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Wizards (7-14) at Clippers (9-13)

Wizards starters: Gilbert Arenas, DeShawn Stevenson, Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison, Brendan Haywood

Clippers: Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Al Thornton, Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman

Line: Clippers by 1.5

First off, Flip Saunders is adamant that there is no way that there was enough time for Indiana Pacers forward Mike Dunleavy to catch the ball, come down and shoot with five-tenths of a second remaining of the Wizards' 114-113 loss on Saturday. Saunders was still upset a few days later after officials determined that Brendan Haywood fouled Dunleavy with 0.1 seconds left, which led to the decisive free throws.

"It's virtually impossible," Saunders said. "You can't do it."

But since the Pacers were allowed to have the time, Saunders said that he would've defended the play much differently. The Wizards were expecting the Pacers to throw a lob to Tyler Hansbrough on the final possession but they decided to place DeShawn Stevenson on Dunleavy, who is four inches taller than the 6-foot-5 Stevenson. Dominic McGuire, who is 6-9, was guarding the 5-11 Travis Ford in the corner, while the 6-11 Andray Blatche was supposed to create a difficult pass for inbounder Earl Watson.

The final sequence led to some confusion for the Wizards, especially from Stevenson, who clearly wasn't expecting to guard Dunleavy. Watson quickly attacked that matchup and threw the lob to Dunleavy, but since Hansbrough was expecting the pass, he drew Haywood to the play.

"Watson made a helluva a pass to Dunleavy. In hindsight, it would've been nice, we probably should've had McGuire matched up instead of D-Steve. But D-Steve is one of our better defenders and in that situation," Saunders said. Then, he paused and said, "It was a bad call" by the referees.

Mike Miller, who has missed the past nine games with a strained right calf, joined the Wizards in Los Angeles, which gave him a chance to spend some time with his family -- wife, Jen, and two sons -- which is residing in Southern California while he stays in Washington. Saunders said that Miller will stay behind for the rest of the trip to visit with a few specialists with the hope that he can return to action.

"We're hoping in five or six days, he'll do some more extensive running and jumping," Saunders said.

Miller was expected to miss five weeks when he got injured in San Antonio on Nov. 22. He said that the Wizards have targeted his return to be after Jan. 1, but Miller wants to come back sooner. "We can look at something, re-evaluate it after this trip and see where we are at," said Miller, who has been limited to stand still shooting. "I haven't done any running. That's going to be the true test. Running and cutting. It's still soreness in there, but I think it's manageable. Once they let me start running and cutting, which I hope will be next Monday, we'll see how it goes."

Miller said it has been difficult sitting out the past few weeks, especially during this current four-game losing streak. The Wizards have lost those games by a combined nine points. "It's just hard. It really is hard. It makes it difficult when there are close games and you feel like you can be an impact in the game," Miller said. "It's one thing if you were getting beat by 20 points. How much can you impact a 20-point loss? In close games, I feel I can be part of getting us over the edge."

Memphis Grizzlies forward Rudy Gay scored 41 points on Sunday against Miami, which put him within range of Miller's franchise record of 45. Miller scored his career-high against Golden State on Feb. 21. He said he was relieved that his record still stands.

"I'm going to tell Rudy, 'Close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades,' " Miller said with a laugh. "We'll see if he's there a long time, I'm sure he'll get it."

Saunders said he still has confidence in Gilbert Arenas closing games for his team despite his failings in the past two weeks. Arenas missed two free throws in the closing seconds in each of the past two games against Boston and Indiana and also missed a layup at the end of a loss to Toronto.

"He's your best player. He's going to have the ball in his hands," Saunders said. "It's kind of like that Michael Jordan commercial. He's failed more than he's made. People remember the shots he's made. Unfortunately people remember the ones Gilbert's missed. I have confidence he'll make those shots."

Saunders sounded a bit perturbed when Young made a three-pointer in the second half against Indiana and started high-fiving his teammates as he ran down the court. While Young was celebrating, Saunders said that his man, Pacers guard Brandon Rush, was attempting a wide open three-pointer in the left corner. "Those are things that you can't have happen," he said.

By Michael Lee  |  December 14, 2009; 9:59 PM ET
 
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Comments

Hope the Wiz win tonight, but a Clips win wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: t-train | December 14, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Why is Stevenson playing?????????? I thought Eddie Jordan was bad. AAHHH

Posted by: 33dgriffin | December 14, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

"First off, Flip Saunders is adamant that there is no way that there was enough time for Indiana Pacers forward Mike Dunleavy to catch the ball, come down and shoot with five-tenths of a second remaining of the Wizards' 114-113 loss on Saturday. Saunders was still upset a few days later after officials determined that Brendan Haywood fouled Dunleavy with 0.1 seconds left, which led to the decisive free throws.

"It's virtually impossible," Saunders said. "You can't do it.""

Hey Flip, "Impossible is nothing." The Pacers did it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_87VZAAgGs

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 14, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Saunders sounded a bit perturbed when Young made a three-pointer in the second half against Indiana and started high-fiving his teammates as he ran down the court. While Young was celebrating, Saunders said that his man, Pacers guard Brandon Rush, was attempting a wide open three-pointer in the left corner. "Those are things that you can't have happen," he said.

And this is why I say you never know what's going on as to why someone is on the bench. He should've been nailed to the bench for that.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 14, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Flip's got a man-crush on Stevenson (shrug). What can you do?

Posted by: artiesliver | December 14, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

CB shouldnt be allowed to shoot after he puts the ball on the floor.

Posted by: divi3 | December 14, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

"

Saunders sounded a bit perturbed when Young made a three-pointer in the second half against Indiana and started high-fiving his teammates as he ran down the court. While Young was celebrating, Saunders said that his man, Pacers guard Brandon Rush, was attempting a wide open three-pointer in the left corner. "Those are things that you can't have happen," he said."

Yes, and before the season started, Flip told NY to wipe that smile off his face, to which his mom said that NY has always smiled.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 14, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Here we go with this second quarter nonsense. Maybe getting the starters out earlier in the 1st and bringing them in sooner in the 2nd?

I hope Earl gets hurt so Flip doesn't have a choice in using him.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | December 14, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Caron is just a turnover machine!

Posted by: and_1 | December 14, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

geezus Caron is awful. And Haywood's nickname should be assist-killer, cant score when he's spoonfed 1ft from the basket.

Posted by: divi3 | December 14, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Did you notice didn't do the three around the back loops on his FTs? Dude might be starting to get serious!

Posted by: and_1 | December 14, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

The homer club for men (Bucky) president says:

"The Wizards offense is nonexistent."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 14, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Typo:

...notice Gil didn't...

Posted by: and_1 | December 14, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, as soon as we show signs of life on defense our offense turns horrid. Sigh!

These second units Flip keeps trying are just awful. He has to find a combination that has a clue how to play together.

Again, Boykins is NOT the answer. He should be an emergency player and Foye should be given the reigns. After all, was that not what he was brought here to do. He can't be worse at initiating offense and he certainly is 20x the defender.

Get a second unit to practice together and get some continuity. I say it should be Foye, Young, Blatche, Oberto/McGee, and Jamison/Butler for now. MM returning will make the mins even less taxing on Jamison/Butler. The Boykins experiment should be over!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 14, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

For all those whining about DS, have you not noticed the continuity has returned the the starting lineup since he has been reinserted? Sorry, but he provides much needed toughness and hustle and knows how to play with these guys. NY is hit or miss and continues to have lapses in focus. He is like Blatche used to be. Besides we don't need 4/5 scorers on the court at all times.

The starters are dominating the last few games. It's the vaunted deep bench that has let us down the past few games. The starters took over again at the end of this half. Yeah, Arenas sucks initiating the offense. Insert sarcasm. He may not be John Stockton, but with his legs returning he sure as hell is the best we have.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 14, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

@SDM,

lol...we think exactly alike. I can't stand Boykins. I appreciate him bailing us out in three games. Great! He came back and caught everyone off guard. It's over! There was a reason he was out of the league.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 14, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Nice 3rd quarter on both ends. Get a back lead and we jake up jumpers on two straight possessions. Finish them off!!! Don't get squirrely with the lead. Again, team IQ?

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Two straight TOs. C'mon!!

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Falling in love with jumpers now. Nothing's going inside. What is wrong with these guys??!

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Arenas, take a seat. Turnovers, stupid long jumpers a recipe for disaster. And here come the Clippers. Stevenson, don't ever shoot the ball

Posted by: oljakers | December 15, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

God - McGuire, Boykins, Haywood, Jamison and Stevenson on the floor and the lead disappears. I'm shocked. Who knew that lineup wouldn't work?

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Boykins is an utter disaster!

Otherwise, this team is mentally weak. They can't handle success.

What a dumbass play by Boykins!!!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I MUST HATE MYSELF, rooting for this team is a form of self loathing

Posted by: oljakers | December 15, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Dumb play by Boykins. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

EB is the closing the gap for the wrong team. Why did we trade for RF and not play him?

Posted by: mcdonougha | December 15, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Foye should be playing instead of Boykins and until Flip figures that out we are in trouble. Big time!

If he plays more than a couple of mins in the fourth we lose this game when leading by 17!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Here we go again.

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Boykins is a dribbling machine. Pass the ball why don't cha?!

Posted by: t-train | December 15, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

@McD,

I have no idea man!? None. The worst thing that could have happened to this team may have been his 2/3 good games when teams had no clue what to expect from the little man. Now we are stuck with his horrible play. Foye can't be worse?? No way!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

rphilli, you must be reading my mind, agree on all counts.

clearly deshawn has the red light on shooting and it's made him much more serviceable on the floor.

boykins doesnt run any offense, he plays 1-on-5 and is getting dominated tonight.

flip's attempts at a 2nd unit are mystifying, these guys are getting blown off the floor nightly

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Jamison is not smart. Doesn't he realize he has to take it inside? Enough with the quick jumpers!!

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

We've gone from dominating this game to not deserving the win. Just pathetic! Bad team!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

nice AB!

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Glad Flip subbed Blatche in. Jamison just wants to shoot long-range bombs.

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

See now we got a real lineup on the court and we are pulling away again. So much for the vaunted bench bc some of these lineups are beyond belief. We fielded better lineups last year off the bench!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

@and_1,

Yeah, but here he comes. It goes to team IQ. Yeah, Jamison was hot from 3, but with a 17 pt lead you don't shoot them anymore unless they are wide open after ball movement at the end of the shot clock. We continued to jack thinking the game was over and now we probably lose. Just plain beyond belief dumb!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

What is that 5/6 turnovers by CB? Where is the on court leadership? Where is the swagger? This team has a loser mentality and, therefore, have made themselves into losers. I give FS only a C for coaching thus far this season bc at some point it has to be a reflection of coaching and some of his lineups are beyond dumb. He didn't even want to admit that DS should not have covered Dunleavy last game.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Gee!! Jamison goes inside and good things happen!! Who woulda thunk it!?

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Let's count the number of dumb plays we make in the last 5 mins.

1 - jamison turnover.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Damn. Kaman is looking like Olajuwan.

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

2 - another turnover horrid possession started by Arenas.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Clippers were dying on the vine and we revived them. Un f-ing believable!

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

3 - And 1 on DS.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Flip lost this game in the 3rd when he went with DMac, BH, DS, EB and AJ. When he came with NY 2:00 minutes later it was too late.

Posted by: 33dgriffin | December 15, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

rphilli,

You might make it up to 10 before the night's over.

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentleman,

I might be taking a break from this team bc as someone stated watching this team is like a form of self loathing at this point. I was all about giving them until the end of the month but this month is almost half over and our schedule couldn't be easier. Tonight, we managed to lose a 17 pt lead to the Clippers! To the Clippers! We suck!

4 - another turnover on Arenas. Number 6! Game Over!

Played like a bunch of scared babies down the stretch!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Horrendous rotation by Flip tonight. If Gil and Caron aren't in the game, then Nick Young has to be so we have some offense.
BLOW THE TEAM UP GRUNFELD!

This team is terrible to watch.

Posted by: saltine182 | December 15, 2009 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Boykins can save us! Yeah, right.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

33dgriffin......i agree completely...i was thinking the same thing watching the lead disappear...what was he thinking

flip=zorn....what do you think the odds are of leonsis takes away substitutions and play calling away from flip and give it to someone else to relay to cassell and then into the game....

Posted by: IZZY3 | December 15, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Why is Flip throwing away games? The 3rd quarter was ridiculous. That was one of the worst line ups I've seen so far this year. Stop starting DS please...Stop play Boykins over Foye please....Give Blatche more minute please.....STOP LOSING game for up with poor coaching....PLEASE!!!!

Posted by: lemekdivine | December 15, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

And here comes Boykins...

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

-25 point swing in the last 13 minutes. Un-fing-believable.

Posted by: saltine182 | December 15, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

This team is absolutely terrible...
Mark it the wizards won't make the playoffs again as long as we have this core...

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 15, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

5 - another turnover by Jamison.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Bad call - Jamison blocked that shot.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

The 100 million dollar man...
Ernie should be ashamed of himself!

How can you sign somebody who was just coming off of surgery,
what a blithering id!ot!

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 15, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

TAKE IT INSIDE!!

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Really Boykins is on the court? Might as well be playing 4 on 5 on defense

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Butler is not a 3-pt shooter. Why?!!!

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards were running in the first half and part of the 3rd quarter. Everything was good until Flip decides to go stupid on us again....Boykin should never be on the court as the same time as DMac. Never...I think Javal might have help on Kaman tonight I little bit.

Posted by: lemekdivine | December 15, 2009 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Butler wanted to be the hero, thats why

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 15, 2009 12:59 AM | Report abuse

:::::::GAME OVER:::::::

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 15, 2009 1:00 AM | Report abuse

If down was up and west was east, would EB be better than RF? Not even in Alice in Wonderland where the laws of physics don't apply, is EB better than RF. Yet, he plays much more and we lose again.

Posted by: mcdonougha | December 15, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Somebody want to tell me why Boykins plays instead of Foye? Anybody?

He can't get his own shot off unless it is a low percentage circus shot. He doesn't initiate offense or get assists. He plays zero defense.

Foye - can get his own shot easily and can take it to the rack, can play defense, and can initiate the offense better than Boykins. He just haven't been given the opportunity since he got hurt.

Yeah, makes perfect sense to me. I can't stand this team sometimes.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

i can't believe i stayed up for this s++t. why can't a reporter get some sac and call it like it is...FLIP was pathetic tonite and that's the main reason why we lost...we looks like an idiot watching us give up the lead...keeps turning back to the assistants and saying something but doing nothing about it...why don't his assistants say something...they had zero offense on the court...jamison in one of his cold streaks at the worst time and stevenson showing his shooting prowess...i rode the pine in high school in the late eighties and i can shoot better today then ds can....arrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: IZZY3 | December 15, 2009 1:04 AM | Report abuse

That's another thing. McGee has not seen the court. BH is letting Kaman look like a superstar and McGee can't even get in the game. What's up with Flip?

Posted by: 33dgriffin | December 15, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

rphilli,

You're right. Low team IQ. Bad lineups by Flip. Ball game!!
Wiz have to be the only team in the league to lose two straight after going up by 17. They are getting better at finding ways to lose and it looks like it's going to be a long, long season.

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

rphilli,

You're right. Low team IQ. Bad lineups by Flip. Ball game!!
Wiz have to be the only team in the league to lose two straight after going up by 17. They are getting better at finding ways to lose and it looks like it's going to be a long, long season.

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

you are too nice...kaman made a fool out of haywood...pathetic

Posted by: IZZY3 | December 15, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Dumbasses, get exactly what they deserve. We might have won this game with Foye. If I'm Foye, I'm fuming.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

god d@mn Boykins!!!

Posted by: saltine182 | December 15, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

What a pathetic display!
Are these guys pros or what?

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 15, 2009 1:09 AM | Report abuse

i told you flip was pissed mcgee didnt make the most of the .1sec he had him last game, so all bench tonight

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Ouch.

Posted by: JPRS | December 15, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

hopefully that ends the boykins era

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

This guy is a midget, what is he doing in the game?

Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 15, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

The Flip era will be short if he keeps at it like this. Tapscott looked like he had more of a clue.

Posted by: and_1 | December 15, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

They have to sweep the rest of this road trip to salvage the season. That ain't happening. They are a losing team with a losing IQ and a coach that seems utterly befuddled by the ineptness of his squad.

No leadership! That much I do agree with with Barkley. I just see a helluva lot more talent than he gives us credit for, but right now our talent is wasted. Sad! Time for the Butler trade and see if that shakes things up. It's got to happen. That and Flip needs to stop thinking he is some Albert Einstein chemist and go with lineups that make sense, which includes using Boykins as an emergency not a primary sub. Too stupid to even discuss anymore.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

boykins looks at the floor while he is dribbling around, didnt even pretend to be looking for someone to pass to on that last possession

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Dude, the dribblin' machine just cost us the game. Jamison shoulda passed it to Butler.

Posted by: t-train | December 15, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Does Boykins have to cost us 3/4 more games before Flip sees the light??? C'mon. This is not rocket science. Go by what your supposedly trained eye tells you. If you see us being better with him at PG, then you are flat out blind. It was a sloppy, careless, unprofessional game from the end of the 3rd on. How many turnovers the last 5 mins? 5/6? Disgusting!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Does Boykins have to cost us 3/4 more games before Flip sees the light??? C'mon. This is not rocket science. Go by what your supposedly trained eye tells you. If you see us being better with him at PG, then you are flat out blind. It was a sloppy, careless, unprofessional game from the end of the 3rd on. How many turnovers the last 5 mins? 5/6? Disgusting!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:19 AM | Report abuse

i'm sorry, but i resign from the season. i can't take this anymore. beat by a white guy that's goofier than i am. i'm done.

Posted by: thickman22 | December 15, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Bottom Line is the Wiz are going back to the cellar dweller they always were...

The Gil contract coupled with all the other terrible moves/aging line-up will create 10 plus years of 25-30 win seasons.

They better bring Susan O'Malley back to have those great single's nights and other theme games b/c nobody is gonna pay to watch this...


Posted by: jimmydeanroundsausages | December 15, 2009 1:21 AM | Report abuse

when Gil left with his 4th foul we were up by 14, when he came back in 6mins later it was a 2pt game

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse


WTF is Flip doing? Playing DBrick is a sure loser. Why is McGee sitting on the bench again? I'm starting to think Flip is the problem. GD they suck! Lets hope Leonsis buys the Bullets and blows up this team.

Posted by: wiz_fan | December 15, 2009 1:24 AM | Report abuse

He dribbles scared like the rest of the team plays most of the time down the stretch - scared! He is worried about the turnover/steal bc he is too small to protect the ball with his body. It's very simple. He is too small to play in the NBA!!! Plain and simple. He should have played the 3/4 games Foye was hurt and then been riding pine. Now are only viable real backup is probably lost for the season mentally. Like I said, if I'm Foye I'm pissed as hell. FS is undermining the team and adding to whatever dissension problems may exist.

At least, Mugsy Bogues would lead the league in steals and drive people nuts when dribbling near him, never turn the ball over, and could penetrate through the defense at will to set up shots. Boykins does none of the avobe!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:26 AM | Report abuse

cant really blame boykins for being what he is, can only blame the coach for leaning on him repeatedly like we've seen.

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

@ Wizfan,

Give up the DS bashing. He is not the reason they lost and is a good fit with the starters. He playes a solid tough within himself game.

The second quarter lineups and Boykins playing are what you should be fuming over.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm so pissed my typing and grammar have gone to hell. LMAO Pardon me!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Just wait till Wednesday when Boykins will get extended minutes against Tyreke Evans.

Posted by: t-train | December 15, 2009 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I might watch a couple more games, but if Boykins remains the first option off the bench at PG then I am done. Can't watch it anymore. It's just too stupid for me to handle. So, Flip, if you are reading, figure it out dude. You are really disappointing me the past week or two. I put 2 or 3 of these losses squarely on your shoulders although you have clearly inherited a weak minded team whose psyche is apparently way too damaged with differing agendas.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:37 AM | Report abuse

The sad part is when Foye leaves next year as a free agent and goes somewhere like Miami and becames an All-Star.

Posted by: lemekdivine | December 15, 2009 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Hey, look at it this way. The Skins have turned into a tough out and a team you can actually root for again albeit in a lovable losers sort of way. Maybe the same will happen with this team...lol!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Man, I can definitely relate to and like basketball better. But, I kind of wish I had the NHL package instead. Watching the Caps is never a form of self loathing.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Will someone please explain why they think Ernie is a good GM.

The Clippers asked for the people on here to quit calling the Wizards the Clippers of the east!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 15, 2009 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Boykins is not the reason they lost this game. Everybody on the floor was missing shots and playing bad D when the Clippers made their run. After Arenas came back, the Clippers continued their run and took the lead. After Arenas fouled out and Boykins came in, the Wizards closed the lead to two points before the Clippers pulled away.

I'm not a particular fan of the little guy, but scapegoating him as the cause of this team's problems is silly. Their problems run long and deep and were well visible before he ever put on a Wizards jersey.

But if you really want a whipping boy, how about the much vaunted colossus that is Brendan Haywood? He got bent over the scorer's table by Kaman, while throwing up bricks from the field (4-10 shooting) like a volunteer for Habitat for Humanity. (Although he does get a gold star for finally, after almost a decade in the league, figuring out that when you're 7 feet tall it's a good idea to hold the offensive rebounds up above your head instead of bringing them down around your knees for the little guys to swipe at. Bravo big man, bravo). (And for those of you still whippin' the skippy at the altar of the all-mighty +/-, I will point out that Haywood was +4 and Kaman was -4).

Honestly, though, I don't see where all the angst is coming from. The simple fact of the matter is that, right now, the Clippers are a better team than the Wiz. They were playing at home against a team that lost 4 in a row. They were supposed to win this game.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 15, 2009 1:51 AM | Report abuse

glass half full view- all these gut wrenching losses have been crazy close, down to a couple FTs or 1 possession. Slight improvement in any area could have meant 5-2 this month rather than 2-5.

of course, that doesnt change the actual record

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:52 AM | Report abuse

The problem with the whole rose-colored glasses analysis is that "we're right there if we can just get over the hump" is the same weak excuse the core players have been throwing out there in response to years of close losses and bad losses to bad teams. This isn't a new phenomenon. It gets old and stale after a while.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 15, 2009 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Anybody think Mark Jackson would have this Team playing better?

I tell you this though, if I was a Wizard player that had to look at Flip's face I would be in a continuance state of confusion.

The look on his face is horrible. He looks like some Halloween character on the sideline.

With that horrific look of his, how can he ever give confidence to his players.

He looks like he is crying on the sideline without the tears.

His look is so bad, every time a player looks over at him, turnover, he scares the stinky out of them.

Poor Flip.

I told you guys Mark would be better.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 15, 2009 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Flip is weaksauce with all the random DNP's he throws at Mcgee and Dom. He was screaming at Javale coming off the floor at end of the Pacers loss and you just KNEW mcgee wouldnt see 1 second tonight.

Kaman was killing haywood, but let's not put our long, athletic center in there because.....what exactly?

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 1:59 AM | Report abuse

"I told you guys Mark would be better."

You tell us a lot of things. But since Mark Jackson has not coached a single nanosecond of NBA ball, that (like much of what you tell us) has no provable basis in fact.

"Kaman was killing haywood, but let's not put our long, athletic center in there because.....what exactly? "

As bad as it was with Haywood in, it could have gotten worse with McGee. McGee hasn't had much success defending big, strong back-to-the basket scorers in the paint. He's not strong enough to keep them out of the paint and he overcompensates by either (A) reaching and committing bad fouls or (B) biting on pump fakes trying to block every shot.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 15, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Kaman hit numerous Js of the variety Haywood wont come out and challenge, and Mcgee blocks shots whenever he is on the floor. Many of Kaman's moves are actually similar to Haywood's oafish strides around the basket and the type of stuff mcgee can handle.

i honestly think mcgee didnt play 1min because of the last play (the .1 sec he was in the game) against indiana. That type of coaching worries me, but we'll see

Posted by: divi3 | December 15, 2009 2:09 AM | Report abuse

wow...this is almost shocking, funny...if it wasn't so sad...this team is better than this. i truly believe that...maybe they've done something to offend God? i don't know...i have no answers. THREE all-stars, 20+ games= 7 wins????? i know flip is trippin' on this...from the outside looking in you say sure i'll coach this team...3 all-stars, a 7 footer at center...two vet free agents w/talent...some young players w/potential...this is a no-brainer right??? RIGHT??? (man i really wanna root for the wiz-i love the sport, the team...just wanna see them prosper)...no answers for this...just totally lost.

Posted by: ronniecope106 | December 15, 2009 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Ummm....your dead wrong on this one Kal. He might not be THE reason we have lost any game, but he deserves to play zero mins. He does nothing well on the court and as the supposed leader of the second unit, he is terrible. Look at the +/- tonight. All the starters were well into + territory and all the subs were a big - Boykins being the second worst. Don't pretend that as the PG of the second unit he is not a big problem. No pun intended. He was an emergency replacement when Foye went down and deserves to return to that role. Is it his fault he is played? Of course not. But, again, he should not be playing and that is where my frustration resides. That, and all the over glorification he gets for performing well in two games. Great.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 2:15 AM | Report abuse

"Many of Kaman's moves are actually similar to Haywood's oafish strides around the basket and the type of stuff mcgee can handle."

That's just ridiculous. Kamen is a very skilled offensive player who can score in a variety of ways with either hand. Haywood is a bricklaying disaster on offense. Any resemblance between them is purely coincidental. Also, as he showed in this game, Kamen can put the ball on the floor and pass on the move (4 assists). I'm sure Coach Dunleavy would have loved seeing him guarded by a guy he knows will a launch himself into the air every time Kamen arches an eyebrow 12 feet from the basket.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 15, 2009 2:16 AM | Report abuse

The fact that Mark Jackson has not coached a single nanosecond of NBA ball does not necessarily mean that it is provable that he would not be more successful than Flip at the point.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 15, 2009 2:17 AM | Report abuse

"Ummm....your dead wrong on this one Kal. He might not be THE reason we have lost any game,but he deserves to play zero mins."

Ummm . . . (I love it when people start a post like that, like it's all cool and sh@t), but if I said he wasn't the reason we lost the game and you just agreed with me, how, exactly, am I wrong? Because I never said anything related to any of that other crap you said, so I couldn't have been wrong about that. All I said was that he's not the reason we lost the game. And you agreed.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 15, 2009 2:19 AM | Report abuse

The only way he can prove himself to be a better coach than Saunders is to become a coach and be better than Saunders. He's not a coach and never has been, so he has had no chance to prove himself better than anyone. So, as of this moment, there is no basis in provable fact that Jackson would be a better coach than Flip. Could that change if/when Jackson becomes a coach? Sure. But it hasn't happened yet. Get back to me when it does.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 15, 2009 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Ok Larry. There is also zero proof that he would be better. So what is your point?

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Well since you can't see the nuance, it's not his fault he is played but he is not playing well and his unit is losing leads that the starters build. So he is a big part of the problem in all these losses. Playing him less to not at all will increase our chance of winning. So, again, he is not THE problem but definitely a problem. In his case, the solution is very easy, play Foye!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 15, 2009 2:32 AM | Report abuse

right now peeps all this entire organization is on below-average status. The organization, the coaches, training staff, players...all of them! the scary thing is that there is probably no PLAYER or combination of PLAYERS or COACHING philopsophy that can "right" this ship. it truly looks like the answer(s) to turning this "train-wreck" around is not in the wizards organization...oh, hold up...wait a minute...listen...can you hear it, it's faint but if you listen real close you can hear it..."there's always next year"...now where have i heard that before (redskin park maybe)!

Posted by: ronniecope106 | December 15, 2009 3:08 AM | Report abuse

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