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Morning buzz

Michael Lee's been busy. Here's a report from yesterday's practice, which describes how tough the first 15 games of the season could be for the Wizards.

And here is his story from Sunday's newspaper about Gilbert Arenas's latest incarnation. Plus he wrote Wizards player and coach bios, and top NBA storylines and predictions.

Mike Wise and Michael Wilbon chime in with their thoughts on the upcoming season.

Complete preview coverage -- including an Arenas timeline and photo gallery, and a video about team swag by Dan Steinberg -- is here.

* The Washington Times's Mike Jones offers his take on this chapter of Arenas's career. Here's his NBA preview and Tom Knott's views on the league.

* Here is Truth About It's season preview.

* And here are a season preview and predictions from Bullets Forever's Mike Prada.

* NBA.com's Vincent Thomas examines the difference between franchise players and foundation players. He lists 21 foundation players (talented players that can put their teams in contention) and six franchise players (transcendent athletes who can actually carry a team to a title). Guess where Gilbert Arenas fits into the equation? [Added 10:49 am.]

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I agree with Mike's predictions the Wizards in the middle of the playoff picture and either a 1st or 2nd round loss.

Abe and his accounts will be thrilled.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 26, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

The Lakers, Spurs, Cavs, Magic, and/or Celtics all do have a chance to win it all.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 26, 2009 9:42 AM

Yes those teams do have a chance at winning it all. I asked that you pick 1 team.

Do the wizards have a chance, yes, though the odds are lower than those teams. But, there are question marks on those teams too. And all but 1 will end up losing there last game. In my opinion, this is the best team the wizards would have put on the floor in decades. I think Ernie should be commended for what he is doing, vs what he didn't do because what he isn't capable of doing is signing aging all-stars on the cheap that want to chase a ring by prostituting themselves. If the wizards were healthy and established themselves as a threat last year, maybe the wizards can get a bargain, now, all they can get is the Oberto's of the world

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 26, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"Abe and his accounts will be thrilled."

this is the type of statement that make people think you want the Zards to lose.

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I think a 150 year old man who is a sneeze away from a coffin is really concerned about his bottom line in the last week of his life.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 26, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

divi3, SDMDTSU, G-Man11

Why do you guys get on my case? Did the old man do everything he could (spending wise) to help this team win a championship? NO!

They could have spent the full MLE and kept their 2nd round pick, instead of getting 2.5 mil for it?

They could have made a better deal with Minn and got a later 1st round pick but all of those moves would have cost them $$$$.

It's not like they planned to be over the cap this year (like the lakers, cavs, bos, spurs, and orl), no Ernie got stuck with bad deals (like Utah)and tried to bail the organization out by trading the 1st round pick and selling the 2nd round pick.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 26, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

"tried to bail the organization out by trading the 1st round pick"

in hindsight people may be looking at lawson's availability at #5...but at the time, it looked more like tyreke who ended up at the 4th. And while some peope cried that Menudo was available at 5...ernie's move to get Miller/Foye generally received great reviews around the league.

can you please tell me who we could have signed but didnt? We made a big play for Amare- how much bigger name player is there? Not getting him apparently came down to our refusal to package Caron in the deal, not $$$

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

bulletsfan78

I understand the 2nd round pick disappointment. Until I see who was willing to accept the full MLE, I cannot hold the wiz accountable becuase I would not give it to any old free agent. Until I know a Rasheed would take our MLE, then I won't complain.

The other thing, not one of the second round picks this year would put the wizards over the proverbial hump. Yes, we should have taken Blair though. I do agree with that.

Now, I would rather look at what we do have instead of focusing on what we don't have. At some point trade Mike James or don't resign him, sign and trade other people if possible, and fill in gaps.

Washington has players. They have keepers at every position. Can they upgrade, of course. But what they really need is for the puppies to turn into legitimate vets.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 26, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

can you please tell me who we could have signed but didnt?

Posted by: divi3

I been asking them to do that but they don't. All they want to do is complain. Just like I asked them to pick who will win the championship and they haven't. All they want to do is pick the wizards as the team that won't win. I am still waiting for them to do that too.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 26, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

While I really like the Foye/Miller trade, it is really hard to rationalize not taking Blair with that 2nd pick. Understand the concerns about durability but given our need for rebounding and interior muscle/nastiness I cannot justify not taking a chance on him given the price tag and having an open roster spot.

So much more painful with Mark daily posting Blair's numbers. More painful still with AJ down and having to start Oberto.

Blair's knees may still give out in the near future but even six weeks of contribution at the start of this season would have been more than worth the half mil needed to sign him.

This is also not just a case of hindsight being 20/20, a great many of us recognized the potential benefit at the time of the draft. This was not a sleeper situation.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | October 26, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

"More painful still with AJ down and having to start Oberto."

I dont buy Flip's talk about starting Oberto so Blatche can be acclimated to his backup role when Antawn returns. He's 23 years old and entering his 5th year in the league, bad sign he cant beat out Oberto and play the 38mins a night Jamison would have.

This preseason again showed AB lacking consistency, which has been his problem all along.

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

This preseason again showed AB lacking consistency, which has been his problem all along.

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2009 12:02 PM

Concur.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | October 26, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

There is a reason that will never happen:
The Wizards are meant to be a family, that is the culture that Pollin has maintained all these years. Fitting in, maintaining a hierarchy within the team, etc. will not allow for example what the Cavaliers or Celtics have done: hire bench guys who are just as good as the first unit and who will deliver when they come in. That means being able to compete against the other teams' starters. The Wizards management do not like heavy personnel turnover (unlike Cavs or Magic). Unfortunately, their personnel costs are just as high as the other teams that do move players without conscience or compunction.

The Wizards second unit is weak and will never dominate another team's first unit.

Posted by: rickgonz | October 26, 2009 11:44 AM

Rickgonz,

Did you just have a long nap. This post is about a year too late.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 26, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who bought into Blatche's happy talk about "a new beginning" this season must be suffering from selective amnesia. He says the same thing before every season and it never turns out to be true. He is what he is, a decent but erratic 20 mpg backup. He's done nothing to suggest he'll ever be more than that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Do we really know what the starting lineup will be?

I cannot see Oberto starting. I would like to see Blatche, Haywood, Butler, Arenas and Miller.

That would be my starting five. When Haywood plays with Blatche he is more aggressive because he knows that Blatche has his back on D'.

I don't know if anyone else has noticed that, but it is true.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 26, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The best, most aggressive game Haywood played this preseason was the Philly game, when Oberto was starting at PF.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"Why do you guys get on my case? Did the old man do everything he could (spending wise) to help this team win a championship? NO!"

Yes, actually. He bolstered the team's depth by getting an up-and-coming young scorer and a vet shooter/playmaker on what are essentially "rent with first option to buy" deals. He made the team better without committing to bloated, long-term salaries. That's the definition of wise spending.

"They could have spent the full MLE and kept their 2nd round pick, instead of getting 2.5 mil for it?"

And who was out there that would have been worth $11.5 mill (the full MLE multiplied by two because of the luxury tax)? Big Baby Davis? HA!

"They could have made a better deal with Minn and got a later 1st round pick..."

And how do you know that?

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Are the Wizards contenders this season? No. Are they better than they have been in previous seasons? Yes. That's step one on the road to building a contender. The fact that they aren't there this season doesn't mean they can't get there with this core. It's a process. This is step one. (Well, step two, actually. Getting Arenas and Jamison was step one.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Rickgonz,

Did you just have a long nap. This post is about a year too late.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 26, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I actually waited for the preseason games to see how they looked. As you said, this culture has always been there. It may have worked maybe, but with the NEW lineups and having seen what the other teams can do, it is time to understand that 70s/80s styles won't work anymore. Everyone else is aggressively cutthroat.

Posted by: rickgonz | October 26, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

BTW, the Wizards can go after Wade next year. They should. The question is how are they going to manage the rest of the team? I like guys like Blatche, McGee, McGuire, but have to accept we won't get a championship with them on board. Maybe they're worth something to other teams like Pecherov is worth something to the Wolves?

Posted by: rickgonz | October 26, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I think some people are forgetting we paid Arenas a mint, and that the idea is when Gil's 100% healthy we have a franchise player that then needs components to work with.

Yes, Gil/Butler/AJ didnt win last time. But the idea is we've added superior pieces. And yes, Miller and Foye can be difference making players to any team.

We dont have to win the Championship this year, nor should anyone expect to. The idea is a 3-4yr run with this group (jamison doesnt have 4yrs left obviously) and step1 is this season.

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I challenge all these glass half-empty so-called wizards fans would be willing to bet the house and pick 1 team to win the championship. bulletsfan78, dcman88, who are you willing to bet will win the ring. You can only take 1 team. You can't say one of the Lakers, Spurs, Cavs, Magic, or Celtics will win it.

----

Gman and Divi - This is what i've been saying for a week.

that the vast majority of people said the Wiz would go 6-9 wins in the first 15 games is a case in point. That could be 6 & 9 or 9&6 or 7&8 or 8&7. basically the same as saying after 15 games, the wizards will either be a .400 team or a .600 team. Tough call. about 70% of the NBA will be somehwere between .600 and .400, including at least 2 of the so-called elite 5 teams and probably at least 5 of the other 17 teams that didn't make the playoffs.

Isn't anyone here able to make a prediction that they are willing to stand with? BF78 is the closest by saying a first round exit, but then again, that will be true for 25% of the NBA.

Tell me your prediction for final record.

In August, I said 56 wins. After the first preseason game, I said 53. I am now saying 51, mainly cuz I think AJ being hurt will cause us to lose 2 games we would have won between now and Jan 1.

Oh yes...and Mike James will have more PPG than DeJaun Blair.

Anyone willing to make a concrete prediction? Anyone?

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"I like guys like Blatche, McGee, McGuire, but have to accept we won't get a championship with them on board. Maybe they're worth something to other teams like Pecherov is worth something to the Wolves?"

Mcgee is absolutely a keeper for now. IMHO, he's shown more improvement in 1 offseason that AB has in 4yrs. We could get lucky and JaVale develop into a real force at 5, all the tools are there.

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I think that if the wizards get a 4-5 seed, they will make the 2nd round. If they get 6-8, and are healthy, bring on seeds 1, 2, or 3 too. Let's just the wizards won't get swept if healthy, a 6 or 7 game series. They will upset somebody to make the second round.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 26, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I like guys like Blatche, McGee, McGuire, but have to accept we won't get a championship with them on board. Maybe they're worth something to other teams like Pecherov is worth something to the Wolves?

Posted by: rickgonz |

Are you insane? I'm not saying that any of these guys are going to be the missing piece that gets us to the championship, but giving up on a 20 year old with one season in the nba? Or a 2nd year player that hustles and does whatever you ask of him and costs next to nothing?

This team may need some changes to win a championship, but ditching Mcgee and/or McGuire isn't the top priority.


Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Blurred,
No offense but it strikes me as funny for you to ask for a "final prediction" from everyone as you note changing your own three times to date. Is there going to be a prize for whoever has the exact number of wins at the end of the season? I won a jar of candy in the 3rd grade for guessing there were 42 pieces inside the jar...maybe this is some fantasy sport thing I just do not understand.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | October 26, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I also believe we will make it to the 2nd round. Once there, almost anything can happen. I had hoped AB and NY had progressed more than they have shown so far. If they use the playing time they get to learn to foul less and play a little D and maintain their offens, then we should make it to the Conference Finals.

So far, I don't see that happening, though.

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

whos starting at the 2 gaurd?

i think it should be nick young...sord of by default.

with Jamison being out, we need another scorer in the line up with out hurting our depth at the bench. stevenson is a defender and miller is too slow to gaurd the other teams best perimeter player. and his offense isnt enough to make up for that.

not saying nick young is better defensively but he could be an option (scoring wise) behind Gil and Caron. and then we work in the blatches,millers and foyes. but all in all..i think Nick will be starting tommorow night.

Posted by: mrhney03 | October 26, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"Mcgee is absolutely a keeper for now. IMHO, he's shown more improvement in 1 offseason that AB has in 4yrs."

Agreed. Obviously he still has a long way to go, but he showed improved court sense in the preseason and, given his incredible physical ability, the gap he needs to close isn't that big. Contrast that to Blatche who, heading into his 5th year, is still short-arming shots around the rim and releasing the ball below the basket (despite being 7 feet tall) and passing up simple passes for fancy ones that end up sailing into the second row.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"whos starting at the 2 gaurd?

i think it should be nick young...sord of by default."

I had a similar thought. If they start Oberto at PF then they can't start another nonscorer in Stevenson at SG. Best options are Foye and Young. Young makes more sense in terms of combos with other players on the floor.

If they start Miller at SG that means Foye ends up being the primary ballhandler/playmaker off the bench, which is not the best thing IMO. If they start Foye that means Young will have to split much of the ballhandler/playmaker responsibilities off the bench (with Miller). That's an even worse thing.

Starting him with Arenas means Young won't have to worry about running the offense and can just do his thing. He likely wouldn't play real starters minutes, but that could work for the team. Put him out there long enough to put some points on the board, then yank him before his lack of defense and poor decision making becomes a burden.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Why are we still whining about the draft??
It's Over!
And the Wizzies came out of the draft pretty good.
They got 3 proven vets for 2 big ? marks.

The NBA season is long. I think the first half of the season will be a getting acquainted with a new coach & new team mates and re acquainted with returning injured players period. If we are anywhere near 500 after 40 games I'll be happy. If we come together in the 2nd half of the season and peak for the playoffs ----- look out.

Posted by: VBFan | October 26, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I am just saying to put it out there. Not like anyone is going to find you at your home and heckle you in front of your mom.

This isn't meant for you, particularly, just that there are a lot of people who are making wildly generic statements, yet act like they have some secret insight into how the wiz will perform. If you don't know what to expect, I think it is fair to say "damn, this team is erratic as hell. I have no idea how they'll do."

At least that is honest. We've seen the preseason and the games start tomorrow. When woudl be a more appropriate time to make a prediction (guess?) than today?

Would you prefer to make predictions in April? About either this season or next? August was to early and April (or even November) is too late.

Just tired of people saying that the Wiz will be "around .500" That isn't really a prediction, just saying that the wiz will be in the mix with the 24 teams that don't completely suck or are winning 60 games, but allows the predictor to say he/she was right if they win anywhere from 33 to 49 games. I'm just asking for them to step up with a more specific prediction or simply say, I have no idea.

If you think they will actually be .500, then say they'll go 41 & 41.

All this is just us fans (and DCman) spouting off our thoughts. I am just asking that folks put up.

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Kalo: Both your comments immediately above make sense to me. I'd love to hear your predictions for wins and playoff success. Indulge me?

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in the prediction making business. Never have been.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

If Nick Young winds up being the starter, he better get used to the quick hook if he starts the game struggling on offense. More than anyone else on this team, he hangs his head if his first few shots don't go in and seemingly loses all confidence. Now if you couple that with the fact that he doesn't see the floor very well and has never played one minute of defense in his life, this season should be very interesting for him in terms of finding out what it takes to be an NBA player.

Posted by: Firuz1 | October 26, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Kal - too bad. I'd like to have heard your guesses.

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

One of the reasons I don't predict specific win totals is because I don't think they matter very much in the big picture. For playoff bound teams they're only relevant to the extent that they determine seeding and homecourt advantage. Beyond that, they're meaningless.

By way of example, in the past 5 years, at least 4 teams have won 60 or more games in the regular season only to not make it to the Finals. Two of them didn't even make it out of the first round.

Here's a question to those on the 50+ bandwagon: Would you prefer the Wiz won 50 games and ended up with the 5th or 6th seed in the playoffs? Or would you rather they won 44 games and ended up with the number 4 seed and homecourt advantage in the first round? Because both scenarios are very possible.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Correction:

"One of them didn't even make it out of the first round. Another failed to make it out of the second."

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Kal,

I don’t know what you do for a living but you argue a case worse than Christopher Darden and Marcia Clark did the OJ Simpson trial?

1st point I said “Spending Wise” to win a championship and you turn it around to wise spending?

I bring up spending the full MLE and you say it’s not worth it because of the luxury cap? Which proves my point the old man is too cheap to go all in to win a championship.

Did you know a team is allowed to split the MLE on 2 players if they want? They could have spent the rest or part of 3.5 mil on another player (Joe Smith) since they cashed in the 2nd round pick!

I bring up the Minn deal and your only comment is “And how do you know that?”

How do you know Minn wouldn’t have? See how easy that is? It’s called holding out for what you want and need to win, but around here the owner, GM and some fans are willing to just settle for what you get.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 26, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

G-Man11,

Go back and read the first post on here I said, I agree with Mike's predictions (46 wins), the Wizards will be in the middle of the playoff picture (4th or 5th seed) and will either lose in the 1st or 2nd.

Abe and his accounts will be thrilled if they make the 2nd round of the playoffs because he will make back all of the cash he paid in the luxury cap this (the only) year he ever went over and not by choice may I add.

This is for all of you…I predict the Lakers will win the championship this year. They have a tradition of winning out there and (yes, Larry like NC they aren’t happy with second place) they are willing to do what it takes (spending wise) to win. They resigned Odom to 7.5 (15 mil in luxury cap cash) to keep him? They went out and signed Artest to a 5.8 (11.6 mil in luxury cap cash) to bring in a proven guy who can play shut down "D".

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 26, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why I waste my time other than the personal satisfaction I get from humiliating you.

"1st point I said “Spending Wise” to win a championship and you turn it around to wise spending?"

So you're claiming I misinterpreted your argument because I reversed two words in a way that completely failed to alter the meaning of the key phrase? Utter nonsense. Or is that nonsense, utterly? Whatever. Pick one.

"I bring up spending the full MLE and you say it’s not worth it because of the luxury cap? Which proves my point the old man is too cheap to go all in to win a championship."

And, for the umpteenth time, when asked directly who the Wizards should and could have signed with the MLE that (A) would have been worth diving headlong into the luxury tax and (B) would have made them a title contender, you crap your pants and start running off at the mouth about nothing in particular. Spending money just to say you spent money isn't very "wise" is it? No? Then why are you whining like a stuck pig because Pollin didn't do it?

Again: Who should they have signed that would have been worth that financial investment?

"They could have spent the rest or part of 3.5 mil on another player (Joe Smith) since they cashed in the 2nd round pick!"

Oh yeah, because Joe Smith is just a championship magnet. It's like the Larry O'Brien trophy is stalking him or something. I bet the citizens of Atlanta are looking forward to that victory parade.

"How do you know Minn wouldn’t have? "

I don't (although the fact that they didn't does serve as circumstantial evidence). But then, I'm not the one making an assertive argument that they failed to do something they could have done while offering no proof that they could have done the thing I'm accusing them of failing to do.

It’s called holding out for what you want and need to win . . . "

No, it's called speculative B.S. that contradicts your own argument. Your entire rant is based on the notion that Pollin failed to do what he could to build a contender now. How, exactly, would getting another mid-to-late first round project rookie have helped them win now? Because none of the handful they already have seem to have done the job.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

bulletsfan78

I respect your prediction.

Now, as far as Abe/luxury cap/etc., again, who wanted our MLE that would have helped us? Being that you think Abe should not be in the business to make money.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 26, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"Bulletsfan78",

lmao, dude, you like to live in "what if" world don't you. Fast forward to 2009 and stop living in the past. Abe has done quite well on the spending front recently to build a contender. Perhaps as a final push to see a championship team before he expires. Regardless of outcome, he has put forth the effort with the help of EG to do so. Sometimes you need more luck than anything, something this franchise has never had i.e. Arenas gets hurt. So, relax, enjoy the solid team we have and hope for some luck. Otherwise, quit moaning and groaning about hypotheticals that exist only in your head. Damn - if only we had drafted Dejuan Blair, we would have made the finals this year!

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 26, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I think Bulletsfan78 would have wanted to trade Jamison, Butler, and McGee for Shaq!

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 26, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

like i've said before, bullets78 is a lakers fan who hates gil for crapping 60 on kobe's head

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in the prediction making business. Never have been.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse


so stop riding C0ck blurred..

Posted by: mrhney03 | October 26, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather see the Wiz win 51 games + and believe if they do, they will be the 3rd, fourth or 5th seed.

If they win that many games, it means they are playing well and going deep on their roster.

If they only win 44 games I don't believe it matters if they are 4th seed or 6th, because they still won't be competitive with the more "elite" teams. 44 wins, while good for our team, doesn't show much dominance or consistency.

So far, we have 46 wins for BF78 and 51 from me.

Anyone?

Kalo, can you tell me how many 44 win teams went to the finals?

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

so stop riding C0ck blurred..

Posted by: mrhney03 |

I told a guy I agreed with his comments and asked for his opinion and I am doing something wrong?

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

what does that mean anyway?

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

wow...I need to be more creative to circumvent filtering. I tried to submit a post earlier where I simply referred to the Blair/draft talk as the Blair B1tch Project and it went into the void.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | October 26, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Right now we have the team for the first half of the season...so suck it up. As always the wiz need to learn to play half-way decent D to have any hope for a run in the playoffs! End of story.

Posted by: MAK3 | October 26, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

That is funny shadow

Posted by: Blurred | October 26, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

lol...I have to agree with Kal that predictions matter little. That being said I had them down for 50 although the Jamison injury along with the Haywood injury along with the Miller/Arenas sickness has probably set them back more than a few games. This team needed all the time it could get in the preseason to gel and didn't get it. Hence, my final preseason prediction is 47 for what it is worth. Perhaps a very strong finish can get them back to 50, which would bode well for their postseason chances.

Let's get this thing started!

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 26, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"Kalo, can you tell me how many 44 win teams went to the finals?"

(A) The fact that you ask that question means you obviously missed my point. Regular season win totals don't guarantee or even reasonably predict anything about what can or will happen in the playoffs, so obsessing over them is pointless. (B) At least one that I know of off the top of my head: the Washington Bullets in 77-78 (they won, BTW).

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 26, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

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