilbert Arenas took the first step toward shrinking the divide last week when he challenged his teammates to better themselves in the offseason and that next year there would be no young guys vs. veterans. Such leadership from Arenas has been rare in his previous eight seasons. He said he still intends to defer to Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler rather than take on a leadership role, but Saunders said he expects that to change.

"When you're the best player on the team, you don't have a choice," he said. "That's a responsibility you have. I don't know any team that's had success that didn't have leadership from their best player. And I think sitting out the last two years he's been able to see that.

"I know Gilbert wants to win. And in the texts and conversations that we have, that's the main thing we've talked about: what it is to be a leader, what it is to have commitment and the responsibility that comes along with those things." "

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 24, 2009 2:08 PM

Can't help but feel the word leader is overused and overrated. Don't think it matters one way or another who Gilbert says is the "leader."

I believe the Kings have a trade exception that could be used to match the salaries, but the rules are complicated. Regardless, I'm sure other players could be thrown in to make the salaries match, and the gist of the question was: would you trade a potentially great player for an already very good player? Which I think gets to the bigger question of: are the Wizards actually close to being a contending team, as they say they are?

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 24, 2009 2:12 PM

"Can't help but feel the word leader is overused and overrated. Don't think it matters one way or another who Gilbert says is the "leader."

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 24, 2009 2:12 PM "

The issue is that Gilby doesn't want to be the leader...whether that word is overused or not.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 24, 2009 2:15 PM

"Aside from the fact that the trade doesn't work (Thomas and James are owed something like $14 million next year, plus Thomas' ridiculous trade kicker), why would Sacremento trade away there best player for a rookie who'll have no one to pass to and two atrocious contracts?"

(A) The salary matching issue was already addressed. It wouldn't take both James and Thomas, only one (and maybe Pecherov thrown in).

(B) Both Thomas' and James' contracts expire at the end of next season while Martin is owed 4 more years and about $45 mill, meaning that Sacramento would actually save craploads of money if they traded Martin for one of those guys.

(C) Given that they were the worst team in the NBA last season with the ninth highest payroll and are looking at some sizable lux tax payouts Sacramento will, almost certainly, be interested in shedding salary.

(D) Martin is a nice player but he's way overpaid and he plays the position where good players are far and way the most plentiful and easiest to find. Given the choice between a one-dimensional scoring guard and a potential game-changing, playmaking PG, most GMs will run towards the latter.

Those are all of the reasons why the Kings would do it. They are also some of the reasons why the Wizards wouldn't.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 2:18 PM

"Regardless, I'm sure other players could be thrown in to make the salaries match, and the gist of the question was: would you trade a potentially great player for an already very good player?"

If the already very good player filled a needed role on the team that would help it achieve its immediate goal, sure. But Martin doesn't. By the same token, neither does Rubio. If they were going to trade the Rubio pick, they would need to get something that helps them more than Martin and, given the amount of apparent hype and interest around him, they should be able to do that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 2:21 PM

Martin makes about $11 mill next year, so it would take more than one of Thomas or Jane but less than both (but, as GshawnJohnson said, the salary issue could be worked out with some throw in players on each side). In any case, the deal would easily end up benefiting the Kings more than the Wiz.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 2:29 PM

We need to get Raja Bell and Leon Powe.

That would address 2 major weaknesses
1. perimeter defense
2. having a big man in the middle (tall skinny boys who dont play defense dont count, sorry blatche and mcgee)

Posted by: m1ke3i6 | April 24, 2009 2:32 PM

Powe is 6' 7". The last thing the Wiz need are more undersized "big" men. They also don't have much call for another offensively challenged wing player.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 2:36 PM

In this trade scenario, where are the Kings picking in the draft? 1st overall (Griffin?). Maybe a better move for the Wiz would be to package the #2 (Rubio) and an asset or two (Blatche, Young) and try to move up.

Posted by: jbisdaman | April 24, 2009 2:36 PM

No need to apologize to blatche, he's a a 3 in a 4s body. he's a pro player so it's fair to expect him to produce, but he was playing out of position just like DS, MJ, JD and everyone else who was affected by the injuries.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 24, 2009 2:37 PM

leon powe tore his ACL a week ago. No need for that here, we got one guy with that already!!

Posted by: BurgwithaU | April 24, 2009 2:39 PM

jbisdaman, if the Kings are picking number one, they'd really have no incentive to trade with the Wiz. They could just take Rubio with the number one pick and be done with it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 2:42 PM

kalo. I disagree. I think the Kings will take Griffin #1 knowing he's the sure thing in the draft. If they can get Rubio and another piece or two in return they'd probably do it though. They could take blatche or young and rubio from the wizards for griffin and a trade exception. I do hear what you are saying though, but I don't see how any team passes on Griffin #1 even a team like the Kings with a greater need at PG.

Posted by: jbisdaman | April 24, 2009 2:49 PM

It's ridiculous for anyone to think that Sac will take Rubio.

When you have the #1 pick, you go for the sure thing...or as sure as can be.

Rubio has a huge, supposedly 6 mil, buyout clause and that's almost like a show stopper.

Also, GM is wrong in thinking Les BouleS would go for Rubio. EG has already had to deal with JCN, and Rubio has an even bigger buyout clause.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 24, 2009 2:57 PM

Seems like there is more chatter about teams being willing to trade up to get Rubio then interest in trading for Griffin.

GM,

Because Griffin is projected to be a stud in the league (and the only stud at that), the price to trade up to #1 is astronomically high.

That (plus the fact that the other players in the draft aren't nearly as valued as Griffin) drives the price for the #2 pick down. So there are many more teams that can pay the price to move up to #2 or #3 if they really like Rubio or Thabeet.

Posted by: jones-y | April 24, 2009 2:59 PM

"We need to get Raja Bell and Leon Powe.

That would address 2 major weaknesses
1. perimeter defense
2. having a big man in the middle (tall skinny boys who dont play defense dont count, sorry blatche and mcgee)

Posted by: m1ke3i6 | April 24, 2009 2:32 PM "

I was calling for a Raja Bell trade before he was dealt this past season.

Unfortunately, trading for Raja is not possible b/c Les BouleS signed a lemon called MeShawn.

Interesting how there's been no reports to date on his back condition, and what's worse was that he lost his shot well before he got injured and well before he benched himself.

Again, a "great" EG resigning when no one else tendered him a contract. SAme for AB.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 24, 2009 3:00 PM

"I do hear what you are saying though, but I don't see how any team passes on Griffin #1 even a team like the Kings with a greater need at PG."

Depends on what you mean by "sure thing." Griffin has long been considered the best player in the draft, but even his most ardent boosters don't see him as a real franchise player. And much of those earlier projections came when Rubio's draft status was uncertain. Since it's become more clear that he would enter the draft there has been some talk about him challenging Griffin for the #1 slot.

In any case, both guys (if the hype is to be believed) have tremendous upside, but Griffin is easily the most NBA ready contributor in the draft. However, that doesn't count as much for the Kings because their entire team doesn't appear to be NBA ready. They're still in rebuilding mode so, unlike the Wiz, they have the luxury of waiting for a potentially game changing player to develop. If they project Rubio to be the better player down the road, I can certainly see them taking him. It all depends on what their rebuilding plan is (assuming they have one). The Wiz, on the other hand, need someone who will make an impact now, and Griffin is better suited for that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 3:16 PM

Bottom line is that this entire hypothetical scenario is based on the idea of the Kings wanting Rubio. If they really want him and they get the #1 pick, then their best course of action would be to just draft him outright, because any clever trade scenarios they concoct to draft Griffin and get both Rubio and something else in return for Griffin would be risky at best. (Although, if that happened, Griffin would be a helluva consolation prize.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 3:29 PM

Don't think Bell is the answer. He's not getting any younger.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 24, 2009 4:05 PM

Do u guys think trading for either Amare Stoudamire or Chris Bosh will really help? Amare seems like a finese player playing in the West. Do u think he would be successful in the East?

Posted by: thecomedian1 | April 24, 2009 4:22 PM

If Griffin is not available there is an immediate impact power forward alternative. Carlos Boozer will be a free agent this summer. Does anyone see any way the Wiz can loosen up some salary cap space to sign Boozer?

Posted by: midlevex | April 24, 2009 4:42 PM

Trading for Amare would be the best thing the Wizards have done in years. I should coach the Wiz, this would be my championship starting lineup:

PG-ARENAS
SG-BUTLER
SF-JAMISON
PF-STOUDAMIRE
C-HAYWOOD

THIS WOULD EQUAL RINGS
TRADE UR PICK AND SOME OF YOUR GOOD YOUNG PLAYERS FOR AMARE AND THERE YA GO.

Posted by: jah1981meel | April 24, 2009 4:54 PM

As is the norm, 88 seems to have problems with reading. I said the Wiz would likely pick AND TRADE Rubio "if they drew the second pick".

They draw the first pick they'd take and keep Griffin. Third, my quess is still Thabeet. Fourth probably Hill, but again I'd think they'd be more inclined to trade, unless Thabeet was still on the board.

The only way to get Boozer would be in a sign and trade deal. It would be just about impossible to find trading partners to free up that much cap space.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 24, 2009 5:00 PM

In general it's early to be talking draft/trade options until the lottery is drawn.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 24, 2009 5:12 PM

In general it's early to be talking draft/trade options until the lottery is drawn.
-GM

Agreed of course but then here we are endlessly speculating on which players will be chosen by which team, depending on which ping pong balls pop up in what order.

Alright then, forget about Griffin, Rubio et. al., a comment on the blog topic regarding Arenas' leadership qualities or lack thereof.
I tire quickly of proclamations on leadership, those who talk of leading, of assuming, presuming or designating leadership; particularly and most annoyingly prevalent in politicians and athletes.
Agent Zero Gravitas' non-leader, leadership position is refreshing and I think closer to reality based thinking than some suspect.
His early deferral to Jamison's seniority was respectful and his ambivalence since then regarding public declarations regarding leaders suggest, I hesitate to say it, wisdom. His team mates and coach Saunders are aware of who the leaders are on the team; they lead by their effectiveness on the court. That's generally how it works.

Posted by: midlevex | April 24, 2009 6:11 PM

why would Sacremento trade away there best player for a rookie who'll have no one to pass to?


Rubio would also have Griffin or Thabeet to pass to for the next decade, and after Thomas or James contract expires, they would have the cap room to pick up the role players to become major contenders. I think Sac would be the ones with the ski mask and gun in this kind of trade.

Posted by: Jase21 | April 24, 2009 6:49 PM

"And what is this about the Wizards not needing a SG? Is it because we can't possibly improve on DeShawn? SG is the one starting position that isn't locked up for next season.Posted by: pondaz"

Really? I was thinking Butler at SG, Jamison a little farther out on the wing, and Blake Girffin at that PF spot. You no like?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2009 7:19 PM

It's hard for me to see a big man like Thabeet slipping to 3 behind Rubio. Two obvious issues: Rubio isn't a proficient 3 point shooter, and he's pretty skinny. So although I suspect he'll be a better player later, Thabeet as a really, really tall guy would normally get the most interest.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2009 7:23 PM

"As is the norm, 88 seems to have problems with reading. I said the Wiz would likely pick AND TRADE Rubio "if they drew the second pick".

They draw the first pick they'd take and keep Griffin. Third, my quess is still Thabeet. Fourth probably Hill, but again I'd think they'd be more inclined to trade, unless Thabeet was still on the board.

The only way to get Boozer would be in a sign and trade deal. It would be just about impossible to find trading partners to free up that much cap space.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 24, 2009 5:00 PM "

Several blog topics ago, you mused about EG drafting Rubio. Of course, I squashed your argument back then.

Here you are again still musing about Rubio.

Unless EG is a moron, he should only draft Rubio if there is a taker out there (eg. Devin Harris) on draft night...not just draft him and hope for a suitor later.

If the latter happens, EG will soon see Rubio's stock value plummet, and then we'll see another tiered trade pick like the one EG got from Memphis in return for JCN's rights. Of course if this happened, it wouldn't be a total surprise b/c this is what Les BouleS do.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 24, 2009 9:16 PM

"If Griffin is not available there is an immediate impact power forward alternative. Carlos Boozer will be a free agent this summer. Does anyone see any way the Wiz can loosen up some salary cap space to sign Boozer?

Posted by: midlevex | April 24, 2009 4:42 PM "

Boozer won't thrive here unless you blow the team up and get rid of the little 3.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 24, 2009 9:18 PM

"Does anyone see any way the Wiz can loosen up some salary cap space to sign Boozer?"

No.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 24, 2009 11:12 PM

Butler I think is better at the 3 but OK at the 2, but -
Jamison at the 3 I think is a definite no no. When he was younger he was money there but now I think he will get torched on D.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 24, 2009 11:50 PM

"They also don't have much call for another offensively challenged wing player." - kal

I'm not sure I'd label Raja Bell in that way. He no offensive powerhouse, but he fits a much needed role for us. He's a very good defensive player who also happens to be a good outside shooter. He is up there in age, but he's also entering the final 2 years of his contract, so there's no long term penalty to bringing him in. He's most certainly an upgrade over what we have at the position.

But a question I pose to everyone is, who out there, who's not a franchise player for their team, is a 2 guard we should try to bring in? Or do people think we are set at that position?

Posted by: segastyle | April 25, 2009 2:06 AM

"But a question I pose to everyone is, who out there, who's not a franchise player for their team, is a 2 guard we should try to bring in? Or do people think we are set at that position?Posted by: segastyle"

Not sure I get this question. You mean current free agents? Hard to imagine a team with 19 wins being 'set' at any position.

Too bad Roger Mason isn't available, huh?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 25, 2009 6:28 AM

since all of the roster slots are full but one, and the Wiz own a lottery pick, signing a Free Agent isn't in the cards.

If the Wiz get lucky and get Griffin, Jamison and Griffin playing in tandom at forward could be done on at least a part time basis. That would then create minutes for Butler at the two.

If The wizards were to trade for a two, the three guys that I see that could fill a need and would be available seem to be Rip Hamilton, Micheal Redd, and Dunleavey. Dunleavey and Redd would carry risks since they're coming off injury. Hamilton had an off year, was it the situation in Detroit, or is his game declining?

But if Grunfeld was inclined to make a move in that direction, I think any of the three could be had for an expiring contract(Thomas or James) a young player(Blatche or Young? Probably too high of a price to pay) or, some assorted leftovers(like Songaila or Stevenson) thrown in.

I'm just not sure that Ernie will want to stay that far over the LT to bring in a vet at the two. In the end I'd almost think he stands pat at that position.

I'm not real impressed with Harden in the draft. If the Wiz are at the 5 and that's the pick, I'd consider trading it.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 25, 2009 8:05 AM

According to the FO we're set at every position. If we pick #1 take GRIFFIN. #2 take THABEET. #3-TY LAWSON MAYBE! #4 ????. Agree with florTV on a trade of the #5 pick.

Personally I still see a need for an ultimate replacement of HAYWOOD. He's 30 this year and we need to develop a true center behind him. McGEE is a tweener and not the answer long-term at the #5 position. Having a true PF however could develop a double post offense with McGEE and GRIFFIN IF BLAKE is the real deal. That remains to be seen. On the defensive end, GRIFFIN would need to be a beast with McGEE inside with him. Somebody's got to make their presence felt on the defensive end as HAYWOOD does now.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 25, 2009 8:47 AM

The Wizards are NOT set at every position. If the Wiz DON'T get the #1 pick, they've got to seriously consider drafting a 2guard with their pick. James Harden from Arizona State is a good possibility. If it's a pure outside shooter that we're looking for, Stephen Curry has declared his eligibility for the draft. He's small, but he is 'money' from long range.

The Wizards will probably pick Ricky Rubio [if they don't get the #1 pick] and pull one of their Public Relations publicity stunts and draft Greivis Vasquez in the second round.

Posted by: musicmanjr | April 25, 2009 10:02 AM

its pretty clear that probably both NY and AB will be traded this offseason for some veteran rebounding and 3pt shooting. Hopefully some of the deadwood...ET, OP, MJ will be able to be moved as well. I also wouldnt be surprised to see one or both of the players to be drafted or the picks moved for veterans too. Once the bench purge has occured and the new vets are in place, EG will finally bring over the Russian to fill out the last roster spot...and I guess he will spend most of his time in the D league.

Posted by: oddjob1 | April 25, 2009 10:32 AM

The problem is that anyway you look at it, the Wiz can't improve this offseason. Rather than adding they have to CLEAR cap space and they have so much dead weight that nobody wants (i.e. Stevenson, Thomas, Pech, and so on). If they draw 2, they'll likely trade Rubio or the pick, which is disastrous. Basically the best the Wiz can hope for over the next few years is a playoff spot.

Posted by: nadeemsx | April 25, 2009 12:05 PM

Disagree nadeemsx. Expiring contracts are gold. May be tough to make a deal this summer but James and Thomas, with a pick or prospect, could fetch a helluva player in January.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 25, 2009 12:12 PM

I hope so GshawnJohnson. Either way you look at it, this team has been badly mismanaged, from finances to the roster.

Posted by: nadeemsx | April 25, 2009 12:19 PM

Etan Thomas, Darius Songaila, Mike James, Olecksiv Pecherov.

If any of these players cannot be moved, trading Blatche, Young, or Stevenson, would be like treading water. Too offset what you would get for these marginal performers and still carrying those four on the Team really does not help you at all, or make sense.

We have to get this right. Our pick hopefully lands us Blake Griffin. If it does not, then we still should look at getting the best fit for the Team with our pick. Use the pick with stip' along with those 4 to trade down for someone we can use.

Swapping/trading any of our young core while still having those four on the sqaud is subtraction in my book.

Subtraction for sure, because I donot think any Team would trade us any better than what we would be giving up.

It is too early to be trading Young and Blatche.

Adult supervision is on board now. So lets see how they respond to proper coaching before we send them off for what we think is greener pasture in return.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 25, 2009 12:32 PM

LarryInClintonMD -

I agree with your comment that "it is too early to be trading Young and Blatche."

Everyone knows that Etan Thomas, Mike James, Oleksiy Pecherov and Juan Dixon aren't in our long term plans. However, getting rid of Nick Young and Andray Blatche isn't the way to get to the promised land. As a matter of fact, Nick and Andray are the two guys that Gilbert "I'm not a leader" Arenas invited to work out with him over the summer. I suggest that we give Gilbert the opportunity to work with the young guys and give the situation some time to work.

Posted by: musicmanjr | April 25, 2009 1:00 PM

GLAWRENCE007

I like your #1 - #5 scenario. The fact that Rubio is not there makes sense.

I am not sold on Rubio. But if Teams are convinced he is that good I would do a deal that packages him, Etan and James for a lower pick. Not the #1 pick though. Thats Blake fo sure.

If we did that deal for a lower pick, Lawson, Hansbrough, and others probably would still be available.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 25, 2009 1:04 PM

GLAWRENCE007

I like your #1 - #5 scenario. The fact that Rubio is not there makes sense.

I am not sold on Rubio. But if Teams are convinced he is that good I would do a deal that packages him, Etan and James for a lower pick. Not the #1 pick though. Thats Blake fo sure.

If we did that deal for a lower pick, Lawson, Hansbrough, and others probably would still be available.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 25, 2009 1:19 PM

Oops

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 25, 2009 1:21 PM

Invoking the wisdom of Red Auerbach, whom I've commented before always traded for value but never gave up any; It may be our time to fleece if we don't get the #1.

If we are looking at Rubio on the board and it is our turn, we fleece by doing a deal with Etan and Mike and Rubio for a lower draft pick.

Dosen't look like a winner for us but it is. We get rid of two dead contracts and in return we get a good prospect.

The fleeced Team is probably so enamored with Rubio, whom we really don't need, they may be willing to deal with those dead contracts.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 25, 2009 1:42 PM

Larry, we'd have to take a contract back unless we trade with one of the few teams that can take on extra dollars.

But your scenario does work if we'd ask for Bosh. Then the trick would be to sign him.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 25, 2009 2:44 PM

So the Wiz trade two players they don't want and a high draft pick they don't need for a lower draft pick while the other team gets cap relief and a higher pick to use on player most believe to be the best PG in the draft?

How, exactly, is that a fleecing by the Wiz?

And given that the Raptors just re-signed Calderon to a new deal at the beginning of the season, they wouldn't appear to be in the market for another young PG.

All that being said, I still maintain that if the Wiz don't get Griffin they will most likely trade the pick. But if they pick after Rubio is already gone, then their return on the trade may be a good deal less than spectacular.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 25, 2009 3:18 PM

"Not sure I get this question. You mean current free agents? Hard to imagine a team with 19 wins being 'set' at any position." - sampson

I actually meant any player, not a franchise, who you think the wiz could make a play for. Meaning, don't throw in names like, "oh kobe would make a good 2g for us." What 2 guard out there do people think the wiz could potentially get via trade, that would make them a better team?

I had mentioned Raja Bell ,mainly because i think he brings a much better version of Stevenson to the table, despite the age difference, and he's certainly not the 2g of the future for Charlotte. I also agree with kal that Martin from Sactown wouldn't really help the wiz out that much. He doesn't bring a need to the team.

Posted by: segastyle | April 25, 2009 5:48 PM

Quick, somebody call the cops...

I just saw Gilby and Jason Campbell drive off GW Parkway into the Potomac.

I guess neither can handle the emotional rollercoaster, and Chris Samuels wasn't around to give JC a hug.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 25, 2009 6:30 PM

If we don't get Blake G. and go 2nd then I'd like to see Rubio here.

The draft is a crap shoot and you gotta take the best talent not try to get someone to fill a slot.

Trading Etan ain't gonna happen.
For one thing who will give up anything for someone that had his chest cracked open and his most vital organ worked on????

Besides that when healthy Etan plays with energy and bangs for 10-15 min a game. If we could get that from others off the bench we'd be better.

If we don't get Blake or Rubio then we hafta take the best available. We don't have anything to trade for someone that will make a difference.

The Wizzies will be OK next season.
IF HEALTHY.
If we can get some bigtime help in the draft all the better.

Flip will be COY.
It was a no brainer for him to take the job. Eddie Tap could win 40 "IF" the team is healthy.

Posted by: VBFan | April 25, 2009 6:41 PM

"Trading Etan ain't gonna happen.
For one thing who will give up anything for someone that had his chest cracked open and his most vital organ worked on????"

Someone who wants $7.5 mill in cap relief.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 25, 2009 9:17 PM

Trading for Etan Thomas for cap relief purposes is kind of like writing off capital losses.

You're still losing money.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 25, 2009 9:56 PM

"So the Wiz trade two players they don't want and a high draft pick they don't need for a lower draft pick while the other team gets cap relief and a higher pick to use on player most believe to be the best PG in the draft?

How, exactly, is that a fleecing by the Wiz?"

Let Me Explain.

First of all, lets assume we use our free slot (JD) for our pick and Blake Griffin is gone because we did not get the #1 pick.

When we do pick, if Rubio is still on the board, we are going to do a sign and trade to a Team that wants Rubio so badly that they will also take ETan and James as a part of the deal for there lower first round pick.

The bluff is, if Rubio is so good and a can't miss prospect and other Teams believe that, then they might be willing to get him at any cost for there lower 1st pick.

Now, it is fact that if we stand fast next year besides our #1 pick we will have to carry three gauranteed contracts on the inactive list, slots 13-15.

So now if we can get a Team that wants Rubio so badly to take two of those contracts with Rubio for the lower lst pick, then thats a fleece for the Wizs.

Thats the deal and we are not taking a player back from the Team that wants Rubio.

Thats the deal, take it or leave it.

We do the agreed sign and trade and that gives the Wizards room to sign there 1st and 2nd round pick and an open slot on the roster.

We get rid of two dead contracts and we still get a first rounder for Rubio, a so' called' can't miss player that we really don't need.

All the Teams that might want Rubio might not already have 14 gauranteed contracts like the Wizards and may be able to finagle those two contracts because they want Rubio so badly.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 25, 2009 10:44 PM

Now I mentioned ETan and James, but Peck, Dson, and DStev, can be considered.

Any two of these along with Rubio is the deal.

As my father always says', the biggest gamble jus' might' be' the' easiest' ta' pull' off.'

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 25, 2009 11:03 PM

"Now I mentioned ETan and James, but Peck, Dson, and DStev, can be considered."

Yeah, nice attempt at a backpedal.

You said the deal was the 2nd pick, Etan and James, both of whom have expiring contracts, for a lower pick. So, basically, the Wizards would be giving up the number two pick (a potential starting PG) and $14 mill in future cap space for a lower pick (in a weak draft) and, at the same time, refusing to take back a player who may help them?

Oh yeah, that's a great deal for the Wiz.

(Never mind the fact that, as has been discussed in these parts a million times, teams can't just trade players for picks. Grunfeld could insist all he wants, but unless he's dealing with a team (Detroit is the only ones who come to mind) who will have enough cap space to absorb $14 million in salary, the Wizards would be required to take back roughly the same amount of salary back.

In other words, it ain't happenin'.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 26, 2009 12:07 AM

Yo Michael,

Ivan never use to take the weekeknds off?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | April 26, 2009 7:48 AM

Saunders: Arenas Needs to Lead

Is this guy kidding or is he as stupid as ETaps?

How can someone lead when all they do is dribble the ball down the court and throw up a shot. Hopefully this guy has done something over the last two years like watch some other NBA games and learn the real way to play the game of basketball.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | April 26, 2009 7:52 AM

I saw Ivan on TV while channel surfing.

I think he's still working out the kinks with his sports broadcast ambitions.

He looked a bit goofy on tv, especially with his pinstripe khaki suit and non matching tie.

If you're out there Ivan, keep your head up, and do whatever you need to do to get Wilbon off the airwaves.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 26, 2009 9:26 AM

"How can someone lead when all they do is dribble the ball down the court and throw up a shot. "

Presumably they hope he won't do that. And those two lonely appearances at the end at least looked like a positive step in that direction.

So does Arenas revert to his old form -- which after all made his a boatload of cash -- or does he alter his style for the benefit of the team?

Michael and Kobe chose the latter. We'll see what Gilbert does.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 10:27 AM

"Michael and Kobe chose the latter. We'll see what Gilbert does.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 10:27 AM "

In case you didn't notice, both MJ and Kobe were able to maintain their high scoring ability, both were world class defensive players, both were incredibly focused individuals, and both were able to increase team success at the same time.

Gilby is nowhere near that level, by any stretch.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 26, 2009 10:50 AM

dcman: "In case you didn't notice, both MJ and Kobe were able to maintain their high scoring ability, both were world class defensive players, both were incredibly focused individuals, and both were able to increase team success at the same time."

I did. But Michael had to learn to ratchet down his individual scoring for the team's benefit, and so did Kobe. Phil Jackson played a role in both decisions. And so Gilbert Arenas is capable of making the same transition -- except perhaps in your eyes, which are, IMO, slightly occluded.

By the way, neither Jordan nor Bryant started out as world-class defensive players. That was another transition they made after they entered the NBA.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 11:45 AM

Quick, somebody call the cops...

I just saw Gilby and Jason Campbell drive off GW Parkway into the Potomac.

I guess neither can handle the emotional rollercoaster, and Chris Samuels wasn't around to give JC a hug.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 25, 2009 6:30 PM


---------

Dude hates Jason Campbell too? geez...

Posted by: crs-one | April 26, 2009 12:36 PM

"I did. But Michael had to learn to ratchet down his individual scoring for the team's benefit, and so did Kobe. Phil Jackson played a role in both decisions. And so Gilbert Arenas is capable of making the same transition -- except perhaps in your eyes, which are, IMO, slightly occluded.

By the way, neither Jordan nor Bryant started out as world-class defensive players. That was another transition they made after they entered the NBA.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 11:45 AM "

You prove time and time again that you have your blinders on and don't know what you're trying to talk about.

MJ "ratchet down his individual scoring" by still averaging near 30 pts, while maintaining his defensive intensity during his tenure in Chicago.

MJ made the all defensive team 9x starting in '88 when he was also defensive player of the year.

Kobe is still averaging in the mid to high 20's despite the leash you say Phil put on him, and Kobe is an 8 time all defensive player and Kobe didn't even go to college.

Therefore, your attempt to parallel Gilby, who detests playing defense, with these two superstars is weak at best, but that's not unusual coming from you.

Gilby freely admits that he can't juggle both, and after 3 knee surgeries, he probably will need to change his game.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 26, 2009 3:52 PM

"Dude hates Jason Campbell too? geez...

Posted by: crs-one | April 26, 2009 12:36 PM "

Doesn't matter if I hate him.

What matters is what Snyder and Cerrato think, and they've put out ample evidence that JC is not their man.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 26, 2009 3:53 PM

Since him and his head coach haven't spoken in months, it seems pretty clear that Rip Hamilton could be playing his last game in Detroit.

Sure looks like Joe Dumars will be looking to dump the last 4 years of his deal if he decides to stay with Curry on the bench. Like Pau Gasol last year at the break, it sure looks like an former Allstar will be on the move for possibly pennies on the dollars.

Difference is Ernie may have some cards to play this time with James and Thomas's expiring deals.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 26, 2009 5:53 PM

"Since him and his head coach haven't spoken in months, it seems pretty clear that Rip Hamilton could be playing his last game in Detroit.

Sure looks like Joe Dumars will be looking to dump the last 4 years of his deal if he decides to stay with Curry on the bench. Like Pau Gasol last year at the break, it sure looks like an former Allstar will be on the move for possibly pennies on the dollars.

Difference is Ernie may have some cards to play this time with James and Thomas's expiring deals.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 26, 2009 5:53 PM "

Bringing back Rip is a sad testament to the state of Les BouleS.

Don't get me wrong, Rip is a great guy and great scorer, but Les BouleS traded him and others for Jerry Stackhouse and others where Rip spent 7 of his best seasons with the Pistons.

Does he have much left in the tank? Will Les BouleS be able to resign Caron/BTH if Rip has 2 more guaranteed years on his contract?

A total boneheaded trade by Les BouleS.

Les BouleS need a solid defender and post scorer at the 4, not another scorer on this team.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 26, 2009 7:38 PM

dcman: "maintaining his defensive intensity during his tenure in Chicago.MJ made the all defensive team 9x starting in '88 when he was also defensive player of the year.
Kobe is still averaging in the mid to high 20's despite the leash you say Phil put on him, and Kobe is an 8 time all defensive player and Kobe didn't even go to college.
Therefore, your attempt to parallel Gilby, who detests playing defense, with these two superstars is weak at best, but that's not unusual coming from you.Gilby freely admits that he can't juggle both, and after 3 knee surgeries, he probably will need to change his game."

Once again, you prefer to argue with yourself. Well, I guess it's a sure path to victory.

What I said was that both Michael and Kobe made a decision to change their games in order to increase their team's chances of winning a championship. And Phil Jackson played a role both times.

Implying that if those two scoring geniuses could do it, then so presumably could Arenas.

That's a true statement, by the way.

I took the comparison not one jot farther than that. Didn't say he was as good a player.

The rest of it is in your head. Along with all that other clutter that lives there.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 7:47 PM

If the Wiz address the need for a 4 or 5 via the first pick, or a trade of the pick. They could still have the ammo to address the two. It would only take either James' or Etan's contract and another player such as Stephenson's or even Pecherov to make the numbers work.

I'm not saying Hamilton is the route to go, just pointing out the case of a player that has played at an Allstar level that will likely be on the move. If Dumars brings back Curry, I can't see Hamilton being back.

Besides I think Dumars would like to free up an extra money next summer. In this league Allstars move for pennies on the dollar quite often. Sometimes a team just needs to be sitting there with expiring contracts to make them move their way.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | April 26, 2009 8:06 PM

Ricky Rubio is a less accomplished version of Juan Carlos Navarro. There, I said it.

I'd be surprised if Rubio goes in the top 20. The NBA is a man's game, and if you're running the point, you've got to be ready to bang with the likes of Deron Williams. Rubio is not that guy.

Ty Lawson, on the other hand..

Posted by: satchmore | April 26, 2009 8:47 PM

"Once again, you prefer to argue with yourself. Well, I guess it's a sure path to victory.

What I said was that both Michael and Kobe made a decision to change their games in order to increase their team's chances of winning a championship. And Phil Jackson played a role both times.

Implying that if those two scoring geniuses could do it, then so presumably could Arenas.

That's a true statement, by the way.

I took the comparison not one jot farther than that. Didn't say he was as good a player.

The rest of it is in your head. Along with all that other clutter that lives there.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 7:47 PM "

Once again, you make weak statements and try to back them up with even weaker follow on arguments.

Both MJ and Kobe have/had the ability to do damage on both ends of the floor. Gilby neither has the ability to play man defense nor does he have the desire. He said this as much, and unfortunately for you, Flip Saunders ain't Phil Jackson.

With Gilby, trying to focus on D will take away from his offensive game. Gilby would rather outscore you than shut you down, because he knows he can't do the latter.

Keep fantasizing about Gilby being some sort of defensive stopper, because that's all it'll ever be, as with the rest of weak arguments.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 26, 2009 9:24 PM

The only similarity between Rubio and Navarro is the country they come from. Honestly don't know why you bother posting.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | April 26, 2009 9:38 PM

"Implying that if those two scoring geniuses could do it, then so presumably could Arenas.

That's a true statement, by the way.

I took the comparison not one jot farther than that. Didn't say he was as good a player.

The rest of it is in your head. Along with all that other clutter that lives there.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 7:47 PM "

Gilby will be a 28 year old veteran right after the start of next season. Not just a veteran in the league, but also a veteran of 3 knee surgeries.

Somehow, according to this clown, Gilby will become a defensive stopper...all because of Flip Saunders's urging.

If Flip can convert him, then he should get the Nobel Peace Prize. Flip is having a hard enough time convincing Gilby to become the leader, and now, Gilby will be convinced to be come a defensive stopper like MJ/Kobe too?

If all of us could live in that peaches and cream dream world that Samson lives in....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 26, 2009 9:44 PM

"Since him and his head coach haven't spoken in months, it seems pretty clear that Rip Hamilton could be playing his last game in Detroit."

Where did you hear that at? I check the local coverage of the Pistons in the Detroit papers online on a near daily basis and I've never read any such thing.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 26, 2009 10:22 PM

SAM CASSELL will be announced as Flip's assistant this week.

Posted by: ptp23 | April 27, 2009 12:11 AM

"Presumably they hope he won't do that. And those two lonely appearances at the end at least looked like a positive step in that direction.

So does Arenas revert to his old form -- which after all made his a boatload of cash -- or does he alter his style for the benefit of the team?

Michael and Kobe chose the latter. We'll see what Gilbert does.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 26, 2009 10:27 AM "

Where in there do you see the word defense, DCMann? He was talking about passing the ball and not jacking up shots.

Posted by: babbtong | April 27, 2009 12:13 AM

dcman: "Somehow, according to this clown, Gilby will become a defensive stopper"

I guess I'm the clown, huh?

Never said any such thing. Willful misunderstanding of the argument, I'd call it. By a fellow who can't win any other way.

Unbutton that top collar button, dcman, and remove that clip-on bow tie. It's hot today, and you're already running about 12 degrees above normal.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 27, 2009 8:34 AM

DC_Man 88,

Defense ain't has hard as you think it is. It is just too bad that a whole lot of coaches and people put way too much emphasis on it and seriously do not know what good defense is or how to go about teaching it.

Include yourself in that fraternity.

Defense is heightened by your desire to win. Successful and truly good coaches let desire and sound defensive scheme contribute to outscoring your opponent.

If it is your true goal to win it all and you know that you have a fighting chance to accomplish it, then you must overcome all obstacles to achieve it, including poor defense.

Coaching along with individual desire by your players to play good Team defense is an easy Task to achieve.

Anyone that continues to believe that this Wizards Team with Flip as coach will not be one of the better Defensive Teams in the East is a little short in the reasoning department.

It is hard to win if you have to develop good Offensive talent, but: It is much easier to win if you have good Offensive talent and only need to develop your Defense.

Give me a man that can score and I will teach him how to be your Defense guy everytime.

He only needs to stop the Defense guy one less time than he can score. Think about it DC_Man 88.

Theres' wisdom' in' dem' dar' words.'

Defense ain't hard and the last time I checked, Gilbert Arenas ain't no dummy.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 27, 2009 10:23 AM

GM, Kalo,

Is it a NBA rule that if I cannot trade three players for a draft pick?

Is it an NBA rule that when trading that the contracts have to match for both Teams?

If expiring contracts are golden, then why can't I trade my golden contracts to another Team for something that I want? (i.e. a lower 1st pick, a slot for my 2nd pick, and an open slot on my roster for me to use at my choosing, i.e. my fleece proposal).

If the NBA has rules now to prohibit this and I admit, I am not up on the all the rules, then they have taken all the fun out of trading so that I cannot Red Auerbach someone. Is this true?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 27, 2009 10:37 AM

Larry,

You should really think about getting a new routine. This one is starting to get a mite stale.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 27, 2009 10:49 AM

Correction to above: beat not be

Give me a man that can score and I will teach him how to beat your Defense guy everytime.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 27, 2009 10:50 AM

Seriously, guys. It's the Bullets. And we don't even have MJ this time around to get the league to fix the lottery and give us the privelege of taking Kwame. They're going to end up with the fifth pick, take Lawson as insurance on Gil's next injury, give AJ another 50 million and take Caron out back and put him out of his misery. Not that I'm bitter or anything... :)

Posted by: imperialme | April 27, 2009 10:57 AM

Kalo,

Humor me. Of course I can websearch the answers to the questions posed, but its much better and more interesting conversing on the matter with distinguished posters as yourself, GM, and others.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 27, 2009 11:05 AM


Flip is right, Gil is the best player on the team and as that, he needs to become more of a leader. If you look at the best players in the game, all of them are leaders of their teams and if Gil feels he should be mentioned with the LeBron Kobe, and Wade,then he has to take the first step in leading.

It's cool to continue to have Jamison as a leader but the future with Gil and it's up to him to motivate players in becoming stars on the team.

We'll see if Gilbert can practice what he preaches during the regular season. It's one thing to beat a team in the regular season it's another to beat them 4 times in the playoffs.

Posted by: rcnasa | April 27, 2009 12:55 PM

"Theres' wisdom' in' dem' dar' words.'

Defense ain't hard and the last time I checked, Gilbert Arenas ain't no dummy.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 27, 2009 10:23 AM "

Last I checked, the defenseless Les BouleS have either been one and one in the playoffs, or lottery bound.

Les BouleS aren't good enough offensively to run teams off the court, and clearly aren't good enough defensively to stop anyone.

What happened to Paul Westhead when he ran the run and gun in Denver?

-------------------------------------------

Denver Nuggets

After the 1989-1990 season, Westhead left LMU for the NBA's Denver Nuggets, a position he held for two seasons. His tenure in Denver was best known for attempting to incorporate the run-and-gun offense that worked for LMU to the NBA.

However, while Denver averaged a league-best 119.9 points per game in 1990-91, it also surrendered an NBA record 130.8 points per game, including 107 points in a single half to the Phoenix Suns, which remains an NBA record. Under Westhead, the Nuggets were sometimes called the "Enver Nuggets" (as in no "D")[citation needed]. Westhead was fired from the Nuggets after two seasons after posting a combined W/L record of 44-120.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Westhead

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 27, 2009 5:05 PM

#1 BLAKE GRIFFIN

#2 HASHEEM THABEET

#3 TY LAWSON

#4 PUNT

#5 TRADE

My five possibles in this upcoming draft.

And who thinks with this injury that AGENT ZERO is going to drastically IMPROVE on defense. U-u-h, NO!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 28, 2009 8:08 AM

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 

© 2007 The Washington Post Company