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Workouts Continue, Lawson Coming

The Wizards will have another round of workouts today at Verizon Center, headlined by North Carolina point guard Ty Lawson, a Clinton, Md., native. Lawson already expressed his desire to play for his hometown team, but once again, the Wizards would likely need to trade down in order to draft him. Lawson was the key cog behind the Tar Heel's national title run, as he averaged 20.8 points and 6.8 assists in five games during the Tournament, despite an injured toe.

If you recall, Lawson worked out for the Wizards last summer, when he was projected as a possible late first round pick. Unfortunately, his hopes of joining the NBA after his junior year were hurt when he tweaked his left ankle during the workout. The 5-foot-11 Lawson worked out for the New York Knicks earlier this week.

Other players joining Lawson are Gonzaga guards Jeremy Pargo (younger brother of former Hornets guard Jannero Pargo) and Josh Heytvelt, USC forward Taj Gibson, Arkansas guard Patrick Beverly and Coppin State guard Tywain McKee.

By Michael Lee  |  June 11, 2009; 9:08 AM ET
 
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They don't "need" to trade down to draft him. They can take him at number five if they really want to. I wouldn't advise it, and I can't imagine they would, but they certainly could.

Posted by: pondaz | June 11, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

There was a minor blurb on ESPN Insider that mentioned this team made an offer for Ginobili earlier this month. He'll be 32 when the season starts and I don't see how he would fit in the team, except as an expensive (10.7M in the last year of his deal) 6th man. Since his contract expires the same as Thomas & James, they most likely wouldn't be involved. I don't see the Spurs wanting to take on Jamison's contract since it has 3 more years on it. Curious to see what the offer was...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Money_talks_and_Manu_stays.html

Posted by: -CN- | June 11, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Andre Iguodala was on ESPN First Take yesterday and he said he thinks Stephen Curry is the best player in the draft - primarily because of his high basketball IQ.

Iguodala said he hopes Curry falls to #17 (when the Sixers draft).

Posted by: Lisa_R | June 11, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Money_talks_and_Manu_stays.html

Posted by: -CN- | June 11, 2009 9:54 AM


i read the article, thanks for the link.

when i hear popovich saying helluva player i think he might be talking about caron butler. and i dont think it would be a good trade giving the fact that caron butler is a bit younger,cheaper can rebound better and we already have a closer in arenas. although arenas hasnt been healthy we have still invested alot into him. Also ginobli has been injured for the past few seasons. I would make the trade if it didnt involve our big three but definetley san antonio would not make that trade. But if caron butler was traded to the spurs...instantly the spurs would be title contenders.

I am just hoping we can bring in some kind of borderline all star talent. but we have a few more days to go until the draft, so we'll see

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 11, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Scenarios that includes Tarheels and also along with clearing a roster slot for our 2nd pick and dropping dead weight sounds good to me.

Ty Lawson from Clinton MD would be a tremendous upgrade over Mike James and he will become a better player than Nick Young.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 11, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

From the Spurs perspective, Nick Young, DSong plus expiring trade filler for Manu isn't a bad deal.

For them, they trade old, damaged goods for consistency (Dsong) and potential (NY). I imagine that Dsong could be a valuable player on a team that used him properly. Popp might know a little something about how to use a fundamentally competent forward that is good at pick and roll. And NY will either boom or bust.

For us, best case is that we get that veteran who could help now. Worst case is that he is injured or plays like an old man. Then we'd let him go in the same flush we'd make with our current expiring crap. So long as we keep our #5 and use it on a young SG to replace NY, It seems like a good trade for all.

I can see why EG would propose something like that, but it seems Popp is too sentimental to make a logical move.

Perhaps EG is targeting 6th Men again (like he did with AJ), and he's simply starting at the top of the list and working down.

Posted by: cballer | June 11, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I just saw the part about "helluva player"

I guys that rules out dsong and Nick Young.

I can't imagine trading any of our "Hellava" players for someone that old and oft-injured. Especially after we all witnessed the overnight deterioration of Antonio Daniels.

Posted by: cballer | June 11, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I hope David Lee is headed to the Wiz in exchange of draft choices with the Knicks. The Knick would be taking Etan Thomas and/or Mike James in return. The Wiz need rebounding, intensity, and another star. This would do it. Hope Ernie can do it!

Posted by: JoeC2 | June 11, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Ya' see, my contention is ya' gotta upgrade yo' weaknesses' and I see the weaknesses as:

Etan, Darius, Mike, Opech, and Deshawn.

I am for any deals that upgrade these players.

As I've said before, any deal that swaps our core is off the board for me and a non-starter.

Draft and trade to upgrade the players above.

Sounds simple, low key, and unpopular dosen't it. But when you couple that simple approach with a healthy core and a formidiable coaching staff, it puts this Team in the mix for the East Crown next year.

To seriously be able to contend for the East Crown next year would be huge.

Adding Ty Lawson and Hasheem Thabeet to replace two or more of those guys above would be a tremendous step in the right direction.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 11, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

@jasper

When Popavich said "helluva player for a helluva player," I think he was referring to a trade offer from LAST offseason, based on the article. So, I don't think it applies to the recent article. The only tidbit on about this team was mentioned by the writer and was not necessarily acknowledged by Pops, and it didn't mention the caliber of players involved, other than Ginobili, of course...

Posted by: -CN- | June 11, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

i think we can get some great value for a back up point with our second round pick, where a player like patty mills will be available, he was giving all types of trouble to chris paul and deron williams and the rest of team usa in the olympics, he is more of a score first guard too, so he can also provide some added scoring ability to the second unit, so regardless if we trade down, we should look at a good wing player or forward

Posted by: jasonma1 | June 11, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

we should look for a wing player or forward with our first round pick that is

Posted by: jasonma1 | June 11, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

@ CN-

im not sure if i read the headline onthe espn website. but the title said- "popovich admits ginobli may be dealt" as in if teams inquired about him today and they[spurs] like what they are hearing, they would pull the trigger. Although Ginobli is thier closer, he has a career average of 15 ppg and he is a sixth man on the spurs. I think they might revisit that trade and offer the #5 (jordan hill) and hill would be great for san antonio, d stevenson (a "lockdown" defender that can shoot) the expiring contract of etan thomas, and darius songalia. the salaries match up because ginobli is scheduled to make 9 million next season. to make the salaries exactly match they can throw in drew gooden and we fill both of our needs instantly.

1- arenas
2- ginobli
3- butler
4- jamison
5- haywood

6th- gooden
7th- crittenton
8th- young
9th- mcguire

that starting five is better than enough(when healthy) to compete not only for the S.E divison title but for the eastern conference crown..

what do yall think?

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 11, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

giniobli while healthy, is a better player than say a tayshaun prince, or a richard jefferson, but i would rather have the other two players over ginobli, considering ginobli's age, and his injury history, which isnt likely to get better considering his commitments to his national team. I don't think ginobili would be worth giving up the number 5 pick for that, when we could get harden, who has been compared to ginobili

Posted by: jasonma1 | June 11, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

oops, likely to not get better i meant

Posted by: jasonma1 | June 11, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

San Antonio would then have DSteve and Mason at the 2...funny. But maybe not.

If San Antonio actually wants D Steve at the 2, then maybe WE should want D Steve at the 2. SA makes some pretty good calls on personnel. If they endorse D Steve as a legit "lockdown defender who can shoot" then we should NOT make the trade and thank them for telling us who on our team is worth playing.

Posted by: cballer | June 11, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Lawson is a possibility if the Wiz trade down and end up picking in the No. 10-15 range. I'd be surprised if the Wiz would use a top ten pick on a small PG when that should be the least of their needs at this point. There will likely be a number of good prospects will the Wiz pick at the top of the 2nd round for a PG if one is needed. I like Lawson's game a lot but don't see him coming here with Arenas in the fold and Crittenton likely to need some minutes next year to continue to develop.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 11, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

yea thats true, his body has taken a beating the last couple of years. Also that commitement to the argentine basketball team doesnt help either but given the fact the wizards are in a win now mode, i think that the trade would be good for the short term, four or five year window.

Posted by: jasperhneyaolcom | June 11, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Working out Terrence Williams and Tywon Lawson sure doesn't sound like they're planning to pick fifth, does it?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 11, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Patty Mills is making it out of the first round. He's getting too many favorable reviews. I could easily see a team reaching for him in the top half of the first.

I would be really cautious making any trades with San Antonio. They seem to know a bit more about talent evaulation than the Wiz do. If they're willing to give up Manu for the #5 pick and our back-ups (which I haven't seen, I'm just saying) that should be a big sign that we're missing something. I'd at least ask for RMJr back as well =)

And jasperhneyaolcom, thanks for putting "lockdown" in quotes when referring to Stevenson's defense, as that term is relative only to the Wizards caliber of defense.

Posted by: ts35 | June 11, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

There is nobody at #5 that is going to come in and have an immediate impact.

So, the choice is really to trade down or trade the pick altogether.

This team needs rebounding help and better interior defense.

A rugged PF is the greatest need.

A PG to work behind Arenas and as an off guard (as Norm Nixon did with Magic in LA) when both are on the court would also be an interesting move.

I don't see any help coming at center. Haywood despite being up and down is going to be the starter.

Young bigs take years to develop.

The Wizards have a shorter window with the ages of the core players, what a guy may be able to do 3 years from now is meaningless to a team committed to a maximum payroll in 2009.

Posted by: leopard09 | June 11, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

All you haters of Young and Blatche will be jumping on the bandwagon next year when their games are at another level, whether here or elsewhere. You must take a flyer on last season because Eddie J was never a developer of young talent and Eddie T. didn't have a clue how to coach. A little league team would not have developed under his watch. No one exceled under his coaching except Jamison and all he wanted was his numbers. Even Caron regressed and he was an all star the year before. If Young starts with Arenas in the backcourt, they will be one of the top backcourts in the East. Blatche, if used at his natural PF position will flourish. Flip is a real coach with a real plan and with Cassell assisting, this will make both Arenas and Young better. The core of this team is set: Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Haywood, Young, Blatche, McGee, Critteden & McGuire. Add Curry or Harden from the draft.

Posted by: garrybrown | June 11, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz will do the right thing. We do need a player that can shoot threes. Lets get Andre Miller from Philadelphia he's an unrestricted free agent. I like Zack Randolph also. Go Wiz.

Posted by: gman1030 | June 11, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Mano is an old star who might continue to play better in the same system. He is not going to play well for wiz.There is no need to give up young for him any way,his contract will be over after next season.If he play well for us he will be picked by big teams.If we have to give up NY and Blache or JM we need a good veteran who could remain a wiz atleast for 2-3 seasons.
Stevenson is the right player to play beside Arenas, the main consern is his injury.

Posted by: gtefferra | June 11, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The more it appears like we are trading down, the more it appears that we may be adding to our core instead of trading our core.

I am all for that.

Ginobli is a Nobli, ah' that is a No Go.

LarryInClintonMD.

GarryBrown, I like your style.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 11, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

i'm not ready to give up on Nick Young. the kid has everything you could ask for. That 2-week stretch he had during the season where he averaged over 20 and was straight ballin brought him a long NBA career. Young needs consistent playing time where he knows they are counting on him for 30-35 minutes plus. As a pro he should be mentally prepared, but frankly you can see he is not. he lacks work ethic, dedication or pride. Everyone knows he has the skills, it's just a matter of when he utilizes them.

Andray Blatche could be shipped. he is gifted, but he hasn't dedicated himself to improving any aspect of his game. He obviously doesn't want to be a PF. How long does it take to have your chest caved in by other big men in the league before you decide to improve your strength and body. It still seems like he wants to be a 3 to me. His game still looks like the same kid that was in the McDonald's All-star game. He has not developed a post move, he doesn't have a consistent mid-range shot either.

If folks criticize the Wiz development of players I would have to agree 100%. They need to have dedicated folks working with their bigs in particular. I'm scared McGhee and all that raw talent will go to waste. However, you can put Blatche in the Kwame Brown category soon.

I say go with Harden. I questioned him earlier since he played as a chubby 2 guard. now he's worked on his body he seems dedicated to being a pro. He'll challenge Young, but he can also fill it up. The Hill kid at 6-10 and can barely bench press 200-lbs, low b-ball IQ, and only 5-6 years into competitive ball is a definite no.

I'm afraid of Curry. he's a Shane Battier type to me. He'll be a nice pro. But top 5 pick is questionable? Great shooter, but he's not super quick or powerful like Arenas to beat taller defenders.

Posted by: oknow1 | June 11, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Adding Ginobli,Richard Hamilton,or David Lee would definitely take this team to the next level,but getting Bosh for Jamison the 5th pick, second round pick and Etan or Mike James puts us at a championship level. Anything less is just the same ole, same ole around here. We've gotten so use to losin that it's ridiculous. We're just one good bold move away. 1.arenas 2.stevenson 3.caron 4.bosh 5.haywood

Posted by: DC-fan | June 11, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Did someone on here really call Ginobili a sixth man? If healthy - and that is a BIG if - he would be the best player on the team (unless Gil gets back to full strength).
But we are never going to win anything until Antawn is made the 6th man and we commit to getting tougher on the glass.
David Lee and the 8 for the 5 and Etan is the best case scenario. Could get a point (Jennings?) and David Lee.

Posted by: BigWesGoingToTakeA | June 11, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I think Songalia sucks and I wouldn't mind seeing him gone at all... Manu is a good player, but not exactly the kind I'm dying for as a Wizards fan. We always have a ton of guards and forwards who can score, but never any true big men. I want Amare, there I said it.

Posted by: Smashionals | June 11, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

By the end of the year, with regular playing time, Nick will be a better defender than DeShawn ever was. He has much better tools for the job- better athleticism and much more length. His understanding is almost there now, he just needs repetitions so that it becomes automatic. That, and the strength to fight through screens and avoid getting posted up.

Unfortunately, at the offensive end, Nick seems to have very poor court vision. For a guard, he gets a pathetic number of assists. Also unfortunately, the NBA does not seem to be very good at developing court vision. If you don't already have it when you get to the NBA, you probably won't ever get it. For that reason, I can't see Nick as a starter. He's going to be a very good sixth man, change the momentum type of player, but he'll never be a starter on a decent team.

Posted by: yop32 | June 11, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

We should trade our 5th pick and ET to NY for a sign and trade for Lee and their 1st round pick. Then trade that #1 pick with James to Dallas for their #1 pick and Stackouse, whose contract would not be picked up for the year. We get Lee and get rid of debt

Posted by: Drkitchen | June 11, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Loepard09 is right. This is the weakest draft I have ever seen. there will be some surprises here and there and a lot of quality players, but I don't even think Griffin is going to be a superstar.

As far as all the folks asking for Lee, I wish. He has been one of my favorites for 3 years now, but he is the only player worth a shizinit on the Knicks. We all know the Knicks are playing for 2010 cap room anyway though, so maybe they are willing to toss him overboard for some draft picks and expiring contracts. Give up a lost player like Etan and this years and next years pick for him? I think you do it for a known quantity.

And maybe the Knicks end up with Bosh, LeTravel, Wade and maybe McGrady with a stock of 4 or 5 recent first rounders. Scary.

Just throwing it out there, but does anyone think Charlotte would be willing to part with Gerald Wallace to move up and get a young guy like Blatche? They are obviously going nowhere anyway andI'd love to have Wallace as a backup that can play 2;3; and 4.

Posted by: Blurred | June 11, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Why would we want to help the knicks get Bosh and Lebron and watch them win championships. Why not try and get Bosh on our team with Gilbert so we can go after a championship. This is what I'm talking about when I said earlier that we are use to losing in this town. Gerald Wallace is a much better player than Deshaun Stevenson and Nick Young so why bring him off the bench if you feel he can play the 2.

Posted by: DC-fan | June 11, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

On Manu vs. Butler.... People bring up Manu's injuries. In the last 4 seasons Butler has played in only 5 more regular season games. 5. That's it. Manu is a better defender, better shooter, and better ball-handler. You put him and McGuire on the floor at 2 and 3, versus Butler and whoever else we have to play at 2 or 3, and we become better on defense, and just as efficient on offense. In fact, Manu's outside shooting would be a boon to our offense.

I wouldn't mind that trade at all.

Posted by: segastyle | June 11, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

yop32: "By the end of the year, with regular playing time, Nick will be a better defender than DeShawn ever was."

Boy, don't know how I missed this the first time around. I'm just hoping Nick Young becomes a reliable scorer. I don't dream the guy would bother to learn to play defense. And better than Stevenson in a year? Sure you don't mean Adlai Stevenson?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 11, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

"From the Spurs perspective, Nick Young, DSong plus expiring trade filler for Manu isn't a bad deal. "

Posted by: cballer | June 11, 2009 10:44 AM

No, it's a terrible deal. As long as Ginobili is healthy (yes, a big "if") along with Duncan and Parker, the Spurs are contenders. Top-tier contenders. In a lot of ways he's as important to the Spurs (if not more) as Duncan and Parker. Young isn't a fraction of the player Ginobili is, even at 75%. The Spurs don't give a rat's ass about "potential." All they care about, every year, is winning right now. Trading Ginobili for Young doesn't come close to achieving that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 11, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Nick Young has awesome physical potential at the defensive end. He's tall for a 2-guard and has a ridiculous 7' wing span. He's extremely athletic--his no step vert, the relevant stat for challenging and blocking shots, is off the charts at 39.5". Once Nick develops a halfway decent feel for playing D and commits to putting in the necessary effort, he'll be one of our top defenders. I saw a huge improvement from Nick in both of those areas last year. That's not to say he's going to be a lockdown defender any time soon, this is still the Wizards we're talking about. But better than DeShawn is definitely an achievable goal within a few months.

Posted by: yop32 | June 11, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

yop32: He's tall for a 2-guard and has a ridiculous 7' wing span. He's extremely athletic--his no step vert, the relevant stat for challenging and blocking shots, is off the charts at 39.5"."

Doesn't this just remind us what an underachiever Nick has been to date? I don't think you'll find much argument about his potential. The numbers you cite are from his pre-draft combine. If he's really got significant advantages over other SGs in length, wingspan, standing reach, and vertical leap -- which he does -- then isn't it reasonable to expect better performance from him to date?

You know what else the scouts said about Nick, that probably caused him to fall to the middle of the round? That he had a low basketball IQ. Have we seen anything to contradict that impression so far?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 11, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

If Nick had a higher basketball IQ, his D would be decent already, like Dominic. Instead, it's going to take him an extra year.

He's never going to be a brilliant defender like Bill Russell or Shane Battier, but he doesn't have to be that smart to be a better defender than DeShawn.

Posted by: yop32 | June 12, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Young is listed at 6' 6" which is pretty much standard height for an NBA SG.

As for the rest . . . big whoop. His wingspan and vertical are pretty much irrelevant because he never uses them to any real advantage. He rarely takes the ball hard to the basket and tries to finish at the rim. And he's blocked a total of 27 shots in 157 career games. His favorite shot is a fadeaway jumper, which actually negates any potential advantage from length and reach.

Bottom line: NBA history is filled with guys with great physical ability who never amounted to anything because they didn't put in the work to develop their skill. Harold Miner ring any bells? J.R. Rider? Courtney Alexander?

"You know what else the scouts said about Nick, that probably caused him to fall to the middle of the round? That he had a low basketball IQ. Have we seen anything to contradict that impression so far?"

Not even a little.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 12, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Nick's defensive deficiencies stemmed from a lack of understanding of NBA defensive schemes and a lack of strength to fight through screens and bang in the post.

He has shown big improvement in his understanding of the defensive scheme (although it has taken a while), and strength is probably the easiest deficiency to improve. NBA teams have an almost perfect track record when it comes to building sufficient strength to play respectable D.

Another factor that will improve Nick's ability to get around screens is the return of Brendan to the lineup. A shouted warning that a screen is coming will be a huge help.

According to the official pre-draft measurements, Nick measured out at 6'-5" tall w/o shoes. For comparison, the average 2-guard taken in the top 15 comes in at around 6'-3.5" w/o shoes. So Nick has better than standard height for an NBA 2-guard.

Posted by: yop32 | June 12, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Ty Lawson is a winner! Somebody is going to be very pleased next year with him at the PG. He will be better than Jameel Nelson and look how he sparked the Magic until his injury. Once again the Wizards have absolutely no clue! They need to trade Caron Butler to try and free up cap space for a push at Wade

Posted by: rondozier | June 12, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"For comparison, the average 2-guard taken in the top 15 comes in at around 6'-3.5" w/o shoes."

Except he's not just playing against "the average 2-guard taken in the top 15." (I won't bother asking you where you got that "stat" from.) He's playing against every other SG in the NBA. And measured against that (particularly against the ones who play a lot), 6' 6" is not a big height advantage.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 12, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"Nick's defensive deficiencies stemmed from a lack of understanding of NBA defensive schemes and a lack of strength to fight through screens and bang in the post."

And, in his two years in the NBA, he hasn't shown any signs of getting stronger or better understanding defensive schemes.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 12, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Average measurements are from here:
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=avepos&year=All

We are trying to compare Nick Young to DeShawn Stevenson. I couldn't find DeShawn's measurements, so I gave the average for the position instead. To my eye, DeShawn appears to be of average 2-guard size.

Nick has greatly improved his defensive understanding. If you want to learn to understand basketball better (or any sport for that matter), you need to start paying attention to what is happening away from the ball.

Posted by: yop32 | June 12, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

"We are trying to compare Nick Young to DeShawn Stevenson."

No, we aren't. You said he was "tall for a 2 guard." What possible difference does it make if he's taller than Stevenson (and he's not, anyone who's seen them on the court together can clearly see that)? The issue is whether he has a height advantage over his opponents. And at 5' 6", on most nights he won't. It's that simple.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 12, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Scroll up, kalo:
"By the end of the year, with regular playing time, Nick will be a better defender than DeShawn ever was."

Posted by: yop32 | June 11, 2009 3:00 PM

The issue is whether the taller Nick Young will be a better defender than the shorter DeShawn Stevenson.

Posted by: yop32 | June 12, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

You should perhaps pay closer attention to your own writing (though God knows why anyone would subject themselves to that):

"He's tall for a 2-guard and has a ridiculous 7' wing span."
Posted by: yop32 | June 11, 2009 11:24 PM

Being taller than Stevenson (which he really isn't) doesn't make him "tall for a 2 guard." That can only be determined by how his size measures up to a significant number of the other NBA SGs he'll be matched up against. And, at 6' 6" (listed) he is not significantly taller than most of the rotation quality SGs in the NBA. Period.

Moreover, even if he is taller than Stevenson (he's not), that doesn't automatically make him a better defender than Stevenson. The one has nothing to do with the other.


Posted by: kalo_rama | June 12, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

At 6'-5" w/o shoes, Nick as tall as any of the first round prospects this year. Only Terrence Williams matches him, everyone else is shorter.

Nick is taller than any SG taken in the first round in 2008.

Nick was the tallest SG taken in the first round in 2007.

In 2006, Ronnie Brewer and Brandon Roy were taller, the other six SG first rounders were shorter.

Guess it depends on your definition of tall.

Posted by: yop32 | June 12, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Why would we want to help the knicks get Bosh and Lebron and watch them win championships. Why not try and get Bosh on our team with Gilbert so we can go after a championship. This is what I'm talking about when I said earlier that we are use to losing in this town. Gerald Wallace is a much better player than Deshaun Stevenson and Nick Young so why bring him off the bench if you feel he can play the 2.

All I was saying is that we aren't getting Bosh. He is a top 10 player in the NBA and we don't have anything that Toronto would be willing to take for him. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it. Also as far as the knicks goes - that was my point - I like Lee a lot, but he isn't a Bosh, Wade, LeBron or other superstar, so the KNicks might be willing to let him go.

The Wiz made their play around the three we have...to get Bosh onboard we'd have to dump about 15 million in salaries: ie - Arenas (who would take that contract?) or Butler AND Jamison, which then leaves us with a team without the other pieces Bosh would want around him. There will be 10 teams offering Bosh max contracts and he can choose where to go. To get to the point the Knicks are at, you had to start planning for it 3 years ago like they did.

As far as Gerald Wallace - You are right, he should start on the wizards team, my bad. Maybe at the 3 and drop Butler to the 2, though. Either way, all three of them play too many minutes.

Posted by: Blurred | June 12, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

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