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Foye was supposed to get final shot

After Shawn Marion swatted Caron Butler's last second shot in the Wizards' 94-93 loss on Wednesday, Coach Flip Saunders was adamant that the play was not designed for Butler got go one-on-one in that situation. Saunders didn't mention what was supposed to happen, and some of his players simply confirmed that the team didn't execute what was drawn up.

Well, this afternoon, Saunders painted a clearer picture of what he wanted to see on the final play. Sounds like he wanted to work the ball to Randy Foye instead. Foye, after all, had scored a season-high 26 points and had made a three-pointer to bring the Wizards within 94-90 late in the game.

"I think there was a situation where Jason Terry couldn't stop Randy. We were trying to get Randy the ball out top and just take him with his size," Saunders said. "You have to put yourself in a situation where you go to the other team's weakness. It's just one of those things. I had a lot of coaches calling and they said, 'Now was that the play? You wanted to match up Caron against Shawn Marion, maybe the best five second defender in the league? I said, 'Not necessarily.' "

Saunders said he addressed the final play with Butler and the entire team at practice. "Nothing was done from a malicious standpoint. He just wanted to try to win the game," Saunders said of Butler. "You just got to trust things and let them happen and when you do that, you start to reap the rewards and the benefits.

"I think the thing more than anything else that happened, the cut that he made to break off the play, it [put] all of our other guys in a situation where they couldn't react quick enough to change, and so he had nowhere to go and he was kind of locked in," Saunders said. "If we were going to run a play and bring it that way and then kind of clear out that lane, but we had three guys standing right there. [Jason] Kidd was there. [Dirk] Nowitzki was there. [Erick] Dampier was there. He had nowhere to go, so he had to pull up, and not very many people are going to just shoot over Shawn."

Butler declined to speak with reporters this afternoon. Foye was asked about the final play and he said he wanted to move on. "In this situation, I know we're going to be in the same situation and Caron is going to hit a big shot for us," he said. "You live and you learn from your mistakes and you can't dwell on them. The beautiful thing about this league is, you've got a game tomorrow."

By Michael Lee  |  January 21, 2010; 4:27 PM ET
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and the Wizards were supposed to make the playoffs as a 4 or 5 what's new?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

So essentially the ego-driven Wizards go from selfish Gilbert to selfish Caron.

Posted by: blackman1 | January 21, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

My problem with what happened was not so much that Butler didn't run the play that was called. You don't want automatons out there on the floor, slavishly following directions and oblivious to any other opportunities that might present themselves. My problem was that he busted the play when there was no other viable opportunity available to him; no open shot and no available lane to the basket. I doubt that even Saunders would have complained much if Butler had had an open look or had been able to get to the rim. But instead, Butler forced a shot, as he has all too often this season, Marion smothers it, and a valiant Wizards effort gets wasted. Very disappointing.

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 21, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Bulter's been doing it to all year, although to his credit, less lately. Might be time to find him a nice, cushie spot on the bench for a couple nights, if it continues. not yet - everybody f's up once in a while.

Posted by: stevie2 | January 21, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

so Cb acts in direct opposition to what the coach wanted so he could do his own thing? damn that nick young!

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

If McGee had done what Bulter did last night, Flip would have yelled at him right then and there in front of the entire team and all the folks in attendance. The young bucks see that Caron and Antawn get to do whatever they want with no consequences (i.e., no accountability).
That's so wonderful for team chemistry!

Posted by: artiesliver | January 21, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

What was Butler's take on the play?

“The last play was drawn up either to get myself the ball up top or get somebody coming to the corner. Obviously, I wanted the ball. I kind of had my mind made up what I was going to do with it already. This time, it was good defense.”

Later, Butler was asked what he'd do differently on the play.

“Try to drive it. Stay right. I ended up going back left and got stuck, but just go to the basket and try to put the game in the hands of the referees, get some contact.”

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Foye seemed almost stationary on the three point line as Butler began his approach. It might have helped if Foye had rotated towards Butler and the basket.

Though if Butler intended to pass he missed his moment when he cut left and drove. Butler isn't particularly effective at mid-drive, adjust-and-pass situations, which suggests that Miller probably should have been handling the ball.

Posted by: midlevex | January 21, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: midlevex | January 21, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

It's all about our designated shooters, MEron and MEtawn. They don't make other players better. you rarely see Aj or cb make a pass in the halfcourt that leads to a teamate getting a bucket.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Artie Silver is right. Dray got benched for much less. Butler should be benched too. Butler CANNOT play one-on-one. See the last THREE seasons - especially every close game last year, as well as last night. He got one lucky shot against the Cavs in the playoffs, won one game in a series we later lost, and now he thinks he's Michael Jordan (or at least Gilbert Arenas). His a-- needs to be taken to task. Butler is the under the radar reason this season has imploded. But for the future of this team, he needs to be benched so that the double standard stuff ends. Punish him for one game (the season's lost anyways), make him look stupid, and show the team that even "Rough Juice" (which is what he is now) must keep it together for the sake of team basketball. And then when we're at it, also tweak Jamison for being such a Huge Hypocrite. And then apologize to Dray. And then to Gilbert. Then play McGee more. Then win the lottery. Etc., etc.

Posted by: Urnesto | January 21, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I feel what you guys are saying...but the example of McGee or Blatche doing what Caron or AJ or Gil does....doesn't register.

Once you reach a certain get the freedom (in my mind) to freelance a little. You earn creativity.

Gil, AJ, Caron have...the kids...not yet. Show you can handle the basics...and earn that. Dray and Nick are playing well but sustain it for a couple years and we'll talk.

With that said...if you earn the creativity...accept the increased criticism for crap like last night.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Urnesto, you're starting to make sense, so you know the wiz'll never do that stuff. but you're spot on. I would like to see a benching of CB (give him mins, but just don't let him start) and a slight cut back of AJ's mins. If flip is a good coach and worth all of the praise that was heaped on him before the season, then he needs to get in all these clowns faces and let them all know how bad they're making HIM look. The vets are the ones coaches rely upon to be their voice in the locker room, but obviously the locker room is out of control so the coach needs to get everyon back on notice. How does a coach ream on NY and AB about entitlement, but allow AJ and CB to gun it out regardless of the result?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

i get what ur saying. But it's not just "the example of McGee or Blatche doing what Caron or AJ or Gil does". It's whenever the young guys do or don't do anything, you hear the air horn, out comes the sandman, and my boys get the hook. NY throws a lazy pass ,gets the hook. But let CB throw up a brick, dribble the ball off his foot, and get called for a charge all in the span of 2 mins; Flip wouldn't think of pulling him. I see what you're saying about earning you're stripes. i'm all for that, but it LOOKS more like our seasoned veterans are given more leniency to play through their mistakes while the younger players are held to a higher standard. Last year was a real wasted opportunity to get these guys some game experience to play through mistakes or just learn how to play in the NBA period. Every year will be like this for those guys until they get to play. there will never be a right time to play them, because the coaches don't trust them. Either these guys get on the Agent 0 24 open gym workout or they're worthless their deals are up. It's sad cuz i think both NY and Ab can play. Maybe they're better suited for other teams.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Ok people, let's not get crazy. CB shouldn't have broken off the play but let's not start comparing him (2-time all star and all that jazz) to the likes of Blatche and Young. Sucks that he lost the game. But that's the beauty of the NBA regular season: there are 82 games.

Still I would have like for him to not refuse to address the press. Just man up about your mistake, learn from it and move on.

Posted by: tundey | January 21, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Then again...we all don't know everything that goes on. I remember that time Nick got sat down for a while because he couldn't remember a play. Maybe it's an effort thing? I dunno.

CB makes some boneheaded plays...and he isn't a #1 guy. I still remember the 2 on 1 charge he got called for with Boykins trailing. That's a common sense play.

Nick I'd like to see stick around. If CB does get traded...(which I think needs to happen ASAP) then a Foye, Young, Miller lineup would be nice...

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Artiesliver(artie lange) is right. The situation started last year. During many of the losses, they blamed the young guys and the young guys were getting upset because they were not the ones getting the mins, it was the vets. But yet, nothing was said about the vets last year and nothing was done to them.

This year same thing. Flip talks about making changes and holding people accountable and what was the big change after the Memphis game? Benching Randy Foye. Every time Memphis needed a basket, where did they go? Zach Randolph and who was guarding him? AJ. But not a word said. You cannot have double standards. If Nick, Javelle, Dominic, etc broke off that play, they would have been torn a new butthole and been on that bench a long time.

Posted by: Section102 | January 21, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Based on the channel 4 sports news last night, Brendan seems to be a close friend of Gilbert's. He said something about it not being politcally correct but he's basically on Gilberts side and that he's a friend of his.

Posted by: washwiz | January 21, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tslats | January 21, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's go back a few seconds. Why were the Wizards wasting the entire shot clock on defense without fouling. They were lucky that Dirk made his move a little early or else they may have gotten the ball back with only 3 seconds left. I don't understand that at all.

Posted by: dovelevine | January 21, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

"People see the glory, but they don't know the story..."

Posted by: jcbcmb68 | January 21, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Earl Boykins was five of ten with three assists and one TO in less than 17 minutes on the court.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

A very informative story on Javaris Crittenton in the NYT today and by the jist of the article thing's don't add up,Crit has no history of thuggish behavior and by all accounts was a stand up guy and a co-worker who grew up with Crit here in ATL. also confirms the NYT article and even goes as far as saying "Crit would never do anything like that" she say's Crit was always on the up and up and was very respectfull of everyone especially his elders.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 21, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Foye was supposed to get the final shot, lest we forget, according to Ted Leonsis Michael Jordan was supposed to get the final shot.


Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 21, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

A little disappointed in CB's attitude in terms of not owning up to that episode last night nothing wrong with manning up CB you screwed up happens to the best of us but you need be an adult and say "my bad, coach has every reason to be pissed and it won't happen again" that would go a long way with your teamates and your fan's.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 21, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

“Try to drive it. Stay right. I ended up going back left and got stuck.”

And you should have passed it to Foye. Can't blame Gilbert for that one.

As people have said numerous times on here, the Wiz still have "All-Stars" but none of them are "The Man."

Can't win games Caron if you don't trust your team mates.

What's more important? Your ego or the "W"?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 21, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

I agree with many of the comments regarding the disparity in Flip and the organization's treatment of the vets vs. the younguns. That disparity also extends to the media. All too often I hear media pundits lustily call out Andray Blatche or Nick Young but seldom (if ever) a mumbling word about Jamison or Butler.

On a recent post-game show, Chris Miller and Ron Thompson offered a tepid and hesitant critique of Caron Butler -- this after, both lambasted Blatche for some perceived shortcoming. I have never heard Ivan Carter say anything that could even be construed as a mild criticism of Butler or Jamison, yet he is quick to offer harsh analysis of other players. For example, after Gil was suspended, he called out Randy Foye for not yet delivering on his potential and said "it's about time for him to step up". I've not seen his show recently but I doubt he has changed his tune much, if at all.

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | January 22, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

So we could have had Amare if we traded Butler? What about Bosh? Man I bet Ernie would like an off season do-over. Maybe we can get Jordan Hill, JJ, and a draft pick for Butler. A bit of youth would be nice.

And at least Jamison admitted he didn't play well. Did Butler admit he messed up? Not really. Does Butler tell other players to play hard? Not really. He was a good guy when he understood he was a third option. Now because of the last couple years he thinks he is a first option. Trade the bum.

Posted by: jaguar2490 | January 22, 2010 4:58 AM | Report abuse

Maybe BUTLER needs a fresh start. I know HAYWOOD wants one, away from D.C. HAYWOOD can't be resigned or traded after this season, his contract's up, but BUTLER's has another season to go. So let's see what magic the 'Master of Disaster', ERNIE GRUNFELD has in store for us WIZARDS fans.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 22, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse

As I mentioned earlier in the season, the Wizards would be a more competitive team WITHOUT Arenas or Butler. Butler's antics against Dallas not only cost us the game but it is an example of the lack of discipline that he has. They (Butler and Arenas) simply cannot operate in an organized system.

I here that Orlando is interested in Arenas. I'd suggest sending him and Caron as a package deal for Jameer Nelson, their backup Center Marcin Gortat, and a draft pick. Oh, I forgot, throw in Stevenson too just for good measure.

Posted by: carterm1 | January 22, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Again I ask, what was the defensive strategy on the Mavs final possession. TO let them take the final clock down to 3 seconds?? Anyone??

Posted by: dovelevine | January 22, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

This team is not going anywhere with Caron, Jamison, Arenas. It's time to restructure.

Posted by: bdunkadunk | January 22, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

You know, everyone always jump on Jamison and I don't understand. There are plenty of premier teams in this league that would love to get Jamison on their squad. Cleveland for one. This suggests to me the value of this man. You can usually count on him to be always professional and he brings it most every game. So he has an off night on occasion. Who doesn't ?!!? I cannot understand how some of the people here wants him traded when other teams would love to have him. If he gets traded, I hope he ends up with a team that gets a ring. He has done nothing but play his heart out, including for a bottom dweller like my Wiz and he deserves to be on a team where his talent is appreciated. Then, maybe some will realize what we have or had (depending on what happens.

Posted by: ivyleague | January 22, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

You can score and score, but if you can't make stops on defense then it pretty much offsets the scoring contribution. If he can just play good defense, then he won't hear these negatives from the fans here.

Posted by: bdunkadunk | January 22, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

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