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Josh Howard is done for the season [Updated]

Washington Wizards guard-forward Josh Howard will miss the rest of the season with a torn ACL in his left knee, the team said today.

Howard was injured late in the first quarter of yesterday's 101-95 victory over the Chicago Bulls at Verizon Center, tempering the Wizards' third win in four games since a series of trades revamped the roster.

Howard, an all-star in 2007, was the featured acquistion during a player purge that sent Antawn Jamison to Cleveland and Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson to Dallas.

Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld said Howard would have surgery once the inflammation in his knee subsides, which could be in a week or two. Grunfeld also said the team would explore options with regard to filling the roster spot but that the team does not receive any special dispensation as far as the salary cap because of the season-ending injury.

Howard, who was averaging 17 points per game through his first three with the team, had scored seven points before falling to the court with just under four and half minutes to play in the opening period. He lay on the court for several minutes before being helped to his feet and to the locker room.

1:05: Coach Flip Saunders said he found out about about the injury approximately a half-hour into the team's morning practice at Verizon Center. The news was so fresh that some players had not realized the severity of Howard's injury until informed by the media.

"That's devastating. I really didn't know it was that serious," said Al Thornton, one of the Wizards' new arrivals who scored 17 points, including a critical basket in the final two minutes, against Chicago. "We're going to keep him in our prayers and hope he gets well soon."

Wizards Coach Flip Saunders said Thornton would take over in the starting lineup for Howard.

By Gene Wang  |  February 23, 2010; 12:47 PM ET
 
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The CURSE OF LES BOULES (WIZARDS) strikes yet again. This team has THE worst luck especially with injuries. Looks like his next contract just went down 4-6 million- kind of feel bad for the guy. Anyone who comes to DC should be ready to watch their career go downhill- it's been happening for 30 years and it's not gonna change any time soon.

Posted by: wizfan4lyfe | February 23, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

now Flip wil be forced to lean on Nick Young, time to step up kid

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Ernie should sign him to a max contract this summer

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey Blurred - Josh Howard isn't busy, sign him to the extension now!

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | February 23, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow, how surprising...not.

They should change the name back to the Bullets, obvious these Wizards have no magic!

Posted by: DaveLopan | February 23, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

In an odd way this may help the Wizards resign him at a way more affordable price.

I hope the medical staff can build enough trust with him during rehab that he would want to stay aboard.

On the other hand, there are a bunch of quality 2s and 3s in this years draft.

Posted by: elfreako | February 23, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Thorton'd better be ready to play heavy minutes.

Feel sorry for Howard, wish him speedy recovery. As to the team, if we are chasing the playoff, then yes, this is a big loss. If we are not, then I do not see this as a big deal, since we are evaluating young/unknown players anyway. I do not see the team will pick up Howard's option even before his injury. I would not be against the team signing him, but not at that price.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 23, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Geesh .. man that sucks.

Posted by: boblas | February 23, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Ernie should sign him to a max contract this summer
Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

False. Should be about a million dollars a year less than the max deal, so the team has some "flexibility" when pursuing other free agents.

Posted by: bryc3 | February 23, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow, there really must be a curse on this team. He was really looking good for this team and a perfect fit for Flip's offense. Shame, hope he has a full and speedy recovery.

Posted by: zxhoya | February 23, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

knew it when I saw it. He went down the same way I did when I had the injury.

Welcome to DC!

Posted by: millineumman | February 23, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

A little sympathy here, please!

Josh was playing good ball during his short stint with the Wizzies and he just took a big time physical, emotional and probably economic hit.

I do agree that it is Nick Young's time to step up but if we want another apparently clueless gunner as insurance at the 2-guard, I gather Morris Almond is tearing up the D-League but was still traded by his coach, the indomitable Dee Brown.

Posted by: khrabb | February 23, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm lost: This team has been dismantled; Arenas is suspended, etc. I, for one, am glad that Butler, Haywood and Jamison get to move on and go to clubs that value their skills and professionalism. So, next year, what? Arenas just comes back, jokes it off or asks for forgiveness and 'we' the fans are supposed to spend our hard earned money for this product? What's the status of his contract being voided? Moving Areanas is what constitutes 'starting over'...

Posted by: jimmycliff01 | February 23, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again with the same old bad news. Everytime we get something going, it never fells, someone go's out on a season ending injury. So know where do we go from here. JH was doing his thing helping this team win games, being one of the goto guys. with him being out for the season, who will be the person to fill his shoes. I guess we will have to hold our breath and see what happens.

Posted by: clt200057 | February 23, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Unbeleivable. I feel sorry for Howard but from the team's stand point it's not as big as deal. Now we can tank properly and get that fat draft pick. Go Wiz!

Posted by: Rocky420 | February 23, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Nick Young is too busy pouting with his head down when he misses a shot to step up. It is disappointing, I thought he going to be a star, I was wrong. Blatche on the other hand........

Posted by: zxhoya | February 23, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Aww crap. Howard was a good addition. He provided aggressiveness that hopefully these guys can continue doing.

On another note, I hope this doesn't mean that Miller thinks that he really has to be a playmaker now.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 23, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

When did the Curse start? Was it with Kevin Porter's knee, Jeff Ruland's feet and knees, Frank Johnson's foot, John Lucas' head?

Did the curse get started when psuedo-free agency started and the Bullets swapped Mitch Kupchack for some beans?

It is unnerving what this team goes through.

Posted by: MikeNelmsReturns | February 23, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Injuries are not indigenous to the Wiz...hello Portland, Knicks, Bucks etc...
It is the way of the sports world.
You have large athletic and over muscled young men, who continue to work out to get bigger and more vulnerable.
Plus the NBA schedule and physical play, on spindly legs create the inevitable injuries. They are like thoroughbreds, let's be happy they don't shoot bballers like horses, don't they.
So let's frop the paranoia and enjoy the players we still have.
Go NY...

Posted by: mricklen | February 23, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

This most have been part of Ernie's plan?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 23, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

It scares me that we now have to "depend on Nick Young"...becasue is never going to measure up. I have waiting for him since his arrival to show a little consistency in his game. I do give me an "A" for effort for the last couple of games, diving for loose balls, etc. The Bullets/Wizards every year have the same "curse", injuries or playing just well enough to not get a lottery pick, then when we do we get a Kwame Brown! Explain to me how we won only 19 games last year and would up with the 5th pick...damn I love em', but sure would like to see them catch a good "break" for a change.

Posted by: NatsFan2 | February 23, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Better the Wiz then the Caps....get well soon.

Posted by: SA-Town | February 23, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Not sure who has worst luck, The Boulez or Ernie Grunfeld. Or maybe the Verizon/MCI Center is cursed!!

Posted by: mugengsr1 | February 23, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Ernie should sign him to a max contract this summer


Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 12:59 PM

Are you nuts? Grunfeld should wait until Howard has two surgeries and two major rehab setbacks, then offer him a little more than he gave Gilbert, since Howard actually plays both ends of the court.

Posted by: gimmedat | February 23, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Nick Young does have a lot of "Jarvis Hayes" in him.

Posted by: MikeNelmsReturns | February 23, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I know people are down on Dom MacGuire, but I think he would have been a nice fill-in for Howard at SF, given this team's new defensive mindset.

Posted by: gimmedat | February 23, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

It's official, they're cursed.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 23, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

wiz should look to add brian butch, dj white or rob kurz from the d league

Posted by: bford1kb | February 23, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

beat a playoff team without Howard last night, all is not lost.

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

This is really a tough blow since it looked like Howard would be (a) a great fit for Flip's offense and (b) looked like a veteran leader for a young team that was starting to jell. Regardless of whether the Wiz wanted to pick up his $11.8M option at the end of the year, EG was likely considering bringing him back at a lower salary if he continued to play well the rest of the seaon. With a torn ACL, I don't see the Wiz or any team willing to commit to any type of deal for Howard until he proved he was healthy which could be a year from now.

Tough blow for Howard who seemed happy to be here and was setting a good example for the young players like Thornton, AB, and Foye to follow. The trade with Dallas looks even worse now that all we will have to show for it is cap relief, Singleton, and Ross (both of whom are role players). Not getting a draft pick in that trade now looks even worse. Also, the momentum the team seemed to have gained since the trade will be down the drain without the 'go to' guy needed down the stretch of close games.

Posted by: wizfan89 | February 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Unbeleivable. I feel sorry for Howard but from the team's stand point it's not as big as deal. Now we can tank properly and get that fat draft pick. Go Wiz!

Posted by: Rocky420 | February 23, 2010 1:12 PM

I don't know where you've been Rocky, but that doesn't apply to this team. The Wiz have an overwhelming history of moving BACK in the lottery, not getting a fat pick. Such is (Wizards) life.

Posted by: gimmedat | February 23, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe I'm going to write this...

but I'm starting to think "KAL" is right?

Great player would have done the surgery themselves during the second quarter, done their rehab during halftime and played the rest of the game!

Who needs a coach, doctors or trainers.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 23, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

DMac is not a good addition to any NBA team hoping to have any success. Yes, he could have filled in for Josh Howard but it would not have led to any victories -- just a warm body. And looks like we have a group of comedians re the max contract jokes. So funny....

Posted by: Chad32 | February 23, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

This team and franchise has to have THE WORSE LUCK in the history of LUCK! WHAT NEXT?

Posted by: whatyoutalkinboutman | February 23, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Al Thornton will step up and perform well for the Wiz. Howard's injury is devastating, but as I suggested earlier today on a different blog, the loss of Josh Howard will be the opportunity for Nick Young to showcase his talents.

Posted by: musicmanjr | February 23, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

The curse must be real. But, thats why I belive there should NEVER be a max contract. B-Ball is a contact sport and most are a slip away from being injured, often leaving a team with very little flexability. Sorry Josh, looks like your $12M just "slipped" away. A restructured contract should not be too bad if you stay.

Posted by: Gooddad | February 23, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

maybe this will give the team even more reason to play inspired bball.

Posted by: jefferu | February 23, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Sad to see this.JH is areal defender with a dependale offensive contribution.He still need to be consdered as a future for this rebuilding.It is hard to get a complete player like Jh who can play 2 positions and can handle the ball if needed.the coach need to talk to Ny, he is probably worried about his play time every time he make mistake,this is a true test season they have to be easy at him and probably consult a pshychologist.

Posted by: gtefferra | February 23, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

it's time for mike miller to take the shackles off his game. not to shoot first and pass second, but to incorprate his shot into the flow of the offense. howard being hurt isn't good or bad, it just is. as always, someone will need to step up and miller is the obvious choice. howard was here for 3 and 1/4 games, so his absence shouldn't be that dramatic, on the court anyway. he wasn't missed all that greatly in the 3rd and 4th quarters last night. to think these guys will fall apart now is not realistic. they just got together.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | February 23, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

feel bad for him, but the injury brings nick young to the party and may result in a few more shot attempts per game for the most important player on the team- AB.

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Paging Nick Young

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 23, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I for one am sorry to hear about Josh Howard's injury. Despite what you may feel about him, he came in here playing his behind off and does not deserve some of the mean posts. I hope he heals well and would like to see him in a Wiz uni last year. Everyone deserves a fresh start and a second chance and I thought that his being here would provide that. I am not sure if I was a player that I would come here. The fans here (at least on these blogs) literally rips all of the players apart and does not seem to show real support. Hopefully they can continue to play with the aggressiveness that Howard has shown since he came and that they can sustain the succes they have shown so far.

Posted by: ivyleague | February 23, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Flip should go with Nick Young in the starting lineup over Thorton, at the moment. Give NY a good run of games for the rest of the season and see what he can do. We know that Nick isn't quite their defensively at times, and becomes a black hole from time to time on offense but given consistent minutes we might see some of those things start to turn around for the better. And maybe if Flip starts to see a turnaround in NY's overall play he will invest more time in developing his talents, or have one of his assistants take the time to push NY to the next/another level in his basketball career.

I think Thorton can provide us with something off the bench that NY just isn't capable of doing. Thorton is a high energy player and that's what you need off your bench when the starters start losing some steam.

Posted by: jonnyflo14 | February 23, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I meant next year.

Posted by: ivyleague | February 23, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"it's time for mike miller to take the shackles off his game."

what you're seeing IS his game

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

the 'luck' of the Wizards continues for those wearing the uniform :-)

this team needs the hex removed and as soon as the sale to Leonsis is finalized I think it will be.

Posted by: leopard09 | February 23, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Buzzard's luck.

I hope this leads to something good that none us can foresee (like getting a top-three pick), but I'm not optimistic based on the aforementioned luck.
The guys are this team are scrappy as hell and will play hard regardless, but they're not going to do a lot winning without Howard for the rest of the season unless another scorer (Nick Young, step up). Anyone holding their breath at the prospect of LA Smooth filling the void?

Posted by: and_1 | February 23, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. That's all I have to say.

Nick Young is not ready. He's the softest guy on the roster. I'd pick Boykins over Nick Young in a fight right now.

Posted by: jimwest20 | February 23, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow. To bad for Josh. Watch for Thornton's numba's to sore. He definately looks to score.

Posted by: thecomedian1 | February 23, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Meant to say:

The guys on this team are scrappy as hell and will play hard regardless, but they're not going to do a lot winning without Howard for the rest of the season unless another scorer appears (Nick Young, step up).

Posted by: and_1 | February 23, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

OMG, I called this so bad last night. I said the Wiz always say something is a sprain or something minor and then the next day we find out the guy is nearly dead. I knew they would come back with a torn ACL. I just knew it. Im sick of people giving these guys the benefit of doubt. Our training staff sucks and all of them need to be fired.


On a side note, it really sucks for him because he fit in our system well and there was still a slight chance that we would take the team option on him but there is no chance of that now, espically with his & our past with injuries. Now he's probably going to get half of that somewhere next year. It still could be us but it very well may be over for him here

Posted by: dlts20 | February 23, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

nick young is a very sensitive guy...that being said, he only needs to relax and allow his game to show(if he has one). he has talent, but does he really want to play. is he concentrating on the moments on the floor, or still looking over his shoulder at the bench? when he stops doing that his game(or lack thereof) will show. i believe he can contribute, flashes have shown, like blatch consistancy(PT) is the key. put him out there and tell him don't even look towards the bench unless you here me call you.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | February 23, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Nick Young is so soft he makes Brendan Haywood look like Kimbo Slice. If Boykins and Nick Young got in the Octagon, Boykins would have NY begging for his momma within 2 minutes.

Posted by: jimwest20 | February 23, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Ernie should sign him to a max contract this summer."

I laughed at this.

But I feel sorry for Howard. Dude, might miss next year also. :(

Man, you know I have played down the "curse" over the years but it's unavoidable.

Dear Ted. When you take over the Wiz make sure you sacrifice a chicken and call whatever voo-doo people that you need to, to get rid of this negative haze that surrounds the franchise.

It's almost laughable.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 23, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Start Young, give him plenty of minutes and let's see what we have here

Posted by: BruinSteve | February 23, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow!!!! sucks to be a Wizard's fan!


Z is coming home! :D

GO CAVS!

Posted by: irishcav | February 23, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

It does seem like as soon as guys beging to play here something major happens.(Mike Miller) Maybe they should get some new uni's and burn the others. Damn! I still can't believe it but I am not surprised. Just hate to see it happen when this team appear to be ready to turn this ship around. But, on a positive note, maybe Nick will step up. Time will tell. Can they sign anyone else or are they still liable for his salary even though he is injured and will another person count against the salary cap they are trying to shed?

Posted by: ivyleague | February 23, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I'll keep Grunfeld.

FIRE THE MEDICAL STAFF. ALL OF THEM.

They are not fit to open a box of band-aids.

Posted by: mabkhar | February 23, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Could be a lot worse for the Wiz. He could blew up his knee at the beginning of the next contract instead at the end of the current one.

Posted by: rockbroker | February 23, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

sign Juwan Howard to a minimum contract and pretend it is Josh.

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Yikes!

Posted by: rbpalmer | February 23, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm lost: This team has been dismantled; Arenas is suspended, etc. I, for one, am glad that Butler, Haywood and Jamison get to move on and go to clubs that value their skills and professionalism. So, next year, what? Arenas just comes back, jokes it off or asks for forgiveness and 'we' the fans are supposed to spend our hard earned money for this product? What's the status of his contract being voided? Moving Areanas is what constitutes 'starting over'...

Posted by: jimmycliff01 | February 23, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

hard earned money? Unless you are living in europe, what are you doing at this blog during worktime? lol

Posted by: Goelez | February 23, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

@divi3

then miller is in the wrong business...maybe he should try curling, or croquet. basketball includes shooting the ball on occaision, if he can't get it out of his hand towards the basket....then i don't know...it's sad to me...nick can't stop looking to the bench, miller can't or won't put up a shot. ironic.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | February 23, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what he wants. what do we want?

Posted by: Blurred
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Tell me then, "what do we want?"

Do we want to save say, 1 million (while paying him 4 millions) and let Z go, or pay him 5 million, and play for Wizards for the remainder of the season (knowing that this is a lost season anyway)?

Posted by: sagaliba | February 23, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Dear Ted. When you take over the Wiz make sure you sacrifice a chicken and call whatever voo-doo people that you need to, to get rid of this negative haze that surrounds the franchise.

It's almost laughable.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 23, 2010 1:52 PM


And kindly request that they sit Blatche and McGee until you perform said sacrifice, Ted!

Posted by: and_1 | February 23, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Irishcav. I got a word for ya', but can't repeat here. We'll be fine. Good luck with your JAMISON rabbit's foot.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Please use James Andrews or whoever is the best ACL surgeon around.

Posted by: audacitea | February 23, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I have no particular foresight, but I suspected this might happen, based on the injuries Howard has been struggling with for really a couple seasons now. They're directly related to his fall from grace in Dallas. He just couldn't stay on the court at any sort of productive level. Players deny injuries and coaches like to pretend its all about psychology and motivation, but these guys are paid for physical skills.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 23, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

what you're seeing IS his game

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

True,true. Why were the T-WOLVES paying him 9.75 again? I mean as glue, 5-6 mill sounds much more reasonable.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

look at this way: the Wiz need that high lottery pick in a big way, and too many victories, while entertaining, are not hte way to get it.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 23, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

What a season!
Wow!
What's next?
Things start looking up and then this.
NY could see this as a good thing and grow up. All he has to do is work his butt off at both ends of the floor. Maybe "Every day Dray" could give him some tips.

Flip needs to limit the number of bounces of the ball Earl & Nick can do before they have to pass or shoot.

Posted by: VBFan | February 23, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

True,true. Why were the T-WOLVES paying him 9.75 again? I mean as glue, 5-6 mill sounds much more reasonable.

Posted by: glawrence007

maybe i'm seeing things, but he looks a little gimpy right now to me. Could be he looked better compared to our previous group of stand-around-and-watch vets, and now with the team more dynamic he looks slower.

But I think he's hurting

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that if you have an Ilgauskas on your roster, but he hasn't reported to the team, shouldn't he be docked pay?

Otherwise, doesn't this team need bodies in the front court?
Can't he play while a buy outs being negotiated?
Same for Mike James, Foye and Boykins are getting ate up on the defensive end. Can James be any worse?

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

nick young sucks and you can play him as many minutes as you want and he will still suck. i would prefer to play journeyman james singleton, next year nick young will go by the new name of "nick young and his expiring contract"

Posted by: billy12 | February 23, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Just means they won't be picking up that option. So $11 more for the cap...and more minutes of Foye, Nick, Al, Dray and McGee.

Silver lining?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 23, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"what you're seeing IS his game"

Yep. Being a no-conscious gunner simply isn't in his makeup, although he certainly has the skills for it. Funny that some of the same people getting onhis case also got on Jamison, Arenas, and Butler for shooting too much. Can't please some folks, apparently.

Too bad about Howard. It creates an interesting situation for the Wiz. If he'd played well and stayed healthy, they likely would have picked up his 1-year option and been able to use him (and his expiring contract) in a trade almost as a given. Now, with the impending belt tightening the NBA will face under a new CBA, there's still a chance that some team could deal for him at next year's deadline to dump some salary. Would the Wiz be willing to tie up that roster spot/cap space to then on such an uncertain gamble? Probably not, but it presents an interesting scenario.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 23, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Enjoyed watching Josh Howard for the very brief time he was here.
Coming off serious knee surgery, he will have to kiss that team option goodbye. That is a shame.
He was the closest thing this team had to a closer.

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Just our luck.

Posted by: tundey | February 23, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Note to all the Nick Young lovers: Don't set your DVRs just yet. Given Flip's apparently less that brimming confidence in the Young-ster, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Quinton Ross unleashed.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 23, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

AHHHHHHHHH CRAPPPPPPPPP. Now any SLIM chance we have (call me crazy) is OVER now. So unfair. I thought it was a sprain. UGH.

Posted by: rachel216 | February 23, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

dont fret peeps, things are looking up for the Wiz. You can tell by the lack of bullets78 and DC_Mann posts

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Totally agree with Samson151. Howard already had a predisposition to injuries based on the fact that he never played a full 82 games season in his career. Granted he was playing hard for the Wizards but he was coming off a recent injury last year and he almost injured himself already against Denver when he stepped on a fan's beer. There was no curse, it was inevitable. Besides, this is a great opportunity for both Al Thornton and Nick Young to get more playing time. Especially if both are to be part of the young core of talents for next year.

Posted by: JohnWWW | February 23, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Quinton Ross unleashed:

Great movie wasn't it. Better than the JOSH HOWARD story.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

miller doesn't need to be an unconcious gunner, he just needs to put up the appropriate shot in the flow of the game as it presents itself...obviously he doesn't do that. not being an unconcious gunner is what is refreshing about him, but he should use his skills to the max. like gil is a great offensive player with all the quickness, but he doesn't use his quickness to play defense. look how that works. i do understand now why miller is not an elite player. sad.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | February 23, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

considering the team has setup a "Miller MVP" zone at the VC, i suppose he'd best start taking more shots.

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that if you have an Ilgauskas on your roster, but he hasn't reported to the team, shouldn't he be docked pay?

Otherwise, doesn't this team need bodies in the front court?
Can't he play while a buy outs being negotiated?

Well, we could use Z, but he refused to put on a WIZARDS uni, and went home instead. Wants to pout, and be paid for it. I say he should pay, not play. 5 mill big, not the other way 'round. Of course, every game he doesn't participate in as a WIZARD counts against the balance of his expiring. I'd offer a $1.00 buy-out, and wait. Let him twist in the wind if he wants to blow off 5 MILL.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Tell me then, "what do we want?"

Do we want to save say, 1 million (while paying him 4 millions) and let Z go, or pay him 5 million, and play for Wizards for the remainder of the season (knowing that this is a lost season anyway)?

Posted by: sagaliba | February 23, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse


I'd say that is up to the coach and GM, but let's give them some advice:

Last thinng we need is an old slow stand around center to clog up the rhythm we have going.

I say: Offer him a seat on the bench for the rest of the season or a $.75 mil buyout. if he doesn't want to do either, he can just sit around at home and not get paid.

For once...we are in a a good negotiating position. We don't give a durn about Z or where he goes or what he does, as long as it isn't setting foot on the court in a Wiz uniform.

Low ball him and then ignore him.

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

"Could be a lot worse for the Wiz. He could blew up his knee at the beginning of the next contract instead at the end of the current one.

Posted by: rockbroker"

Except that his next contract was guaranteed to be elsewhere. And for a hell of a lot less than he was making on this one.

As far as Josh Howard is concerned, this is the worst possible scenario for the Wizards. This is the highest value contract he will ever be playing under, and for the portion that the Wizards are paying, he is under the knife. The Mavericks are breathing a Texas-sized sigh of relief.

Essentially, we sent out Haywood, Butler and Jamison for Howard, Ilgauskas and Thornton. Howard is done for the season and Ilgauskas wants to go back to Cleveland. If Grunfeld hadn't managed to trade Gooden for Thornton, we would have given away three starters for three guys who either can't, or don't want to play for the Wiz.

Best of luck to Howard for his surgery and recovery, that was just a tough break. As a double member of the knee surgery club, I have a lot of sympathy for him.

Posted by: mabkhar | February 23, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

and speaking of the VC, kudos to management for finally setting up a "season ticket holder" express line at all the concessions. No longer have to wait 30mins behind jackoff kids in Lebron jerseys just to get a beer

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Too bad about Howard. It creates an interesting situation for the Wiz. If he'd played well and stayed healthy, they likely would have picked up his 1-year option and been able to use him (and his expiring contract) in a trade almost as a given. Now, with the impending belt tightening the NBA will face under a new CBA, there's still a chance that some team could deal for him at next year's deadline to dump some salary. Would the Wiz be willing to tie up that roster spot/cap space to then on such an uncertain gamble? Probably not, but it presents an interesting scenario.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 23, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

There was no way the Wiz were going to pick up his option even before the injury. The main reason they made that trade was to clear Butler's salary and he was slated to make 2 millions less. Not only is the organization tying to save as much money as possible but it is in a rebuilding mode and paying Josh $12 million would be contradictory to the team's plans.
Now, I do see them turning the option down and offered him a multi year deal starting at a much lesser salary (6-7 millions). Obviously, it will now depend on his injury status, other offers he receives from other teams, his willingness to play in a rebuilding team....

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 23, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

But I think he's hurting

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Could be. Course you'd never hear it from the D.C. media. Sumpthin''ud hafta' fall of the man first.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

"For once...we are in a a good negotiating position. We don't give a durn about Z or where he goes or what he does, as long as it isn't setting foot on the court in a Wiz uniform."

Agreed. The Wizards have no incentive whatsoever to do the Cavs any kind of favor. They already got off easy by maneuvering the Clippers into the deal, allowing them to hang onto Hickson. Screw 'em.

Either Z surrenders as much of his salary as the CBA allows to pay off his ransom, or he acts like the pro everyone always lauds him for being and play for the team that's paying him, or he makes the owner of the local big and tall men's clothing store a happy man as he's forced to supplement his wardrobe as he spends the rest of the season in street clothes at the end of the bench.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 23, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Bad news but at least we got rid of Dominic McGuire. This guy could not make a layup with nobody around.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | February 23, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Poor Josh Howard. You could tell he was working really hard to start over here, too. Fortunately, guys make pretty good comebacks from ACL tears these days. I can remember that back int eh day, it was a career-threatening injury.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | February 23, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"what you're seeing IS his game"

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"True,true. Why were the T-WOLVES paying him 9.75 again? I mean as glue, 5-6 mill sounds much more reasonable."

Posted by: glawrence007

I couldn't find the details on his contract (in part because he's been traded a few times), but most NBA deals grow by 15-20% per year, meaning that a deal is more expensive in it's final year. So the average for his contract probably was in the 6-7 mil range. Plus, he has a couple of nice things on his resume being a rookie of the year with the Magic and a 6th Man of the Year with Memphis.

Posted by: ts35 | February 23, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone be really surprised at this? Especially this year. The curse of Les Boules lives! Please buy the team Ted and rescue it from the curse.

Posted by: dboz1970 | February 23, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I was going to hollar about the curse, but everyone seems to realize that.

Posted by: coastallp74 | February 23, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Last thinng we need is an old slow stand around center to clog up the rhythm we have going....We don't give a durn about Z or where he goes or what he does, as long as it isn't setting foot on the court in a Wiz uniform.

Low ball him and then ignore him.

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 2:41 PM

Preach it! Who cares what that oaf wants? If he reports, he's a big body in practice and that's it. Dont need a 7ft'er launching 3s just as we're starting to play inside more

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

If there is no agreement between the Cavs and the Wiz for Z, lets trade him to another team for a good SG. With Howard out for the season, its time for Z to pay dividends. Lets see how bad the Cavs want him back.

Posted by: wiz_fan | February 23, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

You guys have no faith.
Now is the time for Gilbert Arenas to put on his Agent Zero cape and go out and carry the team on his shoulders.

What's that you say? Gilbert Arenas isn't playing either? Why not? Did he get hurt again like he did the last two years? I thought he recovered from his injuries. Seriously? Suspended? For the rest of the season? You mean he's got one of the best contracts in the NBA and he's not playing? I thought he was what they were building the team around; that he was THE franchise, the man who was going to be THE MAN as far as this team was concerned. So what happened? What did he do to get suspended? Serious? You're SERIOUS? Wow!! This team is in trouble. Well, at least they've got... no; wait, you said they traded who?

Forget it. I'm changing my mind. I don't think this team will get very deep into the playoffs.

xminusone@gmail.com

Posted by: Dungarees | February 23, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"AHHHHHHHHH CRAPPPPPPPPP. Now any SLIM chance we have (call me crazy) is OVER now. So unfair. I thought it was a sprain. UGH."

You're crazy. ;)

Actually I think reality will set in after the next five games. They can win all of those, but after that March gets very tough.

This is why is was a shame that the previous squad couln't beat the stinky teams they were playing at the time. I mean if they were just 5 games better in the win column the playoffs could be realistic, but then EG might not have sent everyone packing.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 23, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Could it be the trainers and the training methods? Is there a statistical analysis of frequency and severity of injuries by team? Something is not right when this happens over and over again to Les Boules. I blame Tony Kornheiser...

Posted by: DontGetIt | February 23, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"If there is no agreement between the Cavs and the Wiz for Z, lets trade him to another team for a good SG. With Howard out for the season, its time for Z to pay dividends. Lets see how bad the Cavs want him back."

Unfortunately, the trade deadline has already passed.

Posted by: LonnieBeale1 | February 23, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe people are still hoping for a playoff spot. The best scenario right now is for them to get the 1st pick in the draft.

Posted by: Dave381 | February 23, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

a nice goal for the team is finish with a better record than Charlotte, then send MJ a thank you note for being dense enough to reject the AB for Augustine trade

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Could it be the trainers and the training methods? Is there a statistical analysis of frequency and severity of injuries by team?"

Dude was here for THREE games, I don't think you can blame the Wiz directly for this one.

Anybody have that sacrificial chicken yet?

A bucket of KFC even?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 23, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

If there is no agreement between the Cavs and the Wiz for Z, lets trade him to another team for a good SG. With Howard out for the season, its time for Z to pay dividends. Lets see how bad the Cavs want him back.

Posted by: wiz_fan | February 23, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

not a half bad idea. Who you thinking?

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

If there is no agreement between the Cavs and the Wiz for Z, lets trade him to another team for a good SG. With Howard out for the season, its time for Z to pay dividends. Lets see how bad the Cavs want him back.

Posted by: wiz_fan | February 23, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

not a half bad idea. Who you thinking?

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 3:02 PM

it is called the "trade DEADLINE" for a reason. no more trades this season and big Z comes off the books this summer.

Posted by: Berghead | February 23, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

@WizFan:

"If there is no agreement between the Cavs and the Wiz for Z, lets trade him to another team for a good SG."

Don't you think this would have been the first thing EG would have tried to do if it was even a remote possibility (ala Drew Gooden)??? Unfortunately, Z's got a sazquach sized contract which NO team can currently afford. So, we are stuck with him at the moment. Fact is, he is not a good fit for us with the group we have right now. We are not going anywhere this year besides the lottery and all he would do is slow us down and plod around the court for 30 games- no thanks. Better to see what the young guys can do and evaluate what we have this year... buy him out and be done with it. Moving on...

Posted by: wizfan4lyfe | February 23, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Josh we wish you a speedy recovery and all the best. It was a pleasure to watch you play in a Wizards uniform.

Posted by: moralcompass1 | February 23, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

First report about replacing Josh Howard with a D leaguer...

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2010/2/23/1323222/rgvs-mike-harris-to-be-called-up

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow, no resign of HOWARD. ILGAUSKAS nowhere in sight. How many live bodies does the league require to have a team mimimum of players? Is it eight with medical exceptions. With two year-long suspensions, MIKE JAMES sent home and PAUL DAVIS, we're down to eleven live bodies. Well, FLIP said in camp he'd only use nine players regularly. I guess he's going to get his wish.

IFFY and EXPIRING CONTRACTS:

ILGAUSKAS - fa' gedda' boud' dit.
HOWARD - How do you offer a team option? Not like last time that's for sure.
MILLER - can't see a raise in his future. An offer for sure though.
FOYE - offer the 80% scale if we don't get WALL or equal talent.
OBERTO - offer another two at 2.2 just in case.
CRITTENTON - no?
BOYKINS - let's see what the draft brings. If we get a WALL say good-bye. Otherwise, sign for one year minimum raise.
ROSS - hope he takes the player option.
SINGLETON - sign him up.
DAVIS - PAUL who?

I sure like JAMES SINGLETON. They should give this guy a three-year with a serious raise, right now.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Josh Howard is a really nice player. This seems like the kind of team that will be able to find somebody to fill in adequately.

Posted by: lesboulez | February 23, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

oh yes...i forgot about the deadline having passed. My bad.

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I knew it was more serious than a sprain when it happened.

The Curse of Lez Bullez strikes again!

Posted by: impeachemall | February 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

The curse would stop if culturally deficient waste of flesh like dcb!tich88 would stop referring to it as Les Boules which is not only grammatically incorrect but also the parallelism incorrect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boules

So how can the basketball Allahs smile on this town when its nitwits have been praying to the Allahs of the wrong game?

Posted by: Rocc00 | February 23, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Steve Francis can come and play for the rest of the season.

Posted by: ENJOYA | February 23, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

a nice goal for the team is finish with a better record than Charlotte, then send MJ a thank you note for being dense enough to reject the AB for Augustine trade

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 3:00 PM


and send a scathing letter to Grunfeld for being so desperate or blind that he proposed the trade.

Posted by: and_1 | February 23, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz don't exactly have ALL the leverage with Ilgauskas. Don't forget, if they don't buy him out they have to pay him $11 million. The point of the buyout is to make him go away, but also to not have to pay his whole salary. So don't be surprised if we end up paying 5 or 6 million. It still saves the Wiz a boatload of money.

Posted by: jimwest20 | February 23, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The curse will end once there are no more Unseld working on the team.

Posted by: Dave381 | February 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Howard is a very good player, and it appears that he will make a full recovery. I think EG should exercise the team option on him this summer, unless EG has inside info that Bosh/Wade/Lebron wants to play here.

Posted by: Dellis2 | February 23, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz don't exactly have ALL the leverage with Ilgauskas. Don't forget, if they don't buy him out they have to pay him $11 million. The point of the buyout is to make him go away, but also to not have to pay his whole salary. So don't be surprised if we end up paying 5 or 6 million. It still saves the Wiz a boatload of money.

Posted by: jimwest20 | February 23, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

not true...we owe him the remainder of his $11 mil contract. Since we only have 35% of the season left, we only owe him 35% of that or less than $4 million.


If he sits out or refuses to play, he gets nothing.

So yes, we are in the leverage spot. He would actually have to come to DC, take a physical and suit up and maybe even play if he didn't want the buyout offered.

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't count on the number one draft pick because wizards have the worst luck in the draft. The strength of EG that we all can agree on is trading however that is underminded by freakish injuries.

Another reason not to count on the draft is what phil and buckhantz said earlier this season. When you have a losing season you develop bad habits and you gain a losing mentality.

Posted by: jefferu | February 23, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Scouting Report for: Mike Harris
Combo Forward
6'6" 240lbs.


Harris has great athleticism and strength, and while he did most of his damage inside, he stepped out a knocked down a couple a deep jumpers. Harris was dominant when he got the ball with room to operate, his leaping ability makes him a very good finisher, and he’s almost impossible to stop when he has a head of steam. He showed great touch at the rim, and isn’t afraid of contact

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

For once...we are in a a good negotiating position. We don't give a durn about Z or where he goes or what he does, as long as it isn't setting foot on the court in a Wiz uniform.

Low ball him and then ignore him.

Posted by: Blurred
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Got you about not wanting him. But do you pay a guy 5 millions just to have him in practice and sit on the bench?

Or do you save a little (say 1 million less) and just get done with? (A million saving is a million saved.)

Also remember that Wizards will be in the FA market soon. A team that intentionally screw with player (i.e., not playing him and refuse to let him go) does not bode well when you try to lure players to come.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 23, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Z is screwing with us, not the other way around. He's in Cleveland rather than DC and has basically refused to report while his agent works out terms of a buyout.

If he wants to get paid, he needs to get his butt in town

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: sagaliba | February 23, 2010 3:39 PM

"Also remember that Wizards will be in the FA market soon. A team that intentionally screw with player (i.e., not playing him and refuse to let him go) does not bode well when you try to lure players to come."

Who's the bad guy here?? The Wiz or Z? Last time I checked it was Big Z who said he won't play here, and has not suited up as a Wizard. How exactly does that come across as the Wizards "intentionally screwing with the player"? Anyone watching this playout knows it is Z who is being difficult not the Wizards. He is paid to play- if he chooses not to play for us that's ON HIM not on the Wizards.

Posted by: wizfan4lyfe | February 23, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"Also remember that Wizards will be in the FA market soon. A team that intentionally screw with player (i.e., not playing him and refuse to let him go) does not bode well when you try to lure players to come."

While there's some general truth there, it doesn't really apply to this situation.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 23, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow, just when they were fun and interesting to watch again Howard blows out a knee. The losses were probably going to come eventually with this group, but now it is seriously undermanned. I was never really worried about a serious playoff run, but now I think our max number of ping pong balls are safe if that even helps this franchise.

That is going to be one helluva costly knee injury for Howard. Not only will he not get his option picked up, but his next contract will likely be heavily discounted. His best option might be a one year MLE type deal to prove he is ok.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 23, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Also remember that Wizards will be in the FA market soon. A team that intentionally screw with player (i.e., not playing him and refuse to let him go) does not bode well when you try to lure players to come."

While there's some general truth there, it doesn't really apply to this situation.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 23, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

That's for sure.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Scouting Report for: Mike Harris
Combo Forward
6'6" 240lbs.


Harris has great athleticism and strength, and while he did most of his damage inside, he stepped out a knocked down a couple a deep jumpers. Harris was dominant when he got the ball with room to operate, his leaping ability makes him a very good finisher, and he’s almost impossible to stop when he has a head of steam. He showed great touch at the rim, and isn’t afraid of contact

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Sounds great. Where does he currently play?

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Got you about not wanting him. But do you pay a guy 5 millions just to have him in practice and sit on the bench?

Or do you save a little (say 1 million less) and just get done with? (A million saving is a million saved.)
****

I don't give a Sh about how much he gets paid or doesn't get paid. Its not my money and it isn't preventing us from signing someone else right now.

I guess in theory, a million we don't spend this year is a million we can spend next year or the year after but I doubt that really pans out that way plus there will probably be new ownership.

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Only in Washington, can you find Wizards that have reverse, bad juju.

Posted by: dashriprock | February 23, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The NBA's got a loophole that you could drive a truck through.

Just about every season lately a contender trades a guy, and then picks him backup for the stretch run.

Big Z, the Wizards, and the Cav's are all playing the game that others have played before. The Wiz dumped the final two years of Jamison's deal and swept a stale team to the curb. Taking vengance on Z really isn't going to serve much of a purpose.
It's a business deal and it'll get done eventually.

Bad news for Howard, I would have kind of doubted his option would have been picked up.

But the way he was hustling his butt off I'd have quessed the Wiz might have tried to negotiate a new deal with him. In the new economy, I doubt he'd have gotten a big offer somewhere else.

That injury could have just cost the guy Millions.

How would you blame the Wiz's medical staff for an injury that happened in the 4th game since the guy got here?

Ray, I'd use Poppa John's. That whole New Orleans/Vodoo connection. Just can't see the that there are many Vodoo High Priests in Kentucky...
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | February 23, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Merlin eat your heart out, this team is aptly named. There is a Wizard here alright, unfortunately he has only one trick:

"I shall make all of your talent...disappear!"

Poof!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | February 23, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Big Z, the Wizards, and the Cav's are all playing the game that others have played before. The Wiz dumped the final two years of Jamison's deal and swept a stale team to the curb. Taking vengance on Z really isn't going to serve much of a purpose.

Sure it will, in this household anyway. It'll help satiate my burning hatred of all things CLEVELAND.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable! Now this guy was at Dallas for several years and never (not that I can recall) had a serious injury. He's here for two weeks and he blows his ACL! I've never seen anything like it before...is it a curse on this team or what?!?!?!?

Posted by: carterm1 | February 23, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Thornton better get in shape fast. He's playing 35 minutes at the 3 tomorrow night and again on Friday.

Posted by: MBUSA | February 23, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"Unbelievable! Now this guy was at Dallas for several years and never (not that I can recall) had a serious injury."

Howard has had injury problems his entire career. In his six seasons in Dallas, he's only played more than 70 games twice. He missed 30 games last season to a variety of injuries and had multiple surgeries in the offseason. His getting hurt really isn't that big a surprise.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 23, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz don't exactly have ALL the leverage with Ilgauskas. Don't forget, if they don't buy him out they have to pay him $11 million. The point of the buyout is to make him go away, but also to not have to pay his whole salary. So don't be surprised if we end up paying 5 or 6 million. It still saves the Wiz a boatload of money.

Posted by: jimwest20

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Remember the season is already more than half over. Paying him $5 to $6 mill. at this point would be paying him above the value of his contract.

Rough back of the envelop says he's due about $3.9 mill at this point if he stays on the Wizards roster. That likely means no bonuses for any off-season play. That means he also probably blows a shot at a championship this year (and for a vet his age this is pretty close to his last chance). The Wizards will probably pay him something, but the move is probably going to cost him money -- even with the $600K kicker that he rec'd as part of the deal. If he expects to get something close to full value of the remainder of his contract, odds are he's going to remain under contract to the Wizards. EG doesn't owe the Cavs or him any favors either at this point.

Posted by: JPRS | February 23, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Josh Howard has a number of physical problems the last couple of years (wrist, ankle) with Dallas that slowed him down a bit. He was realy just coming back to 100% with the Wizards when this latest misfortune occurred.

Posted by: khrabb | February 23, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Ernie should sign him to a max contract this summer


Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse


First he's going to have to lock up Oberto - 3yrs/$50mill.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

THe injury is unfortuante for Howard b/c he was basically auditioning for his next contract.

This is irrelevant to the Wiz. We traded for him b/c we are expecting to use his contract to clear cap space, so it doesn't really matter.

Besides, all this winning is only going to ruin our draft status...

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Big Z, the Wizards, and the Cav's are all playing the game that others have played before. The Wiz dumped the final two years of Jamison's deal and swept a stale team to the curb. Taking vengance on Z really isn't going to serve much of a purpose.

Sure it will, in this household anyway. It'll help satiate my burning hatred of all things CLEVELAND.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse


Can someone tell me how buying out Z's contract benefits the Wizards?

We save some cash this season, but we are already under the luxury tax, right?

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Haha Ray... yes call me crazy. I totally agree with you that it really stinks the record was this bad before the trade. We have so much ground to make up. But like you said, if the record wasn't so horrible then maybe the trades never happen.

We have a pretty nice schedule coming up with the Grizzlies, Nets, Knicks, Bucks... we need to win all of them.

Posted by: rachel216 | February 23, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE let AB lead us to the promise land (draft, FA's, + record) next year!

Posted by: Rocc00 | February 23, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

at least money grubbing Irene Pollin does not have to pay him, thats all that matters, to her.

Posted by: smc635 | February 23, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Remember the season is already more than half over. Paying him $5 to $6 mill. at this point would be paying him above the value of his contract.

Rough back of the envelop says he's due about $3.9 mill at this point if he stays on the Wizards roster.

Posted by: JPRS | February 23, 2010 5:20 PM

You're right, good point.

However, I think the Wiz will still look to save a few million this season by buying him out. They've already conceded to rebuilding and helping Cleveland win a championship, so saving a $2 or $3 million seems like something they would do. But as a fan, I'm hoping they A) get everything back including trade kicker, or B) pay him to sit at home watching his team win/lose a championship without him. But it's not my money.

Posted by: jimwest20 | February 23, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

currently we have the 8th worst record in the league, as long as the current team keeps hustling like they have been- we're only going to hurt our lotto chances.

personally i'd rather see them play well and win regardless of what it does to the lotto, where we usually have bad luck anyway.

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Howard is Injury Prone, he's brittle and he doesn't condition himself in the offseasons...

When you play hard you put your body at risk, and that's what he's been doing the last several games.

THERE IS NO CURSE... just athletes who fail to recognize that you can't be partying and expect to be 100% all the time, especially when you hit 30 years old.

The NBA is for young folks, with a few freaks like Nash, and Jamison.

Posted by: BulletsForEva | February 23, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The curse of Les Boulez! Again!! UFB!! This really sucks, of course, but I still like the way this team plays. What a difference from earlier this year.

NY, when you see Josh ask him if you can borrow his intensity for the rest of the year. It's what you lack, and I really think we're going to need you now. Good luck, Josh, hope your recovery works out well.

Posted by: clfrdj | February 23, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

guys like Jamison - how many games did he miss in the last 4 years?? especially at an age from 29-33, those years are more injury prone, people just don't rebound like they do in their early 20s.. If all NBA players, practiced Yoga in the offseason and in season, it would be sure to extend their careers by a couple to several years. Yoga is great for the joints, and increase in flexibility, which is KEY to minimizing injury.

Posted by: BulletsForEva | February 23, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Don't think Z has screwed us, he is "negotiating" (not demanding) a buyout. He said his heart is with Cleveland, but he did not say he did not want to play as a Wizards. So far, Wiz has just been dancing (negotiating) with him, and had not demanded him to put on the Wiz uniform either.

The question is, does the team want him as a Wizards? If the team wants him, then the ball is on his court. But if the team does not want him, then it will be viewed as unfair to not play him and just shackle him on the bench.

As for whether or not the team is paying him right now. If the team permits him to be not with the team, then they have to pay him; otherwise, they can deduct his salary. But it is really irrelevant, since that is part of the negotiation anyway.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 23, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"The curse would stop if culturally deficient waste of flesh like dcb!tich88 would stop referring to it as Les Boules which is not only grammatically incorrect but also the parallelism incorrect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boules

So how can the basketball Allahs smile on this town when its nitwits have been praying to the Allahs of the wrong game?

Posted by: Rocc00 | February 23, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse "

LMAO!

It's sad, but funny, when @sswhipes blame me for Les BouleS misery.

Don't hate me because I'm usually right.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 23, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

jimwest20,

Agreed. I'd figure that the $2 to $3 mill. range is probably what the Wizards are looking at.

As far as the near-term goes, the Wizards need a center. If Z wanted to play in DC, I have to think that the Wizards would find a way to make it work out.

It's pretty clear though that Z doesn't have any interest in playing in DC this year.

Does anyone know what the buyout implications are as far as cap-space? (e.g. if a team gets a discount on the contract does that lower the cap implications below what they would be otherwise?)

If it is that's probably one consideration in the negotiations as far as the Wizards thinking is concerned.

Posted by: JPRS | February 23, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Along with all the obvious big areas that need to be covered in the Wiz practice sessions this week, I really hope Miller and Thornton can work on playing off of each other. That tandem could really do some terrific things.

Thornton has always struggled to pass effectively. But, in watching these couple of games, I noticed that when teams colapse on Thornton going to the hoop MM was sliding into open spots for what would have been easy three pointers. If Thornton can add the "penetrate and kick out for three" to his game that would make him deadly.

If you can't trust your teammate that leads the league in three point percentage, who can you trust?

Posted by: SportzWiz | February 23, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Buy out or not, if he's traded to this team and he's holding a roster spot, and we are running out of bodies, he should be here, suited up on the bench.

Why is he allowed to sit at home and wait this out?

I say make him homesick!

Besides, he's got to be better than Oberto, who picks up two fouls just for walking on the court.

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Looks like I won't get my gold pooping, rainbow farting magic pony either. Damn.

Posted by: AtomicOvermind | February 23, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

@SportzWiz

I wish Foye would heed your advse as well.

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

According to Fox in Houston,
Mike Harris will be flying into Washington today to sign a 10 day contract to join the Wizards.

@glawrence007
Mike Harris is a D Leaguer that has been tearing up the D League for the Rio Grande Valley Vipers. Whether that will be the case in the NBA....who knows.

He played with Houston and was on the roster when the Rockets ran off 22 straight Ws...

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

1. Re Josh Howard's injury: Dammit, Jim!

2. In light of that, allow me to amend my worthless prediction for the rest of the season. Instead of 34-48, make it 30-52. (But I welcome the team to do better.)

3. Are the Wiz really playing March 11, 12, AND 13, with the middle game away at Detroit?

Posted by: 7snider7 | February 23, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

personally i'd rather see them play well and win regardless of what it does to the lotto, where we usually have bad luck anyway.

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

AMEN!!!!

Lets just play ball and play hard.

Posted by: Blurred | February 23, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I feel bad for Josh Howard, just when he has a new situation, and new fans to please he gets this injury.

F that curse, you aren't funny anymore you wanna be jokesters talking about iron balls. Your hero the source of all those trying hard to be funny but actually sarcastic and mean words about the Wizards just got suspended for being sarcastic and mean on the air.

Posted by: rickgonz | February 23, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

1. Re Josh Howard's injury: Dammit, Jim!


Posted by: 7snider7 | February 23, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse


Really?

Why are people acting like this J.Howard injury is relevant to anything anywhere to anyone except to Josh Howard who is auditioning for teams next year?

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

According to Fox in Houston,
Mike Harris will be flying into Washington today to sign a 10 day contract to join the Wizards.

@glawrence007
Mike Harris is a D Leaguer that has been tearing up the D League for the Rio Grande Valley Vipers. Whether that will be the case in the NBA....who knows.

He played with Houston and was on the roster when the Rockets ran off 22 straight Ws...

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 23, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse


That's what I'm talking about.

At this point, the Wiz should just go out and get a whole rack of D-league ballers and let them run D-league-style ball the rest of the year.

I'd be entertained to see how a bunch of run-n-gun contract-hungry ballers would fare against some of these lazy overpaid NBA-types...especially the ones on losing teams that have nothing more to play for.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

More on Mike Harris: he's 26 years old and most recently for the Rio Grande Valley Vipers. In Houston, he averaged 3 points and 3.2 boards in 9 minutes per game (total of 17 games). He also played for BC Kyiv of the Ukrainian Super League and starred for the Dongguan New Century Leopards of the Chinese Basketball Association. He's been cut before by Milwaukee and Houston during preseason and signed once before by the Rockets to a ten day contract.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 23, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

"So let's [d]rop the paranoia and enjoy the players we still have..."

Posted by: mricklen | February 23, 2010 1:15 PM

Thank you mricklen! It's difficult sometimes to maintain a positive fan outlook amongst so many Chicken Little fans. I believe strongly that we create our own reality and based on the comments here, it is not surprising that a culture of losing exists in this town. As for me, I am going to enjoy the energized play of the Neo-Wiz kids and delight in a season still brimming with possibilities. Now that's a reason I'm a Bullets/Wizards fan!

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | February 23, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Maybe now the Wiz can resign Lonnie Baxter.

Plus with his own gun-related issues he'd fit right in.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 23, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Why are people acting like this J.Howard injury is relevant to anything anywhere to anyone except to Josh Howard who is auditioning for teams next year?

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 7:40 PM

Maybe because he seemed to be playing very hard and was effective on both ends of the floor?

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, how surprising...not.

They should change the name back to the Bullets, obvious these Wizards have no magic!

Posted by: DaveLopan | February 23, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse
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Oh, the Wizards have magic all right. Ever see them make a lead disappear?

Posted by: jcbcmb68 | February 23, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

7snyder7:

Yes, that's a three-game, three-night back-to-back next month. One of the games is the makeup of the Feb. 6 game with Atlanta that was postponed because of snow.

Posted by: jcbcmb68 | February 23, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

This is the pitts! Josh Howard was playing really good, in agreement, some type of curse! Hope Gil tells him to find his own surgeon and all, or can give him some tips on a more speedy recovery. Jamison and Brendan had theirs somewhere in NYC. Wish we could have gotten Larry Hughes back, I read he's trying for a buyout also.

Posted by: washwiz | February 23, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Would: "Josh Howard is done as a Wizard" be more appropriate?

I wish him well, but did anyone seriously think that he would be re-signed here?

He said all the right things about getting into the playoffs this season, but what else would you expect from a guy on his last contract year?

I'm surprised the Wiz medical staff didn't recommend amputation at the knee.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 23, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't trade with Dallas made with both Wizards & Mavericks choosing to forego physicals on all players involved. If injury to J.Howard was possibly a 'pre-existing' condition (a potential to happen), could not a physical have possibly detected this.

I suppose this is what you get when deal without fully knowing what you are getting.

Would be best to cut ties with him altogether next season. Losing another team's castoff 4 games in, to a season-ending injury is not a good sign.

Posted by: SkinzFanzz | February 23, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Injuries are not indigenous to the Wiz...hello Portland, Knicks, Bucks etc...
It is the way of the sports world.
You have large athletic and over muscled young men, who continue to work out to get bigger and more vulnerable.
Plus the NBA schedule and physical play, on spindly legs create the inevitable injuries. They are like thoroughbreds, let's be happy they don't shoot bballers like horses, don't they.
So let's frop the paranoia and enjoy the players we still have.
Go NY...

Posted by: mricklen | February 23, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I really enjoyed watching Howard and he brought some intensity and balls to a team lacking both. Josh clearly is a very good player and I think an upgrade from Caron Butler both in his game and his fiery attidude.

Josh, get well and hope to see you back here next year.

Posted by: jshavatt | February 23, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

LMAO!
It's sad, but funny, when @sswhipes blame me for Les BouleS misery.
Don't hate me because I'm usually right.
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 23, 2010 6:04 PM |

This is as ghey as you actually thinking you've pulled any strings.
Go die of aids faggle.
Stupid white b!tch.

Posted by: Rocc00 | February 23, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Ted Leonsis on the team's recent trades:

"I think what the Pollin family has done was exactly the right thing to do."

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

First he's going to have to lock up Oberto - 3yrs/$50mill.

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

LOL. Surely you jest. Two years 4.5 million sounds about right.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

So HARRIS comes in from the d-league and we completely forget HOWARD?

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 23, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Maybe because he seemed to be playing very hard and was effective on both ends of the floor?

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse


Yeah, too bad.

I guess this ruins the team's chemistry? Err, no.

Playoff potential? Err, no.

Cap situation? Err, no.

Player rotation? Err, no.

Hmmm...trying to figure out how this unfortunate injury creates a predicament for the Wiz...

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

"This is as ghey as you actually thinking you've pulled any strings.
Go die of aids faggle.
Stupid white b!tch.

Posted by: Rocc00 | February 23, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse "

Your anger is funny.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 23, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Too bad about Howard, but he will be back, no doubt. Probably with another team, but he will be back. As for the Wizards, it is what it is. It is a huge opportunity for somebody. Should be interesting.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 23, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Too bad about Howard, but he will be back, no doubt. Probably with another team, but he will be back. As for the Wizards, it is what it is. It is a huge opportunity for somebody. Should be interesting.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 23, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, too bad.

I guess this ruins the team's chemistry? Err, no.

Playoff potential? Err, no.

Cap situation? Err, no.

Player rotation? Err, no.

Hmmm...trying to figure out how this unfortunate injury creates a predicament for the Wiz...

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 10:38 PM

The exact same thing could be said about Mike Miller.

Posted by: divi3 | February 23, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling we are all going to get more familiar with the top D league players before this season is over.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 23, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"I have a feeling we are all going to get more familiar with the top D league players before this season is over.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 23, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse "

Fits with a D-league organization.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 24, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Funny how people that were hating on Blatche are now using the same tired junk on Young.

Give Nick 30 min a game and watch what he can do. He just needs the opportunity to play consistent minutes for a few games to develop a rhythm.

Nick should start at the 2 from here on out. Flip is giving Blatche and McGee the opportunity to learn and grow, Nick deserves the same.

We need to find out if he's a piece we can build with. We can't do that with Boykins and Ross taking his minutes.

Posted by: DMoney28 | February 24, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

If NICK YOUNG isn't getting the minutes, there's a reason, and it ain't because the coach is hatin' on him. Know what I'm sayin'?

If he was the best option at #2, he'd be out there. With the exception of the DENVER game, NY's played himself right off the court.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 24, 2010 5:35 AM | Report abuse

I'm not for BOY or ROSS over NY. I'm for NY getting his head in sync with his azz, and playing some serious b-ball. Evidently FLIP ain't seeing it from him. I gotta' believe NICK's the best option of the three, but I give FLIP not YOUNG the benefit of the doubt. Sorry.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 24, 2010 6:18 AM | Report abuse

have a feeling we are all going to get more familiar with the top D league players before this season is over.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 23, 2010 11:12 PM

Some have already viewed current players as D-Leaugers.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 24, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

"So let's [d]rop the paranoia and enjoy the players we still have..."

Posted by: mricklen | February 23, 2010 1:15 PM

Thank you mricklen! It's difficult sometimes to maintain a positive fan outlook amongst so many Chicken Little fans. I believe strongly that we create our own reality and based on the comments here, it is not surprising that a culture of losing exists in this town. As for me, I am going to enjoy the energized play of the Neo-Wiz kids and delight in a season still brimming with possibilities. Now that's a reason I'm a Bullets/Wizards fan!

Posted by: bazookajoe1

Yeah guys, come on! Lets channel some positive energy on the blogs because thats what wins championships!

Please, come on! I get a little irritated at the extremely hateful or negative comments but lets not be ridiculous.

Posted by: millineumman | February 24, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if Ted Leonsis misspoke, but he said in his interview that he already owned 44% of the Wizards.

That is contrary to what has been reported. It has been reported that he owns 44% of WS&E and the Pollins 56%.

Within WS&E, the Caps and the Mystics are owned outright by Ted and the Wizs are owned outright by the Pollins has been the prevailing reporting.

For Ted to say that he already owns 44% of the Wizards is either a misspeak or if it isn't then that means that the Pollins are way off in their asking price.

The Forbes market value of the Washington Wizards and the VZ together is around $350 mil.

If Ted did not misspeak, then he offered the Pollins more than what their share of the Team is worth.

Subconsciously, I believe he confused the 44% stake in WS&E with the Wizards, but still I believe he has already offered the Pollins fair market value.

Time will tell.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 24, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Mike Harris is probably a good choice now. I do think in addition they should also try a point guard who is good at assists with a good assist/turnover ratio. The two existing point guards probably will not last the rest of the year healthy. Good luck Wizards! It is fun to watch again!

Posted by: JoeC2 | February 24, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

In addition to Mike Harris, Will Conroy is the point guard with a good Assist/Turnover ratio that should be given a chance. Will played with Mike Harris at Rio Grand Valley in the D-League.

Posted by: JoeC2 | February 24, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

The Bullets have been exciting to watch the last 4 games. I am really impressed with the energy put out by the entire team. EG was right on when he said that the previous team was “stale”. I really enjoy watch AB and JM on the floor together, they really guard the paint well. Singleton and Ross have been positive additions so far, let us hope it lasts. I am sorry to see JH out for the season but I don’t think he was in the team’s future plans.

Back to JM, why was this guy on the bench so long? He brings a defensive presence that was much needed by this team. I have always looked forward to watching him play and hope he continues to get more minutes. AB seems to have got it all together. I usually takes a high school players 4 years to mature to be a solid NBA player and he is right on schedule. Even though it is good to see the Bullets win, I will be happy with them being competitive and get a high lottery pick in the next draft. Flip has got to find a way to get Miller more open looks. I think the league has figured out Boykin’s. Let him dribble the clock down to the last few seconds and double team him. I can’t wait for Gilbert to return. He is the only real point guard on the team.

Posted by: jahjank | February 24, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Time to bring up Mike Harris from the D-League

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ifQp5V-epo

Posted by: blackman1 | February 24, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be something if Mike Harris came in and instantly earned quality minutes while Nick Young continues to get major pine time (with a big ol' smile on his face)?

Posted by: and_1 | February 24, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

As reported, Wizards is expecting Z to leave "$1 million or more" on the table (which is termed "a lot" by the report).
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/02/23/ilgauskas/?ls=iref:nbahpt2

Let's see, Z is making 11.5 million for the season, and hasn't played a games since the trade. According to my calculation, that amounts to over 4 million. So even if he leaves over a million on the table, he can still collect $3 millions from Wizards for not playing with the team.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 24, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"In addition to Mike Harris, Will Conroy is the point guard with a good Assist /Turnover ratio that should be given a chance. Will played with Mike Harris at Rio Grand Valley in the D-League. Posted by: JoeC2"

Personally, I'd prefer we trade for the entire roster of Harris' former team, the Dongguan New Century Leopards of the Chinese Basketball Association, just so we can practice saying 'Dongguan'.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 24, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure there must be a reason why the club can't fine ILGAUSKAS, and refuse to pay his per game pro-rated salary. What is it? He has refused to play in a WIZARDS uni.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 24, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

the team doesnt actually want Z to report, the buyout was agreed upon as part of the AJ trade. If we asserted our rights on Z now, EG would be going back on his "secret" deal with the Cavs

Posted by: divi3 | February 24, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I can’t wait for Gilbert to return. He is the only real point guard on the team.


Posted by: jahjank | February 24, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I would say he's the closest thing to an effective point we currently have. BOY is just too small, and FOYE is still learning the position, but technically ARENAS is a two guard in my book.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 24, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

glawrence007,

Where did you hear that Z "has refused to play in a WIZARDS uni?"

He is negotiating a buyout, and I am sure if the team asked him to put on the uni, he would have (to just comply with the rule, and not jeopardize his pay).

Posted by: sagaliba | February 24, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

First he's going to have to lock up Oberto - 3yrs/$50mill.

Posted by: p1funk
================================

That is hilarious!

Hopefully Leonsis is not a disciple of Abe Pollin (RIP).

Posted by: JohnWWW | February 24, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

LarryInClintonMD,

WS&E Does not own the Caps or the Mystics.
Lincoln Holdings(Ted's Compnay) owns the Caps, the Mystics and 44% of WS&E.

The $350 mil reported by Forbes is not based on Verizon Center as a property, rather the money the Wizards Generate from playing in Verizon Center.

How clueless are you. Verizon Center is probably worth 250-300 by itself. Hell the sq block Verizon sits on is worth $200 mil..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 24, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Leonsis will keep EG if he buys the team, so how much difference does it really make one way or the other?

Posted by: divi3 | February 24, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

where is former celt,twolf,mavrick, gereald green? i though he had game, i know he has mega-bunnies.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 24, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't make a difference. Just making another point about the stupid sh** that comes out of Larry's computer.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 24, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

How many 20/10s does AB have to drop before consensus is he's LEGIT?

Posted by: divi3 | February 24, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

You don't prove you have "matured" in a couple of weeks. I won't be comfortable in saying Blatche is legit until he shows consistency thru another season. The good thing about it is that the power forward position is his. Period. Not his until someone comes back. Not his until he messes up. His!

The other thing is, he is the elderstatesman. Sort of like the older kid who has to mature quickly and raise his younger siblings because they tragically lost their parents

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 24, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"How many 20/10s does AB have to drop before consensus is he's LEGIT?"

Zach Randolph dropped 20/10s for 5 or 6 years on crap teams, but no one thought of him as "LEGIT" until he proved he could produce in a winning situation without all of the knuckleheaded behavior and wasn't content just to get his. And even now, it's hardly a consensus.

I don't see why Blatche should get any more consideration than Z-Bo did.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 24, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse


1. Re Josh Howard's injury: Dammit, Jim!


Posted by: 7snider7 | February 23, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse


Really?

Why are people acting like this J.Howard injury is relevant to anything anywhere to anyone except to Josh Howard who is auditioning for teams next year?

Posted by: p1funk | February 23, 2010 7:40 PM |

I appreciated JHoward's efforts and I prefer to see the Wiz win. I don't like to see tanking for a hoped-for lottery pick, which I believe can help engender a losing culture.

7snyder7:

Yes, that's a three-game, three-night back-to-back next month. One of the games is the makeup of the Feb. 6 game with Atlanta that was postponed because of snow.

Posted by: jcbcmb68 | February 23, 2010 8:33 PM

Thanks! That's going to tough along about the 2nd game. As for the third one in three days, I'll be astounded if the Wiz win it.

Posted by: 7snider7 | February 24, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be something if Mike Harris came in and instantly earned quality minutes while Nick Young continues to get major pine time (with a big ol' smile on his face)?

Posted by: and_1 | February 24, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

if you look at thre film (youtube vids) of harris, most of his damge is done around the rim. He has a high motor and seems to excel at tracking down rebounds on the offensive board, as well as finishing around the rim. if he can play at an NBA level as well as he's been playing in the D it's a no brainer to have him battle it out with NY for mins. But let's not get ahead of ourselves here either. Harris brings some good things to the game, kinda like a singleton/thronton hybrid. But I don't know if that's what you ask of NY, so i don't know if that's how you judge NY. 2 tough games in which he only played 8 combined mins, vs the effort you saw against DEN and the flashes we've been seeing is enogh for me to favor him over a d leaguer. but then again I was wrong about CB and AJ too.LMAO

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 24, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

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