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Latest Wizards trade rumblings

Ernie Grunfeld was talking to a group of reporters about why he made the trade with Dallas on Saturday, when an off-key singing voice came howling from the other end of the hallway outside the Wizards' practice court at Verizon Center.

"I got a feeling - whoo! Hoo! That tonight's gonna be a good night," Antawn Jamison sang, smiling.

At the time it seemed that Jamison's choice of the Black Eyed Peas song, "I got a feeling" was hint of something prescient, like maybe a trade. The Wizards intensified their talks with the Cleveland Cavaliers on Tuesday, with the trade deadline closing in. Yahoo! Sports reported that the Cavaliers are considering a deal that would send Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Jamario Moon and a No. 1 pick to Washington for Jamison and the seldom-used Mike James.

I spoke to several people about that proposal Tuesday night, and while no one denied that those players had been discussed, they all admitted that it was among several deals that the teams are talking about. One person familiar with the discussion said that reported deal had "no chance" of going down. But it seems apparent that nothing will go down until the Phoenix Suns decide what they are going to do with Amare Stoudemire.

Based on my conversations, I am under the impression that the Cavaliers would prefer to acquire Stoudemire, a 26-year-old all-star stud who is also being pursued by the Miami Heat. The Suns and Cavaliers discussed a possible deal over the weekend in Dallas, but Cleveland would like to cover its tail with Phoenix stalling. The Cavaliers have two other solid offers on the table for Troy Murphy and Corey Maggette, but Jamison appears to be the next option after Stoudemire.

The Wizards have also spoken to Miami and Boston about Jamison, who stands as the last member of the so-called "Big Three" remaining with Caron Butler in Dallas and Gilbert Arenas suspended for the rest of the season. Jamison would like to play for a championship, but to some around the league, there is still some doubt about Grunfeld's willingness to help Cleveland win. And, according to a league source, if Jamison is dealt, his preference would be Boston over Cleveland.

There was some speculation, given life on D.C. radio, that the Wizards would try to package Jamison and Mike Miller to acquire Shaquille O'Neal. That has been shot down by everyone I spoke to yesterday because Cleveland has no desire or plans to move O'Neal, who has been everything they had hoped he would be and more. Also, the Wizards don't want to move Miller and would like to re-sign him after this season.

By Michael Lee  |  February 17, 2010; 12:08 AM ET
 
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POSTED: Feb. 17 -- 1:15 a.m. ET


Chris Broussard: Sources with direct knowledge of negotiations between the Cavaliers and Wizards deny a report that the Cavs have made an offer (Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Jamario Moon, first-round pick) for Antawn Jamison.

The clubs have had discussions, but no offer is on the table, according to the sources.

Cleveland is still waiting for Phoenix to give a verdict on its offer of Ilgauskas, J.J. Hickson and a first-round pick for Amare Stoudemire. But the Cavs' interest in Jamison is real. Cleveland is very excited about Hickson's development and if the Cavs could obtain Jamison without giving up Hickson, they might consider taking that deal over the Stoudemire deal.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-2010

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 17, 2010 1:48 AM | Report abuse

I got an idea for a crazy trade (doesn't everyone) that is actually based on what GMs and owners are saying and stumbling blocks with current trade discusions.

So, try to follow along, otherwise this will sound nuts (or should I say "more nuts").

1)The Heat are making a hard push for Amare, so that they can have Bird rights for signing Wade and him longterm.

2)One of the issues blocking a Heat/Suns deal is that the Suns owner wants to get rid of either Barbosa's contract or J. Rich's deal in any trade involving Amare.

3)The Heat are willing to trade away Beasley and first round picks to get Amare.

4)Although the Suns are looking for a salary dump, they do not want to look bad to their fans or leave Nash without any experienced players around him.

5)The Wiz want to trade away AJ, but seem to be hesitant to help the Cavs (especially if they feel like they're being fleeced).

Now for the admitted crazy portion.

Wiz, Heat, and Suns make a 3-team trade:

Suns get: AJ, Miller, and whatever Miami first round pick(s) are being offered.

Heat get: Amare

Wiz get: Beasley, Barbosa, and Q-Rich.

This way the Suns save face (and some money) while picking up a replacement for Amare and good fits for their system. The Heat get Amare and no extra garbage. And the Wiz have a local boy to market and build around w/a slight savings in 2010 and a big savings in 2011.

Too bad we all know this will NEVER happen.

Posted by: SportzWiz | February 17, 2010 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Wow...that Cleveland deal is a no-brainer for us. Cap space and a 1st round pick although obviously that is going to be a lousy first rounder. Better than nothing for a team in complete rebuild mode though.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 17, 2010 2:59 AM | Report abuse

@sportzwiz

Why would the Wiz want to add Barbosa? We already have 3 shoot 1st point guards and Beasley though talented appears to have a few issues of his own.

On September 3, 2008, at the NBA's Rookie Transition Program, Beasley was involved in an incident along with fellow rookies Mario Chalmers and Darrell Arthur. Police responded to the hotel room of Chalmers and Arthur following a fire alarm at 2 a.m. and claimed that the room smelled strongly of burning marijuana but none was found and no charges were filed. Chalmers and Arthur were excused from the camp[31] because of the incident and were later fined $20,000 each for missing the rookie camp, but were not fined or suspended for any drug-related violations. Both later denied any involvement with marijuana.[32] Originally, ESPN reported that Beasley was also present in the room,[33] but was not asked to leave camp. The story was later updated and any mention of Beasley was removed from the article.[34] On September 18, 2008 Beasley was fined $50,000 by the league for his involvement in the incident after Pat Riley forced him to confess to league officials that he had slipped out the door when the police arrived.[35] [36][37]

On August 24, 2009 Beasley reportedly checked into a Houston rehab center, just days after he posted pictures of himself to Twitter with what some have speculated to be marijuana in the background.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 17, 2010 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Wow. The first intelligent thing that I've heard from the front office - that they want to re-sign Mike Miller!

Posted by: charley42 | February 17, 2010 5:26 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if Roger Mason Jr. wants to come back to DC or not but he could be traded for Drew Gooden.
Mason makes $15 Million this year and Gooden $18.2 Million.
That would shave $3.2 Million off the Wizards salary cap for luxury tax purposes although I don't know about the long term implications of such a trade.

Posted by: jeremybozz | February 17, 2010 6:14 AM | Report abuse

I like Moon. We're starting to sign or consider players who can actually play some defense. That would be a nice identity to build around, versus jump shooters. Yes, keep M Miller!

I agree with a post the other day that Caron's "Tuff Juice" label was misplaced. And he's telling the Dallas media he brings toughness. Neither here nor there at this point, but he played lousy D, was an average rebounder. I never saw him play the enforcer role or commit hard fouls on anyone. He was tough when compared to the rest of the Wiz, who were pretty soft.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 17, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Jeremybozz, are you sure Roger Mason Jr is making $15 million this year? Sounds like a lot. I'm guessing he makes around $4 million to $5 million.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 17, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

The Verizon center value could go up or morelikly down because the veriznon center is getting older and the market today is in the tank. All you amatuer CPA'S take a deep breath and a shrp pencil and--as they say--DO THE MATH.

Posted by: vergens2 | February 17, 2010 3:08 AM | Report abuse

@Vergens2,

The value of the VZ will not have a changing impact on the sale price as it is being appraised right now, as we speak.

What will have an effect on the appraisal price right now is the liabilities of the team.

All of sudden, lets say the salary liability of the team went from a 2-yr obligation of 60 million to 30 and now you donot have a luxury tax that was projected in the millions.

That gets factored as an asset to the value of the appraised price for the team right now.

What you are talking about has less effect on the appraised price because it hasn't happened yet. Appraiser's do not give you much value on projections unless there is a pattern of it already established.

The VZ does not have a record of loosing money thus the value of the Team will not go down because we dumped player salaries.

The actuality is the appraised value will go up because the Team is no longer obligated for those salaries right now, whilst the value of the VZ hasn't been impacted atall as of yet.

Check your math.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 17, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Do whatever it takes to unload the fat, 2 and 1/2 year contract of Antawn. Yes, he is a great guy and player, but at his age, he needs to be a key piece of some other club's dream. A trade for expiring contracts is perfect.

EG should not be worried about a rivalry between Cleveland and the Wiz preventing a trade. That ancient rivalry is history (as is EG in this town).

Posted by: EdDC | February 17, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Chris Broussard: Sources with direct knowledge of negotiations between the Cavaliers and Wizards deny a report that the Cavs have made an offer (Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Jamario Moon, first-round pick) for Antawn Jamison.

The clubs have had discussions, but no offer is on the table, according to the sources.

A reiteration of what's been said here, an offer, nothing more. But I did the math, and it works. If AS indeed goes to MIAMI, then JAMISON appears headed to CLEVELAND and MIKE JAMES' atrocious contract goes with him. And that's what makes it work, plus we get back their #1 pick to begin the rebuild. Here's hoping.

And I'm not hatin' on AJ. Although I've complained many times here about his defense, it's O.K. It's just usually a wash, such as the time this season he dropped 31, and had 10 rebounds but was -2 for the game in the plus/minus column.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 17, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Why do folks resent what Jamison is making over the next two years? Isn't he earning less than the $16M on his previous contract? And isn't he shooting more points and getting more rebounds now than he was then?
Go back three years, Arenas's salary was $11M and Jamison's was $16M. Fast forward back to today: Arenas's is $16M and Jamison is $11M.

Posted by: rickgonz | February 17, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

MASON makes 3.80 million this season and has an expiring.

And its great to see some comment finally about retaining MIKE MILLER. Here's hoping.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 17, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Roger Mason's salary is $3.7M.

Question for Michael Lee: What is the team doing with 16 players when the max is 15? (Arenas is still on the roster)

IF there are no more trades, does that mean one will be waived, and who is the most likely?

Posted by: rickgonz | February 17, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Wizards just wont be the same... Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison made the team more exciting. The situation with Arenas was blown way out of porportion and he was'nt treated fairly. I will only attend games at Verizon Center if one of the 3 are on the court.

Posted by: keshjahkamya | February 17, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Rickgonz,

I could be wrong but after 10 games of suspension by the League, I think we get to use both roster spots.

That dosen't sound fair even as I look at it, but I do recollect something to that effect.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 17, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

I personally would not help the enemy by trading AJ to Cleveland or Boston. For that matter, I wouldn't trade him to no one in the Eastern Conference. You have contending teams in the West that could use AJ. It's ashame how this team turned out with such high hopes. Honestly, I can care less what they do. I hope new ownership can turn things around and make better decisions in the long run.

Posted by: htnba2003 | February 17, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

rickster:

Roger Mason's salary is $3.7M.

3.78 million, but who's counting.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 17, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Wizards just wont be the same... Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison made the team more exciting. The situation with Arenas was blown way out of porportion and he was'nt treated fairly. I will only attend games at Verizon Center if one of the 3 are on the court.

Posted by: keshjahkamya | February 17, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Have no fear, the court jester will be here. You haven't seen the last of ARENAS in a WIZARDS uniform unless GRUNFELD truely is a wizard.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 17, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

The progress of a franchise, especially one that has to completely rebuild, should not be hindered by any circumstances other than can the deal get done. Who cares if Cleveland or Boston benefits from our misfortunes. Compounding our issues by not taking the best deal on the table because of rivalries is completely the wrong way to go at this stage of the Wizards history. Besides, in order for it to be a rivalry, don't we have to win a playoff series against said teams?

Posted by: JSchon | February 17, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Wow...that Cleveland deal is a no-brainer for us. Cap space and a 1st round pick although obviously that is going to be a lousy first rounder. Better than nothing for a team in complete rebuild mode though.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 17, 2010 2:59 AM | Report abuse

I second that banana.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 17, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

who cares if the wizards help the cavs win a championship? I hate the cavs and lebron just as much as anybody. What I do care about is that the Wizards are doing everything possible to expedite the necessary rebuild. If that means making a trade with the Cavs, then do it. Let's face it, the wizards are not going to be championship contenders for a long time even if they get lucky and make all the right moves. Plus, the Cavs may be bottom feeders if Lebron takes his act somewhere else. So, I say do a deal with the Cavs if you can free up cap space and get a 1st rounder.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 17, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I agree with a post the other day that Caron's "Tuff Juice" label was misplaced. And he's telling the Dallas media he brings toughness. Neither here nor there at this point, but he played lousy D, was an average rebounder. I never saw him play the enforcer role or commit hard fouls on anyone. He was tough when compared to the rest of the Wiz, who were pretty soft.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 17, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

JWeb,

That was me who posted that yesterday. I'm glad someone else saw the same thing. I wish the best for Caron in Dallas but over the last couple years I got annoyed when Caron was referred to as "tough juice" and then got really annoyed when he had the nerve to say that he was going to bring toughness and nastiness to the Mavs. I read that and said "What? When did he ever do that for us?" Your analysis is spot on :)

Posted by: DCSportsFan28 | February 17, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

No disrespect to JJ Hickson, but shouldn't the Wizards main concerns be:
A. Salary dumping
B. Draft Picks

Perhaps a competent scouting department under a new regime can find and draft its own "JJ Hickson".

He's not the second coming of Karl Malone..

The whole argument over who's getting the better part of a deal is moot.

One team needs win a Championship now and hope to keep it's franchise player, the other team needs to find a franchise player so they can hope to one day compete for a Championship.

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 17, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Bozomoeman,

I agree with what your saying, the Wiz main priority should be dumping salary and draft picks. However, would you rather have Jamario Moon and the (most likely) 28th-32nd pick in the first round or JJ Hickson? Honestly, I would rather have JJ Hickson for the rebuild because he's a young player who I think has talent/potential. I think Moon is average at best and I have no faith in our ability to draft. Unfortunately, that's my biggest thing, I don't like EG's ability to draft. It seems that we always want to take on projects with our draft picks and they never pan out. I think passing up on a guy like Blair in the 2nd round sums it up. I'd rather see the Wiz get Big Z and JJ Hickson than the package listed above. I just have no confidence in our ability to draft and I don't see EG going anywhere next year. Just IMHO.

Posted by: DCSportsFan28 | February 17, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Why do folks resent what Jamison is making over the next two years? Isn't he earning less than the $16M on his previous contract? And isn't he shooting more points and getting more rebounds now than he was then?
Go back three years, Arenas's salary was $11M and Jamison's was $16M. Fast forward back to today: Arenas's is $16M and Jamison is $11M.

Posted by: rickgonz | February 17, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I don't resent Jamison making $28.4 million over the next two years. People seem more than willing to shell out $100-plus per ticket to a lower bowl seat to see a faulty product (it's not even a momentary thrill), so who cares if the player gets much of that money? The whole thing is a big rip-off of gullible fans, and players should share with owners in the rip-off. (I would rather see salaries and ticket prices lowered, but that's not going to happen.)

The problem is the salary cap. There's only so much to go around. Do you want to build with youth or try to win 30 games with the old vets? If you go with youth, the trend is better than if you try to hang on with the old vets.

Posted by: EdDC | February 17, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

DC Sports--You can even take it further. The entire "old Wiz" was built on self-delusion. Gilbert manufactured multiple personas for himself. Jamison thinks he's a shooting guard. Caron believes he's a tough guy. Instead of sacrificing for the team, the key players defined their own roles and personas, and then went out to play the roles they wanted. Grunfled deluded himself into thinking the team could recapture an early season run of success in 2008. That's stil what worries me. I realize we're in total "rebuilding mode" but I wish Flip or Grunfeld would at least try to describe what kind of team or identity they want to build here. What is a Flip Saunders team anyway?

Posted by: jweber1 | February 17, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, one thing that frustrates me about the Wizards this year was EG's refusal to trade Caron earlier in the year. I remember that the Wiz were rumored to be interested in Amare S. from Phoenix. If the reports are true, the Suns wanted Caron to be the main chip in the deal along with some young guys. EG refused to give up Caron which I thought was a horrible decision at the time. Here we are months later and we trade Caron as a salary dump. I'm not saying Amare would have saved our season but wouldn't you have liked to finally had a legitimate inside threat? If we could have traded Caron and signed Amare to a contract extension he would have been a good piece to build around. EG has made a couple of great trades for us in his time here but for the most part he's had much more failures than successes. I think of 2 trades that really helped us as a franchise but other than that his drafting, other trades, FA pickups or non-pick ups have really screwed this franchise over. At best EG made us an above average team in this league at one point but never a title contender. He brought some excitement back to the Wiz for a short period of time but long term he set us back years.

Posted by: DCSportsFan28 | February 17, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Jweb,

Completely agree with your last page, you and I are on the same page on many things. I think Flip is a good coach but is he a good coach for this team? Time will tell but he has a certain style offense he likes to run. I think he should have a lot of input with EG on players we should pick up that can fit into his scheme. If not they should cut Flip loose and get a coach that can coach young talent and develop guys. Can Flip do that? I don't know but we'll see. I loved the big 3 for what they gave us and bringing excitement back but the problem was they never made us title contenders. They made us a fun to watch, high scoring, 3/4/5 seed every year with an early playoff exit type team. It was fun while it lasted but we never were truly title contenders. I think it's time to start over (obviously) but I'm not sold on EG being the man for that job. Who could do a better job that's available? I have no clue but I think there is someone who would be a better fit for us than Mr. Grunfeld. I think his time has come in DC.

Posted by: DCSportsFan28 | February 17, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

"Why do folks resent what Jamison is making over the next two years? Isn't he earning less than the $16M on his previous contract?"

because he does little to imporve the win-loss performance of the team (albeit, not entirely of is own doing). And over the next two years, he'll be getting older.

No one resents him for the money. Some people criticize him for not playing defense or playing inside like a traditional power forward. I for one, think he has earned his contract, and had many things gone right for this team (Gil being available to play, both physically and psychologically, Mike James had been serviceable as a point guard, Blatche played with consistency, the rest of the team played some solid defense), then there would be no talk of trading Jamison.

He is being traded because he is at once, the biggest asset left on this team (in terms of production) and the easiest liability to fix (in terms of committed salary).

I hold no grudge against Jamison; he has been a true professional who deserves a chance to play out the remainder of his career on a winning team.

Posted by: mabkhar | February 17, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Some of the posters here criticize Ernie Grunfeld for not making the Wizards a championship contender.

May I remind you that in the last 30, read it 30 years, this franchise has contended for little more than the draft lottery. You can pick apart every trade, FA signing etc. and try and make your case, but you can't ignore two facts. Before this team fell apart, it went to the playoffs for four consecutive seasons.

Eighties - barely competitive
Nineties - abysmal
The MJ era - so-so
Grunfeld 1 (04-08) - Competitive, but NOT contenders
Grunfeld 2 (08-10) - Epic Fail Self-Destruct

I don't put all of the blame or the credit for the past six seasons on Grunfeld. I put that on the entire organzation top-down. Take this as an opportunity to clean house, not to look for scapegoats.

Posted by: mabkhar | February 17, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

It all works out for the best.
Obviously this team was never going to meet the unrealistic expectations from early season.
It looks like we will soon have competent and progressive ownership.
I am excited that Cb and Bh and Ds are gone, with Mj and possibly Aj to follow.
Even though Ga's status is uncertain, he will generate real value in any transaction.
So we can truly start over with several young and somewhat talented possibilities...Ab Ny Jmc Af Jc Dm plus a quality 1st rounder and whatever we can acquire in additional trades this week. Plus we will finally have some cap room.
These are very positive developments from a disastrous several months.
If none of the mishagos of the past months had occured we will still be teasing ourselves that the Wiz were on the threshold of something enjoyable and exciting.
Now we very possibly could be ready for some fun and better basketball for years to come.

Posted by: mricklen | February 17, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

AJ deserves what he's paid....but it's not wise for us to keep paying it. Hopefully EG is holding out for Hickson, but ready to make the move without him if that's what it takes.

And newsflash EG: Cavs are the best team in the nba and will win with or without AJ. Watching them do it will be more palatable (for me anyway) if AJ gets a ring in the process.

Posted by: divi3 | February 17, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

ummm why would a player like Mike Miller who could play a significant role on any contender want to re-sign with the Wizards??? that has to be the stupidest thing I've heard since.... oh thats right, since the Butler trade...

Posted by: unkonchus | February 17, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

The CAvs are thinking that AJ is the better move for them this year, but Amare is the better play for the future. Jamison will play great with Lebron and Shaq while Amare could end up clogging up the paint when Shaq's on the floor.

Hopefully the Cavs go for cementing this year's ring rather than future

Posted by: divi3 | February 17, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

The ineptitude of this franchise runs long and deep and goes all the way to the top. Had Abe Pollin matched his success on the court with what he did for the DC community he would have 3 World Championships right now.

Being blown away by Gar Heard is pretty laughable. This team unfortunately needs an overhaul top to bottom. Now after the passing of Abe Pollin, this will happen. Abe did a lot for this area but his last 30 years in basketball terms has been forgettable.

Posted by: JSchon | February 17, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

The way some of you talk on here make you sound like you weren't fans before Gil came to town.

Unfortunately things didn't work out with this group. But the past 5+ years bought more excitement to DC than the 20+ years that preceded it.

I'm thankful for the run (albeit a modest one that never got past the 2ns round) and look forward to a fresh start.

GO WIZ

Posted by: DMoney28 | February 17, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Wiz, Heat, and Suns make a 3-team trade:

Suns get: AJ, Miller, and whatever Miami first round pick(s) are being offered.

Heat get: Amare

Wiz get: Beasley, Barbosa, and Q-Rich.

This way the Suns save face (and some money) while picking up a replacement for Amare and good fits for their system. The Heat get Amare and no extra garbage. And the Wiz have a local boy to market and build around w/a slight savings in 2010 and a big savings in 2011.

Too bad we all know this will NEVER happen.

Posted by: SportzWiz

I see where you're going with this Wiz, and I've certainly seen crazier deals. The problem with it is that I don't think the Wizards get enough out of this deal. There is time for him to become more, but at the moment, Beasley strikes me as a younger, more immature version of AJ, except without the character and leadership qualities. I'm not sure if he's a guy we would want to build around. Plus, if a team is willing to give up on a guy they drafted #2 just a couple of years ago, and have to give up additional draft picks to do it, that should tell you something.

Posted by: ts35 | February 17, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Wiz, Heat, and Suns make a 3-team trade:

Suns get: AJ, Miller, and whatever Miami first round pick(s) are being offered.

Heat get: Amare

Wiz get: Beasley, Barbosa, and Q-Rich.

This way the Suns save face (and some money) while picking up a replacement for Amare and good fits for their system. The Heat get Amare and no extra garbage. And the Wiz have a local boy to market and build around w/a slight savings in 2010 and a big savings in 2011.

Too bad we all know this will NEVER happen.

Posted by: SportzWiz

I see where you're going with this Wiz, and I've certainly seen crazier deals. The problem with it is that I don't think the Wizards get enough out of this deal. There is time for him to become more, but at the moment, Beasley strikes me as a younger, more immature version of AJ, except without the character and leadership qualities. I'm not sure if he's a guy we would want to build around. Plus, if a team is willing to give up on a guy they drafted #2 just a couple of years ago, and have to give up additional draft picks to do it, that should tell you something.

Posted by: ts35 | February 17, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Grunfeld, I'm in the camp that he is a solid, savvy, experienced, generally principled GM who, overall, did a lot of good things for this franchise--but his time is up. Sure, he made his fair share of bad moves/deals (Etan's contract, Gilbert's, letting Roger Mason get away), but he does deserve credit for turning the franchise around by getting the once Big Three. More to the point he's a deal maker, not a guy who builds through draft picks and young talent. He's also an old-school type who is extremely wary of the press and doesn't tell anyone what he's up to (which is understandable to a point).

If you read Leonsis's 10 keys to building a successful (hockey) franchise as reported by "Truth About It," his approach is clearly to rebuild through draft picks and young prospects and to communicate to the fan base what the plan is. That's not Grunfeld. Frankly, I'm concerned about Flip than Grunfeld because he lost this team early in the year.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 17, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

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