Poll: Who's the Favorite?
Will the trades that sent Shaquille O'Neal to Cleveland and Vince Carter to Orlando shift the balance of power in the NBA?
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Alexa Steele
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June 25, 2009; 5:57 PM ET
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Posted by: Lipty | June 25, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse
"You're getting confused, that was your argument. My argument was that Ernie Grunfeld makes great trades. And I'm right.
But as long as you're entertaining us, go ahead and spell it out: what exactly are you saying the Wizards should have done? Obviously you think they should have kept Devin Harris. Harris did not produce overnight for Dallas, and he wouldn't in D.C. Arguably he would've taken longer to mature here. And you must be upset about this latest trade, so by all means, share your feelings. We're here to help.
Posted by: satchmore | June 24, 2009 11:18 PM "
How do you quantify a "good trade?"
I would say playoffs success, not lottery.
Sounds like you're the one who needs help, if not, at the minimum, a Webster's dictionary.
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 25, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse
Alexa Steele,
With the addition of Mike Mille and Foye why didn't you add the Wizards to your poll?
Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 25, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse
Frankly, I don't think the Magic or Cavs added much to their teams. In fact, I think they may have hurt their teams by ruining their team chemistry by adding demanding yet over-the-hill aging stars (think Farve on the Jets).
Shaq and Vince both demand the ball a lot and still think they are top class players, but the reality is they are verging on washed up.
Posted by: awb9h | June 25, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse
The Draft starts in less then an hour...I can't wait to see who the Wizards draft with the 5th pick? I'm sorry they drafted a 29 year old white guy who can't play D and a guy who scored 14 pts on a team as bad as the Wizards were last year?
I guess we can wait and see how the other GM's in the east con other teams out of their all stars and see who we will sell our second pick too.
What a night!
Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 25, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse
awb9h
After watching Carter blow by Miller next year you won't be saying he's washed up.
On the bright side AJ will be there to shake his hand after he dunks on him.
Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 25, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse
Wow Stephen Curry looks GOODDDDDDDDDDD in his suit. =)
Posted by: rachel216 | June 25, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse
This poll says it all. Even the Wizards' hometown paper doesn't believe Wizards management is trying to win a NBA Title.
Posted by: 33dgriffin | June 25, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse
ATL in 2010
Posted by: dcinmd1 | June 25, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse
I think our package was better than Lee, Alston and Battie. Would you guys rather have Vince and Anderson than Miller and Foye? I would.
Posted by: GshawnJohnson | June 25, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse
I was a big fan of orlando throughout the playoffs, but I don't like this trade. Maybe I was sentimental towards alston, but lee? he's too young and has too much potential to trade for a 32 year old carter. in my opinion. especially if they don't have enough left to resign turkoglu. for what it's worth.
Posted by: crs-one | June 25, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse
Atlanta stole J. Crawford. Cleveland stole Shaq, and Orlando and Washington did a wash. I like the T-Wolves and the Grizzles
chances to improve greatly. Which leaves the Wizards holding the bag.
Posted by: Bailey51 | June 25, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse
If the Magic are able to re-sign Turkoglu, they are hands-down the favorite in the East.
By the way, Western Conference supremacy is over. They have the Lakers, and a bunch of real good teams. The East now has three dominant teams, and a darkhrose wildcard in the Wizards.
Posted by: Roman5 | June 25, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse
First off, the Magic had such a young up-and-coming team w/just the right mix of vets. Why put all your eggs in one basket and shrink your window to 2yrs?
VC, just like those eggs, will break easily during an 82game schedule or at the very least stink the place up when his teammates are getting "too many" touches.
And secondly, looking at the deal that is being discussed for GState to get Amare, I don't think that all they asked the Wiz for was CB3. I think they wanted the #5 pick, too.
Posted by: SportzWiz | June 25, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse
gotta agree with the above posts. how do you not include us in the poll? i thought the wiz were a team that was built to win now
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse
FUDGE THE DUMB FRIKIN WASHINGTON WIZARDS.....he would slip to number 5...great job EG..
Posted by: AaronB1790 | June 25, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse
We could have had Rubio. I did not expect that!
Posted by: Kev29 | June 25, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse
How do you quantify a "good trade?"
...
Sounds like you're the one who needs help, if not, at the minimum, a Webster's dictionary.
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 25, 2009 6:10 PM
quantify? quantify a "good trade?" Yea, lets determine the quantity of a good trade...womp, womp
Here, this is for you, educated in DC Man:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quantify
As you were soldier, next time keep your self-reflections--needing dictionaries--to, ummmm, yourself...lol
Posted by: Vicc | June 25, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse
how's e'rybody feel bout our trade now?
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse
Well, that explains why the Timberwolves were so eager to let Foye go.
Posted by: KeithMcMillan | June 25, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse
Rubio is over rated in my opinion!
Posted by: zxhoya | June 25, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse
yall are sooo funny? we shoulda waited til toda to trade. way more leverage
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse
they didn't want foye anyway the wiz went for it and a lot of people on here went for it. we got hosed
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse
I woulda loved Rubio!
I jus think that whatever team ended up with him, will release him after 2-3 years due to exorbitant expectations, and he will become a star with his 2nd team!
Posted by: Vicc | June 25, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse
Wow. Flynn? There is going to be some major dealing coming up.
Posted by: Kev29 | June 25, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse
holla back telfair. we shoulda asked minny to throw in bassy
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse
Can someone tell me what happen to our 32nd pick?
Posted by: hwebster1 | June 25, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse
johnny flynn with the "mid coast" luv
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse
Looks like the Knicks are going to get Curry without even having to make a trade:(
And I bet Grunfield will trade away #32 for cash...AGAIN!
Posted by: Lisa_R | June 25, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse
Foye or rubio? Yeah I know who I rather have. I hate you wizards.
Posted by: detox04 | June 25, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse
I can't say I would have wanted rubio.
Posted by: crs-one | June 25, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse
the knicks wish they coulda made it happen with the wiz
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse
Well, guess I was wrong!
Posted by: Lisa_R | June 25, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse
And I bet Grunfield will trade away #32 for cash...AGAIN!
Posted by: Lisa_R | June 25, 2009 8:14 PM
I bet you are right.
Posted by: the_shocker1 | June 25, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse
We traded away Ricky Rubio for Mike Miller and Randy Foye.
Here's my prediction -- Wiz make the playoffs, get eliminated by Cleveland and then go back to sucking.
Negative I admit but now, I'm just pissed.
Posted by: Liebercreep | June 25, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse
People the 32nd pick has been given to Memphis. Why?
Posted by: hwebster1 | June 25, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse
"how's e'rybody feel bout our trade now?"
Just fine.
Posted by: kalo_rama | June 25, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse
yall are sooo funny? we shoulda waited til toda to trade. way more leverage
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:07 PM
I agree 100%. We shoulda waited dammit!!
Posted by: Vicc | June 25, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse
i'm smart enough to know you would be, Kal.
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse
rubio wouldnt fit with the wizards. there is also a big risk in drafting him, why else do u think he slipped to 5
Posted by: bullets8890 | June 25, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse
"i'm smart enough ...
No, you're really not.
Posted by: kalo_rama | June 25, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse
RIP Michael Jackson
Posted by: dspinx | June 25, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse
the internet is great isn't it?
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 25, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse
People the 32nd pick has been given to Memphis. Why?
Posted by: hwebster1 | June 25, 2009 8:19 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$ that cheap abe doesn't want to part with
Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 25, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse
"quantify? quantify a "good trade?" Yea, lets determine the quantity of a good trade...womp, womp
Here, this is for you, educated in DC Man:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quantify
As you were soldier, next time keep your self-reflections--needing dictionaries--to, ummmm, yourself...lol
Posted by: Vicc | June 25, 2009 8:03 PM "
Yes, how do you "quantify" a "good" trade?
What is the numerical equivalent of a "good" trade.
Good to me is like getting a score of 70-75 out of 100.
70-75 to me is like big C+, and a C+ trade isn't going to do much for you.
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 25, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse
"RIP Michael Jackson
Posted by: dspinx | June 25, 2009 8:30 PM "
RIP Les BouleS
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 25, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse
I realize that you just picked the Conference Finals teams for the poll but my choice for "Other" would be the Spurs. They pick up Richard Jefferson for a song and just may sign Rasheed Wallace to plug in between Jefferson and Duncan.
Posted by: NotoriousREG | June 26, 2009 6:51 AM | Report abuse
I'm fine with the trade and glad we didn't end up with Rubio. I'm more upset we didn't keep the 32 pick and take Blair. That was a no brainer, especially given our lack of size and rebounding...
Posted by: tkelly29 | June 26, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse
To those of you who think an untried eighteen year old can come in and lead an NBA team is just plain foolish! The draft this year had no players who are ready to play in the NBA except maybe Blake Griffin. Rubio has gotten caught up in his own hype to think that he will come in and dictate where and who he would play for. Let us not forget about the buyout that will cost the team that takes him plenty.He would do well to stay in Europe and mature, both physically, and mentally.It was very wise for Grunfeld to accquire two proven young veterans who can play.
Posted by: plewis11 | June 29, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse
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