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Reaction to Arenas suspension from Saunders, Jamison

COACH FLIP SAUNDERS: Our team has gone through a lot over the years. We've gone through injuries and so now we just have to prepare and play. You can't worry about players that you don't have due to injury or whatever. Those guys are professional; they have go out and perform at a high level.

There's no question when you have a situation or incident that happened you've got to take action. We came out with a statement and we abide by that statement. We can't worry about that right now.

FORWARD ANTAWN JAMISON: It's tough when something like this happens. For us, we just have to concentrate on basketball and what we have and hope that the process takes care of itself. It's a serious one. Most important thing is, we just want Gilbert to play basketball again. It's tough, you know.

We know it's a tough day for him. We're playing Cleveland. You know he would've loved to be playing with us right now and trying to add on to what we did last night. Saying that, it's tough. But we know he wants to be playing right now. For us, we have to play with his type of spirit and hopefully the legal stuff and the suspension will take care of itself.

By Alexa Steele  |  January 6, 2010; 7:21 PM ET
 
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This is an unbeliveably sad story - I know Gilbert has his ideosyncracies and certainly very poor judgement but I never expected this. I wish Gilbert well.

Posted by: junkmail0153 | January 6, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Jamison was asked after the game what he planned on giving Arenas for his birthday. "A muzzle," he said.
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Too bad nobody ever taught Gil how to STFU!

Posted by: keithrjackson | January 6, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

The man NEEDS a mentor, hes a young guy with NO DIRECTION. His teammates need to help him, at least ONE of them should have told him the pregame plan was a bad idea. The team needs LEADERS!

Posted by: ineedajob | January 6, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Totally brought it on himself...Good for David Stern!


Now watch the Wiz go on a 15 game winning streak!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 6, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

"This is an unbeliveably sad story - I know Gilbert has his ideosyncracies and certainly very poor judgement but I never expected this. I wish Gilbert well.

Posted by: junkmail0153 | January 6, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse "

It's actually a happy story.

Everything that Gilby wanted, he did, and he knew full well the consequences, and felt comfortable with them.

Have you ever heard him say he's sorry? No, you've heard his lawyer say that he's sorry.

Even if he said he's sorry, he would be lying.

I congratulate him for doing what he did to himself and his team.

He has proven time and time again that he has no home training.

Most importantly, I thank him for proving me RIGHT in what I've been saying the past 5 seasons. Gilby is the @ssclown gift that keeps giving.

Now all you nonbelievers are left to pick up the pieces.

So next time when I say something, don't tell me I'm wrong.

Just nod your head and/or bow down.

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"After the game, he said: "If I really did something wrong, I would feel remorse in what I did, but I didn't do anything." "

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/01/wizards-morning-brew-more-aren-1.html#comments

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

OH yeah.

Mike Lee...don't post any more comments from MeTawn.

MeTawn failed miserably as "big brother" and team captain.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

This suspension is way overboard. Ridiculous and should not be more than 5-10. He isn't going to get in any legal trouble.

Posted by: AWizinLA | January 6, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Agreed AWizinLA.

I hope Billy Hunter stays all over this situation.
Once the investigation is over he should return immediately.

Posted by: elfreako | January 6, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

"This suspension is way overboard. Ridiculous and should not be more than 5-10. He isn't going to get in any legal trouble.

Posted by: AWizinLA | January 6, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse "

Ask yourself, would Gilby have been suspended if he didn't act like an @ssclown at last night's game, didn't call Stern "mean" while making other ridiculous statements to TV reporters, and pretty much contradict everything that his lawyer said?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Arenas did offer an apology:
I am very sorry for the effect that my serious lapse in judgment has had on my team, my teammates, the National Basketball Association and its fans. I want to apologize to everybody for letting them down with my conduct, and I promise to do better in the future.

Criticize him, sure; but let's be fair in the criticism.


Posted by: SteveMG | January 6, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

To anyone who has used the word "thug" in your posting, in relation to NBA players. I suggest you get some diversity training. You should get out and mingle a little bit more. Spoiled, over-paid, immature might be argued, but while thugs exist and the word "thug" might be applicable as a very small sub-set in ANY large group of people, I'm wondering why it's being applied to NBA players as a group???

Posted by: ragtop4spd | January 6, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse


THE NBA: WHERE LACK OF DUE PROCESS HAPPENS THE NBA: WHERE KNEE JERK REACTION HAPPENS THE NBA: WHERE FAIRNESS DOESN'T HAPPEN

Posted by: dargregmag | January 6, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I certainly hope he has done well with his money so far. At this point, it is like he actually did murder someone and is about to be carted to the gallows.

Unloaded guns in the VC cannot go without being addressed by the League, but choking your coaches neck in the Gym, firing a gun in the air with people around, and riding around the beltway with loaded guns is not any less serious.

I am sorry, to me it shows complicity by the NBA to pile on Gilbert for his wrongness being compounded by his own naivete and stupidity.

Yes Sir, you cannot bring guns into a venue, but the fact that they were unloaded does not go to the seriousness of the incidents above and to take away everything that Gilbert has earned is wrong, in comparison to the punishments by the League in the past.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

"Arenas did offer an apology:
I am very sorry for the effect that my serious lapse in judgment has had on my team, my teammates, the National Basketball Association and its fans. I want to apologize to everybody for letting them down with my conduct, and I promise to do better in the future.

Criticize him, sure; but let's be fair in the criticism.


Posted by: SteveMG | January 6, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse "

Did those words come out of his mouth in an interview that you saw on TV or heard on the radio, or was it a release from his lawyer?

If it's the latter, I hope you're not that gullible.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Void the contract! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

Void the contract! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

Posted by: ArlingtonHokie | January 6, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

The more I sit and ponder about this, this is not quite fair.

As clear as I knew that what Gilbert did was cause to throw him out of the League, this just does not smell right.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

If the criminal investigation ends with a finding resulting in no jail time and relatively light punishment (fines/probation/suspended sentence) my thought is that Stern will just reinstate Arenas then. Unless Arenas gets tagged for a felony and sent to the gray bar hotel, there'd be no logic in keeping him suspended after the legal case has run its course.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 6, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

If it's the latter, I hope you're not that gullible.

Your moving the goal posts. Or basket. Three point line. Whatever metaphor works.

If what we've heard is accurate, Arenas behaved irresponsibly not maliciously.

The reported pulling of the gun on Crittenton - now apparently untrue - set me off big time.

You want to draw-and-quarter him. I'm not so demanding.


Posted by: SteveMG | January 6, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

"Yes Sir, you cannot bring guns into a venue, but the fact that they were unloaded does not go to the seriousness of the incidents above and to take away everything that Gilbert has earned is wrong, in comparison to the punishments by the League in the past.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse "

Are you not paying attention?

Gilby is a lying attention wh0re.

He said he brought his guns on Dec. 9 to VC to turn them into security b/c of the birth of his child.

If so, then why did he still have them on Dec. 24 for full display?

Gilby also did not have a license to own the guns. One of them was supposedly a gold plated desert eagle (50 caliber).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJjaj7pXsA

It's beyond "is he that stupid," but rather, "how much more stupid can he get?"

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

"Your moving the goal posts. Or basket. Three point line. Whatever metaphor works.

If what we've heard is accurate, Arenas behaved irresponsibly not maliciously.

The reported pulling of the gun on Crittenton - now apparently untrue - set me off big time.

You want to draw-and-quarter him. I'm not so demanding.


Posted by: SteveMG | January 6, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse "

Gilby brought guns into DC and did not have a license for them.

Most people with average intelligence would know that if you're in trouble with the law, and are being investigated, it would be smart to be on your best behavior.

Most people would know not to act like an @ssclown by making a mockery of authority, namely the people who sign your paychecks and the people who allow you to play in the their league.

If you're going to spend good money on a lawyer, it does not make sense to get on TV to make quotes that directly contradict what your lawyer puts out as a statement from you.

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"After the game, he said: "If I really did something wrong, I would feel remorse in what I did, but I didn't do anything." "

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/01/wizards-morning-brew-more-aren-1.html#comments

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Did those words come out of his mouth in an interview that you saw on TV or heard on the radio, or was it a release from his lawyer?

If it's the latter, I hope you're not that gullible.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Utter nonsense.

I don't comment often but I've been reading your poisonous comments on this blog for a long time. And I'll defend your right to express yourself. Even to make a fool of yourself, which you do with increasing regularity. What your comments in recent weeks have proven is that you take particular delight in the misery of others. What exactly have you accomplished in life?

In another recent comment, you insinuated that Arenas is comparable to O.J. Simpson by invoking the name of Johnnie Cochran. Whatever Arenas' transgressions -- and the law and David Stern will deal with that -- your comments are simply disgraceful.

You use the ID DC_MAN88 but I don't believe for a second that you live in the District. I'm a lifelong D.C. resident and I think your comments betray braindead suburban sensibilities or you wouldn't be making such outrageous and thinly-veiled racist comments.

Whenever someone confronts you and points out your ludicrous comments, you try to change the subject or suggest that you're only reporting the drama involved with the Wizards. Even if that were true, it matters how you comment on the misfortunes of Gilbert Arenas or any other player on this team.

It is high time that you start making constructive contributions to this blog. If you don't have anything constructive to say, it might be better to simply shut up.


Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

This is all about Lord High Commisioner(Stern-azz) playing to the media this has been blown way out of proportion. I watched PTI today and i swear i would like to kick Tony Kornheiser's azz and Wilbon is just his butt-boy. Kornheiser is full of himself and as much as i miss back home(DC) the one thing i don't miss is his sorry azz radio show he stabbed Joe Theismann in the back to get him replaced at ESPN(MNF)and then went to be the worst football analyst on television only Dennis Miller was worst but not by much. This has more to do with Gilbert and his contract then what he actually did and if i was Gilbert i would fight this, where's the players union? This has pissed me off to no end i may not watch another NBA game EVER or at least until Gil comes back and as far as his teamates are concerned they are a bunch of punks,some jealous SOB ran his mouth and now as a result it has started a firestorm of bullsh#t, LOOK!! he didn't shoot anybody,he bought guns across state lines yes so give him 5-10 games and fine him let him serve probation and that's it.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Unless Arenas gets tagged with jail time (serious time), you can pretty kiss goodbye any chance of his contract being voided.

Bottom line is that even if the Wiz wanted to, they wouldn't even try unless they thought it was a sure thing they'd win, and it isn't. If they try to void his contract and fail, then they're screwed--stuck with a fat contract attached to a player they tried to kick to the curb without success. Plenty of teams will be offering them their garbage in trade for Arenas, and they'll have no choice but to take it, because they can't keep him around after that.

And even if they succeed, they're still screwed. D.C. has never been a favored F.A. destination, in part because of the franchise's (under Pollin) history of running the team like a provincial mom'n'pop shop. Arenas was actually the first noteworthy FA to sign with the team in a long time. If they toss him, he'll just be another name on the list of talented players the team cast off because they weren't choir boys that Abe would be proud to call his sons. In a league that owes its continued existence to an influx if 18, 19, and 20 year old kids, many with little idea of how to live in the real world outside the court, agents are going to be wary of steering their guys here, for fear that the first time they screw up, they'll get hung out to dry. On the flip side, without Arenas around, there won't be a single player on the roster that other players will have any interest in playing with.

Hete to break it to you, but the best outcome from this for the Wizards is for Arenas to come back soon and play with renewed focus to prove himself. All of the other options will get pretty ugly for the Wiz pretty quickly.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 6, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

"Utter nonsense.

I don't comment often but I've been reading your poisonous comments on this blog for a long time. And I'll defend your right to express yourself. Even to make a fool of yourself, which you do with increasing regularity. What your comments in recent weeks have proven is that you take particular delight in the misery of others. What exactly have you accomplished in life?

In another recent comment, you insinuated that Arenas is comparable to O.J. Simpson by invoking the name of Johnnie Cochran. Whatever Arenas' transgressions -- and the law and David Stern will deal with that -- your comments are simply disgraceful.

You use the ID DC_MAN88 but I don't believe for a second that you live in the District. I'm a lifelong D.C. resident and I think your comments betray braindead suburban sensibilities or you wouldn't be making such outrageous and thinly-veiled racist comments.

Whenever someone confronts you and points out your ludicrous comments, you try to change the subject or suggest that you're only reporting the drama involved with the Wizards. Even if that were true, it matters how you comment on the misfortunes of Gilbert Arenas or any other player on this team.

It is high time that you start making constructive contributions to this blog. If you don't have anything constructive to say, it might be better to simply shut up.


Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse "

You would have done yourself a favor by not commenting at all.

I made no reference to OJ simpson.

I made a reference to Johnny Cochran...with him being a savvy lawyer.

Gilby is a disgrace to himself, his family, his team, and to the league...which is why he got suspended.

It's high time that Gilby stops digging himself a hole, which is by the way, currently filling up with boiling oil.

I don't create the news, I report it.

Focus on that.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"This is all about Lord High Commisioner(Stern-azz) playing to the media this has been blown way out of proportion. I watched PTI today and i swear i would like to kick Tony Kornheiser's azz and Wilbon is just his butt-boy. Kornheiser is full of himself and as much as i miss back home(DC) the one thing i don't miss is his sorry azz radio show he stabbed Joe Theismann in the back to get him replaced at ESPN(MNF)and then went to be the worst football analyst on television only Dennis Miller was worst but not by much. This has more to do with Gilbert and his contract then what he actually did and if i was Gilbert i would fight this, where's the players union? This has pissed me off to no end i may not watch another NBA game EVER or at least until Gil comes back and as far as his teamates are concerned they are a bunch of punks,some jealous SOB ran his mouth and now as a result it has started a firestorm of bullsh#t, LOOK!! he didn't shoot anybody,he bought guns across state lines yes so give him 5-10 games and fine him let him serve probation and that's it.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse "

Would you even be whining and crying right now had Gilby not brought guns into DC, not made mockery of authority, and not contradicted his lawyer?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

But you see DC_Man88, just because Gilberts naivete and studpidity makes the case for the League, it does not give them the right to ignore due process.

Nobody is trying to explain away what Gilbert did, I am simply saying just because you have a guilty man, you can't just lynch him anymore in this country.

The NBA have to give him due process and by suspending him now without pay they have obscured the line of due process.

The fact that the Beltway Bandit is playing now as we speak goes to due process, but because Gilbert acted stupidly they feel that due process is out the window.

Not so my friend. If they felt they had the right to suspend Gilbert now, then Delonte West should be suspended as well.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

"After the game, he said: "If I really did something wrong, I would feel remorse in what I did, but I didn't do anything." "

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/01/wizards-morning-brew-more-aren-1.html#comments

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Ken Wainstein, attorney for Gilbert Arenas, issued the following statement by his client:

"I feel very badly that my actions have caused the NBA to suspend me, but I understand why the league took this action. I put the NBA in a negative light and let down my teammates and our fans. I am very sorry for doing that.

While I never intended any harm or disrespect to the NBA or anyone else, my gun possession at the Verizon Center and my attempts at humor showed terrible judgment. I take full responsibility for my conduct.

Earlier today, I called Commissioner Stern to apologize, and I hope we will be able to talk soon. I look forward to the day I can return to basketball. In the meantime, I will focus on dealing responsibly with this serious situation and I will continue to cooperate fully with the investigations by law enforcement and NBA authorities."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Hete to break it to you, but the best outcome from this for the Wizards is for Arenas to come back soon and play with renewed focus to prove himself. All of the other options will get pretty ugly for the Wiz pretty quickly.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 6, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree with this, but it's going to have to take Gilbert to have show a genuine remorse for his actions. This about guns in the workplace, don't fu*k around but he did.

Gilbert just doesn't get it, I'm hoping his indefinite leave of absence will take a positive turn on his overall maturity. He's not a bad guy, and i think he'll get a second chance here because it's really the only choice the Wiz have. When he does, he will be ballin and city will love him again...

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"But you see DC_Man88, just because Gilberts naivete and studpidity makes the case for the League, it does not give them the right to ignore due process.

Nobody is trying to explain away what Gilbert did, I am simply saying just because you have a guilty man, you can't just lynch him anymore in this country.

The NBA have to give him due process and by suspending him now without pay they have obscured the line of due process.

The fact that the Beltway Bandit is playing now as we speak goes to due process, but because Gilbert acted stupidly they feel that due process is out the window.

Not so my friend. If they felt they had the right to suspend Gilbert now, then Delonte West should be suspended as well.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse "

What crack are you smoking?

Gilby admitted that he brought guns into DC and VC without a license.

That violates team rules and the CBA.

Did Delonte West get caught bringing his heat into Quicken Loans Arena? Is he acting a fool?

What don't you understand?

Stern was going to wait until the criminal investigation was complete, but Gilby just kept adding fuel to the fire, so they exercised their right to suspend him from the league, and Les BouleS backed the league.

Do you hear the player's association complaining? Uh, no.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

This is like Pete Rose betting on baseball, there is a written rule in every club house that states betting on baseball will get you kicked out of baseball.

The rule in the NBA is you don't bring a gun into an NBA arena and not only did Gil bring his guns he used them as a joke.

I hate to tell you people but 28 is not a kid.

As long as there are people out there that are willing to make excuses for him he will never grow up?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 6, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

As I understand it, Arenas can appeal the suspension and then have that appeal, if rejected, taken to an arbitrator if he wants to.

His due process rights - however limited - are outlined in the union agreement with the league.

If sure doesn't look like the player's union is rallying to him, does it?

Posted by: SteveMG | January 6, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

You would have done yourself a favor by not commenting at all.

I made no reference to OJ simpson.

I made a reference to Johnny Cochran...with him being a savvy lawyer.

Gilby is a disgrace to himself, his family, his team, and to the league...which is why he got suspended.

It's high time that Gilby stops digging himself a hole, which is by the way, currently filling up with boiling oil.

I don't create the news, I report it.

Focus on that.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

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Johnnie Cochran has also been dead for almost five years. What is the point of invoking his name unless it is to make a connection to the O.J. Simpson case and its racist undertones? That is the legal case Cochran was most known for. It simply betrays your innermost attitudes.

Gilbert Arenas will also pay a very heavy price once the investigation is over. That there is no question about.

One thing I can say with near certainty: your hateful comments will not end no matter who is playing on this team. And some of us will keep calling you out on your ridiculously immature behavior.

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 6, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

DC MAN88 I'm not whining or crying i like to see everyone get his day in court, unlike you i don't hate Arenas oh yeah he's pissed me off with some bonehead plays, but to be railroaded like this; you've got to be kidding me,you spend all of your time bashing Gilbert as if he's personally ruined your life. I think you are a suburban conservative(right wing) who has problems with black athlete's who make a lot of money(like Gil) and can't wait for them to screw up so you can continue to bash them ad nauseum that is a sad way to live your life but you go right ahead and live that hell you call a life, in the end, Gil will be fine but you my friend i'm not so sure.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 6, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

"If sure doesn't look like the player's union is rallying to him, does it?"

They can't yet. Stern rushed to judgment before all the facts are in. he can do that because he has autonomous authority to do what he wants. Billy Hunter (the player's union president) doesn't have that luxury. He needs for the investigation to uncover all of the facts before framing a response/defense. If he comes out swinging now only to have it revealed later that Arenas did actually point a gun at and threaten Crittenton it destroys Hunter's and the union's credibility, and not just in this case but going forward. He has to wait for things to play out before acting.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 6, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

The NBA is not a democracy, it is an institution, corporation etc., The NBA has a right to make those choices necessary to protect their image, brand and product.

It's not the actions that determine your outcome it is how you react to it and Gilby clearly has no idea but you'd hope he does now...

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

"Johnnie Cochran has also been dead for almost five years. What is the point of invoking his name unless it is to make a connection to the O.J. Simpson case and its racist undertones? That is the legal case Cochran was most known for. It simply betrays your innermost attitudes.

Gilbert Arenas will also pay a very heavy price once the investigation is over. That there is no question about.

One thing I can say with near certainty: your hateful comments will not end no matter who is playing on this team. And some of us will keep calling you out on your ridiculously immature behavior.

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 6, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse "

Don't be mad that I'm proven correct time and time again.

As I said, Gilby is the @ssclown gift that keeps giving.

I'm cheering for Les BouleS to beat the Cavs tonight.

You're busy riding my jock about a silly Johnny Cochran point that you're trying to make.

Get over it.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

"DC MAN88 I'm not whining or crying i like to see everyone get his day in court, unlike you i don't hate Arenas oh yeah he's pissed me off with some bonehead plays, but to be railroaded like this; you've got to be kidding me,you spend all of your time bashing Gilbert as if he's personally ruined your life. I think you are a suburban conservative(right wing) who has problems with black athlete's who make a lot of money(like Gil) and can't wait for them to screw up so you can continue to bash them ad nauseum that is a sad way to live your life but you go right ahead and live that hell you call a life, in the end, Gil will be fine but you my friend i'm not so sure.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 6, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse "

Actually, I saw through Gilby what you couldn't see because you have your blinders on.

Sorry for the wakeup call....I know it's tough.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

"They can't yet. Stern rushed to judgment before all the facts are in. he can do that because he has autonomous authority to do what he wants. Billy Hunter (the player's union president) doesn't have that luxury. He needs for the investigation to uncover all of the facts before framing a response/defense. If he comes out swinging now only to have it revealed later that Arenas did actually point a gun at and threaten Crittenton it destroys Hunter's and the union's credibility, and not just in this case but going forward. He has to wait for things to play out before acting.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 6, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse "

The league and Les BouleS had full rights to suspend him since Gilby admitted that he brought guns into DC and VC, nevermind the fact that he did not have a license for them.

That in itself is good enough for a suspension, but the league was waiting for the criminal investigation to be complete before dealing a comprehesive death blow.

That's why today's suspension announcement is for an "indefinite" period until a verdict is rendered and the league can administer the punishment. After that, Les BouleS can administer their own punishment.

Of course, Gilby's antics accelerated the need to put a muzzle on him.

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"Jamison was asked after the game what he planned on giving Arenas for his birthday. "A muzzle," he said. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/05/AR2010010504264.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

The NBA is not a democracy, it is an institution, corporation etc., The NBA has a right to make those choices necessary to protect their image, brand and product.

It's not the actions that determine your outcome it is how you react to it and Gilby clearly has no idea but you'd hope he does now...

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:13 PM

The fact that the NBA is not a democracy does not in any way alleviate them of treating its members properly in respect to the laws, crimes, and even conduct in their own by-laws.

Ask Baseball.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

The more i think about Gilbert, it just pisses me off... We're getting hammered by Cleveland and if he really cared about his teammates and winning he would STFU and he'd drop 50 points today on his b-day..

He loves the spot light, good, bad are simply notorious etc. He is obviously living in his own world, and the bubble just burst. No pay my son... Gilbert is not a thug, not a bad person but a first class moron and idiot.

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Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Mike Lee, get a quote from Shaq on what he thinks about the Gilby debacle.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

He loves the spot light, good, bad are simply notorious etc. He is obviously living in his own world, and the bubble just burst. No pay my son... Gilbert is not a thug, not a bad person but a first class moron and idiot.

mo⋅ron  [mawr-on, mohr-]
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1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.

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1. an utterly foolish or senseless person.

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:24 PM

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Those of us who are long-time fans of this team are mad at how things have turned out.

It is only morons like DC_MAN88 who take special delight in the personal failures of Arenas or others on this team.

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Void the thug's contract! The NBA is a bunch of gun toting thugs!!!

Posted by: srobert1117 | January 6, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

"Those of us who are long-time fans of this team are mad at how things have turned out.

It is only morons like DC_MAN88 who take special delight in the personal failures of Arenas or others on this team.

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | January 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse "

Doesn't matter what I think.

Gilby doesn't think he did anything wrong.

Go talk to him.

Help him figure it out.

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"After the game, he said: "If I really did something wrong, I would feel remorse in what I did, but I didn't do anything." "

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/01/wizards-morning-brew-more-aren-1.html#comments

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

thank goodness we got brenda back tonight

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

@LarryInClintonMD,

Man you can't be serious. Whatever punishment he recieves from the NBA is justified. Stern tried like hell not to suspend the idiot but have you seen the images and hear his post game comments.

How can anybody with good sense defend this?

All the examples you mention did not happen inside on NBA property. While I hope he doesn't see jail time I also hope to never see him in a Wizards uniform again.

I don't care if we never win another game.

Posted by: kevenjones | January 6, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

What happened to Character, Comittment, and Connection?

Didn't Gilby promise Abe that he wanted to represent the organization the right way as an ambassador to the world?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

The fact that the NBA is not a democracy does not in any way alleviate them of treating its members properly in respect to the laws, crimes, and even conduct in their own by-laws.

Ask Baseball.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Look, Gilbert brought guns to VC. Clearly a violation, he fully admitted to bringing the guns and he broke the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. There is no due process for an indefinite suspension, which is the right call.

I do think there is a due process to determine the length of suspension and it comes to the details of brandishing guns and issues of properly have a registered/licenses for his guns.

once this is cleared, i believe the NBA and Players Association can agree on his length of suspension or a consideration of a voided contract.

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Even what Kalo writes makes more sense then Barno. ;)

Posted by: rmcazz | January 6, 2010 7:05 PM


Shoot, go over to Terrapin or Redskins Insider and see what Barno says there. Earlier this year Barno predicted the 'Skins to go 12-4, host a home playoff game, and all fans would fall in love with Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | January 6, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

The Pollins got it right this time:

Wizards' statement on Arenas suspension

"We fully endorse the decision of the NBA to indefinitely suspend Gilbert Arenas. Strictly legal issues aside, Gilbert's recent behavior and statements, including his actions and statements last night in Philadelphia, are unacceptable. Some of our other players appeared to find Gilbert's behavior in Philadelphia amusing. This is also unacceptable. Under Abe Pollin's leadership, our organization never tolerated such behavior, and we have no intention of ever doing so."

Ernie Grunfeld, President, Washington Wizards
Irene Pollin, Principal Owner, Washington Sports and Entertainment (WSE)
Robert Pollin, Chief Executive Officer, WSE
James Pollin, President, WSE

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

"thank goodness we got brenda back tonight"

What? There was a game? Who knew?

Was it just my TV or did Haywood look like he'd gained about 15 pounds since the last time he played?

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 6, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

"The Pollins got it right this time:"

you mean after they didnt suspend Gil themselves when they could have at any point and he'd already admitted to bringing the guns to Verizon?

funny how tough management sounds AFTER the suspension is handed down.

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

"The Pollins got it right this time:"

you mean after they didnt suspend Gil themselves when they could have at any point and he'd already admitted to bringing the guns to Verizon?

funny how tough management sounds AFTER the suspension is handed down.

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

The straw that broke the camels back my friend happened last night in Philly. It clearly states Gilby's lack of respect for the situation. and Im sure the wiz would do everything they can to cut their 100 million dollar man a little slack.

it's about RESPECT... gilby just doesn't give a fu*k. And Stern decided to push the eject/reject button

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

"League sources say Stern's decision to suspend Arenas at this time was a direct result of Arenas' flippant comments and attitude regarding the situation. Officials in the league office were incensed by the way Arenas mocked the reactions of the media and public toward his behavior on his Twitter page and in comments to reporters -- even before Tuesday's actions in Philadelphia.

Since Arenas already admitted to breaking league rules by bringing firearms into an NBA arena, Stern may not have waited until the entire legal process played out before issuing a suspension, but sources said it's "fair to say" Arenas' actions expedited the process. And while it was certainly not Stern's intention, the league realizes it may have also saved Arenas from further incriminating himself by getting him out of the spotlight."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Self destructive?:


Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that some of Arenas' closest friends had urged him in recent days to curtail his excessive use of Twitter and his ongoing nonchalant commentary about the incident.

But Arenas resisted those pleas, saying over and over that relying on humor was the only way he knows how to deal with crisis.

-------------------------------------------

"Jamison was asked after the game what he planned on giving Arenas for his birthday. "A muzzle," he said. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/05/AR2010010504264.html

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

"The straw that broke the camels back my friend happened last night in Philly. It clearly states Gilby's lack of respect for the situation."

oh he's a damn fool, and i completely understand why stern did it.

note EVERY player in the photo is laughing, except oldberto who has a big grin on his face. like they were in on the bad joke, just as arenas said afterward.

anyways, i guess the people who hate arenas will enjoy watching games like tonight for the rest of the season.

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Happy Birthday Gilby, what a great 28th birthday.

maybe it's the best thing that could've happen.. if he doesn't develop into a man after this god help him.

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

"you mean after they didnt suspend Gil themselves when they could have at any point and he'd already admitted to bringing the guns to Verizon?

funny how tough management sounds AFTER the suspension is handed down.

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse "

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"I initially thought it prudent to refrain from taking immediate action because of the pendency of a criminal investigation involving the office of the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department, and the consideration of this matter by a grand jury sitting in the District of Columbia. For the same reason, I directed the Wizards to refrain from taking any action.


-- NBA commissioner David Stern"

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

And while it was certainly not Stern's intention, the league realizes it may have also saved Arenas from further incriminating himself by getting him out of the spotlight."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:50 PM

If this is true, you are saying that the League is acting in Gilberts self interest, but the bigger issue as someone alluded to earlier, his lawyers are incompetent.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

"anyways, i guess the people who hate arenas will enjoy watching games like tonight for the rest of the season.

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse "

Not much difference compared to when Gilby was playing.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

"If this is true, you are saying that the League is acting in Gilberts self interest, but the bigger issue as someone alluded to earlier, his lawyers are incompetent.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse "

I copied that...didn't write it.

Gilby's lawyers are not incompetent....their client is.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

The sad part, Gilby was playing his best basketball as of late.. i am now fully convinced the wiz are cursed.

Ted Leonsis is the last HOPE for washington wizards, please turn this franchise around, please...


Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

This is the best thing that could have happened for Arenas. If he's really smart, he'll keep his head low (not antagonize any of the people who control his fate.

Gil, hire good lawyers AND LISTEN TO THEM!!!

Posted by: and_1 | January 6, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

$147,208 x 12 games before he can protest = $1.77 mil

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"If this is true, you are saying that the League is acting in Gilberts self interest, but the bigger issue as someone alluded to earlier, his lawyers are incompetent.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 9:59 PM

Do you really believe his lawyers didn't tell him to STFU??

Posted by: and_1 | January 6, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Marc Stein reports feeling around the league is that Arenas' contract cant be voided based on current circumstances.

that sets up the usual scenario where some time passes, people dont care about this anymore, and somebody fleeces us to the tune of an over-the-hill player AND partial payment of Gil's deal just so we can move him. Great!

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

"Marc Stein reports feeling around the league is that Arenas' contract cant be voided based on current circumstances.

that sets up the usual scenario where some time passes, people dont care about this anymore, and somebody fleeces us to the tune of an over-the-hill player AND partial payment of Gil's deal just so we can move him. Great!

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse "

Gilby is a nut.

He contemplated driving off GW Parkway for something even more moderate than this drama.

If I were his family, I'd have somebody keep an eye on him.

It would clear cap space though (j/k). ;)

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

On to something else...if George Michael was still alive and in the news business...it's hard to imagine what level of intensity he'd be going through today...with the Gilby and Skins news blowing up.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Side note:

Did anyone read how Portis threw Jason Campbell under the bus?

So funny.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Do you really believe his lawyers didn't tell him to STFU??

Posted by: and_1 | January 6, 2010 10:05 PM

Maybe they did, but somehow de did not get the message. Anybody with a brain new instantly that what he did was a career ending act.

For him not to exhibit that he himself understood that and to not govern himself accordingly is a grave mistake by him or the people in charge of this case on his behalf.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe they did, but somehow de did not get the message. Anybody with a brain new instantly that what he did was a career ending act.

For him not to exhibit that he himself understood that and to not govern himself accordingly is a grave mistake by him or the people in charge of this case on his behalf.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 6, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse "

The Wiz PR staff tried to get him to STFU also while he was busy talking to reporters, but that didn't stop him either.

Check this...a few months from now, Gilby will blame Les BouleS for not trying hard enough to stop him from bringing guns to the arena and from him acting a fool, paralleling his accusation that Les BouleS didn't stop him from him hurting his own knee.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse


Gilby is going nowhere... the wiz would get nothing back in return for his contract. He's a fun lovin guy in need of a humble experience like this to knock him straight.

I genuinely think that he will show true remorse, and he will participate in community service, speaking out against guns and violence in DC. I think those are the steps he needs to regain the confidence of the people in this organization.

This is DC, (Formerly the "Murder Capital of the World"), and i think his actions on any other city/team would be different. This is a disgrace to Abe Pollin and the violent history of this city.

I think he needs some really important people to give him a call. Please Ted Lenosis, give him a call. Please Barack Obama, give him a call.

Agent Zero will be back in DC...

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I think if Abe was still alive, he'd be so appalled that if he couldn't have Gilby traded, or the contract voided, he might just pay him to go away....like Stephon Marbury.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it, but the Wiz would be smart to cut there losses with Gil. Void the deal and then look at the big picture. Who do you build around??? Does this team any winners on it? Who is worth keeping around? I like Twan, but where's the defense and leadership? I'm sick of Caron's effort on the court. Trade it all away and do what the Thunder did and build around young guys and find your true franchise player 1st! We are now at least 3 years removed from the playoffs. And the Foye and Miller trade netted us nothing for the #5 pick. Wouldn't a certain PG in Milwaukee look good right about now in a Wiz uniform?

Posted by: stovenut | January 6, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody else feel intense hatred for Javaris Crittenton right now? It sounds to me like nobody would have even noticed this if he didnt throw a tantrum and snitch to the team trainer. He is not an NBA level ball player and i never wanted him on the team before this. I say we cut him right away.

That said, Gilbert didn't handle any of this the right way it seems. As a ridiculously huge fan and defender of Gilbert over the years I felt weird hoping for a suspension the other day just so we can find some way to drop his contract. At this point he doesn't look like he's going to get back to his old self and its just not worth the money. I hope we find a way to get rid of him by the end of the year for the good crop of free agents this offseason. Actually I wish we could drop him and resign him for a little less than half the money he was getting before, but thats not going to happen obviously. He's still my favorite all time wizard/ bullet, but its time to rebuild and he cant act like this and play like this at the same time. its not going to work. I say we trade Caron too, he's been having mountain dew withdrawals all season and its showing in his play this year. Every one else can stay (excluding Crit, James, and stevenson) if we added a top big man and top pg next year through free angency and the high draft pick it looks like we're getting. I hope Leonsis buys the team soon and that he agrees with me.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | January 6, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

So now they're saying Critt pulled his own gun, loaded a clip and cocked it.

As the world turns.....

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 6, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Who knew that this season would actually be more disastrous as the last??

my loyalty to this organization is really depressing me right now, apologies..

Go Capitals !!

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

They just said a new version of the incedent was released where ammo was put in the gun and the weapon was cocked WOW if true

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 6, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Comcast Sports Net is reporting that Crit grabbed his own weapon, loaded ammo into it and cocked it after Gil told him to "pick one" of Arenas' four guns.

This stuff is getting thick.

Posted by: and_1 | January 6, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

what source is this?

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Comcast sports nite

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 6, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

comcast sports night

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 6, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

wow ever since this blog went down i have had problems with double posts

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 6, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Check this...a few months from now, Gilby will blame Les BouleS for not trying hard enough to stop him from bringing guns to the arena and from him acting a fool, paralleling his accusation that Les BouleS didn't stop him from him hurting his own knee.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 6, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

That would not be surprising. And I can't see GILBERT getting 20 years for four felony convictions, one for each hand-gun. You or I might, but not GIL. I do think the indefinite suspension runs concurrent with the investigations into his transgressions with the law, both local and Federal.

Ultimately, I think he's charged and convicted of one or more misdemeanors, fined heavily, and required to conduct more community service work than he already performs. At that point, I think the league imposes a set period suspension, and reinstates him. The WIZ may do so also, but probably not.

So sometime late this year or early next, he returns to the club with years remaining on that hideous contract which is bleeding the club of any possibility of competing for a decent record. Until then GIL and everyone of us will have to grin and bear the pain. Funny, no?

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 6, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Yep....what ^^ said...LOL

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 6, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Divorce May Be Wizards and Arenas’ Best Option

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b2kZd

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 6, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Could The Suspension Be A Blessing?

Look, I know all the obvious stuff and that most are happy that we may be able to void his deal and get rid of him. They also want the team blown up which is understandable. However, what if the team does play solid ball without him and the East continues to suck? What if we stay within reach of a playoff spot, even if we're like 5 games out? The one thing about the Gil incident is that you knew no matter what, he would be suspended for however long. That was going to be like a dark cloud hanging. I was always torn because I wanted Stern to wait until the court stuff is over and then make his decision which could leave Gil still a good amount of time to play.

However, I also was worried that if it took weeks then by time Stern got around to suspending him, it may have been an unintentional season ender. By that I mean that if the courts dont get done until weeks later, Stern may have only decided to suspend Gil for 20-30 games but there may only be 20-30 games left in the season at that point so it basically wouldve ended his season and put us in a huge bind if we were playing well to not have him at the most important time.

Now the bad thing is that Gil's recent actions sounds like it has made Stern so mad that he's going to hammer him so this indefinite suspension is not good in that regard. On the flip side though there was a nice round number of 50 games left in the season going into tonights game. Gil did talk with him tonight and when the facts come out it may not be too bad. I think Stern has to give him credit for time served. That means Stern may not make his decision until after 15 games but he might say that since Gil cooperated well and has done good in that time off, he will credit him for that and will suspend Gil for 25 more games. Thats a total of 40 which is still a huge suspension and Gil may be able to come back for the last 10 games for a playoff run which he may have never gotten if Stern wouldve waited.

He also has a good lawyer and the players union is very good. Combine that with the arbitrator that Gil is likely to appeal to and Gil may be able to cut the suspension by 10 games, down to 30. That would leave him with 20 games left to play at the end of the year. In that regard I think this timing of the suspension could be a blessing but I know that Im the lone wolf as most want him gone and the team blown up. Even if you got rid of Caron & AJ, I would still like to have Gil. You can let Wood go at the end and start McGee next year. I like the thought of Gil playing with McGee but Gil probably will be somewhere else being the final piece to make some team a real contender and we will look dumb

Posted by: dlts20 | January 6, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

can we all just stop responding to DCMAN..it just leads to more of the same..I'm getting bored paging past all his posts and all the responses that ensue.....

Posted by: stevie2 | January 6, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

You can let Wood go at the end and start McGee next year. I like the thought of Gil playing with McGee but Gil probably will be somewhere else being the final piece to make some team a real contender and we will look dumb

Posted by: dlts20 |

I would not have a problem with Gilbert Arenas except for 1 thing and that is his contract 111 million is Kobe or Lebron money and that means Leadership is encluded with that price tag and Gilbert in his best fantasy dream is no leader.

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 6, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, this certainly puts a new spin on it:

The two players had been arguing during a card game on the Wizards' flight back from Phoenix Dec. 19, and the dispute spilled into the team locker room at Verizon Center before practice two days later. Arenas has acknowledged bringing his handguns to the arena and displaying them in the locker room that morning in what he maintained was a playful gesture aimed at his teammate.

According to two first-hand accounts of the confrontation, Crittenton responded to Arenas's action -- which included laying the four unloaded weapons in Crittenton's cubicle with a note that read, "Pick One" -- by brandishing his own firearm, loading a clip of ammunition into the gun and cocking the weapon.

Two of the five people in the room that morning, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Arenas had originally not disclosed Crittenton's action to protect the little-used guard from prosecution and had told Crittenton he would assume full responsibility for the actions of both players that day.

In a two-hour interview with the district attorney on Monday, Arenas, in his version of the story, spoke of Crittenton's loaded gun, a person with knowledge of Arenas's testimony said, adding that the player was expressly told by attorneys not to lie under oath.

. . .

Walking into the locker room two days after the dispute on the team plane, according to two witnesses, Arenas laid out the guns in Crittenton's locker. Two other teammates eventually sauntered in and, while Arenas was writing the note in front of Crittenton's cubicle, in walked Crittenton, according to their account.

Asking Arenas what he was doing, Arenas replied, "If you want to shoot me, I'd just thought I'd make it easy for you." As other teammates laughed, Crittenton crumpled up the paper, tossed one of Arenas's guns across the room, where it bounced in front of a team trainer, and said he didn't need any of Arenas' firearms because he had his own, according to the witness accounts.

Crittenton then drew his weapon, loaded the clip into the chamber and cocked the bar, the witnesses said.

Neither witness said the gun was ever pointed at Arenas, but both said Crittenton began singing as he held the gun.

Arenas began laughing, the witnesses said, telling Crittenton, "Look at that little shiny gun," as two other players slowly retreated to the training room.
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Arenas eventually followed. By the time the players came back out, Crittenton was gone.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/06/AR2010010605167.html?hpid=artslot

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 6, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

So if the new stories are true, Crit not only jokingly threatened Gil at the beginning of the chain of events, but also drew the gun in the locker-room. Why then is Crit's rep saying Crit did nothing wrong? Also, if Crit did that, then not only Gil but most of the team were covering for Crit for several days now. One last note: the story goes that all the players were involved in the pre game antics in Philly. If so, shouldn't some of them have been the most offended by Gil in the locker room and why did they particpate in the pre game antics. Either 1) most were not offended by the locker-room antics or 2) they agreed as a group to help cover up for either Gil or Crit by showing it was not a serious issue.

So I'm saying there is a growing chance there are a whole lot more than just one two faced people here. In any case, I don't think this needed to be played out in public. Can we do something to break out of this 24 hour news cycle mentality, compounded by blogs and pundits who need juicy issues for survivial?

Posted by: ragtop4spd | January 6, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

inmates running the asylum

Posted by: divi3 | January 6, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

it's difficult to defend an idiot like Arenas. No one feels sorry for him, he is the LAUGHING STOCK of the year. This is one of the most embarrassing stories ever...

It's all up to the Feds, if they charge him with a misdemeanor or felony. there were 4 guns, jesus, why does anyone need 4 guns??

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many people are going to call for Critt's contract to be terminated tomorrow.

It's all up to the Feds, if they charge him with a misdemeanor or felony. there were 4 guns, jesus, why does anyone need 4 guns??

Nobody needs 4...but the constitution says he can have them if he wants.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 6, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

this is a worst case scenario, that is actually worse !!

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 6, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

I got 30 guns but 1 big difference I abide by the laws and I dont go transporting them into other states or the District also mine are all sporting weapons not pistols

Posted by: rnorris6 | January 6, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Couple of things are very clear to me:

1) He deserves whatever comes his way. There is not a person posting here that would not get fired immediately for bringing a weapon to work. Is he somehow above the law bc he has a $111 million contract and is a professional athlete? Hell no!

2) It is undeniable now that he should have never been given the contract in the first place. And, it's not bc of performance or injuries. It's bc you don't give a child $111 million dollars and make him the face of your franchise or this is what happens.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

By the way, if the story about Crittenton is true, he will never play another game in the NBA. Such idiots!

And, Arenas SHOULD be charged with a felony. It's a no brainer case especially when you consider he has a previous weapons charge. That is grounds for voiding his contract!

What is with all the smiles on every players face in the "finger gun" photo??? Do we have a whole team of idiots? Jesus, no wonder they have no basketball IQ bc their normal IQ's are suspect. Thank god the happy-go-lucky attitude of this team is about to go bye bye. Trade Butler and Jamison. Try to void Arenas' contract and start over with Leonsis in charge.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Honestly...I don't think it's felonious behavior...anything is possible, I just doubt he'll face 4 felonies.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 7, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

let's get one thing straight metro boys. What Gilbert did was wrong, no ifs, ands, or buts, and especially for that particular location and place of employment; however, some people on this discussion are slightly confused about guns. Guns are still legal, under the guidelines of the local laws. There are plenty of places where an unloaded gun, including a handgun, can be brought outside the home for storage, transport, or show and tell legally. I'm not talking DC, but this is a big country. Of course, anyone in his right mind would ask his employer first before bringing one to work. We don't know all the details yet; I'm not willing to bet just yet that the employer didn't know in this case. In any case, there are some of us here that would not be fired for bringing an unloaded gun to work (not under Gil's situation, mind you). Want a non-cop example? Plenty of long distance truck drivers carry guns, and could have permission to bring into the depot or company office. Ok, maybe I'm off topic or out of line, but enough with the Gil-hating generalizations that are building this up as a capital offense. I'm not defending him, I'm just putting his mistakes in proper perspective AND repeatedly reminding folks that there are more details than we know.

Posted by: ragtop4spd | January 7, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Any true Wiz fan knows why Gil was given the contract. Mr Pollin and EG would have never heard the end of it from fans to let Gil go. They were in a tough position. The best thing in DC basketball in 2 decades (discounting MJ) was already here, but at risk of loss. No reasonable replacement was on the horizon. Doctors were consulted. It was a good gamble to keep a fan favorite and key player, and they needed to pay the money to feed the sports ego monster (generic, not just Gil). The team had already made Gil the face of the team, by giving out and selling Gil stuff to exclusion of most other opportunities. In his prime he could hit game winners that justified the money at least moderately. The fan based was not ready to let him go. We all know this. They made a marketing decision, and decided the contract was the best thing for the predictable future. It was a gamble, but it was a wise and almost necessary move given all circumstances.

Posted by: ragtop4spd | January 7, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Well in light of the recent report, I have to say that trading AD and the top 14 protected 1st round pick from Memphis(17-17) looks like a really bad deal. Nice job Ernie!

Posted by: djnnnou | January 7, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Shocking, Sad, unbelievable...what words can be used to describe this situation? The immaturity of this team continues to confound me. We now see clearly why he was not the leader, though the best player. Nevertheless I think the suspension should be 15-20 games. Gil is not evil or sinister. He is just immature and naive. He needs to be taught a hard lesson but not to be destroyed professionally.

The Philly finger gun episode does look like a premeditated thing that the entire locker room felt would be a statement that they are united and not mad at one another, which may be true. But if they knew he was going to do this, it showed that all of them, Caron, AJ, all of them, just don't get it. They should have seen the implications of it. I wish someone asks them if they knew he was going to do that finger pistol thing or not.

You have to feel sorry for Flip and the front office no matter how dumb you think they have been. But you also have to wonder if a more tough coach like Avery Johnson, who was my first choice, is what this team needed.

BmoreRev

Posted by: stanlong23 | January 7, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

". I'm not talking DC, but this is a big country. "

Well, too bad the incident did happen in DC. Nice try.

Have not seen where anybody said this is a capital offense. Perhaps you are the one exaggerating. He did admit to having 4 guns in his locker, which is against NBA rules and the laws of DC.

Fact: he is potentially facing felony charges and jail time. Will that happen? I don't know. That is where GA will get his due process, but the NBA does not owe him that.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Flip hasn't really done a great job managing this fiasco nor should he be responsible but certainly should obliged. I feel like the whole thing has blown out of proportion and Flip and EG should've done more to help this clueless child stay afloat.

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 7, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

@Bmorerev,

lol...yeah, if only we had hired Avery Johnson things would be so much different. Hilarious!

I do agree that you have to feel real bad for FS. I don't think he realized what he was getting himself into.

GA's dumbass has cost us two PG's now. Himself and Crittenton.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Tonight we got hammered in Cleveland, this season is officially lost... this has to be one of the most saddest days for this organization.

Perhaps this is the final cleansing needed before Leonsis takes over.

Leonsis does not deserve a 100 million dollar baby

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 7, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

"Flip hasn't really done a great job managing this fiasco nor should he be responsible but certainly should obliged. I feel like the whole thing has blown out of proportion and Flip and EG should've done more to help this clueless child stay afloat."

Are you serious? Now this is Flip's and EG's fault? Really? Wow....just don't get some people's brains. By the way, the front office of the Wiz was told by the NBA not to take any actions bc by league rules a player can't be punished twice for the same incident. So, had the team immediately suspended him for say two weeks, Stern would have his hands tied now.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

I got a couple points that nobody wants to hear:

#1 Gil is an entertainer & the same rules don't apply to him as you or I... so when people say, Oh I would be fired?? because you work for the man... Arenas is a contracted basketball player, just as Bruce Willis is a contracted Actor, just as Metallica is a contracted band... If Bruce Willis had a gun on his possession, would they say, hey your fired?? If a Rock Band drinks on stage in public, do they arrest them? or how about, Snoop Dog smoking weed on stage? ok, yeah they get him sometimes... lol

#2 I understand Arenas broke the law, but the second amendment states that we have a right to bear arms... I don't know, last time I checked you couldn't kill a man without bullets... Seems kinda harsh that you could get 5 years in prison for a REGISTERED GUN (in any state) with no BULLETS!

#3 His contract will never be terminated because he will never be convicted of a felony, although the 2003 charge does raise questions considering he got caught with an AZ registered gun in CA... I think the ATF should handle all of the gun laws in this country... I mean, You can have a concealed weapon to protect yourself in VA but can't even carry a visible weapon in MD? I don't own a gun because who the hell can keep up with the rules? ... back to the point... I can't see DC doing anything other than a misdemeanor, 1 year probation, & some community service because of his service to the community. So, everyday he is out, we as a city are losing the service of our best basketball player & until Ovie & the caps emerged... he was the most popular athlete in this town... yes he is an idiot but he is a lovable idiot unlike say Portis... how can you get upset at a guy hitting a game winning 3?

#3 DAVID STERN HATES THE WIZARDS & GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO GRIND THE KNIFE FURTHER IN.... This man has set his precedence in the league with guns... No matter what anyone says, Stephen Jackson discharged a firearm 5 TIMES in public & got what? 7 games... That my friends is the precedent that you have to look at from this sorry, game fixing, commissioner... I'm telling you, the NBA is inches from the WWE... the refs control way too much of the action.. 2 GAMES this year, fouls called with .1 on the clock, giving our opponents the win... at home to boot?? come on... so Al Sharpton runs his mouth (knicks fan) & the NBA cracks down on Arenas when a fricken player CHOKED HIS COACH!!!! So, based on his suspension, Gilbert Arenas did the 1st or 2nd worst thing in NBA HISTORY (Brawl probably worst)?? Gilbert Arenas is a smart you know what, that's it... he just needs to grow up... how would you be at 25 with $111 million coming to you? I know I'd be a little cocky...

#4 I wish his contract was terminated because it would be good for the Wiz to have a shot at the big boys this summer, but unfortunately it won't happen & THE CURSE OF LES BOULEZ WILL LIVE FOREVER!

#5 We're doomed!

Posted by: tony325 | January 7, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

correction... for above... meant to say (when a player shoots his gun in public, referring to Stephen Jackson) not Latrell, he got his due...

Posted by: tony325 | January 7, 2010 1:21 AM | Report abuse

yeah im serious, if you're the coach and GM, you have the pulse on what's going on with this team. these guys didn't do enough to prevent the "worst case scenario." Obviously we don't have management who has the back bone to tell Arenas to STFU. I didn't hear flip or EG say ONE word at least pubicly about seriousness of guns. At least one of these guys, should've of pulled Arenas on Jan 1., and say, hey man don't fu*k around with guns, this is not a sandbox you're playing in, it's the NBA. As you can see the whole team didn't get it, that's what happens when you ask your best player to become the leader of this team. A team that is just one big laughing stock in the NBA

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 7, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Are you serious? Now this is Flip's and EG's fault? Really? Wow....just don't get some people's brains. By the way, the front office of the Wiz was told by the NBA not to take any actions bc by league rules a player can't be punished twice for the same incident. So, had the team immediately suspended him for say two weeks, Stern would have his hands tied now.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

eah im serious, if you're the coach and GM, you have the pulse on what's going on with this team. these guys didn't do enough to prevent the "worst case scenario." Obviously we don't have management who has the back bone to tell Arenas to STFU. I didn't hear flip or EG say ONE word at least pubicly about seriousness of guns. At least one of these guys, should've of pulled Arenas on Jan 1., and say, hey man don't fu*k around with guns, this is not a sandbox you're playing in, it's the NBA. As you can see the whole team didn't get it, that's what happens when you ask your best player to become the leader of this team. A team that is just one big laughing stock in the NBA

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 7, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

@BulletsForEva,

OK...so now you know what EG and Flip have or have not said to Arenas in private?? Give me a break!

And they should have told him not to fu*k around with guns after the incident happened? Good lord, what a joke! They shouldn't have to have said that before or after. How about a little personal responsibility, which GA's coddled arse is about the learn about.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 1:51 AM | Report abuse

OK, I just read the article and the one thing that really shocks me that no one is talking about is that it seems like Gil wasnt even in the card game and didnt owe anyone money. All he did was pull those guns out and that may be bad enough to ruin him but he didnt owe Critt or McGee like everyone said seemingly by this story and he never pointed a gun at anyone. He's still going to get lit up though, espically with all the dumb actions he did since then.

On the other hand Critt is a good kid and he still says that its not true so maybe that is the case. We dont know for sure. One thing that is sure is that Gil is the idiot who's 4 guns are known and no one has found Critt's gun so it will be hard to prove that he had one unless someone on the team testifies against him and Gil does not count. Its also funny how everyone was talking about this big dollar amount and it was really only 2 guys with no money in McGee & Critt and the pot was only $1,100. Gil gets under people's skin but it shouldnt have made Critt that crazy over just 1100. However, IDK what was said and Gil can make cats want to kill him with his mouth

Posted by: dlts20 | January 7, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

"Stern rushed to judgment before all the facts are in. he can do that because he has autonomous authority to do what he wants."

What? GA publicly admitted to bringing guns onto NBA property. That is all Stern needed to suspend him immediately. He was waiting for the legal process so he could have a better read on all the facts and better be able to determine a suitable length of suspension. But, Arenas' dumbass forced his hand and "indefinite" suspension is kind of a nice way around that problem for now.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Now we can go back to the same old dull DC teams that we were used to for so long.

I knew something was too good to be true. Arenas had so much more success than Jordan, Stackhouse, Webber, Howard and Strickland. How could this be.

Now we are stuck with another boring team. Can't win in this town for nothing. Oh yeah the redskins hired some guy name Shanahan or Shaggy but guess what his boss is Danny Boy.

Like Lavar said if you want to make money come to DC if you want to win go St Elswhere.

Ernie please trade away Caron and Jamison while you can Caron is not motivated and Jamison deserves too be on a better team. Prepare for a lot of empty seats this team is no longer fun to watch.

Posted by: bonggong | January 7, 2010 2:00 AM | Report abuse


And they should have told him not to fu*k around with guns after the incident happened? Good lord, what a joke! They shouldn't have to have said that before or after. How about a little personal responsibility, which GA's coddled arse is about the learn about.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 7, 2010 1:51 AM | Report abuse

when you sign a player for 100 million dollars, his business is your business. His responsibility is your responsibility. He fu*ks up you, fu*k up. That is the nature of management, your problem is everyone elses... this holds true in the military, government and the business world.

Flip and Ernie, you guys have a great track record and im sorry, but you had to know Gilbert is a loose cannon... you let him sink.

Posted by: BulletsForEva | January 7, 2010 2:06 AM | Report abuse

People are beginning to feel sorry for Gilbert, they shouldn't. If any person brought a gun to work and did the same things he did they would lose their job, immediately. Only Gilbert says the guns were unloaded, how do you know he didnt remove the ammo and just say they were unloaded. Where are the bullets. He removed the guns from his home, why didnt he remove the bullets as well, arent they whats really dangerous to children as well. Hasn't Gil been through gun violations before right when he got to Washington. Shouldnt that have given him an idea as to the seriousness of handgun violations. Didnt he welsh on his bets with Crittenton and then try to embarrass him and push his buttons ending in a likely lethal situation. Where is his maturity in the matter when he did the imitation of shooting pistols in the game warm up-doesnt he get the picture? Didnt he admit to trying to push Crittentons buttons to wind him up. After all of this how could his employer allow him to remain in the work force and then have the employer be responsible for Gils future actions if Gil were to harm someone in the future, the liability would be tremendous. Gils not a thug. just an unthinking, child.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | January 7, 2010 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Im listening to the Junkies and they are tripping me out. All of them think Gil is a good guy who made a mistake and should only get like 8-10 or 15-20 games at the most. They think what Delonte West did is way worst and he didnt get suspended. They all think drinking & driving is way worst than what Gil did. The one guy said Stephen Jackson got 7 games and he would give Gil less

Posted by: dlts20 | January 7, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

They said Telfiar brought loaded guns on a plane and got 2 games. All these guys have done all this stuff and yet Gil is getting the biggest suspension by far?

Posted by: dlts20 | January 7, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

For all of you who are trying to defend Gil, I have one question..

Have you ever been in court?

Because if you have, you know even if you are there for a traffic ticket your outcome will depend a lot on how you act in front of the judge.

If you start calling a judge names and act like an @ss you are not going to get any leniency.

David Stern is the judge and Gil acted like an @ss at the Philly game, so guess what he got what he deserves.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 7, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

"It is undeniable now that he should have never been given the contract in the first place. And, it's not bc of performance or injuries. It's bc you don't give a child $111 million dollars and make him the face of your franchise or this is what happens."

Tell that to the Caps, Penguins, Magic, or Cavs.

Pro sports, all pro sports, are built on aggrandizing young talent. Most of the biggest stars are little more than kids when they first gain big acclaim and big money. Are some more ready to handle it than others? Sure. But if they were to adopt your blanket policy, every pro sports league in the country would fold up shop. It's a business, and success in business requires taking risks. Sometimes they pay off, sometimes they don't. To suggest that the Wizards should have somehow seen this coming is without any foundation.

"GA publicly admitted to bringing guns onto NBA property. That is all Stern needed to suspend him immediately."

But he didn't suspend him immediately, did he? If he had, he could have (rightly) claimed that the suspension was based on violation of an exploit policy relating to guns on NBA property, and no one would have had a basis for complaint. But Stern initially said he was going to wait for the legal process to play out and all the facts were in. That changed when Arenas refused to shut up and lay low. So, basically, Stern gave him a pass on suspending for his actions (which certainly merited punishment), and really suspended him because of Arenas' refusal to shut up got on his nerves and made the NBA look bad (he basically said as much in his statement announcing the suspension).

Again, while Arenas' actions certainly merited appropriate punishment, the suggestion that his acting like a dumbass without actually harming a single person makes him somehow "unfit to play in the NBA" while guys like Artest and Jackson, whose actions have threatened people's safety, still have jobs is ridiculous. Basically it was a PR move caving to public pressure.

There's no questioning Stern's authority to suspend Arenas, but the timing and the wording of the announcement does raise questions about his specific motivations and the fairness of the punishment relative to suspensions that have been handed out for other player transgressions.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 7, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Such a double standard..

If someone came into your place of work with four guns and asked you to choose one, would you want to work with him? If he admitted his mistake but later pretended to be shooting you, would you want to be around him? If Gilby had just stopped with an apology, he might have been fine, but the fact is that he made a mockery of the events in question, of the league, and of his own professional responsibilities. I for one hope that he gets help because he clearly is too immature to know that he needs it. This is a really sad case, but he does not deserve special treatment because he is an athlete.

Posted by: lk11 | January 7, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

"There's no questioning Stern's authority to suspend Arenas, but the timing and the wording of the announcement does raise questions about his specific motivations and the fairness of the punishment relative to suspensions that have been handed out for other player transgressions."

The timing and the wording do "raise questions" in your mind? I'd say the decision to suspend now, based on Stern's own words and Arenas's words and actions after his lawyer's first "apology" for him and his own interview with law enforcement officials, suggest that Stern couldn't think of another way to shut the poor fool up.

After all, Arenas's lawyers had obviously failed, his friends and co-workers (if we believe Stevenson) had given it a shot . . . What else was there to do?

Despite the "indefinite" wording, this is a temporary suspension. When all legal and league investigations have been concluded, then we will see what the "real" punishment is or is not.

Posted by: nmik | January 7, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Wow, just wow. AS THE WORLD TURNS.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 7, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

The crazy thing is that I was typing a post about how I hope Stern didn't buckle under the media pressure and suspend him early...and before I could hit submit it said he was out.

He definitely brought it on himself though.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 7, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

"This is an unbeliveably sad story - I know Gilbert has his ideosyncracies and certainly very poor judgement but I never expected this. I wish Gilbert well."

Yeah I feel the same.

Just goes to show you don't really know someone by watching them on TV.

As many have said on here, Gil needs direction and really fast. Something is wrong with that guy. Hopefully that person will be his dad.

It's not even about basketball at this point.

A former state prosecutor on Washington Post Live said Gil could get 1-5 years per gun depending on the level of a charge prosecutors wanted to submit. He also said he did not think it would be "if" but "when."

"You have to feel sorry for Flip and the front office no matter how dumb you think they have been."

Yeah no kidding, especially Flip. Regardless what you think of him as a coach I'm sure he never would have expected this. In all likelyhood the team will be "blown up" when Leonsis takes over so it just drags him and the organization down even further.

"Any true Wiz fan knows why Gil was given the contract. Mr Pollin and EG would have never heard the end of it from fans to let Gil go."

That's not true, a lot of people on this very blog who follow the Wiz "religiously" felt the Wiz should have let Gil go. I was one of them. But again this is not about bball right now.

"So if the new stories are true, Crit not only jokingly threatened Gil at the beginning of the chain of events, but also drew the gun in the locker-room."

Yeah, that's what Comcast reported and that gun was very loaded and that there were witnesses. Crits could actually be in WORSE trouble right now.

As the Wiz Turns.....

Sucks. I miss being able to cheer my team on in the playoffs. I wonder how long it will be before the Leonsis thing is finalized.

Not to sound selfish but man we Wizards/Bullets fans sure have gone through a lot of crap here. I'm at a loss for words. :(

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 7, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

"I just want to remind him of who I am. I'm the kid who jumped off the trampoline at the all-star game, the kid who throws his jersey to people in the stands."

Wow.

That's just a "wow" from me.

I'm at a loss for words. He REALLY needs to shut up.

All you see is "kid" in that statement.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 7, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

"This is a really sad case, but he does not deserve special treatment because he is an athlete."

No one said he deserved special treatment because he's an athlete. But what he also doesn't deserve is to be treated differently than other NBA athletes have been punished for more serious transgressions. Said it before and I'll say it again, no one gives a rat's ass how things work in your office or mine, because our offices aren't in pro sports venues.

Should athletes be treated differently than everyone else? Maybe yes, maybe no, but the simple fact of the matter is that they are and always have been. That being fact, then fairness dictates that within their little sphere of existence there should be some consistency in how punishment is meted out from case to case. That doesn't seem to be the case here.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 7, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

So many people here talking about an "OVERREACTION".....U BRING A GUN(S) TO YOUR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT....YOU GET FIRED, PERIOD

Posted by: gray7 | January 7, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

I saw Jamison laughing it up in the picture of Arenas shooiting with this fingers, so Antwan doesn't "get it" either. It's time for all of these guys to go, Grunfeld included.

Posted by: john24 | January 7, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

kalo:

[ARENAS]......doesn't deserve is to be treated differently than other NBA athletes have been punished for more serious transgressions.

How about this latest story on JAVARIS CRITTENTON by MIKE WISE? A more serious transgression, if it's true of course? It that the type of thing you're talking about?

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 7, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Lotta of moral high ground taken on this issue. Dumb mistake (gambling on the plane), even dumber reactions (threatened phyisical violence), much dumber response (the showing of hand-guns) given a moronic situation (storing guns in an NBA facility), predictably idiotic response by JC (pulling out his own piece), inanely and deludely noble gesture (initial cover-up of JC's alleged crime), predictable statement (lawyer prepared) with inconsistent statements from GA. Calling someone Naive is a not wanting to call them stupid. Gil was stupid and remained stupid and was enjoying playing stupid as were his teammates.

That said, I am amazed that Poopy's Barno bashing drifted over to this stream.

Posted by: HughGRection | January 7, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

When Gilbert signed his $111M contract over two years ago, he was asked to be the leader of this team. He spoke at great length about it and agreed to take that responsibility. Is this it? Is this a leader? I'm disappointed beyond belief. Not too long ago, I was telling friends who live in LA how much I liked this guy and how I just thought he was a nice bright spot in the all-too-often thuggery of the NBA. How could I have been so stupid?

Posted by: ilovewilbon | January 7, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Crittendon is a punk. Sat back and let Gil take the brunt of the blame. Hope his arse gets reduced to playing for the Washington Generals against the Globetrotters.

Posted by: blackman1 | January 7, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Well, now he'll have time to reflect on how such a dummy he was for what he did. I think if this would've happened a few seasons ago when Gil was the man with his teamates none of this would've came out in the press. I think they don't get along with him any longer, so someone is telling "everything" to get him out of here. He said that he got the guns out because of the kids, so now he can stay home and be with the kids and tell them that guns are bad, especially for "grown men".

Posted by: ENJOYA | January 7, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

You know I don't care what ARENAS and CRITTENTON did and didn't do in the locker-room or on the plane. I'm tired of hearing about it. Don't see much today about the azz-whipping the CAV's put on us last night. Absolutely humiliating. Oh, I forgot. It's only because GA was suspended. Let's blame DAVID STERN. LOL.

I do however care that GILBERT is a cancer on this team and there's no realistic way short of voiding his contract to eliminate that destabilizing threat. Which I do NOT think will happen.

And I put part of the responsibility of where the WIZ are on the court squarely on his shoulders. He's being paid to be a leader and that would be funny if it weren't so sad.

I refuse to believe GRUNFELD is responsible for this mess, and I say again, until GILBERT's contract and his funky a** are cleared off this roster, funny and goof-ball will prevail.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 7, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

If the Picture of Gil shooting his teammates set off the Commish.
Then I won't be surprised if the rest of the team bears some fall out from this debacle.
Looks like everyone on the team was enjoying Gils last act of Immaturity in the NBA.

Posted by: VBFan | January 7, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

DC's strict gun laws, subject to the Surpreme Court's gun totin' proclivities, have been loosened for better or worse, worse imho.
Virginia law on handguns:

* Permit to purchase handgun? No.
* Registration of handguns? No.
* Licensing of owners of handguns? No.
* Permit to carry handguns? Yes. A permit is required if concealed.

We still don't have a court accounting of what happened and the telling and retelling has been all over the place up till now. Currently it seems that Arenas' foolish actions, particularly the maneuver just before the Philly game have brought him low before Stern and the NBA, not so much the initial incident.
Contrition, remorse, apologies and a low profile would probably have satisfied Stern; Arenas childishly went the other way. If Arenas undertakes some serious PR damage control and nothing worse than the current reports prove true, it's hard to see the transgressions listed to date warranting more than a ten game suspension; a more draconian punishment than the more serious actions of Stephen Jackson and Sebastian Telfair drew.

The outrage over the Wizards unique dysfunctionality is silly; scratch the surface anywhere else around the NBA or the NFL, MLB and past experience tells you what you'll find. Similar disturbing examples are plentifully available.
Ball players are generally not thoughtful reflective individuals, they play with inflated spheroids in groups of like minded, misguided innocents. There are, in the NBA, responsible adults aware that they are playing a child's game and how absurd and undeserved the attention, adulation and lavish compensation they receive is; they are the exceptions that prove the rule.
It's not just the NBA that's dysfunctional, the NBA is a piece of the puzzle, a microcosm of excess and depravity under the microscope of absurd, misplaced media scrutiny; focus the cameras and lights on our culture at large, billions for weapons and distant wars, a war on drugs and the resulting teeming prisons and a corrupt legal system. The richest 1 percent of Americans currently hold wealth worth $16.8 trillion, nearly $2 trillion more than the bottom 90 percent. A worker making $10 an hour would have to labor for more than 10,000 years to earn what one of the 400 richest Americans pocketed in 2005.

Functional? An egalitarian society? Well the homeless and hungry share the same streets the stretch limos ply, ferrying the plutocrats from their mansions to their jets and back. Meanwhile we've got our underpants in a knot over a basketball player. Fine, have at it.

Posted by: midlevex | January 7, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

How come the story hasnt turned 180degrees to Critt's actions?

If the eye-witness accounts are to be believed, gil played his idiotic joke and Critt responded with HIS OWN LOADED GUN.

shouldnt he be suspended pending investigation? warrant out for his arrest? At no point has anyone suggested Arenas had a loaded gun and that's why people thought he was an idiot, but not a dangerous person.

where's Critt?

Posted by: divi3 | January 7, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Mexico

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 7, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

i was gonna say Brazil, no extradition and better bball

Posted by: divi3 | January 7, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

and tha beaches ohhhhhhhhhh lawd tha beaches (it's funnier with the accent)

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 7, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

How is it that Arenas gets suspended indefinitely, yet a guy like Delonte West gets a pass for carrying multiple weapons in a guitar case and is allowed to rain 3-pointers on us all night?

Posted by: quinn3 | January 7, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/12755334/crazy-from-packing-the-heat-talk-of-arenas-lifetime-ban-is-ludicrous

here is a great article regarding the situation from someone who hasnt lost their mind over the situation

Posted by: jasonma1 | January 7, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

How come the story hasnt turned 180degrees to Critt's actions?

If the eye-witness accounts are to be believed, gil played his idiotic joke and Critt responded with HIS OWN LOADED GUN.

shouldnt he be suspended pending investigation? warrant out for his arrest? At no point has anyone suggested Arenas had a loaded gun and that's why people thought he was an idiot, but not a dangerous person.

where's Critt?

Just like I said last night...nobody cares. Critt is probably at practice RIGHT NOW. If it is true and Gil volunteered to take the heat and Critt said nothing and then lied again when asked about it...then what?

Bet everybodies favorite "Gossip Girl" won't be calling him MeCritt anytime soon.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 7, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/12755334/crazy-from-packing-the-heat-talk-of-arenas-lifetime-ban-is-ludicrous

here is a great article regarding the situation from someone who hasnt lost their mind over the situation

Posted by: jasonma1 | January 7, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Great article.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 7, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

glad to see at least 1 writer being sane about the whole issue.

for the reasons he lays out, it's not going to be possible to void Gil's contract and even a 35 game suspension may be contested by the players union. As it should be given previous penalties

Posted by: divi3 | January 7, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"Critt is probably at practice RIGHT NOW."

I would hope the team is not allowing him at the facility (with pay) pending more info, though I doubt it since the firsthand accounts have been known about by the organization from the get-go.

Tossing an unloaded gun across the locker room, loading a clip into your own, and cocking the hammer is not enough to be internally disciplined?

No wonder this team always sucks

Posted by: divi3 | January 7, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Is is just me, but doesn't the coach sound more and more like Jim Zorn at the podium after each game. He seems to be clueless about how to change the direction of the team to make it a winner. What is so frustrating is to see him not utilize the talent that is on the bench. He is coming across as an old stubborn man set in his ways. Remember how Jim Zorn kept utilizing Randle El over and over for punt returns. Why does the coach keep putting in Stevenson in the game? Why doesn't he used an athletic line-up instead of putting in the tired oberto in the game? He doesn't have the skills to compete with the talent that he is guarding every night. The game is lost once he is in the game. He refuses to utilize his bench. I hate the Wizards.

Posted by: taeyyenom | January 7, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

here's a guy (Critt) whose nba career is hanging by a thread and he feels comfortable not only with throwing Arenas' gun but pulling his own loaded weapon? In front of other players and employees?

either reflects the zards as the absolute, bottom of the barrel, dregs of the league (as an organization top to bottom) that many people have always viewed them as.

Or guns and this type of "joking around" are so common throughout the league that he didnt think he was that far out of order.

How do you coach players with loaded guns in their locker?

Maybe that's the real reason so many teams in the nba are godawful

Posted by: divi3 | January 7, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to Caron Butler who was NOT in the circle as Wild Gil shot his finger pistols in what was hopefully his last game as a Wizard in Philly..

Caron from what I can tell is the only guy not in the circle laughing it up.

Good for you CB..

Posted by: kevenjones | January 7, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

One of the posters above mentioned the Antonio Daniels trade. I think Antonio was the one who kept everyone in line in that locker room and with him around I believe he would have pulled Arenas by coat tails. My question is, where is his father in all of this. Had he been my son, I would have reamed his arse and told him to STFU! I truly hope that now all of this has come down on Areans that he is not only putting his foot up his behind but that he is mixing it with love. Yes what he did was wrong, but emotionally Areans is a kid at heart and I truly hope this doesn't break his spirit too much and send him spiraling even futher into the abyss. He was definitely in the wrong but I still have empathy for him because now pretty much EVERYONE it seems is tossing him under the bus when what he needs now is someone on his side. Not necessarily defending his actions but letting him know that regardless they are still there for him and will see him through this mess he created. As for Crittendon, he is new to the team and Areans did not know who he was dealing with because they don't know each other like that. It is apparent Crittendon was not in for jokes and he also should have to be made responsible for the gun he had.

Augghhh! What a huge mess! However, I am still a Wiz faithful and hope that somehow this ship is righted before it goes off the cliff.

Posted by: ivyleague | January 7, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"I am still a Wiz faithful and hope that somehow this ship is righted before it goes off the cliff."

that ship done sailed

Posted by: divi3 | January 7, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Critt is probably at practice RIGHT NOW."

I would hope the team is not allowing him at the facility (with pay) pending more info, though I doubt it since the firsthand accounts have been known about by the organization from the get-go.

Tossing an unloaded gun across the locker room, loading a clip into your own, and cocking the hammer is not enough to be internally disciplined?

No wonder this team always sucks

Posted by: divi3 | January 7, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

It appears that Gil was trying to cover for this guy (if the story is true) so he would not get into serious trouble. Gil's charges are likely misdemeanors-Critt's, if true are a felony (assault, etc.). Sounds now liek Gil wasn't even in the card game so he didn't even owe money to anyone.

Posted by: ptp23 | January 7, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to Caron Butler who was NOT in the circle as Wild Gil shot his finger pistols in what was hopefully his last game as a Wizard in Philly..

Caron from what I can tell is the only guy not in the circle laughing it up.

Good for you CB..

Posted by: kevenjones | January 7, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

not in the circle or not in the photo? just because the camera didn't catch him doesn't mean he wasn't there. believe half of what u see and none of what you hear, especially in this situation.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 7, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I know for a fact Critt has been practicing. They reported it and said he slipped out a back door to avoid reporters or something. If they didn't sit Gil, they DEFINITELY didn't sit Critt.

It's crazy how even ESPN is still saying they drew guns on each other after a card game.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 7, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

and tha beaches ohhhhhhhhhh lawd tha beaches (it's funnier with the accent)

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 7, 2010 11:04 AM |

LOL!

And very curvaceous too!!

Posted by: and_1 | January 7, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I can see Gil being a superstar oversees with that personality. It may actually be a perfect fit. He would rule the courts and could still make big dough!
His "too cool for school" attitude here just aint gonna wash.

Posted by: davemichelle07 | January 8, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

"I can see Gil being a superstar oversees with that personality. It may actually be a perfect fit. He would rule the courts and could still make big dough!
His "too cool for school" attitude here just aint gonna wash.

Posted by: davemichelle07 | January 8, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse "

Yeah, he'd be like a pet monkey.

Amusing.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 9, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

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