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Arenas comments on gun reports

A larger than usual media contingent arrived at Verizon Center today amid reports that Gilbert Arenas was involved in a dispute with teammate Javaris Crittenton in which guns were involved. I caught Arenas as he walked into the locker room after practice on Friday and he didn't confirm or deny a dispute with Crittenton, but he dismissed the report in the New York Post that the two players pulled guns on each other in the locker room.

Arenas threatened to file a lawsuit against the New York Post, later saying, "That's not the real story."

While walking away, Arenas was asked what he thought about the story. He laughed and said, "I saw the story. Very compelling. Some real O.K. Corral [stuff]." He later wrote on his Twitter account, "i wake up this morning and seen i was the new JOHN WAYNE..lmao media is too funny."

A few hours later Arenas added another statement via Twitter: "i understand this is serious..but if u ever met me you know i dont do serious things im a goof ball this story today dont sound goofy to me."

Arenas may have taken a humorous approach to the allegations, but this situation is beyond serious, given the gun laws in the District of Columbia and the NBA's intolerance for gun possession on league property. League spokesperson Tim Frank said that the NBA doesn't plan any disciplinary action until the legal investigation is completed.

"There is an active investigation by D.C. law enforcement authorities, which we are monitoring closely," Frank said in an e-mailed statement. "We are not taking any independent action at this time."

When contacted by phone on Friday, Arenas's father, Gilbert Sr., also denied that Arenas and Crittenton pulled weapons on each other. "From the respect of guns being pulled in the locker room and at each other, yes, that's ludicrous," Arenas Sr. said. "Him bringing the locker room to keep away from his kids, that's true. Gil did not pull a guy on anybody. That's about all that I can say."

Coach Flip Saunders declined to comment on the situation, but he said that Arenas may not be available for the game on Saturday against the San Antonio Spurs after developing some soreness in his left knee this week.

By Michael Lee  |  January 1, 2010; 6:37 PM ET
 
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The truth always comes out, and this will be no exception.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 1, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

The sad thing is that most logical people wouldn't put it past Gilby to do something stupid like this.

Gilby doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Whether or not he pulled a gun, the point is that the gun(s) shouldn't have been there to begin with.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"A few hours later Arenas added another statement via Twitter: "i understand this is serious..but if u ever met me you know i dont do serious things im a goof ball this story today dont sound goofy to me.""

Time to grow up moron....you have 3 kids now.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Any chance there's a clause in Arenas' contract that would void it based on this type of action/behavior?

If we could rid ourselves of his contract without the cap hit that could be huge.

Just trying to put a positive spin on an otherwise negative situation.

Posted by: snoopylad | January 1, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Does Arenas recognize that he's looking at the possibility of 5+ years in prison? If not longer? Hard time?

Not to mention the loss of millions of dollars?

Locked away from your family, your friends and your livelihood?

Mr. Arenas, if by some strange reason you're reading this, wake up!

Posted by: SteveMG | January 1, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

There's plenty of time and reason to wait until the facts come out. It's interesting to note that Saunders may sit Arenas tomorrow night because of "knee soreness." Why not let this play out rather than jump to conclusions?

Posted by: walterpearce | January 1, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

If you're Gilby, too bad Johnny Cochran's dead.

Billy Martin couldn't keep Vick out of jail.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

"There's plenty of time and reason to wait until the facts come out. It's interesting to note that Saunders may sit Arenas tomorrow night because of "knee soreness." Why not let this play out rather than jump to conclusions?

Posted by: walterpearce | January 1, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse "

Seems clear that Gilby brought gun(s) to VC. What more facts do you need?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

4 days ago, I posted on here that it would only be a matter of time before GA mysteriously starts missing games and maybe the season. He is too "proud" to be the centerpiece on a junk team.
Well, this is happening much earlier than I thought it would...

Posted by: Utilityman1 | January 1, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

If you're Gilby, too bad Johnny Cochran's dead.

Billy Martin couldn't keep Vick out of jail.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 7:08 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm sorry to sound harsh but do you ever think before you write all these negative (and juvenile) things about "Gilby," "MeTawn," or "MeShawn?" Is it asking too much of you to use their real names?

What you write above is borderline racist and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Let the legal process work its way through before you condemn anyone.

And, grow up.

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 1, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Arenas' father is obviously fat and happy on the payroll. His son brought guns to the locker room to keep them away from the kids? Like that was his only option?

No wonder Gilbert is a mess. Happy Fathers Day, you dope. Time to put your prodigal son in lockdown.

Posted by: howjensen | January 1, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 1, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

There's a huge difference between transporting guns and giving them to security for safety purposes (unloaded), as opposed to pulling a loaded firearm on someone in the locker room. The the latter is false, then i have no problems and Gilbert is due an apology by the NYPost and the other tabloids. He stated that the Shaq drama was all false also. So perhaps the media should not rush to print these stories.

Posted by: washwiz | January 1, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Just like THE USA, People always jumping to play Judge Mathis before they know ALL of the facts! People already claiming he's guilty just like any other case in AMERICAN history before someone heads to court or before the real story comes to the forefront! People please stop talking about getting rid of his contract, he's gonna get locked up for 5 years ( by the way...You have to be a convicted felon to get 5 years for a carrying a gun) Gilbert's not a convicted felon! Chill out people! Stop convicting the man before the truth comes out! GEEEE WIZZZZZ! Bunch of GROUPIES!

Posted by: rf2litenva | January 1, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

He's not going to get 5+ years in prison. Lonny Baxter got three months for actually firing a gun near the White House. Calm down Beavis.

Posted by: mike8 | January 1, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"There's a huge difference between transporting guns and giving them to security for safety purposes (unloaded), as opposed to pulling a loaded firearm on someone in the locker room."

If Gil actually pointed a loaded gun at Critt in the lockeroom during a heated argument, it's hard to believe the organization wouldnt have been way out in front of this. They've had practices together since the 21st right? Hard to envision they were on the verge of killing each other, but are ok now.

You can definitely envision Gil pointing an unloaded gun at someone, dumb ass that he is.

guess we'll see over the next few weeks...

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

He's not going to get 5+ years in prison. Lonny Baxter got three months for actually firing a gun near the White House. Calm down Beavis

Sorry, if you can't see the difference between firing a gun in the air and allegedly (again, allegedly) pointing one at another person I don't know what to tell you.

He's facing some serious charges and his attitude doesn't seem to reflect that he understands that.

Apparently, you think this is just something to dimiss as well. Boys will be boys, sorta' thing.

This is part of the problem. A cavalier juvenile attitude towards serious acts.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 1, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

The big story here is the soreness in Gil's knee. It's the only known fact. The other stuff is conjecture and rumor at this point.

The organization should do exactly what it's doing at this point...nothing.

FYI...

Voting 250 for and 171 against, the House of Representatives on Sept. 29 passed The District of Columbia Personal Protection Act (HR 3193) repealing the District of Columbia's gun control laws.


Owning an unregistered firearm is a misdemeanor in DC even BEFORE the repeal officially happens. Legally, it's no worse than driving while drunk and we know how often that happens to athletes.

Posted by: original_mark | January 1, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Correct, I believe the organization would have been all over it, if the guns were loaded in a heated argument. That's why I believe Gilbert's father, there may have been an argument, but guns were not involved.

Posted by: washwiz | January 1, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's see: illegal possession of guns (multiple), transporting guns into the city, illegal to travel through DC with an unregistered gun, all firearms in the city must be unloaded and unassembled, pointing/displaying a gun at another person....

If this is all true - if, if, if - Mr. Arenas is facing a heckuva lot more than 3 months like Baxter did.


Posted by: SteveMG | January 1, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I came hard based on the assumption that the report was true. Now it appears that there is a equal possibility that the report is not true.

And now Gilbert is saying the Shack thing wasn't true.

And DC_Man88 has already allowed folks to kiss his boots.

I think I'm gonna go with the wait and see crowd.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 1, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see how they play sans-Arenas.

Posted by: JBuss | January 1, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

so is Gil finally in Attack Mode?

Posted by: Max231 | January 1, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

NBATV reports a locker dispute between Arenas and Crit but make no mention of guns.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 1, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

The drama never seems to end with this guy. Cut the strings already !

Posted by: dashriprock | January 1, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The smoke screen BS in this story is that he bought the guns to VC to protect his newborn child. Does a new born need protection from a gun? If his other children weren't in danger before the newborn came and now they are, then this excuse is just something to throw everyone off the real deal. he brought the gun to work because he didn't feel safe and if he used it to confront a team mate, then he is as ignorant as you want to make him to be. the sore knee story is also BS because after this story and with saunders going off saying he would play players who play defense then we all know that would leave gilbert out. Gun story, horrable defense, pretty convenient time to now sit him. sore knee my arse! Another me first, wannabe thug making miilions with the common sense of a rock. I'm sure when he and his agent were negotiating that 111 million contract he said i deserve this money but i am a gun toting, goof-ball who you all know plays no defense. I say release him because at the end of the day, he is just another me first cancer on a team. Cut him now, he will never put the team first and himself second. hey gilbert, you dumb -arse, take that other me first cancer portis with you when you leave town....

Posted by: klangley69 | January 1, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe we gave this clown $111 million.

Everything is just a big chuckling joke to this goofball.

He's gonna end up like Plaxico - incarcerated because he's stupid.

Posted by: p1funk | January 1, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

"The smoke screen BS in this story is that he bought the guns to VC to protect his newborn child. Does a new born need protection from a gun? If his other children weren't in danger before the newborn came and now they are, then this excuse is just something to throw everyone off the real deal. he brought the gun to work because he didn't feel safe and if he used it to confront a team mate, then he is as ignorant as you want to make him to be. the sore knee story is also BS because after this story and with saunders going off saying he would play players who play defense then we all know that would leave gilbert out. Gun story, horrable defense, pretty convenient time to now sit him. sore knee my arse! Another me first, wannabe thug making miilions with the common sense of a rock. I'm sure when he and his agent were negotiating that 111 million contract he said i deserve this money but i am a gun toting, goof-ball who you all know plays no defense. I say release him because at the end of the day, he is just another me first cancer on a team. Cut him now, he will never put the team first and himself second. hey gilbert, you dumb -arse, take that other me first cancer portis with you when you leave town....

Posted by: klangley69 | January 1, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse "

You'd figure a guy who's due to cash in on at least $170 mil total just in NBA salary could hire a couple of rent-a-cops for the rest of his life.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

"I'm sorry to sound harsh but do you ever think before you write all these negative (and juvenile) things about "Gilby," "MeTawn," or "MeShawn?" Is it asking too much of you to use their real names?

What you write above is borderline racist and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Let the legal process work its way through before you condemn anyone.

And, grow up.

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 1, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse "

Latest news is that Gilby wasn't packing heat, but just a few super soakers sans tap water.

BTW, I don't create the negativity...I just report it.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

You'd figure a guy who's due to cash in on at least $170 mil total just in NBA salary could hire a couple of rent-a-cops for the rest of his life.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse


I've always gotten a big kick out of the whole "I carry around a handgun for personal protection" baloney that athletes spit out.

It's just ludicrous. So let me play this out.

Gilbert Arenas is walking down the street leaving a restaraunt late at night. He goes to the corner and hails a cab. Out of the shadows an armed robber emerges and points a pistol at GA and says "Give me your cash and jewelry". Gil's reaction? He whips out his pistol and has a shootout on the street corner?!?!?


Posted by: p1funk | January 1, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"4 days ago, I posted on here that it would only be a matter of time before GA mysteriously starts missing games and maybe the season. He is too "proud" to be the centerpiece on a junk team.
Well, this is happening much earlier than I thought it would...

Posted by: Utilityman1 | January 1, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse "

Good.

Maybe Les BouleS will start playing as a team and start winning again.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Pollin and EG knew about the wackiness of GA before they gave him nearly a max contract. So "we have met the enemy and it is us" comes into play.

It would be nice if GA is proving guilty of some offense that we could void this contract and use the money on other players. Can't wait to see the starters at next game. When is Miller coming back? Wasn't it supposed to be pior to Christmas?

Posted by: fearturtle44 | January 1, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I've always gotten a big kick out of the whole "I carry around a handgun for personal protection" baloney that athletes spit out.

"It's just ludicrous. So let me play this out.

Gilbert Arenas is walking down the street leaving a restaraunt late at night. He goes to the corner and hails a cab. Out of the shadows an armed robber emerges and points a pistol at GA and says "Give me your cash and jewelry". Gil's reaction? He whips out his pistol and has a shootout on the street corner?!?!?"

athletes? what you described is the attitude of a huge portion of the country, just ask the nra

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert doesn't appear to understand the seriousness of what he could potentially be facing. Not only might he have given the team cause to void his contract, he also could be looking at some significant jail time. He violated league policy on having weapons on league property so he faces disciplinary action there. He might be getting nailed by the team, the league, the city and the Feds for transporting weapons into the district. This cat's elevator seems to be stuck between floors....

Posted by: randysbailin | January 1, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Pulling out your piece is fine as long as you live in VA and have a concealed weapon license.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Gilbert is getting a good roasting today, even from me, but I am kinda' flummoxed that the story isn't confirmed yet and Gilbert is acting like it is made up.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 1, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse "

Pay attention.

Gilby is not denying that he brought a weapon into DC and into VC.

What he is evasive about is whether he pulled it out on JCritt when JCritt wanted his money.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

@P1funk,

I with you on people carrying guns for personal protection. Get a license, and if it is concealed don't you still have to have a legal authorization to carry a concealed weapon, i.e. your job or something like that.

Any willy nilly should not have to carry a gun around. If you really think about it just as you have described it can only lead to bad things.

I just read a report that Crit reached for a gun after Gilbert drew on him. Amazing.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 1, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

"4 days ago, I posted on here that it would only be a matter of time before GA mysteriously starts missing games and maybe the season. He is too "proud" to be the centerpiece on a junk team.
Well, this is happening much earlier than I thought it would...

Posted by: Utilityman1 | January 1, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse "

Good.

Maybe Les BouleS will start playing as a team and start winning again.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Good, but the team still has to pony up the $90 mill still owed to him.
Good, but the team will still be in cap hell the next 5 years. I really can't think of any (and I mean ANY)other team in the league with as much inexistent upside.
Thanks and great job Ernie, you have alot of admirers on here though. It's not your fault, a very old dying man forced you to hand out millions to these losers....Not your fault at all, just sleep well.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | January 1, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

"Good, but the team still has to pony up the $90 mill still owed to him.
Good, but the team will still be in cap hell the next 5 years. I really can't think of any (and I mean ANY)other team in the league with as much inexistent upside.
Thanks and great job Ernie, you have alot of admirers on here though. It's not your fault, a very old dying man forced you to hand out millions to these losers....Not your fault at all, just sleep well.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | January 1, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse "

Just win baby...

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

you'd like to think they both knew the guns werent loaded and were just being idiots.

and you know the organization is dregs when that's your best case scenario

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

"you'd like to think they both knew the guns werent loaded and were just being idiots.

and you know the organization is dregs when that's your best case scenario

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse "

Somebody in the locker room must have snitched.

Didn't they watch Carmelo's "Don't be a snitch video?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnaoVV46hk4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8q9m2z3e4g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43XJOb6dmJA&feature=fvw

Only Johnny Cochran and Billy Martin could defend this.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

At least we know who the regular NY Post readers are. About who you would have figured.

I don't recall anybody setting Arenas up as much of a role model, except maybe for goofballs. The only stuff you heard around here was about his basketball skills -- once exemplary, now apparently declined. Hard to imagine anyone being particularly surprised that he'd crossed the line from dumb behavior to outright stupidity. Assuming he has...

So what we're seeing now is typical behavior: inveterate Arenasophobes crowing triumph, Gilbert's usual defenders mysteriously absent, and assorted others piling on. The team and the NBA have taken a position of studied neutrality, no doubt on the advice of counsel. Next week they'll be revising their strat plans, considering whether they can void bad contracts (which most Wiz contracts appear to be), modeling settlement packages, looking for a positive spin on an unpleasant season.

Me, I plan to reserve judgment until somebody other than the NY Post and Yahoo Sports gets a chance to report on the situation.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 1, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 1, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

By the way, when I say I'm hoping for some serious reportage on the situation, I don't mean the Post's Sports Yentas, Sally Jenkins and Tracee Hamilton, or Gossip Girl Mike Wise. If they're the best the paper has to offer, they might as well close down the sports desk entirely.

Except for Boz, of course, at least during baseball season.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 1, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

was Critt's buddy actually in the lockeroom? or just relating what Critt told him?

pay that dude off, and gil/critt can come up with whatever story they want.

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

"By the way, when I say I'm hoping for some serious reportage on the situation, I don't mean the Post's Sports Yentas, Sally Jenkins and Tracee Hamilton, or Gossip Girl Mike Wise. If they're the best the paper has to offer, they might as well close down the sports desk entirely.

Except for Boz, of course, at least during baseball season.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 1, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse "

Don't forget the head black professional athlete apologist....Mike Wilbon.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

"Don't forget the head black professional athlete apologist....Mike Wilbon.

Posted by: DC_MAN88"

jason whitlock will give you what you're looking for.

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

David Aldridge, a solid reporter, writes:
While the details are not yet clear, the substance of what was reported Friday by Yahoo! Sports and the New York Post -- that Arenas had a confrontation in the Wizards' locker room late last month with teammate Javaris Crittenton in which both players had guns in their hands -- was confirmed Friday by a league source.

Confirmed by a league source.

And:
Regardless of the details, though, Arenas could be in a world of trouble -- with the District and Federal governments, with the league and with the Wizards

Illegally transporting a weapon(s) across state lines. Oy. FBI time.

Federal laws, district laws, NBA rules, teams rules.....

Posted by: SteveMG | January 1, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

"jason whitlock will give you what you're looking for.

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse "

I find Wilbon more disgusting.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Can someone get a quote from Irene Pollin?

After all, she's still the owner.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

whitlock is the anti-wilbon, hates black athletes and their "hip-hop, thug, culture"

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

When's the next George Michael going step up and give us the scoop?

Somebody call David Dupree.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

"whitlock is the anti-wilbon, hates black athletes and their "hip-hop, thug, culture"

Posted by: divi3 | January 1, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse "

Can you blame him?

What's hip-hop left with when you remove sex, bling, cars, houses, money, etc. from the lyrics?

Just a good beat.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere out there....

....I can hear Stevie "Big Cheeks" Buckhantz screaming

SWADAGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

to the season upon hearing of Gilby's BS.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert's explanation of how he brought the guns to his locker to protect his kids ranks up there w/ Tiger's explanation of how his luscious wife heroically saved his life w/ a 9 iron...

Posted by: randysbailin | January 1, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Laura likes to date clowns...Shaq, Gilby, etc.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

The real question here is why a New York newspaper was able to get this story and not our local Washington paper??!!

Certainly doesn't bode well for us in the future. Our guys and gals can't even get the stuff that's right under their noses.
Geez.

Posted by: dovelevine | January 1, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I am going to reserve judgment until there's a statement of charges detailing probable cause or an indictment.

And why are all of the out of town media making it appear as if theirs a "federal government" issue here. Gil is not going to be charged federally, i.e., for violating a federal statute(s). The US Attorney's office is involved because it prosecutes violations of DC criminal law. The case, if any, will be captioned DC v. Arenas not US v. Arenas.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 1, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

What's hip-hop left with when you remove sex, bling, cars, houses, money, etc. from the lyrics?

Just a good beat.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Spoken by someone who has no idea what they're talking about...but this isn't a music blog so...yeah.

I wonder what's gonna come out next.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 1, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

"Spoken by someone who has no idea what they're talking about...but this isn't a music blog so...yeah.

I wonder what's gonna come out next.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 1, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse "

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about...hip hop/rap or Les BouleS.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

"The US Attorney's office is involved because it prosecutes violations of DC criminal law."

Regardless of what the poster said about Lonnie Baxter towards the beginning of this blog, Arenas *could* be looking at 5 years minimum.

If someone wants to make an example out of him, he's in for a very rough 2010.

It really is time for that guy to grow up.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 1, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

"by the way...You have to be a convicted felon to get 5 years for a carrying a gun"

No, in DC it's very tough because they have some of the toughest in the country wheras in VA it's pretty soft.

It's 5 years minimum.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 1, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry last one....

If you brandish a gun at someone that's considered an assult with a deadly weapon in DC and 5 years.

Again, Gil better grow up and grow up fast.

Sorry, wanted to clear that up.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 1, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 1, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about...hip hop/rap or Les BouleS.

Sure. I don't know anything about rap. If you think that's all there is to the music than you're more of a jackass than I thought...if that's even possible.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 1, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

So is Mike Miller coming back to the lineup tomorrow?

He was interviewed on Channel 4 a few minutes ago and he had on his practice sweats.

Posted by: elfreako | January 1, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

"Seems clear that Gilby brought gun(s) to VC. What more facts do you need?"

Facts about what actually happened might be nice.

"Sorry, if you can't see the difference between firing a gun in the air and allegedly (again, allegedly) pointing one at another person I don't know what to tell you."

The difference is that pointing a gun (that may not have even been loaded) at someone and not firing is a much less serious offense than actually firing one in public. Don't believe it? Ask Plaxico Burress. He's doing prison time for firing a gun in a public place, even though the gun wasn't actually pointed at anyone and the only person he hit was himself.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 1, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

The real question here is why a New York newspaper was able to get this story and not our local Washington paper??!!

Certainly doesn't bode well for us in the future. Our guys and gals can't even get the stuff that's right under their noses.
Geez.

That presumes the NY paper got the story right, which is hardly a given where the NY Post is concerned.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 1, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from the highlight factory(Phillips Arena) watching Hawks vs Knicks where Nate(the great)Robinson just dropped 40 plus(off the bench!)against the Hawks that lead to a NY victory, in one of the best performances i've ever seen and to think he was in Mike D'Atonni's dog house, about two weeks ago there was talk that the Knicks were trying to trade Nate, there has been serious friction between Robinson and D'Antonni over PT and philosophy(basketball that is)love to see him in a Wiz/Bullet uniform but we don't have a GM smart enough to recognize those little nuances of being a GM after all he let Roger Mason Jr.get away,oh yeah that was part of his plan to undermine EJ and to grease the skids for Jordan demise, oh yeah Ernie that's workin out real good for us fans by the way what's our record since you fired Jordan? LMAO!

Posted by: dargregmag | January 1, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

love to see him in a Wiz/Bullet uniform but we don't have a GM smart enough to recognize those little nuances of being a GM after all he let Roger Mason Jr.get away,oh yeah that was part of his plan to undermine EJ and to grease the skids for Jordan demise, oh yeah Ernie that's workin out real good for us fans by the way what's our record since you fired Jordan? LMAO!

Posted by: dargregmag | January 1, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Good to see you Coach Jordan. Glad you could catch a game since the Sixers had an off night. Sorry you think that Roger Mason is the reason you couldn't get it done. Ok bye.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 1, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I can hear Flip now saying 'Let's concentrate on the Spurs game, playing some D and turning things around...'

FAT CHANCE of that now! Thanks Gil and Javaris! Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009-2010 Wasington Wizards!

Ok fine. While we're at it can we please pass the hat to pay this Crittenton cretin his money?

Posted by: fenderdeluxe | January 1, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

DAMN the gunfight BS. What's up with this knee soreness? now that's a concern.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 1, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I feel bad for Mike Miller. After all those years on lottery teams in Memphis and Minnesota, he came here thinking this was his shot at making some postseason noise. Now he's trapped in this nightmare of a 3-ring circus sans whip or chair.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 1, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

If this incident actually happened and league office had proof of it, then how come they didn't immediately suspend both players? Doesn't that seem a bit odd to you?

Posted by: pjkiger1 | January 2, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Uncle Ted should just Nylander the both of them don't care the outcome the team sucks they need to rebuild. UT must be pissed at this and I know that this kind of thing wont be put up with

Posted by: t-bone67 | January 2, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

This is just ridiculous. First, we are the joke of the league. And now this. I say suspend both players pending the investigation. We do know Arenas brought guns to the locker room. So that's already a violation. I say void his contract and kick him off the team. It's not like they are kicking butt on the court anyway.

Posted by: tundey | January 2, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Here is some of todays new york post story enjoy

The Washington Wizards never told the NBA that two of its players drew guns on each other in a locker-room dispute over a gambling debt, sources said yesterday.

It was only after The Post's inquiries more than a week after the Dec. 21 incident that league officials found out about the unprecedented alleged armed standoff between All-Star Gilbert Arenas and teammate Javaris Crittenton inside the Verizon Center in DC.

That stunning gun duel now threatens to end the Wizard careers of not only the two point guards -- who stand to lose millions of dollars in pay -- but also of general manager Ernie Grunfeld, a former star Knicks player and president.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/nba_team_hSzEijqYqD45gZL2B78TsK#ixzz0bSnGlLQ9

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

It's clear this team's focus is not on basketball. They'll get blown away by the Spurs by at least 20 points.

Gilbert Arenas is a big distraction and honestly, he is not that good anyway. He hasn't changed as a player. He's still taking bad shots. And he plays zero defense. It would be best to get rid of him. It's obvious this team can't win when their "big three" are healthy, like Grunfeld always assumed. Bottom line is this team can't win with the players they have right now. And I'm sick of people talking about how this team is losing because they have injured players and everything will be fine once that player comes back. They've been using that excuse on us for years. This team is better with Mike Miller but is he actually going to make that much of a difference? Him coming back doesn't change the fact that no one on this team plays defense.

Posted by: rachel216 | January 2, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"I feel bad for Mike Miller."

I do too but he's an UFA so he won't be around next year.

He's probably the best all around player the Wiz have right now too. :(

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 2, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

ESPN has more info:

"Sources: Dispute began over card game"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4789650

Where the heck is Mike Lee at???

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 2, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Rachel216: I understand what you're saying but let's wait until all the facts are in before we try and convict either one of these players,you would think that both Javaris and Gil should both be more focused on their respective ability than some silly gambling debt, I'd be looking send Crit packing(pardon the pun) as soon as he's able to play,now let me get this straight you're not playing(but getting paid) and you're worried about some assinine bet you made with the team goofball instead of focusing on your rehab, yeah you need to go as soon as possible.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 2, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

More facts...and it's slowly coming out:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4789650

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 2, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

The bad thing about blogs and post non informed people get to voice their opinions. Gils got some issues he needs to workout. This team has issues bigger than Gil and that's what we need to be writing about. Gil could go and this team would still suck. It still is not going to get anymore of my money until changes are made at the top. Leadership starts at the top.

Posted by: rnbrown4 | January 2, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

DAMN the gunfight BS. What's up with this knee soreness? now that's a concern.

I read that the room service on the Titanic as it went down was just lousy.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 2, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

"I read that the room service on the Titanic as it went down was just lousy.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 2, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse "

Amen.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"The bad thing about blogs and post non informed people get to voice their opinions. Gils got some issues he needs to workout. This team has issues bigger than Gil and that's what we need to be writing about. Gil could go and this team would still suck. It still is not going to get anymore of my money until changes are made at the top. Leadership starts at the top.

Posted by: rnbrown4 | January 2, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse "

And clearly Gilby's latest drama is yet again, another unnecessary distraction caused by Gilby.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"Arenas's attitude profoundly affects the Wizards' game, not the least because Arenas is clearly keeping a scoresheet in his head the entire game. It also affects ball distribution: If Arenas doesn't think a teammate can score, that teammate is less likely to get a pass, because Arenas is less likely to get the assist. That's not the hallmark of a floor leader, and it's certainly not going to win him any friends among his teammates.

Neither, of course, is coming strapped into the locker room.

It's been clear since the beginning of the season that Arenas is confused, even troubled. He declared that he would no longer talk to the media. That didn't last. He declared that Agent Zero and Hibachi were dead. That didn't last. He declared he wouldn't Twitter. That didn't last. He calls out his teammates with vague insults such as "The players who care are frustrated. The players who don't, don't care." He made remarks about fellow captain Caron Butler after one practice that led Butler to call him and demand an explanation. Once, his veiled references to "hidden agendas" among his teammates during a postgame interview led Brendan Haywood to sing Beyonce's "Ego" in the background.

He has long seemed to crave attention, and he's about to get his wish, from the D.C. police, the feds, the media, his teammates, opponents and fans. Road games are about to become very interesting for Arenas, and of course for his teammates. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/01/AR2010010101536.html?sid=ST2010010101932


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What's the appropriate word?

How about "a cancer to the team?"

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

"Here is some of todays new york post story enjoy

The Washington Wizards never told the NBA that two of its players drew guns on each other in a locker-room dispute over a gambling debt, sources said yesterday.

It was only after The Post's inquiries more than a week after the Dec. 21 incident that league officials found out about the unprecedented alleged armed standoff between All-Star Gilbert Arenas and teammate Javaris Crittenton inside the Verizon Center in DC.

That stunning gun duel now threatens to end the Wizard careers of not only the two point guards -- who stand to lose millions of dollars in pay -- but also of general manager Ernie Grunfeld, a former star Knicks player and president.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/nba_team_hSzEijqYqD45gZL2B78TsK#ixzz0bSnGlLQ9

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse "

LMFAO!

And as I said yesterday, management hid the drama from the league, and only came clean when it blew up.

I wonder what Irene Pollin is thinking?

What a way to lower the cost/value of a franchise just before it gets bought out.

I recommend Stern, who's known to be a hard @ss, to fine Les BouleS $10mil.

Ask Cuban if Stern jokes around.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

i copied this from the new york post article

The NBA source noted that the Wizards could void the remainder of Arenas' six-year contract -- which he signed last summer -- if he is convicted of a felony. About $100 million remains on the contract.

In stark contrast, Crittenton is owed just $1.48 million in the last year of a three-year contract.

"A team doesn't have to void the contract. It's their option," the source said. "But if a player is in jail and can't perform services, it stands to reason that the team isn't going to pay him and will cancel the contract."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/nba_team_hSzEijqYqD45gZL2B78TsK#ixzz0bT8Xh1Oh

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

"Sure. I don't know anything about rap. If you think that's all there is to the music than you're more of a jackass than I thought...if that's even possible.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 1, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse "

I'd say conservatively speaking, about 95% of mainstream rap/hip hop is no more than yapping about money, guns, houses, bling, whips, b!tches, wh0res, drugs, etc.

If you can prove otherwise, go for it.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Mike, get a quote from Irene Pollin....see what she thinks.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

If the Wizards management knew about this incident - players having guns, brandishing them, et cetera - and didn't tell the league, this things goes up to a new level.

Or down.


Posted by: SteveMG | January 2, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

rnorris6 beat me to it.

Unless Arenas gets convicted of a crime and is sentenced to actual jail time, there's almost no chance that the Wizards will even seriously consider voiding his contract.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 2, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I'd say conservatively speaking, about 95% of mainstream rap/hip hop is no more than yapping about money, guns, houses, bling, whips, b!tches, wh0res, drugs, etc.

If you can prove otherwise, go for it.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

DANG MAN I think we agree on something after all LOL I love most all forms of music even clasical but the 2 i can not stand are rap and hard rock

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"If you can prove otherwise, go for it."

Tell you what . . . you offer some actual proof (as opposed to your "conservative" estimate) for your claim first, then we'll see about proving the counter claim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 2, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

This is for Pee Gee Larry:

"Crittenton has not played all season because of a left ankle injury that has bothered him since last summer. He had exploratory surgery in his foot two months ago and recently experienced a setback when the team was on its Western Conference trip. He recently flew to Indianapolis to get a second opinion on his foot. The Wizards declined to pick up Crittenton's fourth-year option in late October and he will be a free agent next summer. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/01/AR2010010101854.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

More stupidity:

"According to two sources close to the team, Crittenton and Arenas had a disagreement on the team plane on the Wizards flight from Phoenix on Dec. 19. The reason for the dispute is unclear, but it may have been over a card game.

A person who has spoken with Arenas recently said that the incident involving Crittenton was "nothing more than horseplay" and that there was never any intent to physically harm Crittenton. The person also said the argument between Arenas and Crittenton was over "who had the bigger gun."
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And other players on this team are clearly fed up:

"Regardless of the circumstances, one player said Friday that the entire incident made him feel uncomfortable because the locker room is considered "sacred." "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/01/AR2010010101854_2.html?sid=ST2010010101932

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Yesterday it was "Boogie Ball" who witnessed this.
Now more "unnamed" sources are speaking up.
There had to be several people in the locker room when this went down.
Apparently Gil isn't loved by every one of the Wizzies which means that there will be a lot of stories to sort through. This could take a while.
Gonna be interesting when Critt makes a statement.

If this really happened I think that Stern will come down very hard on these two cowboys and the organization.

Wow! What a season so far. And we thought it couldn't get any worse.


Posted by: VBFan | January 2, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

If the front office people like Grunfeld and Newten and Sheppard knew about this confrontation (if there was a confrontation) and did not report it, then they should all be let go.. w/o pay -w/o question.
Now from whats being reported JC also had a gun!!! This culture of hiding information and covering ones own ass in Wash. has to stop one day because this has got to be be the most dysfunctional franchise ever assembled.
Grunfeld is ultimately responsible and should be called out on it.

Posted by: horace1 | January 2, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

>>The real question here is why a New York newspaper was able to get this story and not our local Washington paper??!! Certainly doesn't bode well for us in the future. Our guys and gals can't even get the stuff that's right under their noses.

>>That presumes the NY paper got the story right, which is hardly a given where the NY Post is concerned.

Well every1 including this paper is quoting them so I'm gonna give the NY Post the benefit of the doubt and ask again, Do we have to get our REAL local news from now on from New York newspapers? And where the freak was The Washington Post on this?! I thought we had guys who covered the Wiz?

Posted by: kalo_rama

Posted by: dovelevine | January 2, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

BTW another great NY Post Headline:

NBA Team Hid Run 'N' Gun

Posted by: dovelevine | January 2, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Wiz could come out smelling like a rose on this. They could void Arenas contract and drop him and also fire Ernie. Wow it may be a Happy New Year after all.

Posted by: dovelevine | January 2, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The problem here is not the gun. It's the 12 year old kid trapped in a 27 year old's body who hasn't matured one bit since his time here. Still the same old goofball Gilbert? And this is supposed to be our franchise player who is going to lead us to a title? LOL. As Denzel proclaimed in "Glory,"

TEAR IT UP! TEAR IT UP! TEAR IT UP!

Posted by: dcmc8377 | January 2, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Wiz could come out smelling like a rose on this.

The team's legacy (however small) in tatters, the management people fired in disgrace, the league likely punishing the franchise (lost picks?), the players looking like fools.

In about a decade, they'll be back on their feet.

Yeah, it's like winning the lottery.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 2, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"Tell you what . . . you offer some actual proof (as opposed to your "conservative" estimate) for your claim first, then we'll see about proving the counter claim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 2, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse "

I take it you don't know much about rap music.

What do/did rappers like Tupac, Biggie, Nas, 50 Cent, the Game, Snoop, etc. constantly yap about?

Enjoy some of these classics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gWD4g63RNI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWOsbGP5Ox4

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"In about a decade, they'll be back on their feet."

Nah.

Look what Leonsis did with the Caps.

Nearly an identical situation(pre-guns) and now the Caps are considered one of the best teams in hockey.

I expect him to do it with the Wiz also. Leonsis is one of the best owners in sports. He'll clean house before he lets anything like what's going on now happen.

Sad thing is this is just another example of Abe trusting the wrong people. :(

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 2, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I was getting hyped because Im believeing Gil’s story about it not happening, I liked that Flip called the team out, I like what I heard about the great practices, I liked what I heard about CB looking great, and with all this going on I was thinking that we might turn our season around right here tonight by beating probably the best team in the league right now with Gil & Caron playing great. Then it all goes away when I hear at the very end of the day that Flip says Gil might not play tonight because his knee is sore or something.

I think if Gil doesnt play then its bad. If its his knee then people will be on him about his contract again, espically after this gun stuff. I dont think we can beat the Spurs without him so all the stuff I talked about with Flip’s comments and turning the season around, probably goes out the window because we will lose even after all of that and guys will get down on themselves again. Then if we win without Gil, it makes the critics say that we need to find away to get rid of his contract and get him out of here. If he plays and sucks because of the knee after every thing that has went on, everyone will lay into him again and the team will be down on themselves.

Gil has to play tonight, he has to play well, and we have to look inspired as a team. A win tonight with Gil & Caron playing well would give us a big boost, espically if our D starts to look better. Anything else and it could be a bad deal

Posted by: dlts20 | January 2, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

>>The team's legacy

What freakin legacy??!! Losing every year in the first round to the Cavs? (That is of course only the years they actually make the playoffs.) Other years finishing with almost the worst record in the league. Yea don't harm that legacy whatever you do.

Posted by: dovelevine | January 2, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"If the front office people like Grunfeld and Newten and Sheppard knew about this confrontation (if there was a confrontation) and did not report it, then they should all be let go.. w/o pay -w/o question.
Now from whats being reported JC also had a gun!!! This culture of hiding information and covering ones own ass in Wash. has to stop one day because this has got to be be the most dysfunctional franchise ever assembled.
Grunfeld is ultimately responsible and should be called out on it.

Posted by: horace1 | January 2, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse "

WHO'S GONNA PULL THE TRIGGER?

IRENE?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

"Then it all goes away when I hear at the very end of the day that Flip says Gil might not play tonight because his knee is sore or something."

I don't buy it.

Personally I would like to see the Wiz play a few games w/o him on the court and see what happens.

Caron always plays his best games when Gil is not on the floor.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 2, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Question: Who is running the Wiz right now? Who would be the person to fire Ernie?

Posted by: dovelevine | January 2, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

One of the many EG bright moves was actually trading a 1st round pick for Crit.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | January 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"Caron always plays his best games when Gil is not on the floor.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 2, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse "

As does everyone else.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"Arenas's attitude profoundly affects the Wizards' game, not the least because Arenas is clearly keeping a scoresheet in his head the entire game. It also affects ball distribution: If Arenas doesn't think a teammate can score, that teammate is less likely to get a pass, because Arenas is less likely to get the assist. That's not the hallmark of a floor leader, and it's certainly not going to win him any friends among his teammates."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/01/AR2010010101536.html?sid=ST2010010101932


Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"One of the many EG bright moves was actually trading a 1st round pick for Crit.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | January 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse "

....who will become a free agent after this season, as Les BouleS declined to pick up his option.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Look what Leonsis did with the Caps.

One can't compare, it seems to me, NHL drafts and player acquisition with the NBA.

Sure, if the Wizards win the lottery two years in a row and get the top player each year, in 4-5 years they'll be competitive again.

But drafting #4-7 multiple years, unless they get lucky, doesn't work.

If they have to completely rebuild the franchise - from top to bottom - we're talking about a minimum of 5 years just to be comptetitive again.


Posted by: SteveMG | January 2, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

EG, with his FA acquisitions and trades and drafts....is right up there as bad as Snyder/Cerrato.

EG and Gilby are joined at the hip....if one must go...both must go.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

"Hard to imagine anyone being particularly surprised that he'd crossed the line from dumb behavior to outright stupidity. Assuming he has..."

If he brought his guns from gun friendly VA to highly restrictive DC to turn over to the police then he is a complete idiot.

Or more likely that's a lie.

Either way, he brought guns into the Verizon Center in violation of the CBA.

It's pretty annoying a fan: the guy's been injured for two years, it's the last chance for the "big three" and he's horsing around with guns in the locker room. Plus, now I'll never get my wife to make the trip to downtown DC to see any more games.

Posted by: Delle | January 2, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"If they have to completely rebuild the franchise - from top to bottom - we're talking about a minimum of 5 years just to be comptetitive again."

Boston did it in one offseason. the Lakers did it in just three.

I keep saying it, basketball is not rocket science. This offseason has a ton of quality UFA's available.

This is at EG's feet as much as anyone elses, he signed the players did he not?

My comment is directed towards the owner. Leonsis will not put up with this, he WILL clean house if he has to. He did it with he Caps, I'm pretty sure he's not scared to do it with the Wiz.

Best thing they can do is trade AJ and Butler at this point and hope they get a chance to void Gil's contract. The Wiz have 8 players that are free agents on thier roster.


- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 2, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Saw Tracee Hamilton pile on to the Arenas story this AM, as we all knew she would, being a member of the Sports Yenta contingent that seems to have taken over the Post's columnists. She actually managed to get in a little direct criticism of Gilbert's newfound love of assists -- always a surprise because I'm convinced Tracee doesn't actually watch the games, just reads Michael Lee's stuff and adds some sarcastic remarks.

Anyway, Tracee insists that Gilbert is so desperate to get assists that he only passes the ball to teammates who he believes can use it to score a basket. I confess I don't see much wrong with this approach, except that it doesn't appear to be working that well, since said teammates are clanking shots off the rim at almost the same rate as Gilbert himself. Maybe DeShawn Stevenson felt offended when he stopped getting opportunities to do his can't feel my face routine.

Personally, I haven't missed it.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 2, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

This is just one more instance of this goof ball, as he calls himself, contributing to the continuing negativity that surrounds this team. I hope somehow the Wizards can get rid of this guy and move on. I doubt seriously any other team would take him though!

Posted by: kpniehaus | January 2, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

So Gil claims that he and Critt were just being jaccasses, comparing gun size.

Actually sounds more likely than the report they were moments from killing each other in the locker room before practice, but then settled down and continued to see each other daily.

Also, the fact that other players were around and though understandably annoyed went with the flow....leads you to think they weren't about to shoot each other as the NYPost reported.

Regardless, not really what this dungpile of a team needs right now and we can go ahead and chalk up another "L" for tonight.

and Samson, they are ok at times, but basically I agree Jenkins and Hamilton are lousy and bring the wrong perspective given the readership of the sports page

Posted by: divi3 | January 2, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

DC_MAN88 ,

Are you referring to the same Tupac that the U of California offer's a course in??

You idiot, you have no idea what Tupac raps about and for that matter NAS as well.

It would take you YEARS to figure out
Tupac or Nas. Trust me. You are wrong including those two in your aSSessment....

Posted by: kevenjones | January 2, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow...Been away for a few days and I come back to this nonsense. I am starting to not care anymore.

Before the west coast trip I mentioned that it would be the definitive moment of the season. We needed to at least go 2-2 or there would be some kind of meltdown. Unfortunately I could not have been more accurate. Appears this all started on the plane after that horrible Suns loss.

Tonights game against Spurs seems so unimportant now. How can anyone expect us to be competitive? We know that Spurs always shift into high gear after New Year's day.

BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | January 2, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"Sure, if the Wizards win the lottery two years in a row and get the top player each year, in 4-5 years they'll be competitive again.But drafting #4-7 multiple years, unless they get lucky, doesn't work."

It would have worked pretty well the past few seasons, provided they made the right selections. That might have been Chris Paul in 2005, Brandon Roy in '06, Jeff Green in '07, Kevin Love in '08, and then Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry. Not a bad lineup.

Sure, it's not David Robinson and Tim Duncan, but it's definitely competitive.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 2, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"Before the west coast trip I mentioned that it would be the definitive moment of the season. We needed to at least go 2-2 or there would be some kind of meltdown. Unfortunately I could not have been more accurate. Appears this all started on the plane after that horrible Suns loss."

I think you're giving your intuition too much credit. The Wiz have had several horrible losses this season and any one of them would have been an opportunity for two goofballs to get into it on the plane. If the story turns out to be true as reported, it's most likely attributable to factors well beyond your psychic control.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 2, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

He's facing some serious charges and his attitude doesn't seem to reflect that he understands that.

Apparently, you think this is just something to dimiss as well. Boys will be boys, sorta' thing.

This is part of the problem. A cavalier juvenile attitude towards serious acts.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 1, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse
I don't think gil is facing any charges right now is he?

Secondly, if this really went down like this weeks ago, the why wouldn't the wiz move critt? a guy who hasn't been able to play all season running up gambling debts and carrying a gun. Gil isn't innocent by any stretch, but what is going on with critt. this guy is clinging to an nba career and pops it off with the team's "superstar". I dunno how this is gonna play out, but i'm not too threatned by gil pulling two unloaded hammers out. i mean it's super dumb to threaten a guy who's strapped when you have an unloaded gun, but i guess that's why he had the second unloaded gun right. It's hard to make sense of this story if you read a lot of the multiple reports.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 2, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

After all this, the Wizards just might win tonight.

Posted by: Delle | January 2, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to make sense of this story if you read a lot of the multiple reports.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 |

That's because we don't know the "story" and may never know it.

Someone that was in the locker room when this all transpired will eventually spill the beans.

Posted by: VBFan | January 2, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"Before the west coast trip I mentioned that it would be the definitive moment of the season. We needed to at least go 2-2 or there would be some kind of meltdown. Unfortunately I could not have been more accurate. Appears this all started on the plane after that horrible Suns loss."

I think you're giving your intuition too much credit. The Wiz have had several horrible losses this season and any one of them would have been an opportunity for two goofballs to get into it on the plane. If the story turns out to be true as reported, it's most likely attributable to factors well beyond your psychic control.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 2, 2010 1:51 PM

Intuition maybe, but I never claimed to be a phychic. Don't believe in them. I just sensed that they expected to turn things around out west and that if they didn't they would start sniping at one another. If there is anything to this gambling angle then the timing may be insignificant. But the frustration of losing was building up all year.

Posted by: stanlong23 | January 2, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

And I remember reading a post that J. Crittenton was getting more and more frustrated over the situation with his ankle not healing as fast and needing a second opinion. I remember one article, or maybe the man on Comcast saying that he was almost dispondent(sp?)over the situation and was going for a second opinion. This would, to be, make him really pressed for his money that he felt he was owed since his future was maybe in jeopardy and all?

Posted by: washwiz | January 2, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

i thought Critt owed Gil.

i also heard that Haywood is the one who broke up the dispute.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 2, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

i also heard that Haywood is the one who broke up the dispute.

Sounds like another anonymous source.

Posted by: VBFan | January 2, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Saw Tracee Hamilton pile on to the Arenas story this AM, as we all knew she would, being a member of the Sports Yenta contingent that seems to have taken over the Post's columnists. She actually managed to get in a little direct criticism of Gilbert's newfound love of assists -- always a surprise because I'm convinced Tracee doesn't actually watch the games, just reads Michael Lee's stuff and adds some sarcastic remarks.

Anyway, Tracee insists that Gilbert is so desperate to get assists that he only passes the ball to teammates who he believes can use it to score a basket. I confess I don't see much wrong with this approach, except that it doesn't appear to be working that well, since said teammates are clanking shots off the rim at almost the same rate as Gilbert himself. Maybe DeShawn Stevenson felt offended when he stopped getting opportunities to do his can't feel my face routine.

Personally, I haven't missed it.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 2, 2010 12:10 PM


Could not have said that better myself. I think it was right around the time that Kornheiser started turning in 100 word columns, (maybe '03?) that this kind of sarcastic writing became the norm. Sally Jenkins is just as bad. But really, Tracee Hamilton jumping on the bandwagon to comment on this is just ridiculous. Where has she been the past 30 games?

What makes this even worse, is that fact that the Wiz beat reporters for the Post are comically late on the news and this entire situation. How can this be possible?

If the Post keeps this up, the same thing will happen that went down with the Times. Same thing continues to happen with the Skins reporting too. They're getting info from the other news outlets and reporting it. Something has to be said about the validity of these reports because who knows how reliable unnamed sources are, but it's a huge concern.

Season 5 of "The Wire", another example of the brilliance of David Chase.

Posted by: saltine182 | January 2, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

First off, about HipHop and Rap. DC_Man88, you need to check what mainstream music really is. Mainstream music is always an evolving phenomena.

Country music at onetime was the number one selling music in the world. The music that knocked Country from the number one perch in the world was in case you didn't know it was HipHop/Rap.

Also, the essence of what music is, is that music is sound that is pleasant to the ear.

The reason that HipHop/Rap became number one in the world is because it integrated the best sounds of mainstream music, whether it was country, soul, R&B, classical, pop, or whatever.

The HipHop/Rap genre did what no one thought possible and still what some will never give it credit for.

Now I haven't checked for the last few years but clearly from 5-10 years ago HipHop/Rap became the number one music in the world.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Now I haven't checked for the last few years but clearly from 5-10 years ago HipHop/Rap became the number one music in the world.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD

Well Larry you can enjoy it all you want me if i was forced to listen to Rap/hiphop I would go insane and slice my wrists lol

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

What's hip-hop left with when you remove sex, bling, cars, houses, money, etc. from the lyrics?

Just a good beat.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:10 PM

Aww hell man, the last time I checked all music genre sings about the same things, money, love, cars, guns, gambling, cards, houses, the law, etc. Name a song in any genre that has ever been mainstream popular that isn't about these things.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT MUSIC IS??? IT IS SINGING ABOUT LIFE STUPID.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Well Larry that is your opinion and I respect that but me personally I cant stand rap and always will and i listen to all other music even clasical.

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

DC_MAN hates Johnny Cash

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 2, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Well Larry you can enjoy it all you want me if i was forced to listen to Rap/hiphop I would go insane and slice my wrists lol

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 3:48 PM

Well, it isn't my number one choice but I listen to a cross selection of music and this is also why I am aware of what HipHop/Rap accomplished.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

That is why I am relocating to Lousiana because I also hate city life and I can live a whole lot cheaper than you can here. The house I just nought is a 3 bed 2 bath 2900 square foot with attached 3 car garage on 12 acres of land for $51,000 and you only pay tax on the property if it apraises for over $75,000

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Only reason I am still here is my family is selling my moms house she paseed in july

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 2, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

hello DC_MAN88 -im just saying the league has to take the correct steps in this. after a refs scandal thats not helping things, now this happening (especially when most people have time off are at home and its front page national news ... this is a BIG shot in the NBA's gut. if the nba does not take steps re: the conduct of its member clubs executive people, then the credibility they have lost will multiply. im sure that there is a transitory Wiz ownership team (Abes daughter?)in place and that Ted L is being consulted, if not this story only gets bigger and nastier for Wiz and NBA. Grunfel and his staff must move out, move on and take responsibility for their "cover up".

Posted by: horace1 | January 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

What's hip-hop left with when you remove sex, gambling, cars, houses, money, etc. from the lyrics?

Just a good beat.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 1, 2010 10:10 PM

Aww hell man, the last time I checked all music genre sings about the same things, money, love, cars, guns, gambling, cards, houses, the law, etc. Name a song in any genre that has ever been mainstream popular that isn't about these things.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT MUSIC IS??? IT IS SINGING ABOUT LIFE STUPID.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 3:51 PM

The answer my friends is Blowin in the wind, the answer is Blowin in the wind... and may God help us all.

Posted by: horace1 | January 2, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

"Blowin' In The Wind"

How many roads most a man walk down
Before you call him a man ?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

Yes, how many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea ?
Yes, how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free ?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
Pretending he just doesn't see ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky ?
Yes, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry ?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

These are the lyrics you referring to. I'll just say three of the things he is referring to is guns, death, and race.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"DC_MAN88 ,

Are you referring to the same Tupac that the U of California offer's a course in??

You idiot, you have no idea what Tupac raps about and for that matter NAS as well.

It would take you YEARS to figure out
Tupac or Nas. Trust me. You are wrong including those two in your aSSessment....

Posted by: kevenjones | January 2, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse "

You are so wrong.

Too much glorification of material things, biotches, violence, drugs, etc.

Proof is in their lyrics and in the videos.

You offer nothing but weak statements saying otherwise.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"First off, about HipHop and Rap. DC_Man88, you need to check what mainstream music really is. Mainstream music is always an evolving phenomena.

Country music at onetime was the number one selling music in the world. The music that knocked Country from the number one perch in the world was in case you didn't know it was HipHop/Rap.

Also, the essence of what music is, is that music is sound that is pleasant to the ear.

The reason that HipHop/Rap became number one in the world is because it integrated the best sounds of mainstream music, whether it was country, soul, R&B, classical, pop, or whatever.

The HipHop/Rap genre did what no one thought possible and still what some will never give it credit for.

Now I haven't checked for the last few years but clearly from 5-10 years ago HipHop/Rap became the number one music in the world.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse "

As usual, you make no sense.

Hip hop/rap, most of it, glorifies violence, drugs, materialism, etc.

And, you see how that manifests itself with dead bodies in the ghetto, idiots who don't know how to act in the NBA, etc.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"Aww hell man, the last time I checked all music genre sings about the same things, money, love, cars, guns, gambling, cards, houses, the law, etc. Name a song in any genre that has ever been mainstream popular that isn't about these things.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT MUSIC IS??? IT IS SINGING ABOUT LIFE STUPID.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse "

Yeah, hip hop/rap music is singing about life in the black ghetto. Instead of rapping about violence, guns, drugs, etc., how about rapping about how to get a job, off welfare, off the corner selling drugs, etc.

Classic case is that dead rapper ODB who despite being a millionaire, still made his regular foodstamp and welfare check pickups.

http://prince.org/msg/8/323300

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"These are the lyrics you referring to. I'll just say three of the things he is referring to is guns, death, and race.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 2, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse "

So where do the lyrics refer to the Uzi or Tech9 or AK?

Where does it refer to how a gang member busted a cap into someone's head?

None of it does.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 2, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

No Wizard player will comment on the Arenas gun.

You mean to tell me no other player was in the locker room!

Yea, I drink kool aid and so do the Wizards.

Before agent 111 was signed for $111M the Wizards were winning without him. Fans forced honest Abe to spend the money to show commitment to winning. Bad business decision, when the money could have been spent getting a better player for less because they were already winning.

So what does Arenas do - he gives up some of his money so the Wizards could keep AJ, bad decision.

This season has proved that the Allstar trio? are not worth keeping.

Unfortunately, the money been spent and it is going to be a long time before the Wizards are winners instead of whiners.

Posted by: NewbillJT | January 2, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Predictions:

1. Stern will suspend these two idiots for 50 games, or the season.
2. Wizards will invoke the morals clause in his contract, and cut Arenas.
3. The U.S. Attorney will go medieval on Arenas, and make a Plaxico-like example of him.
4. That $111 million contract? Oh, never mind.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | January 2, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky ?
Yes, how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry ?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

These are the lyrics you referring to. I'll just say three of the things he is referring to is guns, death, and race.

LarryInClintonMD.
and maybe hes talking about understanding,love and compassion.
In any case the answer is blowing in the wind. or.. what you see is what you get?

Posted by: horace1 | January 2, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

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