More From Butler, Grunfeld ... And McGee

In addition to discussing the trade rumors that have been surrounding him all summer, Wizards forward Caron Butler also discussed yesterday his desire to see just how far the team can go with its core players together for a full season.

"It's important to get everybody back healthy," Butler said at his free basketball camp for about 110 kids at Trinity College in Northeast yesterday. "Brendan Haywood, myself, DeShawn [Stevenson], Gilbert [Arenas], Antawn [Jamison] and hopefully we can make a run at this thing. That's the plan. We have a window of opportunity that we have to capitalize on. We only had the opportunity to go once, at full strength. We made it to the playoffs and got knocked off by Cleveland [in six games in 2006]. We got to get back full strength and see what we can do."

Butler said he hasn't monitored the draft too closely, but that he is confident that the Wizards can find a good player -- either with the fifth pick or the veteran player they get for the fifth pick.

"Anything can happen, so you pray for the best and hope we get the best player available or get the best situation we could possibly have happen for us. I know Ernie [Grunfeld], Milt [Newton], Coach [Flip] Saunders are working hard right now to make a great decision and a wise decision for the future of this organization to get us some help, because I feel like we're right there. I hope we get a great player."

He added that Wizards shouldn't worry about trying to address a need if they keep the pick: "You go for the best players. One of the things I saw in Miami is we could've drafted for a position and we drafted the best player at the time and that was Dwyane Wade at the fifth pick and look what he's become."

I asked yesterday what the Wizards would do if Ricky Rubio slipped to five. Grunfeld said that even though Rubio and Hasheem Thabeet didn't work out for the Wizards, it would be no problem if one or them slipped down to No. 5.

"We've seen enough of them all to know what we need to do," Grunfeld said. "Last year, we drafted JaVale McGee and he never worked out for us, that never stopped us from drafting someone. Having someone in for a workout is just a small part of the scouting process."

I forgot to mention that JaVale McGee stopped by to help Butler at his camp yesterday. I asked McGee what his goals are this offseason. "I'm working hard in the weight room trying to get bigger," he said.

McGee told me that his goal is to add 15 pounds this summer. McGee played at 240 last season and said that he is already halfway to his goal.

Also, the Wizards will be one of 21 teams participating in the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas. The Wizards will play six games from July 14-19 at UNLV. They will play Cleveland, Denver, Minnesota, the Los Angeles Clippers and New York.

By Michael Lee |  June 23, 2009; 9:24 AM ET
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Posted by: Gooddad | June 23, 2009 9:46 AM

I agree with Caron. I think the wiz should take the best player available if they keep the pick. They don't need to mortgage the future for a run now either. They can make a run now and later as the pups mature.

Posted by: G-Man11 | June 23, 2009 9:50 AM

The Wizards seem to be the team everyone is looking at with regards to this draft. All other teams are intent on drafting specific players whereas its pretty much a given that the Wizards are shopping the #5 pick so whatever we do impacts everone else drafting after us. I kinda like this position - the Wizards being in control. Let's hope we don't blow it.

Posted by: blackman1 | June 23, 2009 9:53 AM

The Bullets need to draft Stephon Curry, he is a lot like Rip Hamilton with a smoother stroke and better ball handling skills...

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | June 23, 2009 9:55 AM

that starting 5 is good enough tho to compete with anyone. If anyone can remember the issue with the wizards was depth. Well in the last 3 years, the players we drafted were supposed to address those needs. however due to injury those players were playing starting roles. well with the experience the last two seasons and getting our players healthy i think the wizards are a force to be reckoned with. Maybe an energy player off the bench and a sharp shooter that would ice the cake. if only if kirelinko wasnt making 14 mill...hed b perfect along with a mike miller coming off the bench draining three's would be great..hurrrrrrrrry thursday!

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 23, 2009 10:06 AM

I agree. The closer the draft gets I think the club should take Curry if available and pass on Jordan Hill and a trade for a veteran.

No one right now is being dangled out there that is really going to improve this team in a way that will move Washington into contender status.

Butler is right, the chemistry might work out with Curry and Arenas on the court at the same time, or using Curry in a rotation to start off with, and if that's the case you have a much cheaper option to improve your club given what his rookie contract is going to look like.

Posted by: leopard09 | June 23, 2009 10:11 AM

The sad part about Javale's enthusiam and goal to get "bigger", is that I'm almost positive Andray has never said anything similar. Shows what kind of background both of them come from. Lemonhead baby!!!

Posted by: BurgwithaU | June 23, 2009 10:13 AM

Does anyone understand if the Wizards draft Curry guys like Kobe, Wade, RIP, and other tall 2 guards are going to post him up all day long? He is 6' 3"!

Caron, Miami drafted the best player...Dwayne Wade with the fifth pick and look what he's become. Caron, that’s why they traded you because they didn't need you anymore, they upgraded by drafting Wade.

Does anyone understand the game of basketball in this organization? Look at the past champions you can't have 3 players who play the same style and make it work. What this team lacks is a shooting guard who can stand outside the three point line and wait till the defense collapses on the driving player (as long as he is willing to dish the ball out) and hit open jump shots. Do the names Steve Kerr, Daniel Gibson, Ray Allen, and Derek Fisher ring a bell?

It’s a team sport people you win a championship by playing team basketball and putting the right pieces together not by putting 5 athletes on the floor and letting them do whatever they want.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 23, 2009 10:22 AM

flohrtv,

Hughes' salary is roughly the sum of Etan + James. So if Wiz trades for Hughes, it is unlikely they will get Jeffries as well, unless they throw something else into the deal.

As for Jeffries, he can be traded with Mike James straight up (James only has a year left while Jeffries has tow, so Knicks may be tempted).

Posted by: sagaliba | June 23, 2009 10:24 AM

I'm in agreement about Curry and the makeup of the team, but my only concern is the logjam created in the backcourt. I believe, if selected, Curry should play and be an integral part of the offense, but there's Stevenson and Crittendon. And for some reason, the team likes Deshawn. Any thoughts?

Posted by: chadnclinton | June 23, 2009 10:31 AM

" Steve Kerr, Daniel Gibson, Ray Allen, and Derek Fisher ring a bell?"

Kerr, Gibson and Fisher are point guards (neither is taller than 6-1), not shooting guards, who have succeeded because they are great shooters playing next to a superstar (LeBron, Kobe, MJ, Shaq, Duncan) that draws so much attention it creates open shots. Kerr was released by the expansion Orlando Magic before arriving in Chicago to take over the John Paxson role. If Curry is Ray Allen, which he is not, they should draft him.
Wiz need someone who can get a defensive reboound when it counts. Jamison needs to be the sixth man. Gil needs to be healthy.
Just too many 'ifs' ...

Posted by: BigWesGoingToTakeA | June 23, 2009 10:38 AM

CRITTENTON
CRITTENTON
CRITTENTON

...now type it 97 more times.

I used to let it go, but I can't stand everyone misspelling CRITTENTON all the time. Not singling one person out, just the multitude of people that do not know how CRITTENTON is spelled.

Sorry, carry on.

Posted by: arenasmvp | June 23, 2009 10:42 AM

Bulletsfan78,
With all due respect, CB was traded along with Lamar Odom and Brian Grant to LA to get Shaq. Caron was only in his second year at that point I think and well, it was for Shaq!!
You weren't going to get Shaq for a ham sandwich especially with his $20 mil a year contract...

Posted by: bozomoeman | June 23, 2009 10:42 AM

Does anyone understand if the Wizards draft Curry guys like Kobe, Wade, RIP, and other tall 2 guards are going to post him up all day long? He is 6' 3"!


Thats why he'd be playing point. Move Gil to 2 where he belongs.

Posted by: jfwil | June 23, 2009 10:46 AM

bozomoeman

I agree, explain it to Caron because he doesn't understand what it takes to build a TEAM. The reason Miami traded for Shaq was because they understood he was the missing piece to get them a championship.

jfwil

Having Gil guard the 2 spot creates a bigger void since he plays no defense at all?

Please people go back and look at the past championship teams...they all had the right parts...if you have a Kobe or a MJ you can live with a point guard who can shot 3's if you don't then you need a taller 2 guard who can play defense and yesBigWesGoingToTakeA the team needs a true power forward.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 23, 2009 10:55 AM

The Wizards have gotten at least 10 offers for the pick, but every team I spoke with that's in the draft was still in the dark about where they stood. The Knicks have offered Larry HughesMike Miller. The Celtics would give them Ray Allen. The Rockets would give them Tracy McGrady and Carl Landry. The Bucks would send them Richard Jefferson. The Nets would entertain unloading Vince Carter. The Suns could do something with Shaq. The Blazers could part ways with Steve Blake, Jerryd Bayless or Travis Outlaw. The question is: Are any of those offers good enough for the No. 5 pick? In most year's, no. But this year, with the Wizards thinking they're poised to make a deep playoff run? It might be enough. for Thomas and James. The Wolves have reportedly offered

-Chad Ford

Posted by: arenasmvp | June 23, 2009 10:59 AM

The sad part about Javale's enthusiam and goal to get "bigger", is that I'm almost positive Andray has never said anything similar. Shows what kind of background both of them come from.

From reports I've read Flip has been extremely impressed with Blatche's workouts on the court and in the weight room. Obviously, he could be putting on a show for the new coach, but it sounds promising to me.

Posted by: OffseasonChamps | June 23, 2009 11:00 AM

bulletsfan78, Fortunately, it's a two way game and those same guys that want to post him up would have to chase him around screens, etc.

Posted by: original_mark | June 23, 2009 11:04 AM

Posted by: OffseasonChamps | June 23, 2009 11:04 AM

Curry at #5 then take a guy who likes to bang and rebound in round 2. DaJuan Summers???

Posted by: t-train | June 23, 2009 11:05 AM

I'm dreading us walking away with J. Jeffries and Hughes from the Knicks or some other bunk trade. We have the fifth pick, it should be exciting, we should get some fresh blood to help revitalize the team after its (tied for) worst season ever. Why do I have a nagging suspicion that we'll walk away with some mediocre known quantity, while some other team grabs the next Dwayne Wade or Derrick Rose at our spot? Or that we'll just walk away with some dumped contracts that Grunny should have never signed to begin with. The stakes are high for Grunfeld, who has locked us into so many bad contracts and players who have already peaked / have injury histories that he needs to either bring in a blockbuster veteran with that pick, or make the right choice at 5 to keep his job. I fear that he'll just bring in a couple of dull, aging vets, try to show progress with a couple more wins and keep his job. Our team is desperate Grunfeld, we have been awful for three decades and just suffered our worst season ever (and were dull to watch to boot). Swing for the fences with Evans, Derozan, Curry or, if they fall to us, Rubio or Thabeet.

Posted by: SammyT1 | June 23, 2009 11:12 AM

sagaliba,
I would thing the wiz could package another guy in the mix to make the deal work. Etan also has that monster trade kicker which makes the deal come closer to working.

Pecherov might actually fit in under D'Antoni's system anyway. And he's not under contract past this season, so he fits what the Knicks are looking for. The Wiz could replace him with the second rd pick filling a roster spot.

I'm not one of the guys that dreams these things up on the ESPN trade machine. The outlines of this deal have been circulating since the Knicks picked up Hughes before the trade deadline.

The idea that the Wiz would in anyway consider sending along the 5th pick, or even swapping picks, for a deal built around Hughes/Jeffries is almost as funny as the deals that the Wiz are supposed to be making with Cleveland.

This deal would help the Knicks in their quest to clear salary space for next summer. It also leaves Chandler, Lee, and Robinson, available for another deal.

I still think the Knicks are working on moving up to the two to get Rubio. Memphis is going to want young assets in return. I don't think Hughes/Jeffries will help the knicks get that deal done.

Thabeet's cancelled workout could be an injury, or it could signal something's happening at the second pick. I smell a deal.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | June 23, 2009 11:14 AM

Anyone who talks about Dajuan Summers being a guy who will bang for rebounds obviously has not had the frustrating experience of watching him for a couple of years.

That was the #1 criticism of him at G'Town, he did not mix it up in the paint enough for his build.

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 23, 2009 11:27 AM

Larry Hughes or Richard Jefferson would be a nice fit. Heck, Mikey Miller would be nice too. Just get this team back on track Grunfeld or there'll be more Fire Ernie t-shirts to be had.

Posted by: t-train | June 23, 2009 11:31 AM

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 11:32 AM

I'll say again (and probably every day leading up to Thursday's draft), stay away from Curry. He's a shooter, for sure, but he's a huge defensive liability, which is obviously something this team doesn't need, considering the sieves it has at PG and PF.

Posted by: CDon | June 23, 2009 11:34 AM

theres some teams that we havent really heard about to inquire for our pick..

i think houstons carl landry and shane battier wouldnt be a bad decision either. Remember butler was an up and coming player when he was traded for from LA and Jamison was a 6th man when he was traded for, from dallas. I think that carl landry can provide some inside toughness of the bench the wizards need, along with some energy, and then we can address our needs for a spot up shooter off the bench as well. our starting 5 is pretty solid with:

-arenas
-stevenson/young
-butler
-jamison
-haywood

energy off the bench with
critt
young/stevenson
mguire
landry**
blatche/mcgee

but my question to yall is..is landry worth the 5th pick overall..? or do we trade down and pick landry up later in the first round?

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 23, 2009 11:35 AM

but if houston wants the 5th pick overall then they gotta take etan/mike and at least songalia, we can take landry and maybe maybe maybeee a von wafer or carl lowry

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 23, 2009 11:38 AM

It's a good bet that any deal Houston is looking to make would involve unloading McGrady.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 11:41 AM

flohrtv ,

I know you didn't dream it up. :) But sometimes, several different scenarios are floating around, and can be mixed up. According to this site, "trade talks with Washington involving Larry Hughes are accurate only from the standpoint that Jared Jeffries isn't involved." http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/15690147?source=rss_blogs_NBA

Besides, trade kicker or not, I don't think Wiz is interesting in taking in more salary (Hughes + Jeffries = 20 mil, while Etan + James = 13.8 mil, the difference is more than 6 millions). Even if you dump O-Pec's 1.5 mil, you are still left with 4.5 mil additional salary (which can be doubled due to luxury tax). So I don't think it is likely Wiz will trade for both Hughes and Jefferies unless they give up some player combination that worth 6 millions!

However, I think Hughes or Jeffries trade is possible if taken separately (i.e., either-or).

BTW, I like Houston's Carl Landry, but don't think he worth the #5 straight up.

Posted by: sagaliba | June 23, 2009 11:43 AM

To "bulletsfan" Derek Fisher is not a knockdown shooter. Most coaches would live with him shooting from the outside. As far as what the Wizards need, it is simple, a strong comittment to play defense. Play Butler at small forward, make Jamison the sixth man, bench Stevenson, start Nick Young.And last but not least, a healthy Gilbert Arenas

Posted by: plewjam | June 23, 2009 11:46 AM

We would be STUPID not to get Lawson, Curry, or Maynor. Every teams point guard BURNS us and we almost always LOSE to teams with quality point guards...ala...Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Deron Williams, Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson, Louis Williams & Andre Miller, Derrick Rose, Mike Bibby etc.,

We will also have to contend with the teams that get Lawson, Curry, Maynor, Jonny Flynn, A.J. Price, Tyreke Evans, Demar DeRozan, Sherron Collins, Jrue Holiday, etc.,

What good is a big man if you can’t get him the ball??? Of course, if Thabeet falls to us and we can get 4 more blocks and 12 altered shots a game...hmmm...we would still need a top notch Shooter, Ball handler, and Passer (sorry Stevenson, Crittenton, and James; none of you can do all three, and only Crit can handle.)

Posted by: liveride | June 23, 2009 12:09 PM

It's a shame Ernie didn't tell ETaps to play the young guys like AB, NY, Critt, and JM to see if they could really play. Who knows maybe AB could play PF and AJ moves to the 6th man spot.

It's too late now, so it's still a guessing game for this organization!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 23, 2009 12:11 PM

We also lose to teams with quality Cs, quality SGs, quality SFs, and quality PFs.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 12:12 PM

"I'm in agreement about Curry and the makeup of the team, but my only concern is the logjam created in the backcourt. I believe, if selected, Curry should play and be an integral part of the offense, but there's Stevenson and Crittendon. And for some reason, the team likes Deshawn. Any thoughts?Posted by: chadnclinton"

Yes -- mainly that a logjam is not much of a worry. Curry's an outside shooter, Crittendon's a big PG, and Stevenson is the only perimeter defender in the group. They're not really interchangeable. Depending on need, Arenas' partner in the 3 guard rotation could switch from game to game until somebody established himself.

The problem is Nick Young. If Curry is the star many here think, then Nick is dispensable. Given Gilbert's health, Young is probably less necessary than a backup PG. But he's so talented that the GM would probably worry about him blossoming somewhere else and making everybody look bad.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 12:24 PM

"From reports I've read Flip has been extremely impressed with Blatche's workouts on the court and in the weight room"

Blatche took a lot of criticism last year for playing soft, and I suspect it stung. He'll be stronger this year, but I don't know if he'll be any tougher.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 12:32 PM

"Yes -- mainly that a logjam is not much of a worry. Curry's an outside shooter, Crittendon's a big PG, and Stevenson is the only perimeter defender in the group."

I'm in agreement with all but the last part. Crittenton showed some definite defensive potential last season but, like every other part of his game, it's a still a work in progress.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 12:35 PM

Any trade of the No. 5 pick along with Caron for a veteran sets this team back. He's the only tough, hardnosed player among the starters (unless you count DSteve who may not be a starter again.) With all of the soft players we have on this team, trading our best all-around player who is only 29 makes no sense if we're trying to make a deep playoff run.

As for our No. 5 draft pick, I see a lot of teams dangling veterans with a limited shelf life or one year left to FA. None of the options mentioned by Chad Ford are very enticing IMO. I'd still be holding out for trading the No. 5 plus ET's contract for a strong veteran who can play the 4 or 5. A trade down with the Knicks that nets us David Lee still looks like a good option to me.

People asking for us to trade for Larry Hughes seem to forget that he's played over 70 games only once in his career. He was hurt every year with the Wiz even on the 2004-2005 team that went to the 2nd round....there's also a reason why EG let JJ leave as a FA three years ago. He adds nothing to this team except as decent defender off the bench.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 23, 2009 12:38 PM

What about trading for Barbosa? Whadoyathink?

Posted by: photoassign | June 23, 2009 12:50 PM

We also lose to teams with quality Cs, quality SGs, quality SFs, and quality PFs.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 12:12 PM

whoa your bright, of course teams with quality at those positions would make them better than us..

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 23, 2009 12:53 PM

Trade for another top ten pick and say Goodbye to Etan, Pecherov, Juan, James (we may have to pay someone to take his 6mil salary), and DeShawn (unless he’s found his game which was lost last year - was he injured and is now healed???).

Posted by: liveride | June 23, 2009 12:55 PM

I don't think any of the offers Chad Ford mentions will entice Ernie. There isn't a desperation around the Wiz that some writers/reporters ascribe to them. Ernie also knows the offers will get better as the draft approaches, so I think he'll sit tight and make a trade when the Wiz are on the clock, and a team he's talked to before decides to sweeten the pot by throwing in a solid bench player or taking a bad contract.

And I continue to believe that if he does keep the pick, he'll draft an experienced college player.

Posted by: keithward64 | June 23, 2009 12:59 PM

The Point Guard and Center positions were our two biggest holes last season. Having our center back is Huge. Intelligent Defensive intensity from the team, along with a Point Guard with All-Star potential (Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor) or 3 point shooting of 48% or better (Stephen Curry ~ who is 6'3" and brings Ball Handling and assists potential and the ability to foul out opposing guards). It would be nice to get 40 foul shots a game because of your offensive potential, or teams can just let him get Six 3's per game on 10 shots.

Posted by: liveride | June 23, 2009 1:02 PM

"then take a guy who likes to bang and rebound in round 2. DaJuan Summers???"

Please tell me this was a joke?

Summers is the softest player around. Did you watch a single game of his at Gtown? All he does is stand behind the arc and shoot 3's. He refuses to go in the paint and he definitely doesn't rebound or bang.

Posted by: beas13 | June 23, 2009 1:03 PM

"Who knows maybe AB could play PF and AJ moves to the 6th man spot."

f'n nuts

I want to see AB have a home @ the 4 but no way does he beat out Jamison. That is not to say that Jamison couldn't be a great and important 6th man, but only if we traded for an all-star caliber defensive specialist to start @ the 4.

Posted by: photoassign | June 23, 2009 1:03 PM

could u guys post any espn insider/chad ford rumours and not just provide the links, since many of us dont have access to it...thanks

Posted by: jasonma1 | June 23, 2009 1:10 PM

• New Wolves GM David Kahn might have the busiest cell phone in America right now. He's apparently trying to get either the No. 2 pick from Memphis or the No. 5 pick from Washington, and is offering combinations that involve most of his players (per Draft Express), save for Kevin Love and Al Jefferson. (Dude also needs to hire a coach.)

Posted by: photoassign | June 23, 2009 1:13 PM

In the paper today, Mike mentioned that Portland has inquired about the availability of Caron. I don't think the article mentioned that they are interested in the 5th pick. But Portland has a lot of nice pieces that might improve the wiz even if Caron is involved in the trade. For instance, Aldridge would be a real upgrade, and either Outlaw or Webster could fill the vacancy at the 3.

What say y'all?

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | June 23, 2009 1:15 PM

Blatche took a lot of criticism last year for playing soft, and I suspect it stung. He'll be stronger this year, but I don't know if he'll be any tougher.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 12:32 PM

Or smarter. Blatche consistently commits some of the stupidest fouls I've ever seen. He may be the NBA's first pathological fouler.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 23, 2009 1:18 PM

Etan Thomas $7,354,500
Mike James $6,466,600
DeShawn Stevenson $3,883,929

Move these salaries, and we are good. I'll take anybody other than these 3. How about 2 of these guys and the 5th pick to the Knicks for Lee, someone else (salary purposes) and the 8th pick. Take T. Evens with the 8th.

Posted by: tischmid | June 23, 2009 1:19 PM

my, my, my. ESPN throwing around some pretty big names! My preference would be the (alleged) offer that Portland is offering. Blake, Bayless and Outalw would give us a really good bench.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 23, 2009 1:23 PM

"Having someone in for a workout is just a small part of the scouting process." -Ernie Grunfeld

I always wondered why the Post was so obsessed with who does workouts for the Wiz. As if you're going to draft someone because they had one solid workout, or as if you're going to not draft someone because they didn't have a good workout. Or, comically, as if you wouldn't draft someone because they didn't do a workout for you.

Posted by: Barno1 | June 23, 2009 1:39 PM

Richard Jefferson was just traded to the spurs for Bowen, Oberto, and Kurt Thomas. Can someone explain to me why the only rumors we hear are ridiculous trades of AJ to Cavs for wallace and sasha, or bring back jeffries or hughes??? Is it me or is Deshawn, James, and Etan just as good if not better deal for Bucks? Instead we hear about packaging these bad deals with the number 5 pick to get someone. This is why Pop is the best. Does EG even inquire about these kind of deals? They happen all the time. Look at the Gasol, KG, and now RJ deals.

Posted by: CC12 | June 23, 2009 1:42 PM

Aldridge plus Portland’s 6’3” Jerryd Bayless and we keep out 5th pick would be a deal worth taking.

Posted by: liveride | June 23, 2009 1:52 PM

Yes, David Lee for Etan and James would be a great choice for us, if we could do it and swap our 5th pick for their 8th so we could get Eric Maynor or Ty Lawson (you know they will take Stephen Curry who will torch us 4x a year).

Posted by: liveride | June 23, 2009 1:55 PM

That deal is basically a salary dump for the Bucks, since all of the Spurs players have expiring contracts, so the Bucks wouldn't have wanted any part of Stevenson (or anyone else with a deal that went past next season). That being said, Grunfeld probably could have done that deal with all expiring contracts but there's no reason he would have, since the Wizards already have a starting SF who's just as good as Jefferson in Butler. Neither one of them is really a full-time SG, so they can't necessarily start together, and it's unlikely either would adjust/respond well to a bench role.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 2:02 PM

Is it me or is Deshawn, James, and Etan just as good if not better deal for Bucks?

Posted by: CC12 | June 23, 2009 1:42 PM

It's you.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 23, 2009 2:02 PM

"Aldridge plus Portland’s 6’3” Jerryd Bayless and we keep out 5th pick would be a deal worth taking."

So would Pech for Lebron. Both are equally as likely.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 23, 2009 2:03 PM

"then take a guy who likes to bang and rebound in round 2. DaJuan Summers???"

Please tell me this was a joke?

Summers is the softest player around. Did you watch a single game of his at Gtown? All he does is stand behind the arc and shoot 3's. He refuses to go in the paint and he definitely doesn't rebound or bang.


Posted by: beas13 | June 23, 2009 1:03 PM

did you? complacent maybe but not soft. summers will be a decent pick in the 2nd for someone. he's mcguire with more offense. analysts were comparing his games to Lebron's at the beginning of last year til wright and freeman "took over". Summers is a combo 2/3 i wouldn't expect him to be a banger, but that doesn't mean he's soft.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 23, 2009 2:08 PM

This is why Pop is the best. Does EG even inquire about these kind of deals? They happen all the time. Look at the Gasol, KG, and now RJ deals.

Posted by: CC12 | June 23, 2009 1:42 PM

You can't be serious. Ernie Grunfeld is universally considered one of the best GMs in basketball. And of course he inquires about those kinds of deals, and has made a couple of those kinds of deals already in his few years with the Wizards. All Star Jamison for 5th pick + bad contracts. All Star Butler for the worst draft pick in NBA history.

Posted by: Barno1 | June 23, 2009 3:03 PM

That 5th pick was Devin Harris who would look pretty good in DC right now. Sent Stack with that pick also who was a pretty big contributor on the Mavs team that went to the finals. That is not a lopsided deal.

Posted by: CC12 | June 23, 2009 3:42 PM

did you? complacent maybe but not soft. "summers will be a decent pick in the 2nd for someone. he's mcguire with more offense. analysts were comparing his games to Lebron's at the beginning of last year til wright and freeman "took over". Summers is a combo 2/3 i wouldn't expect him to be a banger, but that doesn't mean he's soft."

Well lilhollywood you are obviously clueless. Summers has a ton of upside/talent but he is as SOFT as they come. If you think he is anything like Lebron or Mcguire you have obviously never seen him play. If anyone ever compared him to Lebron they are retarded! Mcguire is actually tough and rebounds. Summers doesn't go anywhere inside the arc. He isn't coming back to Gtown b/c JT3 didn't want him back. LAZY and SOFT perfect description for summers.

Posted by: beas13 | June 23, 2009 3:50 PM

WTF Ernie? We could have traded DSteve, Mike James, & ET for Richard Jefferson? Why the h&ll didn't you make that deal? Then #5 & Song for Amare....)can still happen.) would have been a GREAT move and postion us for years to come. Get on the phone Ernie, the deal is in principle, make it happen.

Posted by: Gooddad | June 23, 2009 3:55 PM

"Aldridge would be a real upgrade, and either Outlaw or Webster could fill the vacancy at the 3. What say y'all? Posted by: ZardsFan1"

I say, why would the Blazers trade Aldridge? They have nobody to replace him. Who would they draft -- Jordan Hill? DaJuan Blair? Aldridge is better, at both PF and spot center.

Somebody was talking about pogo stick players -- guys whose standing and running vertical are almost the same (Nick Young is one). Greg Oden is another -- there's only a two inch difference. If he's ever healthy, Oden could be a real force without moving have to move his feet that much. Combine a 9'4" standing reach with a 32* no-step vertical leap, and you'll make an impact on defense.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 4:26 PM

"he's mcguire with more offense"

Summers? I don't see that at all. McGuire is mainly about effort and persistence, not raw ability. Summers is fine as long as he's bigger and faster than his man. But in the pros, he won't be.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 23, 2009 4:29 PM

It looks like the wiz are going to get what they missed in the lotery night.There is a more than 50% chance that rubino might slip to #5.Memphis already gave up, tunders are taking harden.Sacramento is still hesitating to give up good players like evans and other good point gards with great experiance and decide to pay 500,000 extra money.They are not sure if he could take them to the next level.
The point is what about the wiz? EG is going to tak him and get a good draft night market out of him.Portland,Boston,Pistons and even LA will need a point gard like rubino.EG would love to get both ariza and Odom on a sign and trade deal.LA woud not mind to get Ny and/or blache with the bad contract.
Let us wait. There will be more exiting senarios in the trade dead line for wizard.
No need to rash to get jeferis and Larry for 45 games a year.

Posted by: gtefferra | June 23, 2009 5:03 PM

I think the Spurs just put themselves at the top of the Western Conference again. Great deal for them. Jefferson is a great 3/4 option offensively, which the Spurs have struggled with last couple of seasons especially after a Parker or Manu go down to injury.

As for the Wiz, all the completely random speculation in here is quite amusing. I doubt we keep the pick and have doubted it since we lost the lottery. If we do, I like Harden the most and am starting to come around on Curry ever so slightly. But, with all those deals circulating, someone will sweeten the pot just a little and the pick is gone. I'd say a 10% chance of actually keeping the pick if this were Oddsmakers on PTI.

Posted by: rphilli721 | June 23, 2009 5:16 PM

I'm not sure about this love affair with Curry... I thought he was a great college player but I think the hype may far exceed his ability to transition to the NBA game. Doubt many would pick Juan Dixon at #5, so why Curry?

I think it's likely the Wiz trade but doubt the trade will happen until draft day and people see who is on the board when the Wiz pick.

Posted by: HollywoodPlayboy | June 23, 2009 6:17 PM

I think le bulez should trade pesh, stevenson and #5 pick to NY for DLee, we need rebounds and points from other than the Big 3 and he is young too

Posted by: fromeka | June 23, 2009 6:26 PM

Ernie needs to breakup the big 3 or move them to their natural positions. Caron is a 2 and Jamison is a 3. If you're not going to do this then trade 1 or both. The 5th pick should be Curry. People are going to be surprised with the improved play of Blatche, Young and McGee under Flip. Hopefully Jamison won't have as much influence.
gil/curry
caron/young
mcguire
blatche/jamison
haywood/mcgee
critt
song
daye if available in 2nd
the rest can go

Posted by: rnbrown4 | June 23, 2009 7:48 PM

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