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Morning brew

In an attempt to find the silver lining for Wizards fans, we offer this: The Wizards will play only one game over the next seven days, and it's at home (Saturday against Detroit). So they should have plenty of down time to heal (Randy Foye became the latest injury victim Tuesday night) and get guys back (Antawn Jamison and Mike Miller).

With those pleasantries out of the way, we take a look back at the Wizards' 90-76 loss to the Heat in Miami Tuesday night. The Wizards scored 27 points in the first quarter, then scored 27 points total in the second half to set a season low for points in a game.

That would now be five straight losses and six out of seven since that promising win at Dallas on opening night.

Michael Lee breaks it down in his postgame thoughts, written and spoken.

The Washington Times' Mike Jones was also on hand, pointing out that Gilbert Arenas fell two assists shy of a triple double, though of course that's if you counted his career-high 12 turnovers.

Here's the gamer from the Miami Herald.

As usual, highlights courtesy of NBA.com:

Around the League...

Michael Wilbon offers a humble proposal: Allen Iverson to the Cavaliers.

Tom Knott of the Washington Times also weighed in on Iverson.

Elsewhere, Shaquille O'Neal is getting divorced, which does not come as a big surprise.

Here's NBA.com's Daily Zap to get you quickly caught up on the other six games in the league Tuesday night:

By Ed Guzman  |  November 11, 2009; 8:12 AM ET
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Comments

You mean Shaq's getting divorced because he spent the past couple of years getting inside Gilbert's fiancée?

Posted by: awb9h | November 11, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

What is it going to take in order to change this medical staff? How many seasons need to be ruined by lingering, misdiagnosed injuries before these idiots no longer have a job. Why don't we take a cue from the Suns who managed to keep Nash, Hill, and Shaq healthy and do extensive team stretching before and after the game. Is this shocking to anyone else? I mean we may have to start Cassell because we've lost ALL our depth at the guard positions already, EIGHT GAMES into the season, this is ridiculous.

We'll just blame it on some nebulous thing like the "curse", but let's put the blame where it belongs, on a consistently poor performing medical staff.

Posted by: OffseasonChamps | November 11, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

"I'm always upset when I have turnovers. I'd rather just shoot the ball and get the attempts than get the turnovers," said Arenas who missed 13 of his 20 field goal attempts.

"It's the same thing," a frustrated Saunders said. "When things get bad, we as individuals try to do too much instead of trying to get everybody involved. Then we made some bad decisions, turned the ball over, had some charges that were called. But it wasn't for a lack of effort."

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And that's your ballgame, folks. Please drive home safely.

Posted by: ArmChairQB | November 11, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Hairberto was on the floor 17mins last night and posts a 1reb stat line. Zero shot attempts, zero assists, zero blocks. But boy those intangibles and little things sure helped!

Debrick plays 40mins and does little to nothing but get torched.

once again dom shows some hustle and D in the little pt he gets.

Come on Flip, play Javale and Dom. Oberto is an invisible man, it's 5 against 4 with him out there, and your defensive specialist DS isnt.

Let the youngsters out their cages!

Posted by: divi3 | November 11, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Obviously Arenas is pressing. He tried to put the team on his back and carry them, but right now, he can't (fatigue? rust?). He did well balancing scoring and assist in the 1st half, why abandon it?

Regarding PG situation, wonder if we can give Cassel a 10-day contract? Can we petition the league for one more player? How about negotiate a buyout for Mike James? Or, trade NY for "future considerations," somebody would take it.

Posted by: sagaliba | November 11, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

during this 5 game slide, stevenson is shooting 7% from beyond the arc (1-14) and 26% overall.

At what point is enough enough? You really cant blame him, he's trying his best and at some point his lack of production is on the coach for continuing to give him so much pt while others sit

Posted by: divi3 | November 11, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Well, with Arenas being the only PG, if we don't sign anybody, I expect DS will be the backup PG.

Posted by: sagaliba | November 11, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

In DS's defense, Wade scored 14 of his 41 points in the 4th quarter; many of them came from Wizards turnovers. When you threw the ball directly to Wade, and let him ran down court with no one in front of him, no defender in this league can defend that! In fact, by Wade's own admission, he didn't shoot well in the game.

Posted by: sagaliba | November 11, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

There will be another PG on the roster by Friday, or these front office dudes are brain dead.

Patience is usually a virtue, but not after years of injuries and another onslaught of injuries this year including to 3.5 of the 4 PGs.

For example, without requiring much imagination or controversy, they can move NY for a back-up point guard.

Let's get real.

Posted by: Izman | November 11, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Sam Cassell on a 10-day contract would provide some immediate relief. He knows the offense and has practiced with the team and knows the players. Even if he could give us 10-15 minutes a night until we got back Foye, I think we'd be in better shape.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 11, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

You can't sign 10 contracts until some time in January. As for a roster exemption, the Wiz wouldn't get one because no one on the roster has a season ending injury. Actually, they are all short term, so things might get better. Might.

Even if we could get a roster exemption, another contract would count against the cap, along with everyone else on the roster, and we all know that the Wiz are as far over the cap as they plan to go. The only option I see is to trade James with his expiring contract, but I doubt the Wiz plan on replacing that contract with someone else, as they will surely need that space to resign their own free agents this summer.

Posted by: original2cents | November 11, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Are we looking at the same games..the team starts off shootin well and Agent is always the leading scorer and in the second half it seems as if caron is tryin to out do him...just my thoughts he lead the team in second half shots...5 games str8 caron has a total of 0 asst and haywood has a total of 0 asst in the last 5 games...thats 2 starters with 0 asst in 5 games....that might be the reason the ball stops in the second half...two players dont pass ....oberto is 3rd in asst on this team..wow..go CAPS WIZ AND SKINS...YEA RIGHT GO CAVS

Posted by: MrNoOne | November 11, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Zards have the same record as the Red-zones.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!

Posted by: mabkhar | November 11, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I ponder as to why Javale is not playing. To me to chalk it up to inexperience and not being ready just does not cut it.

Can anybody give just cause as to why Javale does not get playing time? He is clearly as good as any rookie and other young inexperienced players that get pt on other Teams.

Does it really make sense and is there a valid reason for him not to get pt on this Team?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 11, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Is there a valid reason to give him mins? He plays well in spurts and that's about it. Seemed to me BH and AB played just fine last night. More phantom armchair coaching.

The play where Foye got hurt sums up the season. He jumped over to guard someone and landed on their foot. Totally unnecessary. It wasn't a rebound or going up to contest a shot. Nope. Just a random jump over on defense. My first thought was why was he jumping there in the first place and my second was figures he gets hurt needlessly.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 11, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't help noticing how Roy Hibbert handled Javale the other night. Same thing Marc Gasol did to him last year. Looks like they just back him down towards the basket and throw a hip, and he goes flying.

I don't see a ready fix for that. McGee is OK defensively against quick centers, but maybe he ought not to defend stronger players at all. It's just too easy for them. On the other hand, you'd think with his quickness and leaping ability, they'd be helpless against Javale defensively. If he could hit those shots, I mean.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 11, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"Is there a valid reason to give him mins?"

Did Fab log minutes at center last night or all at PF? I didnt see the whole game.

Posted by: divi3 | November 11, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"Can anybody give just cause as to why Javale does not get playing time? He is clearly as good as any rookie and other young inexperienced players that get pt on other Teams."

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD

I'd love to see him on the court more too, but I've noticed now and again guys motioning for him to "move here, run over and set a screen there, defend that area" when he's on the court. So maybe he doesn't have firm grasp of all his assignments in their O/D sets. Just a guess. He's still pretty raw.

Posted by: ArmChairQB | November 11, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"If he could hit those shots, I mean."

Which shots? He's only taken 13 all year and is shooting 53%

Posted by: divi3 | November 11, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Eight assists for ARENAS, but five came in the first quarter when the WIZ controlled the game. As soon as the HEAT began upping the "heat" in the second quarter, Agent Zero began to revert toward old tactics. And he began taking CARON BUTLER with him. Thank goodness HAYWOOD remained steady, and kept 'DRAY's head in the game-plan for the most part.

But as the turnovers mounted and the assists dwindled in the second half, the SAUNDERS game-plan unravelled into failed iso drives and rim-clanging outside three's as these ineffective moves by the backcourt replaced ball-movement, all of which the HEAT were obviously waiting for.

On defense, I was screaming rotate, even as CHENIER was saying the same in polite words to BUCKHANTZ. By game's end all pretense of perimeter defense was abandoned by everyone on the floor. Blocks disappeared along with any chance to win.

The word is out on ARENAS. He's not the player who can take over a game anymore. Unfortunately he doesn't know it, and his play last night in the second half was closer to NICK YOUNG's awfulense and defense than BRENDAN's supurb game.

I'm aware that I saw too much to like in BRENDAN's, 'DRAY's and McGUIRE's games and too much to hate in ARENAS" and BUTLER's. And it was good to finally see the beginnings of life in DeSHAWN's, especially on defense.

ARENAS surely and maybe BUTLER also should be dealt, then a new game instituted in the WIZARDS backcourt featuring a real point guard (CRITTER is the closest we have right now). Outlandish, but I've said it before here, and ARENAS rubber-stamped it last night, his style of play when he goes rogue free-lance is a cancer to good play on this team.

If FLIP can get him to play the shoot when open, assist, move without the ball, man-up D, rotate when necessary in help defense, like he did in the first quarter of last night's game, the WIZ could win a lot of games. The question is, like last night, will he? The answer lies in his ego, and the fact that old habits - bad ones - are hard to break.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 11, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Young players not knowing assignments is just too common to hear around here. At some point it becomes an excuse. To an extent the Wizards are another team with either coaches or GM's determined to show their worth by being a "Contender" (LOL) therefore accepting mediocrity and refusing to consider developing a powerhouse.
"Javale only plays well in spurts" Thats all he is on the court for.
How can one team get so many slow developing players?

Posted by: millineumman | November 11, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the Ernie is the greatest GM of the world fans?

Let's see his draft picks can't even get off the bench when everyone is hurt?

Okay AB is a decent backup. That's one pick...ohhh I forgot there's Michael Redd too.

What a resume...can't get out of the first round...drafted two guys in the second round...resigned a guy who was hurt for two years...and never won a world championship


Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 11, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Mike Jones reports Wiz are interested in Earl Boykins. May be a good fit for now. Perhaps AD will come back as well.

Posted by: t-train | November 11, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I have a big problem with the way Caron Butler played last night. Totally selfish. The ball stop moving when he gets his hand on it. Blatche was playing good ball why did they stop going to him and Brendan? The Wiz owned the paint last night. McGuire played great D-fense on Wade for the 30sec of time he was given. Can't wait for our floor general to come back and bring some stability to this team. That's Antawn Jamison for those who don't know. It seems that he this guy that keeps this team focus on the floor. Just slow down with the 3pt attempts.

Posted by: lemekdivine | November 11, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to see him on the court more too, but I've noticed now and again guys motioning for him to "move here, run over and set a screen there, defend that area" when he's on the court. So maybe he doesn't have firm grasp of all his assignments in their O/D sets. Just a guess. He's still pretty raw.

Posted by: ArmChairQB | November 11, 2009 11:34 AM

If that is true I wonder why that is the case. He's had the same time in this system as everyone else and isn't communication on the floor a good thing. I would be concerned if he wasn't being told what to do. Even at that though, I think he is an intelligent player and not knowing what to do on floor isn't his problem.

Highly talented players ought just to be let go. Mistakes they will make, but the upside might just always outweigh the mistakes along the way especially if that talent is superior.

I saw Michael Beasley make several mistakes last night and I am sure he made a ton of mistakes thoughout his career till now. At the end of the game though it was his good plays that hurt us, not his mistakes.

Why does the Washington Wizards always have to be the Team to bench young players for making mistakes or not knowing there assignments rather than letting them learn by playing through them so that there positives shine through.

If we don't let them play, then we can always point to there mistakes while they are on the bench. The only way we can point to there positives is to let them play.

They are plenty of Teams in the NBA that let there rookies and young inexperienced play through their mistakes. I wish this Team was one of them.

It is not like we are winning by keeping them off the floor.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 11, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

There are plenty of Teams in the NBA that let their rookies and young inexperienced players play through their mistakes. I wish this Team was one of them.

It is not like we are winning by keeping them off the floor.

LarryInClintonMD.

At some point not letting players play because of there perceived inadequacies is only an excuse for loosing. The Washington Wizards need to get rid of this handicap and figure how to use there inexperienced young players, even Nick Young.

If the Vets can have horrendous performances, then it is an moronic to keep young players on the bench so that they won't make mistakes.

It sends the wrong message to the Team.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 11, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Larry: It is not like we are winning by keeping them off the floor

Its the perception that we will win with those that are already on the floor.

How's that working out?

Posted by: original2cents | November 11, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Because our vets don't have multiple turnovers, shoot too early in the shot clock while being defended, not rotate on defense, not call out picks or do your best to get through them!
We are fortunate that only the young players do that.

Posted by: millineumman | November 11, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Larry: It is not like we are winning by keeping them off the floor

Its the perception that we will win with those that are already on the floor.

How's that working out?

Posted by: original2cents | November 11, 2009 12:38 PM

I guess it is working out real good from the Wizards perspective. Why else do they keep doing it? Go figure.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 11, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The problem is Arenas. You can't have your offense go through a guy who is playing so poorly and expect to be any better than 2-6. In the season opener against Dallas Arenas looked like the "old", pre-injury superstar. Seven games later he looks like an "old" Arenas; a guy who doesn't seem to have the energy to "bring it" much beyond the 1st quarter. Most likely he's suffering from a lack of concentration, a conditioning problem or some undiagnosed physical malady. He either needs medical attention or some attitude adjustment applied by Mr. Saunders.

Posted by: phil27 | November 11, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I tend to believe if more players were playing better, Gil would not force and try to take over as much.
Actually, whom should Gil be deferring to?

Posted by: millineumman | November 11, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Following the Wizards over the last few years has been like triaging a slow moving train wreck. Injuries are us.

The current varied sprains and dislocations to key players explains a lot about Arenas and Butler forcing shots and looking selfish or just plain bad.

Haywood has been effective but has llmited offensive abilities, Blatche is the only other legitimate threat but isn't entirely consistent. Butler and Arenas, the last two reliable offensive options have probably concluded there is little point in passing to Oberto, Stevenson and McGuire.

Until Jamison and Miller return, defenses can key on Arenas and Butler and they will continue to struggle.

Posted by: midlevex | November 11, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

LarryInClintonMD

Good points.

You have to balance getting the young'ns experience with winning the game at hand. Risk versus reward. I don't know why JM didn't play. I'm only going by what I perceive to be the problem. For all I know, McGee might be the brightest guy on the team and know the playbook better than Flip AND his mama (forgive me). BUT Flip isn't going by perceptions. He made his decision based on his own personal evaluation and neither of us is privy to that. Sure, it would have been interesting to see if JM could run up and down the court with a rapidly-fading Jermaine O'Neal in pursuit, but Flip trusts the guys in front of McGee more and that's why they played, IMO. This is the first or second DNP-CD for him this year but he has gotten some PT this year and he'll get more.
Now if he's still not playing when/if the Wiz are out of contention or if BH, FO and AB are stinking up the joint, that's a different story altogether. It's all about how the guys in front of him at his position are playing.

Posted by: ArmChairQB | November 11, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Before the season started almost everyone was saying Javale wouldn't get any PT. He has. And he will again. He's not going to get big minutes every game, but he'll continue to get floor time as the season goes on. It's not like him not playing is the reason the lost the last couple off games, so there's really no point in making a stink over it. They've got bigger concerns.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 11, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I love all the Caron bashing,yeah trade him................ to Philly where he can flourish, he was not sefish last night; damn they only got three shooters when Caron,Gil, and Brendan are out there and Gil was cold and turnover prone(again!!) so what was Caron suppose to do? with Foye,Miller, and Antawn hurt do you want DeBrick and Oberto shooting? don't think opponents don't know that,they swarm Gil if he drives the lane and he promptly turns it over, lets see what happens when this team is healthy. So far the biggest disapointment is "LA Smooth" aka NY,second is Flip for not giving McGuire and McGee minutes, we bashed EJ for not doing the same with the youngin's so wake up Flip!!

Posted by: dargregmag | November 11, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

"damn they only got three shooters when Caron,Gil, and Brendan are out there"

Haywood is not a shooter. The fact that he sometimes seems to think he is isn't helping their offensive continuity.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 11, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"we bashed EJ for not doing the same with the youngin's"

And you were wrong then too.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 11, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

With our current lack of shooters to put on the floor, why not go way up-tempo and get some javale some minutes? Having a 7 footer run the floor every possession is a matchup nightmare for most teams, AB can also run, and Arenas loves to push it.

Point being, what we're doing isnt working at all, time for some coaching flexibility.

Posted by: divi3 | November 11, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"I saw Michael Beasley make several mistakes last night and I am sure he made a ton of mistakes thoughout his career till now. At the end of the game though it was his good plays that hurt us, not his mistakes."

Which is fine when you're talking about a guy who makes more good plays than mistakes. But that doesn't apply to Young or McGee right now, which explains why he was drafted #2 overall and Young and McGee were taken at 17 and 18.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 11, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"Highly talented players ought just to be let go. Mistakes they will make, but the upside might just always outweigh the mistakes along the way especially if that talent is superior."

Problem there is that, contrary to what some want so desperately to believe, Nick Young's talent isn't superior.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 11, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I tend to believe if more players were playing better, Gil would not force and try to take over as much.
Actually, whom should Gil be deferring to?

Posted by: millineumman | November 11, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I tend to believe that if more players played better we would be watching a team that was not the Wizards.

Blatche is doing fine. I'd like to see Mcgee let loose for 17-ish minutes a game. get him the last 2-3 to finish off the first quarter maybe 5 in the middle of the 2nd and then have him do a nice stretch of 8-10 in the thrid/fourth.

If he's playing well, let him stay a bit longer. If brendan is fould free and tearing it up, let him ride the pine a few more. But let him play and learn. By accident he gets 5 boards, 2 blocks and 8 pts. Of course there is also the 4 fouls, the missed assignments that results in opposing teams pts and the blown pass reception.

However, I think those would start dwindling if he got some real, solid PT.

Nick Young on the other hand...

Posted by: Blurred | November 11, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Since we are 2 and 6, hindsight says we should have been playing our bench more. Problem is, if we had played them and were 2-6, everyone would be clamoring about how we eff-ed it all up by letting our bench play.

Lets get Miller and Jamison back and see what happens then. Miller was the energy on this team and that is OBVIOUSLY missing. Jamison is as consistant a player as there is in the NBA...20 pts, 8 boards, 3 assists and little D. If Miller and haywood can help on the D, we should get back to .500 fairly quickly (like by Jan).

Take advantage of the rest and come out gunning.

Posted by: Blurred | November 11, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

McGee has played so sparingly it's tough to say whether he makes more good or bad plays right now. I do think he will get more PT as the season progresses though. He's a freakish athlete for his height, that type of guy finds his way onto the floor- the potential screams too loudly to be ignored.

NY is another story entirely and will need to make the most of the minutes he's about to get with Foye possibly hindered


Posted by: divi3 | November 11, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

After last night, we should all be able to agree on one thing: Gilbert Arenas is NOT a point guard and he never will be. The turnover train will keep rolling as long as he is the primary ballhandler. Ernie G is a good basketball man and he must see this by now.

As our opponents ratchet up the defensive pressure (usually in the 4th), it gets increasingly painful to watch the Wiz run their offense.

It's time, Ernie. It's time to acquire a TRUE NBA POINT GUARD to run this team. Gilbert can be an all-star playing off the ball, and you know what? It will extend his career.

Posted by: hokieman1979 | November 11, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh by the way, assuming my mind meld with Ernie G is successful, anyone have any ideas on a PG we could acquire..... SOON? Who's out there that could be brought in to save this season?

Posted by: hokieman1979 | November 11, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I think it is agreed that we need Jamison, Miller and Foye back and I acknowledge that it is early and we can turn it around. I also think that the cry for developing players is because these guys are always getting hurt! At some point you move on. Even replacing an often injured if neccesary (when you can).

And some of us hear about mistake this and mistake that and just go along with whatever we hear. If your basketball eye is that good then call out these so called bad plays.

Posted by: millineumman | November 11, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

hokieman1979:

Can't see much for this year with the cap problems the WIZ have. Just no room to manouver.

RAY FELTON of the BOBCATS at 5.5 mill/FA next year is a good bet. Solid, good assist man. Move GIL to the #2 slot, give the BOBCATS a potential lottery pick with the 'ZARDS #1 in 2010, throw in NICK YOUNG's 2.6 million 2010 salary. Bring CRITTENTON back from the doghouse and sign him to a 1.5 million deal for three. He's the one EG wanted anyway in the AD trade. Match FOYE's 2010 best league offer. So then you have FELTON on point with CRITTENTON, FOYE and ARENAS as back-ups. ARENAS, STEVENSON, and FOYE at #2.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 11, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"McGee has played so sparingly it's tough to say whether he makes more good or bad plays right now."

Not really. He still makes the occasional highlight real dunk or block, and his overall court awareness has seemed to improve somewhat, but he's still too often out of position on both ends of the floor with no idea where he's supposed to be. But at least he's shown signs of learning, which cannot be said about Young at this point.

There isn't a PG out there to be had who's going to make a bit of difference. We had this same discussion at the beginning of last season when Arenas went down. We ended up with that guy we signed out of training camp whose name I can't even remember and Juan Dixon.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 11, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

millneumman

Score tied. 4:36 to play. ARENAS drives iso, three men collapse on him, turnover, WADE the other way for a dunk. End of game. The HEAT were collectively waiting for ARENAS to lose his cool and take it upon himself to win the game. And it occurred several times earlier. They just wait for GIL to drive, and it's a set play by the opposition. It's his mantra, but he's not his old self, and it ain't happenin'. Anything good that is.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 11, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

millneumman

Score tied. 4:36 to play. ARENAS drives iso, three men collapse on him, turnover, WADE the other way for a dunk. End of game. The HEAT were collectively waiting for ARENAS to lose his cool and take it upon himself to win the game. And it occurred several times earlier. They just wait for GIL to drive, and it's a set play by the opposition. It's his mantra, but he's not his old self, and it ain't happenin'. Anything good that is.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 11, 2009 4:18 PM
No, I understand. I have said a few times that all of our players make plenty of mistakes or bad plays. I really meant that we have a tendancy to scapegoat young players (specifically Javale). I think some of our posters assume they know all the plays and defensive sets.
i just cannot identify if his screw ups are that major versus that he makes good things happen instantly.
It seems like he is the type of player that eventually we get beat by and wish we had.

Posted by: millineumman | November 11, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Well I can't give a better example of a specific play that cost us the last game. From your response, I guess that's not what you meant. I'm not talking about young players. If young players were the total problem, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The problem lies with the ones who are veterans. JaVale will be a fine player for us. He's dedicated and willing with loads of talent, but he's not yet found his niche. He certainly is not capable of starting in place of BLATCHE or HAYWOOD. So, what's your point? SHAQ took him to the woodshed in CLEVELAND. He can't handle the post. Athletically his build just won't stand up to that type of play.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 11, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

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