Wizards Will Pick 5th

At 8:49, it was revealed that the Wizards got the worst pick they could have received after finishing tied for the NBA's second-worst record. They'll pick fifth.

The L.A. Clippers won the lottery, and the right to choose Blake Griffin first overall. Memphis, Oklahoma City, Sacramento (which had the worst record) and the Wizards followed.

Post your Wizards-related snap reactions below or send to mcmillank@washpost.com for inclusion in a future item.

Michael Lee will check in soon.

By Keith McMillan |  May 19, 2009; 8:53 PM ET
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Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | May 19, 2009 8:57 PM

blake griffin fights dogs while driving drunk. at least im pretty sure i read that some where. (enough of this and maybe he falls to 5)

Posted by: skins1110 | May 19, 2009 8:57 PM

curse of the le bullet

Posted by: Bigmon411 | May 19, 2009 8:58 PM

This draft lottery was stupid not because the curse of Les BouleS proved alive and well, but because the NBA dragged out this BS until 8:50pm.

What a freakin' farce.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | May 19, 2009 8:58 PM

This is absolutely the worst case scenario. I think I can hear Lebron laughing and doing a little dance in Cleveland.

Posted by: BillEmm | May 19, 2009 8:59 PM

Every year we see how broken the system is. The two worst teams pick 4th and 5th? I mean who wonders why teams have so much trouble improving with lottery picks? No trade value, no player who will help us much. Total loss for the Wizards.

Posted by: russcarreiro@yahoo.com | May 19, 2009 9:00 PM

another couple of years worth of Etan Thomas. Joy.

Posted by: whughes1 | May 19, 2009 9:00 PM

Might as well trade the pick, man the Bullets opps I mean the Wizards have bad luck.

Posted by: calito01 | May 19, 2009 9:01 PM

Obviously pretty brutal. The one good thing is that there a lot of comparable players in the draft and you just need one team to fall in love and deal a vet/multiple picks.

None of the other players look that hot right now. Harden has not impressed me and will the Wiz take another USC wing player (DeRozen). Tyreke Evans is interesting and Jordan Hill in theory is a nice fit at PF, but...

Trade down or deal the pick for a veteran.

Posted by: b_standig | May 19, 2009 9:01 PM

This draft lottery was stupid not because the curse of Les BouleS proved alive and well, but because the NBA dragged out this BS until 8:50pm.

What a freakin' farce.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | May 19, 2009 8:58 PM

Agreed. They use to do it back in the day at halftime of a playoff game. What a waste of 30 minutes (even if we would've won the lottery).

Posted by: CBell29 | May 19, 2009 9:01 PM

Guess what Wizards fans? We get totally hosed again. The Clippers and Wizards finished the regular season with the same record. So they had a coin flip about a month ago to see who was slotted 2nd and who was slotted 3rd. The Wizards won that coin toss. If the Wizards had lost that coin toss, we would have have the Clippers combinations of numbers (178? out of 1000) instead of our (179? of 1000). We lost Blake Griffin on that coin toss! This team is forever doomed.....

Posted by: vladdrac71 | May 19, 2009 9:01 PM

This is kind of strange - the last time Flip Saunders represented his team at the Draft Lottery, his team dropped to #5 and selected Kevin Garnett. Pick turned out great! Of course, this draft is totally different.

Also, it sucks because it sure looked like the Clippers were deliberately tanking games.

Posted by: Lisa_R | May 19, 2009 9:02 PM

All I need to say is - Brandon Roy was picked 6th overall. Paul Pierce went 10th. Caron Butler went 10th. Richard Hamilton went 7th. It's far from the end of the world.

Posted by: grounder | May 19, 2009 9:02 PM

finishing in the final five of the NBA is not an award.. there has to be a certain amount of chance or else everyone would be trying to lose the last few weeks. Yes we are cursed, but Ernie has also made some really bad decisions which got us into this situation. The Clippers have had som nay great draft choices, and they still suck, so what?

Posted by: lk11 | May 19, 2009 9:03 PM

...The Year of Lebron continues...

Posted by: BillEmm | May 19, 2009 9:03 PM

p. freakin. u. May be able to trade the 5th pick for a bench player or to unload james and/or thomas. Worst draft system in professional sports.

Posted by: creativefunk | May 19, 2009 9:03 PM

Sick to my stomach... Worst possible pick - and of course we get it. I knew it. Broken system, Stern. Clippers were tanking all season long and yet they get #1.

They are a pathetic franchise. Just unbelievable. This one's going to hurt for a long time.

Posted by: AsianZero | May 19, 2009 9:04 PM

Not to sound like sour grapes, but it is shaping up to be a pretty weak draft.

We got the least expensive pick coming our way (not by much), but it could turn out to be enough for EG to unload a couple of bad contracts.

Or we take Jordan Hill and get some big man toughness to come off the bench.

Now, about that medical staff...

Posted by: mabkhar | May 19, 2009 9:04 PM

Flucking bullspit...that's what this way.

Take Harden or Hill and call it a day.

Should have hired Thibodeau as the hc. Our team will still be poor defensively and weak on the boards.
Our only chance is to run and gun and hope our shot is falling in the playoffs. Our best rebounder is getting old and we haven't taken the time to develop our bigs. As sad as this sounds, our best young rebounder might be Pech and since no one has ever given him a shot, he may not be on the team. (Yes Pech is a better rebounder than both AB and JM at this point)

bummer.

Posted by: original_mark | May 19, 2009 9:04 PM

stupid Wizards. lost all those games for nothing. with the 5th pick in the 2009 NBA draft, the Washington Wizards select a gift certificate to Dick's Sporting Goods.

Posted by: superwilks | May 19, 2009 9:04 PM

Well, look on the bright side, last time we picked 5th, we drafted Devin Harris and traded him for Jamison which started our run of 4 straight playoffs.

But on a side note, I would love to see them draft Tyreke Evans. Its just something about him that just screams superstar.

Posted by: CBell29 | May 19, 2009 9:04 PM

...and we all thought it was a good thing when we beat the Clippers in the coin toss to get credit for the 2nd worse pick. clearly the Wiz would have had the # 1 pick if we lost that coin flip. they shoulda did the Gilbert coin toss...since the Wiz won it, they could have awarded it to the Clippers. trade the pick!!

Posted by: mddad97 | May 19, 2009 9:05 PM

No luck whatsoever. How long has it been since we've had a winner in the DC area? Hope Grunfeld can pull off some trade magic. If we could unload Kwame for Caron, anything is possible.

Posted by: stormng | May 19, 2009 9:05 PM

The NBA Lottery is the BIGGEST FIXED SC*** -JOB there is. They won't draw the balls in public because that way they can fix it as usual. Anyone who wastes a Dollar going to David Stern's Fixed league is crazy. At least with the WWE they admit the outcome is predetermined.

Screw you David Stern

Posted by: scottbour | May 19, 2009 9:06 PM

unless MJ23 is our pres again, stern will never let the wiz win this sham of a lottery system.

Posted by: hcic55 | May 19, 2009 9:06 PM

On the bright side, at least we don't have to face Griffin much. He's gonna eat AJ's lunch. Guarantee he averages 20 rebounds per game against us.

Posted by: original_mark | May 19, 2009 9:07 PM

Could be a blessing in disguise if it forces the issue and gets the Wizards a veteran upgrade (perhaps someone who can provide even more immediate help than Griffin). Still hard to see the Wizards getting much back in trade unless they are also willing to part with at least some of their young talent (e.g. Blatche or Young plus a contract or two).

Posted by: JPRS | May 19, 2009 9:07 PM

Did I understand correctly? Did the guys on the stage know the results before they were announced? Would that explain the stupid grin on the Clippers' guy's face? What the f***?

Posted by: satchmore | May 19, 2009 9:07 PM

5th? FML.

Posted by: jkahn001 | May 19, 2009 9:07 PM

Trade the 5th, Etan & Gill for Bosh & Toronto's 1st.

superwilks, GREAT COMMENT! HAHAHA

Posted by: Toochilled | May 19, 2009 9:08 PM

p. freakin. u. May be able to trade the 5th pick for a bench player or to unload james and/or thomas. Worst draft system in professional sports.

Posted by: creativefunk | May 19, 2009 9:03 PM

I agree 110%! This is the dumbest system in the world! So what if a team tanks to get the 1st pick. Every other sports league gives the team with the worst record the 1st pick and no other teams complain. It would've been ridculous for a team like Phoenix to win when they're loaded anyway. If he wants to do a lottery, he should take the 3 worst teams and do a lottery only for them instead of having ALL the teams that don't make the playoffs in it.

Posted by: CBell29 | May 19, 2009 9:10 PM

STOP CRYING- TAKE TYREKE EVANS AT THE POINT- HIS GAME IS NASTY- HE JUST NEEDS TO DEVELOP A JUMPER

Posted by: One9 | May 19, 2009 9:12 PM

A much more pressing concern than what pick they landed is the team's gawd-awful uniforms and name for that matter.

If we can't have the "Bullets" name back, can we at least get our colors back?! Seriously, the awful play aside, the Wizards jerseys are utterly repulsive.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | May 19, 2009 9:13 PM

I just read that the Wiz had only a 11% chance of slipping to the 5 spot. Should have known it was a sure thing.

Game over man!

Posted by: stormng | May 19, 2009 9:14 PM

The NBA Draft Lottery is pure dung!

Posted by: zbopjazz | May 19, 2009 9:14 PM

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Posted by: sargeantmofo | May 19, 2009 9:15 PM

A much more pressing concern than what pick they landed is the team's gawd-awful uniforms and name for that matter.

If we can't have the "Bullets" name back, can we at least get our colors back?! Seriously, the awful play aside, the Wizards jerseys are utterly repulsive.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | May 19, 2009 9:13 PM

I was listening to one of Tony and Mike video blogs once, and Wilbon was talking about how that when MJ was team president, he was trying to bring back the Bullets and colors. It would only make sense to do it now considering the amount of success that the Caps had when they went back to the red, white, and blue.

Posted by: CBell29 | May 19, 2009 9:17 PM

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!!! Another young knucklehead to join the squad! Please do not let this rookie pick up the work ethic of Nick and Dre Blatche!

Posted by: t-train | May 19, 2009 9:19 PM

Once again the Clippers get rewarded for their incompetence (and season-long tank job) and will select first. Think about how great we all felt when the Wiz won the coin toss to have second-best chance at winning. Turns out we lost big time. I just hope James Harden is there when the Wiz pick 5th and I hope they will keep the pick. I really believe he will shine if he's not relied upon to carry the whole load. I believe our frontcourt is already set (notice I didn't say "great") with the guys we have. Should be an interesting draft.

Posted by: Firuz1 | May 19, 2009 9:22 PM

I have to wonder about whether or not the audience for the NBA game is growing or on the decline. With this kind of perpetual dross, I can't take much of it have generally lost interest, and maybe others feel the same. How many times have the LA Clippers won the lottery? The system is not fair. This city needed a basketball pick me up and it just received a let me down. Between the GM, the owner, and the league I believe the franchise is headed down the tubes at a more accelerated pace.

Posted by: zbopjazz | May 19, 2009 9:22 PM

Even if Les Boulez had LOST the coin flip to the Clips, the number that was called for the No. 1 would still have belonged to LA.

The difference in odds would have been 1 in 1000.

Anyway,
LAC - Griffin
MEM - Rubio
OKC - Thabeet

Depending on who the Kings pick at 4, we'll end up with either Harden or Hill.

Now if I were Ernie, I would work the phones to drop down in the draft and take a Jennings or Tyreke Evans.

My guess is that the Kings take Hill because the next good big in this draft is outside the lottery. On the other hand they take maybe Jrue Holiday since they REALLY need a PG.

Posted by: mabkhar | May 19, 2009 9:26 PM

What do you know, the #1 pick can end up in Washington, Sacramento or LA -- and he ends up in LA!?!?!?!? Wow, talk about funneling players to a media market.

Trade the pick for a vet, there's no room for another project on this team who can't defend the pick and roll.

Posted by: wizfan305 | May 19, 2009 9:26 PM

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Posted by: mikejc80 | May 19, 2009 9:26 PM


A much more pressing concern than what pick they landed is the team's gawd-awful uniforms and name for that matter.

If we can't have the "Bullets" name back, can we at least get our colors back?! Seriously, the awful play aside, the Wizards jerseys are utterly repulsive.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | May 19, 2009 9:13 PM

I was listening to one of Tony and Mike video blogs once, and Wilbon was talking about how that when MJ was team president, he was trying to bring back the Bullets and colors. It would only make sense to do it now considering the amount of success that the Caps had when they went back to the red, white, and blue.

Posted by: CBell29 | May 19, 2009 9:17 PM

Theres actually been a lot of research and stat analysis done on how teams with RED in their uniforms are more successful. This shiet is no joke and I'm not surprised to hear MJ tried to get em changed back to r/w/b...I have no doubt he knew what a disadvantage the 'tards were at even before the opening tip based solely on their queer colors.

Theres some pretty interesting studies done, such as here:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,570918,00.html

Posted by: tomfoley1 | May 19, 2009 9:30 PM

Best fifth picks:
04 Devin Harris
03 Dwyane Wade
01 Jason Richardson
00 Mike Miller
98 Vince Carter
96 Ray Allen
95 Kevin Garnett
88 Mitch Richmond
87 Scottie Pippen
86 Brad Daugherty
84 Charles Barkley

OK, I say we draft Barkley or Pippen.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 19, 2009 9:30 PM

There is a future NBA star at the 5th pick. The question is whether Grunfeld can identify him. The last thing we should do is trade the pick for an aged veteran in the hope we can win a championship now. In two years we would be much worse, with Butler, Gilbert, Jamison and Haywood all on their downside. Grunfeld is likely to try to keep the 2005 dream alive, moderately improve the team in the short term, keep his job for a couple more, then leave the team in utter tatters. Use the pick on our future, on someone who can help us now, and for another 12 years. Sure, Boston bought a quick championship, but they have likely had their day and face a long rebuilding process. Personnel moves should not just be judged in terms of immediate help, but man years over the long term. Harden, Evans, Hill all have superior/star potential, and another 4 or 5 players in this draft will turn out to be stars/near stars. We just have to identify him.

Posted by: jwlaytham | May 19, 2009 9:32 PM

Clearly, the draft was fixed. It makes the most sense to send University of Oklahoma star Blake Griffin to the LA Clippers instead of the new Oklahoma City franchise.

Personally, I think Abe should sell the team to Mario Lemieux and move the franchise to Pittsburgh. A team from Pittsburgh would have landed whatever draft pick they want.

If the franchise wants to turn it's luck around... How much longer till Abe sells the franchise?

Posted by: Matt23185 | May 19, 2009 9:33 PM

The NBA Lottery is the BIGGEST FIXED SC*** -JOB there is. They won't draw the balls in public because that way they can fix it as usual. Anyone who wastes a Dollar going to David Stern's Fixed league is crazy. At least with the WWE they admit the outcome is predetermined.

Screw you David Stern

Posted by: scottbour | May 19, 2009 9:06 PM


Yea there are certain situations I notice about the NBA, where the obvious outcome occurs all too often. So often that it can be questioned.

I was 99% sure the Patriots were going to beat the Giants in the SB.

I was 100% sure, that the Lakers were going to win game 3 of the NBA Finals last year.

I was 99% sure the Red Sox would not comeback from 0-3 to defeat the Yankees in the ACLS.

I was 100% sure that the NBA would be found not guilty in light of the accusations by Tim Donaghy, despite evidence pointing in his favor.

And I was 100% sure the Wiz were not gonna pick in top 3. They didn't show the drawing and the Wiz, when healthy, are good for 35-45 wins. We obviously didn't need to pick top 3, and somehow the draft reflected that. Funny how that works.

Posted by: Vicc | May 19, 2009 9:36 PM

Clearly, the draft was fixed. It makes the most sense to send University of Oklahoma star Blake Griffin to the LA Clippers instead of the new Oklahoma City franchise.

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They had the "hometown boy" draft last year, Stern can't be too obvious by doing it two years in a row. It's been a couple years since LA picked first, so he fell back on plan B :)

Posted by: crs-one | May 19, 2009 9:49 PM

There is no way you can make me believe this is good for basketball. The worst 2 teams in the league pick fourth and fifth. David Stern is clueless

Posted by: zojoy1962 | May 19, 2009 9:51 PM

This might be the best thing that could have happened to us. We (as fans and as an organization) need to stop waiting for the cavalry to come over the hill and rescue us. It's time to embrace the realization that we have a lot of talent on this team that has not been developed.
There are probably at least 20 teams in this league that would love to have AB or JM or NY. Even Critt probably has some fans after his late season showing.

What we should have done was proceed as if we didn't even have a pick and try to concentrate on building this team out of what we already have. I'm sure we're all feeling let down but with everyone healthy, we're solid IF IF IF IF we get production from our young guys. That's up to the players, more importantly, the coaches.

AB has proven he can score whenever he wants to because he has a handle and is more mobile than most guys his size. He's also a very good passer in the halfcourt game and sees the court well. Teach him how to stay in shape. If necessary get a trainer to work with him. Pay for him to go to A.T.T.A.C.K. to work with Tim Grover on his conditioning. Send him to Big man camp. Find a permanent role and position for him. Do something !!

JM has all of the skills that Garnett had coming out of high school and more athleticism. KG was listed at 220 lbs. Why can't we expect JM to grab 8 boards his second year like KG did? Teach him and he can do it. Give him consistent minutes and tell him EXACTLY what is expected of him.

Reward NY with solid minutes when he plays well and stop punishing him for missing a defensive assignment when CB and AJ miss most of theirs. He's a scorer so put him in there when we need points and take him out when we don't if that's what we need to do.

This team is in the habit of making excuses and I'm sick of it. We have the talent to win 50 games as is. Griffin would have been nice but we can be good without him. It's management's move.

Posted by: original_mark | May 19, 2009 9:56 PM

What is the point of the lottery. Just dole out the picks on the basis of finish. Period... Stupid idea to sell a few more ads?

Posted by: lanthier | May 19, 2009 11:32 PM

As heartbreaking as this is, and suspiciously bizarre (the chances of both the Kings and Wiz falling out of the top three was around 5%), we still have the number five pick. Going back to 1985, our success in the top seven (Juwan Howard, Tom Gugliotta, Calbert Cheaney, Richard Hamilton, Rasheed Wallace, Devin Harris and, well, Kwame Brown) is around 71%. Our success from picks 8 - 15 falls off dramatically (Jarvis Hayes, Jared Jeffries, Harvey Grant, Tyrone Bogues, John Williams, Kenny Green) which, by my estimation, is 0% for an exceptional player, 16% for a decent starting five player (Harvey Grant, to be nice). From 16 to 22, we have Javale McGhee, Nick Young, Pech, Juan Dixon, LaBradford Smith and Anthony Jones... a 33% success rate if Young and Mcghee pan out (a big IF). Dang, researching that shows how awful our GMs have been over the years. At any rate, if the past is any indicator, our chances of getting a solid player are pretty good. Because of missing out in the lottery top three, we also move up one pick in the second round, which could prove to be a blessing. While a weak draft at the top, there is strength at the end of round one/beginning of two. Possible choices at when we pick at 32 could include Tyler Hansborough, Wayne Ellington, Darren Collison, Dujuan Summers and Patrick Mills, who was The Flash against the Redeem Team, running circles around Deron, Kidd and Chris P. Maybe we could trade our one to move down and get Blair or Evans, use ensuing currency to move up into late first and grab a Hansborough or Ellington.

Posted by: jwlaytham | May 19, 2009 11:48 PM

"This might be the best thing that could have happened to us.

Posted by: original_mark | May 19, 2009 9:56 PM "

After reading this first sentence, I knew right then that there was no point reading the rest of this posting from the Kool-Aid man himself.

The logic just wasn't going to make sense.

Oh yeah.........

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | May 20, 2009 12:00 AM

OK, it would have been nice to get the no. 1 pick, but the odds were 82 to 18 against that. So it is no real surpise not to get it.

After the no. 1 pick and Blake Griffin, the rest of the draft lottery field isn't loaded. So my view is that it really doesn't make much difference that the Wizards are no. 5. I wasn't excited by the prospect of them drafing another guard, or another 7 footer.

Therefore, no. 5 is fine. They can take one of the power forwards that will be available, like Blair, or the guy from Arizona. I would be happy if they trade down and pick up Jeff Adrien from UCONN.

In any event it is not the end of the world. On the other hand, it IS time for Ernie G to earn his pay.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | May 20, 2009 12:09 AM

This was terrible. It might be a blessing in disguise. Tyreke Evans might make a great two guard for use and allow the Wizards to trade DS or NY with ET or MJ for a solid post up player.

Posted by: lemekdivine | May 20, 2009 12:18 AM

For those of you that are in love with Tyreke Evans, I have some words of caution for you from NBADraft.net: "NBA Comparison: DeShawn Stevenson"

I agree that Evans has some potential, but I just thought I would throw that out there as food for thought.

Posted by: SportzWiz | May 20, 2009 12:40 AM

Do not take anyone with "potential" in other words package the pick and get a true power forward.

Posted by: rskinz34 | May 20, 2009 2:15 AM

we have a top 5 pick, plenty of expiring contracts, young guys with potential and reasonable contracts, and jamison with a good contract, why do I have a feeling no one is going to trade with us, or will be willing to give us anything of equal value.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | May 20, 2009 2:29 AM

There's nothing "good" about Jamison's contract, from a trade perspective. He'll be 33 years old when the season starts with 3 years and almost $40 mill left on his deal.

Posted by: kalo_rama | May 20, 2009 11:20 AM

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