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Wizards (3-8) at Spurs (4-6)

Wizards starters: Gilbert Arenas, Mike Miller, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Brendan Haywood

Spurs: Tony Parker, Keith Bogans, Richard Jefferson, Tim Duncan, Antonio McDyess

Line: Spurs by 7.5.

Back in San Antonio, where he spent his first four years in the NBA, Fabricio Oberto also returned to the Wizards after missing the past two games with a sore left hamstring. To make room for Oberto, Nick Young was moved to the inactive list (That might not sound like a big deal, but Young was the only player to all 82 games during that injury-riddled, 19-63 campaign last season).

Oberto used his short time at the AT&T Center to catch with some former teammates and other members of the Spurs' staff. He also spent time in the visiting team locker room for the first time. Oberto said that he wouldn't get too caught up the emotion on Saturday.

"It's weird because I know all the players. We got good relations. That's the thing," Oberto said. "When we start the game, I will cheer and play as hard as I can for my team. After the game, we can talk and catch up on old times."

The Spurs dealt Oberto last summer in a three-team trade with Milwaukee and Detroit that landed swingman Richard Jefferson. The Pistons later waived him and the Wizards signed him as a free agent. Although the Spurs had to make the move to improve, Spurs Coach Gregg Popovich said Oberto is still missed.

"A lot, and my wife misses him more than I do," Popovich said. "He's one of those guys you're around and you know he's going to heaven and you're going to hell. I don't know what to say aside fom that. He's just a great human being. He's just somebody everybody falls in love with. Everybody enjoys being around him. He's so kind to everybody you just miss seeing him."

Oberto carries his relationships in San Antonio every time he steps on the floor. With Andray Blatche wearing the No. 7 Oberto wore with the Spurs and in Olympic and European play, the 6-foot-10 reserve chose to wear the No. 21 because of Tim Duncan.

"Yep. One of the reasons," Oberto said. "He was laughing the day I told him. we have a good relationship. We spent a lot of time together."

He said it would be fun to match up with Duncan after battling him so many times in practice. "He's one of my favorite players. when I'm playing against him, it's always great," he said. "I think he's one of the greatest players at his position, ever."

Oberto admits that he still misses San Antonio, but won't waste time looking back on the championship he won with the Spurs in 1997.

"I look backwards the day I'm done with basketball," Oberto said. "Right now, I'm trying to look ahead. We have a lot of things to improve with our team. The main thing is to try and use all that experience, from when I played on Europe and on the national team."

Popovich said he knew that Oberto would quickly find a landing spot.

"Sure. He's too much of a pro not to," Popovich said. "He's doing a hell of a job for them."

Mike Miller played on Saturday after hurting his left shoulder on Friday in Oklahoma City. Coach Flip Saunders said he will continue to play Miller as long as Miller can play. "They just tell me what he can do and can't do," Saunders said of the team medical staff and trainers. "Mow and then, he gets it jarred a little bit and it's a little sore. I hope he'll be able to fight through that."

By Michael Lee  |  November 21, 2009; 8:31 PM ET
 
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Comments

Different game same results. GA blows defensive assignments, Butler misses 2 wide open shots and commits a stupid turnover, still no continuity on offense. Sigh!

13-0 run SA. I might have to start watching these games until they turn into some semblance of a professional team. They are getting killed by Finley 35, McDyess 30+, Duncan 30+, and Parker. Not just execution, but hustle and beat to the basket. Pathetic!

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

ed: stop watching

3/4 games into the Boykins experiment and I'm about done. He dribbles himself into trouble, gets shots blocked like crazy, turns the ball over, and can't do anything on defense. Where is that moron that suggested starting him? lol...NBA TV guy says that

What would really be nice is would be to get Critter back. He has really missed a great opportunity for his career.

CB another stupid turnover. Cost himself a dunk or layup and the team a chance to cut to the lead to 3. He is rapidly becoming my least favorite player on the team. Maybe there are poisons in those stupid straws he chews that are affecting his brain.

GA leads the team in scoring at half while shooting 4/12 of course.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

rphilli721

Stop holding back and tell us how you really feel.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 21, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Spurs 18 ast and 3 to

Wizs 6 ast and 6 to

What's up with Millers leg?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 21, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Blind followers, what is your excuse today?

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, rphilli721: tells us how great Flip is how smart Ernie is or was and how much you're blaming everything on Caron,Gil, and everyone else, the truth is the team hasn't been the same since EJ was fired truth be told they could always fall back on EJ's system when all else failed players knew their role maybe except for the Serial Skirt Chaser(Blatche) who still refuses to play inside and jacks up jumpers against inferior opposition and disappears in the clutch against the better teams(but complained about EJ to Ernie ad nauseum) Flip's system and his rotation are lacking so far because he sits Gilbert at the beginning of the 4th until mid quater and the veterans don't seem to be comfortable with the system Flip has installed the coaching staff is a joke i mean seriously who's listening to Sam Cassell? EJ's staff was respected and smart i mean how else did they get to the playoff's without Gil and a sorry bench sans Roger Mason, like i said they are going to rue the day they fired EJ.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 21, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

25 games, dargreg.

Posted by: and_1 | November 21, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

@Dargreg,

I can't even read your post bc it gives me a headache. Ever heard of complete sentences? I think you are blabbing about EJ blah blah blah...who cares.

Game over start of 4th. Put the damn end of bench in the game. I see McGee finally got mins and immediately blocked a drive by Parker. He could have had 5/6 of those last night.

This team needs to decide whether it wants to put in the effort to become a good team or not. I see frustration and lack of effort right now.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

@Dargreg,

I can't even read your post bc it gives me a headache. Ever heard of complete sentences? I think you are blabbing about EJ blah blah blah...who cares.

Game over start of 4th. Put the damn end of bench in the game. I see McGee finally got mins and immediately blocked a drive by Parker. He could have had 5/6 of those last night.

This team needs to decide whether it wants to put in the effort to become a good team or not. I see frustration and lack of effort right now.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

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There goes blind follower # 1.
Care to talk about how this roster was built? Care to talk about giving a severely injured player a $111 million contract? Care to bring up the horrific drafting of NY and Pecherov? How about letting a strong contributor in Mason walk? How about turning down a trade bringing in Stoudemire for Butler?
This team, as presently constructed will not go very far, it's not really about strategies.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

No offense, no defense, pathetic! This team is shooting blanks, 30% from the field, and Big 3 couldn't make free throws (combined for 9 for 16 so far, 56%). In the 2nd half, they continue to leave Roger Mason wide open for 3 pt shots, alleviating his shooting woes.

I am willing to hold off judgement until the 20-game mark. But that is fast approaching, and the team would need to win next 7 out of 8 to be 50%, or 6 out of 8 to be 45%!

Posted by: sagaliba | November 21, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

@and_1,

Funny.

I will say that is true. Or the end of december. But, this team is digging itself a deeper hole with not many good signs surfacing.

What does it say about NY that a 30 point blow out and he still can't get in the game? Wow, there is the doghouse and then there is the outhouse.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

The team is in trouble. No chemistry, no urgency and no relief in sight.

I've been as tough on Nick as anyone, I'm surprised DS, the vet, is on the court and no NY in garbage time. Doesn't speak well of the relationship between Flip and Nick.

Posted by: and_1 | November 21, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I think the basketball gods are trying to tell Miller to shut it down. The guy can't stay on the court lately.


Posted by: and_1 | November 21, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

The team is in trouble. No chemistry, no urgency and no relief in sight.

I've been as tough on Nick as anyone, I'm surprised DS, the vet, is on the court and no NY in garbage time. Doesn't speak well of the relationship between Flip and Nick.

Posted by: and_1 | November 21, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

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NY was inactive tonight.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Nick Young was inactive tonight. Flip felt that Fabricio Oberto would be a good defender on Tim Duncan.

Posted by: elfreako | November 21, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

@Utilityman,

Care to shut up and stop repeating yourself!

In case you don't remember this team as currently constructed was leading the conference at the all-star break a few seasons ago. The current team is much deeper than that one, so it's very easy to see why this team should/could/would be successful. Except geniuses like yourself who know everything and use every opportunity (loss) to spout your nonsense. Where were you after the Cavs game Mr. Fairweather? Guess that game didn't fit into your negative bias.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Arenas, Jamison: -23
Haywood: -22
Butler: -20

Total Assists: 12

Posted by: and_1 | November 21, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Offense anyone?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 21, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Can I get a "B?"

BBBBBBLOWOUT!!!!

The team is basically healthy....

Don't blame the loss due to Eminem being gone. He's a new guy on the team.

Les BouleS still have a starting 5 with 3 all stars.

Even if you used the excuse that it's a new system, or people are tired, or the plane arrived late, or the beds were not soft enough, or the 2 hour time change affected their routine, or the bus came late, or the gym was too hot, it should not could not would not shall not result in the Spurs running up the blowout by 30 pts!!!!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

vomit-worthy.

Posted by: thickman22 | November 21, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards record since EJ was fired 22 wins and 72 loses,is that a complete enough sentence for you RPhilli721!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 21, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Spurs 59 rebs 32 ast 46.5 fg % 47.6 3pt%

Wizs 44 rebs 12 ast 33.3 fg % 21.1 3pt%

The Wizards get blown out by a bunch of kids last night and by a bunch of old men tonight.

rphilli721

Just because they beat the Cavs once doesn't mean the Wizards are a good team.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 21, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

MeShawn way over his back issues.

MeShawn still ice cold from the field.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

So, when is Crit due back?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 21, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

@Utilityman,

Care to shut up and stop repeating yourself!

In case you don't remember this team as currently constructed was leading the conference at the all-star break a few seasons ago. The current team is much deeper than that one, so it's very easy to see why this team should/could/would be successful. Except geniuses like yourself who know everything and use every opportunity (loss) to spout your nonsense. Where were you after the Cavs game Mr. Fairweather? Guess that game didn't fit into your negative bias.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

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A few seasons ago, Detroit was one of the best teams in the league. I am far from being a fairweather guy, I have said it all along, this team, as presently constructed will not win much. Yes, they will have sporadic wins once in a while (enough to keep you interested) but there are too many holes, which you fail to acknowledge.
I am a long time Wizards fan and I, like you, want them to win, but I, unlike you, am not a blind follower and am realistic about the team chances.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Eminem misses 3/4 of the game.

Manu Ginobli misses the entire game.

Who's more important to their team?

Of course Manu Ginobli.

Still a Spurs blowout.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

No offense. No defense. No clue. I counted AT LEAST five CONSECUTIVE trips down court in the fourth quarter where the point guard who brought the ball up shot it, without a pass! Not one pass in at least five consecutive trips down court! Low IQ? Or No IQ?

Posted by: bpybay | November 21, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

I hope we don't play New Jersey anytime soon.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 21, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Have been a supporter and a defender of GA, no more.
Between GA and Cb enough is enough.
Their passive (understatement) defense and general indifference,with those bloated contracts is a total embarrassment.
It is time if possible to clean house and go totally young.Forgetabout waiting for a number more games. The handwriting is on the wall.
Good bye if possible DS GA CB,should still have some value,but we are going nowhere with them, ever!!!
It is not FS fault, he is light years better than EJ, who was arrogant and all about EJ,good riddance.
No these problems are personnel caused.
The future is quick, athletic and strong and talented. This roster is devoid of all these attributes.
No strong men,or fast and agile,other than some of the youngins, but their skill levels are yet to be determined.
It is time for the house cleaning to commence...

Posted by: mricklen | November 21, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

@Utility,

What are you smoking? To call me a blind follower is plain stupid and makes me believe you can't read. I've got plenty of criticisms. One of them is not EG who is one of the better GM's this franchise has ever had, and to cherry pick moves that he has made is disingenuous. He has done a fine job and if things don't work out you start over. In this league you need some luck and/or those transcendent players to win it all, the Wiz have neither through no fault of EG. If/when, he blows a lottery pick or major trade, come talk to me. Winning franchises and traditions are built upon stability. Something this organization needs to maintain or they quickly become the Redskins or worse.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I've never seen this stat before, but can someone dig it up that shows which teams have the highest salaried starting 5 in the league?

Les BouleS have to be up there.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards record since EJ was fired 22 wins and 72 loses,is that a complete enough sentence for you RPhilli721!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 21, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

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You would be so dumb and illogical as to presume the reason for the record since his firing was his missed coaching. What a joke! We all know the reason for last year's record. Well, most do except you perhaps. By the way, how's Philly doing with his genius onboard? Oh, yeah, 5-8.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards record since EJ was fired 22 wins and 72 loses,is that a complete enough sentence for you RPhilli721!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 21, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

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You would be so dumb and illogical as to presume the reason for the record since his firing was his missed coaching. What a joke! We all know the reason for last year's record. Well, most do except you perhaps. By the way, how's Philly doing with his genius onboard? Oh, yeah, 5-8.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

@Utility,

What are you smoking? To call me a blind follower is plain stupid and makes me believe you can't read. I've got plenty of criticisms. One of them is not EG who is one of the better GM's this franchise has ever had, and to cherry pick moves that he has made is disingenuous. He has done a fine job and if things don't work out you start over. In this league you need some luck and/or those transcendent players to win it all, the Wiz have neither through no fault of EG. If/when, he blows a lottery pick or major trade, come talk to me. Winning franchises and traditions are built upon stability. Something this organization needs to maintain or they quickly become the Redskins or worse.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

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I disagree with you. He has put the team in a position where you can't just start over as you stated. He has committed millions and years to mediocre "stars" and I have always questioned these moves. No GM in his right mind would have signed a severely injured GA to an extremely lucrative contract or would have turned down a trade for Stoudemire.
Start over? Easier said than done as most of the so called stars are almost untradable unless you want junk in return.
This is exactly what happened when we committed to Juwan Howard. With a strict cap, moves like these have the potential to handicap a franchise for years.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

It may or may not be too early in the season yet to cast serious judgment on the team, but it's clear now that the blame falls on EG.

Look at his entire body of work with his draft picks, his FA signings, his tolerance of the inept medical staff, his BS....everything...

I wonder why there's not more heat on his arse.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

It may or may not be too early in the season yet to cast serious judgment on the team, but it's clear now that the blame falls on EG.

Look at his entire body of work with his draft picks, his FA signings, his tolerance of the inept medical staff, his BS....everything...

I wonder why there's not more heat on his arse.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

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Why wonder? There is never any heat on anyone within this organization. It has the highest tolerance for mediocrity in probably all sport franchises. The owners' goal is strictly to make money. Remember, this is the same owner that kept Wes Unseld for years. EG looks like a genius compared to Wes.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

"With a record of 587-396 entering the 2009-10 season, his .597 winning percentage (seventh among active coaches) is topped only by Phil Jackson (.746), Pat Riley (.722), Don Nelson (.611) and Jerry Sloan (.600) among all-time NBA coaches in their first 13 seasons, and ranks seventh-best all-time among coaches with at least 900 games at the helm. Saunders has seven 50-win seasons to his credit as an NBA head coach, and with four Conference Finals appearances in 11 postseason appearances, he defines what it means to be playoff-tested." - NBA.com

Here you go Dargreg. This is Flips Saunders record. Compare that to EJ's one second round playoff appearance and career winning percentage of...wait for it...a whopping 44%. End of debate. There is nothing to debate here other than whether you can read or not.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"Why wonder? There is never any heat on anyone within this organization. It has the highest tolerance for mediocrity in probably all sport franchises. The owners' goal is strictly to make money. Remember, this is the same owner that kept Wes Unseld for years. EG looks like a genius compared to Wes.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse "

Well, back in the day Abe could continue to lose and still collect his lux tax welfare.

That welfare check is gone now, since they are over the cap....right?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"A few seasons ago, Detroit was one of the best teams in the league."

Now there is a bright comment. Major difference being Detroit has completely different players now and the Wizards core is still intact with added depth.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, back in the day Abe could continue to lose and still collect his lux tax welfare.

That welfare check is gone now, since they are over the cap....right?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse
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I don't believe they are over the cap. We were going to be had we signed a second round pick and that's why he sold it.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

"Just because they beat the Cavs once doesn't mean the Wizards are a good team."

Again, do you guys have reading comprehension skills? Never said that, the Wizards are obviously not a very good team at the moment. I simply pointed out how quiet the "haters" were after that game compared to the last two.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Now there is a bright comment. Major difference being Detroit has completely different players now and the Wizards core is still intact with added depth.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

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Stop cherry picking my statements. I was saying that things change, yes the Pistons are different now but so are the Wizards in a way. GA didn't have 2 major surgeries, Butler was in his prime....
Bottom line, EG made a string of questionable moves and draft picks and this team is going nowhere as presently constructed. So live with it, stop coming up with excuses, shallow strategies and accept the reality!

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

"I hope we don't play New Jersey anytime soon."

Now that made me laugh. Although we managed to blow them out already this season.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Another stand around and watch while GILBERT gets stuffed trying to penetrate, or while he's clanging attempted three's. Boy, if anyone's wondering what's wrong, think about who was playing hurt, and left the game not to return near the end of the first quarter. Boy, do they suck without MILLER.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 21, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

"I don't believe they are over the cap. We were going to be had we signed a second round pick and that's why he sold it.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse "

Well, it sounds like Abe's gonna have to throw some more singles and family events and sell more dogs in order to pay off those big salaries/operating costs.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

"Boy, do they suck without MILLER.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 21, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse "

Wait, I thought the return of Gilby and BTH.....and then MeTawn.....they were supposed to be the cavalry.

No?

Blown out a few days ago by a lottery OK team, and now blown out by a Spurs team minus Manu.

Equal opportunity blowouts by both good and bad teams.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Another stand around and watch while GILBERT gets stuffed trying to penetrate, or while he's clanging attempted three's. Boy, if anyone's wondering what's wrong, think about who was playing hurt, and left the game not to return near the end of the first quarter. Boy, do they suck without MILLER.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 21, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

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LMAO. So are you saying they have been playing great with Miller? Yes, Miller is a fine player but the team as a WHOLE, is going nowhere and has very inflexible mobility because of dubious long term contracts.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Five guys on defense, five guys on offense. Did the LIZARDS have more assists than turnovers? With four to go in the game I think, they had nine assists, eight turnovers. And how many did SAN ANTONE have, 21 or 30? DAMM. Seemed like 100. They just want to play and win. SOME of the WIZ just wnat to pad stats and show up to collect their paychecks.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 21, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

"I don't believe they are over the cap. We were going to be had we signed a second round pick and that's why he sold it.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse "

Well, it sounds like Abe's gonna have to throw some more singles and family events and sell more dogs in order to pay off those big salaries/operating costs.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 21, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

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LOL

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 21, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Thanks brainiac. Wow, there's a thunderbolt. Been saying that here and elsewhere since GILBERT uttered his ultimatum about JAMISON.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 21, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I've more than accepted reality. I just don't go off the deep end as you and your cohorts tend to do. Cherry picking kind of sucks doesn't it, the same thing you're doing to EG.

By the way, Sacramento and GS were after Arenas....so, again, you are incorrect.

Butler is 30 now...is that not still "prime" for most athletes? After all, he is not an NFL running back. Something is wrong with his game at the moment, but him being past his prime is not it.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Chew on this:

Spurs:BouleS

FG 47%:33%
3Pt 48%:21%
Rebs 59:44
Assists 32:12
Personal Fouls 22:12

Les BouleS aren't even trying, or they are just that inept!!!!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 22, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

What's your point DCMAN? It was a blowout. Should those numbers have been any different in a blowout? I think your point is to revel in negativity as you always do. Your like a bad rash that just will never go away.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 22, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I've more than accepted reality. I just don't go off the deep end as you and your cohorts tend to do. Cherry picking kind of sucks doesn't it, the same thing you're doing to EG.

By the way, Sacramento and GS were after Arenas....so, again, you are incorrect.

Butler is 30 now...is that not still "prime" for most athletes? After all, he is not an NFL running back. Something is wrong with his game at the moment, but him being past his prime is not it.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 21, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

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Sacramento and GS?? Wow, 2 powerhouses!! So, just because they wanted him means we had to get stuck with him for 6 years? EG made some nice moves, I won't disagree with that but most of his moves have been dubious and will be handicapping this franchise for years.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | November 22, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

What would really be nice is would be to get Critter back. He has really missed a great opportunity for his career.

What's worse, he's in EG's dog-house. Not a good place to be. If he stays on this team, he's gonna' have to play like gang-busters when he gets in.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 22, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

"What's your point DCMAN? It was a blowout. Should those numbers have been any different in a blowout? I think your point is to revel in negativity as you always do. Your like a bad rash that just will never go away.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 22, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse "

Wake up.

This shouldn't have been a blowout!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 22, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

"What would really be nice is would be to get Critter back. He has really missed a great opportunity for his career.

What's worse, he's in EG's dog-house. Not a good place to be. If he stays on this team, he's gonna' have to play like gang-busters when he gets in.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 22, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse "

What does having Critter back have to do with anything?

First off, they already have Gilby/Boykins/Foye to man the 1.

What the heck could Critter provide? He's not a scorer.

Is that the latest excuse? If it is, then it's a whole new depth we're going to now.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 22, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

"Sacramento and GS?? Wow, 2 powerhouses!! So, just because they wanted him means we had to get stuck with him for 6 years? EG made some nice moves, I won't disagree with that but most of his moves have been dubious and will be handicapping this franchise for years."

What on god's earth does the quality of teams that wanted to offer GA big money have to do with the fact that he was in fact being pursued by other teams? I think the only point there is you're using obfuscation to cloud the point bc your facts are wrong.

Was Caron for Kwame dubious?
Was Miller and Foye for what was supposed to be Ricky Rubio dubious?
Was signing GA initially dubious?
Was drafting McGee where he did dubious?
Was drafting Blatche where he did dubious?
Was signing a 20/10 guy for 40 million dubious?
Was picking up a nice PG with potential in Critter last year dubious?
Was hiring FS as coach dubious?
Was letting Jarred Jeffries walk dubious?
Was his initial reaction to low ball Hughes with him eventually walking away dubious (I didn't like that move at the time)?
Was signing DS for less than a million his first year dubious?
Was signing and giving Roger Mason a chance to play in the NBA dubious?
Was drafting McGure where he did dubious?
Was even drafting Young where he did dubious?

You see there is a lot to like. And a lot of very sound to great decisions he's made as opposed to constantly idiotic moves from previous GM's. So, be careful what you wish for bc you might not like it. Hell, I was against signing Arenas for what amounted to a max contract for all the obvious reasons, but I've accepted it and hope the best still comes from it. Also, there are many of the opinion that there weren't many other options out there except to completely scrap what he was building and start all over again. Of course, then you and others like you would be railing against that and subsequent decisions. You think we could have pulled off a sign and trade to significantly improved the team??

Frankly, the team just needs some luck. Whether it be with injuries, players jelling at the right time, or having a real crapper of a season when there is a transcendent player in the draft. Of course, we all know we would lose the ping pong balls that year or when we do finally win our choice is Kwame Brown or Tyson Chandler.

EG is doing a find job against a lot of obstacles.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 22, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

"Wake up.

This shouldn't have been a blowout!"

Ah, ok. That's profound. So listing the stats in a blowout is your way of saying it shouldn't have been a blowout. Nah. It's you gloating in your own negative misery, although I do agree that it should not have been a blowout. I also don't think with our talent that we should be 3-9. It just is at the moment.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 22, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

I hope the Wizards make the playoffs, but I just can't stop thinking about who will be available for the 2010 lottery, and what blockbuster trades Grunfield could come up with.

Posted by: Theone9 | November 22, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

People lets get real with this team, even with the addition of Fo, mil, and Obie from mayberry, this team is basiclly the same as 3,4 years ago, did rest of the league stand still and not get any better, this team is not compatible, to many mismatch pieces. GA is not going to turn back the clock what you see now is what he is and will be, metwain is a selfish one on one player only concern with his stats, CB is a off the bench only player who's career is on the down side, Miller has never played a whole season without missing alot of games consistantly hurt, starting or even playing Obie from mayberry is just stupid especially when you have a young stud willing to add energy and hustle and defense plus scoring he can play the forward position if giving the chance. This team is not going to win as I stated early before the season started that this team is old slow lacking basketball intel.

Posted by: getagripped | November 22, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

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