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Poll: What should the Wizards do next?

The Wizards got the NBA trade deadline party started when they gave the Mavericks a two-time all-star, a solid defensive center and a guy who couldn't feel his face. They are expected to remain active in trade talks between now and Thursday's trade deadline, but I wanted to hear what you guys would like to see the Wizards do next. Antawn Jamison has been rumored to be available for the right deal, and I already told you about the organization's desire to avoid paying the luxury tax.

The team had hoped to get salary cap relief, some draft picks or a young prospect in any deals, but they were unable to get much more than some financial flexibility from Dallas. I asked Ernie Grunfeld on Saturday why he wasn't able to pry a prospect or draft pick out of the Mavericks. "Those things didn't present themselves to us, at this time," Grunfeld said, which let me know that the Wizards weren't exactly dealing from a position of power with the rest of league aware of a possible fire sale.

I was informed that the Heat was interested in Jamison, and that there was a "Western Conference team" that has also entered the picture recently. I'm not sure which team that could be, but Yahoo! Sports is reporting that it is Houston. The Rockets still want to get rid of Tracy McGrady's expiring contract and are also in discussion with the New York Knicks. There will be a lot to ruminate over the next few days.


By Michael Lee  |  February 15, 2010; 11:35 AM ET
 
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Jamison has been upbeat about his situation in Washington. Anyone else would have complained til they got there way. Best thing to do is let Jamison go have a chance to compete. The Wizards are going to below avg the next 2 seasons. Get some draft picks and a couple prospects for him (ie JJ Hickson or Beasley (beast). Time to rebuild!

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | February 15, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Jamison would be a perfect fit in San Antonio. I hope that team Mike is talking about is them.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 15, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Jamison's deserves a chance to play for a winner like Cleveland or Miami who will contend for a title. Trade him and try to get back a good prospect like JJ Hickson from Cleveland or Mario Chalmers from Miami or at least a No. 1 draft pick. We received basically zero for Hawyood, Butler, and Stevenson as both Howard and Gooden will be gone after the season when there contracts aren't renewed or expired.

Grunfeld needs to be fired after new ownership takes over since he constructed this dysfunctional mess of a franchise. Also, they need to void or buyout Arenas contract since he should never be back in a Wizards uniform. The Wiz now are even in worse shape than New Jersey who at least has some good young talent in Lopez, Douglas-Roberts, and Devon Harris.

Posted by: wizfan89 | February 15, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

get rid of twan. that guy rather be a shooting guard hanging around the perimeter than be a power forward. I never met a power forward that would prefer to shoot 3 pointers and tear drop shots than bang inside. Go figure. He was a leader, but unfortunately we bet the house on gimpy no D gilbert instead of twan and butler. Sorry bro.

Posted by: jdgreger@yahoo.com | February 15, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Even if the Cavs get Stoudmire, they might attempt do a secondary trade to obtain Jamison or Murphy to fill the need for a 4 who could stretch the floor with his shooting.

Given that the Cavs have concerns about well Stoudemire and Shaquille O’Neal would fit together, the team would consider moving Shaq if it acquired Amare. For instance, the Cavs could swap O’Neal and their first-round pick to Washington for Jamison and Mike Miller. They could send the same package to Indiana in a deal for Murphy and Mike Dunleavy.

One surprising note: According to a source, Amare's agent has yet to be contacted by the Cavs. Since Stoudemire has an early termination clause in his contract, it’s possible that Cleveland is willing to acquire Stoudemire without assurances that he will stay with the Cavs beyond this season. Still, one should expect the Cavs to gather some sort of intel on Stoudemire’s wishes.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13214/is-cleveland-big-enough-for-amare-and-shaq

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

!- Finish tidying up financially by moving contracts, whatever can be done.

2- Make cap room for new contracts.

3- Get the ownership situation resolved.

4- Remedy the lame-duck GM situation before the draft.

5- Lure TOM THIBODAUX as HC under the guise of a new beginning. Let him infect the WIZARDS by instilling defense first on the new club.

6- Sign one great free agent.

7- Draft one great rookie.

8- Start negotiating with GILBERT ARENAS.

9- Play out the upcoming season.

10- Pray fannies return to the seats.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 15, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

get rid of twan. that guy rather be a shooting guard hanging around the perimeter than be a power forward. I never met a power forward that would prefer to shoot 3 pointers and tear drop shots than bang inside. Go figure. He was a leader, but unfortunately we bet the house on gimpy no D gilbert instead of twan and butler. Sorry bro.

Posted by: jdgreger@yahoo.com | February 15, 2010 12:12 PM

You never saw Dirk Nowitzki play?

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Move Jamison no matter what so we can go after some new blood this summer.

Posted by: DMoney28 | February 15, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Whocares about where these guys end up at because the NBA (NO Blacks Allowed) have done a snow job on the teams and its fans. Things were blownnnnn out of proposition with the "unloaded" guns incident and Stern is trying to be a "bully" by being stern and crippled this origanization . Sharpton rolled from under a rock to add fuel to the fire and should have kept his trap shut "remember Brawley and her lies" but it comes down ro keeping the black millionaries in their places and stiff penalties for minor stuff. Good riddences to all that is traded and Arenas is a better scorer than Kobe or James when healthy and take that to the BANK!!!!!

Posted by: gman54 | February 15, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Another Season down the drain.
where do we place the blame?
Squarly on the shoulders of the GM Ernie Grundfeld.
Lets examing the facts.
1. He refused to resign Roger Mason jr. who went on to the Spurs and is playing well.
2; He and Abe resigned Gil to this rediculous $110 Million contract eventhough he knew that there was some question about the soundness of his knee.
3. Ernie FIRED Edie Jordan and turned the team over to Eddie Tapscott thereby giving up on the season in the first month.
This is the same Eddie Jordan who had led the Wiz into the Playoffs and was named coach of the East Squad in the All Star Game all of a sudden he can't coach?.
4. Then Ernie squandered the Second Round Draft pick. He could have gotten DeJuan Blair in the second round--He went to the Spurs. what do we have to show for that Pick NOTHING.Second Rounders do not get a garunteed Contract so they would only be on the hook for one year.
5. Now they have traded away one of their best players one whom you could build a team around.
They should have moved Jamison First. He is 33 and is owed $28 Million over the next two years.
Now we have Drew Gooden and Josh Howard -guys with expiring contracts plus two other journeymen who will not play.
Net result another season down the drain.
Why are we paying Ernie Grundfeld?
The new Owners need to send him down the road along with the coach
Flip Saunders

Posted by: Carprin | February 15, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse


I still say Jamison gets traded to Cleveland and the Wiz get Hickson and Ilgauskas.

Posted by: and_1 | February 15, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13214/is-cleveland-big-enough-for-amare-and-shaq

Given that the Cavs have concerns about well Stoudemire and Shaquille O’Neal would fit together, the team would consider moving Shaq if it acquired Amare. For instance, the Cavs could swap O’Neal and their first-round pick to Washington for Jamison and Mike Miller. They could send the same package to Indiana in a deal for Murphy and Mike Dunleavy.
=======================================

Bringing Shaq to DC? Do they want another gun incident? Shaq dunking on gil's wife and than moving him to DC?

How in god's name can you come up with this rumor?

Posted by: Goelez | February 15, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

1. Trade Jamison for expiring contract (McGrady??) OR
2. Trade Jamison and Miller for Shaq's expiring 21 Million
3. Tank the rest of the season--won't be hard to do, cause we suck so much.
4. Try to trade Arenas. 80 Million left in 4 years. If noone wants it (likely), offer to pick up 25% of the remainder. Knicks would take 4 years for 60 Million.

If all of those could be done, we'd have a team with only Foye, Blatche, NY, Javale, and Quinton Ross on the Roster, and only 10 Million + 4.5 Million of Gilbert's contract against next season's cap.

*** gilbert would cost ~ 4.5M for 2010, 5M for 2011, 5.2M for 2012, and 5.6M for 2013.

Posted by: kman2 | February 15, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Trading Arenas' contract if we pick up 25% might not be too difficult, because there will be plenty of teams that lose the LeBron, Bosh, and D-wade Sweepstakes that will be desperate for a top-class player. And regardless of how Gilbert behaves off the court, his skill on the court cannot be overlooked. He was top 10 in overall scoring AND assists this season.

Then we hope to hit the John Wall Sweepstakes, maybe get a quality Free Agent or two, then start from scratch.

Posted by: kman2 | February 15, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Ernie would have had more leverage if he waited until closer to the trade deadline. Surely he could have held out for a young player or draft pick (Mavs point guard Beaubois). Any franchise that successfully rebuilds needs draft picks and young players, along with that cap space. THIS TRADE IS A DISASTER!!! We lost two very good players for nothing!

Posted by: travisloop | February 15, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

You may be wondering, as I am, why Washington chose this deal instead of another blockbuster that would’ve sent Jamison and Butler to Boston for a package including Ray Allen. According to sources, a handful of Eastern Conference GMs pressured Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld to shy away from the Boston deal for obvious reasons. "It would screw up the balance of power in the East for three years," one executive said. One theory circulating in Dallas is that Grunfeld didn’t want to alienate other teams he might need to do business with as he continues dismantling the roster in the wake of the Gilbert Arenas firearms fiasco.

If Ken Berger is to be believed (obviously not a given), this is downright insulting to Wizards fans. Ernie Grunfeld was talked out of helping Boston by his competition??? You've got to be kidding me. As Wizards fans, I don't care who our trade makes better. I care about whether it's good for our team. I don't give a hoot if we mess up the "balance of power in the East." Screw those guys. And to think that EG made the Dallas trade just to make it easier to trade Jamison is just ... I mean, how ridiculous is that? Cleveland's moving to Amare Stoudemire anyway. If Ernie really made this trade for those reasons, he should be fired immediately.

The other thing that really bugs me is this disingenuous attempt to sell this trade based on on-court merits. In a sense, I guess Ernie has no choice. He can't go out there and say "we've decided to stink for the time being." But one thing that Ted Leonsis preaches is the need for transparency. An excerpt.

Once you make the decision to rebuild--be transparent. Articulate the plan and sell it loudly and proudly to all constituencies, the media, the organization, the fans, your partners, family and anyone who will listen. Agree to what makes for a successful rebuild--in our case it is "a great young team with upside that can make the playoffs for a decade and win a Stanley Cup or two."

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/2/14/1310131/2010/2/14/1310131/why-the-wizards-mavericks-trade-is

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

They're not going to trade Shaq for Jamison and Miller. The Cavs are a big defensive team, and neither Amare nor Jamison is a very good defensive player. If you had them out on the floor at the same time, you'd really give up a lot of points in the paint. Also, I think Shaq has a couple of years left on his contract, so unless he retired early, the Wizards wouldn't clear any cap space.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | February 15, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Does this trade allow the Wizards to cut money? Technically, yes. The Wizards will save about $2.5 million this year (double that for the tax) and $15 million in 2010/11 by swapping Stevenson out as well. That sounds like a lot of money, and technically, it is. But this trade fails to do the two things that are absolutely necessary to improve the finances of this team. It doesn't eliminate the Wizards' luxury tax penalty, and it doesn't save money in the long, long term. No additional money is saved past 2011, because Stevenson and Butler are off the books by then, and the tax isn't eliminated because, for some odd reason, the Wizards didn't force Dallas to take on Fabricio Oberto for their traded player exception as a price for getting two very good players for nothing.

The last sentence is an example of the lack of creativity here, as well as the lack of planning. I don't have an idea of whether the Wizards decided they need to go into full seller mode sooner than the last few weeks, but as recently as December, Ernie Grunfeld was talking about not having his "full deck" of players. As recently as January, there were vibes that Ernie wanted to hold off on a full-out sale. I don't know if it was all a mask for what Ernie was trying to do, but it certainly seems like he didn't wake up and smell the roses until far too late. All that time wasted was time where minor pieces could have been moved to cut into that luxury-tax bill. The Hornets, for example, completely eliminated their luxury-tax bill by moving the following players: Rasual Butler (summer), Tyson for Emeka (summer), Devin Brown, Hilton Armstrong and Bobby Brown. They saw a problem on the horizon, planned ahead and accomplished their goal. We sat there and did nothing.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/2/14/1310131/2010/2/14/1310131/why-the-wizards-mavericks-trade-is

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

They're not going to trade Shaq for Jamison and Miller. The Cavs are a big defensive team, and neither Amare nor Jamison is a very good defensive player. If you had them out on the floor at the same time, you'd really give up a lot of points in the paint. Also, I think Shaq has a couple of years left on his contract, so unless he retired early, the Wizards wouldn't clear any cap space.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | February 15, 2010 12:46 PM


This is the last year of Shaq's current contract the Wiz would get savings.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

There were all sorts of ways to help avoid the tax. With Memphis worried about Rudy Gay and needing another bench piece, why not inquire about trading Nick Young for their open cap space? How about Mike James for a smaller 2011 contract? DeShawn Stevenson for a smaller 2011 contract that's equally cruddy? These smaller moves would have required more creativity, but would have advanced the goal of getting further under that tax and made it less necessary to dump two decent assets (good players, both of whom are on fair deals and expire before 2011 CBA-gate) for tax room.

And here's another example of bad planning: thinking that Butler and Haywood (and Stevenson, for that matter) are must-dumps. As I wrote earlier this week, the true bad contract on the roster is Antawn Jamison's (well, besides Gilbert Arenas'). Jamison is the one with the larger contract than Butler. Jamison's the one that's 33 and could potentially scare teams away because of his age. Jamison's the one that extends past the 2011 CBA, which only adds more uncertainty to the proceedings even if a) the new CBA isn't as bad as we all think and b) the old contracts can get renegotiated.

But for some reason, whether out of loyalty to Jamison, a misunderstanding of his skills and/or a narrow-minded point of view that only considered that Jamison's been a better player than Butler this season, the Wizards felt that he wasn't as essential to get off the payroll for salary relief instead of Butler and Haywood. That, to be frank, is a ridiculous point of view. We're currently slated to pay $34 million in 2012 to just two players (Arenas and Jamison), when cap flexibility will be most important because of the new CBA. That's when there's tons of potential for the type of unbalanced trades that could net us additional draft picks (like what OKC did the last couple years). To me, not having cap space next year isn't the end of the world - we shouldn't be splurging in the 2010 free agent market anyway because we're at the beginning of rebuilding. Not having cap space in 2012, however, is a problem.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/2/14/1310131/2010/2/14/1310131/why-the-wizards-mavericks-trade-is

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who is saying that Gilbert being resigned for max money was dumb based on his "bad knee," seems to forget that he is currently healthy. The reason he is not playing is because of the gun incident. I personally think the disgust shock etc. over the incident is completely overblown. We are supposed to believe that this team is all about character first, then they go out and trade for some jackass who admits to smoking marijuana (also a violation of league rules for all you law and order types) and says he is not patriotic b/c he is African American. Oh yeah, character counts around here.

What a bunch of BS. Clear the cap room, reconcile w/ Gil and build the team around him w/ good draft picks and some good free agents and new ownership/management.

Posted by: herb6 | February 15, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Leonsis' 10 points aren't all easily transferrable to the NBA, but that one is. I could be wrong, but I think that most Wizards fans understand that the current mix is never going to win a championship. We also mostly understand that we're far enough away that a minor tweak won't do it. You can be frank with us and say "we weren't winning with this mix, so we're doing the necessary things to ensure we'll be at that level in the near future. One of those is to have necessary payroll flexibility" or whatever. Instead, we get this, from the press release:

"Our four new players bring versatility and the experience of playing in a winning situation," said Grunfeld. "Josh and Quinton can each play both the shooting guard and small forward positions while providing athleticism and outside shooting. Drew can play both the power forward and center positions and he and James give us an inside presence that combines skill and toughness."

I mean ... come on! Josh Howard and Quinton Ross are shooting 27 and 23 percent from three-point range this season. They provide outside missing, not outside shooting. And to say Gooden and Singleton provide "an inside presence that combines skill and toughness" is so vague it's not even worth anything.

To his credit, Ernie does throw a nod to "financial flexibility" in an interview with Mike Jones, but there's also a need for "freshness" and how Josh Howard was an all-star three years ago. Then, there's also the "retool on the fly" language from a couple weeks ago. I realize you don't need to tell the truth with these things, but you also don't need to outright lie. Emphasize the future, not the present. We'll understand and appreciate your candor. Just note how young GMs like Kevin Pritchard in Portland and David Kahn in Minnesota have skillfully emphasized the future in their situations and have gone out of their way to connect with the fans. I know I'd feel better about our future if I heard more language from the horses mouth about it.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/2/14/1310131/2010/2/14/1310131/why-the-wizards-mavericks-trade-is

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse


Who cares is an understatement. WTF?

Posted by: hessone | February 15, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Is not one of the possible answers, but I would say fire Ernie!

Posted by: paparulo | February 15, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert Arenas is done folks.

He may hang around the NBA at age 29 next year and for several years thereafer, but his knee problems have robbed him of quickness and jumping ability and the felony conviction has branded him a liability in more than one media market.

He is a lot like Josh Howard, the forward the Wizards got back from Dallas. A former all-star whose knee surgery has robbed him of his physical edge and who earns far in excess of what he is now worth.

At the end of the seson Howard will walk and the team will recoup cap space.

The same should be done with Arenas.

Posted by: leopard09 | February 15, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"You may be wondering, as I am, why Washington chose this deal instead of another blockbuster that would’ve sent Jamison and Butler to Boston for a package including Ray Allen."

What difference does it make? How would renting Ray Allen and Bostons trash for half a season help the Wizards more than renting Josh Howard and Drew Gooden and the Mavs trash for half a season? If Howard works himself back into shape and plays well the rest of the season, at least the Wizards have the option of keeping him for another season (or using him in a trade in the offseason as an expiring contract). There is zero chance that Ray Allen would be a member of the Wizards next season.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

people act like losing haywood is a big deal, the man has 30 more games on his contract if we want him on the squad we can try and sign him this offseason, he had to be moved, purge as much salary as possible, the wiz have about forty mil in expiring contracts now and that is a very good thing, 40 is a big number, say chris bosh and joe johnson big, it is past time to have traded aj, make it happen

Posted by: bford1kb | February 15, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

"Gilbert Arenas is done folks. He may hang around the NBA at age 29 next year and for several years thereafer, but his knee problems have robbed him of quickness and jumping ability and the felony conviction has branded him a liability in more than one media market."

I'd have to disagree...I'll admit, I'm a Gil fan, but the statement above belies the fact that Gil was averaging like 22 and 7 assists or something like that b/f his suspension. He is still one of the top scorers in the league. He's bad on defense, but he's far from done (probably done in DC--which will be stupid decision IMHO)...

Posted by: herb6 | February 15, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"At the end of the seson Howard will walk and the team will recoup cap space.

The same should be done with Arenas."

The same can't be done with Arenas. Howard has a team option after this year, Arenas is guaranteed 4 more years on his contract.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

shaq is in the last year of his contract. 21 Million. and he's off the books.

most people on here criticizing the trades that Ernie is making need to realize why he's doing it. Twan, Butler, or Gil for the matter, are NOT capable of being focal points on a winning basketball team, but they are paid like they are. Therefore, it is much easier to shed those players and take up expiring contracts rather than trading them for long(er) contracts while not knowing that those players will be productive or focal points for building a foundation. Perhaps Ernie is doing that so he can throw money at one of the big 3 free agents? Maybe Bosh?

Posted by: kman2 | February 15, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Here's what is wrong with the NBA:

If you can't void a contract by bringing guns into a locker room, players will continue to bring the league down. Without accountability, morality, ethics, and personal integrity, the league will never survive.

Character matters so I say send Gilbert packing.

Ask yourself: What would happen to you if you brought a gun to work?

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 15, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Ernie is doing that so he can throw money at one of the big 3 free agents? Maybe Bosh?

Posted by: kman2 | February 15, 2010 1:07 PM

The should be the furthest thing on his mind. We need to start over not get right back in the same mess.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

"Without accountability, morality, ethics, and personal integrity, the league will never survive. "

It's survived for 60 years. I don't think it's headed for the endangered species list any time soon.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Abe made a deal with the devil. The devil being a juvenile gimpy combo guard who couldn't play d and rather blog than practice ball control, defense, and leadership.

Abe was senile and didn't see that this team peaked may 2006 when gimpy missed those free throws. Run n Gun didn't work then.

Posted by: jdgreger@yahoo.com | February 15, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Accountability starts at the top. Why in the world would Grunfeld sign Arenas to that monster contract after out the previous two seasons with injury? This decision was the beginning of the end for the Wizards. It's time to clean house, including Grunfeld, and start over! Ted Leonsis .. help !

Posted by: ShineOnMe | February 15, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Character matters so I say send Gilbert packing.

Ask yourself: What would happen to you if you brought a gun to work?

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 15, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Since "character matters," how do you feel about the new acquisition of Josh Howard?

Posted by: herb6 | February 15, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The Ken Berger article is some rather incendiary stuff. But let me just say this; it's not that far-fetched, nor is it far-fetched that such conditions may be attached to EVERY trade conversation.

If you've read Moneyball, there were plenty of anecdotes of Billy Beane "suggesting" to other GMs what trades they should or should not be involved in. It was all part of the gamesmanship of keeping the A's competitive with the rest of baseball.

If it is true, I'm looking at the bright side of it, which is by NOT trading Jamison and Butler to Boston, the GMs at Cleveland, Orlando and Atlanta owe us a SOLID. Grunfeld better be smart enough to cash in those chips and cash them in fast. (Or be a little too smart and keep the favor in his back pocket; it could be a major bargaining chip with the next team owner stroking his paycheck, whether it's here or elsewhere).

Posted by: mabkhar | February 15, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I think alot of the decisions need to be considered in light of what is happening with the ownership negotiations between Teddy and the Pollins.

Apparently things are at a stalemate.

I'm sure Teddy is using the current state of the franchise as leverage - Why should I pay what you are asking me to pay when you are handing me a 17-win team that I have to write a luxury tax check for and has an $80 million contract in total limbo?

The Pollins would like to see this sale through, and I think Ernie is going to be operating under orders to shed as many contracts and as much $$ as possible.

The age of loyalty, favortism and goodwill is over. The team is sunk and the owner's need to sell. It's now a cold hard numbers game.

Posted by: p1funk | February 15, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I just hope that if the plan is to try to void Arenas' contract, the Pollins pull the trigger. If they are going to insist on bleeding Leonsis out of every penny, then the least they could do is void Gilbert's contract on their own watch. That would at least mitigate the stink that sticks onto Leonsis for voiding it. Leonsis would be able to say, rightly so, that it's a clean slate for the Wiz (Bullets?) and use his considerable charm to draw some free agents. Of course, I don't think the Pollins give a toss about the future of the franchise, or else the team would have been sold long ago and they would have fired Grunfeld.

As for the player's union, at some point the lens has to be put on it for its pledge to support Arenas. If it is its job to protect the players, then shouldn't it protect them from guns, theft and shoe-pooping? I think the union is looking at a fan backlash if it rallies around Arenas, just as it took a beating when it rallied around The Choker.

I have come to detest the fact that all decisions seem to be between players and management, when it is the fans who are the true soul, engine and financial backing of any franchise. We need to organize a third force in American sports: the Fan's Union. It is not the Wiz who pay Arenas' salary, it is we who buy tickets, jerseys, concessions, watch games etc. We should have a say in whether Arenas is fit to represent us, whether we should be on the hook for paying him $12 on average out of our pocket every time we go to a Wiz game. We are taken for granted too much, and if we were organized, we could do a lot to improve the quality, integrity and honesty of the sport.

Posted by: SammyT1 | February 15, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

The age of loyalty, favortism and goodwill is over. The team is sunk and the owner's need to sell. It's now a cold hard numbers game.

Posted by: p1funk | February 15, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Shoulder to shoulder.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 15, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert Arenas is done folks.

He may hang around the NBA at age 29 next year and for several years thereafer, but his knee problems have robbed him of quickness and jumping ability and the felony conviction has branded him a liability in more than one media market.

Seriously?

Did you watch any Wizards games in December? Gil is far from done. I actually think he's going to come back even better.

He has a reason to play angry again.

Trust, very few teams are going to be concerned with the gun charge. Be real.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 15, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I hope we trade Jamison to Miami for Michael Beasley. I used the trade machine on ESPN.com and came up with this:

Wizard's get: M.Beasley and J.Foster of the Pacers
Heat get: Jamison
Pacer's get: U. Haslem.

Beasley is young, athletic, and a local talent. It would be exciting to see Beasley, N.Young, McGee, and a lottery pick as the new Wiz Kidz.

Posted by: cgshelton | February 15, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Shoulder to shoulder.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 15, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse


Solidarity.

1) fat-cat billionaires boohooing over operating costs

2) crankly ballers moaning about securing a financial future for their families

3) Ernie Grunfeld is a retard

4) Pollins want Teddy's check and could care less about player/fan loyalty/goodwill and laying a foundation for the future

Posted by: p1funk | February 15, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I hope we trade Jamison to Miami for Michael Beasley. I used the trade machine on ESPN.com and came up with this:

I saw the trade. Why in the world would anyone do that trade?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 15, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I hope we trade Jamison to Miami for Michael Beasley. I used the trade machine on ESPN.com and came up with this:

Wizard's get: M.Beasley and J.Foster of the Pacers
Heat get: Jamison
Pacer's get: U. Haslem.

Beasley is young, athletic, and a local talent. It would be exciting to see Beasley, N.Young, McGee, and a lottery pick as the new Wiz Kidz.

Posted by: cgshelton | February 15, 2010 1:43 PM

Foster is injured so although that works n the trade machine it won't happen in real life. Also why would the Pacers want Haslem as opposed to Beasley & why would Miami deal Beasley for a 33 year old Jamison?

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Owner Micky Arison said the Heat is very active in trade talks, but he blamed the media for saying Michael Beasley is being shopped.


http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/basketball/story/1479688.html

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

We need Jeff and Moses Malone back...The Malone brothers were unstoppable...

Posted by: SA-Town | February 15, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I think we all said it..... let Jamison go.

We really need to start over. That means, we need to build through the draft and free agency understanding it is going to take 2-3 yrs to build a playoff team.

Truth be told, DMV aint the market that Lebron, Wade, etc is looking for. We need to think QUALITY, not ALL STAR; guys that produce and have a record of producing or improving (ex: Andre Miller, Jason Terry, Ben Gordan); not that we could get any of those guys, but steady producers and build from there.

Most importantly, we need to pick guys and stick with them. I already know what people are going to say, but just look at the history. We have helped shape guys and letting them go (Blake, Hayes, Jeffries, Dixon...) We had so pieces and we let them walk away for nothing.

That has to stop for us to be successful!

Posted by: fishin41 | February 15, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Face it. Les Boulez are not going to be any good for the next several years. But then, they haven't been any good for most of the last thirty years - and that's unlikely to improve until the ownership changes and there's a complete house-cleaning from the basketball floor to the very top of the front office.

If the Pollin family really cares about Abe's legacy to the Washington community, they'll get out of the way quickly and let Ted Leonsis do the same kind of slow but steady rebuilding that has the town buzzing about the once doormat Capitals.

Posted by: BethesdaDad | February 15, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Here is an awful trade idea lol.
3 team deal.
Wiz, Cavs, and Suns
Cavs get Amare
Wizards get JJ Hickson, Z & a draft pick
Suns get Jamison & Jamario Moon

Results:

Wizards suck and we get rid of Jamison

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | February 15, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Yes Beasley will be an excellent pair to Haward to make Vc a productive drug corner,when Gilbert is back he will add gun, then Gun+ drug will push us away from VC,It is a excellent way of removing the team away from washington.

Posted by: gtefferra | February 15, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

What's the starting 5 of the DC Jam next year?
PG: John Wall (We wouldn't be Bullets fans if we weren't dreamers...) (Boykins)
SG: Foye (instant o - Nick Young)
SF: Miller
PF: Blatche
C: McGee

Deal Jamison for a draft pick or new talent like Beasley. Would the Wiz ever try to keep him around as a role model for the new team?
Cut a deal with Arenas for his release. I wish him well. Hopefully he will get his head screwed on straight before the end of his NBA career.

Leonsis takes over. Renames the team the DC Jam w/ a return to the red, white & blue classic Bullets look.

Here's two problems. Grunfeld hasn't shown any talent at building through the draft. IS he the man for the job?

Did Flip join the team to be part of a rebuilding job? Is he the man for the job?

Posted by: minorthread | February 15, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to echo what Anacostia85 said. Ernie's handing us a line about how Howard, Singleton et al have skills that will make us a better team... sheesh, have a little respect for our intelligence. We know these guys probably won't be here next season - and that's the prime reason they were acquired. If he could dump them all right now; he would.

Posted by: Giveussomehope | February 15, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

They need to trade Jamison or this "rebuilding" thing will not be complete.

By the way, can we bring back Ethan so we can have a first rate center...lol.

Posted by: Dave381 | February 15, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

GM,

Nice to see your post!

I thought you beat Gil in a card game and ended up buried somewhere?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 15, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing that this team is being dismantled (and reconfigured) with the ownership status still unresolved.

Moreover, whatever the status of the ownership, it also amazes me that Grunfeld can't say (and Michael apparently didn't ask) what "the plan" is? It seems to me Grunfeld is essentially sitting in his office and looking to deal players with no rhyme or reason to what he is doing other than to save money. And where's Flip in this? If he's sticking around, what kind of players does he want to run his system? If he's a point-guard oriented coach, and Foye is not his guy, why isn't that the top priority? If they moved a bunch of our guys and got back one, top-tier point guard, that would be something to build around.

If Leonsis buys this team, he has GOT to get a GM who will communicate to the fans and get them behind his vision and plan. Grunfeld is a throw-back to the days when GM's were invisible; for this team to survive it needs strong publc leadership, which it has sorely lacked.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 15, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to echo what Anacostia85 said. Ernie's handing us a line about how Howard, Singleton et al have skills that will make us a better team... sheesh, have a little respect for our intelligence. We know these guys probably won't be here next season - and that's the prime reason they were acquired. If he could dump them all right now; he would.

Posted by: Giveussomehope | February 15, 2010 2:22 PM

Thanks I can't take credit for that I posted it from Bullets Forever.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Blurred

I don't care about an apology.

I am just trying to explain to the people on here that by letting Ernie clean house he is hurting the club by not getting any draft picks.

He's just not a very good GM.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 15, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. that's what I've been saying for weeks. get picks get picks getpicks. get em now if you can but definitely get somebody to throw in 1st rounders for future years.

Anyway. I voted that I don't care anymore. I will watch a few games to see if McGee starts getting burn,but if he stays on the bench, I will tune out until draft time.

I know you won't miss me, but, adios.

Posted by: Blurred | February 15, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Grunfeld is essentially sitting in his office and looking to deal players with no rhyme or reason
Posted by: jweber1 | February 15, 2010 2:41 PM

He has always done that since he has been here. That is how we got in this mess in the 1st place.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

How about refund season ticket holders money?

This is my last year no matter what happens. Even if we luck up and get John Wall, I'm out. Until we prove that we have what it takes, I'll save my cash and watch Comcast. Giving our best defender away when we talk about becoming better defenders did it for me.
On the bright side, I'm finally rid of 2 players who I thought should have been gone a while ago. ...DS and CB.

Posted by: original_mark | February 15, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Even if we do get some significant salary cap relief this year I hope they are wise with it. No need to rush out and get somebody to just to GET SOMEBODY. You want to make the fans happy but it has to be a smart move. I agree with many who said the top of the FA class probably won't want to come here and I just don't want us to look like that guy walking around the casino with $200 worth of chips in his hands looking for an open table.

If you have to wait until next year to splurge then you do that. Most of us have admitted that rebuilding will take 2-3 years anyway.

Posted by: millineumman | February 15, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

what "the plan" is? It seems to me Grunfeld is essentially sitting in his office and looking to deal players with no rhyme or reason to what he is doing other than to save money.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 15, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

That is the plan!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 15, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, You all are correct. we need to get the king from Cleveland,we need to get Elvin Hays to come back, and we need also Kenny green. Then we will be a great team.

Posted by: usa11291 | February 15, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"Here's two problems. Grunfeld hasn't shown any talent at building through the draft. IS he the man for the job?"

The only teams that really build through the draft are teams are starting from, or close to, scratch (like the Thunder, Bulls, or Blazers). (That's not counting teams like the Spurs or Cavs, who got lucky once in the draft by landing a franchise carrying star.) This is the first time the Wizards have really been in that position under Grunfeld. It remains to be seen how how handles it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Nothing, and I mean nothing of any true substance will happen here until we get new Ownership and a new GM.

Their will be no Jamison for Beasley, why would Miami trade a promising young Player for Jamison? He offers nothing that improves the Heat to contention status.

Hickson from the Cavs? It will not happen for Jamison in return, only Amare.

We can go on and on with this charade. This is about positioning to save the pollin's money as lame duck Owners and to facilitate ther sale of this team, nothing more.

Do you still think for one moment that the abysmal Ernie Grunfeld could rebuild a team that was never built in the first place?

Do we continue to act as if this team actually won 50 games as many projected and use this as a base line of where the team was in reality before Arenas and injuries?

Stop the delusions and get a life or at least find a new team if you are hardcore NBA.

Winning always starts with Ownership and Management and ends with Ownership and Management.

You cannot build a foundation on sand, hype, smoke and mirrors in sports or in life. Why then do you think that their is any real commitment right here and now, until new Ownership takes over, to as EG put it "retool" or even rebuild?.

Several statements above talked about forming a Fan's Union but our will is to weak to even get involved in rebuilding our own Country much less than not supporting a bad Organization, cheaper tickets, keeping salaries down or whatever a Fan Union would actually do.

The tipping point is already here Folks. 400 million in losses for the league and growing.

Maybe now the Players will have to just make due with tens of millions rather than hundreds of millions. Poor things, how in the world can you make it on 2 or 3 million per year in this economy. Damn, the price of "gators" just keeps going up. How is a man supposed to get along on just leather shoes?

This passion speaks volumes to our desire to get away from the harsh realities of our world and transplant us to a fun distraction that is supposed to be Pro Sports. If we had this much passion for civic duty, raising good kids, being kind to one another and just plain living right, we would just laugh this off as the joke that it is.

Get involved in improving this Country and our World. Don't live and die with who we get for Jamison.

Posted by: jshavatt | February 15, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

This is the first time the Wizards have really been in that position under Grunfeld. It remains to be seen how how handles it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 3:12 PM

Let's hope he doesn't get the chance to do further damage.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

What makes anyone think a different GM could have gotten worthwhile draft picks for BTH, DS, and CB?

Butler was playing so poorly people here wanted him gone, even after years of being a fan fav. Who would have thought Debrick could be moved? A guy shoooting like 15% at various points in the season. BTH is a free agent in a few months and will probably be Eric Dampier's backup. I say again, Haywood is Dampier's BACKUP.

Nobody is throwing good draft picks at the group, not when they're taking on so much salary in the 1st place.

Posted by: divi3 | February 15, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

These Trades are Crazy. You don't trade a Caron and Haywood (though Hay is playing harder because it's a contract year and his move to Dallas does shake up the Western Powers) for second stringers (though we should have signed Drew Gooden last offseason).

Can't we throw in Mike James expiring contract? Forget about T-Mac. He's been over-the-hill and overpaid for the past couple years. As Bruce Lee said to O'hara: "Don't waste yourself".

Luis Scola is the Only player we need from Houston (or David Lee from NY). I love Twann but if we could send them him and Mike James for Luis Scola/David Lee and a Draft Pick that's worth doing.

Posted by: liveride | February 15, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"Nobody is throwing good draft picks at the group, not when they're taking on so much salary in the 1st place."

Exactly. The Mavs taking on Stevenson's salary was all the extra consideration the Wizards were ever going to get in this deal.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

the Wizards are irrelvant there is no need to have team in DC anymore the only people who care about the Wizards/Bullets are the African Americans. No one would miss them.

Posted by: jmfaruki | February 15, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Luis Scola is the Only player we need from Houston (or David Lee from NY). I love Twann but if we could send them him and Mike James for Luis Scola/David Lee and a Draft Pick that's worth doing.

Posted by: liveride | February 15, 2010 3:22 PM

That's not gonna happen unless you do it on your xbox

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

*****FIRST MOVE*********

FIRE GRUNFELD BEFORE HE REEKS MORE HAVOC!!!!

Posted by: BruinSteve | February 15, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

jmfaruki said: "the Wizards are irrelvant there is no need to have team in DC anymore the only people who care about the Wizards/Bullets are the African Americans. No one would miss them,"

That may be the most stupid comment I've read regarding the Wizards. And, prior to that post, I thought the idea that LBJ, DWade, or any other all-star would be willing to come to DC at this point was the most ridiculous. Well, I'm not African American and I still care deeply about my home team. I haven't given up on the Redskins and I won't give up on the Wiz. How can you be a true sports fan and even think such a ridiculous thought, much less post it on this site?

Posted by: juliagraffam | February 15, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Here's two problems. Grunfeld hasn't shown any talent at building through the draft. IS he the man for the job?"

The only teams that really build through the draft are teams are starting from, or close to, scratch (like the Thunder, Bulls, or Blazers). (That's not counting teams like the Spurs or Cavs, who got lucky once in the draft by landing a franchise carrying star.) This is the first time the Wizards have really been in that position under Grunfeld. It remains to be seen how how handles it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The man asked a specific question and you didn't answer it so I'll do it for you. Grunfeld has tried to build a contender spending millions on undeserving players and has miserably failed. So, no, he isn't the man for the job.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 15, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

This is the first time the Wizards have really been in that position under Grunfeld. It remains to be seen how how handles it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 3:12 PM

What??? What position is that?
Are you still somewhat hoping that he can still turn this ship around after getting the team in this much trouble on and off the court?

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 15, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

What makes anyone think a different GM could have gotten worthwhile draft picks for BTH, DS, and CB?

Butler was playing so poorly people here wanted him gone, even after years of being a fan fav. Who would have thought Debrick could be moved? A guy shoooting like 15% at various points in the season. BTH is a free agent in a few months and will probably be Eric Dampier's backup. I say again, Haywood is Dampier's BACKUP.

Nobody is throwing good draft picks at the group, not when they're taking on so much salary in the 1st place.


Posted by: divi3 | February 15, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

A worthwile GM wouldn't have gotten us in this mess to begin with. Any moves that he made or is trying to make is to relieve the fiasco he created.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 15, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Exactly. The Mavs taking on Stevenson's salary was all the extra consideration the Wizards were ever going to get in this deal.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Did you read Mike Prada's article on Bullets Forever or do you just permanently fantasize on refuting everyone's points?
If you haven't read it, here is the link:
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/2/14/1310131/2010/2/14/1310131/why-the-wizards-mavericks-trade-is

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 15, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

the Wizards are irrelvant there is no need to have team in DC anymore the only people who care about the Wizards/Bullets are the African Americans.
Posted by: jmfaruki | February 15, 2010 3:24 PM

That may be the most stupid comment I've read
Posted by: juliagraffam | February 15, 2010 3:46 PM

Agreed.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

FIRE GRUNFELD BEFORE HE REEKS MORE HAVOC!!!!

Posted by: BruinSteve | February 15, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

It's not his fault though. Abe forced him to make all those deals from his wheelchair. He gave him $80 millions dollars and told him to spend it on underserving tweeners or else.
And after Abe died, Irene told him not to trade for any prospects or 1st round draft picks as she doesn't want to pay them. She also instructed him to sell the upcoming 1st and 2nd round pick so give the guy a break!

Posted by: Utilityman1 | February 15, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

that's right - any halfway decent GM would have assembled a team of 5 all star starters and several more on the bench. Also, he would have had a dual major in college, so that he could have conducted the necessary pyschological tests to assure all the players were sound of mind at all times. Then, he would have put on his other hat as motivational coach, to make sure all the players were developing to their max potential, and keeping their head in the game at all times. He also would spend more time on the team plane and in the locker room so that he monitor all card games and discussions between players. It's all Grunfeld's fault - he's so one dimensional, and at least 50% to 60% of the other NBA teams win the championship every year, so why doesn't Ernie have us in on some of that that action. He's gotta go, so we can pull in the hidden talents of one or more of these bloggers. Based on the confidence shown here, I'm sure now that several of them are running Fortune 500 companies and just blowing off steam hanging around the Washington Post blog. Come on ownership, these guys are here ready to go!

Posted by: ragtop4spd | February 15, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I would offer to trade the following players in the following order of priority, if they can get back, promising prospects who play DEFENSE and/or draft picks:

1. Jamison
2. Howard
3. Blatche

It looks like Grunfeld is shrewdly trying to create a bidding war amongst playoff contenders before Thursday's trading deadline: in other words, can the Cavs afford to let Jamison go to Boston? Can the Rockets afford to stand pat with Butler in Dallas? Any trades involving Jamison, Howard or Foye should be made to Western Conference teams: the Wizards don't need to be haunted in the future by helping Eastern Conference rivals improve. If they can't get solid offers, end the season with these guys and continue to work trades in the off-season.

Some Centers and Power Forwards to target:

DeJuan Blair (San Antonio)
Ian Mahinmi (San Antonio)
Serge Ibaka (Oklahoma City)
Nenad Krstic (Oklahoma City)
Channing Frye (Phoenix)
Robin Lopez (Phoenix)
Carl Landry (Houston)
Luis Scola (Houston)
Spencer Hawes (Sacramento)
Anthony Tolliver (Golden State)

As to the Wilbon and Lee comments that "Haywood is a solid defensive center", if he was, why did every team consistently abuse the Wizards by driving for layups? I liked Haywood, he proved to be a decent center after Thomas was shipped out, but he isn't a starting center on a title contending team. He can't dominate the post on either end and isn't a consistent 10-10 player. With Haywood, Butler and Jamison, the Wizards had no legitimate intimidating low post defensive presence and other teams clearly understood this and exploited it.

I would start Young, Foye, Blatche, McGee and Gooden with Boykins, James and McGuire coming off the bench (assuming Howard and Jamison are traded and Miller is injured). Gooden could be the solid defensive post player they have needed. Giving Blatche, Young and McGee consistent minutes will tell us definitely if these guys will develop into legitimate starters or are destined for journeyman status. We'll find out if Young/Foye are the answer for the backcourt or additional moves are necessary.

It is very sad that the franchise once again must hit the reset button. It was a combination of bad luck injuries, off-court shenanigans and poor chemistry.

Bring on Leonsis!

Posted by: yoseltzer | February 15, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I've been a Bullets fan since 1980, Ruland and Malone.
Grunfeld is by far the best GM we've had in that time. He's been a great scout of unappreciated talent already in the league -- getting Butler, Jamison, and Arenas were all solid moves. It just didn't work out, chemistry-wise, defense-wise. And while it's true he didn't try to build through the draft that much, his draft picks have been duds for the most part. He went all-in with the contracts to the formerly Big-3, a gamble that went bust. Time to move on, I think, but let's at least give him some nod for bringing the team back from the 20+ years of being a complete joke.

It will be interesting to see if a new owner who is more demanding and less loyal will change the culture of the team.

Posted by: minorthread | February 15, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

ragtop4spd
Well said!
Why didn't Ernie get Labron or Kobe or Dwight?
He really messed up.

Posted by: VBFan | February 15, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

the Wizards are irrelvant there is no need to have team in DC anymore the only people who care about the Wizards/Bullets are the African Americans. No one would miss them.

Posted by: jmfaruki | February 15, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Damn you're dumb. White, white, I'm white. I see a lot of white faces in the stands. Now overall I see a lot less faces than I did before this fiasco year.

Maybe I'll be back when there's hope of a better future. Right now I'm on the side-lines, sort of as a protest against ownership and management's moves over the past twenty months. But I haven't stopped caring - yet. And my skin color wouldn't affect those feelings in any event.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 15, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I just made the mistake of taking a look at the 2010 free agents to see what cap space could mean for the Wiz.

For starters, we all know that if any of the top stars talk to the Wiz it will only be to use them as a way to drum-up the highest bids (like happens to the Nats). And we can all be sure that unless those players have ALREADY decided where they are going, the negociations will all be drawn out to know what the other guy got from whom first.

But, the Wiz could possibly find success if they identify someone else that they believe is worthy of a big deal and aggressively go after them at the beginning of free agency. One of these players would appreciate being called when everyone is still putting out feelers to the big guys.

Plus if you're all still so interested in one of Houston's 3 RFAs (Landry, Lowry, and Sciola), rest assured that if two of them sign big offer sheets that are matched than the third one is sure to go. Look for Landry to sign an offer sheet in line w/what Gortat and Milsap got last year and that should start the tough decisions for Houston.

That would be the GOOD news, but the BAD news is....

Posted by: SportzWiz | February 15, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The BAD news for the offseason is that:

1) The Wiz will probably be shopping in the clearance section and many of those players are old and would prefer trying for a ring over guaranteed playing time.

2) You really don't want to even think about who the Wiz will have playing center next year. It's scary list that includes names like Darko and Rasho. And before someone looks at David Lee as the answer in line with my earlier positive statement, let's be real. Even if they get him, we all know he is PF not a C.

Posted by: SportzWiz | February 15, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, Darko has already said he's going back to Europe, so we miss out on that one.

Given the Wizards' current rebuilding status, the lower upcoming salary cap, impending labor stoppage, and the more fiscally austere CBA that is certain to follow, my guess is that unless they get really lucky and catch the eye of a significant FA (not likely) the Wizards aren't likely to be doling out any big or long FA contracts to anyone this summer. If they can poach an up-and-coming restricted FA at a reasonable price from a team that's watching its spending, they may go that route, but I don't see any bidding wars in their immediate future.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 15, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

ZaZa PACHULIA might be a possibility. He's got a bit of back-bone as evidenced by his chippy play against KEVIN GARNETT in the first round HAWKS loss in the 2008 playoffs. He's certainly underappreciated where he is. Maybe that's a good starting point for next season.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 15, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

ragtop4spd

I am a wizard supporter. You are a fanatic. I don't think Ernie did a good job here. I think he could have done better. When you give someone a max contract you damn well better do some background checks pysch tests etc. When that player feels he is too goofy to be a team captain....it is obvious you made a mistake. Does it make Ernie a evil man...no. Do I dislike him as a person of course not. His plan failed. He had carte blanche to assemble the pieces on this team and he blew it. I don't want to see him continue to work his magic here.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

you have the right to blindly follow behind Ernie and think all his moves were great. I choose not to think that way. I hope we will grow up and become a real NBA franchise one day.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse


Knicks in serious talks for McGrady

By Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports

The New York Knicks are getting closer to reaching the Houston Rockets’ demands for Tracy McGrady(notes) and his $23 million expiring contract, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Knicks and Rockets have designed the framework of a deal that would unload New York’s Jared Jeffries(notes), Jordan Hill(notes) and either Al Harrington(notes) or Larry Hughes(notes) for McGrady, Joey Dorsey(notes) and Brian Cook(notes).

As talks stood on Monday, the price of dumping the burdensome contract of Jeffries – who is owed $6.9 million next season – comes with the Knicks and Rockets exchanging 2011 first-round picks and the Knicks’ 2012 first-round choice going to Houston. New York also might include a 2010 second-round pick.

The Utah Jazz own the Knicks’ first-round pick in 2010.

The discussion on potential draft picks changing hands remains fluid.

The completion of the deal isn’t imminent, but sources involved in the discussions are increasingly confident that after months of back and forth, which intensified over All-Star weekend, an agreement is within reach. TNT’s David Aldridge first reported that talks between the teams had picked up.

One of the hang-ups in the deal, sources said, could be the Knicks’ inclusion of either Harrington or Hughes. There are slight variations of the trade that would change depending on which of the two veteran Knicks’ expiring contracts are included. With Harrington over Hughes in the deal, the Rockets wouldn’t need to include Cook.

Posted by: anacostia85 | February 15, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I believe the correct answer is trade Jamison to get under the cap.

However, the option not given is the one I want most: FIRE ERNIE GRUNFELD!

The man is inept and has set this franchise back so far it's almost inconceiveable. He's left the Wizards with no hope and no future, and all I really want is to see him fired ASAP.

Posted by: kennyh46 | February 15, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

ritual suicide should be an option. the ghost of tiny will not be placated until g-wiz disembowels himself at center court.

Posted by: PindarPushkin | February 15, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

HUGE difference between the Caps' selloff in 2004 and what the Wizards are doing now....

Caps got:

- Brooks Laich for Bondra
- Tomas Fleischmann (and the 1st rnd pick that became Mike Green) for Robert Lang
- Shaone Morrissonn (and the 1st rnd pick that became Jeff Schultz) in the deal with Boston

I understand the Wizards wanting to free up cap space, but do they really think top free agents will be clamoring to come to DC this summer?

Posted by: chombie13 | February 15, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

this ain't abt "freeing" jamison (to me). it's abt getting someone here who leads by example, rather than only by talking. he has a 'nice' game, but we don't need nice: i wanna see 4's who go STRONG to the bucket, instead of playing tiddliwinks. i may be wrong, but i gotta think that jamison's style is part of the reason blatche plays so soft. hopefully, he'll son figure out what his position calls for from him. i am tired of dinks and untimely treys. put some meat on these bones.

Posted by: dcjazzman | February 16, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

what is all the fan crap abt money and cap space? nobody really cares cap space except owners. and OUR owners have almost never used it wisely enough to get more than a 'competitive' team that couldn't challenge for the big one. one championship notwithstanding, THIS is the team that traded earl monroe for two role players: mike riordan and dave stallworth plus, you guessed it: cash.

Posted by: dcjazzman | February 16, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

there IS an upside to gilbert's suspension: his knee might truly heal. he oughta be a can of worms to guard on somebody's team next year. why not ours.

Posted by: dcjazzman | February 16, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

isn't david lee arguably new york's best big guy? why would they give him up for jamison?

Posted by: dcjazzman | February 16, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

It is only when you hit rock bottom do you do the things necessary to get better. The Wizards hit rock bottom this year (although the seeds were there earlier) and now must start fresh with all new players through the draft. It is going to takes years, but we have waited this long anyway. Goes to show you when you let the tail (Arenas) wag the dog (Wizards). I said it much earlier the Wizards were winning 2 years ago without him and his $0 return contract and demands to resign AJ or he walks ruined the Wizards. We did not need agent $111M then and certainly do do need him now. Who would want him when he can destroy your franchise. Gilbert's last civic action should be to invest the millions into inter city projects to help the people of DC rather than buy 6 guns and laugh all the way to the bank. Gil belonfs in the hall of infamy.

Posted by: NewbillJT | February 16, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I fail to see the value in giving away the best players on this team. Why is Washington the only team willing to give away players for nothing? As for Flip, why is he getting a free pass? I thought the Coach was supposed to get the best out of his players. I do not think that Flip has done enough to keep his job. Eddie got more out of less. If we are cleaning house, why not send Flip and Ernie out of town as well.

Posted by: prock84 | February 16, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

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