Report: Wizards Make Contract Offer To Oberto

Mike Monroe of the San Antonio Express-News is reporting that the Washington Wizards have made a contract offer to former Spur Fabricio Oberto. Oberto was waived by the Detroit Pistons two weeks ago after taking part in a complicated three-team trade last month. The terms of the offer are not known, but Detroit still has to pay $1.9 million of Oberto's partially-guaranteed $3.8 million contract.

Oberto, a 6-foot-10 center spent four seasons with the Spurs, averaging 3.6 points and 3.9 rebounds, and was the starting center for the 2007 championship team. The Wizards have planned on signing a veteran big man for somewhere between the league minimum and the bi-annual exception (roughly $2 million). For a player with Oberto's experience, the minimum offer would be $854,957.

Oberto has been in Argentina since the season ended and may still be waiting to see if he can a better offer from NBA teams or from European teams. The 34-year-old Oberto played in Greece and Spain before joining the Spurs in 2005. He also won a gold medal for Argentina in 2004. The Spurs used Oberto as part of a deal to acquire Richard Jefferson from the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks then shipped Oberto to Detroit for Amir Johnson.

I'll be back with an update shortly.

By Michael Lee |  July 14, 2009; 10:29 AM ET
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Man, I hope we can sign him. That would give us some good veteran depth. He can play the 4 or the 5. We can also sign someone like Heytvelt.

Then I think we could be a contender.

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | July 14, 2009 10:45 AM

what is this the "rumors page" ?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 10:53 AM

Oberto will be cheap. That's pretty much all there is to say about him. He's gonna look a lot less attractive on the court when viewed away from the reflected glow of Tim Duncan.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2009 10:54 AM

what's the likelihood he comes to the wiz vs. going to europe for big money?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 10:54 AM

Nothing to be excited about, but Oberto would fill the need for a solid veteran big man. Wizards mostly need insurance behind Haywood, McGee, Jamison and Blatche, who should chew up the minutes at 4 and 5 spot.

Still should have drafted DeJuan Blair...

Posted by: travisloop | July 14, 2009 10:57 AM

Oberto is not as good as Pech. Put me down for that one.

Posted by: original_mark | July 14, 2009 10:59 AM

Oberto fits what we need. A Euro big who can step out and nail a 12 footer once in awhile. I can't wait to see the Summer squad tonight! If they don't go undefeated with this team (especially if Blatche plays), then i'm gonna be disappointed. Plus, i'm anxious to see Heytvelt play. I really think he can make this roster. And do not sleep on Aminu! That young fella can jump out the gym. It's gonna come down to those two at the end of the day for the last roster spot.

Posted by: CBell29 | July 14, 2009 11:00 AM

Sure Oberto is what makes us a contender. Just as much as Blair would have. Blair wouldn't have provided any inside toughness on defense or shot blocking so why all the whining? Oberto may not bring much either...but he is definitely serviceable.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 11:00 AM

Lot of chatter over a guy who, if things go well, will likely not play very much if at all. If Oberto is playing significant minutes, it's because Haywood is hurt or the the young guys flamed out. In either case, the Wiz will be in deep trouble.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2009 11:03 AM

Sure Oberto is what makes us a contender. Just as much as Blair would have. Blair wouldn't have provided any inside toughness on defense or shot blocking so why all the whining? Oberto may not bring much either...but he is definitely serviceable.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 11:00 AM
service oberto all u want. what's the guarantee he comes here for 2 mil when he could get way more overseas. will he be better than blair? maybe this year but if blair remains healthy he should be a better pro than oberto ever was( which wouldn't be too hard)

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 11:05 AM

John Hollinger on Oberto:

Scouting report: Oberto almost never attempts to score one-on-one and rarely shoots from outside. Instead, his game is about cutting off the ball to receive a pass at the basket. He's very good at reading openings when opponents double-team Tim Duncan or help against Manu Ginobili and catching a dish for a layup, and gets nearly all his baskets this way. He's mediocre at best as a shooter and doesn't elevate well near the rim, but he's very good at tapping out offensive rebounds.

Defensively, Oberto does a decent job throwing his weight around and helps out on the boards, but he doesn't block shots and isn't a particularly good weakside defender. His main attribute is frustrating opposing post players with his grabby style.


So maybe he can school Javale on some of his crafty post-defense tricks!

I remember a game against the Lakers where Bynum picked up two quick T's because Oberto had him so frustrated.

Two quick concerns though include an irregular heartbeat and some left foot issues. Overall, he is a savvy player who could come in handy come playoff time especially.

Posted by: elfreako | July 14, 2009 11:05 AM

So, would Oberto be an upgrade over Songaila?

Posted by: cannontl | July 14, 2009 11:10 AM

WHAT HAPPENED TO AMINU?

Posted by: DCSPORTS | July 14, 2009 11:10 AM

service oberto all u want. what's the guarantee he comes here for 2 mil when he could get way more overseas. will he be better than blair? maybe this year but if blair remains healthy he should be a better pro than oberto ever was( which wouldn't be too hard)

If he remains healthy he's still a fat 6'5'' PF with no vertical. Good luck with that.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 11:12 AM

"He's very good at reading openings when opponents double-team Tim Duncan or help against Manu Ginobili and catching a dish for a layup, and gets nearly all his baskets this way."

That's fantastic. Think of all the open layups he'll get on the Wizards when teams double-team Tim Duncan or help against Manu Ginobili. Oh . . . wait a minute . . .

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2009 11:12 AM

is the heart problem serious? how old is he?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 11:13 AM

I see Songalia and Oberto as a wash for the most part. Songalia probably had a better jumper. Oberto is probably better geared for the defensive aspect of the game.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 11:13 AM

Lot of chatter over a guy who, if things go well, will likely not play very much if at all.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2009 11:03 AM


Thank you Kal! I wish people would stop over-analyzing everything! He is nothing but insurance. That's all. just another 6 fouls to use when the refs start cheating for Lebron and Shaq.

Posted by: CBell29 | July 14, 2009 11:14 AM

And in regards to Blair, we did that boy a favor by not drafting him. "The Curse" would've tore his knees or had him come into training camp weighing 350 or something.

Posted by: CBell29 | July 14, 2009 11:18 AM

If he remains healthy he's still a fat 6'5'' PF with no vertical. Good luck with that.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 11:12 AM

do you watch basketball?

Oberto is no more explosive than blair and comparably husky. i don't see how blair wasn't worth a 2nd rd pick but Oberto an over the hill, twice let go, stiff is worth 3.8 mill. i didn't evem know about berto's foot and heart probs.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 11:19 AM

On the Blatche topic, it's also important to remember that because he came out of high school, his first 2-4 years are pretty developmental for him, and what did we do? We switched him back and forth between the 4 spot, the 3 spot, and the 5 spot. Since we never had a reliable backup center, he was forced into that position for long periods, and expected to play bigger, and stronger. either of which he really is.

You can't force a player to be something he's not. I sometimes think that was EJ's achilles heel as a coach. If a player doesn't play the style a coach needs for his scheme, then you get a different player who fits (or you adjust your scheme). This is why it's important for management and coaches to be on the same page.

EJ was clearly not Grunfeld's choice. Saunders is. EJ wanted tough, physical big men like Thomas. Grunfeld gave him Jamison, Blatche, and Pech. Not exactly helping EJ out there...

Posted by: segastyle | July 14, 2009 11:21 AM

Rasho Nesterovic or Jamaal Magloire would have been better, but I guess since Detroit has to pay Olberto two million, he probably smells like more of a bargain to Abe Polin.

Oh well. Could be worse, I guess.

If Blatche and McGee would step it up a notch it may not make much difference. I suspect the Wizards' season is squarely on those two guys' shoulders.

For Blatche -- he should be a freakin consistent contributor at this point. If he can't get it together this year, then perhaps Ernie could trade his 'unrealized potential' for another Caron Butler caliber player like he did with Kwame Brown.

Posted by: Independent11 | July 14, 2009 11:24 AM

do you watch basketball?

Oberto is no more explosive than blair and comparably husky. i don't see how blair wasn't worth a 2nd rd pick but Oberto an over the hill, twice let go, stiff is worth 3.8 mill. i didn't evem know about berto's foot and heart probs.

Do you read? My assesment of Blair had nothing to do with Oberto. Oberto is like what 6'10'' 250? Blair is 6'6'' 280? They're comparibly husky? Really? The only thing Blair is comparibly husky to is a UConn Husky...like the mascot.

Okay. What role what Blair play if we did draft him?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 11:25 AM

2.6pts and 2.6 rebs in 54 games last year
3.6pts and 3.9 rebs per game career avg . i'd bet that blair could get those numbers for us.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 11:28 AM

All Andray needs to do is finish ABOVE the rim like a 22 year old should instead breaking out his Olajuwon up-and-under moves down low.

I don't like him because he's too cavalier on AND off the court plus his fitness level stinks.

I've heard rumors that the fool has gone to practice so hung over that he might have been still drunk from the night before.

Posted by: elfreako | July 14, 2009 11:29 AM

Pech can't play at the NBA level.

Posted by: john24 | July 14, 2009 11:34 AM

"Okay. What role what Blair play if we did draft him? Posted by: SDMDTSU"

Blair would play the role of the guy that the fanz on this blog insist should be starting instead of whoever is in front of him. He would be required to have a high PER so fanz could obsessively point to that as justification for their complaints.

A tough job, but seems like every season, we need one.

By the way, if unfortunately one of Blair's ligaments gave out, he would then be required to shift into the role of PWWTEHNSHD, an acronym for "Player We Told Ernie He Never Should Have Drafted".

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:35 AM

" Oberto is like what 6'10'' 250? Blair is 6'6'' 280? They're comparibly husky?"

They both have thick ankles.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:37 AM

"Rasho Nesterovic or Jamaal Magloire would have been better"

Nesterovic maybe, but Magloire looks done.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:45 AM

"For Blatche -- he should be a freakin consistent contributor at this point. If he can't get it together this year, then perhaps Ernie could trade his 'unrealized potential' for another Caron Butler caliber player like he did with Kwame Brown.Posted by: Independent11"

Apologize for repeating myself, but he is a fairly consistent contributor. What he's not is a star. Also, he's not a real NBA center, which doesn't make things easier when he has to play there.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:47 AM

"2.6pts and 2.6 rebs in 54 games last year. 3.6pts and 3.9 rebs per game career avg . i'd bet that blair could get those numbers for us."

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 11:28 AM

Blair might put up comparable numbers but he will also likely make more than a few rookie mistakes that will cost his team some games. Stuff like poor defensive positioning, not being aware of the shot clock, going for offensive rebounds when he should be getting back on D, etc.

Posted by: yop32 | July 14, 2009 11:54 AM

"Apologize for repeating myself, but he is a fairly consistent contributor.

He's consistent in the sense that he does tend to do the same things over and over again. Problem is, he tends to do a lot of things over and over that he shouldn't be doing (e.g., shying away from contact around the basket, dribbling into traffic and bouncing the ball off his own foot, dribbling into traffic and committing offensive fouls, dribbling into traffic and flinging the ball out of bounds on unnecessarily on ill-advised pass attempts, pounding the ball into the floor 18 feet from the basket and firing up last second, off-balance jumpers).

He doesn't have to be a star to eliminate those things from his game. He just has to play with focus and a high bball I.Q. Those are things that, so far, he has consistently failed to do.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2009 12:00 PM

"Nesterovic maybe, but Magloire looks done."

The fact that Magloire actually made it onto the All-Star a team a few years ago was a scathing indictment of the quality of big men in the East.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2009 12:04 PM

i'd bet that blair could get those numbers for us.

LINDA Blair could get those numbers for us.

Posted by: original_mark | July 14, 2009 12:20 PM

Not only is Oberto cheap, he's SUBSIDIZED!!!

He's a big body who'll play some D, coral a few rebounds, spell BTH for bit and most importantly, will not take any touches or shots away from any of the run'n gun Wizards.

If he does come here, I will feel a lot better knowing that we can still trade Supernanny and possibly MeShawn. The roster may not bring home any hardware or parades, but I will be satisfied knowing that the mix of players will be optimal. Coming off 19 wins, I can be happy with that.

Posted by: mabkhar | July 14, 2009 12:28 PM

AB had a 19.6 PER rating when he played Center. His opponents has somewhere in the area of 18. I have to echo some other persons question...Do a lot of folks here actually watch the games?

AB is a good player with a chance to be a very good player with good coaching. He is one of the most talented overall players we have yet he catches hell on this blog. If you watch him play, you can see that offensively not many teams have an answer for him. He's also a very good passer for his position. He dribbles too much but that can be taught.

Compare defensive stats and turnovers between Cb and Ab.

Per 36 minutes, Ab's stats last year were 15 and 8 with 1.6 blocks. His assists and turnovers were even (terrible) but he's not as bad as some here would make him out to be.

Posted by: original_mark | July 14, 2009 12:59 PM

i doubt anyone on this blog has seen enough of oberto to know what he might do here. what we do know is that he was cut. in early summer. we ain't talking bout october. or after the summer league. i trust joe dumars's judgement on this: the guy is a nothing. and i'll publicly eat my words IF we sign and he plays better than his 3.whatever career avg in points and boards. let's give all those minutes to blatche and mcgee, and hire a big man coach instead of trying to find a cheap never-has-been player to teach our young frontcourt players how to play. damaged goods will not help this team.

Posted by: dcjazzman | July 14, 2009 1:05 PM

Blair's height and weight vary depending on the site. Listed as either 6'6 or 6'7, weight ranges from 265-277, so his offseason conditioning will be the deciding factor. He could provide some energy, and picked a double double in summer league last night, but whether him or oberto, less minutes for them is a good sign.

Speaking of signs, can we sign a big man who will actually CONTRIBUTE??? If they were thinking of getting a frontcourt player worth something, would they need oberto?

Feeling pessimistic, but I'll try to check out the some summer league action anyway

Posted by: bigtriumverate | July 14, 2009 1:23 PM

when are the Wizards going to learn that you can't make a meal from every other teams scraps. you think they would have learned from the Howard contract to stop giving money away and years down the line you're stuck with an overpriced average player with no talent around him. start drafting young keys and let them become a team instead of just dropping random ingredients into the team soup

Posted by: rld000 | July 14, 2009 1:24 PM

"Blair's height and weight vary depending on the site. Listed as either 6'6 or 6'7, weight ranges from 265-277, so his offseason conditioning will be the deciding factor."

Far as I can tell, the measurements on draftexpress are the NBA measurements. Blair is listed at 6'5.25" in socks and 6'6.5" in sneakers. That puts him at 26th tallest in the class. He's essentially the same height as Demar DeRozan of USC, Jeff Adrien of Connecticut, and Danny Green of UNC.

On the other hand, he's the heaviest guy in the draft class, ahead of Thabeet and BJ Mullens. That's at his reduced combine weight of 277. He probably played at close to 300 during the year.

Blair has an exceptional 7'2" wingspan, which helps on defense, but his standing reach is a less impressive 8'10.5" -- better than Griffin and Hansbrough, but not players like Austin Daye, Earl Clark, and Taj Gibson, and much less than Thabeet or BJ Mullens. Blair's a good jumper when he gets a run-up (33 inches) but not so much from a standing start (26"). He's not as good a leaper as Heytvelt, for instance. Blair's no-step vertical reach is 11'.05", while Josh Heytvelt gets up an additional four inches.

Come to think of it, why didn't somebody draft Heytvelt?

In the agility drill, Blair was a little ahead of Heytvelt, about tied with Taj Gibson, and way behind Blake Griffin. In fact, Griffin is just quicker than the other strong guys in this class.

The best comparison for Blair seemed to be James Johnson, who went in the first round. He's taller and a better jumper, but not quite as bulky.

Still, there's no explanation IMO for why Blair fell to the second round, unless it's medical.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 2:08 PM

"I have to echo some other persons question...Do a lot of folks here actually watch the games?"

Yes, but apparently we're seeing different games. Blatche is skilled, and the numbers are kind to him, at least more than I'd expect based on what we read here on the blog. PER likes him, for what that's worth, which probably isn't all that much. IMO he's not an NBA regular at center -- and, I'm guessing, nor does he want to be.

Whatever the reason, he has to produce this year, because the Wiz have nobody else.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 2:15 PM

ACL surgery on both knees and carrying almost 300 pounds on them. In addition to being a 6'6'' PF are definite reasons teams may have left him alone.

Being 6'6'' you have to have exceptional athleticism, or something to separate yourself. The physicality he displayed in college won't be as effective in the NBA. Besides he's 6'6'' did I mention that? Seriously, what do you expect him to become? He ultimate ceiling is a Reggie Evans clone. Not bad...but you guys act like he's the next Charles Barkley.

Please stop.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 2:28 PM

was chuck a 2nd rd pick. lay off the straw man he's fragile. no one said that blair was the second coming of barkley. it's just hard not to ask why not take a risk on a 23 year old big east player of the year/certified beast for a couple hundred thou, if you're gonna end up payind a few mill for a 34-35 year old retread with career avgs of 3pts and 4 rebs. i understand your rationale with the injuries, but as John Thompson asked on the radio "have you seen him limping?" " did his knees buckle when he threw thabeet over his back?"

There's always risk involved when you go out and get a guy. the risk would naturally increase given said player's history or injury. that being said, how would we be better off getting a 34-35 year old with a history of heart problems?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 2:37 PM

"There's always risk involved when you go out and get a guy. the risk would naturally increase given said player's history or injury. that being said, how would we be better off getting a 34-35 year old with a history of heart problems?
Posted by: lilhollywood10"

Are you forgetting the two and a half million bucks?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 2:49 PM

was chuck a 2nd rd pick. lay off the straw man he's fragile. no one said that blair was the second coming of barkley. it's just hard not to ask why not take a risk on a 23 year old big east player of the year/certified beast for a couple hundred thou, if you're gonna end up payind a few mill for a 34-35 year old retread with career avgs of 3pts and 4 rebs. i understand your rationale with the injuries, but as John Thompson asked on the radio "have you seen him limping?" " did his knees buckle when he threw thabeet over his back?"

There's always risk involved when you go out and get a guy. the risk would naturally increase given said player's history or injury. that being said, how would we be better off getting a 34-35 year old with a history of heart problems?

Chuck wasn't a 2nd round pick, but he was the only 6'5" PF that succeeded in the NBA that I can think of. We don't need Blair. It's a veteran team. They got 2.5 million for the pick. Who is to say they hadn't already sold the pick? Nobody expected Blair to be there. People are acting like drafting DeJuan Blair is the reason we won't win a championship. It's getting ridiculous.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 2:59 PM

SDMDTSU, I'm looking at Blair vs whoever we pick up now since we're looking for a backup big. (PF or C).
He aint Barkley but he's better than Oberto. I realize Oberto is a C and he's a PF.
Funny, the closest I can remember to Blair physically is Wes Unseld. Short, strong, average athleticism and beasts on the board. I think we couldve used him.

Posted by: original_mark | July 14, 2009 3:03 PM

Blair hasn't even put on a real jersey yet. I'm not ready to say he's better than anybody. For a team with defensive liabilites adding a 6'6'' PF sure helps with that.

You really think they're gonna let him bulldoze and bully his way in the lane like college? No sir. Not in the soft NBA you see now. I don't see it.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 3:05 PM

People are acting like drafting DeJuan Blair is the reason we won't win a championship. It's getting ridiculous.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 14, 2009 2:59 PM

we won't win a championship b/c the team just isn't good enough (please make me eat my words). once again blair is just a player, however, if he is healthy he is a player that fits our needs for rebounding and toughness. i think all of your arguments are valid reasons not to hinge your teams fortune on Blair. that is why most people thought he'd have been a good pick in the 2nd rd vs those crazy 1st rd projections from weeks b4 the draft.

we passed on a shot at drafting a pf who coulda helped us and now we are scouring the scrapheap for a pf to come and help us. but hey we're here now lets see how it works out, maybe we don't really need another big.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2009 3:39 PM

Lot of chatter over a guy who, if things go well, will likely not play very much if at all. If Oberto is playing significant minutes, it's because Haywood is hurt or the the young guys flamed out. In either case, the Wiz will be in deep trouble.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2009 11:03 AM
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There is a lot of chatter about a lot of guys that if things go well will not play very much at all. But, I think Oberto fills the void of a legit sized guy who can guard power players in the post on some nights and not be a liability on the court. Most games McGee and maybe Blatche will fill the void of backup center. But, against the Orlando/Cleveland/Boston's, we need another option at center other than BH and McGee especially when the playoffs roll around. And, hey, Oberto's got a championship ring as well.

BTW, now people are comparing Oberto with Blair? Are you serious? Whether it's style, size, or whatever, there is no comparison. Oberto has a championship ring as a starter in the NBA. He is a legit sized center with solid fundamentals and a basketball IQ. Blair is a big unknown in more ways than one. There is nothing to compare and I would take Oberto for a season or two over Blair in a second!

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Posted by: purpleenergy | July 16, 2009 11:28 AM

LOL...Oberto.
That should get us over the hump.
He's basically a more goonish Songalia.

We will be a bordeline 7/8 seed and will go one and done in the playoffs.

Thank god we have cap space next year....oh wait....LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Posted by: jdgreger@yahoo.com | July 16, 2009 2:16 PM

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