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Wizards' front line overmatched

The Washington Wizards were outmatched in several areas against Memphis on Wednesday night at Verizon Center, but perhaps the most glaring was along the front line. The Grizzlies' starting big men combined for 62 points, and throughout most of the in the game, Wizards center JaVale McGee had few answers for Memphis counter part Marc Gasol.

Gasol, a second-year center, made his first 10 field goals and finished with 20 points and seven rebounds. Forward Rudy Gay added 20 points and seven rebounds, and forward Zach Randolph had 22 points and nine rebounds, both team highs.

"JaVale was getting his butt kick tonight," Wizards Coach Flip Saunders said. "It was a learning experience for him tonight. I mean he plays 15 minutes, the guy he's going against goes 10 for 10. [McGee] gets one rebound. Those are things he's got to do better."

The Wizards did get a first-half lift from Blatche, who scored 16 of his game-high 24 points before intermission. But in the second half, the Grizzlies began sending multiple defenders at Blatche and allowed him just six field goal attempts. Blatche had 13 attempts in the first half.

Randolph made the biggest difference in the second half, when he scored 13 points on 5-of-8 shooting and added seven rebounds. The all-star was especially effective on the fast break and in other unsettled situations, frequently driving to the basket and creating match-up problems along the way.

Gay also caused the Wizards considerable trouble in the second half, making 4 of 6 shots.

"We've played against teams of that caliber. Denver has great bigs," Blatche said. "It was just one of those games where a couple tips didn't go the way I wanted, a couple rebounds, stuff like that."

By Gene Wang  |  February 25, 2010; 8:00 AM ET
 
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There are going to be nights when they're just overmatched. But for all of this team's hustle, their transition defense is really bad. They're giving up easily 10 points per game just because they're not getting back off of missed shots and turnovers.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 25, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Give them time. They are just getting a few practices as a team under their belt and they are truly missing a real go to person. I don't know what is up with Mike Miller but if he could have hit a couple of those deadly threes he can shoot, the outcome may be different. I for one, am going to try and support these guys. They know they are a rag tag,threw together who probably won't win many games this season. But don't tell them that, they feel they can compete with most anyone and I love that attitude. Will they make mistakes, of course they will. But, lets not be so quick to always tear them down and focus on the negative. We all knew that they were in the rebuilding process and may have gotten a little to happy with the 3 successes they had. But, hey they have loss Josh Howard and no matter what you may think about him, he brought with him a certain energy and attitude that the other guys fed off and now he's out. That has to be hard. Especially with everything else that has gone on. Hell, I don't even blame Flip because his lineup keeps changing. He had no idea what he was getting into when he got here. So lets show the young fellas some love along with the criticism.

Posted by: ivyleague | February 25, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

I still love the effort.. These guys battle and make you proud to rout for them. We also have an issue with outside shooting. We need a true knockdown shooter to make teams play honest. The Grizz had 4 guys in the lane on D for most of the night especially in the second half when they realized they could not contain AB 1on1. Lastly, the rotation is a little unsettling but, you can expect that with a new bunch of guys like this.

Posted by: jtrob_1 | February 25, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Until Javel gains some weight he will be overmatched on many a night. That's why he can't start in this league. Of course he is starting now, but we are in all out lottery mode. Somebody needs to tell the new guys to cool off...hahaha...

Posted by: MeviousMan | February 25, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Mike Miller's mindset is to be a complementary player. Nothing's going to change that. That's why I said it would foolish to overpay him this summer to entice him to stick around.

Posted by: tgif11 | February 25, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I saw a good bbit of the game last night and loved the hustle for the most part. Yes, they were slow getting back a few times. But mostly they were simply overmatched.

McGee needs to get a couple of a$$whoopings like this to know what he needs to do to improve.

This season is lost anyway, so just view each game as a learning opportunity and whatever the coaches do, they must NOT allow any player to "dog it." even for 2 minutes.

Posted by: Blurred | February 25, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

A couple times I saw Fpye calling plays and they way they were run, it is obvious this team is trying and is open to coaching, but they are still early on the learning curve.

Posted by: Blurred | February 25, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

No dribble penetration from the guards.
Thats the first thing I noticed. Without Howard no one attempted to put pressure on the Grizzlies interior and draw fouls.

Randy Foye is playing himself right off the roster.

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 25, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Other than Ernie, Flip and kal I think the rest of us on here wanted to see JM play more minutes this and last year so he would be a little farther a long in his progress?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 25, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Mike Miller's mindset is to be a complementary player. Nothing's going to change that. That's why I said it would foolish to overpay him this summer to entice him to stick around.

Posted by: tgif11

Agreed. Buchantz mentioned last night that Flip needs to design more plays especially for Miller.

I think Mike just doesn't want his percentage to fall too far. That in itself is a form of selfishness. If he can't average at least 10 points a night from here on out how in the world is he worth $6 million a season?

Posted by: elfreako | February 25, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

agree Mcgee needs some butt whoopings. I'd like to see Flip leave him in there when he's getting pushed around, rather than bail him out with Fab. Make the kid take his beatings and hate getting used like that.

Of course, I fully understand why Flip pulled him, but in the end JM only played 15mins and truth is Gasul was killing all of them not just JM.

Singleton is a breath of fresh air! That guy needs to be on the floor, give him Fab's minutes if necessary.

Thornton can play, and is not obsessed with long Js which is a good thing. Glad he's under contract, who knows, could be a keeper.

Miller has regressed and hurt the team more than he helped last night. You can only facilitate so much. When he's on the floor without AB or Thornton, he really has to score rather than dish to Ross or whatever. wtf

Nick Young is lost in the sauce, wasted touches last night. I know he wants to move the ball and show coach he's flowing the offense, but dont hand to Fab 2secs after receiving a pass. Probe and create!

Most importantly, it's becoming clearer nightly (to me anyway) we have our starting PF.

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

This is the kind of game that is good for Blatche's development.

Teams will start to key in on him, and now he has to take a step forward and learn how to adjust to multiple defenders, move the ball to open men, etc.

Team is still playing with alot of effort, and were hounding Memphis with that half-court press at the end. It's amazing what "pros" can do when they are playing for a job.

I swear, the undoing of the NBA will come down to 2 things:

1) Atrocious WWE-style refereeing.
2) Guaranteed contracts.

Posted by: p1funk | February 25, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Any chance ownership finds this lineup tempting?

Gil
Joe Johnson
Thornton
AB
JM

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Foye/Boykins backcourt is untenable, which only increases probability of Gil in a wiz uni next season.

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

McGee has to go through experiences like this to become a good player. Haywood spent years being pushed around, before he turned into the sort of player he is now. (I remember one game in summer league where another center literally shoved him all the way off the court.) Hopefully, it won't take McGee as long, since he's got way, way more athleticism than 'Wood.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | February 25, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

The Grizzlies starting big men Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol both weigh over 260 lbs. Backup center Hamed Haddadi is a strapping 7-2, 265 pounder. The Wizards 'biggest' big man is JaVale McGee at 7-0, 252 lbs. Factor in the athletic Rudy Gay and O.J. Mayo and it's really surprising that the Wiz were competitive.

We really need another athletic center/power forward to complement Al Thornton and Andray Blatche. JaVale is progressing and he plays with a lot of heart. But it's going to be some rough on-the-job training for Mr. McGee until the Wiz bring in another athletic big man.

Posted by: musicmanjr | February 25, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Big Daddy Wookie got an Adult Education last night. Now let's see how he responds after taking a fresh beat down.

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 25, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Foye/Boykins backcourt is untenable, which only increases probability of Gil in a wiz uni next season.

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 9:36 AM

I'm holding out hope for the Knicks to pick Gil up after LeBron re-signs with Cleveland. They have a ton of cash to spend and they might feel the need to appease their fans with a for the Wiz would be to acquire either a stopgap PG (Steve Blake) or a young PG (Lowry) to run Flip's offense. I really wanted to see Crit get a chance, but I don't know if he is irreparably damaged after the OK Corral incident.

Posted by: tgif11 | February 25, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

also looks like JM/AB are playing themselves into starting shape, both look overly winded at times....perhaps another indictment of the training staff

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

i think it will be tough to move Gil before at least another year is off his deal, but if anyone would make that move, the knicks would.

unfortunately, Amare/Boozer/Bosh/Wade and others are out there to pickup too

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

correction:

They have a ton of cash to spend and they might feel the need to appease their fans with a big-name star. The better option for the Wiz would be to acquire either a stopgap PG (Steve Blake) or a young PG (Lowry) to run Flip's offense.

Posted by: tgif11 | February 25, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

@p1funk
You hit the nail on the head. Guaranteed contracts have been a bane to the NBA.

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 25, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

The whole team was pushed around, not just Javale. Compared to Jamison whom everyone around here thought was an undersized PF, all the forwards backing up Blatche are shorter and leaner than Jamison. And you had two seven footers wearing out Javale. They shot better and they pushed him around. Why did I think the Wizards might have won??? With Howard as the second offensive threat together with Blatche they might have, but without him....

Posted by: rickgonz | February 25, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"We've played against teams of that caliber. Denver has great bigs," Blatche said. "It was just one of those games where a couple tips didn't go the way I wanted, a couple rebounds, stuff like that."

If AJ had said that he would have been selfish for saying I. Surprised nobody called him MeDray.

I don't think playing time would've stopped JM from getting schooled. He's just too light. He needs to get in that weight room and stop relying on athleticism.


Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

divi3:

"i think it will be tough to move Gil..."

I think you're right. Been sayin' all along unless GIL gets SERIOUS hard time[three-four years]he'll be back on the court for the next two years until his player option is up. He will get fined, jail-time suspended, and probation. The only wild card here is that this incident is his second offense. But there's just too much money at stake here. Now you or I, or at least myself, well..............

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

musicmanjr, I agree with you 100%. Although I think Thornton's size/weight suits him better at SF. The team is in need of a makeover this summer. I am looking forward to more trades.

Posted by: rickgonz | February 25, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

"....Miller has regressed and hurt the team more than he helped last night. You can only facilitate so much. When he's on the floor without AB or Thornton, he really has to score rather than dish to Ross or whatever...." divi3

MILLER needs to go to the rack a few times. The GRIZZ were just standing there waiting for him to pass off as he drove the hoop. The jig is up on that stuff. The word is out.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 10:10 AM

it's funny, i've been assuming he wont get more than 30 days in jail...but who knows right? i've also been assuming he's quietly out in the community now doing all sorts of "good citizen" stuff...but is he?

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: horace1 | February 25, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse


"We've played against teams of that caliber. Denver has great bigs," Blatche said. "It was just one of those games where a couple tips didn't go the way I wanted, a couple rebounds, stuff like that."

If AJ had said that he would have been selfish for saying I. Surprised nobody called him MeDray.

I don't think playing time would've stopped JM from getting schooled. He's just too light. He needs to get in that weight room and stop relying on athleticism.


Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2010 10:08 AM

I like his attitude there, afterall, it was a 5pt loss not a blowout regardless of how overmatched the frontline was. And like someone mentioned, the inability of Foye/Boykins to create off their dribble was as much a weakness as JMs poor play imo.

One of those games where you think "Gil would be pretty helpful right about now"

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I like his attitude there, afterall, it was a 5pt loss not a blowout regardless of how overmatched the frontline was. And like someone mentioned, the inability of Foye/Boykins to create off their dribble was as much a weakness as JMs poor play imo.

One of those games where you think "Gil would be pretty helpful right about now"

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. That's never really been Foye, I think because he's playing there people think he's a PG. He's more of a scorer...that would play off someone who could create for him so much better.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

"Big Daddy Wookie got an Adult Education last night. Now let's see how he responds after taking a fresh beat down."


Posted by: bozomoeman | February 25, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

JaVALE's not going anywhere.

Are you saying like into a shell? Like curl up and die? If he wants serious money in this league he can't let that happen and he won't. He'll gain another fifteen or so pounds and fill out at about 265-270. With that and another year's experience, he'll be performing some hard-down play time.

I noticed when the GRIZZ started sending white jerseys to the floor, it wasn't too long before blue ones started hitting the deck as well. I didn't see that from the past editions of the WIZ.

I'm in accord with the blog-meister on this one. One more DREW GOODEN and they'll be ready on the front-line.

NICK YOUNG on the other hand, I'm not nearly as confident about. He continues to pizz away his PT. Dude, get off whatever you're smoking, and show you head to the crowd instead of hiding it up you azz.

divi3:

As for JOE JOHNSON, too much one-on-one for my taste, and too much money. Dude is a CARON BUTLER in the offensive scheme of things. Little defense. Maybe I'm too critical, but I think he's where BUTLER is longevity in the league-wise as well. He's ready for that retirement contract, and the WIZ have had too many of those in the recent past. Good thought divi, wrong guy, IMHO of course.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. That's never really been Foye, I think because he's playing there people think he's a PG. He's more of a scorer...that would play off someone who could create for him so much better.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Down with that. So Mr. GM, whoever you will be come June, we need a #4,5 and a great young #1. Let's get it done. You've got four chances to get it right in a pretty deep draft. Use ours and trade off the CAVs first and our second rounder and move up into the lower mid-range for a 16-22 pick and try to draft one of each.

BTW, anybody know what compensation if any we get if the KINGS pick is protected, which it probably will be.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

There are going to be nights when they're just overmatched. But for all of this team's hustle, their transition defense is really bad. They're giving up easily 10 points per game just because they're not getting back off of missed shots and turnovers.

Posted by: jweber1 | February 25, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

For all the hustle, and hard work these guys are trying to do (this is their only loss since the allstar break where the didn't give up 100. 2-1 since the break when they keep opponents under a buck) i think you'd be easy on the transition d against a really athletic team. MEM has been together running their offense,defense,break since preseason with all the same guys. The wiz have had a 1 practice and have ben together a week. If they're serious about competing this year for the 8, i expect guys to work hard in the coming weeks at finding their spots in transition and knowing where their teammates will be.
Hollins coached a good game last night. he saw a team that hadn't practiced together and was trying to play basic basketball. His team was more physical and aggresive from the opening tip and really ended up doing all of the things these wizards had done well (hustle,transition baskets,turning people over), better than them.

I also think Flip coulda gave Javale some more mins against Haddadi, but you can see from his comments how upset he was with javale.
i didn't see MM's line but i don't think folks would beef if i said he played like garbage last night (i guess flip didn't notice). his non contribution can be as frustrating as Javale getting schooled by a guy; who by all accounts, everybody shoulda known was better. And the turnovers rival the obligatory CB dribble off his foot move.
I don't think NY played poorly, he definitely wasn't forcing it. I just don't know if we should expect him to be a guy that's going to the rim very much un the halfcourt. Flip talked all that Rip garbage in the summer, and here we are talking about him being a slasher. All summer his coach worked with him in being a catch and shoot, jumpshooter. That was the "Old Nick" with the reverse spin Bangladesh on Haddadi.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 25, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh Mr.GM, ASAP, re-up JAMES SINGLETON for three. He's gets critical rebounds, and makes bodies fly. Not too bad on shot selection either. Only one shot he tried, I didn't like last night. And that was a first for him. Outside, and too quick.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Mike Miller's mindset is to be a complementary player. Nothing's going to change that. That's why I said it would foolish to overpay him this summer to entice him to stick around.

Posted by: tgif11 | February 25, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

The blog was kicking that around yesterday. My take was..... that is a correct analysis. Although I'd love to resign him, it shouldn't be for more than 5-6 mill as a facilitator. Glue is much cheaper than granite. No less important, but still cheaper.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

In fairness, Memphis has a pretty good front-line. .

The big thing last night though was positioning. There were a couple plays where it looked like McGee was providing help defense outside the low post with his back turned to the basket. In one case that opened up the lane for Gasol to drop an uncontested 16-18 footer; he's also leaving the basket open to cutters. The energy is there most of the time, he's still learning the position though -- especially on the defensive end. Probably would help if he had another 10-15 lbs. of muscle -- that would also make it harder for opponents to push him off the block in the low-post.

Posted by: JPRS | February 25, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Down with that. So Mr. GM, whoever you will be come June, we need a #4,5 and a great young #1. Let's get it done. You've got four chances to get it right in a pretty deep draft. Use ours and trade off the CAVs first and our second rounder and move up into the lower mid-range for a 16-22 pick and try to draft one of each.

BTW, anybody know what compensation if any we get if the KINGS pick is protected, which it probably will be.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Luckily, the 1 and 4/5 are the strong points in the draft this year. There are at least 10 PF/C's that would be a help to this team over the next few years.


Also...Javale is what? 20? 21? He will put on wieght in the next year or two.

That Mike Harris had some solid beef on him. Maybe he be a bit of a player.

Can we trade for Eric Maynor this summer, please?

Posted by: Blurred | February 25, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse


"JaVale was getting his butt kick tonight," Wizards Coach Flip Saunders said. "It was a learning experience for him tonight. I mean he plays 15 minutes, the guy he's going against goes 10 for 10. [McGee] gets one rebound. Those are things he's got to do better."


Damn, Flip. Are you trying to humiliate him or motivate him? While you're at it, give some of that public criticism to Miller for his turnovers and passing up open shots.
Stop perpetuating this "two sets of rules" junk for vets and youngins!

Posted by: gimmedat | February 25, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Miller is a standup shooter, when his feet are set, he is very good. But when he is driving, he often throws the ball away. Even though he is a good passer, I don't think he passes well when he is driving, nor can he finish the drive strong.

Instead of Miller driving and dishing to others, I don't know why coach did not draw up some plays for others to dish to Miller for open jump shots.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I like Singleton too. He's basically what we wanted Dom to develop into. With less playmaking ability. If we don't get John Wall I think Arenas coming back will be the PG...Arenas, Young, Thornton, Blatche and JM may be what we're looking at next season.

I really don't think a big FA signing this summer is in order.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Few things I noticed. 1. They need to give Miller a hair extention as he plays better with long mane. 2. Where is Randy Foye? With Arenas, Butler and Jamison (yes the not so big-3) gone I kind of expect him to step up his game. 3. AB-Thorton will be our forward combo for the future....they get their points without taking 30 shots.

Posted by: Dave381 | February 25, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

In terms of scoring, Blatche and Josh Howard have been the two go-to guys for Wiz after the trade. Now Howards is gone, and other teams start to key on Blatche, we are going to have nights like this.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse


I don't know why coach did not draw up some plays for others to dish to Miller for open jump shots.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:14 AM

Don't get LarryinClinton started again.

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why coach did not draw up some plays for others to dish to Miller for open jump shots.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:14 AM

flip said he has never had to run a play for a guy to be effective, but maybe that doesn't apply to MM either

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 25, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

We need to give Mike Sweetney a look. A local guy who was the last cut for the Celtics. He is only 27 so would be a low risk/high reward situation if it works out.
Give him a 10 day and if it works and if it doesn't it doesn't.

Posted by: g-money | February 25, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Can we trade for Eric Maynor this summer, please?

Posted by: Blurred | February 25, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

SWEET thought.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

We need a pg who can pass and someone (does not have to be pg) who can drive to the basket We also need a scorer who other teams would have tough time stopping, and need to spend energy concentrate on him.

Guess what? Gilbert can do all three if he can fit in (I am not saying he can, that is the biggest if.) Yeah, Gilbert is a score-first pg, but when he passes, he exhibits skills that neither Foye nor Boykins can match. However, there is still that biggest if mentioned above.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse


Damn, Flip. Are you trying to humiliate him or motivate him? While you're at it, give some of that public criticism to Miller for his turnovers and passing up open shots.
Stop perpetuating this "two sets of rules" junk for vets and youngins!

Posted by: gimmedat | February 25, 2010 11:13 AM


Some things will always remain the same.

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"I like his attitude there, afterall, it was a 5pt loss not a blowout regardless of how overmatched the frontline was. And like someone mentioned, the inability of Foye/Boykins to create off their dribble was as much a weakness as JMs poor play imo.

One of those games where you think 'Gil would be pretty helpful right about now'"

Posted by: divi3

C'mon divi, I know you're being an optimist, which I appreciate, but you also know that that game was worse than a 5 pt loss. Mayo and Randloph pretty much shut the door with big 3's and the Grizz let up after that.

Games like that help illuminate why JM doesn't always get as much burn as we all hope he would. It is important for him to be out there to learn, but at the same time, it's not fair to all of the other guys if he's going to be abused repeatedly. Hopefully last night was embarassing enough for him to realize the kind of work he needs to put in. You can say that Gasol is too big for him, and once he gets the ball down low, that is true. But McGee needs to realize how much harder he needs to work at denying post position. He simply, flat-out was not working hard enough. At his age, I'll take failures of skill or knowledge, but not failures of effort. I think that's why Flip was upset as well.

Blatche has come along on the offensive end, but he too, needs to work harder on positioning, on offense and defense. And the times I saw Randolph take off down the floor after Blatche misses and get easy looks....that's inexcusable if you want to be a big time player and leader. So as nice as it is to see progress, it's why some of us are reluctant to hand over the keys and make him a building block.

All of that being said, they were just beaten by a more talented team last night. Even without Randolph and Gasol, we don't have good equivalents for Gay, Mayo and Conley.

And to be honest, at no time last night did I think that Gil would pretty helpful right now. If Gil were playing, not only would our defense and on court team chemistry suffer, but also, your boy Blatche would not see the ball nearly as much on the block. We'd get a lot 3's from Gil, which would give license to Foye and Young to jack up shots as well.

Posted by: ts35 | February 25, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I really don't think a big FA signing this summer is in order.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Roll with that. Let's keep this young for the next couple of years. GIL can be the veteran presence.........wha.....????

Well, that's what we're looking at. I sure hope he's sprouted into an oak from the sapling he was before December.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Damn, Flip. Are you trying to humiliate him or motivate him? While you're at it, give some of that public criticism to Miller for his turnovers and passing up open shots.
Stop perpetuating this "two sets of rules" junk for vets and youngins!

Posted by: gimmedat | February 25, 2010 11:13 AM

That's Flip's way, tear down the young guys as much as possible. Hopefully behind closed doors he mentions to JM he was 4-5 against Gasul if you want to pretend that every shot between them is a 1-on-1 situation.

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Guess what? Gilbert can do all three if he can fit in (I am not saying he can, that is the biggest if.) Yeah, Gilbert is a score-first pg, but when he passes, he exhibits skills that neither Foye nor Boykins can match. However, there is still that biggest if mentioned above.


Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:27 AM

The goofball quotient is what many people feel Gilbert has too much of to ever be in a Wizards uniform again. As such, he's probably not the best veteran to have in a locker room full of young players and I personally hope they can somehow move him before training camp next year.

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

We need to give Mike Sweetney a look. A local guy who was the last cut for the Celtics. He is only 27 so would be a low risk/high reward situation if it works out.
Give him a 10 day and if it works and if it doesn't it doesn't.

Posted by: g-money

No worries, Mrs. Sweetney, I'm sure your son will find work some time soon.

Posted by: ts35 | February 25, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"Games like that help illuminate why JM doesn't always get as much burn as we all hope he would. It is important for him to be out there to learn, but at the same time, it's not fair to all of the other guys if he's going to be abused repeatedly."

Gasul was 0-1 in the 4th Q, and I'm pretty sure it wasnt just Mcgee he was abusing as he logged 33mins to JM's 15.

Agree 100% Mcgee wasnt working hard enough, also he gets discouraged easily. To me, it looks like he's not in good enough shape either. He should be constantly sprinting right by the likes of Gasul. The few times Gasul had to run the floor he was getting gassed like any big dude does.

"And to be honest, at no time last night did I think that Gil would pretty helpful right now. If Gil were playing, not only would our defense and on court team chemistry suffer, but also, your boy Blatche would not see the ball nearly as much on the block"

eh, I dont know, with AJ/CB gone there are a ton of shots to be had and Gil was averaging 7dimes this season. I think AB has a ways to go too, but he's only 23! Like someone said, he's getting his without taking a million shots. If anything he should be a little more selfish, could result in more FTs. Which he hits!

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Lee on Washington Post:
"The Wizards have reached a buyout agreement with center Zydrunas Ilgauskas, according to a person with knowledge of the negotiations. The 7-foot-3 Ilgauskas is expected to pay back between $1 million and $1.5 million of his $11.5 million contract"

Now is the 1-1.5 million prorated?

Regardless, we are going to pay Z more money to not play with us then most of players here to play with ue (the only exceptions are Howards and Miller)!

Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

MeGee's problem is that he wasn't "down" enough to hold his position when defending. His priority is always on blocking shots. Even if you just wave the ball in front of him, his center of gravity goes allover the place (up and not in center), so it is very easy to back him down or just completely fake him out.

Posted by: sagaliba | February 25, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

yeah, Joe Johnson probably takes too many shots. But he does hit them. And right now, this team has ZILCH scoring in the backcourt. I think everyone can envision AB/JM improving and being worth continued developing.

Does anybody see that with Foye? Boykins?? Miller? How about Young?

somebody has to be a consistent scorer in the backcourt. Which makes the decision on our first pick basically- do we roll with Gil and draft a PF/C? Or get the correct guard in here? Tough call

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

^^^^^

Saga - I don't know and really don't care too much about how much he gets paid. Its a stupid business with stupid money and none of it is mine (I quit going to games in person a long time ago).

Whether we pay him $0.25 or $3 million isn't going to affect whther we go to the playoffs or not this year or any other.

I am just glad he isn't going to be in the lineup taking time from JM and AB.

Posted by: Blurred | February 25, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

somebody has to be a consistent scorer in the backcourt. Which makes the decision on our first pick basically- do we roll with Gil and draft a PF/C? Or get the correct guard in here? Tough call

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

It surely is.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

ts35, one more thing:

agree with 100% on ABs game last night and what he needs to do to keep improving.

However, let's not forget that he certainly held his own against Randolph as much as AJ ever did right? AB went 24/8/5dimes on over 50% FG. I thought he played better D than Randolph as well (active hands, better on the ball).

point being- i'm still on the Dray Train!

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The goofball quotient is what many people feel Gilbert has too much of to ever be in a Wizards uniform again. As such, he's probably not the best veteran to have in a locker room full of young players and I personally hope they can somehow move him before training camp next year.

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

If only that could happen. I just don't see any way short of the WIZ being able to void his contract. Only a very slim chance of that happening - a serious jail sentence with actual one-two years of hard time. Don't see it, just don't see it.

No, GA's gonna' be here next year to influence the team one way or another.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

point being- i'm still on the Dray Train!

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

ZEROX that.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Flip Sauners is a joke. As poorly as this team has played defensively all year, ths is the first time (after 55 ganes) he has called out an individual player. As poorly as the post play was, the game was lost in the 4th quarter due to poor guard play and the inability to create offense. Indivdual defense actually lost the Toronto gane where Jacj and Calderon went off in the 4th quarter and he made no adjustment for Boykins at the guard slot. The infatuation with the "dribbleman" Boykins is maddening.

Last night OJ Mayo was huge coupled with the inability of our guards to penetrate and create offense. Thats why Mike Miller does not take more shots becuase if no one creates he does not get wide open jumpshots. Would someone please tell BUCKHANTZ that MM is a solid role player who plays well off of dribble penetration (not creating his own shot).

Thsi game is Exhibit A why you bring back a healthy (hopefully focused) Gilbert Arenas.

Posted by: NewManagement | February 25, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

No, GA's gonna' be here next year to influence the team one way or another.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 12:00 PM

Say it ain't so!! :-(

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

7-day Dray is making me a believer.

I'll hoist one to the best 49th draft pick of the past 30 years tomorrow night!

Posted by: Blurred | February 25, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"Agree 100% Mcgee wasnt working hard enough...."

MeGee's problem is that he wasn't "down" enough to hold his position when defending. His priority is always on blocking shots. Even if you just wave the ball in front of him, his center of gravity goes allover the place (up and not in center), so it is very easy to back him down or just completely fake him out.

I do think he was working hard, maybe too hard. But not necessarily smart. I do agree with the second poster which I pasted here.

The kid will learn however. Another year's seasoning and fifteen more pounds of muscle and he'll be on track unless he can't carry the weight while retaining his athleticism and wind. In that case, you've got to realize that he's really a four and can only role-play in the five.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Say it ain't so!! :-(

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I wish I could see the ARENAS situation any other way, but I don't. Of course miricles do happen. I'll wear out the rug next to my bed until next season.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 25, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"Gasul was 0-1 in the 4th Q, and I'm pretty sure it wasnt just Mcgee he was abusing as he logged 33mins to JM's 15."

No, and Gasol was also getting good looks off of Conley's penetration, but our continuing discussion has been about the development of JM and AB, and JM was consistently abused by Gasol in the post....badly. Which is a big part of the reason McGee only played 15 mins. Gasol is a nice player, but he's not a world beater.

"Eh, I dont know, with AJ/CB gone there are a ton of shots to be had and Gil was averaging 7dimes this season. I think AB has a ways to go too, but he's only 23! Like someone said, he's getting his without taking a million shots. If anything he should be a little more selfish, could result in more FTs. Which he hits!"

The 'only 23' argument only carries you so far, because first, he's in his fifth year in the league. More than enough time to have figured some of these things out. Second, because there are players who are younger who are much further along.

Also, it's not so much about how many shots Blatche would get, but where and how he would get them from Gil. The team as currently composed is very willing to go through Blatche in the post a lot. Not sure Gil would be so willing. This team also currently moves the ball from side to side a lot, whereas Gil (along with AJ and CB) tended to hold it more and look for opportunties, which gets frustrating for other players. Kind of like when Foye or Boykins occasionally over-dribble the basketball looking for one particular thing.

Gil is obviously a very talented offensive player, so no doubt his scoring ability and playmaking ability would come in handy. But personally I feel like the long term development of the franchise is better served by adopting a different style of offense with more of a team focus. They can try to do that with the rest of this year and then hopefully have that structure in place for new players they bring in next year.

Posted by: ts35 | February 25, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"As poorly as the post play was, the game was lost in the 4th quarter due to poor guard play"

preach it.

Thsi game is Exhibit A why you bring back a healthy (hopefully focused) Gilbert Arenas.

Posted by: NewManagement

ALMOST want Gil to do 30days just to ensure that he's all grown up next year and all the goofy nonsense is gone for good.

I say almost, 'cause 30days in the can is no joke and it's just bball we're talking about here

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"The 'only 23' argument only carries you so far, because first, he's in his fifth year in the league. More than enough time to have figured some of these things out. Second, because there are players who are younger who are much further along."

Are there? Like whom?

The thing is, by the end of this season we're going to have to decide if we're drafting a PF to replace AB or not. There's not going to be both a starting PF and starter at PG available for us. All I'm saying is AB is looking more and more like a guy we shouldnt be drafting kids to replace.

Of course in this new nba, you could get away with AB playing C on most nights so who knows what they'll do.

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Flip Sauners is a joke. As poorly as this team has played defensively all year, ths is the first time (after 55 ganes) he has called out an individual player.

That's just flat out false.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

"However, let's not forget that he certainly held his own against Randolph as much as AJ ever did right? AB went 24/8/5dimes on over 50% FG. I thought he played better D than Randolph as well (active hands, better on the ball).

point being- i'm still on the Dray Train!"

somebody has to be a consistent scorer in the backcourt. Which makes the decision on our first pick basically- do we roll with Gil and draft a PF/C? Or get the correct guard in here? Tough call

Posted by: divi3

AB did hold his own in that sense and overall is a better defender right now than AJ is...but that's a pretty low threshold. He needs to step it up. They also needed him to be more of a factor in the 2nd half, but that's definitely not all on him. Except for Thornton, he wasn't getting a lot of help.

So I think it is safe to say that the Dray Train is still chugging along, but it's just not High Speed Rail yet.

As for who they bring in next year and who they draft (putting ownership questions aside). I think it will partly depend on what they do or are able to do with Gil. After that, it will depend on who wants to play here. If they can sign a solid PF / C, they have the freedom then to go after backcourt in the draft. If their best FA options are guards, then they look to get a big man or two in the draft.

Plus, even though the Cavs pick will be at the end of the first round. There is still talent they can pluck for either spot with that pick. Usually guards slip more than big men. But I agree, they do need both a scorer in the backcourt and a PG who can run the team without the limitations of Foye or Boykins.

Posted by: ts35 | February 25, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

As I recall, Flip called out the whole starting five before they were traded. He said they could not stop anyone with their defense including himself. As for Javale McGee, so what he called him out. He will just have to man up and make adjustments. He is a young man playing in a man's game. He just needs to suck it up and look over the tapes of last nights game to figure out where he went wrong and make corrections. The NBA is no place to coddle players. He'll be allright. I am glad he called him out. He needs a bit of toughening up anyway. I would like to see some of you who criticize Flip to drive this mangled ship for a minute and see how well you coach with revolving door players.

Posted by: ivyleague | February 25, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The tough thing with motivation is that different players respond to different things.

e.g. Some players are so self-motivated that the coach doesn't need to lavish them with praise or call them out publicly (see Garnett, Kevin).

I think Flip sees that McGee is one of those players -- like many young players -- who still can't decide whether he wants to treat the sport like a hobby or a vocation. It's risky, but I'm sure he wants to get under McGee's skin a little bit, so that he gives a little extra and takes a little more pride in his work.

As a coach the kind of techniques that you might try with a second year player you probably wouldn't consider with a 7 or 10 year vet (e.g. you don't make it in the league that long if you still have raw ability and just a basic skill set, plus the old motivational tricks are just old tricks by that point).

I'd guess that McGee is man enough to handle the ribbing. What Saunders said was both true and fair (e.g. yes, McGee got his butt kicked, but Saunders recognizes that it's also part of McGee's learning process. He needs to get better).

Posted by: JPRS | February 25, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

The 'only 23' argument only carries you so far, because first, he's in his fifth year in the league. More than enough time to have figured some of these things out. Second, because there are players who are younger who are much further along.


This refrain is getting kinda old. look around the league. there are tons of guys with all of the physical talent to be the next MJ but don't have the heart,mind or work ethic. there are tons of players with all of the intangibles, but none of the physical tools needed to be considered great. It's a rare few players that have all of that talent and completely get it. raggin on a 23 yr old for being immature is kinda lame. 5 yrs of playing pro basketball for millions doesn't neccesarily spur maturity. Conversely it enables these guys to insulate themselves from struggles of a workingclass individual, who's never been given a break because of his height speed or leaping ability.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 25, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

@ivyleague,

Collectively calling out the whoe starting five is quite different than calling out Jamison specfically as a sh!tty defender, wouldn't you agree?

Look, I'm all for accountability, manning up, etc., but Flip seems to reserve his most blunt remarks for the the youngins (Blatche, McGee, Young). Let's see him blast Miller's behind for blowing the Toronto game with his turnover-fest or his refusal to take open shots when the team badly needs him to do just that, then we can talk.

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

James is going to sign in ohio.wade would go to chicago or sign in miami.Amare will join either wade or James.If miami is not going to sign amare they will pick boozer.If they fail to do both wade is in chicago.joe johanson will probably be the other pick by chicago.It is only bosh who might go to Ny or NJ, our Gm has also an equal shoot on him but i do not see the significance. Basicaly their is no free agent other than arenas for new york to add on bosh.orlando is going to miss this season eastern confrence game which might increase the chance of Arenas to be picked.we might end up picking the contract of Carter, again it is better to keep gil instade of getting Carter in washgington.

Posted by: gtefferra | February 25, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

@ivyleague
i don't know how many people said flip unfairly chastised javale. I think more people are tired of Flip "coddling" his sweethearts Miller and Foye. Those guys came at a heavy price. Take into account the pick (Curry anong others), the players lost (no real ballers, but bigger more athletic bodies than OLDberto) and what can be perceived as a real shock to the team's chemistry; and you can see reason to be really critical of the move. i have been a MM fan, but he's making it really difficult these days. Flip really doesn't challenge Foye, who is really underacheiving right now IMHO. Miller can do no wrong even when he follows up a 8 turnover game this weekend by turning it over in real critical stretches of the game. Flip's comments put 100% of the blame on JM while giving another pass to his Timbercubs.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 25, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Depends on how you look at it. Jamison was one of the starting five and from what I remember, he didn't like it very much even though Flip spoke the truth. I don't see where what he said in the media about McGee was all that bad. He also said that it was a lesson he would have to learn since he was their big man who the team would be turning too. I am hopeful that McGee will use his statement as motivation and will be better next game. I don't know, it just seems like the trades brought about a change in all of the guys that were left here and it seems to be all for the good. McGee will be fine. Now, if mentally, we can just get Young in line. Even Blatche said that Young will be fine if he believes in himself more and stops getting so down on himself when he makes mistakes. Now, Young is one of the guys that I don't think could handle the criticism from Flip lke McGee can.

Posted by: ivyleague | February 25, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Marc Gasol should have been a Wizard. Back in '07 the Wiz took the forgettable Dominic McGuire with the 47th pick in the second round. The very next pick by the LA Lakers was Marc Gasol, a guy who is averaging 14.9 pts. and 9.4 rebounds per game. A second round pick schooled Ernie Grunfeld's 1st round pick Javale McGee. Thanks Ernie!

Posted by: wbjking | February 25, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Right now...today...as we speak...forever more..

Andray Blatche is a better player than Antawn Jamison. He's an equal rebounder. He's a better defender. He's a better shotblocker. He's a better passer. The only area where AJ has him beat is shooting 3's and that shouldnt be a PF role traditionally anyway.

Are we even still comparing the two?

Secondly, Thornton was measured at 6'5.75" at the predraft camp in 2007. He's undersized for PF and it shows. He needs to be exclusively at the sf spot and should work on his shooting this summer.

Hopefully we can all agree that AB is the guy this team should be building around. He's far and away our best player (and has been for at least a year) and just needed time and space to grow into his role as the low post option that folks have been complaining that we were missing. Our next most important player (IMO) is Singleton. He's the guy who comes in, hustles and makes playing defense infectious. We go to a whole other level when he comes into the game. This guy needs to be re-signed.

Once we get Gil back, there's no limit to what we should be able to do offensively. We will finally have the inside-outside thing we've been looking for.
Our biggest missing piece is a defensive minded C.

With all of this spare money, why not bring back BTH for 8-10 mill per year? That gives us a guy we're familiar with who knows the offense and knows his role.
The core of our team should be Gil, BTH and Dray. Add Singleton, Thornton, Miller, and Foye in the mix and we should be able to score and defend with the best of them.
Of course, that's all wishful thinking.

Posted by: original_mark | February 25, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

the way they're playing now, i dont want to see Boykins, Foye, or Miller on the team next season. But that's a pretty huge hole to fill.

Seriously though, some of the crosscourt pass attempts Miller tried last night would have had Nick Young benched for a MONTH.

Foye nibbles around the edges of the perimeter, not a threat to score, so nothing opens up and there's never a quick dish for a score. Not a good defender, pure pg, or scorer. So wtf?

Earl dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and dribbles

and dribbles

dont care much what Flip yaps after the game, but I hope to God he's trying to address this stuff in practice.

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

And don't sleep on Nick Young. He's suffering from the same thing as Dray. Although I don't think he's on the same level, I am positive that if he got consistent minutes and a consistent role, he'd produce. He should be starting because we need more offensive threats on the floor when they start doubling Dray.
When he's confident, his shot is money. It's like watching a young Jeff Malone. You almost are surprised when his jumper DOESNT go in.

As an aside, I think we'll start to see Dray's numbers drop because he's gotta be the highlight on scouting reports these days. The drop wont be because he's inconsistent. It'll be because of the increased attention.

Posted by: original_mark | February 25, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Lilhollywood 10,

I do hear what you are saying and you are correct regarding Miller and Foye. Especially Miller, for the life of me, I don't understand why this guy passes up good shoots and won't shoot the darn ball! Especially when he can shoot the lights out. Foye is a work in progress though because I don't believe he is a pure point guard(another thing we desperately need)

Posted by: ivyleague | February 25, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to god AB is not going to read this blog.He did more than his expectation.Mr. flip please do not be hard on young fellows.He shoot over 50% , he defended the most difficult PF to defend,He has 5 assists.The turn overs on him are basicaly are MM's problem.He keep giving him the ball when 3 men are on him.why he is not taking shoot or drive to the basket by himself.

Posted by: gtefferra | February 25, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Earl dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and dribbles

and dribbles

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 1:24 PM

LOL. That last "dribbles" got me!

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

original_mark,

you had me til BTH! I swear he makes his living just taking up a particular spot on the floor, if the ball comes to him, he gets it. If his man goes right at him, he stops him.

All well and good, but I'm much preferring the more active frontcourt look we have now and given we're not supposed to be competing for anything serious next season would like to see JM get his chance.

Posted by: divi3 | February 25, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"Andray Blatche is a better player than Antawn Jamison. He's an equal rebounder. He's a better defender. He's a better shotblocker. He's a better passer. The only area where AJ has him beat is shooting 3's and that shouldnt be a PF role traditionally anyway.

Are we even still comparing the two?"

Posted by: original_mark

Time-out. Blatche has been averaging 20/9 for a little over a week now. AJ has done it for 5 years in a row. When Blatche can carry his numbers and effort over even just a full season, we can start talking. Right now it's apples and oranges. Not saying he's not capable of being a better all-around player, but it's too soon to go there.

Not sure what has been up with Miller the past couple of games. He has not looked good. But that doesn't undo all of the good things he was doing earlier in the season. I did have higher hopes for Foye, though. He has not played as well as I thought he was capable of.

Posted by: ts35 | February 25, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

By the way, too funny to the poster describing Boykins and his endless dribbling. I find myself screaming at the TV, pass the d***n ball already. Notice, when we beat I think it was the Bulls, he was not playing the last 4 minutes or so. The thing that does bother me about Flip is this; he said he would pull anyone who did not pass the ball but for some reason as the poster above said, he lets Boykins dribble and dribble and dribble........Drives me insane!

Posted by: ivyleague | February 25, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Is it me...or does Boykins dribble way too much???? The offense runs a little smoother with Foye in the line-up. When Boykins is in the game he dribbles for at least 15-18 secs!! Give the damn ball up!! He clearly doesn't fit with these new group of guys!!

Posted by: chicoexcell | February 25, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Yes chicoexcell, it is unanimous, we all think Boykins DRIBBLE THE BALL WAY TOO DAMN MUCH! AUGH!!!!!

Posted by: ivyleague | February 25, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

All of criticizing GIL are the same ones if he's back next season and start scoring 30 - 40 pts a night who are going to praise him like he never did anything wrong. It's funny how we are so quick to turn our back on people because of their mistakes and forget everything they have done.

Posted by: sainnis | February 25, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

All of criticizing GIL are the same ones if he's back next season and start scoring 30 - 40 pts a night who are going to praise him like he never did anything wrong. It's funny how we are so quick to turn our back on people because of their mistakes and forget everything they have done.

Posted by: sainnis | February 25, 2010 3:04 PM

At some point, enough is enough. Gilbert can be an immature goofball for somebody else.

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Not to defend Gil but he was also ALLOWED to be a goofball. that's a key part of the problem. within this process he has to learn how to be professional in more aspects than scoring 30-40 points. I think he should and could respond here in DC.

Build around Andray Blatche? I doubt if his own mother would support that plan.

Posted by: oknow1 | February 25, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, the judge may not support building around Gil.

Posted by: artiesliver | February 25, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

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