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You Asked, I'll Answer (Part II)

Question No. 2, From flohrtv:
Any thought of using Jamison off the bench at the 4? Having Jamison and Miller to anchor the bench unit behind a starting unit of Haywood, Blatche, Butler, Foye and Arenas, would give the Wizards one of the league's most explosive benches.

What is it going to take for some Wizards fans to start appreciating Antawn Jamison? I really don't see why you would have him coming off the bench when he's proven that he can score his points and perform at an all-star level playing alongside both Gilbert Arenas and Caron Butler (and Larry Hughes before Butler).

A few years ago, a number of fans were fixated on trading Jamison, and based on some of the comments I've read here, a new horde is asking the man to come off the bench. Why? I get the argument that Jamison is 33 and recently had surgery to remove some bone spurs from his ankle. With Jamison coming off the bench, you could limit his minutes and possibly prolong his career. Blah, blah, blah. But he's got three years left on his deal and I honestly haven't seen anything to make me believe that there has been the significant decline in his production or mobility to warrant such a move. It's not like his game is predicated on athleticism or speed.


Do I look like someone who enjoys sitting on the bench? (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images North America)

I think some people tend to overlook or neglect that Jamison shot 46.8 percent from the field (his best ever in five seasons with the Wizards), averaged 8.9 rebounds (the third-best total in his career) and played 81 games last season. He also logged 3,000 minutes for the sixth time in his career. Jamison gets buckets, son (ask Pech), but he does so quickly and within the flow of the offense. He averaged 22.2 points on 18 shots a game last season and over his career, he averages 19.9 points on 17 shots. You need that sort of low-maintenance production on the floor more often than not.

Jamison has averaged at least 19.5 points and 7.5 rebounds in each of the past five seasons in Washington. Do you know how many other players can make that claim? The list is shorter than you think. Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett aren't on it (although they have each won championships in that span). Chris Bosh has done it four seasons in a row. Amaré Stoudemire has done it the past three seasons (and five of the past six). Dwight Howard has done it the past two seasons. Elton Brand had done it four consecutive seasons before missing most of the past two seasons with injuries. Carlos Boozer did it two years in a row before he got hurt last season. Pau Gasol has come close.

So, who does that leave? According to Elias Sports Bureau, it's just Jamison and Dirk Nowitzki. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Jamison is pretty good.

Yes, Jamison came off the bench in Dallas and he won sixth man of the year. But guess what? He was backing up Nowitzki. Did Ernie Grunfeld pull off a trade for Bosh or Stoudemire that I'm not aware of?

You want to start Andray Blatche ahead of Jamison? Based on what? He hasn't shown the consistency through his first four years to bump Jamison to the bench. Would you rather see JaVale McGee? He has promise, but his time will come. Fabricio Oberto? Um, no. I don't recall any of those guys consistently creating matchup problems for opposing defenses. I also don't think either one of those guys has a reputation for being a dominant defensive player or a dangerous low post threat, which is the only way you could justify Jamison's demotion.

Cleveland wanted to acquire Jamison at the trade deadline with the hopes of using him as a sixth man, but the Cavaliers are built differently than the Wizards. The Cavaliers want to suffocate you with defense; the Wizards provide an avalanche of offense, which creates the best atmosphere for Jamison to excel -- as a starter.

Jamison has his flaws. He's undersized at the 4, too slow to play small forward. He's effective on one end of the floor. But until there is an obvious deterioration in skills or his production starts coming at the expense of winning (last year's 19-63 aberration not included), Jamison should continue to have the public address announcer call his name with the Wizards' first five.

Question No. 3, From prescrunk:
Do you envision Deshawn Stevenson starting again? [H]e is after-all our only lockdown defender and proven spot-up shooter (when healthy). How is Deshawn's back?

I think the starting shooting guard spot will be settled in Richmond during training camp, when Stevenson, Mike Miller, Randy Foye and possibly Nick Young slug it out in a Rock 'em, Sock 'em cage match in the octagon. Okay, maybe it won't be that intense. But it should be a really good competition.


Don't count me out. (Photo by Drew Hallowell/Getty Images North America)

Stevenson is limited offensively but he is a tough competitor and before he suffered that back ailment, he was one of the best perimeter defenders on the team (for whatever that was worth). Having someone on the floor who isn't afraid to mix it up and get dirty on the defensive end is something the Wizards may need to balance the three-pronged offensive attack of Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison.

Grunfeld acquired Miller and Foye to strengthen the backcourt with players who are capable of generating their own offense and playing off of Arenas. Concerns over Stevenson's ability to recover from back surgery at age 28 may have also prompted the trade, but Stevenson is feeling better after working out with trainer Alex McKechnie in Vancouver, B.C. He told me last month that he has lost nearly 20 pounds since the season ended.

Miller adds some size and more consistent perimeter shooting than Stevenson, but he's never been known for his defense. Foye is a solid scorer who told me that he enjoys playing defense but I don't know if he's capable of guarding starting shooting guards every night. Either way, those two will be Flip Saunders's regular rotation, eight-man or otherwise.

I think Stevenson will be given every opportunity to reclaim the starting spot that he lost to Dominic McGuire last season because of his back injury. A lot of people are down on Stevenson because they vividly recall him missing almost seven of every 10 jumpers he took last season (and waving his hand in front of his face on the rare occasions that he actually made a shot). But I think people forget that when he played alongside Arenas in 2006-07 (Arenas's Takeover season), Stevenson shot more than 50 percent most of the season and finished shooting a career-high 46.1 percent. Arenas has been mostly absent the past two seasons, meaning that Stevenson's jump shot has disappeared as well with fewer open looks.

With Arenas expected to return, the Wizards need to have a backcourt mate who won't get in his way. A healthy Stevenson has a chance, but he still has prove himself worthy of the starting job with more backcourt options at Saunders's disposal. If his back surgery has slowed down his lateral quickness and ability to defend, then benching him won't be a difficult decision at all.

By Michael Lee  |  September 2, 2009; 9:09 AM ET
 
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Great answers. Two of the players most hated on this board with logical reasoning on their status instead of "DS can't shoot!"

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Thank you very much for you take on Jamison! I don't understand what more these posters want a man to do. He played virtually EVERY game last year at the highest level. Regardless that the team stunk like a dead rat most of the season. He still came out and competed in every game as if they were going for the championship. You could book a double,double pretty much every game for Jamison and still according to the fans here on this post, it was still not enough. They want to trade away pretty much everyone on the team. I don't understand why they can't see his value. It baffles and angers the hell out of me.

True Blue Wiz Fan!

Posted by: ivyleague | September 2, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Mike for coming to the defense of Jamison. I've never quite understood how those who criticize Jamison justify their criticism. The man has been averaging close to a double-double for years now. He was one of the few consistent bright spots in an otherwise dreadful season last year.

Posted by: RobinsonCrusoe | September 2, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Folks want AJ to come off the bench because they are enthralled with Blatche's 'upside' and 'potential'. Fact is, this kid's talent is overshadowed by his 'Kwame-like' immaturity and inconsistency. He lacks professionalism.

Stevenson is a clown; a less talented JR Rider. If he'd just shut up and play, he'd speak louder than all his moronic antics have sofar.

Posted by: kahlua87 | September 2, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Preach it Mike Lee! It's nuts how many come down on Jamison when all the guy does is bring it EVERY night, produce on a rare level for the league, and be the consummate professional while goof-offs like AB and NY cant even have their lockers near each other.

Thanks for those points per shots stats, great stuff. I'd bet those number compare favorably with just about any player in the league.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

The point with Jamison is that an undersized, unorthodox PF amplifies the team's biggest weakness: its softeness. I acknowledge that the alternatives (Blatche, JaVale) offer few guarantees but as long as Jamison is getting his 30 minutes a game, I like the idea of starting Blatche or McGee to see if they have it going and bringing Jamison off the bench. Certainly come playoff time, being tougher down low will help immensely.

Posted by: mugsybol | September 2, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Starting Blatche does nothing to address the "softness" at PF because Blatche is as soft as chocolate mousse at a 4-star french restaurant. The only thing Blatche does better than Jamison is be taller. But since he plays like a 6' 3" guard, that's not really an asset.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I agree that Jamison is our best "4," and deserves to start. I still think that the ideal situation, however, would be for him to come off the bench, so as to better hide his defensive shortcomings. To allow that to happen, though, we have to find other, better big forwards than we currently have on the roster.

Posted by: rbpalmer | September 2, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Stevenson is a clown; a less talented JR Rider. If he'd just shut up and play, he'd speak louder than all his moronic antics have sofar.

Posted by: kahlua87 | September 2, 2009 10:05 AM

ur an idiot. he rofl held the nba record for second most consecutive starts. but he doesn't "shut up and play"?? he isnt even an outspoken guy. ur the clown. go play in traffic

Posted by: prescrunk | September 2, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

The fact is that if the Wizards are to contend for a champsionship, they will need a very good defender at either the power forward or small forward position. Right now they have neither. Part of the Jamison-to-the-bench movement is based on this fundamental point: Defense. If Caron Butler can become a very good defender, then perhaps the Wizards can weather Jamison's poor D by surrounding him with Butler and Haywood. If Blatche develops into a very good defender, then moving Jamison to the bench (to still pay 30+ minutes) makes sense. But right now, the Wizards don't have a good enough player to plug into the PF spot to make moving Jamison to the 6th man role a smart move.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | September 2, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Dirk doesnt play D worth a lick, and is about as soft as it gets at PF...yet is a former MVP.

I'm not saying Jamison is as good as Dirk, but he sure spends more time in the paint grabbing rebounds than the sharpshooting German.

Point being, it ain't like Jamison is the only non-banger PF in the nba these days.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Jamison is one of the most efficient/in the flow of the game scorers I've ever seen and also a great defensive rebounder, he gets a lot of put backs, and just plays within the flow and gets his numbers every night and seems like a great locker room guy. He is hugely underrated.

But... IMO, to be a top team in the league you can't have 2 starters on a team that are big defensive liabilities like Jamison and Arenas at the same time. Jamison is one of the slowest lateral defenders I've ever seen, seriously. If Arenas doesn't step up his defense (which I think he is capable of unlike Jamison) they are not gonna be a serious contender IMO.

If the Wiz had a 4 who played great D and was efficient on offense but wasn't of the caliber of Jamison on offense, I would start that player and have Jamison off the bench as the 6th man. Unfortunately I don't think we have that player........... yet!

Posted by: rock77music | September 2, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

It isn't 1999 anymore. Name me one good team with 2 BIGMAN big men. The two 4's in the finals last year were Lamar Odom and Rashard Lewis....

Jamison is not soft player. He's a tough, scrappy player. He rebounds. He fights for position. He's not a weakside shot blocker and he can't guard Dwight Howard, sorry. All in all, he's an average defender, not a terrible one.

He's also a great match with the returning Haywood, who plays defense but is unskilled. Can't have two of those guys together because it clogs the paint.

Posted by: GshawnJohnson | September 2, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Antwann Jamison can score, everyone knows that. The problem is he can't stop anybody else from scoring and the dropoff for him is in the playoffs when defense and physical play become huge, he brings neither. He struggles to get CONTESTED rebounds. He is not a clutch shooter. He's a captain of this team, if the captain plays no D, how can you expect anyone else to. Bring him off the bench. There are times when he's not scoring and if he's not, he has nothing else to contribute.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

2 years ago in the playoffs with Gil and Caron out, Jamison averaged 32/10 for the series against Cleveland.

Yes, we were swept. But 32/10 in the playoffs speaks for itself and you cant ask for more.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Stevenson won't even make the team... he is overpaid, and way overrated..

Posted by: bills_2_cents | September 2, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Kal: Sad to say but your point on Blatche is right on. Let's hope Flip can get him to see that his minutes depend on being a high-energy guy whose minutes depend on his ability to get in there and mix it up. Time to drop the Garnett comparisons and settle for Dale Davis. Any thoughts on McGee at 4 and Haywood at 5? While I wouldn't call McGee tough, he can change a lot of shots down low especially if he learns to keep his feet and with some more strength, he should be able to grab plenty of tough rebounds.

Posted by: mugsybol | September 2, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

DIVI3,

"2 years ago in the playoffs, No Gil, No Caron, Antwann gets 32/10". Gil or Caron would have comparable numbers if they were by themselves as well and they got SWEPT, well thats the worst part. It meant nothing.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Mike. No offense to Ivan, but you are a definite upgrade here with your coverage and blogging. I can' wait for training camp. Go Bullets!

Posted by: lavar609 | September 2, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Mike,

As Doc Walker would be inclined to say, "You came hard to the mic' on this one!"

Those that continually besmirch AJ are clear examples of those that cannot see THE FOREST FOR THE TREES.

They fail miserably to realize that AJ has been doing a Yeomens job since he has been here.

He has excelled at the PF position, even though he I believe should really be a Three.

Ideally, I would like to see Blatche or McGee push hard enough to warrant quality 4 minutes and push AJ to the three and Butler to the two.

That set with Gilbert would really give some problems to Teams. It would allow, scoring still, quickness, more toughness, and rebounds.

Now thats what the 'The Haters' and 'The Can't See The Forest For The Trees Should Be Talking About."

Iffing Ya Don' Kno' Ya' Beddar' Ask Somebody.

You Tellum" Mike.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

'Gil or Caron would have comparable numbers if they were by themselves as well'

that's debatable but my point is Gil/Caron/Tawn are not the problem for this team, they're the positives. So I dont get why people are eager to push Jamison to the bench in favor of a knucklehead who not a single coach in the nba would consider starting in front of AJ.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree with your assessments of AJ & DS.
AJ has been bashed so often here that it makes you wonder how much some posters know about basketball. Do they watch the games?
Sitting him down to be 6th man makes no sense.
It would be like not starting Pierce or Duncan. I do think that his minutes need to be reduced to keep him fresher for the run to the playoffs along with the other starters. Last years player development made no sense. It was a rare chance to see who could play under game time conditions. AJ playing 40min/game = stupid for him and the team.

DS, by some of his antics, has turned some off. Me included but when he is healthy he plays hard and is a nice complement to the big 3.

Posted by: VBFan | September 2, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

2 years ago in the playoffs with Gil and Caron out, Jamison averaged 32/10 for the series against Cleveland.

Yes, we were swept. But 32/10 in the playoffs speaks for itself and you cant ask for more.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 10:41 AM
i think it may also speak for AJ's ability to get HIS numbers in spite of team success. 32/10 avg while getting swept, 20/9 avg over a 19 win season. when does winning matter? he has been consistent however the wiz have stayed in the same place or gotten worse with AJ (and GA,CB,BH,AB). at some point this team has to become a contender, i feel that it may come with the loss of one of the big three.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Micheal,
I Like Jamison, I'm not one of his detractors. Using a guy in a sixth man role isn't "sending him to the bench".

In the modern era of huge salaries few guys are willing to play a sixth man role. But Jamison's already got his contract. When he's due for his next deal he should be looking to prove that he can produce in a sixth man or veteran reserve role.

If you go back and look at the Celtics. Was Robert Parrish or Kevin McHale the 6th best player on the Celtics when they were coming off the bench? Was Havilcek?

Being able to score efficently, and in bunches is the exact reason to put a player in the 6th man role. Shot distribution is another, when Arenas or Butler go to the bench having a veteran scorer on the floor is going to be key.

6th men have gone out of style in the NBA because everybody's playing for a contract. I really thought that Jamison has reached the point of his career that he'd be the ideal guy to fill the role.

The Celtics always over run teams with offense once their 6th man came on the floor rested and ready to go. I think Jamison and the Wizards could do the same.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | September 2, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Michael, what is/will be the effect on the Wiz of the poor economy, salary cap/luxury tax decline? Do you think it will make it easier or harder to re-sign our free agents? On the one hand, the lower luxury tax threshhold means a bigger tax hit. On the other hand, maybe there will be fewer suitors for our free agents, so we might be able to re-sign them relatively cheaply.

Posted by: yop32 | September 2, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry but those weren't great answers. AJ is a great guy and has his strengths but his D at the 4 is TERRIBLE. Watch everytime the Wiz get broken down and usually AJ is a key culprit either directly by his man or he is late on a rotation. He is a great candidate for a 6th man as he showed in Dallas. He can come off the bench slinging and keep scoring on the floor when Butler and Arenas sit down. That also allows his to match-up on D often against the other teams bench rather than on the starter where his poor D allows people to get in a grove. I would actually start DM somewhere to get his rebounding and D on the floor. Role players like DM around great scorers like Gilbert are how champions get built.

Posted by: restonhoops | September 2, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

When Dallas signed Jamison, he was supposed to start alongside of Dirk, not backup Dirk. Then Dallas unexpectedly got Antoine Walker (thanks to Ainge), and since Nellie likes to play "point forward," so Walker started, and Jamison became the 6th man.

Posted by: sagaliba | September 2, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

'Gil or Caron would have comparable numbers if they were by themselves as well'

that's debatable but my point is Gil/Caron/Tawn are not the problem for this team, they're the positives. So I dont get why people are eager to push Jamison to the bench in favor of a knucklehead who not a single coach in the nba would consider starting in front of AJ.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 11:11 AM
while they are all positives for the team i think they can bring problems too. how long do you hold on to the big 3 and wait for a 'chip while not drafting players and alienating your young talent. flip is trying to build relationships w/all the players so maybe the youngins won't feel like outcasts this year. but the question remains, when are we gonna win? what mix will be right?

the big 3 are entertaining. they are skilled, talented and have all been an all star at least once. you can't call any of them a winner though, and especially not here in DC.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

When Dallas signed Jamison, he was supposed to start alongside of Dirk, not backup Dirk. Then Dallas unexpectedly got Antoine Walker (thanks to Ainge), and since Nellie likes to play "point forward," so Walker started, and Jamison became the 6th man.

Posted by: sagaliba | September 2, 2009 11:18 AM
A Wax ain't even in the L no more, and he took AJ's job?LMAO

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Love your answer on Q1...woudn't add/change a thing.

On #2, I think one thing people overlook is DStevenson's lack of playmaking ability (which is exactly why LHughes was such a nice complement to Arenas). I actually see MM or RF as much better playmakers, thus would be a better fit on the offensive side of the ball. If I were Flip, I would use DSteve (and DMcGuire) as my defensive stoppers. There mins would be a little lumpy, but they would be in my rotation based on need...

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | September 2, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"..alienating your young talent"

Who has been alienated? AB? That guy has been given every possible opportunity and instead of looking in the mirror blames Eddie Jordan for being mean to him.

Nick Young? As lazy as any player in the nba, in love with watching his own shot fall and not much else. The way he currently plays doesnt do us much good.

DomMcguire? Kid earned all the PT he gets, good for him.

Pech? Fan fav who sucked. Poor kid was lost 80% of the time on the floor, hopefully works out better for him on Minny.

I agree 100% EJs rotations often mystified me...but the lack of the youngsters pushing the starters for minutes is because the starters are simply far superior players...imho

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

What you Jameson lovers won't admit is that he gives up as many points as he scores. He might be the worst defender in basketball. Stevenson is an automatic brick.

Posted by: larrypalma | September 2, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

one thing to add on #1. I see a lot of posts about Jamison's defensive deficiencies...and they are right. But the choice isn't Jamison vs KG...or Jamison vs TDuncan....the choice is Jamison vs ABlatche/McGee.

Given our existing options...Jamison is BY FAR the best option at starting 4.

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | September 2, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

'What you Jameson lovers won't admit is that he gives up as many points as he scores.'

Jamison is a horrid defender, no argument there. But it's certainly not for lack of effort, it's for inability to move laterally.

BUT

he +4.4 over the PFs he played against last season, Blatche was -1.7

so until Tim Duncan comes walking through that door...

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

So, Mike, what do you really think of Jamison? LOL.
Nice to have a knowledgeable WP reporter answer intelligently the fans questions.

Posted by: hock1 | September 2, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Okay, maybe I agree that we don't have a player on this team that can take AJs place at the starting 4. I do believe that his shortcomings really hurt this team. I'd take a 25-28 year old 15 and 10 guy who plays D, mixes it up down low for about 3 to 7 mil a year. I'd hate to see Lebron James blowing by AJ in the playoffs AGAIN for a winning bucket. Some of you say he brings it. Bringing it means getting physical. AJ is a smart player, he doesn't touch people on defense or offense, that's why you see the flipsy shots, he's saving his body to keep making the big dough. Can't hate that, but we can win with a 4 who will not get physical with the team that we have.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Well put, Mike. But if Foye can't outplay DS at the 2, then the Wiz are bound for only 44 wins. Nevertheless, I see Foye jelling with Arenas and the Wiz at 50 wins.

If Foye starts, you have to then look at the 5 man-combos when the bench is playing and it doesn't seem that DS brings much value to any of them. In other words, without playing next to Arenas (a high-scoring ball-handler that draws double coverage), DS doesn't bring much to the party. That's why no other team would pay him many $$.

Posted by: Izman | September 2, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

LarryPalma

"What you Jameson lovers won't admit is that he gives up as many points as he scores. He might be the worst defender in basketball."

You speak the truth!! Stevenson shouldn't be on this team anymore, package him and Mike James for a big. You got Gil, Crittenton, Nick, Foye, Miller, that's enough.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Antwann Jamison can score, everyone knows that. The problem is he can't stop anybody else from scoring and the dropoff for him is in the playoffs when defense and physical play become huge, he brings neither. He struggles to get CONTESTED rebounds. He is not a clutch shooter. He's a captain of this team, if the captain plays no D, how can you expect anyone else to. Bring him off the bench. There are times when he's not scoring and if he's not, he has nothing else to contribute.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 10:36 AM

All well and good, but whom do you propose the Wizards start at 4? Blatche, who isn't any more physical, doesn't play nearly as hard as AJ does and disappears for long stretches of most games (which is pretty hard for a guy his size!)? McGuire, who (like AJ) lacks ideal size to play the position and couldn't throw a rock in the ocean if he was standing on the pier? McGee, who's a center and whom we need backing up Haywood? AJ is an effective scorer and rebounder and the best "4" that the Wizards have, and until they get someone better, he should be starting.

Posted by: rbpalmer | September 2, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Jamison is not the problem on this team, as I have said before. Depth was the problem before. The players outside of the Big 3 contributed minimally at best. Haywood improved. Blatche, although inconsistent, is an improvement over Michael Ruffin. Nick is an improvement over Jarvis. Foye and Miller are upgrades, and so is Critt. Even DeShawn is an improvement over Jeffries. Factor in JaVale and Oberto and take out Etan and you got a winning combination. They may not win the whole thing but...if you want to call them losers, than LeBron and Dwight would be too

Posted by: G-Man11 | September 2, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

'Stevenson shouldn't be on this team anymore, package him and Mike James for a big'

and while we're at it, let's trade our rights to Peter John Ramos for Dwight Howard

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

div calling nick young lazy w/out merit is reckless. he's improved each of his years in dc and seems poised for a breakout if summer league critiques and what we hear from flip are fair assesments. i wouldn't call him the hardest worker on the team, but i don't know that he's lazy either.

BTW AJ like the look of his three point shot just about as much as nick luvs the fadeawy. the difference is Aj is on the floor for 30+ mins every night chucken them thangs while nick's minutes fluctuated between teens and thirties more than R. Kelly.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Jamison is not the problem on this team, as I have said before. Depth was the problem before. The players outside of the Big 3 contributed minimally at best. Haywood improved. Blatche, although inconsistent, is an improvement over Michael Ruffin. Nick is an improvement over Jarvis. Foye and Miller are upgrades, and so is Critt. Even DeShawn is an improvement over Jeffries. Factor in JaVale and Oberto and take out Etan and you got a winning combination. They may not win the whole thing but...if you want to call them losers, than LeBron and Dwight would be too

Posted by: G-Man11 | September 2, 2009 12:00 PM

so we've upgraded every position but the big 3 and still can't get it done. what's the logical conclusion?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

A Wax ain't even in the L no more, and he took AJ's job?LMAO

Posted by: lilhollywood10
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It was then, when A. Walker already had a few trips to the all-stars, while Jamison hadn't (Jamison got in as an all-star after he joined Wiz). Besides, as I said, Nellie likes to use "point forward," and Walker was/is a better ball handler.

Posted by: sagaliba | September 2, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

DIVI3,

not sure I get where you're coming from with the John Ramos/Howard thing..... not saying get Dwight Howard, just another big body, any big body. We have BH, JM, AB, Oberto, DM....we have 7 guards on this team. We have to play, SHAQ, D. HOWARD, KG and Rasheed, etc.. alot this year, we need help down low.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

stingem1,

Just a joke on my part, I thought you meant acquire a good big for James/Deshawn.

and to your actual point, you're right and i do think ernie will package a guard or two for a serviceable body later in the season.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

How about if I call Nick Young not serious enough rather than lazy?

The summer league stuff I read was 1)him bristling at being used like Rip Hamilton and 2)him never passing the ball and not understanding defensive assignments.

Scoring is effortless for NY, he needs to buckle down and work his butt off on the stuff that isnt so natural for him I think

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse


Hey Mike, love your comments on Jamison. He doesn't get any respect on this board and I don't understand why. When Gil and Caron was out 2 yrs ago. It was Jamison who battled with the Cavs in the playoffs. Jamison did everything he could to help the team win. Someone like Jamison who gives his all every night is very rare in the NBA. Blatche is a nice player but if given the starting spot he won't earn 2 all-star appearances like Jamison has. Let Blatche work his way up like most players have. When Gilbert was with Golden State he had to play his way into the starting rotation and the same goes with Blatche nothing is given to you it is earned. Blatche may have played well last season but the team overall didn't perform well.

I kind of think it's unfair Stevenson has to fight for a starting spot because of injuries last season. I'm not a Stevenson fan like I am with Jamison, but Stevenson has contributed to the team. He provides good defense and he does other things such as bringing the ball up court and he also helps out on the boards. I personally think training camp would be a battle for Young and Stevenson for the starting 2 spot and both Foye and Miller will battle for the sixth man role. One good thing about this is, Flip has a deep enough rooster where he can use all 4 guys in creative rotations to give opponents fits.

Posted by: rcnasa | September 2, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

so we've upgraded every position but the big 3 and still can't get it done. what's the logical conclusion?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 12:10 PM

How many teams will win it? Now, give me the team you would bet your house on right now that would win it. In case you don't know it, there are no guarantees as to who will win the championship. In my opinion, the wizards have as good a chance as any eastern conference team.

Posted by: G-Man11 | September 2, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

AJ off the bench (why?) because his sorry defense and rebounding allows other teams to set an easy early pace ... a grove he is powerless to help quall. Then his little one handed hooks bounce around at about 30% at close range ...the team is so out of sync when he does this that it's maddening...he then tried to speed down court but is way too late. We don't have to reduce his minutes, unless you won’t use your new pieces at all; but find ways to use him more effectively. That’s how he made his forte (a spark plug)

Posted by: aypub | September 2, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many players did Keith Wilkes stop, Earl the Pearl Monroe, Phil Chenier, Bobby Dandridge, and you can go on and on, Adrian Dantley, on and on, great offensive players who had great game that were tremendous assets to there Team.

You donot harp on and on about the fact they were not great defensive players because they would be named Dennis Rodman.

Basketball is a Team sport and the qualities that Antwann Jamison brings to the court would land him a starter on any Team.

His abilties and postitives far outweigh his negatives.

All players miss more shots than they make and if I have a player that rebounds consistently like Antwann Jamison, that is Defense to me.

Somes' of yawls' need to get a clue.

With the game that Jamison brings to the court his Defense is just fine for me.

And don't mess around and he starts to get time at the three. It will be lights out, like in 25 ppg and 12 rpg.

What. Knuff said knuckleheads.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

somehow a jumpshooting power forward who take 18 shots a game and never passes doesn't seem to be low maintenance to me but assuming miller, foye, and gil don't all get hurt he should have someone finding him open instead of simply handing him the ball and letting him go one on one like he was kobe, the brilliant tapscott plan, caron was also a stud in this 2 man game right, that's why we won 19?

Jamison's remarks during the course of last season about how other guys needed to step up, ended any shred of respect I had for him as our captain, he openly blasted his teammates to the media acting like he played no part in the losing because of his stats, the man is a zero on d and gets a pass, that's not ok, the lack of interior presence kills this team and jamison is the prime offender, he is a fine scorer and a smart player who positions himself well for rebounds, but that's all he's got, my question is what do you want your power forward to be. At one point last year he said he consciously tries to outscore his man, this is not the point having your power forward outscore the counterpart's power forward does not win you the game but it leaves aj feeling like the rest of the squad blew it. For now he is our best option as a starting pf, but that doesn't mean that I'm blindly in love with his production; I watch the games and know exactly how that production comes about, it ain't all sunshine and lollipops.

Posted by: bford1kb | September 2, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

"Time to drop the Garnett comparisons and settle for Dale Davis."

"Settling" for Dale Davis would imply Blatche is capable of playing like Davis. He's not. Davis was a bruiser, a hard core banger and tough guy. If Blatche had that in him, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

"I'm not saying Jamison is as good as Dirk, but he sure spends more time in the paint grabbing rebounds than the sharpshooting German."

Not really. Their career mpg and rpg averages are almost identical. (36.6/8.6 for Nowitzki, 36.8/8.0 for Jamison.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"The Celtics always over run teams with offense once their 6th man came on the floor rested and ready to go. I think Jamison and the Wizards could do the same.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | September 2, 2009 11:15 AM"

Probably the most sensible post on here.

Posted by: wisdom80 | September 2, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"AJ off the bench (why?) because his sorry defense and rebounding allows other teams to set an easy early pace ... "

You do realize he's the best rebounder on the team?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

by the way he did shoot 55 % in his one season coming off of the bench but he wasn't happy being the best sixth man in the league, message to the masses, aj wants his minutes and shots

Posted by: bford1kb | September 2, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

...old Scarface is a nice compliment to GA and CB's game. But without BH last season we saw how big a liability he is on defense. And even if he doesnt improve his defense, I would like to see AJ develop a nastier attitude. The Wiz need their front court guys to get a little mean and intimidating...this is primarily why I like the Oberto pickup--particularly with with the departure of whats his name.

Ultimately the Wiz have no real alternative to starting Scarface on this roster at the 2. I am sure if Ernie gets the oppty to add a scoring/defensive force in the paint, he will. I guess its one of the toughest positions to fill and we probably need to give AB one more chance to prove he is a man, albeit reluctantly.

So, how many of the projected NBA starting PFs would you really start over old Scarface on the Wiz team this year? Realistically, I can think of maybe 6 or 7. And of those, would any possibly be available for trade in January--maybe Boozer perhaps. So then do you start Boozer over AJ or bring Boozer off the bench at least for the remainder of the season and the playoffs?

If New Olreans is somehow not in the playoff hunt, I would love to see Ernie somehow pull off a trade for David West. With that kind of PF, this team really could afford to bring Scarface off the bench.

Posted by: oddjob1 | September 2, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Best rebounder as in most rebounds (hum by numbers only) all teams have leaders at certain catagories ... so what? He's about as physical as a banana. Some other's idea that he'd start anywhere else _wow - he didn't anywhere else or has the league gotten worst?

Posted by: aypub | September 2, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Not starting Jamison doesn't mean reducing his minutes or not leaving him in at crunch time, nor does it imply that he's any less effective. My coaches taught me it's who finishes the game not who starts that matters. I'm old enough to remember Hondo Havlicek, and Vinnie "microwave" Johnson.
Having a 6th man to turn on the heat and eat up 2nd string defenders is something that would help a team with plenty of 1st string scorers. Coaching greats Red Aurbach & Chuck Dailey knew about keeping one of your five best players on the bench. Has the game changed so much that this proven strategy no longer works?

Posted by: EngCo | September 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Jamison called out his teamates?? How dare a team capt do such a thing.

Especially with how sensitive Andre Blache is, can't risk ruining his dominant game with hurt feewlings

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

This team is built to score points in waves and bunches. To dare other teams to try and keep up.

The goal is to be top 2-3 in pts scored, and at least middling on D. That's the team we have.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"Best rebounder as in most rebounds (hum by numbers only) all teams have leaders at certain catagories ... so what? He's about as physical as a banana."

Last I checked, rebounds count the same regardless of how you get them. He gets more than any player on the team, so he's the best rebounder on the team. Which makes anyone who suggests that his rebounding actually hurts the team an idiot.

"Some other's idea that he'd start anywhere else _wow - he didn't anywhere else or has the league gotten worst?"

He's played on three teams in his career. He was a full-time starter on two of them. The one team he wasn't a starter on, he only played with for a single season. Of the 336 games he played for Golden State, he started 312 of them.

Anything else you'd care to get completely wrong, or are you done for the day?

"Not starting Jamison doesn't mean reducing his minutes or not leaving him in at crunch time, nor does it imply that he's any less effective."

No, but it does mean putting a less effective player in his place in the starting lineup, which increases the chances of the team getting off to a slow start (which they've had problems with in the past) and putting more pressure on the bench to dig them out of holes.

The question isn't whether Jamison will be less effective coming off the bench, it's what has Blatche done to make anyone think he'll be more effective starting than Jamison? What, exactly, has he proven himself so much better at than Jamison that his strap hangers are all worked up over?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

div calling nick young lazy w/out merit is reckless. he's improved each of his years in dc and seems poised for a breakout if summer league critiques and what we hear from flip are fair assesments. i wouldn't call him the hardest worker on the team, but i don't know that he's lazy either.

How has Nick Young improved? He's virtually the exact same player. With more of a green light to shoot last year. Where did he get better? And if you think Summer League is a goot meter on improvement you're crazy. A 3rd year vet/1st round pick should dominate rookies and re-treads. Don't forget Nick saying he was going to eventually go back to doing it his way. How has he improved but he still hasn't learned to get through a screen and laughs it off? Come on. Keep thinking he's going to earn clock by scoring. He's gonna have to bring something else. This team will not have a shortage of scoring. How do you have 0 assists until your 3rd summer league game being the focal point of the offense AND coming off screens which allows for better creation off the dribble?

so we've upgraded every position but the big 3 and still can't get it done. what's the logical conclusion?

They haven't started the season yet.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"Jamison calling out his teammates", I'm sorry, you can't call out anybody if you don't play D yourself and you shouldn't be a captain. Probably should get any post game interviews either and say the word "Defense"..

As for "Rebounds counting the same no matter how you get them". Uh...no, if there's nobody around you and you just get the board because you're the 4 under the basket, anyone on this blog can get those, it's those rebounds that we need in traffic that someone else is trying to get that we want a la Michael Ruffin. If someone else is trying to get the rebound, you can best believe Jamison won't beat them for it. Thats what true rebounders do, fight for the ball, AJ has no fight in him. He just scores.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I like this new format, which seems to go something like this:

1. Michael Lee answers a question including some reference to previous discussion on the blog.

2. A few dozen people post in response, half supporting Mike, the other half comparing his mental capacity to a potted plant.

3. A few dozen more people post in response to those posts, half in support, the rest comparing the various authors to employees of the Department of Motor Vehicles.

4. A few dozen additional posts are the work of trolls and sock puppets. Most of these attempt to be funny but are handicapped by the fact that they appear to have been composed in Polish, translated to Farsi, and translated back to Pidgin English prior to posting.

5. Mike answers another question.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

As unpopular as this comment will be, I actually thought Jamison played improved defense last year, especially in playing the passing lanes. I think AJ generated a lot of turnovers by jumping into passing lanes.

For those of you who want AJ coming off the bench, remember Eddie Jordan did exactly that with Caron when he arrived in DC and it didn't work. The theory was the same then: get more scoring off the bench. Different players, I know, but I suspect we would have the same results.

Finally, I think DeShawn gets way less respect than he deserves from most folks who post on these comments. DeShawn played great in the backcourt with Gil three years ago. Shooting 50 percent late into the season from the guard spot is ridiculous. I'd take that any day. Two years ago, D Steve had some huge games too. Most notably the 33 he dropped on NO, including the game winner.

Posted by: jonathan30033 | September 2, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

"As for "Rebounds counting the same no matter how you get them". Uh...no, if there's nobody around you and you just get the board because you're the 4 under the basket, anyone on this blog can get those, it's those rebounds that we need in traffic that someone else is trying to get that we want a la Michael Ruffin. If someone else is trying to get the rebound, you can best believe Jamison won't beat them for it. Thats what true rebounders do, fight for the ball, AJ has no fight in him. He just scores.Posted by: stingem1"

LOL why do I get the feeling you haven't spent a lot of time beneath an NBA backboard? Watch closely next game -- you don't see a lot of guys hanging around waiting for rebounds nobody else wants.

Jamison doesn't just score. He rebounds too. He does it very effectively. It's a big part of why teams like Cleveland try to trade for him instead of some one-dimensional scorer.

What 'true rebounders' do is get a lot of rebounds. Jamison gets a lot of rebounds. Therefore, he's a true rebounder. He's not Dennis Rodman. But he's a very good rebounder.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

How has Nick Young improved?
Last season his games played,mpg,fg%,FT%,rebs,asst,and ppg went up. his only stat that was lower than his rookie season was turnovers and 3pt%. aside from that nothing imporved, that's why Flip is molding him after Rip Hamilton who despite his off the ball activity, isn't particularly creative with the ball.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Jamison is fine as a starter, but he must play reduced minutes. Blatche, NY, McGee are the victims of lousy coaching and defensive schemes. Butler, Jamison and Arenas were already established stars/vets, so they didn't need the coaching as much. During the 19 win season, there was really no development of the young talent. McGuire is an overachiever because he is less talented than the aforementioned players. He did the hustle/dirty work, ut I'm not sure it is what's needed as a starter. You don't have to coach hustle. Let's judge them after this season, after some seasoning from a veteran, successful coach who has proven he can win 50 games a season. Heck, even Haywood didn't have really good years until Ayres came as an assistant and immeditaely sought him out in the off season to patch the damage from Jordan. As a coach you must recognize the type of player you possess and then develop strategies to motivate him. One approach does not work on every player. Remember the young guys are still under 24 years of age. They will not become superstars, but they can become more than competent. Be patient!

Posted by: garrybrown | September 2, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

If someone else is trying to get the rebound, you can best believe Jamison won't beat them for it. Thats what true rebounders do, fight for the ball, AJ has no fight in him. He just scores.Posted by: stingem1"

There are no give away rebounds. AJ gets his because he plays position before the ball is shot. He does not have to muscle the ball from Shaq & Dwight he just gets to the ball. You can make getting the ball difficult or you can play with your head. You gotta watch him position himself before the ball comes off the rim. Rebounding 101.

And he's good for 20 pts./game.
So he gives up a few on the Offensive end. Who doesn't???

Posted by: VBFan | September 2, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

They haven't started the season yet.


Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 1:53 PM
do you really see championship written on this team?ORL,CLE,BOS,LAL,SA,DEN are all real championship contenders. if the wiz don't get it done this year, then what ?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Samson151,

I watch every single Wizards game and I see the type of rebounds Jamison gets, they are mostly "uncontested" rebounds. Not to say that he doesn't position himself for rebounds but he doesn't beat anybody for rebounds. If someone else is going for the ball, most likely Jamison will end up on the floor. Physical contact is not something he welcomes, true rebounders don't mind the contact. It's probably fair to say that you haven't been under an NBA backboard either but it doesn't stop you from voicing your opinion.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Like I said before, there is no real contender. Only 1 team can win it. At least 5 of those teams will not win the championship. Are those 5 any further along than the wizards if they don't win it? Then what for them?

What is Cleveland and Shaq don't win it? Then what? What if Boston and Rasheed don't win it? Then what? What if Orlando and Vince don't win it? Then what?

You aint saying anything really.

Posted by: G-Man11 | September 2, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

do you really see championship written on this team?ORL,CLE,BOS,LAL,SA,DEN are all real championship contenders. if the wiz don't get it done this year, then what ?

The only team with championship written on them is the Lakers. Cleveland has NEVER won one, Orlando either, Denver? No. You don't know WHO is a contender because everyone of those teams is different from last season. You don't know who is going to get hurt or anything. So until the season starts I don't know what the Wizards are capable of. Neither do you.

And abotu Nick Young...come one man. His stats are basically the same! He took 300 more shots on the season and upped his scoring average by 3 points. Played the same crap defense. WHAT HAS HE IMPROVED ON?!?! Flip can model him after Rip all he wants but he isn't a killer mid-range shooter like Rip and all of a sudden it's not going to work. You have to completely re-program him. And he's already said he's going to do what he wants.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I watch every single Wizards game and I see the type of rebounds Jamison gets, they are mostly "uncontested" rebounds. Not to say that he doesn't position himself for rebounds but he doesn't beat anybody for rebounds. If someone else is going for the ball, most likely Jamison will end up on the floor. Physical contact is not something he welcomes, true rebounders don't mind the contact. It's probably fair to say that you haven't been under an NBA backboard either but it doesn't stop you from voicing your opinion.

Well Jamison manages to pull down damn near 10 per game every season. Like Michael Lee said almost NOBODY else does it.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"Not to say that he doesn't position himself for rebounds but he doesn't beat anybody for rebounds. "

Unless the other 9 players are standing around checking for dirt under their nails when the ball goes up, allowing Jamison to go after the ball with no competition if he gets the rebound and no one else does then, by definition, he's beating someone to it. Whether he beats them with skill, speed, strength, guile, or luck is utterly irrelevant. This isn't Olympic figure skating; there are no points handed out for technique.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Makes you wonder are these people really watching the wizards. Jamison does battle for rebounds. Teams don't just let him get 10 a game,or whatever he averages, no matter who the center is beside him. I wished opposing teams "let" Blatche do that. Yes, he gives up some points, but he outscores his opposite pf 2/3 of the time at least. In other words, factoring scoring and rebounds, most of the time Jamison has the advantage. Talk about his defense all you want, but his man is being outplayed and must not be able to play defense either if an undersized softie is dropping 20 and 10 nightly cause most of the time they aren't dropping the same on him.

Posted by: G-Man11 | September 2, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I have an idea! Let's not try to get rebounds at all! Everybody stand away from basket and we'll just MAGICALLY get rebounds! The other team will LET you have them!

You people are so stupid sometimes. Jamison gets boards. Period.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Well SDMDTSU and Samson151,

My point is when we need that clutch rebound, its not going to come from Jamison if he has to fight for it. His rebounds are like his points, they come in the flow of the game. He's not going to hit too many clutch shots, nor will he get that crucial rebound that you need at that crucial time, but he will get his 20 and 10. Everything he does is in the flow of the game, not very often does he have a big play at a crucial time in a game, rebounding or scoring.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

My point is when we need that clutch rebound, its not going to come from Jamison if he has to fight for it. His rebounds are like his points, they come in the flow of the game. He's not going to hit too many clutch shots, nor will he get that crucial rebound that you need at that crucial time, but he will get his 20 and 10. Everything he does is in the flow of the game, not very often does he have a big play at a crucial time in a game, rebounding or scoring.

Okay. Thank you for posting.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I can't think of a better fit with Arenas than Jamison. Most bigs hate playing with PGs as ball dominant as Gil, which is probably why we haven't heard of any wanting to come to DC and play with him.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 2, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

If close to 20/10 will just flow to a player naturally without him having to beat anybody else for rebounds, or score big buckets when contested...why are so few guys near the 20/10 mark?

And how come those who are always have names like: Shaq, Tim Duncan, Amare, and other acknowledged league superstars?

You gotta give AJ his due, his numbers are right there with the very best in the league. That's all there is to it.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

This team will never go anywhere in the playoffs with the softest power forward in the league. The game is more than the 20 and 10, its physical play, defense, loose balls, toughness. You can't win with a guy that's afraid to be touched or afraid to touch anybody else.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I can't think of a better fit with Arenas than Jamison. Most bigs hate playing with PGs as ball dominant as Gil, which is probably why we haven't heard of any wanting to come to DC and play with him.

Gee..I sure didn't hear anything about Amare Stoudemire wanting to come here this summer....

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Yep Orlando had the toughest PF's in the league last season. Rashard Lewis and Turkoglu are bangers.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

'This team will never go anywhere in the playoffs with the softest power forward in the league. The game is more than the 20 and 10, its physical play, defense, loose balls, toughness.'

Who plays PF for Orlando? And how tough and physical is he camped out behind the arc 40 minutes per night?

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

And abotu Nick Young...come one man. His stats are basically the same! He took 300 more shots on the season and upped his scoring average by 3 points. Played the same crap defense. WHAT HAS HE IMPROVED ON?!?! Flip can model him after Rip all he wants but he isn't a killer mid-range shooter like Rip and all of a sudden it's not going to work. You have to completely re-program him. And he's already said he's going to do what he wants.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 2:48
300 shots over 82 gms is roughly 3 more shots per game. he scored 3 more pts per game so out og those 3 shots he hits one(2pts) misses one (0 pts) and goes to the line (up 70 attempts from the previous yr) and hits 1 (1pt). there goes your 300 more shots per game that yielded 330 more points than the previous yr.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"He's not going to hit too many clutch shots, nor will he get that crucial rebound that you need at that crucial time, but he will get his 20 and 10."

Well, look at it this way: Jamison has to leave something for the other players to do, right? Otherwise he'd be selfish.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Rashard Lewis but they have a Monstrous Beast in the middle named Dwight Howard who takes up the slack, we don't have that, we have another soft player from North Carolina named Brendan Haywood.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Ok people you have hit on two player as the reason why the Wiz are in the situation they are in... AJ I love the guy. He is a warrior! He as much as we want him to be one is not a 4 he is a slow 3. He has severe at times mobility issues. I watched him limp through several games last year and I thought this guy would be top 5 if he had good wheels. Coming off the bench with this collection of players is not an option. Because of his high efficiency his game is best suited for coming off the bench. DS is not a starting level 2 guard in this league. He is not consistent. He give effort but it does not matter I can climb a wall but if the ladder is against the wrong wall I'm wasting time.

Posted by: jtrob_1 | September 2, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Gee..I sure didn't hear anything about Amare Stoudemire wanting to come here this summer....

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:24 PM

seriously?

Posted by: djnnnou | September 2, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

300 shots over 82 gms is roughly 3 more shots per game. he scored 3 more pts per game so out og those 3 shots he hits one(2pts) misses one (0 pts) and goes to the line (up 70 attempts from the previous yr) and hits 1 (1pt). there goes your 300 more shots per game that yielded 330 more points than the previous yr.

You're missing the point. He got more minutes and more of a green light. His rebounds, steals, blocks, assists, EVERYTHING virutally stayed the same. So what did he improve? With bad defense and decision making. Yeah he went to the line 70 more times...IN 700 MORE MINUTES OF FLOOR TIME.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"Everything he does is in the flow of the game. . . "

Yeah, coaches hate it when guys are productive in the flow of the game.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Like I said before, there is no real contender. Only 1 team can win it. At least 5 of those teams will not win the championship. Are those 5 any further along than the wizards if they don't win it? Then what for them?

What is Cleveland and Shaq don't win it? Then what? What if Boston and Rasheed don't win it? Then what? What if Orlando and Vince don't win it? Then what?

You aint saying anything really.

Posted by: G-Man11 | September 2, 2009 2:44 PM
look i don't care that you disagree cuz. i want the wiz to win a championship. i want to go to the parade down penn ave or wherever. if none of those teams win it fine, who cares? but i'll tell u this a lot of poeple who know more about basketball than the both of us would say that 1 or 2 of those teams has a legit shot at the 'chip and all of them are better off than the wiz.

all those teams can do what they want and not win it all. it doesn't matter to me. but my home team not fielding a contender sux for me. as mike lee said the wiz are playing for respect this year. i'm not interested in these guys need to feel respected. this town wants a winner. why does everyone "rock the red" for the caps? the caps have built their team up and no they are a powerhouse. we once were a powerhouse (top 4 eastern conf. 3 all stars etc) but we've fallen back. if this team can't get it done then we need to blow it up.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Gee..I sure didn't hear anything about Amare Stoudemire wanting to come here this summer....

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:24 PM

seriously?

Yes seriously. Google is open 24/7/365.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

the caps have built their team up and no they are a powerhouse. we once were a powerhouse (top 4 eastern conf. 3 all stars etc) but we've fallen back. if this team can't get it done then we need to blow it up.


And when is they're championship parade? How far have they gone? 2nd round of the playoffs? Sounds familliar doesn't it?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, look at it this way: Jamison has to leave something for the other players to do, right? Otherwise he'd be selfish.

Now that was funny.

Posted by: stingem1 | September 2, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

You're missing the point. He got more minutes and more of a green light. His rebounds, steals, blocks, assists, EVERYTHING virutally stayed the same. So what did he improve? With bad defense and decision making. Yeah he went to the line 70 more times...IN 700 MORE MINUTES OF FLOOR TIME.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:36 PM

when was nick youg given the green light? get serious. 34 gms last yr NY played 20 or less mins four of those games were less than 10 mins of PT. how many guys with the green light get their mins jerked around like that.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Gee..I sure didn't hear anything about Amare Stoudemire wanting to come here this summer....

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:24 PM

seriously?

Yes seriously. Google is open 24/7/365.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 3:38 PM

Seriously, as in are you seriously stupid enough to believe that Amare wanted to come to DC.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 2, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Amare would be in DC if ernie was willing to part with Caron.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to get defensive rebounds when you don't play defense. If you are just standing there watching the game instead of playing your man than you have an advantage to get the rebound.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | September 2, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I cant waitt to play in the nba this season. Little did I know if you just stand around watching the game you get defensive rebounds, and you can average 20/10 by just 'flowing' up and down the court not battling for anything or making big shots.

What the hell am I wasting my time here for

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to get defensive rebounds when you don't play defense. If you are just standing there watching the game instead of playing your man than you have an advantage to get the rebound.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | September 2, 2009 3:52 PM

I don't think that's how it works.
I watched plenty of games last year and never got one rebound.

Posted by: VBFan | September 2, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Anybody thinking the coaches, making the money they do, and able to be fired any time, play the soft players in crunch time?

Criticism of Jamison comes from fantasy league players. But even if the criticism come from someone watching many games, the bottom line is you cannot have all stars and all NBA players at every position. We happen to have an allstar at PF. 'Nuff said right there.

Every player has some flaw. it is up to the coaches and GM to build the team for teamwork, synergy, and positive interaction. Again, Jamison excels in those categories. Therefore, we have the best PF we could reasonably hope for, although perhaps not the "perfect" PF coming out of the robot lab. Antawn, here's a drink to you - cheers!

Posted by: ragtop4spd | September 2, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I hear the Magic are going to cut Dwight Howard because he's a crappy shooter. They say he's two-dimensional. Time for Superman to get out the way and let one of the young guys have a shot.

Hope Abe isn't too cheap to sign the guy, huh?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Starting Blatche does nothing to address the "softness" at PF because Blatche is as soft as chocolate mousse at a 4-star french restaurant. The only thing Blatche does better than Jamison is be taller. But since he plays like a 6' 3" guard, that's not really an asset.

IT WOULD BE interesting if some of the posters who keep critizing Blatche about being soft and no D actually watched a game or paid attention. Last year he was the only Wiz who consistently played D other than Dominic. Soft? Ask Cleveland who popped boy wonder in the playoffs? Who actually takes a charge on this team other than Blatche and Domnic? No one. You people read a sports page and a blog and think you know what you are talking about. Ha - watch a game sometimes and pretend you know what you are doing.

GAR

Posted by: h20law2000 | September 2, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

You all are silly...We paid Jamison a crazy amount of $$$ because if we hadn't, someone else would have and he is one of the best and most consistent players in the league. the talk on ESPN and elsewhere last year was that jamison deserved to be an allstar, it was just that the Wiz were so bad, his play was severely discounted.

There are not more than 4 teams in the NBA that wouldn't want Jamison on their team this year and he would start on 25 teams in the NBA.

DS? We'll see. The guy played a good role before and let's see how the back holds up and if he fits in. I think he goes to 2nd string, but that's just conjecture.

Posted by: Blurred | September 2, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

IT WOULD BE interesting if some of the posters who keep critizing Blatche about being soft and no D actually watched a game or paid attention.

Lots of hand fouls and an occasional hack doesn't make someone a defensive presence.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 2, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

i would think all this luv comes from the fantasy leaguers. yall are the ones hollerin 20 and 10!20 and 10! most jamison detractors are talking about the way AJ plays the game and "endears" himself to his teamates. How often does AJ pass out of a double team to an open teamate vs. him going up for an awkward layup attempt against the dub team to get fouled? how often does he throw the youngsters under the bus while standing behind his 20/10 shield. SD u wanna talk "green light" AJ is a f'in black hole. he gets his numbers at the expense of the team.

pound ur chest about 20/10 all u want in a 19 win season. tell me again about how he avg'd 32/10 against cleve when they swept us. this guy is an albatros. mark my words there will be no nba 'chip in dc as long as AJ is in a Wiz uni.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

doing the same thing expecting different results is lunacy. if the wiz don't win, eventually moves will be made. we'll just have to see how things play out. go wiz champs in 2010

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

fair enough that the 20/10 thing is a fantasy league issue as well. I'll buy that argument. But nobody can phone in a 20/10. It's hard work and takes coordination as well as extreme effort. I think our difference in opinion there is I don't see ball hogging in general from 'Tawn, but to the minor amount I see it occasionally, I want the coordinated players to be the hogs if there are some. There have been few players ever (that's right, I'm saying ever) who have such a fast and coordinated put back as 'Tawn. So I'm willing to take some bad with that particular talent. When he's retired, that put back is something we ain't seeing from anyone else.

I'm not going to argue your point on ball hogging; I'm honestly thinking now that this is a matter of the opinion of whose observing, so maybe you see it clearly, I'm not seeing it so much. When Gil used to come down the court and shoot his 3 before the offense even got set, I would judge that to often be a bad decision, but I don't see that in Jamison's shots. I'll take a closer look this season to see what I can observe (not being sarcastic).

Posted by: ragtop4spd | September 2, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Antawn a ball hog? I bet that out of the 40 minutes he's in the game, Antawn has the ball in his hands for a total of less than a single minute. One of Antawn's best attributes is his decisiveness. He decides what he wants to do and he makes his move quickly. Admittedly, he often decides to shoot, but at least he doesn't allow the defense to reset by holding the ball or going through a ton of up fakes (like Blatche).

Posted by: yop32 | September 2, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm in agreement with Mike, Jamison is unappreciated and a great player. I'm glad he's a wizard.

Posted by: washwiz | September 2, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

MeTawn as he is often referred to by a particular no-nothing basketball "savant" on this blog is the glue that holds this squad together he is a pro's pro and that's why i have the utmost respect for him and always will, he is undervalued in this league and when he retires he will be sorely missed.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 2, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to get defensive rebounds when you don't play defense. If you are just standing there watching the game instead of playing your man than you have an advantage to get the rebound.

Well if that's the case the Wizards should lead the league in rebounding right?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Dag Mike..That is just cold bringing it to all the Jamison haters. You the man!

Posted by: ptp23 | September 2, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Mike. You the Man! And all of us that are in Jamison's corner crushed the Haters' on this one.

Good expla' GM on the sixth man, but it dose not fit Jamison on this squad.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Very impressive answers Mike. Like you, it boggles me to no end when why some fans suggest sending Jamison to the bench when clearly he is our # 2 weapon. I would actually put him ahead of Butler in terms of ranking our 3-headed monster :)

Posted by: Bullzards80 | September 2, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I see the rotation going with a starting 5 of Haywood, Jamison, Butler, Miller, Arenas, with Blatche and Foye off the bench at C/PF and PF/SG respectively, with Jamison sliding to SF to accomidate Blatche at the 4 as needed. Young and McGee look to be the next subs when a 8-9 man rotation is needed or fouls and injury predicate.

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 3, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/zach_randolph/

here is a guy who put up 20/10 so that goes to show you numbers don't always tell you everything!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | September 3, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

i agree with the guys who say bring him in as 6th man. for all intents & purposes, havlicek WAS a starter as 6th man. the point for me is that antawn would give solid scoring, rebounding AND leadership to the subs. true, he'll do that as a starter, too. but unless something changes drastically over the summer, the team NEEDS 2nd unit leadership and scoring more than it needs to maintain a 'big 3,' in my opinion. force if blatche isn't 'right' with the first team, we will still get solid scoring arenas, butler and foye (or whomever). twan should be a mismatch with most 2nd string 4's. i just think we'd be a more dangerous team.

Posted by: dcjazzman | September 3, 2009 2:27 AM | Report abuse

This team is built to score points in waves and bunches. To dare other teams to try and keep up.

The goal is to be top 2-3 in pts scored, and at least middling on D. That's the team we have.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2009 1:26 PM
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Exactly!
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It's easy to get defensive rebounds when you don't play defense. If you are just standing there watching the game instead of playing your man than you have an advantage to get the rebound.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | September 2, 2009 3:52 PM
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One of the first posts I've agreed with you on. The guy criticizing Jamison's rebounding defended his position poorly. I'm not a Jamison hater, but when your guy blows by you and the weakside defender causes him to miss. And, you follow the play. Guess what? You got a nice juicy rebound. That is where he gets quite a few of his rebounds. Or he sags so far off his man bc he is worried about the aforementioned blow by that he is practically already in the lane for the rebound when his man misses. His version of the blockout.

That being said, in a perfect world we would have him coming off the bench. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't see a team ever winning the Championship with AJ as their starting PF. Is he underrated or overrated? That's a close one. I can see both sides of that argument, but what I don't see is someone who is better to start on this team at the moment. Kal's point about Blatche was spot on. If there was one thing he did better than Jamison, it would be an option. But, Blatche does nothing better than Jamison at this point in his career. Including playing defense.

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 3, 2009 3:28 AM | Report abuse

I should add that Jamison is a pretty crafty offensive rebounder. It's his defensive rebounding that is overrated IMO.

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 3, 2009 3:34 AM | Report abuse

but i'll tell u this a lot of poeple who know more about basketball than the both of us would say that 1 or 2 of those teams has a legit shot at the 'chip and all of them are better off than the wiz.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 2, 2009 3:38 PM

how do you know what I know? You don't. You can speak for yourself, but don't judge me with anybody else. As for those so-called experts you mention, I hardly find them credible. They overemphasize last years results. Yes Boston, Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio, and the Lakers are good. I think the Lakers are the favorites. But again, Washington was not a 19 win team last year if they were healthy. Even you know that. The last time they were healthy, they led the east after taking Cleveland 6 games. Yes, other teams have improved since then. But, so have the wizards. I remember Washington without Arenas taking it to the Boston team that won the championship that year. I remember running Orlando off the court when washington was healthy and Haywood was garbage. I remember last year giving Cleveland all they could handle without an improved Haywood and Arenas and beating them with them. The point is, don't overestimate those other teams just because they added some old fossils(Shaq and Rasheed), and underestimate the wizards, your own team. You seem to drink the kool-aid of those gutless forecasters who NEVER go out on a limb. Shaq and Garnett would get the benefit of the doubt from them even if they were 60 years old.

Posted by: G-Man11 | September 3, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

rphil: "when your guy blows by you and the weakside defender causes him to miss. And, you follow the play. Guess what? You got a nice juicy rebound."

I see a couple problems with this argument. First, the Wiz' weakside defense isn't particularly great. When an opponent blows past a defender, it usually results in a basket. Second, once somebody gets inside, his own teammates close for a follow rebound, should one occur. That leaves Jamison substantially out of position.

When he fails to get the rebound, it's usually because somebody else beats him to it. Maybe they're taller, younger, quicker, stronger, or can still jump.

To me, the people who aren't working hard are the posters who continually advance such arguments.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 3, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

"here is a guy who put up 20/10 so that goes to show you numbers don't always tell you everything!Posted by: bulletsfan78"

Thanks for reminding us why teams keep signing/ trading for this guy (Zach Randolph), in spite of his personality disorder. He can flat-out play.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 3, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

when was nick youg given the green light? get serious. 34 gms last yr NY played 20 or less mins four of those games were less than 10 mins of PT. how many guys with the green light get their mins jerked around like that.

Nick Young was almost ALWAYS the first man off the bench and nobody averaged more minutes over the majority of the season outside of AJ, Caron, Blatche, Dom, and Mike James. Basically the starting lineup. When he got in he did one thing...shoot. Look at the numbers. They're virtually the same.

i would think all this luv comes from the fantasy leaguers. yall are the ones hollerin 20 and 10!20 and 10! most jamison detractors are talking about the way AJ plays the game and "endears" himself to his teamates. How often does AJ pass out of a double team to an open teamate vs. him going up for an awkward layup attempt against the dub team to get fouled? how often does he throw the youngsters under the bus while standing behind his 20/10 shield. SD u wanna talk "green light" AJ is a f'in black hole. he gets his numbers at the expense of the team.

LMAO...are you serious? How often does Nick Young pass period? What was it this summer...81 points and 0 assists? That's a black hole. Did you read this post? Jamison gets his points on very few shots. Fouls are a good thing you know...Threw who under the bus? Nick and Blatche? They need to get serious. Period. Didn't see him throwing Dom under a bus did you? Because he worked his ass off. If you say "throwing someone under the bus" is what Jamison last year. You need to man up too.

pound ur chest about 20/10 all u want in a 19 win season. tell me again about how he avg'd 32/10 against cleve when they swept us. this guy is an albatros. mark my words there will be no nba 'chip in dc as long as AJ is in a Wiz uni.

What does him averaging 32 and 10 when we got swept have to do with ANYTHING? Gil AND Caron were out...and DeShawn shot like 18% for the series. I don't understand the point of this.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 3, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a Jamison hater, but when your guy blows by you and the weakside defender causes him to miss. And, you follow the play. Guess what? You got a nice juicy rebound. That is where he gets quite a few of his rebounds. Or he sags so far off his man bc he is worried about the aforementioned blow by that he is practically already in the lane for the rebound when his man misses. His version of the blockout.

Sooo...the weakside defenders man just let's Jamison have the rebounds too? And he's sagging off and letting PF's shoot jumpers? I thought he got killed in the paint! Wait...there's NOBODY else in the lane but Jamison? Why are all these teams in the league letting Jamison have so much? Is there a let AJ have rebounds conspiracy?

"here is a guy who put up 20/10 so that goes to show you numbers don't always tell you everything!Posted by: bulletsfan78"

Yeah look at his games played, turnovers, let alone the legal issues, how he's documented as a bad teammate. Be serious.


And I agree with G-Man...people forget on Christmas the Wizards even without Haywood. Handled Cleveland on national TV but blew it in the last minute...let alone we beat them later in the season. It happens. Everything on paper doesn't mean anything until you lace them up and that goes for the Lakers or anyone else.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 3, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

There's a much more knowledgeable (and grown-up) discussion re Jamison's rebounding over at http://www.bulletsforever.com/2009/9/2/1012288/more-jamison , for those of you who could do without the constant food fights on this board.

Posted by: Prazak | September 3, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"There's a much more knowledgeable (and grown-up) discussion re Jamison's rebounding over at http://www.bulletsforever.com/2009/9/2/1012288/more-jamison , for those of you who could do without the constant food fights on this board.Posted by: Prazak"

Thanks for posting that link. It's a pretty simple relationship between Jamison's offensive and defensive rebounding and his reliance on the outside jumper. I don't know about playing him more inside, however. He'd be fine in some matchups, but not against the really tall, strong players. The Wiz depend on Antwan for quite a bit of scoring, and if he can't get the shot off, that's a whole other set of problems.

You sound like you've taken some lumps in the 'food fight'. The other blogs I read (Skins and Nationals) fight less but seem to hold themselves to a lower standard of posting. Here, if you say something dumb, you'll probably get called on it.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 3, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

In terms of actual skill, Jamison is a very good inside/post player. He simply doesn't get to use it much with the Wiz because, playing almost exclusively at PF, he's almost always at a size disadvantage that takes away his post up game. Taking guys ou side and either shooting over them or beating them off the dribble is the best way for him to overcome that.

Now, assuming the validity of the statistical model used in the analysis (which is not something I ever assume about such things) the main reason Jamison would have appeared to be more successful on the offensive boards in Dallas was because he played more SF there than he ever has in D.C., and the guys playing PF and C (Dirk and Employee #8) were both big outside shooters, so Jamison was often working out of the post with with a similarly-sized or smaller player defending him, which opened up both his post-up game and his offensive rebounding. Realistically, there's no way to replicate that arrangement with the personnel on the Wiz.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

If the Wizards break training camp and Jamison and Stevenson are both still big parts of this team then they are in trouble. It is going to be up to the other players to show enough to push them aside. I would think Jamison would not accept a lesser role on an improving young team and would become trade bait. Stevenson's role on the team would be in jeopardy. Hardly any of the better teams in league stand pat from year to year so why should the Wizards with this roster? Some deadwood has been cleared but more work needs to be done.

Posted by: dandyhuffman | September 3, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

HHAHA. To all of you that even think Jamison should come of the bench are morons. Don't get me wrong, Blatche is good too. He can give you 10 one night and 25 the next. But in reality, he'll only give you 10 a season, because of his inconsistency.

There is a reason that JAMISON is captain of this squad, not Arenas. The man led in Points and Rebounds for the entire team last season. Butler lead in assist...and he's a freakin forward for God's sake!! If you put Jamison on the bench, you might as well start DeShawn and just forfeit the entire season...right??

Posted by: hnic07 | September 3, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"Hardly any of the better teams in league stand pat from year to year so why should the Wizards with this roster?"

Gone from last season: Thomas, Songaila, Pecherov, Jordan, Tapscott. New this season: Miller, Foye, Oberto, Saunders.

How is that "standing pat"?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"Hardly any of the better teams in league stand pat from year to year so why should the Wizards with this roster?"

Gone from last season: Thomas, Songaila, Pecherov, Jordan, Tapscott. New this season: Miller, Foye, Oberto, Saunders.

How is that "standing pat"?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2009 3:02 PM
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lol...yeah, don't know what some people are thinking.

As far as Jamison is concerned, there is a weakside defender named BTH who always had Jamison's back and whom Jamison publicly missed last year. Also, Jamison plays major minutes still at PF. So, by default he should have quite a few rebounds. My overall point being let's not make Jamison out to be some rebounding beast. He is adequate.

Otherwise, he is a team leader. Brings it ever night. And, there is simply nobody to displace him in the starting lineup. If Blathce were say a Rodman type, then you could say let's start him and bring in Jamison for offense and leadership off the bench. But, that is simply not the case at this point.

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 3, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Excellent analysis as usual Mike; however, I take specific exception to this understated point you made re. Jamison:

"He's effective on one end of the floor."

That is the crux of the debate about Jamison's effectiveness as a starter or 6th man. He is a MAJOR defensive liability at a key position for this team. On a bad or mediocre team his defensive flaws can be somewhat overlooked. On a team with championship aspirations, Jamison does not make the cut as a starter on that basis alone.

We may not have a proven alternate, but please do not minimize this glaring deficiency in his game.

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | September 5, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

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