Jamison Picks DeRozan


See, Nick. I don't have anything against players from USC. (Photo by Ned Dishman/Getty Images)


The unofficial Wizards Insider poll may have been all about Stephen Curry, but the latest ESPN The Magazine -- the Revenge of the Jocks III issue -- asks an NBA player from each team with a first round draft pick to choose the player they'd like their general manager to select. It was an interesting take on the mock drafts by supposed experts that repeatedly blow up after the second or third pick.

In a relatively surprising move, Antawn Jamison did not take a member of North Carolina's championship team (I'm half-kidding). Jamison went with USC freshman swingman DeMar DeRozan. But when you read his explanation, you will see the North Carolina connection (there had to be one, right?).

Jamison says: "He reminds me of Vince Carter as a Tar Heel -- the build, the body and athleticism. He could've been a top pick if we didn't have the age limit. But he'll benefit from the veterans, and in two or three years, he can be a household name."

Interesting, eh? One, that Jamison feels that he would benefit from being around the vets. And two, that he is willing for DeRozan to be a household name "in two or three years." Jamison just turned 33 this month and his deal ends in three years.

For background purposes, Blake Griffin, Hasheem Thabeet, James Harden and Ricky Rubio were already off the board when Jamison made his selection. So that means he went with DeRozan over Curry, Tyreke Evans, Jordan Hill, Jonny Flynn, Brandon Jennings and, um, Ty Lawson.

The funniest part about the Mag's mock draft is that it also asked a few draft prospects about where they got selected. Evans slipped down to No. 9, where Toronto's Anthony Parker took the Memphis point guard. Evan's response: "Toronto is a good situation, but I could see myself in the top five -- easy. Honestly, I'm glad the players don't get to pick."


Does this remind you of Vince? (AP Photo/Jim Mone)

DeRozan made the boldest statement of this pre-draft period when he claimed to have better hops than Carter, who once high-jumped a 7-footer at the Olympics. "Now I get the chance to step in and show my athleticism and see if people still compare me to Vince Carter or not," he said.

DeRozan didn't put up the type of numbers generally reserved for top five picks -- 13.9 points and 16.7 percent shooting from three-point range --- but the 6-foot-6 swingman explained his inconsistent season at USC in Chicago by stating, "Every game, it was always a different matchup. Some nights I had to score. Some nights I didn't. Some nights I had to rebound. Some nights I had to defend. A lot of people didn't really understand how different college is from high school. It's just not about going out and scoring 30 points. It's about going out and doing what you've got to do to help your team. That's what I tried to do night in and night out."

In my conversations with Jamison near the end of the season, he wasn't putting too much hope in the draft providing a savior for a 19-63 team. Instead, he wanted to see Gilbert Arenas and Brendan Haywood get healthy -- and possibly for Ernie Grunfeld to use the pick to get some veteran help. At least Jamison was willing to play along for mock draft purposes.



By Michael Lee |  June 22, 2009; 2:01 PM ET
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Hey Michael:

You hearing anything out of NY about a possible Larry Hughes/Jared Jefferies deal?

Posted by: EYoung77 | June 22, 2009 2:08 PM

I've watched Vince Carter.
I knew Vince Carter.
You, sir, are no Vince Carter.

Check out his youtube clips. He's a good athlete but not elite. In fact, if you look at draftexpress and sort by 'no step vertical' there's only one guy who comes out higher than Vince Carter. It's our very own NICK YOUNG !!!! It's the highest ever 'no step vertical' since they were being measured at the camps and he beats out Vince by 3 and half inches.

If we're drafting a guy who is a good athlete who might turn into a good player, let's get him. Otherwise, let's pick the guy who put up numbers in college AND has a well rounded game suited for the pros.

Posted by: original_mark | June 22, 2009 2:14 PM

Can't wait for thursday!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BurgwithaU | June 22, 2009 2:40 PM

What draftexpress though of rondo's d when he came out of school. The page has a then and now analysis.

Then:
“ Defensively is where Rondo really made a name for himself as a high school player and initially in college. He has excellent lateral quickness and superbly quick and incredibly big hands. These two things together combined with his length make him a terror getting in the passing lanes, and Rondo indeed has league leading potential in this area if playing for a coach that doesn’t mind him gambling for steals on occasion. He’s extremely smart and confident in his defensive ability, and has the potential to develop into a smothering perimeter defender thanks to all of his outstanding physical attributes and the skills he already shows here. He’s not afraid to step in the lane and take a charge if the situation calls for it. Due to these same physical attributes (length, superb quickness and leaping ability, outstanding hands) Rondo is also a terrific rebounder who indeed led his team in this area from the point guard position. His toughness helps him out greatly in this area, and his Kentucky team would likely have been in very bad shape without his 6+ rebounds in 31 minutes per game. He managed to pull down 19 rebounds in 33 minutes in one extremely impressive performance against Iowa early on in the year.”
-Rajon Rondo NBA Draft Scouting Report: Strengths – 4/17/2005

“Small, skinny player with great length and lateral quickness. Closes out extremely fast on shooters and does a terrific job contesting shots. Tough-minded, aggressive defender who is very effective on this end of the ball. Does an outstanding job getting in the passing lanes, freakish wingspan allows him to wrap his arm around and poke balls loose even after getting beat. Excellent defensive rebounder for his position as well. Size and lack of bulk makes him susceptible to being posted up, but does a nice job fighting back. A big part of why Boston is such a strong defensive team.”
-NBA Scouting Reports, Atlantic Division (Part One) -11/30/2008

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 2:45 PM

originalmark: "It's our very own NICK YOUNG !!!! It's the highest ever 'no step vertical' since they were being measured at the camps and he beats out Vince by 3 and half inches"

Yes, he does. So the question becomes: why is he shooting fadeaway jumpers?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 22, 2009 2:46 PM

jamison wants a guy who he can trash in the media and get benched so he can get his shine on for the next "two or three years."

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 2:47 PM

Interesting that NY has the highest 'no step vertical' since it began being measured, which begs the question - why does he shoot so many fadeaways?

Shoot over some players Nick! Straight up! It almost certainly will improve your FG%.

Posted by: rphilli721 | June 22, 2009 2:48 PM

Vince Carter shoots a lot of fadeaways, too. So does Kobe. So did MJ, even before he got old. As long as you make it, it's a good shot.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | June 22, 2009 2:52 PM

What's every1's opinion of Nick Young?
seems like he fell off ther charts after GA & DS were injured last year.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 22, 2009 2:54 PM

Of course, those combine numbers are always a little suspect. According to them NY can do a 39.5 inch no step vertical but only a max of 40.5.

So he gets only one inch higher when running as opposed to standing still? That's doubtful to me. If it's true, then he's got pogo sticks for legs and he should be a better rebounder.


Quote of the day:
As long as you make it, it's a good shot.

pjkiger1

ABSOLUTELY!

Posted by: original_mark | June 22, 2009 3:05 PM

Nick needs a role and a coach who has faith in him. When he had the green light he played free and played well. He can get a quality shot off almost every time down. It's ajust a matter of maturity.

I'd check his eyesight and reflexes, though. I can't count the number of times a teammate has flashed open and Nick refuses to pass the ball to him until it's almost too late. I don't know whether he doesn't see them or just doesnt want to pass. He's definitely not a passer. We knew that going in. If you give it to Nick, expect him to shoot it.
Thats not necessarily a bad thing, though. he should be our primary scorer off the bench (along with Jamison if we knew what was good for us)

Posted by: original_mark | June 22, 2009 3:09 PM

Nick isn't a natural passer/facillitator. He's not used to having as many ball handling responsibilities as he did last year. He's a scorer. He's accustomed to being the guy flashing open or receiving a pass that leads to a basket. he needs a defined role or a coach with a plan for him. It seems like since he was drafted he's been an afterthought to the wiz coaching staff. I say we forfeit our pick this year if we don't have a plan for whoever we project as our pick.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 3:18 PM

Maybe too optimistic here, but what the heck: seems to me that Gilbert really raises Nick's game by advising him and letting him know (through his passing) when Nick should go to work and when he should play off the ball. The Cleveland game last year, for example.

Regardless, I'd be OK getting a new 2 guard. Nick Young can either develop and bump Deshawn, or not develop and get bumped by Deshawn.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | June 22, 2009 3:22 PM

Does stevenson still call himself the locksmith?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 3:30 PM

"Vince Carter shoots a lot of fadeaways, too. So does Kobe. So did MJ, even before he got old. As long as you make it, it's a good shot."

Putting aside the obvious fact that Young isn't as good as any of them . . .

Carter was pretty widely criticized when he started to take more long fadeaways and stopped taking it to the hole strong. It was generally seen as a sign that he was staying away from contact and playing soft/safe. And yes, Kobe and Jordan take/took a lot of fadeaways. But (A) they also took a lot of other kinds of shots. young doesn't. (B) They most often took the fadeaway as a fallback when they were being guarded by someone who was too quick for them to get around and too big for them to rise over to shoot. Young does neither. He goes to the fadeaway as a matter of default.

The problem isn't that he shoots fadeaway jumpers. it's that he shoots them almost exclusively, even in situations where there are better, more advantageous shots he could take and make.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 22, 2009 3:53 PM

i don't think it's just the fadeaway shot the blows people. it's the laziness with which he does it. it never looks like he's exerting a lot of effort on offense unless he's overdribbling trying to take his man to the basket.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 3:58 PM

the ghost of eddie jordan is gonna haunt nick for a while. He's gotta come in focused and ready to go to work and it's gotta be visible to the casual fan or die hards like some of us. I'm tired of the goofy smile, sheepish grins, glances at the bench after turnovers. If he has as much talent as a lot of people;myself included, think he does then this year is time to show it or i think all of his supporters go to the other side of the fence, and he goes to israel, tel maccabi

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 4:06 PM

from wikipedia:
Young flunked out of two high schools before finally being admitted to a third, Cleveland High School, in suburban Reseda, California. He had to take his SAT test three times before graduating. His first attempt he scored a 680 out of 1600, then scored a 620, before eventually getting a score of a 890 out of 1600.

This means he is either dumb, lazy or took the Moses malone route and just balled all day and night. I hope it's the latter, but hey...maybe he has changed.

Posted by: Blurred | June 22, 2009 4:44 PM

what does that have to do with basketball. i just heard about a 16 hs soph who's dropping out of hs to work on baseball. school is overrated nick shoulda been able to go to basketball school.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 5:07 PM

NY's court sense and maturity is where he is lacking. I don't know how a coach can teach a player to be aware of defenders or how to anticipate a cutting or open teammate. Nick's got some great skills as a scorer, but until he improves his ballhandling and passing, he's not a very difficult player to defend one on one. Even when he scores a lot, it's generally on shots the defense is willing to give him.

Hopefully, working out his summer with Agent Zero will improve his court awareness and his maturity. If he had developed more last year, I doubt the people on this blog would be talking about drafting Harden or Curry.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 22, 2009 5:12 PM

"what does that have to do with basketball."

It has a lot to do with basketball insofar as it's indicative of a mindset whereby he seems willing to the least amount of work he can get away with in order to get by, which is a pretty succinct description of his shortcomings as a player.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 22, 2009 5:16 PM

do they really flunk kids out of public high schools? that's rough especially considering the conditions.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 22, 2009 5:26 PM

The story behind Nick's flunking/dropping out of high school is that he couldn't stand to go to class alongside kids from the gang that killed his brother.

Posted by: yop32 | June 22, 2009 6:01 PM

MeTawn is stupid.

Why would this team need another wannabe highlight film in DeRozan?

How many rings has VC won?

Is DeRozan going to cover both his man and MeTawn's during games?

The only thing people should ask MeTawn is when he's going to play some defense.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 22, 2009 6:25 PM

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 22, 2009 6:41 PM

We'll never ever be able to stop anybody on the defensive end if Jamison continues to play PF.

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 6:42 PM

Certaintly hope # 4 does not have a voice in who the Zards pick, because his choice is not the correct one. It's Evans by a wide margin over DeRozan. I'm going to to keep singing it until it gets the ear of EG. Evans, Evans, Evans !

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | June 22, 2009 6:46 PM

Wiz worked out several 6'5"-6'7" SG/SF today, one of those guys will be the 2nd rd pick.

Posted by: rickgonz | June 22, 2009 7:03 PM

Yesss, and please please please don't select DeRozan.

I want Ty Lawson before I want DeRozan.

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 7:04 PM

if we take DeRozan I will be pissed....

Posted by: ccrum87 | June 22, 2009 7:15 PM

We'll never ever be able to stop anybody on the defensive end if Jamison continues to play PF.

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 6:42 PM

The Wizards will never be able to stop anybody until they find some guards that can defend the three, stop dribble penetration, and get back to prevent fast break opportunities. After that, if they're really serious about defense they need a bigger SF. There aren't that many dominating PFs in the East. Other than Bosh and Garnett, I can't think of another eastern conf. PF significantly better than Jamison. The damage is coming from the wing players.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 22, 2009 7:37 PM

The Wizards will never be able to stop anybody until they find some guards that can defend the three, stop dribble penetration, and get back to prevent fast break opportunities.


Evans, Evans, Evans

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | June 22, 2009 7:58 PM

The Wizards will never be able to stop anybody until they find some guards that can defend the three, stop dribble penetration, and get back to prevent fast break opportunities. After that, if they're really serious about defense they need a bigger SF. There aren't that many dominating PFs in the East. Other than Bosh and Garnett, I can't think of another eastern conf. PF significantly better than Jamison. The damage is coming from the wing players.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 22, 2009 7:37 PM


and that too...

Antwaan is a SF playing PF. I'm completely fine with him playing SF, but I need a PF to average 10+ rebounds a game, I'm sorry.

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 8:17 PM

Oh God, if they trade the #5 pick for Larry Hughes, I think I'll have to crawl into a cave for the next 4 years and try to forget that I ever cared about this team.

Not to belabor the obvious, but Hughes is well past his prime and would be a horrible addition at this stage. Overpriced, injury-prone to the extreme.. it was nice while it lasted, but those days are OVER. As painful as it was at the time, the Wizards obviously made the right move in letting him go. If you're going to bring back Hughes, why not bring back Muresan and Strickland while you're at it? Call it the throwback squad.

Posted by: satchmore | June 22, 2009 8:47 PM

Jamison says: "He reminds me of Vince Carter as a Tar Heel -- the build, the body and athleticism. He could've been a top pick if we didn't have the age limit. But he'll benefit from the veterans, and in two or three years, he can be a household name."

in 3 years AJ will be too old to be productive?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 22, 2009 8:50 PM

I like Jamison, but he ain't no GM. Ya know Jamison needs to concentrate less on young players earning there stripes and more on how veteran players win championships with young players.

But thats a trait that is imbodied in championship organizations, of which he has not been a part of yet.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 22, 2009 9:21 PM

Please don't listen to Jamison. Hopefully he's not even here. All he want to do is make sure he can secure his roll. He should be coming off the bench like he was in Dallas. He is strictly a shooter and I don't wan to hear about double doubles when he's just standing under the basket waiting for rebounds. Watch the film.

Posted by: rnbrown4 | June 22, 2009 9:32 PM

...He should be coming off the bench like he was in Dallas...

Posted by: rnbrown4 | June 22, 2009 9:32 PM


That makes two of us.

Do we have 3, tres , gimme gimme 3, needa 3, any takers, do I have any takers on 3!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 9:39 PM

Correction, Jamison has been apart of dem' championship Tarheels', but I was referring to hims NBA legacy.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 22, 2009 9:47 PM

It's funny how 1 year later, the ideas posted here are the same ones that I posted a long time ago.

* Sign and trade MeTawn.
* MeTawn should be the sixth man if he stays.
* David Lee should be considered in a trade.
* Gilby shouldn't get a max money contract.
* Les BouleS should have a pulled a trade for Raja Bell vice signing MeShawn.
* Dee Brown is worthless.
* EG should have resigned LH instead of letting him walk scott free.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 22, 2009 9:51 PM

DC_MAN88,

lemme be the first to Welcome you Back to the Future.

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 9:55 PM

"lemme be the first to Welcome you Back to the Future.

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 9:55 PM "

Unfortunately, the future has no original thoughts.

Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 22, 2009 10:12 PM

I know one thing Eddie Jordan's glad he's in Philly and not with that backstabbin no talent fraud of a "gm" in DC.

Posted by: dargregmag | June 22, 2009 10:24 PM

dargregmag,

U know...U gotta point; Who is the last Wizards draftee to make serviceable contributions to the team? We traded for our big three.

Who is the last draftee that we coached up into a solid, no, All-Star player?

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 10:29 PM

The 'zards hitting on a top 10 draft pick is like Me winning the lottery!

Will it eva happen???

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 10:37 PM

Every F-in time we draft in the top 10, for some reason it's always a weak crop of talent. That sh!t is frustrating!!!!!!

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 10:44 PM

Found some interesting footage of a scrimmage that took place in Sacramento yesterday. Toney Douglas (Florida State), Stephen Curry (Davidson), and Nick Calathes (Florida) versus Patrick Mills (St. Mary's), Jonny Flynn (Syracuse), and Tyreke Evans (Memphis).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b80npAYcwU

and part II at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhPPW4_HIlk

As you might expect, Evans shows an ability to shake a defender and get to the hoop at will. Curry shows an incredible shot.

Posted by: satchmore | June 22, 2009 11:35 PM

satchmore,

jus watched,...yea I reassure myself of Curry being the pick! Defense looked good, save for Evans drive, but a Center takes care of that.

Draft Curry, this guy will always be a threat to score 20+ pts a game, I mean is Gilbert gonna play a game for us or what? I won't bother asking for 'All Star' form right away either.

Curry Gone or we trade down? Take Evans period

Assuming Rubio and Thabeet are gone. If we come away this draft without at least Evans, we've failed! Unless Arenas returns to 'All Star form'

Sorry, I know, it's complicated. Don't doubt me though.

Posted by: Vicc | June 23, 2009 12:05 AM

Odd, I just watched both, and other than a great outside shot, I didn't see much from Curry. He got beat several times one on one, and wasn't able to alter the layup and both times when he made it to the basket, his shot was drastically altered. Once for a miss, and a second time for a teardrop that bounced in.

Evens, on the other hand, impressed me. He looked quicker than I remember, and his ball-handling ability look top-notch. He reminds me a lot of Larry Hughes coming out of college, only he's physically larger.

Posted by: segastyle | June 23, 2009 12:19 AM

Yeah, I'd say Evans has moved above Harden in my book. I'd be really happy with either Evans or Curry. I think Sacramento plans to take Evans, I know they were impressed by him - and rightfully so.

The one-on-one footage can be misleading. On a team of 5, Curry has a real advantage. Not in athleticism, but in shooting, passing, playmaking, etc. He's multi-dimensional, whereas Evans has more to learn.

Posted by: satchmore | June 23, 2009 12:20 AM

I also include that Curry got back on D very quick in transition; we'll teach him how to take a charge.

Posted by: Vicc | June 23, 2009 12:41 AM

Curry, Evans...Do we expect any of them to start? NO.

Posted by: Vicc | June 23, 2009 12:43 AM

I do like the idea of someone coming off the bench who is a threat to score 20+ points though. I bet he shoots free-throws well too. whoo? Curry!

I can see it now Flip...Curry coming off the bench, designing the plays, Curry coming off the screen,....Candy Coated Rain Drops! (shout) Hello Cleveland. Revenge is bitter sweet.

Posted by: Vicc | June 23, 2009 12:48 AM

Judging Jamison's comments, body language, and frustration from last year, i imagine his first choice for a pick would be NO pick.

He seems to dislike rookies, young players, guys who like to have fun, guys who are exciting, guys who can dunk, guys who can jump...

Posted by: superwilks | June 23, 2009 12:49 AM

One of Curry's best attributes, though, is that he doesn't come off like a rookie. He seems very humble, level-headed, intelligent - and confident. Maybe it's misleading, but he has the demeanor of a great player.

Apparently he's not interested in playing for Sacto.. but has shown interest in D.C. I know they're going to take Jordan Hill, but let me live this fantasy for a few days longer.

Posted by: satchmore | June 23, 2009 1:00 AM

Yea I suspect the 'zards are beginning to see the light on Jamison at PF...

How could I forget the 'blackhorse' Jordan Hill. EG, stay away from this journey-man please.

The thing is, I like Blatche at PF simply b/c he has vastly improved his game since the first time I saw him suit up for da Wiz. I think he has more potential for growth...

Posted by: Vicc | June 23, 2009 1:16 AM

Sacramento's Tyreke Evans workout...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaptU2Ezh2g&

Harden, Curry or this guy. Who says he can't shoot? Looked good to me. Of course only the floor was guarding him.

Posted by: original_mark | June 23, 2009 7:39 AM

Curry has one of the quickest releases out there. Like Dan Marino-quick.
The question we need to ask is who's gonna have an immediate impact. I can't see a rookie starting over NY or DS at the 2 guard. The minutes will come at the 6th man position probably. Curry fits that bill best. Of course, if Rubio is there we have to take him and trade him to the Knicks for the 8th pick and some other stuff. We might wind up with Curry or Evans at #8 along with LH or David Lee while jettisoning Etan or James. Of course, there's only 1 spot at th2 available and that would leave LH, NY and DS to battle it out. I can't see LH being happy off the bench while Gilbert is still starting.

Posted by: original_mark | June 23, 2009 7:45 AM

I saw where last night Thabeet cancelled out on a workout for Memphis. Reason listed was a shoulder injury. That's got me wondering some, since it came on the same day that Rubio's camp was sending out the message that his buyout was nearly complete.

My guess is Rubio could now be going #2 in some kind of trade, still thinking it could be the Knicks, moving up to get D'Antoni his guy and clear up Salary Cap room for next summer.

If Memphis trading down to the 8 was a nearly done deal, I can see Thabeet walking on the workout. I can see Memphis calling it off too. Will Thabeet now go third? Sounds like OK City had been boring in on Harden.

They've picked so many project centers, do they add another? Or do they go with the 3 man tandom they ended the year with?

Sure looks like Sacramento could be boring in on Curry and Evans. Every year there's a guy that unexpectedly shoots up the boards, and into the top 5, once workouts commence. This year it looks like Curry and Evans are those guys.

If OK City passes on Harden and takes Thabeet, I don't look for the Kings to take him, And I don't think they take Thabeet either. So it looks like we could be be watching for the OK City making the choice between Harden and Thabeet, and the Kings choosing between Curry and Evans.

The Wiz will come down to picking between the guys that looses out in both OK City and Sacramento. The Wiz will have the pick of the remaining two of these 4 guys(Harden,Thabeet, Evans, & Curry).

I really think OK City goes with Harden, Evans and Curry could be a tossup. My guess is it ends up being a choice between Thabeet and Evans for the Wiz.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see Larry and Jeffries back, but I don't think there's anyway Ernie's letting go of the 5th pick in a Larry Hughes/Jeffries for Etan/James deal.

If Ernie winds up picking big in the draft, Hughes could be useful at the two & provide another 3 baller, and Etan would have no role here. Jeffries is a useful vet, an excellent 8-12 guy that can fill a lot of roles, just don't expect him to be a consistant scorer.

With the addition of Hughes, James would have no role here, so getting Jeffries for James would improve the bench depth and give Flip a guy that can defend three different positions.

Flip loves really long guys in the semi zone defense he likes to play, so he'll find a use for Jeffries. I remember when LaBron was a rookie, Jeffries gave him fits in short stretches. The projected roster would give Flip a lot of guys to throw at "The Winner".

The Knicks get an additional contract off the books next summer and James will score 10+ per game in D'Antoni's offense taking passes from Rubio. So the deal has some upside for the Knicks too.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | June 23, 2009 8:36 AM

No way I would trade Rubio if he drops to us. He is going to be special.

Posted by: yop32 | June 23, 2009 8:41 AM

"Harden, Curry or this guy. Who says he can't shoot? Looked good to me. Of course only the floor was guarding him.Posted by: original_mark"

Your perception's correct -- Evans is a good shooter. Except for 3 pointers. Curry's advantage is a remarkable ability to get his shot off when closely defended. Harden's the closest thing to a complete player in the bunch.

Like the commentator said on ESPN this AM, teams (other than the Clips) haven't yet decided who they're going to pick. They've just narrowed the choice down to two or three players and will wait til the last minute to finalize it. The Wiz apparently won't be successful in their pursuit of a trade, because their trade partners are demanding Butler.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 8:43 AM

"No way I would trade Rubio if he drops to us. He is going to be special.Posted by: yop32"

I think so too, after a period of development. He doesn't show well in individual workouts, the way an Evans or a Harden would. I'm not certain he's ideally suited to the NBA game -- he's too much of a team player. But when you see players like Rubio, you understand how Europe caught up with the US in international play. Their concept of play is more like what you see in top college programs where selfishness gets you a seat on the bench instead of a multi-million dollar contract.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 8:47 AM

Rubio is Luke Ridnour with a Pistol Pete haircut. He's not terrible but not special, either.

Posted by: original_mark | June 23, 2009 9:13 AM

...He should be coming off the bench like he was in Dallas...

Posted by: rnbrown4 | June 22, 2009 9:32 PM


That makes two of us.

Do we have 3, tres , gimme gimme 3, needa 3, any takers, do I have any takers on 3!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 9:39 PM

Ideally, yes, he should be coming off the bench, to better mask his defensive shortcomings. The problem is, the Wizards don't have anyone who deserves to start at 4 in front of him.

Posted by: rbpalmer | June 23, 2009 9:15 AM

"Rubio is Luke Ridnour with a Pistol Pete haircut. He's not terrible but not special, either."

He's better than Ridnour, but you're not too far off. Now factor in the fact that he's only 18, and he's a right handed player who has been playing with a broken right wrist.

He needs strength and a better J, but the NBA has a proven track record with fixing those deficiencies in 18 year olds.

Lack of explosiveness is an issue, but his all-world anticipation ability will make up for a lot.

Posted by: yop32 | June 23, 2009 9:47 AM

The one guy that will immediately make the Bullets better is Stephon Curry. Think about Rip Hamiltoon when he first came out of UCONN, The Bullets never should have traded Rip but we have one in the making if Grunfeld choses Curry

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | June 23, 2009 9:48 AM

"what does that have to do with basketball."

It has a lot to do with basketball insofar as it's indicative of a mindset whereby he seems willing to the least amount of work he can get away with in order to get by, which is a pretty succinct description of his shortcomings as a player.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 22, 2009 5:16 PM

kalo im so sick of you trying to correct everyone and thinking you know everything about the game of basketball. you probably never played in your entire life. If you have the instincts to play basketball then you can play. The mental part of the game comes with good coaching and hard work. And whoever brought up the story of nick yonug flunking out of high school, get a grip..he made it hes a millionaire and now he can provide for his family. I hope he continues to work hard so he can prove to you all that he is going to be a star.

so Kalo...unless uve played the game (organized) ull never know what your talking about

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 23, 2009 9:52 AM

"He's better than Ridnour"

Yes, he is. The big difference is in the defense. Rubio works hard at it. Ridnour struggles with his quickness.

Be interesting to see how Rubio's career turns out.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 10:06 AM

"So he gets only one inch higher when running as opposed to standing still? That's doubtful to me. If it's true, then he's got pogo sticks for legs and he should be a better rebounder."

Well, that's the point I've been making. Either the numbers are wrong or Nick is one of those rare leapers who don't require a run-up.

Nick shoots the fadeaway as if it's some sort of neurotic tic. Vince Carter got into the same habit for a while, although he seems to have shaken it off. A scorer with that sort of ability who chooses not to go to the basket is denying himself (and his team) a whole bunch of fouls and free throws.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 10:18 AM

"so Kalo...unless uve played the game (organized) ull never know what your talking aboutPosted by: jasperhneyaolcom"

I'm afraid there are a lot of former players who don't know what they're talking about.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 10:20 AM

"so Kalo...unless uve played the game (organized) ull never know what your talking about"

And unless/until you learn to speak/read/type in something approximating English, I'll never know what you're talking about. Of course the upside is that I don't really give a flying f&#k what you're talking about, so it's all good.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 11:29 AM

"Think about Rip Hamiltoon when he first came out of UCONN."

I think he was 6' 7" coming out of UConn. I think he won a national title coming out of UConn. I think he was named MVP of the tournament coming out of UConn. I don't think Stephen Curry was/did any of those things.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 11:35 AM

"A scorer with that sort of ability who chooses not to go to the basket is denying himself (and his team) a whole bunch of fouls and free throws."

Exactly. I can live with Young not playing defense or passing the ball to wide open teammates, because it's clear those aren't part of his skill/mindset. But his failure to get the most out of his offensive talent by taking the easy (fadea)way out goes to the heart of him not maximizing the one skill he has that could actually help the team.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 11:39 AM

I'll never know what you're talking about. Of course the upside is that I don't really give a flying f&#k what you're talking about, so it's all good.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 11:29 AM

ur an idiot point blank. and just because you can use a few vocab words on an informal washington post sports link, still doesnt mean you understand the game of basketball.in conclusion: nick young flunking out of high school doesnt have anything to do with him as a player, if you got it you got it, if u dont then u dont

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 23, 2009 12:49 PM

I hope they trade down and draft James Johnson out of Wake -- he looks ready to play!

Posted by: elwyn | June 23, 2009 3:50 PM

"Every F-in time we draft in the top 10, for some reason it's always a weak crop of talent. That sh!t is frustrating!!!!!!

Posted by: Vicc | June 22, 2009 10:44 PM "

Didn't stop other teams from drafting Pau Gasol, Kevin Garnett, AI, Josh Smith, David West, Barbosa, Ariza, Josh Howard, Tayshaun Prince, Boozer, Scola, Joe Johnson, or Tony Parker.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 23, 2009 6:46 PM

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