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Jamison to miss next three to five weeks

CHICAGO -- The Washington Wizards are forced to start yet another season with a sidelined all-star after an MRI on Thursday revealed that forward Antawn Jamison's right shoulder injury will force him to miss the next three to five weeks.

This is the second consecutive season that the Wizards have started a regular season with at least one major piece missing. Both Gilbert Arenas and Brendan Haywood were out with injuries at the start of last season, and the Wizards went on to match their worst 82-game season in franchise history. The Wizards, though, are optimistic that because Jamison's injury won't require surgery and since his shoulder has made considerable progress in the past week, it would only keep him out the first 10 or so games.

"He's really ahead of where we anticipated, but we're being really conservative right now," Coach Flip Saunders said on Friday, after the Wizards completed shootaround for their preseason finale against the Chicago Bulls. "We're going to be patient with him. We don't want to take any chances. We want to make sure that thing is right and fully healed."

The 33-year-old Jamison has been one of the most durable players throughout his career as he missed more than 14 games in a season only one time in his first 11 seasons. He has played in 79 or more games seven times, including 81 last season, when he averaged 22.2 points and 8.9 rebounds. Jamison called himself "a quick healer" shortly after he suffered a shoulder subluxation while contesting a shot by Cleveland center Zydrunas Ilgauskas. He was unable to have an MRI until the swelling had subsided in his arm.

Jamison has already regained most of the range of motion in his arm. He also started lifted weights on Tuesday in Philadelphia but said that the team's medical and training staff has kept him out of all basketball related activities. "Strength is up," Jamison said this week, "Right now, it's me being patient as far as going along with the plan."

The Wizards' hopes of being more than a playoff flirtation have always hinged on their players being healthy -- primarily their three all-stars, Arenas, Butler and Jamison. Arenas, a three-time all-star, has missed all but 15 regular season games the past two seasons because of troublesome left knee, and Butler missed a combined 58 games the past three seasons with an assortment of injuries.

Since the 2006-07 season, Butler, Jamison and Arenas have combined to make four all-star teams, but the trio has only started together in 61 out of a possible 246 games. Arenas, Butler and Jamison have only started 10 games -- winning four -- since Arenas suffered his debilitating knee injury in April 2007. The next time Jamison, Butler and Arenas are on the floor together remains unknown.

Saunders alternated Andray Blatche and Fabricio Oberto at starting power forward the past two games, and hinted that he might again go with Oberto for tonight's game against the Bulls. Caron Butler said the Wizards would have to make do without Jamison until he returns. "Injuries happen. I'd rather have them happen now than at the end of the season like they normally do," Butler said this week. "Guys have got to step up. That's been the case the past couple of years. Knowing that from the past, we should be accustomed to it and follow suit."

By Michael Lee  |  October 23, 2009; 1:41 PM ET
 
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that is some weak-a$$-stepped-on-shyt

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"we're a pretty deep team — and deep at every position." --Ernie "fired" Grunfeld, 2009

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=7415160

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

(first)

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

so what does this do for Paul Davis chances of making the team? (and yes, i know he wouldn't be a integral piece, but an extra big body can't hurt)

Posted by: 3tripleiii | October 23, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

IT SEEMS thats the only position were not deep in....cos we dont want Oberto playing big minutes in the begining of the year. Hopefully he can come back soon!

Posted by: mrhney03 | October 23, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree with EG, we do have depth and FO and AB are proof of that depth. They should be fine until AJ's return. We have plenty of scoring, defense and rebounding is the key for these guys.

Posted by: zxhoya | October 23, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that upsets me is that the fools had AJ lifting weights before the test came back. I have to beleive that he shouldnt be lifting weights right now. IDK who Flip will start but if he starts Blatche then I bet anything that Blatche would beast on the floor with Gil and people would stop ripping him

Posted by: dlts20 | October 23, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Jamison has already regained most of the range of motion in his arm. He also started lifted weights on Tuesday in Philadelphia but said that the team's medical and training staff has kept him out of all basketball related activities. "Strength is up," Jamison said this week, "Right now, it's me being patient as far as going along with the plan."

Is this the same medical and training staff the Wizards have had over the last couple of years?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 23, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Every year, every year, it never fails. The Wizard are just an injury prone team. If it's not "paper thin" Arenas getting hurt, it' fragile Caron Butler, and if you've every noticed when Caron gets hurt, he's never back to form once he returns. Now it's Jamison ... I am so tired of this team and all the injuries!!

Posted by: StevenDay | October 23, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I think he will probably still go with Oberto tonight just to see what that lineup looks like. I think he will also look at our sked with the bigs we play and you can see that Oberto may be better defensively for a guy like Dirk but I think after hearing this news, he will now switch back to Blatche for the start of the season and maybe even tonight.

You also have to look at Gil here. Do you really want to start the season with Gil basicaly going back to his old role of having to score 30ppg? If you want him to stay as an "aggressive passer" then you would start Blatche. I want to start Blatche for the simple fact that I know without a doubt he would shut all the haterz up. I keep telling everyone that any of our young guys will look 10x better on the floor with Gil. They just will. With him pushing the ball non stop, his passing, and his ability to draw double teams, he will be dominant. With all that being said, maybe its better to have Blatche on the bench for scoring, espicaly if NY is not going to be in the rotation. Foye would be our only real scorer on the bench

Posted by: dlts20 | October 23, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

DC_Man is def LOLing right now. classic les boules

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

on the other flip side maybe it is a good thing to start Oberto and force Gil to be aggressive. I think he will still be smart enough to pass when its there but I wouldnt be against him averaging close to 30 or more at the start of the year, as long as he passes when its there and doesnt shoot us out of games

Posted by: dlts20 | October 23, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

curse of les boulez....

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 23, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

all this talk and speculation has even me bored. Too many people making wild but imprecise predictions like "the wizards might make the playoffs but won't win a championship."

Duh...but that applies to 15 teams in the NBA. You have a pretty good chance of being right on that one.

Or how about "I think we'll be around .500 for the first 1/4 of the season." Again, probably 75% of the NBA teams will be within .100 of that after 20 games.

Or who is gonna be traded to whom and who's contract we should renew next summer. Geez, let's START this season first.

Or folks saying that Jamison shouldn't be lifting weights. Did it mention how heavy the weights were or anything else? Maybe you wouldn't, but you are not a superfreak athlete like EVERY NBA player.

How about making a real prediction like wizards win 37 games or wizards play in conference finals.

Better yet,let's watch some ball!!!

Posted by: Blurred | October 23, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"curse of les boulez....
Posted by: 1of9"

That's what I like to see: a rationalist.

Some guy on the radio said it: the real curse of les boulez is the loony fan contingent.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 23, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

les boulez = large heavy metal balls used by the French for lawn bowling?

Come on, think of something new other than that tired old insult. The guy who coined it isn't even around at Washington Post anymore, and he was never funny to begin with (to me anyway).

Posted by: rickgonz | October 23, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

This means that if all goes well Jamison will be back sometime in December at the latest and if Blatche has any heart at all, he'll take the starting job from Oberto and make it hard for the coaches to just automatically insert Jamison in the lineup when he comes back. It's all up to Blatche now. Either he's ready to consistently contribute or he's still a pretender.

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 23, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Doubt it means much who starts at PF -- the important thing is who Saunders has in there in the fourth quarter.

This next month will be a chance for a young guy to prove himself. Last year, only McGuire consistently took the bait.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 23, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

les boulez = large heavy metal balls used by the French for lawn bowling?
Posted by: rickgonz | October 23, 2009 3:17 PM

lmao. wheres DC Man at. hes gonna LOL so hard when he finds out AJ is out for the season

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Doubt it means much who starts at PF -- the important thing is who Saunders has in there in the fourth quarter.
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Generally, I agree with that statement, but if Blatche outplays Oberto, meshes well with the other starters and gives the team a better chance of winning, I think the fourth quarter minutes will be there for the taking.

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 23, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

This is initially disturbing. But when I think more about it I like the caution they are taking. AJ needs to be ready in the spring and if healthy we know what he can do. This is great (and last) opportunity for AB to make statement that he wants to be and can be a starter in the league. Will he step it up with consistency or squander this opportunity again? This will be interesting to watch.

This also is an opportunity for JaVale and DMac to get Flip's attention and maybe crack the top 10. This also has potential to improve our defense. AJ gave his all but Blatche, McGee change shots. And Dmac and Oberto will be in folks faces.

I still want Gil to be in facilitator mode
until it is bailout time when we need him to be the closer. They need to get used to him in that mode. I hope he doesn't revert back to the ball-hogging days of the pre-injury Agent Zero.

I now expect to see Caron and Miller at the forward spots down the stretch spreading the floor if the matchups can work. we will see how important this depth is right out of the gate now.

BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | October 23, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't automatically assume that with Jamison out, Blatche moves to the head of the class. There are a number of different ways for Flip to go.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 23, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I think the greater impact on the Wiz will be who starts at SG on opening night. My gut instinct is that this almost forces Flip to start Mike Miller because he gives us the 3-point threat that Jamison provides when Arenas penetrates and gives us another strong rebounder. Blatche will likely be the starter, but it will be interesting to see how he plays with stead minutes. The key for him will be defense and rebounding, not scoring.

Long-term, this may save some wear and tear on AJ's legs if he doesn't start playing until late-November or early-Dec. If he misses the first to 10-15 games, that would not be catastrophic. I'm still expecting the Wiz to play .500 ball minus Jamison. The difference between this year and last is our depth.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 23, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone think Jamison would be ok for the Opener? After that injury? My concern is that he actually does need surgery but wants to go the CWebb route until pops out. If he really doesnt need surgery and will be 98% in 5-6 weeks- this is good news.

Posted by: divi3 | October 23, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Why not throw Mcgee in at some 4 w/Brendon while starting Miller? Twin towers dominating the paint while backcourt does the heavy scoring.

Injuries often help a team in the long run, as will be the case here IF jamison is really ok

Posted by: divi3 | October 23, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Curse of Les Boulez is real!!!! Susan O'Mally told me so.

Posted by: SkinsDiesel | October 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone think Jamison would be ok for the Opener?
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No. This is an injury-prone team. We can only hope that Gil holds up this season to make things interesting, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one considering his style of play.

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 23, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

While having Oberto at PF and Haywood at C isn't ideal, it does ensure that we aren't so marashmallowy (can I patent that adjective?) down low. If a team goes small on us, McGuire at the PF might match up better than Reach-in Blatche, certainly you get more intensity. As for scoring, you'd think that Gil, Caron and Miller with Foye and Young coming off the bench could put up enough points.

Posted by: mugsybol | October 23, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Injuries often help a team in the long run, as will be the case here IF jamison is really ok
Posted by: divi3 | October 23, 2009 3:51 PM

ppl post a lot of bullshyt but u might have just posted the most idiotic comment of the 2009-10 season and it opening night isnt until next week.

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I thought MeTawn was supposed to be a fast healer?

Even if he returns in 3-5 weeks, he won't be his "normal" self until after the season, and he'll be even more gun shy playing defense.

And it comes full circle again....a team that bulked up on the backcourt while neglecting the front court....

EG hedged the success of this season on "staying injury free," and now, is that his escape clause for failure now?

No more excuses.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 23, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"ppl post a lot of bullshyt but u might have just posted the most idiotic comment of the 2009-10 season and it opening night isnt until next week."

or you are an idiot and my comment went over your head.

Posted by: divi3 | October 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

...and so it begins....

Posted by: mohammed10 | October 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

or you are an idiot and my comment went over your head.

Posted by: divi3 | October 23, 2009 4:43 PM

no, actually it was an idiotic comment, as usual.

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Wizards knew Jamison was done whenhe got his first MRI just like they acted like Gil would be ready last year because they are hurting for season ticket holders. They didn't want folks to know that it's another here we go again type of season.

Posted by: ptp23 | October 23, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

^ actually, PTP, this is great news, according to divi3. injuries really help teams. who needs a 20/10 PF when u have guys like blatche and jetravel on the bench ready to dominate??

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Wizards knew Jamison was done whenhe got his first MRI just like they acted like Gil would be ready last year because they are hurting for season ticket holders. They didn't want folks to know that it's another here we go again type of season.

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Anyone hearing their original statement that he's miss "the remainder of the preseason" and assuming that meant he'd be back for the regular season is unwise to the ways of the Wiz. They never said that meant that he'd miss "only" preseason games.

Remember a few days ago, prior (presumably) to Jamison getting his official test results back, Gil said he's hearing Jamison could be out "6-8 weeks, just like y'all are hearing" and the reporter, Mike Jones, I believe, wrote he hadn't heard anything like that. I guess it's just like last year when Gil said, "Besides, everyone knew I was going to get another surgery." Oops!!

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 23, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

what a terrible thing it would be for AB and Javale to get starter type minutes for a few weeks and possibly develop their games.

The last thing on earth the team needs is for Jamison to come back healthy, and backed up by guys who feel like they can start and contribute.

Much better our young guys play sparingly. If haywood or jamison go down late in the year (or postseason), that will be the perfect time to rely on the young fellas for the first time.

yeah, that's it.

Posted by: divi3 | October 23, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

^ yeah because they really developed their games last year as starters...

what was our record again?

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I would much rather hear that he's gonna be out another 5-8 weeks than he's gonna try to play at 80% next week.
Here's another opportunity to see what we got as back ups. Hope it's not like last year when we tried to play AJ the whole game and then wondered how AB,JM,NY and even O Pech would play. Last year was wasted. We shudda got more PT out of the bench. It wouldn't have helped us win 20 games but sometimes you gotta lose to win.

Posted by: VBFan | October 23, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

We shudda got more PT out of the bench. It wouldn't have helped us win 20 games but sometimes you gotta lose to win.
Posted by: VBFan | October 23, 2009 5:15 PM

Funny, I remember AB, JM and Songaila all starting.

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

....if Blatche has any heart at all, he'll take the starting job from Oberto and make it hard for the coaches to just automatically insert Jamison in the lineup when he comes back. It's all up to Blatche now. Either he's ready to consistently contribute or he's still a pretender.

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 23, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I vote for the latter re: AB.

Posted by: glawrence007 | October 23, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

That said re: AB, I have always liked the idea of McGEE at #4 and HAYWOOD at #5 to start games. I'll bet however, J-MAC gets hardly a whiff of court-time, even with this injury. Of course, OBERTO or BLATCHE might get hurt, then he would see some burn. Almost certain DAVIS makes the squad until JAMISON gets back.

Posted by: glawrence007 | October 23, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we will never have a "DC BIG THREE" in order to counter the Cav's, Boston and Orlando. It seems like the injury bug stings us every year.

"WE SUCK AGAINNNNNNNNN"

Posted by: Ranger1906 | October 23, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Just a little medical update.
AJ's injury is not bad but could be a reccurent problem.Lifting wt is not hard as long as he is pain free.full range of motion and strengt is what he needs.The medical staff are not wrong or they are not hiding any thing as they did for GA.The MRI sensitivity to pick the exact injury site needs a minimum 1 week for the edema(swelling)to subside.No one try surgery as a 1st treatment for partial sublaxation of glenoid joint( shoulder).Since it does not have any advantage to avoid reccurent dislocation.
The fact that he has less pain and gaining the majority of his range of motion indicate that the actual injury to the tissue that support the joint in its position is mild to moderate which needs noting other than range of motion exercise for ordinary people.As a professional BB player he just need a 3 weeks strengting exercise.If he start the rehab now, we will have him in mid nov. If he is unable to start the actual strengthing exercise, then he is still in pain and need to rest for 2 weeks before he start exercise.That is why his time table is bettween 3-5 weeks.Nobody will know how AJ will handle the 1st 3 days of strengthing exercise, if he handled it well he will be back in 3 weeks.surery does not decrease the chance of reccurence.If he want to put the chance of reccurence to be zero AJ has to stop using his shoulder.

Posted by: gtefferra | October 23, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I can't imagine anyone thinking that McGee rather than Blatche should replace Jamison. Miller? maybe. DMac? probably not. But McGee? No absolutely no way. He is not ready for heavy minutes yet. Needs to be brought along carefully. Does he have more potential than Blatche? probably. But this team is not built for 2012.

I can't see Flip adjusting JaVale's role because of this injury. If Haywood goes down he might, yes. But not Jamison.

BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | October 23, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Funny, I remember AB, JM and Songaila all starting.

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 5:18 PM

Yeah but how long did AB & JM stay in?

Posted by: VBFan | October 23, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Basically, he's going to miss November. That's really not such a big deal.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 23, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

forget long term analysis; who's gonna guard Dirk come Tuesday? Can't see Oberto doing that, & Blatche will have 3 fouls within the first 5 minutes...

Posted by: bernard_thompson | October 23, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

& oh yeah, the Wiz instantly become a better defense team...

Posted by: bernard_thompson | October 23, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

prescrunk, you're wrong. That comment clearly is over your head, given that he's only missing a few weeks this could end up being a blessing in disguise.

Posted by: J-Wiz | October 23, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

FLIP FLOP SAUNDERS: "He's really ahead of where we anticipated, but we're being really conservative right now," Coach Flip Saunders said on Friday."

Whatever Flip Flop.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 23, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah but how long did AB & JM stay in?
Posted by: VBFan | October 23, 2009 7:28 PM

until they started SUCKING.

when u cant earn yourself big minutes on a lottery bound team where 5+ guys are out and the coach is Ed Tapscott, thats not a good sign.

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

given that he's only missing a few weeks this could end up being a blessing in disguise.

Posted by: J-Wiz | October 23, 2009 7:59 PM

Yeah and Gilbert was gonna be back by December last year, March two years ago, and Haywood has a sprained ankle. the med staff has zero credibility and neither do you

Posted by: prescrunk | October 23, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

This is an opportunity for Blatche, Miller and Oberto to grab major minutes and show Flip Saunders how much depth there is on this team. We already know what Jamison can do. We just won't be seing him until mid-November. As long as Gil, Caron and Haywood don't go down, the Wiz will be alright. Chill out!

Posted by: musicmanjr | October 23, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

...snake-bit.

...and I'm afraid Gil will be next. His legs are not back to full strength, they look too small and you can still see the size difference between his surigically repaired leg and his healthy one. This is probably why he is not shooting as much, he just doesnt have the leg strength yet to shoot for a whole game effectively.

...I think Flip will keep AB coming off the bench. He may start MM as a hybrid guard/PF a couple times. Oberto cant be his primary starter at PF. Flip has options. But hurry back AJ.

Posted by: oddjob1 | October 23, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

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