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Day 3, Mini-Update

Gilbert Arenas was held out of the Wizards' scrimmages for the second consecutive day. Arenas appeared to be favoring his left leg when he joined his teammates for sprints after practice, but Coach Flip Saunders said that Arenas's left middle finger, not his surgically repaired left knee, forced the team to keep him out of the action. Arenas originally dislocated his finger playing pickup basketball prior to training camp.

"Gil got his finger hit again on yesterday," Saunders said. "It swelled up a little bit, but we taped it up and he went through a lot of stuff. We held him out of the scrimmage, but he did all the drills and everything else."

It might not be a big deal, and his finger might really be messed up. But given his history of knee troubles, any hint of a problem surrounding Arenas is usually a cause for concern. Saunders was adamant that everything was okay. "You saw that he was running. Ran sprints at the end," Saunders said. "He's got no problems at all. If we had a game today, he'd be playing."

I asked Saunders if he was concerned about evaluating who best complements Arenas with him sitting out of the past two days of scrimmages. "No," he said. "We did a controlled type scrimmage and we did up and down. He was playing with those guys. He's had repetitions with those guys on a daily basis."

Arenas wasn't willing to offer an explanation. He hasn't spoken to reporters since his 30-minute Q&A on media day. When approached after practice, Arenas said, "I'm not talking. I'll see you guys media day next year."

I'll be back with more later.

By Michael Lee  |  October 1, 2009; 5:36 PM ET
 
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Comments

HMMMMMMMMMMM-----

Posted by: VBFan | October 1, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't sound good. Knee injuries are no joke. Foye may turn out to be a great pickup.

Posted by: t-train | October 1, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

But given his history of knee troubles, any hint of a problem surrounding Arenas is usually a cause for concern. Saunders was adamant that everything was okay.

Haven't we heard this before...hurry up and get your season tickets or you will miss "Our Time"?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 1, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm! is right.

Posted by: cannontl | October 1, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

It did not make sense that Gil needed to rest his knee after only one day of training camp and it certainly does not make sense that he needs to miss two days of scrimmages in a row.

I don't think the finger is not the problem. According to Flip, he hurt the finger on Day 2. But when he skipped the scrimmage on Day 2, nobody blamed it on his finger. Instead, the team said Gil just needed rest.

Now, after Gil skips the scrimmage on Day 3, Flip says it is because he jammed his finger on Day 2.

I understand why the team does not want to announce that Gil had to rest his knee for two straight scrimmages after only one day of training camp, but that requires some follow-up questions.

Flip said, "He's got no problems at all. If we had a game today, he'd be playing."

Well, the season starts in less than 4 weeks. And at that point, the team will be out of excuses. Either Gil plays or he doesn't. That's the only thing that will matter.

Posted by: ChrisWhitney | October 1, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

bulletsfan78, we get it, go away

Posted by: IrenePollin | October 1, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Randy Foye was a good insurance policy after all. I guess this just shows the difference between "working out" and reacting to what's in front of you without thinking/planning (making sharp cuts, planting and pushing off, etc.). Me thinks Gil has suffered a setback. Stay tuned!

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 1, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

"Arenas appeared to be favoring his left leg when he joined his teammates for sprints after practice,"

OH boy....soon we'll be hearing about the knee needing to be drained again....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 1, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope "sore finger" is not a smoke screen for bum knee pt. 4.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 1, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmmm is right. Let's also throw in the fact that Gil is not talking and it's a recipe for intense speculation. What we can be sure of is that one way or the other, time will tell the tale, even if the team tries to have a gag order in play.

Posted by: low1 | October 1, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Dag. ..I hope it's not the knee. You got to feel bad for the guy. Forget how we feel as fans. Imagine dealing with this in the prime of your career after making it to the NBA and being one of the top 15-20 players in the league. It's got to be tough. He doesn't want to talk I am sure because he doesn't want to keep answering questions about his knee instead of about the team.

Posted by: ptp23 | October 1, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Bad bad bad bad...last time I checked a dislocated finger doesn't make you limp unless you are a circus act.

Hopefully everything is cool, but, if not, he's done. Career over and we are a first round exit at best.

Fingers crossed!

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 1, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Even without Gil, the Wiz will have an impressive line-up, well coached. But I think Gil will be there. Even so, I am concerned, given Michael's post, that Gil may not be 100%. Disquieting.

Posted by: 7snider7 | October 1, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

"Bad bad bad bad...last time I checked a dislocated finger doesn't make you limp unless you are a circus act."
-rphilli721

Any dislocated joint would make me limp, that a cold shower or a pin up of Angela Merkel.

"I don't think the finger is not the problem."
-ChrisWhitney

Whew, I was worried it might be the knee.


"But given his history of knee troubles, any hint of a problem surrounding Arenas is usually a cause for concern."
-bulletsfan 78

"Doesn't sound good. Knee injuries are no joke." -t-train

"Me thinks Gil has suffered a setback. Stay tuned!" -Firuz1

"Let's hope "sore finger" is not a smoke screen for bum knee pt. 4."
-DCMan_88

Hey, maybe he just jammed his finger. Let's not over analyze. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. If not, che sera sera.

Posted by: midlevex | October 1, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

DANGER!,DANGER! Will Robinson!!,meanwhile Eddie Jordan is saying whew glad i got outta there!

Posted by: dargregmag | October 1, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

GET WELL GIL! Your fans are hoping and praying to see you drive through traffic and hit those impossible finishing shots at the rim.

Me, I've got to give Saunders the benefit of the doubt. I can't imagine staring your coaching job with a blunt lie. That can't be a good way to motivate a group of men to follow your leadership. It's a tough spot to live in with so much on the line.

Thanks to Mike for asking the question that was on my mind from earlier today. It seemed like a good and reasonable answer from Coach too. It's actually not a bad strategy to keep Agent Zero in controlled scrimmages while the team personality is forming. Guys will learn where they are expecting to get the ball within the system. It's good.

Waiting on the season...

Posted by: EWE1 | October 1, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Not comparing Saunders to Phil Jackson, but hopefully this coaching move will correspond to the Bulls when Doug Collins was there to basically set the table for Jackson, as far as they way Saunders has come in for Eddie.


As far as the 2 spot... I gotta go with Miller, and I'll tell you why. Nick Young still is too much of a specialist, scoring. He is ideal to come in the game and focus on that role, which is his strength. Nick is very up and down depending on his confidence. When he has success he can really roll. I like the idea of him coming in, focusing on his strength, going against 2nd team guys and hitting some shots and getting his confidence going.

Foye is ideal in the Antonio Daniels role, or Dixon. He can come in at either G spot depending on need, provide scoring and change of pace.

Stevenson is suited for the Bruce Bowen role of defender off the bench when an opponent is getting hot.

Miller out of the bunch is the most all-around player. He gives us size in the starting lineup to offset our undersized forwards. His rebounded is needed, it is a weakness of our team. His 3 point shooting will punish teams that focus on the big 3. His ability to post us smaller guards is another weapon. His passing is another strength. And his experience, more of a veteran and reliable consistant game.

I envision a backcourt Arenas and Miller. Foye off the bench either for Gil or with him. Miller can slide to SF when Foye comes in. So essentially Foye can replace Arenas, Miller, or Butler (with Miller to the 3).

Young is an option to bring some offense when we want more size than Foye at SG. Or if we want to bring in both Foye and Young.. to sub for Arenas/Miller, or sub for Arenas/Butler (with Miller to SF). For example when we want offense we can bring in Foye and Young and slide Miller to SF with Antawn at PF, Blatche at C... now that's an offensive unit.

Stevenson is nice to bring some D off the bench as an option to Young. In the same token McGuire is a nice option for D at SF behind Caron, opposed to using Miller or Jamison there.

I see the big with the same basic rotation. Jamison like Miller has the all-around game. Blatche (like Foye) 1st off the bench, at either PF or C, change of pace, offense, athleticism. (When Blatche comes in Jamison can slide to SF, as Miller can do when Foye comes in). I see McGee (like Young) the next option, more size at C than Blatche when needed, or can go with Blatche. Oberto (like Stevenson) can come in with defense, physicality, and more of a veteran game.

Posted by: Darnell1 | October 1, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey Mike, any chance Davis fills that last roster spot?

Posted by: Darnell1 | October 1, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

bulletsfan78, we get it, go away

Posted by: IrenePollin | October 1, 2009 7:11 PM

Who are we, you and Abe?

Not all of the poor suckers who bought season tickets when the organization lied about Gil's injury before get it. Since Abe is such a saint you would think he would have offered a refund to them. You know Abe has an insurance policy to recoup his money!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 1, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Logically, it does not make sense that it is the knee.

If you factor all that was reported about him during he summer, it does not make sense that he would have two practices in training camp and now he has to rest because of the knee.

When you play summer basketball, there is balling going on and you can play several hours at a time if your Team is good.

It would be highly unlikely that he could hold up during the summer without any bad reports about the knee.

If indeed Gilbert was actively playing during the summer and there were no reports of him favoring the knee and the knee is giving him problems after only two practices now, then there was some snow job going on.

I don't buy it. It has to be something else.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 1, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I hope this is all nothing, but it scares me. This is JUST LIKE LAST YEAR.

The Wizards played the company line, said he was totally fine, Jordan said the same thing.

They get everyone to keep on buying season tickets to lock them in, then "poof" they annouce that he needs ANOTHER surgery.

Is it just me, or do the Wizards need a better medical staff?

Maybe we should be talking with the trainers from Phoenix. Look at what they did for Grant Hill, Shaq.

We cant keep anyone on the court!!!

Posted by: m1ke3i6 | October 1, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

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