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McGee injures wrist, Young reflects on McGuire

Wizards (19-33) at Raptors (30-24)

Wizards starters: Randy Foye, Josh Howard, Mike Miller, Andray Blatche, JaVale McGee

Raptors: Jarrett Jack, DeMar DeRozan, Hedo Turkoglu, Andrea Bargnani, Rasho Nesterovic

Line: Raptors by 7

Zydrunas Ilgauskas returned to Cleveland on Friday night in anticipation of working out a buyout agreement before March 1. A person with knowledge of the negotiations said an agreement won't be reached until some time next week. Ilgauskas received a trade kicker worth $600,000 in the Antawn Jamison deal. But he has made it clear that his "heart is in Cleveland" and he has no desire to play in Washington.

Lacking another center, the last thing the Wizards need is an injury to their only 7-footer. But as JaVale McGee stepped on the court to warmup before the game, his right wrist was heavily wrapped in blue tape. He then shot mostly left-handed jump hooks while working with assistant Gene Banks. McGee strained tendon in his wrist while going up for a rebound against Denver on Friday, but it isn't considered serious. Asked how he felt before the game, McGee said, "I'm fine."

Ernie Grunfeld may have referred to trade of Dominic McGuire to Sacramento as "something small," but it was a deal to Nick Young and Andray Blatche. Young and Blatche were both close with the 6-foot-9 forward and received phone calls from their traded comrade immediately after the deal went down.

"No one really expected that. He called me, like, 'I'm gone, man. I'm gone." I was a little sad because it's somebody I came in with, had a bond with. We lived together my rookie year, too, so we went through a lot," said Young, who rented one of Gilbert Arenas's homes with McGuire when they both entered the league in 2007.

As rookies, McGuire and Young filed the once-popular and hilarious Domi.Nick video blog, which really captured the loose, carefree nature of the locker room in the 2007-08 season.

"We had the Dom & Nick effect. We had rookie things with Gil. We've been here all three years together. Unfortunately, he got traded," Young said. "He was like, 'Dang, I'm really gone.' He was really surprised."

Young said that McGuire was happy about returning to his home state of California and having an opportunity to get more minutes with the Kings. "But he was a little down. He's somebody that everybody had a bond with here. Me and Dray. It's kind of hard to see him leave," Young said. "It's hard, but it's something you got to get used to. I'm learning more and more that it's a business. Anything happens in the NBA."

Blatche said that he hated to see his "best friend" go, but he has learned a lot about the league in the past few weeks. "It's a business. And we all knew that going into the trade deadline that anything was possible for anyone of us," Blatche said. "He was really excited about it. it's an opportunity to play, so I told, "Go on and do your thing, man."

But for old times' sake, here is a classic Domi.Nick video:


By Michael Lee  |  February 20, 2010; 6:55 PM ET
 
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Comments

Players getting traded or cut is simply the harsh reality of professional team sports.

Even Babe Ruth was sold to the New York Yankees after being a winning World Series pitcher for the Boston Red Sox in 1918.

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | February 20, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

i guess no one wants to play defense tonight

Posted by: rachel216 | February 20, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Refs seem to be determined to give the Raptors calls tonight. Flip has got to keep 'em honest.

Posted by: and_1 | February 20, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Amazing that we're only down by fve, 69-64, all things considered.

Posted by: and_1 | February 20, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Wizards 2.0 is the scrappy version!!

Posted by: and_1 | February 20, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh my decent team!

Posted by: amorris525 | February 20, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Remember Paul Davis, the 6-11, 270 pound center who made the Wizards roster earlier this year, but was cut to make roster space for Earl Boykins due to injuries? Well, that Paul Davis is available; he's playing for the Maine Red Claws:
http://www.mlntherawfeed.com/basketball-transactions/2010/2/1/maine-red-claws-acquire-paul-davis-from-player-pool.html

So if Z gets bought out, or if Mike James gets bought out, wouldn't it be nice to have Paul Davis back?

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 20, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Blatche is flat out giving them hell in the third quarter!!

Posted by: 2020doc | February 20, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Wiz up by three after three. I hope Saunders doesn't overdo the Boykins thing in the fourth because Foye is having a nice game!

Posted by: 2020doc | February 20, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Just playin' some ball baby, Jus' playin' some ball.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 20, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Crunch time! Get Foye in the game!

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

With 4:40 to go, the former Bullets have five players in double figures. Wow.

Posted by: twomangame | February 20, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Flip is being too conservative. Foye and McGee need to go back in the game now!!

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Why is Boykins still in the game????

Get him out, Foye was playing well and not dribbling out the shot clock.

Posted by: DMoney28 | February 20, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Jarrett Jack is giving Little Earl the blues and Flip refuses to take him out!

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Jack took advantage of Boykins in this 4th.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 20, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Boykins grinds the offense to a halt, shame on Flip for keeping him in.

Posted by: DMoney28 | February 20, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Flip Saunders is a clown.

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Is there any way we can trade Steve Buckhantz as well?

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

A coaching loss. Flip cannot afford to be this stubborn. It is disheartening.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 20, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, after the buyouts are done, maybe the Wiz will add another pg too.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 20, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

we lead by 9 with 2 minutes to go, there should be no reason why we lose. who should we blame? how do you let toronto end the game on a 16-2 run? wizards beat themselves tonight. we need to learn to hold leads, especially a 9 point lead with 2 minutes ago. Miller was horrible down the stretch, his turnover was the turning point.

Posted by: rachel216 | February 20, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

There are several people on here that think that Ernie made the deadline moves to have a competitive team.
The only competitive thing after all of this is Irene's bank account.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, after the buyouts are done, maybe the Wiz will add another pg too.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 20, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Nope, that would require an investment from Irene, very unlikely.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Nobody wants to hear your bullsh!t, Utilityman1. Are you denying that this team has competed since the trades occured?

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

The Boys played well. Mike Miller's 4 count em.....4 turnovers in the 4 period did us in tonight!

Posted by: rf2litenva | February 20, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

@Rachel216,

Ask yourself why little Earl controlled the ball for more minutes down the stretch than anyone.

Why?

Is is Earl's fault or is it coaching?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 20, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Haywood is pulling a Brenda tonight.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

It is unfortunate that both teams are paid to play basketball and the Wiz likely won't win every game they play.

The Wiz played a good, hard fought game.

Posted by: cannontl | February 20, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The blame goes to mike miller in this game. when leading by 9 points with 6 minutes to go in the game, he turn the ball over twice when all you give the ball to blatche when no one can stop him. I also blame saunders for not putting mcgee in there when toronto's pg jack was penestrating easily. Other than that, I really like this group. Thouugh, I would not pick up howard's contract, he just not worth that much. Love thorton.

Posted by: demonj21 | February 20, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Wiz up by three after three. I hope Saunders doesn't overdo the Boykins thing in the fourth because Foye is having a nice game!

Posted by: 2020doc | February 20, 2010 9:06 PM

You saw it coming with your 20/20 foresight, huh. Why didn't Flip?

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Nobody wants to hear your bullsh!t, Utilityman1. Are you denying that this team has competed since the trades occured?

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I never said a thing about the current team not competing hard because they have been. All I said was that EG's main goal before the deadline wasn't to field a competitive team but to shed as much salary as possible.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree with demonj21. It all started when Miller turned the ball over not once, but twice when we had a chance to extend our lead. Yes Boykins dribbles too much sometimes but many times he's come through for us down the stretch.

Posted by: rachel216 | February 20, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

McGee got a ton of potential and by the time he is ready to dominate, which is like ly to take another couple of years and which will coincide with the end of his rookie contract, what's the guarantee that he will agree to sign with this moribound organization?
The Wiz may spend all this time nurturing him for him to walk at the end of his contract.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

And it was a double whammy, not only did little Earl cause the offense to go stagnant, his smallness was taken advantage by Jack as well.

We cannot play that well and have bad coaching on top of it.

Mike Miller should only have been told to spot up on the three and that's it. KISS is something Flip Saunders needs to get a grip on.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 20, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Why even make the change Miller for Thornton when up 9 in the 4th? The tandem of Thornton and Howard were effective last night in the crunch and having a similar impact tonight. The less coaching Flip does, the better.

Posted by: alvin4 | February 20, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I haven't given up on him although is leadership abilities have been non-existent as many of the pre-trade players just blatantly refused to follow his directions but he will be this team's coach for the next 3 years. I don't see Irene paying him $14 millions over the next 3 years to be a TNT analyst.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry, I've made my decision, I do not think that Flip Saunders is on top of his game.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 20, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Is there any way we can trade Steve Buckhantz as well?

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Just for you Utilman; DAGGER!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 20, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Mike Miller will never play well for us again.

Posted by: cannontl | February 20, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry, I've made my decision, I do not think that Flip Saunders is on top of his game.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 20, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

It would only be your decision if you have the ability to persuade Irene to forfeit all that money (highly unlikely). He is owed $14 millions after this year.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Three consecutive games AB showing not only offensive moves, but also some passing ability and defensive ability.

He always had it...just overshadowed by the stats dude.

JaTravel should only be shooting if he's catching and dunking.

That turnaround left handed shot in the paint that got blocked was sad.

All in all, a good effort....but I think Les BouleS could win if Sam Cassell got on the court.

Having exorcised the team of the "big 3" is like a breath of fresh air.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 20, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

NBA TV reported the Kings are in the process of buying out Larry Hughes contract.....any way we could get him back?

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 20, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

It's the Earl Boykins conundrum again. By that I mean he had his one impactful game out of 12 last game then Flip gets suckered into playing him the entire 4th the next game and he is not even close to being as effective. Yet, Flip keeps him in. And, I've NEVER seen the combination of Foye and Boykins work the entire season. They were on the court together in the 4th when things started to really come undone. IMO, if Flip puts Foye and McGee back in the game and takes Boykins out with about 6 mins left this game could have been ours. That's 4/5 games this year where I think his coaching down the stretch has been really suspect.

Also, MM had a terrible game, but I felt bad for him. I mean he walked on the court and would get called for breathing wrong. Some of the calls too were extremely suspect against him as if one of the refs has a vendetta against him. Don't think it happens listen to some of Donaghey's interviews. Some very strange calls against him.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 20, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

NBA TV reported the Kings are in the process of buying out Larry Hughes contract.....any way we could get him back?

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 20, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if he PAYS us to come home.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 20, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad with the trade with the Clips, that EG could not pry away S.Blake.

Blake is no all star point guard, but he's at least a real point guard who can pass.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 20, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

@Utilityman,

Nobody with 2 brain cells thinks that EG made these moves to be competitive now. Obviously, the goal was cap space, draft picks, and the future. If they turn out to be competitive in the meantime, it's only a bonus. Perhaps, a bonus we don't want bc we could lose draft position, but the last 3 games have been some of the most enjoyable to watch the last couple of seasons.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 20, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Nobody with 2 brain cells thinks that EG made these moves to be competitive now. Obviously, the goal was cap space, draft picks, and the future. If they turn out to be competitive in the meantime, it's only a bonus. Perhaps, a bonus we don't want bc we could lose draft position, but the last 3 games have been some of the most enjoyable to watch the last couple of seasons.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 20, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't go as far as saying that he got draft picks out of the deals. He got the Cleveland 1st pick, which is likely to be 30th and thus likely to net a non-impact player and a protected 2nd rounder through 41st from Sacramento, which is likely to go back to them as they will continue to have one of the worst records in the league.
EG also pointed out that the team may not be spending any of the freed up money this summer, which is clearly an indication that keeping a very low payroll is the goal going forward, at least within the next couple of years.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

UTILMAN:

And there you have it from the ultimate source, rphilli721 - you have no 2 brain cells.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 20, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

EG also pointed out that the team may not be spending any of the freed up money this summer, which is clearly an indication that keeping a very low payroll is the goal going forward, at least within the next couple of years.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:42 PM


May not means MAY NOT. His words aren't a clear indication of anything with ownership due to change hands this year.

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

McGee is one hell of an athlete but he has zero basketball smarts.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 20, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

And there you have it from the ultimate source, rphilli721 - you have no 2 brain cells.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 20, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Why, because I refuse to be a blind follower? This organization's has been fooling you for years and it will only change once Irene finally surrenders the team to Ted.
Needless to say that he has offered more money than any other owner has offered for any NBA team but she is still not satisfied and wants to syphon even more money out of his pockets.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

May not means MAY NOT. His words aren't a clear indication of anything with ownership due to change hands this year.

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Ownership should have changed already if it wasn't for Irene's obsession with money. Ted already offered alot of money but the process will linger alot further because she wants every penny possible.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

McGee needs to go to big man camp this summer.

Is it just me or does he look tired/lazy at times when he's on the floor.

Posted by: DMoney28 | February 20, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

UTILMAN:

Irony, irony, uman.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 20, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

We couldn't stop J Jack.
Last night Nick Y. did a good job on the 3 best pt guards in the league and Nick sits the 4th while J Jack goes off and wins the game. go figger.....

Posted by: VBFan | February 20, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Correction.

We couldn't stop J Jack.
Last night Nick Y. did a good job on one of the 3 best pt guards in the league and Nick sits the 4th while J Jack goes off and wins the game. go figger.....

Posted by: VBFan | February 20, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: VBFan | February 20, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Ownership should have changed already if it wasn't for Irene's obsession with money. Ted already offered alot of money but the process will linger alot further because she wants every penny possible.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 20, 2010 10:52 PM

Based on whose timeline? Yours?
The process is moving forward at its own pace. Did you really think either party would be stupid enough to not let it go to an independent arbitrator agreed on by both parties?

Posted by: gimmedat | February 20, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards management wants to fill the seats etc., generate revenue and keep the value of the franchise high. The letter from Robert Pollin on the team website doesn't sound like he is willing to stand pat and not try to fill obvious weaknesses. Such as no backup center, and the #2 pg being 5-5 and 135 pounds.

We'll know the truth soon enough though.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | February 20, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

What is this infatuation with Boykins about? Nice role player but doe's he have glue on his hands? This guy simply dribbles the shot clock down time after time forcing bad shots. He is not a damn point but a good scorer off the ball who gets some offense going with decent shooting within the proper framework, not as the focul guy directing the team particularly at crunch time. Talk about stagnation and no movement of the ball when it is gorilla glued onto his palms and fingertips!
I do not like Foye period and he simply is not a point guard but still a better choice than Earl. This game was lost by the Coach, as many before this. What a waste of heart and hustle on the Players part!

Is Flip delusional in thinking that staying with Oberto in place of Javale makes good sense? For crying out loud, let this guy play, make some mistakes and get better! Flip Saunders is the ultimate "Veteran" guy who simply refuses to coach these younger guy's up. The way he pulls Young and McGee after a mistake is infuriating! He is ruining their confidence and making them so tight that they are apprehensive about just playing the damn game. I cannot stand Flip and think he is among many overrated NBA Coaches constantly recirculated in this league who have one track, inflexible mindsets.
What is the point here after these changes? Is it not to develop the great potential of McGee in particular and Nick Young as well?.

I like Howard, Thornton and Singleton very much and their are some very good pieces here as well that need a true "Coach" in every sense of the word. We need an Avery Johnson, Mark Jackson type here desperately!

It's monly 3 games but this team plays hard and their is talent here. I am no fan of Grunfeld but the pickup of Thornton in particular is simply fantastic. He is not intiminated by Mello or anyone else for that matter and plays bigger than 6'7 with agression we have lacked for years.

I was a Flip hater before and I remain one today. Enough!

Posted by: jshavatt | February 20, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

When the Raptors made their big run at the end of the game Flip Saunders did absolutely no coaching, did nothing to help his team win. He didn't call timeout. He didn't sub anyone except Miller at the very end. When the team needed him most, Flip Saunders was invincible. He is so bad. This team as is, can and will win games. But they'll have to do it on their own. Saunders stunk with the previous group and he stinks now.

Posted by: dovelevine | February 21, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Another thing worth mentioning:
Mike Miller can play, flat out play, but Flip, will you please set more plays for him to shoot and demand that Mike change his mindset of being a facilitator all the time and rediscover the great shooter that he is?

Mike is a good passer at times but forces passes particularly when he is on the move. That is not his strength or his game! I respect his unselfishness greatly but scream at him to get open and take the shot! With very weak point guards he must take on every opportunity he gets to score assuming of course that he has a good shot. Mike is simply trying too hard to make the pass often when it is not there. At the same time he is on the run letting the pass go, he is out of position to get the ball back in scoring position.

I would like Mike to stay with us but he could serve this team better by working hard to get open and shooting the damn ball-50% plus from the 3 tells us all we need to know.

Flip. do your job!
Mike Miller appears to me to be the type of person and player who will listen. If he doe's not, then set him down like you do the younger Players. I have a feeling that will not be necessary but we need him to score. I don't care if he was playing along side of LeBron or Kobe, or Thornton and Howard, he needs to stop this nonsense and score.

Posted by: jshavatt | February 21, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

"I wouldn't go as far as saying that he got draft picks out of the deals. He got the Cleveland 1st pick, which is likely to be 30th and thus likely to net a non-impact player and a protected 2nd rounder through 41st from Sacramento, which is likely to go back to them as they will continue to have one of the worst records in the league.
EG also pointed out that the team may not be spending any of the freed up money this summer, which is clearly an indication that keeping a very low payroll is the goal going forward, at least within the next couple of years."


Nice. Keep talking out of both sides of your mouth. They don't have draft picks yet they have draft picks. Interesting, no? Cap space and late picks is all we were going to get in the real world. Add in a Thornton and even possibly Howard going forward and EG did as well as possible under the circumstances and did his former underachieving players right by sending them to contenders. A+ on his trade deadline deals by any objective measure.

As far as his remarks on the FA spending, I think he is only being realistic as far as signing a top tier free agent this summer to a rebuilding team and any goals the franchise has you would have no clue about. Pure conjecture based on next to nothing which you seem to be good at.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 21, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

@jsh,

I agree with you completely see my comments above about Boykins. He has his random good games and then Flip immediately relies on him too much immediately following those games. He did it earlier in the season and it drove me nuts. Foye is not a great pure PG, but he is better than Boykins in all aspects of the game.

Agree completely on MM too. He is a much better all around player than I thought, but I've never seen a guy that can shoot like him refuse to take shots and/or not have any plays run to get him at least 5/6 3 pointers a game. He is no longer with the supposed "Big 3" so he needs to step up. The shots are there. Blatche is sure as hell taking advantage of the situation. Who knew the dude is by far our best post player? I love the low left block plays we run now with him bc he's got more moves than I thought and he can pass. Sure, he's shown those moves in the past, but not with the consistency and conviction he's making those same moves with now.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 21, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Nice. Keep talking out of both sides of your mouth. They don't have draft picks yet they have draft picks. Interesting, no? Cap space and late picks is all we were going to get in the real world. Add in a Thornton and even possibly Howard going forward and EG did as well as possible under the circumstances and did his former underachieving players right by sending them to contenders. A+ on his trade deadline deals by any objective measure.

As far as his remarks on the FA spending, I think he is only being realistic as far as signing a top tier free agent this summer to a rebuilding team and any goals the franchise has you would have no clue about. Pure conjecture based on next to nothing which you seem to be good at.


Posted by: rphilli721 | February 21, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

You are the dumbest person on this blog. They didn't get draft picks, they got 1 draft pick from Cleveland. The draft pick from Sacramento will return to them since it's protected through the 41st. And let me make this easy for you. Sacramento currently has the 4th worst record in the league and tthus their pick is unlikely to be higher than 35.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 21, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Again, they don't have picks but they do. Keep digging. And how long is it "protected" for? I think we get it eventually if not this year, but don't know for sure. But, we still got a pick bare minimum, and cap space, and Al Thornton, Howard, Singleton, and Ross.
That is about all that we were possibly going to get in the real world, which means EG did his job for stage one of rebuilding. Any other questions?

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 21, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Again, they don't have picks but they do. Keep digging. And how long is it "protected" for? I think we get it eventually if not this year, but don't know for sure. But, we still got a pick bare minimum, and cap space, and Al Thornton, Howard, Singleton, and Ross.
That is about all that we were possibly going to get in the real world, which means EG did his job for stage one of rebuilding. Any other questions?

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 21, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

I never chastised EG for these particular deals so I have no idea what you are referring to. I was just responding to your comment about multiple picks. And no, we don't get it, it's to be potentially used this year.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 21, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure the second rounder is protected this year, but open next year. I believe we still have a possible pick from Memphis as well. Part of the javaris deal?

Anyone remember the details on that one?

Regarding the semantics argument over Pick vs Picks:
We may have only secured 1 guaranteed pick (a borderline 2nd rounder from Cleveland) in this draft, however, multiple picks were acquired.

Mostly I look at this as trade bait. But at the same time with enough late picks you stand a better chance of unearthing a legitimate corner stone player. It's not bad to have at anyrate.

Seems worth more to me than Haywood who seemed unlikely to return. Butler seemed uninterested for long stretches this season, and Jamison isn't the long term building block he once was.

I'm happy the games have been exciting to watch since this all went down. Personally I still want a lottery pick to play with though.

One last thought.

EG had the unfortunate position of making these trades during what amounted to a feeding frenzy. Other GMs are smart too, they smelled blood and desperation, this makes it hard to drive value or build leverage. I see the posturing over Gil as an attempt to reestablish leverage in future trade / contract negotiations. IMO.

All from my iPhone. :)

Posted by: gconrads | February 21, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

If Young, McGhee, or Blatche say they dont want to play for the Wizards, would we pay them millions to go away? If Ilgauskas wants to leave, give him a dollar and say bye bye. No malice, and no money. I know why he doesn't want to be here, I just dont see why we want to pay him millions to leave. So we save some money, we will still have to pay someone else to fill his roster spot, and pay him. We have the leverage, let him go and give him a buck. We wouldn't even pay people who we have a relationship with such as Blatche, Young, and McGhee.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | February 21, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

We do not have a pick from Memphis. We gave it up to get Javaris.

Posted by: cannontl | February 21, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Another coaching loss. With all the stats in basketball, there should be a "coaches loss" and "coaches win" call. It would be a subjective call, like errors in basketball. It would only be based on fourth quarter decision-making.

Saunders has cost the Wiz at least 4 and probably 6 games this year. He goes to Earl in the late fourth quarter because Boykins won several games when he first came to the Wiz. But like a lot of journeymen who have been on 10 teams, the reason Boykins keeps getting traded is because he is inconsistent.

EB is NOT the WIZ go to guy in the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter. He gets killed on defense and does not score much on offense. Foye should have been in the game and the Wiz need another point guard.

They should also go get Davis but they reallly don't want to win. They want to look like they want to win, but be positioned in the lottery, which is really stupid since they always loose the lottery.

Posted by: smallwhiteforward | February 21, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

McGuire should be thanking his lucky stars he was traded, regardless of leaving his buddies. Not because the Wizards future (or lack there of) but because he is virtually assured to now be the next Ben Wallace or Roger Mason Jr. on his next team.

Posted by: boblas | February 22, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

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