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Jamison to Miss Remainder of Preseason

Antawn Jamison will miss at least the rest of preseason after an MRI on Thursday revealed that he had a subluxation of his right shoulder, which implies a partial dislocation (his shoulder basically popped out). In a release from the team, President Ernie Grunfeld announced that Jamison would be evaluated again next week after the inflammation in his shoulder subsides.

Jamison was injured late in the first quarter of the Washington Wizards' 109-104 preseason win over the Cleveland Cavaliers. His arm fell limp after he attempted to foul Cleveland reserve center Zydrunas Ilgauskas with 4 minutes, 33 seconds remaining in the period. Jamison left the arena with his arm in a protective sling, but he immediately expressed optimism about possibly returning by next Tuesday.

"I'm always a quick healer," said Jamison, who has had scares in the preseason before. He sprained his right knee in the preseason opener against the Dallas Mavericks last season and returned in a few weeks.

He will be unavailable for the Wizards' games in Atlanta (Oct. 19), Philadelphia (Oct. 20) and Chicago (Oct. 23). His status for the season opener remains in doubt. When asked if he thought the injury would require surgery, a league source said, "No."

Jamison, a two-time all-star, led the Wizards in scoring in each of the past two seasons and is one of the just two players in the NBA to average at least 19.5 points and 7.5 rebounds in each of the past five seasons (former league's most valuable player Dirk Nowitzki is the other). Last season, he averaged 22.2 points, which was his highest scoring average since joining the Wizards in the summer of 2004, and finished fourth in the league in minutes played with 3,096.

He was averaging 18.8 points and 8.5 rebounds through the first four preseason games but had just two points at the time of his injury on Wednesday. "After it happened, it got numb and I lost the sensation in my fingers," Jamison said after the game. "I won't say it popped out, but it did some moving. I didn't hear anything pop. I just knew when it happened it was something serious."

The Wizards are coming off an injury-riddled 19-63 campaign in which they spent most of the season without three-time all-star Gilbert Arenas and center Brendan Haywood. Those players have returned in decent health, although Haywood recently went down with a mild ankle sprain. But losing Jamison for a significant amount of time would be a blow to a franchise that has battled serious injuries the past few seasons. It is hoping to becoming a major contender in the Eastern Conference this season with the addition of new coach Flip Saunders and an offseason trade for veterans Mike Miller and Randy Foye.

The 33-year-old Jamison has been one of the most durable players throughout his career as he missed more than 14 games in a season only one time in his first 11 seasons. He has played at least 79 games seven times and suited up for 81 games last season, when only one player -- Nick Young -- played every game.

By Michael Lee  |  October 15, 2009; 5:55 PM ET
 
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First.
"losing Jamison is a major blow to a franchise that has battled serious injuries the past few seasons. It was hoping to becoming a major contender in the Eastern Conference this season"

Why is Michael acting like he's out for the season? Does he know something we dont?

Posted by: mistaheffa | October 15, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Yeah i don't like the tone of Mike Lee's article, i'm hope he's out for a short period maybe first two weeks of the season,Jamison despite what some people say on this blog(dcman88!) is a pro's pro an excellent competitor night in and night out and he and Caron make an excellent tandem at forward the position for this franchise!

Posted by: dargregmag | October 15, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Man. The tone of this article seems so serious, but it's also our fears that as fans of this team we have seen so much of this before that we actually EXPECT the worst. It just seems like too much to ask for us to see what a healthy Wizards team could be capable of.

I fully expect to read in the next few days that AJ will miss all of November and that somewhere in early December he'll come back but he'll be like C-Webb that one year, never really healthy and eventually he'll have season ending surgery somwhere before Xmas.

I hope like HELL I'm wrong, but tell me I'm not the only one THINKING that way.

Posted by: truesense | October 15, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz will need a scorer at the 2 guard if Jamison misses a few games at the start of the regular season (not DS).

This respite will be a good test for Dray. Those of you who dislike Blatche are suffering the results of having false expectations in his first few years.

Even now, he's still developing his game and confidence so he won't be the picture of consistency that Jamison provides. But the team will be good enough to win 5 out of the first 8 games.

Posted by: Izman | October 15, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

yeah, my biggest concern would bee AJ opts against season ending surgery (just like CWebb did) and then plays with a balky shoulder than eventually pops out.

Of course, hopefully no surgery will be necessary and after a few weeks of rehab he is good to go

Posted by: divi3 | October 15, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I called it...CWebb pt. 2.

It's not going to get better as the season goes along.

It's his shooting arm too, so 20-10...maybe not.

It's an opportunity for AB to step up.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 15, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The biggest problem I see is...

Considering Flip has put in a new system it would have really helped the Wizards if the main players had a chance to play together to get some continuity heading into the season.

Now it’s going to take a few weeks until after AJ comes back before we really see what this team can do.

A slow start can mean the difference between being a 4th seed (home court advantage) versus being a 5th or 6th seed which could mean another 1st round exit?

Being cheap (not drafting Blair) has come back to bite the old man in the ...!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 15, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards seem to have the same bad karma as the Redskins.

Every year key players are injured long before the playoffs are decided in December and January.

The one common element is age.

Jamison is 33 years old. Given all the minutes he has played the past 3-4 years his body is likely to start breaking down over time.

Posted by: leopard09 | October 15, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

EG said during the offseason that the key to this team is to stay healthy.

Sorry EG...no excuses.

Healthy or not, Les BouleS better do well, and I mean 4 seed and up, with at least a competitive second round in the playoffs.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 15, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Whats that guy that used to play with Indiana and possibly Seattle that was always popping his shoulder out?

Based on that guy, I don't think this is serious. He was always popping his shoulder but never missed significant time.

Think his name was Davis???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 15, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

While agreeing with the comments above, I also think it's too early to be either real optimistic or real pessimistic -- let's see what the medical opinion is in about a week. Maybe we'll also gain some insight into what the Wizards' medical staff has learned over the last few years.

To me, EG's offseason signings are looking better and better.

Posted by: walterpearce | October 15, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm just as concerned with the Wizards training staff as I am with yet another injury. Yes, the Wizards have been stuck with a whole bunch of injuries, but how many times have we seen the Wizards mis-diagnose an injury (i.e., Jarvis, Caron last year, Stackhouse, the list goes on...). I just hope the staff does due diligence in ensuring that Antawn is ready to play.

Get well soon AJ!

P.S., please get a 2nd opinion after the Wiz medical staff examines you.

Posted by: jcagungun1 | October 15, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

No need to freak out about jamison's injury. He didn't fully dislocate his shoulder--it popped partially out and back in, so he probably didn't tear up his connective tissue, and just needs a few weeks of rest and ice. We've got plenty of other guys who can shoot 3s now, so it it takes a while for his jump shot to come back, that's not going to such a big problem.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 15, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

No need to freak out if it wasn't a big deal, but MeTawn said he temporary lost feeling in his arm which means it had something to do with his nerves.

Also, popping in and popping out....doesn't seem like a big deal, but has anyone ever heard of Bo Jackson who had the same issue, but with his leg?

He's probably going to have to do some PT to strengthen the shoulder, after it stops hurting.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 15, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Jamison will probably be fine, and now is the time for AB to play like he is a legit starter in this league. Give Antawn 1 month of rest and rehab, if blatche is EVER going to be the player we want him to be, at the very least he can handle heavy minutes the first 8-10 game of the season.

Posted by: divi3 | October 15, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

This might warant Miller beginning the season starting at the two guard to give the Wiz additional rebounding and three point shooting in the starting lineup.

Posted by: cannontl | October 15, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

The quick return of Jamison's shoulder to normal physical health and the diagnosis in a week of minimal damage, I think depends greatly on his prior physical conditioning.

The health and conditioning of Jamison may indeed make this injury quite minor.

Of course the MD in my handle stands for Maryland and not medicial doctor, but I cannot see this injury not being completely overcome by the start of the regular season.

Even though folks like to characterize Jamison as No Defense, one thing is for sure however, he is tough as nails.

For all of you that wanted him to be tough, we are really going to see how tough he really is.

Sometimes being a tough player doesn't mean what you do to other players, but instead how tough you are.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 15, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Whats that guy that used to play with Indiana and possibly Seattle that was always popping his shoulder out?

Based on that guy, I don't think this is serious. He was always popping his shoulder but never missed significant time.

Think his name was Davis???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 15, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

indiana didn't count on davis for the production we need from AJ. a bum shoulder could have an effect on the patented out yer butt flip shots or three point shooting proficiency, CWebb nor Davis shot as much from the outside as AJ (CWebb later in his career, but not when he was a youngin and had the injury). This may have a real effect on his game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | October 15, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, didn't you guys ever see Lethal Weapon? He can just slam it into the basketball support any time it pops out! Not a big deal at all...

Posted by: MeviousMan | October 15, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I had the same exact injury. A partial dislocation that popped out a little bit and then back in. I think my hand went numb too. I was playing 1st base and dove to tag the base with my glove and my shoulder hit the ground slid out and right back in.

It took 3 weeks in a sling then a couple months of rehab. It was really sore the day after.

2 years later the same thing happened when I was wrestling a friend (little bit intoxicated at the time) and the same exact recovery time and rehab - about 3 weeks in sling just to be safe (probably only needed a week) and then about 2 months of rubber band/weights for rehab to strengthen/tighten shoulder cell. The problem is that once the shoulder cell has been 'stretched' once, you need to build up the muscle around it to tighten things up to avoid the C Webb syndrome.

About 10 years later (2 years ago), I popped the same shoulder out completely and it wasn't partial and it didn't go back in and I had to have the C Webb surgery. that took much longer and it.... sucked!

But.... we are all different, so who knows. I've seen a UFC fighter dislocate his shoulder all the way out, be in tremendous pain only to have someone pop it back in and within 30 mins the same guy was sparring again and was fine. But the same guy had that happen regularly.

Based on my experience I think Jamison will have to rest the shoulder for 2-weeks and then strengthen the shoulder for a month or two to make sure it doeesn't happen again.

Total bummer because he is such a 20/10 lock. The bright side is AB will get to show what he's got and perhaps the 'defense' of the starting lineup will improve and they will go with a more offensive minded 2 guard as a starter to make up for AJ production(NY or MM?).

Let's all keep our fingers crossed!!!!

Posted by: rock77music | October 15, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

So I wonder who starts now? Will Flip bring in Miller at the 2. Caron at the 3 and Blatche at the 4?

Then subs would be
Foye - 1
Young/stevenson - 2
Mcgee - 4
Oberto -5
Mcguire -3

Ugh-that 2nd team would have little offense.

He might have to start Stevenson now so Miller, Foye and Young can provide offense for the 2nd Unit.

Posted by: ptp23 | October 15, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Too early to know but Jamison's shoulder could be serious. Last year Caron Butler had a potentially serious hip injury that in some cases could have required season ending surgery but he returned to the lineup within a couple of weeks as I recall.

http://www.orthop.washington.edu/shoulderscope

"Subluxation and dislocation both represent problems that occur when the “ball” (or humeral head) doesn’t stay centered correctly in the “socket” (or glenoid). These problems may manifest themselves in a variety of ways; from pain with the normal activities of daily living, to the inability to lift the arm without dislocating the joint, and everything in between.

For many people, a conservative approach with physical therapy and a home-based strengthening program can resolve the pain or symptoms of instability. Those who do not improve with therapy, high-demand athletes, and overhead workers may require surgery to achieve a functional, painless range of motion. When surgery is required, it is of utmost importance that the surgeon look for and address all the potential causes of instability in the joint. If any of the factors contributing to instability is not addressed, the surgery will fail.

Patients undergoing arthroscopic shoulder stabilization require a limited period in a sling (usually 2- to 3-weeks) with some simple range-of-motion exercises at home. They will require fairly intensive outpatient physical therapy for re-establishing pain-free motion and strengthening the shoulder muscles for a few months. Normally, a person can return to most forms of normal activity within 6 weeks, and limited athletics between 10 and 14 weeks. A return to all activities and even contact athletics can usually be accomplished between 14 and 24 weeks, depending on the sport."

Posted by: midlevex | October 15, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

The biggest problem I see is...

Considering Flip has put in a new system it would have really helped the Wizards if the main players had a chance to play together to get some continuity heading into the season.

Now it’s going to take a few weeks until after AJ comes back before we really see what this team can do.

A slow start can mean the difference between being a 4th seed (home court advantage) versus being a 5th or 6th seed which could mean another 1st round exit?

Being cheap (not drafting Blair) has come back to bite the old man in the ...!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 15, 2009 6:49 PM

Doggonit Bulletsfan78, what have you been looking at. Take your dark shades off, uh, uh, your opinions I mean and open your eyes.

If you haven't seen what this Team can do especially from the last game, then I'm gonna hafta' consider you wit' The Forest and The Trees Crowd.

This Team is smooth from the Starters to deep into the bench already. What I see from where I sit is not just preseason enthusiasm but it translates to the regular season as well.

Come on BulletsFan78, from where I sit, ain't nothing cheap about the view.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 15, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

As long as there is damage to tendons or the labrum in his shoulder, Jamison should be able to return to his usual self within a few weeks assuming a normal rehab....that's a big assumption considering how poor the Wizards' medical and training staff has been in diagnosing and rehabbing injuries.

If memory serves me correctly, CB3 was allowed to return after suffering a 'strained hip flexor' within a week during the 2007-2008 season. An MRI later confirmed he had a torn labrum in his hip which required him to miss another month. We can only hope that EG has learned from the prior mistakes made by their Wizards' crack medical staff and has a second opinion done by a specialist on Jamison's shoulder before he begins rehab.

Get well soon AJ, but don't rush back as its going to be a long season.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 15, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Calling Tim Grover..Calling Tim Grover..!

Posted by: ptp23 | October 15, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Rockmusic77,

Great insight and info. Let's hope this is not the start of a popping syndrome for AJ, but just a onetime mishap.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 15, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Rock77music, Sorry.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 15, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"Jeez, didn't you guys ever see Lethal Weapon? He can just slam it into the basketball support any time it pops out! Not a big deal at all...

Posted by: MeviousMan | October 15, 2009 10:27 PM"

Really?

I guess it is possible...since Les BouleS have been a kind of sort of nightmare movie....Groundhog Day.

I didn't know Mel had to shoot J's and grab boards though as part of his cop job.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 15, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 15, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

If he has to miss six weeks, that would still put him back in action Dec 1. or thereabouts.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 15, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

Don't get upset with me since your tarheels players are soft!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 15, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

I read it. A month and a half. No. A lot sooner. His injury can go either way. Look for the shorter version.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 15, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

BulletsFan78,

I was wondering whether you was still out there. You know dem' Tarheels ain't soft. Don't be playin'. Tobacco road is too tough for soft players.

Come on 78', you must be tired.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 16, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

DC_Man88 = CC_Rick88 ??


Anyway, they keep talking about the depth on this roster, lets see how deep we really are.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | October 16, 2009 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Why all the sad faces? Think of all the "good things" and "long-term benefits" that could come from this.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 3:04 AM | Report abuse

So I wonder who starts now? Will Flip bring in Miller at the 2. Caron at the 3 and Blatche at the 4?

I hope so.

Why all the sad faces? Think of all the "good things" and "long-term benefits" that could come from this.

I suspect Kal is being facetious but I am actually thinking that way. I'd like to see how this team performs with a taller more active defensive player in AJ's place. I believe AB could be just as good a rebounder (with the new mindset that I'm hoping he now has). His jumper is decent although he's not as good a scorer as AJ. I honestly beleive that what we lose in rebounding and scoring we make up with defense. As long as Miller is in the starting lineup and provides scoring and rebounding, our net is that we lose very little....(dare I say if anything?)

And I'm a Jamison fan. I know what he brings to the table. I just think that on THIS team, AB may fit in with Gil, Cb and MM even better as a starter than AJ. maybe.

Posted by: original_mark | October 16, 2009 7:21 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4563546

Does this mean that LeBron will now be able to take THREE steps?

This ranks up there with the NFL rules on hitting QB's. It's gotta be the dumbest thing I've seen in a while.

Posted by: original_mark | October 16, 2009 7:43 AM | Report abuse

AJ is going to come back soon but will have a hard time to be himself.I think washington need to push him to have corrective surgery now so that he could be back by midseason in his form.In the mean time DM (better rebounder and defender)is the best option to take more minutes on that position since AB has to share minutes with BH.Scoreing will be compensated by the gards, we will definately be the worest rebounding team with out Jamison.It is very good to look for a jorney man rebounder big man as a 15th man.
Blount is out but does he rebound? I do not expect JM to fill this responsiblity.

Posted by: gtefferra | October 16, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

@original_mark: I guess since the NFL has the Brady Rule, the NBA must have the LeTravel Rule. So yeah LeBron may now legally take 3-4 steps without dribbling. Nice!

Posted by: tundey | October 16, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Lebron James is the best running back in the NBA!

Posted by: millineumman | October 16, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

I've got a contractor, that is a regular customer, that slipped and fell and fully dislocated his shoulder about a month ago. He was back to laying 12" block(70lbs. each) about two weeks ago. Says when it starts to hurt, he rubs tobacco juice on it...

Maybe Jamison just needs to learn to chew while he plays...

O'Mark, I've got to agree. Jamison wasn't going to willfully switch to being a 6th man. And Micheal Lee sure isn't a fan of the idea. But this injury could put him in the role of coming off the bench for awhile once he's back. Longterm that could turn this into a stronger team.

I hope Blatche's momma is on the phone. She seemed to talk some growing up into him this summer. Now he needs to turn this into his job, rebound and defend so well at the 4 that Suanders would have to think long and hard about ever making a change.

Then maybe Micheal will be writing columns about the old Celtics, the genius of Red Aurabach, and the return of the 6th man role. Everybody that wanted to trade for Jamison last year at the deadline wanted Jamison as a 6th man scorer off the bench. Maybe the Wiz need to start to think in that direction.

For Jamison, he needs to take the time to rehab the shoulder correctly now. There has been this ongoing problem here of turning injuries into ongoing problems. Flip's got to break that cycle, the Wiz have to take the long view and get ready for the playoffs.

A fast start's not the goal. A strong finish and an long playoff run are. This team's got to get past trying to hurry guys back from injuries and take the long view.

It's all up to Blatche, play for weeks like he did the other night and the pressure to rush Jamison back won't be so great.

Starting Miller might be a short term solution, he can help with rebounding and he gives the team that important 2nd three baller for Gil to find off the drive. Butler and Miller give the Wiz good size and rebounding ability from the wings to go with their offense.

If Flip goes that way Foye becomes the "Glue Guy" on the second unit. I thought that role would be Miller's, but Foye showed some nice ability to run the second unit down the stretch the other night in Cleveland.

All of the sudden this makes McGuire and important peice of the puzzle. With Jamison down, he could get a little time at the 4. If Miller starts at the 2 and Foye anchors the 2nd unit from the point, that creates more opportunity for Dom at the backup 3. Big unanswered question, Young or DeSawn at the 2?

Wonder if Grunfeld and Larry Bird have become calling plan partners yet?
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | October 16, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Does this mean that LeBron will now be able to take THREE steps?

Posted by: original_mark

You know it does. The only reason they "re-wrote" the rule is to justify/pacify LeBron travelling.

They went from changing calls, like the charge called on LeBron, who of course whined, that would have been his 3rd before halftime, in that playoff game being changed by another ref to a block on Jeffries and HIS 3rd. Eventually Jeffries fouled out, and was unavailable for the final shot where LeBron probably travelled and made the game winner.

So now they went from changing calls to changing the rules, all for LeBron.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 16, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

And Jamison's injury is not as bad as C-Webbs.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 16, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4563546

Does this mean that LeBron will now be able to take THREE steps?

This ranks up there with the NFL rules on hitting QB's. It's gotta be the dumbest thing I've seen in a while.

Posted by: original_mark
------------------------------------------

The "LeBron Rule" no doubt, the crab has the last laugh!

From now on, NBA players will be whistled for traveling in every international competition. Heck we may as well get rid of dribbling altogether, just like the slam dunk competition, everything for the highlight reel.

Posted by: sagaliba | October 16, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Jamsion put up Nowitzki numbers and people want to put him on the bench. Like Blatche is a better defender. He takes dumber shots, turns the ball over, and fouls too much any way. By the time he picked up his 3rd foul in the 2nd quarter he would be back on the bench anyway. They say be careful what you wish for...because Blatche starting might actually show you what he's capable of right now...and it might not be good.

Mike Miller NEEDS to come off the bench. Stevenson should be the starter...if Critt was healthy I wouldnt mind seeing Foye start with Critt handling backup PG duties but that's not gonna happen. A second unit of Foye, Young, Miller, Blatche and Oberto would have virtually no drop off from the first unit...let alone when you mix and match the two units.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 16, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

i know most of you did not stay at a holidy inn last night, so please stop playing doctor. I'm not a doctor either, but I know a fair amount about anatomy and biomechanics. First, rule: you can't compare shoulder injuries to hip injuries. The joints could not be more different. The hip is an incredibly stable joint (ball and socket) that is designed to absorb a lot of pounding. The shoulder has almost no structural support and is held into place almost exclusively by soft tissues. The hip, due to its structure, requires a tremendous amount of force to cause even partial separation, and separation is accompanied by a lot of soft tissue damage.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | October 16, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Wonder if a Kolby Shaq NBA finals matchup had anything to do with this.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 16, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

We're getting ahead of ourselves here with talk of surgery etc etc. There's a strong chance Jamison is fine after several weeks of rest and rehab. The guy is rugged and a proven fast healer, good signs.

Meanhwile, time for AB to put up or shutup.

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse


Jamison is a tough guy. If the injury isn't as serious as expected when they do the MRI next week, I see him coming back at the latest November. However, we need a 80-100% Jamison, when D-Wade had a similar more serve dislocation, he played in the playoff against the Bulls and was not his explosive self. So I want Jamison to have a speedy recovery but not rush back until he is fully healed.

In the meantime, guys like Blatche, McGee and McGuire will need to step up in the preseason to show Flip there worthy of playing time when the season starts.

Posted by: rcnasa | October 16, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Arenas, Miller, Butler, Blatche and Wood

is a better all-round team than:

Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, Jamison, Wood


The second team is much weaker with Jamison out, but substitutions can be one-off rather than wholesale substitutions.

The Wiz can be 5-3 by the time AJ returns.

Posted by: Izman | October 16, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

"Arenas, Miller, Butler, Blatche and Wood

is a better all-round team than:

Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, Jamison, Wood"

Has AB done anything to suggest he should start on any team in the league?

And if Miller is the superior player to Stevenson, why not start him at 2 regardless of Jamison's health?

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

And if Miller is the superior player to Stevenson, why not start him at 2 regardless of Jamison's health?

Because then coming off your bench...your primary scorer at the SF position is Dominic McGuire. Then what's the 2nd unit? Foye, Nick/Deshawn, McGuire, McGee, and Oberto?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 16, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Miller, Stevenson, Young, can all play 2 or 3 right?

Mike James has played well, he can always plays some PG and slide Foye over to 2

Oberto can play 4, which is what he was really doing in SA anyway.

Flip has a ton of options, good to see

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Miller, Stevenson, Young, can all play 2 or 3 right?

Mike James has played well, he can always plays some PG and slide Foye over to 2

Oberto can play 4, which is what he was really doing in SA anyway.

Flip has a ton of options, good to see

Young doesn't need to be playing the 3. And do you really want Mike James playing? Seriously?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 16, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

The rule was always 1 1/2 step. Not one, or two. Most guys were taking two anyway. There was a travel call the other night, on the replay Chenier said, " that's not a travel, he clearly took two steps."

Since the rule was 1 1/2, most guys got two and "The King" got three. Does he get 4 now under the special "crab dribble" ruling.

Some one's got to explain this whole jump stop after you pick up your dribble thing. If it's legal to jump stop & then take 2 steps like Lebron does, how come a rebounder can't grab a rebound, jump back up in the air and then take 2 steps after he comes back down?

How's that different?

The other night, Shaq and Z switched pivot feet so often, I thought I was watching a shell game, or playing three card monte. Which foot's the pivot foot? Watch real close now...
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | October 16, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Mike James is a perfectly capable 2nd/3rd option. As long as he is filling in for 5-12 minutes against the other teams 2nd or 3rd string, he can can play exceptionally well

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

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