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Wizards (10-17) at Timberwolves (6-24), Catching up with Pecherov

Wizards starters: Gilbert Arenas, Randy Foye, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Brendan Haywood

Timberwolves: Jonny Flynn, Corey Brewer, Damien Wilkins, Kevin Love, Al Jefferson

Line: Wizards by 3

A lot has been made about the current Wizards and former Timberwolves returning to Minnesota tonight, but there actually is a former Wizard now plying his trade with the Timberwolves. And if you were wondering, Oleksiy Pecherov still gets buckets, son.

"You see against Boston, right?" Pecherov said with a laugh before the game. "When I have a chance, I get buckets. You can't get buckets sitting on the bench and DNP. I'm trying, though. I'm trying."

If you didn't know, Pecherov had the best game of his career on Nov. 4, when he scored a career-high 24 points with eight rebounds against the Boston Celtics. Pecherov averaged 7.7 points and 4.2 rebounds in the first 17 games of the season, including a string of four consecutive games with 10 or more points. He had a double-double with 12 points and 10 rebounds in a loss to Portland.

But since Kevin Love has returned from his broken hand, Pecherov has been regulated to garbage-time duty, if he gets that at all. Pecherov has played a total of 50 minutes and scored 12 points this month. "Start of the season, I got have playing time. Now I'm not, I don't know why. But I still keep working," Pecherov said, maintaining the same company line he maintained in two seasons in Washington, where he grew increasingly frustrated with his lack of playing time.

"Start of the season, coach gave me more opportunities. He give me playing time and when you get the playing time, you just play basketball, and it's easy to play like this," Pecherov said. "When you feel trusted and feel like you're going to play 20, 30 minutes, you just come and play your game You're knocking down shots, you rebound, get some defensive stops. But when you play five minutes, three minutes a game, it's tough. You come in the game when the game already decided, you're up 20, down 20, it's a different game. You try and rush your shot. It's difficult. I try working and I hope I can get another chance and opportunity and be ready for it."

Pecherov said it is also tough being on a losing team again, but added that it's also tough adjusting to the cold weather and snow in Minnesota. "It's strange. In Ukraine, it's the same weather like here, but last four years, I didn't live in Ukraine," he said. "Compared to Washington, it's really cold out here. We've been traveling a lot, so that keeps us warm. We've been going to LA two times already. But here's really cold and it's a lot of snow. It's unbelievable, but you adjust."

Pecherov is the only piece that Minnesota acquired in the pre-draft trade that brought Randy Foye and Mike Miller to the Wizards. Ricky Rubio, the fifth pick, stayed in Europe while Etan Thomas and Darius Songaila both were traded. Pecherov said he understands why he was dealt.

"I like DC. I like the city, the team the players," Pecherov said. "But it's a business. Nothing you can do about this. Nothing personal. It's just basketball stuff, business. I loved the guys in DC, for two years they were nice to me and treat me very well. I was feeling great about it. it's part of the business of basketball. you got traded, but you got to keep going. It's new stage in your career and you hope it makes you better."

Coach Flip Saunders said that Gilbert Arenas tested his bruised left thigh in the morning shootaround and should be fine tonight against the Timberwolves. Saunders added that the current NBA investigation into the guns that Arenas brought to Verizon Center and kept hidden in his lock box would not serve as a distraction for him. "He's pretty focused playing wise," Saunders said. "I think he's okay."

Saunders gave his players the opportunity to spend Christmas Eve and Christmas morning to arrive in Minnesota on Friday afternoon. He had a few players and coaches at his house to celebrate Christmas on Friday. I heard lobster tails were on the menu. Not bad.

Saunders said his ride from Milwaukee to Minnesota took eight hours, instead of the usual five, because of inclement weather in the Midwest. The snow didn't ruin the trip for "the Minnesota contingent." Saunders and his assistants, Randy Wittman, Don Zierden and son, Ryan, took a chartered bus that was equipped with couches and DirectTV.

"We weren't cramped," Saunders said. "I wasn't too concerned we weren't going to make it. We sat back, watched TV, film, slept."

Making his fourth trip to the Target Center as a visiting coach, Saunders said the feeling isn't quite the same as his first visit as coach of the Pistons. But he added that the challenge whenever he comes back to Minnesota, is keeping everything in perspective for his friends. "Sometimes, when you come back, you have so many people that want to talk to you, you have to tell them, this isn't a social visit," he said. "This is still considered a business trip."

By Michael Lee  |  December 26, 2009; 7:57 PM ET
 
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Comments

well this sucks...I was all ready with a new log on the fire. No game on TV?

Way to go NBA, people actually want to watch 2 of your worst teams play and the game ain't available.

Posted by: Blurred | December 26, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah it is not on Verizon FiOS here in Loudoun and NBA TV is blacked out.

Posted by: amorris525 | December 26, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

you can watch it here, it's not a very good feed but still, http://www.rwbsports.com/ch5.html

Posted by: bford1kb | December 26, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

click on the add and go back and they should disappear

Posted by: bford1kb | December 26, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

the feed has improved drastically since the 1st though

Posted by: bford1kb | December 26, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Comcast sportsnet has it, and on Dish it's on one of the alternate comcast channels 447.

Posted by: rickgonz | December 26, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Could Brenda go up any weaker on that last move?
God he is such an unathletic waste some nights...

Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness Minnesota is a bad team.
They make mindless turnovers and take bad shots just like the Zards!

Brendan looks like he's sleep walking.

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 26, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

again, the energy just sucks tonight. Its such a lifeless performance. The crowd isnt helping much. The arena sounds pretty dead which adds to the low energy but still. Guys have to step up. Wood is playing so soft and AJ looks like he didnt even show up. Gil should have 10ast right now if these guys would finish and played with more energy.

Posted by: dlts20 | December 26, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

again, the energy just sucks tonight. Its such a lifeless performance. The crowd isnt helping much. The arena sounds pretty dead which adds to the low energy but still. Guys have to step up. Wood is playing so soft and AJ looks like he didnt even show up. Gil should have 10ast right now if these guys would finish and played with more energy.

Posted by: dlts20

And I'll add that Caron is back to triple clutching on open jumpers, just to drive into a bad contested shot...

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 26, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I also need someone to explain why Jamison can only leave his feet on the offensive end of the court?

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 26, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

he knows scoring is his meal ticket, he can't afford to overly burden those old legs on d

Posted by: bford1kb | December 26, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Jamison needs to sit..

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 26, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

jamison 1/5 from 3-point range. who'd have thought?

Posted by: saltine182 | December 26, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Blatche posterized...that's what happens when you play folks soft..

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 26, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

wiz are blowing it.

chance to beat up on a soft opponent and extend a winning streak and they are playing lousy, giving up too many second chance opps, and taking long jumpers instead of attacking the basket against a smallish front line. Never understand how some basic principles are ignored in the NBA.

Posted by: saltine182 | December 26, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I was watching into the 4th and feed quit & won't refresh.
anyone else have this problem?
Wizzies look like the walked to Minn.
http://www.rwbsports.com/ch5.html

Posted by: VBFan | December 26, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

call a timeout. please Flip.

Posted by: saltine182 | December 26, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

the feed did quit but sadly its back to watch this trash

Posted by: bford1kb | December 26, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

the feed did quit but sadly its back to watch this trash

Posted by: bford1kb | December 26, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Man this is pathetic. Time to blow this thing up IMO.

Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I am disgusted by this team... I am giving up... I don't wanna see Jamison in this team anymore...

Posted by: adisli | December 26, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

They fricken suck! Just when I thought they are getting it they lay a goose egg like this again! When will they finally get it?

Posted by: JohnWWW | December 26, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards are disgusting to watch.

No energy on the road. No energy at home. No show against bad teams. No effort against good teams.

They mirror the Redskins with there ability to not only be losers, but to be an embarrassment to the city of Washington.

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 26, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

why so many 3s?

haywood scores 2 fricking pts in 35mins, that's just unacceptable from your starting C.

Is there a rule Jamison has to play 40+ no matter what? Geezus, sit him down sometimes Flip.

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Talk about no energy.
The Wolves looked like a basketball team.
The wizzies looked like they usually do.
Going through the motions.
Bad Bad Bad.

Posted by: VBFan | December 26, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I know ya'll love Flip but tell me how do you lose to a team that was life and death to beat the Nets! and why not go to a 3 guard rotation(Gil,Earl&Randy)down the stretch hell you're getting outrebounded anyway might as well see if little man can save you again and oh yeah Flip got outcoached by Rambis hell even sorry azz Eddie Tapscott beat dees bums like i said he's got a better squad than EJ had to work with and can't beat the dreggs of this league,and does anyone know when spring training starts? LMAO!

Posted by: dargregmag | December 26, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

The game was tight until late in the 3rd quarter when AB and Boykins was substituted for BH and RF.

Gilbert Arenas was scoring to keep the game tight. When AB and Boykins came in his scoring stopped and Minnesota took a lead that they never lost.

When Flip brought BH and RF back into the game in the midway through the 4th Minnesota had already sealed a 10-pt cushion.

It appeared by the NBA box score update that the substitions threw of Arenas's scoring and no one else was scoring for the Wizards.

Also, Haywood had 10 rebounds when I clicked away but only had 4 shots and 2 points.

Arenas had 7 assist and was 2nd in rebounds.

However, when the sub's were made late in the 3rd Q, the Team as a whole went cold.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Brenda goes between decent and useless but NEVER beasts out with a big time performance.

When is the last time he gave us 20 pts, 10 rebs and 3 blocks?

Free McGee!

Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Wizzies had a chance to build on a 2 game streak and they just mail it in.
Terrible team play on both ends of the floor.
They let down the DC fans.
Flip it's your job to wake these guys up.

Posted by: VBFan | December 26, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

and this was a game Flip was supposed to be super-motivated for....

each of the Supposed3 logged at least 40mins....any damn fool can throw the starters out there forever and see what happens. It would seem a good coach could try and use the bench more effectively.

"Hey Nick, here's 5mins, do something with it if you ever want to play again."

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

blow
it
up

Posted by: thickman22 | December 26, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

yeah, games like this are brutal reminders of exactly what type player brendon is aside from the occasional decent games.

how can you be 7ft tall, play 32mins in the paint, and not take a single FT the entire game??

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Andray Blatche should not be substituted for Haywood. He should be substituted for either the 4, 3, or the 2, depending on how they are playing.

AJ, CB, are versatile enough to play down a slot.

I don't know what Flip is trying to accomplish by playing only one of our bigs all the time.

Can anyone give any justification why it is alright to use our bigs always by themselves and not together at any stretches in the game?

To me it would make whatever we are trying to do so mush easier.

Am I alone in this observation?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

This team was clearly hungover from Flip's holiday party. They couldn't grab a rebound to save their lives in the first half, then just decided to stop hanging on to the basketball. The only player who looked like he had any interest in winning this game was Randy Foye. This was a pathetic, unacceptable effort. The Wolves tonight showed what a hungry team looked like, the team the Wizards were in 04-05 and for a brief stretch in 06-07.

Time to blow this team up. The urgency for this group to win was for Abe Pollin, but he's gone and clearly that hasn't motivated them to get it in gear. This "team" just enjoys inventing ways to lose.

Posted by: NWDC3 | December 26, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

These guys just can't stand the thought of winning more than two games straight. It absolutely terrifies them.
I'm sure we'll hear more happy talk from Jamison, blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: and_1 | December 26, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Gil was an atrocious 1-7 in the 4th quarter including the blocked layup where he didnt get 5inches off the ground. Hard to watch those

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

According to the interactive boxscore Haywood played well defensively but was not part of the offense. In fact, it appeared that it was a halfcourt game throughout until late in the 3rd Q when Brendan and Foye was taken out of the game ant the Wolves took off and left the Wizs standing.

When BH was subbed by AB, that is when a tight game turned into the Wolves favor.

Now had AB come in for anyone else besides BH, I do not think the game would have turned as it did.

To blame a lack of play on BH for the turn of the game to the Wolves favor when he was on the bench is amazing.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

1pt game going into the 4th, 'zards proceed to take only 4 shots in the paint the entire period (hitting 3 of them).

that's lazy "hope we win" ball

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

The comments about Haywood are truly amazing. It is like some think that he is the 7ft guy that should be winning games for the Wizards.

He isn't and will never be winning games for the Wizards. What he is a creditable role player that requires help in the paint.

To continue to play him alone in the paint without help from Blatch or McGee is not going to give the Wizards the type of paint play we need.

Why Flip is stuck on not using his bigs together at all is the issue.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

"Andray Blatche should not be substituted for Haywood. He should be substituted for either the 4, 3, or the 2, depending on how they are playing."

Wow. On the long list of utterly ridiculous things you've said, suggesting that Blatche play SG is a real gem.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 26, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Your starting center cant play 35mins and score 2pts. That's just unacceptable and is the equivalent of playing 4-on-5.

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

According to the box score AB and Earl did nothing in this game.

Earlier in the year when AJ was hurt and Blatche got minutes, does it not darn on anyone that has half a brain that the fact that Blatche played well was because Haywood was also on the floor with him for most of those minutes.

When you put Blatche in the game now to play center he is up the creek without a paddle. It a whole different ball game for him.

Blatche needs Haywood on the floor with him. It makes his game easier and vice versa for Haywood.

Both of these guys play well together and when you have two 7-footers playing well together it makes everything else easier.

Don't take my word for it. Go back and look at those games when Blatche played well when AJ was out and you will see that Haywood was in the games with him for stretches.

To bring Blatche in the game and sit Haywood is pointless. It makes no sense and adds nothing to this Team.

In order for that to work Haywood and Blatche individually would have to be one of the better centers in the League.

They are not and clearly no one can disagree with that, but you can clearly make them highly effective by playing them together.

It is not the perimeter play, but it is the interior play where Flip is blowing it big time.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Andray Blatche should not be substituted for Haywood. He should be substituted for either the 4, 3, or the 2, depending on how they are playing."

Wow. On the long list of utterly ridiculous things you've said, suggesting that Blatche play SG is a real gem.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 26, 2009 11:03 PM

Sometimes your reasoning is astounding. When Blatche comes in he is always playing the 4, no matter whom he replaces. If he replaces the 2, then AJ and CB moves.

I don't even know why I am even answering to you lack of vision.

Give me a break. You cannot be serious.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"According to the box score AB and Earl did nothing in this game."

Which means you didn't see the game, which means that any observations you have about what happened in the game are inherently invalid and meaningless. Blatche did, in fact, spend some of his PT in this game on the court with Haywood (mostly in the first half).

"Earlier in the year when AJ was hurt and Blatche got minutes, does it not darn on anyone that has half a brain that the fact that Blatche played well was because Haywood was also on the floor with him for most of those minutes."

And I'm assuming you didn't see any of those games earlier either, because if you had you'd have known that when Jamison was out, Oberto was the starter at PF, not Blatche, and that Blatce got a lot of his minutes at C in place of Haywood. He and Haywood did not log a lot of extended time on court together.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 26, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

LarryInClinton did you watch the game I did and if you saw Flip on the sideline you would of seen how frustrated he looked like he wanted to pull the starters but could not???? I wonder if the reason those were kept in is because they were auditioning for a trade ???? Just a thought

Posted by: rnorris6 | December 26, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Your starting center cant play 35mins and score 2pts. That's just unacceptable and is the equivalent of playing 4-on-5.

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 11:05 PM

Divi3

When the starting center went to the bench late in the 3rd Q, coincidentally that is when the Wolves took the lead and control of the game.

When Flip brought him back into the game the Wolves basically had a 10-pt spread that they had acquired in his absence.

His replacement Blatche had 8 pts. A lot of good that did.

PLAY THEM BOTH TOGETHER FOR GOD SAKES.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Brenda is just too inconsistent. Remember last season when some folks on this board tried to say that not having Haywood was as big a reason for the season going off the track as Hibachi's knee?

That type of talk seems baseless now.

He did a very poor job keeping Love and Jefferson off the glass despite a 3 to 4 inch height advantage.

His length is nullified by his knock-kneed jumping technique and his biddy basketball tendency to bring the ball down on EVERY gather for a paint finish.

He gets the ball slapped away way more than he should plus he's erratic from the line WHEN he gets there.

He averages 13.8 points per 48 which is lower than every other big on thie Wiz except OldBerto.

When the team is losing so many close games I think it's fair to nitpick Brenda's lack of offensive acumen.


Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

"When Blatche comes in he is always playing the 4, no matter whom he replaces.

Really? Then why are you incessently bit@#ing (as in the long rambling, logic-challenged posts in this very thread) about him logging so much time playing the 5 when he replaces Haywood? Jesus, you're spewing crap at such an incredible rate that you can't even keep it straight any more.

"If he replaces the 2, then AJ and CB moves."

Yeah, because playing Jamison at SF and Butler at SG have proven to be such overwhelmingly successful strategies in the past, right? Of course, that's not really the point, is it? All you care about is that your boy AB stuff the stat sheet, the rest of the team be damned.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 26, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I will give Haywood credit for at least not firing up any of those wrong-footed 15 foot heaves this game. That's some kind of progress, I guess.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Brendan did not lose this game.
It was a team effort.
That was the only teamwork by the Wizzies tonight. They played to lose as a team.
Embarassing for the fans.
Flip should be redfaced embarassed to let this happen.

Posted by: VBFan | December 26, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

More turnovers (16) than assists (12) adds up to a big phat L every time.

Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Haywood not scoring isn't really the problem, per se. He's not a scorer and unless he has a point-blank gimme (a couple of which he failed to convert in this game) he shouldn't be thinking about scoring. Problem is, he does nothing else that helps the team on offense, either. He doesn't set great screens, is not a very good passer, doesn't finish well in traffic. He's a near-complete null space on the offensive end of the floor.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 26, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Did not see the game but observed an active boxscore that updated every rebound, foul, freethrow, score, and who was on the floor.

It gave a good indication of how the game flowed without having visual.

However, after giving up on the internet visuals that were lousy I settled for the non-visual updates.

When I picked it up in the 2nd Q, Blatche already had six points. So if Kalo is right and he played with BH in the first then obviously he played his best then, for late in the 4th he only scored 2 more points.

And yes I saw those games in the beginning of the season and Blatche did play in games with Brendan or Oberto on the floor at the same time.

The point is and it cannot be refuted is that our bigs play better when two of them play together and not individually.

That is my point and you can slice and dice all you want, but this Team is never going to compete in the paint playing one bigs for the huge minutes the way Flip is doing.

Individually our bigs are mincemeat for any Team in this league. They must play together.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

"Brendan did not lose this game. It was a team effort."

It always is. Let's face facts: The Wizards are now one of those teams that bad teams see on their home schedule and think "This is one we should be able to get."

It also seems like whenever the Wiz get a lead against a bottom feeder and the other team makes a run (as they always do) the Wizards seem to panic and start pressing almost immediately, like they're desperately trying to stave off the embarrassment of another loss to a team they consider to be "beneath" them.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 26, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Brenda is like a VERY poor man's Robert Parrish but it's not the 20th century anymore.

Today's big men are more nimble, athletic and fluid.

Mark me down in the nay column when it comes to re-signing him this July.

Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

well, if we arent going to resign him, it would be nice to get Mcgee some PT so that he can be some semblance of a starting C next year

Posted by: divi3 | December 26, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Divi3.

Let's dust the kid off and get him out of the doghouse. The only thing our selfish vets respond to is seeing their minutes yanked around.

Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Problem is, he does nothing else that helps the team on offense, either. He doesn't set great screens, is not a very good passer, doesn't finish well in traffic. He's a near-complete null space on the offensive end of the floor.

You forgot about offensive rebounding. Haywood is an excellent offensive rebounder. He's tied for third in the league in offensive rebounds per game (4.1 per game).

Posted by: joe_sill | December 27, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

And those of you that saw the game other than being there, what market were you in.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 27, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

"The point is and it cannot be refuted is that our bigs play better when two of them play together and not individually."

Any point can be refuted. Observe:

On offense, playing Blatche and Haywod together has no discernible improvement over Haywood and Jamison or Blatche and Jamison. Haywood has no offensive impact and Blatche, like Jamison, is mostly a jumpshooter, so he brings little-to-nothing at this end of the floor that they can't get as much of or more from Jamison. In fact, Jamsion is a better interior player than Blatche. He also shoots a higher percentage than Blatche (despite the fact that Jamison takes many more 3 pointers).

On defense, Blatche's only advantage over Jamison is height, which is negligible at best. He doesn't move his feet very well defensively and commits a lot of cheap fouls by reaching with his hands. He's not an esp. good individual defender, and his shot blocking is hardly of the game-changing variety. Is he a better defender thatn Jamsion? Possibly, although not by any dramatic measure. And certainly not enough better to justify taking away Jamison's minutes given Jamison's greater impact on offense

Of course, none of this takes into account the suggestion that Jamison and Butler be moved to SF and SG to accommodate Blatche at PF, but that's because that's a pretty ridiculous suggestion, quite frankly.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 27, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

"You forgot about offensive rebounding. Haywood is an excellent offensive rebounder. He's tied for third in the league in offensive rebounds per game (4.1 per game)."

Except his inability to (A) finish strong at the rim in traffic or (B) make a good pass out that facilitates the offense takes away a lot of the positives that should result from his offensive rebounding. He'll often grab an offensive board only to end up (A) getting a weak putback blocked and/or taken away by the other team, (B) getting a 3-second call for camping out in the lane while trying to gather himself for said attempt or (C) (and this one really kills me) dribbling the ball out of the paint and launching a wild, off-balance, half-blind "shot" that barely makes contact with the rim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 27, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

i swear it seems like we've taken even more 3s since Flip commented we take too many of them some weeks back. NBA is a player's league and not that many coaches are able to hold their stars feet to the fire, it seems to me Flip overcompensates by dogging the young players while rarely harshing the vets

Posted by: divi3 | December 27, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

He's tied for third in the league in offensive rebounds per game (4.1 per game).


Posted by: joe_sill

And he still can't average 10 points a game in over 30 minutes. It's like what's the point sometimes with Haywood.

How many times has he grabbed an offensive board, gone up weak and missed the easy layin but gotten fouled.

Then he splits a pair at the line. Classic Jared Jeffries disease.

Is this BS worth 7 million a year when there's potentially a young stud on the bench ready to break out?

Posted by: elfreako | December 27, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Thats the second time I've seen Haywood being criticized about setting screens. Have you blokes been really watching this team over the years?

Haywood is the only one who consistently sets screens on this Team. No one and I mean no one else sets screens on this Team.

Why don't you guys criticize the other 14 guys that never set screens.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 27, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Basically for better or worse we lost to a LOTTERY BOUND TEAM and that is a sad day for DC

Posted by: rnorris6 | December 27, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

2pts Larry, 2 fricking points. That's why the microscope happens to be on haywood even though obviously others failed tonight as well

Posted by: divi3 | December 27, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Like I have been saying BH is a mirage.
He is not in any way set for this modern game.
So many can do perform all aspects of the game, and BH is beyond limited.
Also at the beginning of the season the Wiz were playing more active man on man D.
I can not stand watching BH with his "jump outs" which creates more mis matches and always leaves the inside open. He is not fast enough to jump out and then recover inside.
AJ is also spent. Yes he will throw in some stat games when all goes his way, but we need at least 3 to play defense and now we have an occasional 2.
I do see GA fighting on D and actually manning up, but unless the team commits it becomes useless.
Flip is becoming a human facial tick. He historically has been very nervous, but he will not survive this team physically or emotionally.
Yes it is past time to continue to expect these same principals to improve.
Time to detonate...go young and energetic, and physical...like all of the young and improving teams are doing Sac, Okc, Minn, Memp, Port, Atl...or else we are doomed to remain the Clippers of the East.
See ya BH, CB and AJ. What was EG thinking with Oberto, please!!!

Posted by: mricklen | December 27, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

The whole point and the obvious point of playing BH and AB or JM together is to strengthen the paint play for the Team.

AJ and CB are talented enough to do what they do. There games are not going to be effected measureably by tweaking there playing roles. AJ will continue to do what he does even from the three and CB's game will not change that much from the two, especially with Gilbert on the floor.

However, by playing two of our bigs together will upgrade the paint play. Giving it a serious effort IMO is the only thing that is going to get this Team over the hump.

If the PAINT PLAY for the Wizards does not improve measurably, this Team isn't going anywhere.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 27, 2009 12:40 AM | Report abuse

2pts Larry, 2 fricking points. That's why the microscope happens to be on haywood even though obviously others failed tonight as well

Posted by: divi3 | December 27, 2009 12:25 AM

Divi3,

I kept looking at the box score and it was incredulous to me why he only had two points. He also only took 4 shots.

It was also obvious that this Team is playing slow. When you play slow the inside presence must be strong in order for you to be successful.

Haywood isn't a strong inside presence, but you can make him more effective if the Tempo is fast. He is really a garbage player and those types of players need the type of easy opportunities that fast play presents.

When you play a controlled more deliberate style of game it is harder for Haywood to excel.

That is why I am adamant that we must play Haywood and Blatche together for it does not appear that we are Runnin' and Gunnin'.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 27, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Divi3.

Let's dust the kid off and get him out of the doghouse. The only thing our selfish vets respond to is seeing their minutes yanked around.

Posted by: elfreako | December 26, 2009 11:58 PM

Elfeako,

It won't do any good to dust off the kid with the style of play that Flip is teaching.

Javale, Brendan, and Blatche need a lot faster tempo than the one he is running. I am afraid that most of you may get your wish.

None of those three guys will sign with the Wizards for the style of play that Flip is teaching.

They will excell elsewhere if things donot start to change, even Brendan.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 27, 2009 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Ugly loss. A game where it probably would have been better to have Boykin closing out the final 7 minutes.

Arenas's stat had some pluses, but another 7 TOs is killer.

Terrible ball movement towards the end too. Poor shot selection. Trying to get everything off of the dribble and dribble penetration. No attempt to make the opponents work on the defensive end.

Posted by: JPRS | December 27, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

getagripped wrote:
When is mcgee contract up and is there's an option hopefully not he needs to get away from this organization. Who's the teams big man trainer obviously they aren't learning anything. This team will continually sink lower and lower no smart lack of heart just freaking selfish.

Posted by: getagripped | December 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

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