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The injury status of Antawn Jamison is the No. 1 topic of conversation. The Wizards announced yesterday that he has a subluxation of his right shoulder and will miss the rest of the preseason. Sources told Michael Lee that the injury will not require surgery.

* The Washington Times' Mike Jones says the team is proceeding with caution.

* Bullets Forever's Mike Prada notes that Jamison's injury is Andray Blatche's opportunity.

* In other health news, Truth About It wonders: Should The Wizards Be Concerned With "Cavalier Flu"?

* NBA Fanhouse has two Wizards-related pieces. A season preview and a Caron Butler feature, calling him a player to watch.

* Plus, as D.C. Sports Bog noted yesterday, Caron made the cover of Washingtonian magazine.

* Slamonline has a great article looking into new retro-modern uniforms in the NBA and offers a suggestion for the woeful Wizards look.

* NBA.com's John Schumann breaks down Gilbert Arenas's pledge that he won't shoot many three-pointers this season. On media day, Arenas said, "Since I'm going to have the ball more, I don't have to take 500 threes this year. I'm trying to take less than a hundred. I'm not going to be a 3-point shooter this year." Schumann doesn't believe it's possible for Arenas to shoot just 100, although Arenas has six attempts in the first five preseason games.

By Alexa Steele  |  October 16, 2009; 9:44 AM ET
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If he shoots only 100 threes, he's doing the team a disservice. For years our biggest problem was the disparity in the number of threes that we shot vs our opponent. I distinctly remember games in which we shot a much better fg% but lost because our opponent jacked up more threes.

We live in a world that has 3 pointers, and those threes have to be shot by men with skills. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Ernie? Gil has a greater responsibility than we could possibly fathom.... You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. And that Gil's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves games. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want Gil shooting threes, you NEED Gil shooting threes.

Posted by: original_mark | October 16, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

It would be retarded for Gil to take less than 100 3s, and he will never stick to that pledge. Gil shouldnt be taken seriously off the court, he says what he says

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

You can't go by what Gil says. You never know what he is really going to do until he does it. I think he is still feeling his way on how to play the PG position for Saunders.

However, if spends a lot of time on the floor with MM and he is going good, he would not have to shoot threes as much as he used to anyway.

Posted by: cannontl | October 16, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Well, of course, there are a few good men who can shoot 3s, and Arenas is one of them.

Mike Miller does a pretty good job, too.

Posted by: joyster8 | October 16, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

In the two years that Chauncey Billups went to the Finals with the Pistons, he shot 335 and 387 three pointers respectively.

In the other years with Flip as the head coach, Billups shot 3 and 4 hundred shots when the Pistons reached the conference finals.

My point is that Gil is overreacting and needs to play his game. He's paid to be the franchise player and that means shooting since you're the best scorer on the team.

Posted by: original_mark | October 16, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I had mentioned after Mavs game, gil's reaction to the fans was pretty lame. I think he is going all Jordan-like and searching for slights (real and imagined) to motivate him. He is going to say all sorts of stuff about passing now and wants to prove he can be a pure PG....but I have no doubt he will be the primary scorer on the floor, just like he is paid to be.

as soon as the rust is all the way off, he'll be looking to score first which is fine by me

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I think we should assume that Gil is pulling our legs. And glad there's nothing wrong with his as of yet.

In the past Arenas drew criticism for jacking up too many 3 pointers. Maybe we forgot, but Gil obviously hasn't. This hypercompetitive guy can't resist a chance to make us beg, especially for what he wanted to do all along.

You notice how many times Saunders has said of Gil, "he can get to the basket any time he wants"? That's what Flip has been looking for. With jump shooters like Foye and Miller added to the lineup, it's only natural.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 16, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

that said, Gil does take too many 3s. Cutting back from 580 to around 475 (lets say) will probably make him and the team more productive

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"that said, Gil does take too many 3s. Cutting back from 580 to around 475 (lets say) will probably make him and the team more productivePosted by: divi3"

You're probably one of the guys he hopes to irritate.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 16, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"You're probably one of the guys he hopes to irritate."

Then he's barking up the wrong tree, I dont give a rat's you-know-what about his antics....just what he does on the floor.

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Who cares if he shoots 3's. My problem with gil is he doesn't even wait for the rest of the team to get into position before he throws up a shot.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 16, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Why would anyone take anything Arenas says to the media seriously?

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Gil's new game is going to be avg 15-20 pts 10 assists per game, while getting to line 8-10 times. I like this approach as long as he can make his free throws (90% avg).

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | October 16, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Gil is trying to take on the role of leader on this team, a role he has flatly rejected in the past. We need to remember that this whole leadership thing is unchartered territory for him, and I believe he is trying to say and do the right things. Presently, he just doesn't fully understand (although he thinks he does) what those things are.

Thankfully, we are creatures of habit, and he is a natural scorer. My hope is that when the team begins to bog down (which is going to happen), that he remembers why we are paying him $111 million, and take charge and control.

There is still much for Gil to learn. He is by no means a finished product. It was quite heartening to me to see Cassell in his ear during the Cleveland game, and Gil was giving him his complete and undivided attention. Forget his words. As long as he knows how to take instruction, and doesn't think he knows it all because of his income, he will be alright. Gil wants to win, and is learning how to do that. Remember, he has not really done so consistently at this level. Perpetual winners have developed a certain mindset, and Gil will get there as long as his drive to win is not deterred by his ego.

I still maintain, though, that he should watch tape of Tiny A and Big O to see how they led the league in both scoring and assists. Gil has the same kind of potential.

Posted by: bpybay | October 16, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert has completely missed the point, so to speak, of the criticism he's received over the last two years. He's been criticized for not involving teammates, goofing around too much, not stepping up as a team leader despite having one of the richest franchise player deals in NBA history, etc. People want him to take his job more seriously, lead, involve others and do what the team & coach need, etc.. That does NOT mean giving up open looks so he won't be criticized as a ball hog or not shooting a much-needed three due to some perceived public slight. He has responded to the criticism buy reverting to a youth throwing a childish silent-treatment tantrum rather than stepping up and being the man we've all been calling for. C'mon Gil, step up to the plate and be the player we know you can be.

Posted by: SammyT1 | October 16, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"He has responded to the criticism buy reverting to a youth throwing a childish silent-treatment tantrum rather than stepping up and being the man we've all been calling for. C'mon Gil, step up to the plate and be the player we know you can be. Posted by: SammyT1"

Well, you have to admit folks here and in the media occasionally contradict themselves. More than occasionally, I suppose.

But you know, there's no shortage of players who psych themselves up by creating imaginary disresect from the outside world. Football players do it all the time. Maybe Gil is really Clinton Portis' long-lost twin brother.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 16, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I see we still have a lot of Blatche doubters and haters. To put this into perspective, the guy played the following minutes per game in his first four seasons:

6, 12, 20 and 24. That ain't much.

Nevertheless, his points per minute and rebounds per minute have improved.

Normalized to 36 minutes for illustrative purposes:

1st year - 13 points and 8 boards per 36 minutes

2nd year - 11 points and 10 boards per 36 minutes

3rd year - 13 points and 9 rebounds per 36 minutes

4th year - 15 points and 8 boards per 36 minutes

Preseason - 17.6 points and 11 points per 36 minutes.

So, rather than arguing mathematics with Samson, my prediction is that Blatche gets 30 minutes a game in Jamison's absence and averages 15 points and 10 boards a game.

If you disagree, what's your prediction for minutes played per game, points per game, and rebounds per game?

Posted by: Izman | October 16, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Gil will try and drop 60 on Opening Night. Wait and see.

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"Bullets Forever's Mike Prada notes that Jamison's injury is Andray Blatche's opportunity."

Mike Prada is a jerk. Please go shred another team. Jerk.

Why anyone would listen to anything he has to say is beyond me.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | October 16, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Kalo here. I love that he is talking stupid stuff. I don't take it seriously and I am sure hedoesn't either. He is getting more press by saying he doesn't want press than if he tried to get press.

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone take anything Arenas says to the media seriously?

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 11:41 AM

Agreed. Does anyone really think Gil intends to shoot approx. one 3-pointer a game? This was yet another ludicrous statement that left his mouth a nano-second after it popped into his brain.

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 16, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Izman - going from 8boards per 36 in his first season to 8 boards per 36 in his fourth isn't an improvement, and going from 13 to 15 isn't much of one (but could be the diference some game). How about comparing his Assists and his turnovers?

My only prediction is that he will have 27 & 13 w/ 5 blocks one night and then have 3 and 6 on 1 for 11 shooting and going 1 for 4 from the line with 6 TOs and 2 dimes while fouling out in the 3rd quarter.

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

So, rather than arguing mathematics with Samson, my prediction is that Blatche gets 30 minutes a game in Jamison's absence and averages 15 points and 10 boards a game.

If you disagree, what's your prediction for minutes played per game, points per game, and rebounds per game?

How many turnovers does he average?! And fouls?! It's more than point and rebound averages. Besides if Jamison got 20 and 8 every night...and Dray gave you 4 15/10 games and his usual 4 5/5 games to counter it...he would still be giving you 15 and 10 ON AVERAGE. The thing is there is no steady meidum...it's constantly up and down. He'll give you 15 and 10 with 2-3+ turnovers and some really dumb fouls. He needs do develop consistency.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 16, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Blurred...you beat me to it by 1 minute. LOL

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 16, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

By the way Iz...not meaning to bust your chops. Good stats and thanks.

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Putting aside the utter meaninglessness of extrapolated per minute stats . . . if we were to actually take that listing of Blatche's fantasy line at face value, it only shows that he hasn't improved much at all over the past 4 years. Both his scoring and rebounding all fall within a very narrow range that can easily be taken as normal fluctuation or margin of error (i.e., 13 pts/8 rebs in year 1, 15 pts/8 rebs in year 4). There's no meaningful uptick in anything.

Now, I'm sure someone will claim that going from 11 ppg in year 2 to 15 ppg in year 4 is a big deal. It's not. He "averaged" (cough*cough) 13 ppg in year 1, then regressed to 11 in year 2, before returning to the previous baseline in year 3 at 13 again. (Again, assuming that the numbers actually have any substantive value, which they really don't).

As for his preseason numbers . . . it's preseason. Who cares? But then, who really cares about any of it, since it's all made up in the first place?

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Of course you could state it kalo's way, too! lol

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

BTW, if you were to extrapolate all of Blatche's preseason numbers out to 36 mpg, he'd commit just under 6 1/2 fouls per game which.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

. . . which is physically impossible.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

But is it psychicly impossible?

I believe Blatche has super humen mental powers that when extrapolated to a 36 mpg mean that he can actuall score in another dimension.

Hence, all those seemingly errant passes into the stands are actually him playing 2 or maybe 3 games at once.

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Kallie, put your diapers away and make a prediction.

Blurred, good point on the fluctuations. I'll include the standard deviation in the final tally (and compare it to Butler's).

Posted by: Izman | October 16, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

So...he is actually avging 30 -45 pp36 and 16-24 rbp36 and approximately 12-15 fouls per36

now thats efficiency!

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to put the diapers away, but if I did I wouldn't have anything to wrap your copious piles of crap in, now would I?

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Obviously - just kidding around and don't mean to cause any offense. I am off to the gym to get my old azz schooled by a bunch of 22 year olds.

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Dude kalo- chill out!

Posted by: Blurred | October 16, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

"I'll include the standard deviation in the final tally (and compare it to Butler's)."

Translation: He'll make up some more numbers that he hopes will paper over the fact that his previous set of made up numbers not only failed to prove his point but actually disputed it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 16, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I see we still have a lot of Blatche doubters and haters. To put this into perspective, the guy played the following minutes per game in his first four seasons:

6, 12, 20 and 24. That ain't much.

Nevertheless, his points per minute and rebounds per minute have improved.

Normalized to 36 minutes for illustrative purposes:

1st year - 13 points and 8 boards per 36 minutes

2nd year - 11 points and 10 boards per 36 minutes

3rd year - 13 points and 9 rebounds per 36 minutes

4th year - 15 points and 8 boards per 36 minutes

Preseason - 17.6 points and 11 points per 36 minutes.

So, rather than arguing mathematics with Samson, my prediction is that Blatche gets 30 minutes a game in Jamison's absence and averages 15 points and 10 boards a game.

If you disagree, what's your prediction for minutes played per game, points per game, and rebounds per game?
Posted by: Izman | October 16, 2009 1:05 PM

Bltache is deifnitely showing improvement .I don't normally like these projections based on minutes played. The fact of the matter is Blatche has proven to be a walking foul deliverer. There is no way he would even still be in a game past 24 minutes in some of those years. I am still not convinced he can stay on the floor because of his penchant for fouling. I hoping he can but we'll see.

Posted by: ptp23 | October 16, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

If Blatche makes a huge improvement this year, and I believe he will, it'll be because he is finally giving the full effort required to be consistent. I'm not sure linear progressions can take work ethic into account. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Blatche gives the Wiz more of what their frontcourt needs: size and defensive presence.

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 16, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Kallie, actually I wasn't trying to make any points - just a prediction.

Over his career, Blatche has averaged .38 points per minute and .24 rebounds per minute. That's equivalent to what I had written, but you can ignore that as well.

What's your prediction for Blatche's minutes played per game, points per game and rebounds per game in Jamison's absence?

Your record of predictions (e.g., Crit) hasn't done too well, which may be why 99% of your comments are critical.

Posted by: Izman | October 16, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Here what Blatche has averaged per 36 minutes for fouls over his first four years:

7.4, 5.0, 5.5, 4.5.

His turnovers per 36 are about the same as Caron's (roughly 2.5).

Posted by: Izman | October 16, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

7.4, 5.0, 5.5, 4.5.

His turnovers per 36 are about the same as Caron's (roughly 2.5).


That's really not good...Caron was a lead player who played WAY more minutes. And had the ball in his hands a lot more. Blatche is averaging 2 TO's a game in the preseason which you're giving actual value to...so if you stretch him to 36 minutes...that's 3+ TO's a game...and that's getting into PG range.

Compare his TO numbers to Jamison's. Im just guessing but if it was a way to mesaure TO's by actual touches I think Blatche would look a lot worse.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 16, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

The question shouldnt be what are Blatche's numbers per 36, it should be:

How in the hell did he not average 36mins a game last year? Because he is downright atrocious all too often, and there comes a point the coach MUST sit you for your play. No matter what we are trying to figure out about him or the team.

Blatche is an excellent player-- relative to his draft position. Likelihood is that when it's all said and done for his career, he wont bee able to hold Jamison's jock in comparison.

But look at their pedigrees...not really a big surprise

Posted by: divi3 | October 16, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

All this ragging on Blatche is getting tedious. It's not as if the Wizards had to use a high lottery pick to get him, and he's got a cheap contract. And AB may not be Dwight Howard or Amare, but he definitely can play. He's got a good-albeit streaky--outside jumper and great moves around the rim, and he's a phenomenal passer for a big man. He'd be a good defender, except for his stupid tendency to commit touch fouls, which hopefully Flip can cure him of. He could hit the boards harder--that's his big weakness, in my view.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 16, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

pjkider: "He's got a good-albeit streaky--outside jumper and great moves around the rim"

Let's qualify that. Blatche is able to hit some impressive shots, such as that turnaround jumper he likes to shoot from about 18 feet out, but he also puts up air balls. Worse still, he's better shooting off the dribble than the catch, and you don't want your six=eleven player putting the ball on the floor where the little guys can get their hands on it. About that move going to the basket: He's fine on the first step but is prone to charges if he has to take an additional step.

If Blatche wanted to improve his game, he'd learn shoot a reliable jumper off the pass.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 16, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

what's with using the word retarded to describe something stupid? retarded doesn't mean stupid. if you wouldn't use the N word or any other slur, why does retarded get a pass?

Posted by: jacobsfam | October 17, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Bc they're igorant! lol

My two cents on Blatche just by watching him is he has improved ever so slightly, but still has room to grow. What is he? All of 23 still? I don't see him as ever reaching even quasi all-star status, but I do see him evolving into a very solid pro with a diversified skill set. This season will be his best and I think by next year he could be a starter if need be, but a great guy coming off the bench. When his career is over, he will be the best player taken in his round of the draft and probably half the first round too. Such a terrible pick by EG! lol

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 17, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

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